Endtown /trash/ thread, 1.985 Pigs Edition Last thread: htt

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Last comic.

>>7935027
Why is Walter reading the paper while visiting Portia? And why is Portia sitting like she just finished sucking Walter's cock? Are they getting into some Dominance and Submission shit there where anyone can just run through the room in emotional distress?

>>7939576

she was sucking his dick and using the newspaper to hide her.

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How to cheer up the fish?

>>7941240
Find her some fishy friends. Either that, or a good trout tickler.

Feels kind of weird that the Endtown folk apparently saw the whole ship arc but nobody seems to have batted an eye at the news that there's no virus.

>>7935027
How is that sideways pose even remotely "running" (bipedal or digitigrade legs)? All the flying tears and flounce lines don't fix this.

Am I being autistic here or does anyone else see the problem?

>>7945923
>but nobody seems to have batted an eye at the news that there's no virus

…this is the part where I have to go back and reread the entire last 4 months before asking a question that results in being told to go back and reread the entire last 4 months, isn't it.

>>7946532
No, it does look like there's something downright bizarre going on with her legs.

>>7946536
Wally was told by the ship AI that the scans it took showed there was no mutagenic virus, so the people who had for ages (and for various reasons) been taking it as a given that the force that causes mutation was not an actual virus were correct.

We kind of got stiffed on the answer of what it actually is, though.

>>7946571
>the force that causes mutation was not an actual virus
We took it for granted that your state of consciousness affects your transformation and so far haven't seen evidence to the contrary.

> this all started happening after The War
Inductive reasoning is necessary to survive but it also fosters post hoc fallacies. The thing is, if The War wasn't responsible for the mutation, what was?

Speaking of assumptions, it's been a while since I read the entire series, did we ever get an answer to where dittos came from? Were they another government project gone awry, or is there some other, stranger explanation for them that ties into anthropomorphic mutation?

>>7946665
>We took it for granted that your state of consciousness affects your transformation and so far haven't seen evidence to the contrary.
No we were outright told that by Aaron. People had been assuming the not-a-virus thing for ages based on it being obviously supernatural due to the mass-shifting and acting too fast to be an actual virus and so on.

>The thing is, if The War wasn't responsible for the mutation, what was?
Oh, no, we've known for a while now that the mutations were happening before the war, the last arc just showed it (Sparkplug's flashback did too). In fact it'd be more accurate to say the mutations were responsible for the war, seeing as it started as an attempt to nuke the source of the supposed "virus" off the face of the planet.

>Speaking of assumptions, it's been a while since I read the entire series, did we ever get an answer to where dittos came from? Were they another government project gone awry, or is there some other, stranger explanation for them that ties into anthropomorphic mutation?
Literally "Aliens!", if the Lucranians count (despite being human for all intents and purposes - they may be from a particular reality where humanity lucked its way into multiverse hopping tech and then more or less evolved culturally into the Endtown version of the Ferengi).

The dittos are a 3D display element used by Lucranian ship AIs, as was suggested at the end of the Rocket Arc. It seems the wild population in the Great Waste are all descended from the ones aboard the crashed ship.

>>7946758
So that brings us back to where the mutations are coming from, which I'm guessing didn't happen across all realities Marx has been to. Was this Eye's idea of an experiment?

>>7946758
>being obviously supernatural
Then what does wearing a hazmat suit do to ward off the transformation if it's supernatural in nature?

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>>7940036
lol nice

>>7947062
what is wrong with that pig?

Live

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New comic.

Does this seem in-character for Dottie?

>>7951119
>Hoss
Jackrabbit supporter soon to have regrets?

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>>7951119
She's always been bold.

Suddenly the shitposts in the /co/ thread have a very familiar tone to them...

>>7952251
Point them out, please.

>>7946880
Who knows. It probably has something to do with being aware of being "infected". Lyn didn't mutate until he saw that Holly transformed. Holly didn't mutate until she saw Ethel. They didn't know the first horror they met used to be human so they weren't aware of the infection by then.

