how did you guys get started drawing? i don't mean as a

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I doodled a random face, then a spooderman-looking female the other day.
I was bored and could do "decent" flat doodles.
Also did these 2 Tiles from a recent /v/ Mosaic.

>>7668513
In 2015 I made it my new year's resolution to draw at least one pic a day, even if it were just a happy face.

It was actually really fun and made me feel accomplished

Used to be a writer. Would collaborate with artists. Never really liked sharing creative control, and their work never looked like what I wanted in my head. So I decided I'd have to learn to draw for myself.

>serious endeavor like /ic/

/ic/ is a joke.

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>how did you guys get started drawing?
I used to hang out on the /co/ MLP threads, started coloring other people's art for like two years constantly, then I said "I want to make my own stuff" and here we are.

>what did you draw?
Ponies mostly

>what was the fun factor for you?
Being able to do your own drawings is fun, creating your own stories/characters and giving them personalities.

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I drew dumb geometry back in the day. See >>7636520 for what I would draw.
And then I would recreate images by hand just by looking at the image. Pic related. (2013 oh baby)
Then I got into vector art by tracing shitty mlp art. Thank God I don't do that anymore.
And now I uncommonly do vector tracing of other people's art, because my art skill is otherwise rather low.

>>7668513
>how did you guys get started drawing?
>what did you draw? what was the fun factor for you?
Anonymous imageboards got me started. Did a shitty doodle of a crappy character I made up in like 30 seconds as a joke reply and people started asking him questions and I just kept going, making doodles and replying in an RP kind of way for 3 threads. That was the first time I posted art on the internets and RP'd and I was loving it and the attention it got, and somehow ended up with a developed OC lel.

>>7671891
Can you post it?

>>7672052
Don't have any of my old pics in this pc, it was a couple of years ago and fuck cripplechins for never having an archive or I'd pull them off from there.
Anyway, I have a bunch of crappy doodles on the MSPaint drawthread so there's that at least.
>>7557454
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>>7672338
You're the one making those? I love your style.

>>7672511
Aww, thank you very much.

That thread has been really fun. Made me start doodling once again after a long time.
>>7673094

I started with GeePM's Miiverse is Hell streams around January last year, since a big part of it is viewer made art. Quality didn't really matter to an extent, but I wanted to improve anyways since people would be seeing it.

After that went on hiatus and my 3DS broke I just starting doing pixel art. Not for any particular reason, I just needed to draw something.

For traditional? I've been doodling in the margins of my notes/homework for as long as I've been in school.
For digital? I only really got started when I broke my ankle like an idiot going down the stairs about a year ago. I couldn't do a lot of moving, so I started fiddling with the tablet. Drew stuff for the Towergirls threads on /tg/. I authored a few of those knights for the knight chart that still gets circulated here and there these days. Heck, some of them continue to pop up in other miscellaneous towergirls fan arts. Martyr Knight and Kobold Knight were easily the most popular.

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>>7668513
Started at 13, wanted to be able to draw.

8 years later the magic died for me and I rarely do so anymore.

Hell, my most recent serious piece is this and it took me like 45 minutes to do everything. Wasn't even motivated enough to do the shading.

>I still doodle like a motherfucker but I just can't care anymore to put in a serious effort.

But if there was any fun factor for me back then it was creature design.

And what I used to draw was pretty much anything that moved.

I wasn't great and being shown up by people half my age just ground me down in the end.

>>7676083
Kind of reminds me of Paper Mario art.

>>7676083
>Chicken B Skin
You got good taste at least.

When I was in 2nd grade my friend used to draw her edgy sonic ocs and i took after her and started from there

>>7668513
I teach art, and I'm going to tell you the best way to learn to draw.
>Experiment
If you want to draw an eye, go to the other side of the page and draw the eye until you like it. If you do just one, then erase it, then try again on your picture, you won't retain how you did it.

Likewise, try to draw around ten of whatever you want to practice a day. Faces, poses, whatever. That doesn't mean you need to agonize over them and produce a masterpiece- it just means that you loosely draw the basic form and try to get things positioned right.