>>7952212
I'd say there's a difference between "giving a pep talk in a stern tone" and "tackling an eyewitness who just had a traumatic experience".

Actually... I wonder, Dottie and Holly both had that tiny determined lady man-organizing thing going on. I wonder if they were both inspired by the same person?

>>7952733
Belief or something like it having a protective power could also explain the Typhoid Maries.

>Late to the party seeing mutants
>"This is a virus?"
>"It's been around this long and I'm not infected!?"
>"I must be immune!"
>Belief in immunity protects them

IIRC Aaron said TMs can still mutate, they just haven't yet.

>>7952774
I think you're reading too much into it. People change.

>>7952855
People are going to be saying Portia is another Selina stand-in soon...

>>7952910
Maybe if she develops some tooth problem.

>>7946854
It looks like the multiple current-day Endtowns thing has been discarded, at least. The AI said the Endtown reality is an anomaly, as it exists alone in the middle of a streak of many, many utterly dead worlds where WWIII was still fought with zero weaponry but nobody survived... and it was fought over resource shortages, not mutation, to make things even more mysterious.

So there might be other Endtowns on other "rungs" of the ladder of time, but you can consider Marx having reached sideways into an Endtown where there was Leonardo Da Vinci brand gum to have been retconned, I guess.

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>>7955322
Also here's the version where I completely spaced putting the window in perspective.

>>7953687
>where WWIII was still fought with zero weaponry but nobody survived
come again

>>7955322
>>7955502
Awesome.

Maurice as one of the Ninja Turtles when?

I want to say... his weapon is a whisk.

>>7955839
Just read the comic.

>>7955839
"Zero weaponry" as in weapons using Amesworth radiation, not "zero weaponry" as in "none at all."

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>>7955880

>>7957157
>filename
The best prize is a surPRISE!

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>>7957157
Whisk chucks?

Brilliant.

>>7957242
>Whisk-chucks
For when you're making hollandaise sauce and you need to accidentally hit yourself in the crotch at the same time

>>7952826
>Topsiders believe they mutate when exposed to the air
>When they're exposed while unconscious, they're only subconsciously aware that they've been exposed, so the transformation is controlled
>People who are under the influence are only partially aware of their change

scores of /trash/ endtown threads
no porn of Maude being milked

you disgust me

>>7959711
Almost a haiku...

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>>7959923
Endtown Haiku Time
Much potential lies within
Why not have a shot?

World of dust and bones
Beneath lies a broken dream
Above, only ruin

Kindly drunkard girl
Face like a leather bear trap
Why'd you have to go?

>>7962842
Man, that's good stuff Daddy-o.

Post lewd Jim.

>>7969411
Nice. I haven't seen this one before. New?

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>>7969736
Older actually, was one of a couple promo card ideas I had in mind, and it had a different working title at first.

>>7970228
Very nice, I like the texture and highlighting on the sleeves in that first one.

This second one has a good atmospheric feeling to it.

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>>7970574
Unfinished stuff of Penny and a lesser drawn, high school chick named Julie who was high on ecstasy when she turned. When I showed Aaron a lineup of my cast, she was his favorite.

>>7973103
Very cool stuff. I like Julie's design, especially the elements that suggest she's trying to look at herself as attractive despite the crazy mutation.

This also reminds me that we've seen adults and we've seen what seem to be primary school age children in Endtown, but I can't recall seeing any that were obviously of middle or high school age. For that matter, I can't remember if we've even seen if Endtown has a schooling system, though I think it might have been mentioned in an email.

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>>7973244
Here's a very old set of doodlings of a street, mutant (which bears a resemblance to a Phantasy Star 4 monster) and what I think was an early idea for a 'safe exposure' pod.

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>>7973479
An idea of part of what I was at one time going to pitch to Aaron, included prototype MUTTs that used dog brains.

>>7973479
That is one creepy mutant. It reminds me somewhat of some Half Life concept art I saw once.

What was the pod for? Was it an idea for Topsider stuff?

>>7973667
I feel as thought I want to toss a stick for this thing...

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>>7973771
Unfinished scenery of Mana and Penny doing some reconnaissance. What became it's 'final' name Ashfall was in reference to, was I figured that the aftermath of WW3 would generate a nuclear winter that would last years. A constant element of it was how much ash was in the air, and at times they had to wear masks (which is what Mana is holding in her left hand).

>>7973910
I like seeing Penny looking so agile. So Mana and Penny were supposed to be part of the same story?

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>>7974179
Yup. They weren't acquainted before, but their mutations and the war brought them together. Also some partly colored portions of some of the first drawings of Mana.

>>7974380
Interesting to see how both your style and the look of the character have changed over time.

Is Mana going to be used for anything in the near future?

>>7974866
That honestly remains to be seen. It's not impossible, since she wasn't originally written for Endtown, actually. She was going to be in something vaguely similar in premise called Posthuman I was toying with, once upon a time.

>>7974923
I hope we see her in a story some day, then.

Care to give us the low-down on Posthuman?

>>7974999
Semi-futuristic setting, with sort of the same technology from the old X-com and Shadowrun, but the, 'mutations' were more of a form of designer genetics. In some ways similar to After the Bomb, but with more cyborgs. There's also a goofy cd-i game called Bodyslam: Mutant Rampage that it would have been comparable to. Only the protagonists wouldn't be 'naturals'. I didn't get around to drawing any of it at the time, what with the QA job I had, then. Mana herself was named/conceived while I was testing some Ikari warriors type game on XBLA, while listening to Judas Priest's cover of Green Manalishi.

>>7975217
I could revive it as a side theme for the zanier design ideas I know I could conjure, that wouldn't fit in my current project, Shining Sky.

>>7975217
Some damn good taste in games, there. Now I can't help but wonder what action girl Mana would look like in the classic comic-book-style X-Com Personal Armor...

>>7975268
It sounds like it's got potential. I say yes, keep it on hand to tinker with, you never know what might come of it.

>>7965572
There is nothing new to post.

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Speaking of sideprojects, who's been keeping up with Jamil's webcomic?

>>7976449
It's looking better and better.

Not sure about the "unsound effects" on that recent page (FLING! ROLL ROLL), but the action was tense and had me in suspense.

>>7962842
Dark, darker, darkest
Plot bends, winds and meanders
The lizard helps naught

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>>7976449
new oddly specific fetish acquired

>>7951119
No, I'm pretty sure Aaron just fogot to color her teeth.

>>7979589
Lame pastiche of Who
Why is he in the comic?
Why does he exist?

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>>7951119
I just noticed that you can totally see the outline of Heather's rear end in that last panel.

>>7980890
You know, I thought that for a moment, looking at that third panel, but her teeth seem a shade darker than the wall behind so I just assumed they were shadowed.

>>7980890
>>7980953
The color is fine but now I can't unsee how they're turned at a wrong angle.

>>7980990
It does look odd... like she's side on but her teeth are at 45 degrees to that.

>>7980294
Dottie's seen some shit.

>>7983469
Fuck you, Marx. You could've saved Allie!

New strip is up.

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>>7985816

Something feels off.

And does this mean no court case, or one-sided court case?

>>7986392
Guess the case is gonna be all about Walt roughing them up.

But while it looks like the wolves are winning now, I doubt that there aren't more people like Heather all around town. Poor Dottie is gonna be on the wrong side when this blows up.

>>7986496
Until it turns out it's only a minority of wolves engaging in pig-pestering, who are just patsies and stooges for the real enemy causing the pig disappearances. I can see a sort of wholesale scapegoating wolf/predator exile thing, perhaps with a publicly-unpopular viewpoint character (Dottie the journalist? Walt the predator?) being tossed out with them, and then the real culprit behind the mystery rears his/her head and enacts phase two of whatever the plan is, and the divided MCs of the arc have to reunite to take him down. Or maybe they just stay bitterly divided and everything goes wrong - this is Endtown after all...