The key here is that you don't end up agonizing over one piece, and produce a lot more. Those people who are younger than you who get good at drawing did so because when they were young, they did a lot of drawings that weren't good and learned what looks bad. Most of the people who have a very hard time learning to draw are people who are more analytical, and especially people who have bad anxiety. They panic over getting everything "right," and get depressed when they aren't perfect. If you make a bad drawing, just do it again- and the less time you devote to one drawing, the the better off you'll be. Just finish it and move on, because now you know how to do it better.

>Tools
If you use a mechanical pencil, push your lead way out. If you use a regular pencil, use a razor to expose about an inch or two of lead. This forces you to sketch lightly, which means you aren't married to any single line- you can easily draw over it again. Also, try to do practice drawings in pen for the opposite reason- this way you HAVE to get single lines right, so you train yourself to do it the first time around. If you're doing experimental drawings like above, this shouldn't be a problem.

(Cont)

>>7677186
>Thumbnails
In the vein of our experimental drawings, you should try doing thumbnails before doing a major drawing. This means that you draw quick sketches of what you want to draw before jumping into an idea. If you want to draw a monster, draw ten different variations, playing with proportions and poses and things. You likely won't have a perfect design your first go, so just do as many as you can. And remember, don't devote too much time to each one. 10 is a good easy number to start with.

>Sketchbook
Get yourself a sketchbook and do as much stuff as you can. Try to fill one up in a month if you can. That means lots of experiments, drawing anything that comes to mind, or anything else you can think of. Even if you're just idly doodling, you should be putting marks on pages.

I personally try to do 10 monster designs a day, which adds up to 70 a week. That's 70 ideas I can come back to or develop. And you want quantity, not quality; I remember back in the day I spent over a week on one drawing that I didn't even like when I got finished.

>Read lots of books or watch videos
Take a look at anatomy drawing books, books on how to draw, and books of other artists' work. Look at how all of them do things, and practice everybody's different ways of doing things. You might find a way you like. If you don't like reading, then drawing from YouTube videos work too. DO NOT let people meme you into just reading Loomis manuals.

>Don't listen to anybody else, even me
Nobody on the internet knows anything about you, and 99% of them don't know anything about art. You end up with a lot of people parroting things they don't understand, and a lot of people develop massive senses of self importance on the internet. Worse, you also get the occasional person who is bitter over feeling incapable of art, and lashes out at other people. You see this a lot in people who insist you have to be born with talent.

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>>7668513
Started at four or five years old.

I vaguely remember the comics I used to draw back then, about kids in capes (whose only distinguishing feature was their color) who would... they would fight similar guys in capes until they join forces against the next colored guy.
I keep getting almost good, then giving up and not drawing for a while, then repeating the cycle a few years later.

The trick is to stick with it, eventually you get half decent...
...I should be a lot better by now.

>>7677589
Even in the art world, the vast majority people who teach art know art, but not how to teach it. They're people who learned art when they were very young and by the time they became cognizant could intuit things, so you end up with a lot of hollow advice being repeated. And people who learn from these people repeat the same advice, but don't understand what it means or how to fundamentally explain it. Look out for phrases like "get over yourself."

>Copy or trace things
Kids trace art they like, and that teaches them how to properly make marks in relation to others. Adults are afraid to do this, because it's seen as bad. Don't feel bad about it. Trace people's art, draw other people's pictures, do whatever you want. That's the best way to learn from people you like.

I mean obviously don't sell these or claim it as your own, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with drawing someone else's work.

>Draw things you like
A very common piece of advice is to not draw anything from imagination until you've mastered drawing real objects. This is the worst advice I can imagine, and if someone tells you this you should ignore them. This is the fastest way to get you to dread drawing, and eventually you'll resent it and quit. It's important to draw real things, but always make sure you're spending time drawing things you enjoy as well. If you're not having fun drawing something, then switch to drawing something that is fun. Unless someone is paying you, art isn't a job and shouldn't feel like one.

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>>7677880
Alright, last post.

>Don't get discouraged
Like I mentioned before, it's incredibly easy to let yourself get beaten down by not feeling good enough, as you can see on posts like >>7677680 and >>7676083. That's perfectly normal, and isn't some kind of moral failing on your part. Just realize that even "bad" artists can be incredibly successful if they find their niche. Rob Liefeld's anatomy is weird and abnormal and he can't draw feet, but his style was seen as expressive and interesting in the 90's. Artists on the internet get popular all the time that aren't classically trained masters.

There is always going to be somebody worse than you, and there's a lot of them that might be getting paid for it. Just don't worry about it and draw.

I think I made a mistake trying to use /ic/ to get good. I've tried draw a box and loomis and they seem pretty good, but I feel like I haven't improved at all.

Anyway, what's some better art places that don't make feel like unmotivated piece of shit like /ic/?

>>7677939
>Rob Liefeld's niche market
You mean horny young boys that want supermodel body with huge boobs and big ass? Yeah I can say that's a big market. I used to be one of that boy. That's why I used to collect stuff like Glory, Darkchylde and Witchblade

I think I'm beyond help. I have a terrible ineptitude, and can't doodle the simplest of things. My handwriting is terrible, my hands are shaky, it's just really bad. I don't know anymore, I want to do art but I just don't think I'll ever be able to.

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>>7668513
I liked drawing sonic and cartoons when I was a kid. I also like drawing porn.

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>>7676244
Never noticed that, thanks.

>>7676258
Currently, I play Rouge, Chicken, and Robot.

My last run with Chicken netted me 1718 kills.

I still think that Chicken's B-Skin should be a black chicken with a white bandanna and red eyes. Scramble the colors so to speak.

>>7677939
>Artists on the internet get popular all the time that aren't classically trained masters.

Ain't that the fucking truth.

That along with being outclassed got me in the end.

I never liked anything I made after it all blew over.

>>7678141
You are doing art, anything you draw is art.

If you're worried about not being able to doodle something, sketch something instead.

Stop working from your mind and start working from reality.

Everyone uses references to some degree.

>>7678507
I do work with references, still comes out like shit.

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>>7677939
>on mobile
Would you (or someone) be so kind as to screencap all of this so I (and others) can save it for inspiration?

>>7678141
Many artists use short and fast multiple lines to make sketches. It gives an illusion of a straight line. And doodling stuff doesn't have to be realistic, like my weird sketch, pic related. Is it a spider? idk, but it looks cool, if I do say so myself. And the perspective geometry is absolutely horrid.

>>7678712
I hear doing small fast, multiple lines isn't good, but I also hear and know a lot of people who do it. And yeah, I don't really try to do realistic things, I mean, I can't doodle a smiley face or a stick figure

>>7678949
I don't believe you; sure you can a stick figure! Stick figures don't have to look good at all, and that's the fun of it.
Or post pics to convince me otherwise.

>>7677939
>>7677880
>>7677589
>>7677186
I really appreciate this. Thank you, teachernon.

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>>7678712
>>7678949

You're both right. There's a technique that gets referred to as "chicken scratching" or "hairy lines," which is where draw long lines in short strokes. It's a habit a lot of people fall into because you might not trust your line, and fear that you aren't going to get it perfect. This looks really bad.

What is okay, and I'd recommend, is lightly drawing your line from start to finish in one stroke, then doing it again if you don't like how it turned out. The eye will naturally average all those lines together.

Most of the common problems with art comes from confidence issues, which is why it's so hard to teach properly. The less confident people are the harder it is to make them confident.

>>7668513
>serious endeavor like /ic/
/ic/ is the actual worst board on 4chan. Say what you will about /v/, /b/, and /pol/, but I legitimately believe /ic/ is still worse than all of them.

>>7679358
Why is /ic/ bad? I've never been to it.

>>7679680

The older /ic/ was better. The sticky that compiles resources is pretty useful though.

The board is 99% shitposting and inaccurate critiques at this point.

>>7679680
>>7679858
The Towergirls thread is still decent.

>>7679870

True. Probably one of the only threads free from Loomis spam, "not gonna make it", and the ligament meme.