>>7987637
Don't forget about Marx, every arc will end with Marx.

>>7987802
>Don't forget about Marx

Would that I could...

>>7987637
>Preds get exiled
>Leaderless and confused
>Suddenly Sarah

>>7975528
As an aside, streaming promo art for my project as well as commissions https://www.tigerdile.com/stream/kazenstream/

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>>7990620
Good to see she's adapted and found her niche... nice cameo, PA.

What do you think it would take for thread activity to rise back to how it was during the ship chapter? I see many posts saying that the current one isn't engaging enough.

>>7998913
The chapter just need to build up and it doesn't help mods have scared off most of the drawfags

>>8001929
Yeah, PenAnon seems to be the only one left. To think that even Chochi and CR made some fanart back then.

>>7998913
I just hope nobody tries to force it by encouraging more shitposting.

>>8003421
DK's still around. Occasionally.

I don't think it's necessarily just the moderators, though. I'd say that in some cases it's also a varying mix of disillusionment with the comic and conflicting priorities.

>>8003691
>I just hope nobody tries to force it by encouraging more shitposting.
They're trying but it's not succeeding. Good, I don't want a "mokey paw" situation.

>disillusionment with the comic
Nobody wants to say it but yes, even for someone with Aaron's record it's hard to recover from something like the previous chapter.

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/co/ could never agree on who is best waifu but I guess *we* can agree, right?

>Last /co/ thread was tumbleweeds
>Gocomics comments on the current strip have suddenly dropped from an already reduced count to a low they probably haven't seen since the early days of the comic

Yikes.

>>8016306
It's almost like most of us have recognized Neathery's completely lost his way and will repeat the same type of storyline indefinitely without any real progression or a conclusion in mind, except possibly Marx ex machina

>>8021472
He established that this is the third act of the first half. He doesn't sound as lost as you say.

>>8025295
If you're going to make your own webcomic with its own premise, for the love of christ have an actual ending in mind and progress towards it or you'll just end up like Neathery

>>7987637
>>7987802
In before it's actually Marx scapegoating the wolves for some convoluted "Greater Good" reason and the mysterious and seemingly unwitnessed pig disappearances are down to him fooling them into thinking they're going to be eaten and then portaling them somewhere else right out of their own homes (also for the "Greater Good").

Meanwhile Jackrabbit is up to something completely different, or taking advantage of the social repercussions while not actually knowing why any of it is happening.

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>>8030508
Why do you stay here? What do you gain from this other than being a prick?

>>8026784
He has an ending in mind, apparently. I recall Aaron saying Endtown would wrap up in 9 years or so.

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>>8031705
>What do you gain from this other than being a prick?
The chance to be confused for other anons, I guess?

>>8031705
>What do you gain from this other than being a prick?
I'm giving you advice most people beginning a webcomic need badly and your response is "triggered." Nice.

>>8030508

I just wonder since when did Jacob become such a power-hungry, manipulative bastard when he was previously portrayed as a mouthy, but ultimately cowardly little shit who couldn't back up his words with actions and didn't seem to aim as high as gaining control of entire Endtown.

>>8032488
I noticed that too. He seemed to get a spine and wit transplant in between arcs.

I think the answer, frankly, is "When the author needed him to", kind of like Cooper but much milder and not a total reinvention.

>>8032543

It still makes you wonder *what* caused this sudden change. Cowards don't suddenly become power-hungry scheming bastards without some kind of explanation. If they do then it's shitty writing.

It's especially jarring since it seems not much time has passed between the first arc (Al and Gustine's quest) and second arc (Wally's introduction).

>>8032570
IIRC, Aaron said Wally and Holly's first arc is actually supposed to have happened more or less at the same time as Al and Gustine's adventure out in the waste.

Obviously by the time of the Milk Trial Al and Gustine have been back for a while, though, because by then Wally and Holly have been together for... two years, I think? Looks like there was a lengthy time skip at some point in the narrative that as far as I can recall was never really obviously indicated and has to be inferred from dialogue after the fact.