I wanted to draw whatever I wanted to see. Even as a kid, porn artists (the good one's) inspired me to draw more expressively. I started out with shitty doodles and even Flipnote. I'm not too much better and I feel like no one likes my stuff but I keep going. I wanna be someone's inspiration one day

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>>7668513
I started last march after not drawing at all for 4+ years because I saw zootopia no lie.

>>7681213
Is that all digital, like, done with a tablet? If so, I'm jelly. You get such nice clean lines.
I can't do the tablet/hand to eye/screen coordination thing for the life of me. Can't connect dot A with dot B with a line without trying half a dozen times.

You have such nice anatomy going on. My only comment would be that the hand on the 3rd one from left to right is way too big for that arm.

started when I was a kid. stopped drawing when a pair of asshole teachers at my primary school told me I was shit and laughed at my efforts; which kind of mentally wrecked me pretty bad.

started doodling again in my last years at school to kill time in class. found imageboard drawthreads a few years ago and wanted to get better. Now I just draw whatever I can think of right alongside too much porn.

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you could have done the right thing

you could have chosen to GIT GUD

now its too late

>>7683594
and you could have chosen to not be a cancerous memefag
Kill yourself 10 times over

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I grew up wanting to be better than everyone else at something. I liked art by itself, but it meant nothing to me if I couldn't share it with others and not get praise. I've been drawing since I was a kid, but I started to take it seriously in 2006 when did really poor scribble art trying to get Dr. Comet's attention on his oekaki BBS. I was 12.

I took art electives any chance I got, because I knew I wasn't going to get any attention drawing safe body poses in furry art. I took what I knew and applied it as best as I could to my smut.

I started to see improvement around 2012, as far as change in style goes. I still think I have a lot to learn. I feel like I'm hindered by the envy and desire and comparing myself to others. I don't draw everyday and if I do I need to be really inspired to do my best work.

That's the short of it.
I want to make a webcomic that's clean and finish that for the sake of my own personal love of art now, and that's an effort that's 2 years old; at my pace I think I'll have it done in 20 years.

I don't know how I got started, I just liked to draw ever since I was 4-5 and started to take it more seriously when I was around 12 or so with practicing anatomy and what not.

I just like the idea of being able to draw what's in my imagination which I guess counts as the fun factor.

As for what I draw it's mainly original designs. I've been wanting to make an account for my art or something for almost a decade now but I'm too much of an autistic nervous wreck.

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>>7683998

>>7685936
you neither
now kys

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>>7679858
>The older /ic/ was better.
tfw the two main boards i used to go on are dead and just have shitposting now

I started drawing when I first read warrior cats and started drawing comics for my fan cat ocs

bumping for interest

This is a really good thread.

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I've always had an intuition for drawing, for seeing the makeup of things and turning off my brain to let my eyes do their thing. This is nothing I can really brag about, because I never did anything with that ability. I 'tried' a few times over the years, got frustrated, and quit. I had no patience to put in the effort, and I was terrified of failing if I tried in earnest

So now, I'm 32, less time on my hands, eyesight failing, and nowhere near where I could have been. That's what true failure is: not trying. Everything feels squandered and fucked up now, and I've got a lot more obstacles in my way, but my choice is really no different than before. I can start really trying now with what I have, or I can face having no excuse to give my 42 year old self ten years from now.

Thanks, OP and everyone who contributed. I needed the reminder to stop being mad at myself and just start.

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A serious thing I wonder, especially for new artists, is how do you keep "doodling" when nothing comes out at an acceptable quality to show people? What keeps it fun for you? I can't get over how bad everything looks, and that makes me want to not try, especially when I catch myself reverting to bad habits like chickenscratching and symbol drawing with one long line.

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>>7668513
>what was the fun factor for you?

I learned very quickly that i loved to draw expressions and body language and I wanted to become good at it. I originally started out by following the /ic/ sticky but I was so bored by it i quit before I finished a single book. I just went and copied my favorite anime artists on pixiv until I got good enough to draw my own stuff from imagination.

>>7690741
unfortunately there is no easy answer to this question. In the beginning the biggest hurdle is just forcing yourself to draw anything at all. It helps to draw things you are actually interested in. Like ships or planes or tanks? great, draw them. Like sexy animal cat people? draw them. use references. study the works of people who draw sexy animal cats. ask questions. get involved. Soon your passion will become a habit. then one day you will wake up and realize the thing you wanted to draw actually looks decent enough to show to others.

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>>7668513

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>>7691880

>>7690741
>nothing comes out at an acceptable quality
You're being too hard with yourself. There's no reason to set yourself some acceptable quality level as a new artist. As a beginner it's expected that everything will come out looking bad, I mean, nobody started doing masterpieces from day one. Just set that thought aside and keep doodling whatever comes to mind. Sooner than later you'll get better, as long as you keep trying.
Remember that we are our own worst critics and everything will always be a hair away from that acceptable quality, no matter how good we are but that's cool because that's what keeps us going and trying to get better and improve.

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Ive been drawing all through school, I used to get in trouble for always drawing in the test margins

I think the first time I posted something online, it was a character holding a cake for someone's birthday, I think I was a freshman.

I've been taking requests and drawing for a couple years now, only fairly recently started to make some money with it

>>7669266
oh shit what up dooks

>>7690741
My answer is that it's hard and sometimes I don't. I stop. Try again another day. Sometimes lose a lot of time that way and regret it but I don't know what to do differently.

Sometimes have good days too though where stuff just seems to happen.

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>>7690741
honestly I don't show people the majority of my art

it's not just about finishing x amount of drawings and you'll suddenly be better. you have to actively learn while you draw. if I draw an arm in one pose fifty times and it only comes out acceptable one of those times, I'm happy, because now I know 49 ways to not draw it and one way to do it successfully. don't worry about other people's thoughts on your art when you're just learning. don't get down on yourself if nothing's turning out right; grab a coffee, take a walk, come back and look at it again.

also, vary your exercises a lot. it can get pretty tedious, so mixing it up is good. I did some landscapes, hand studies, facial shadows, cars, and calf studies before cooling down with some robot and knight doodles.

you can do it anon

>>7668513
tried and quit. I suck at it.

>>7694705
pretty jelly of your clean sketches

I really need to put more thought into my lines.

Bumping for interest

>>7697149
Maybe try again and this time don't give up like a retard and you'll find you suck less.

>>7698021
thanks!

most of it is just light blocking and then hatching though. the only planning was on the middle and top left's facial shadows, but that just comes from practice.

>>7668513
I started by drawing comics. I had stories to tell, and my friends liked them. If more people had been critical of my art, I might still be drawing today

>>7668513
Inspired by /vp/ MSP and drawthreads.
I eventually stopped doing this daily when the threads ended and now I can't draw for shit.
I feel like going back to draw again though, but I'm horrible. Each time I draw a human face I cringe.

>>7687922
Do it. Remember, each failure you draw is a little step into success if you're steady and motivated.

>>7702075
be a furry artist
you can't be bad at humans if you dont draw humans

Really new artist here, and something I've started doing more is watching the actual size of the line and the way it's going. Basically if it's an unnatural shape, do it over, but if it's a little bit wavy or unsteady it can be passed off. Things might look like they require huge, long lines, but it's actually just a short motion I really needed.

What keeps me going is seeing improvements. One day when I can really draw competently, it'll be easier to do it, but starting off is absolutely brutal if you keep reverting to old habits. Just do it every day until it becomes normal, "practice as much as you can" is seriously some of the best advice you can hear, but I think people get thrown off by the word "practice". It's really just drawing anything, it doesn't have to be hard or advanced, just doodle something for an hour minimum per day. I've started doing this and I've seen small improvements. I've got a long way to go, but art doesn't feel like a chore anymore.

>>7702165
Sorry, but I don't like furry art -Pokemon is the only exception- and I REALLY want to get good at drawing humans. I'm just not trying hard enough.

>>7702765
Start with one body part at a time. I know artists that used to be shit at, say, hands. So what they did is over the course of three months they drew as many hands as they could per day for as long as they could stand. By the end of those three months they could draw hands perfectly. You can do it, you just need to find out what works.

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>>7702799
This is exactly how you do it. Tackle your weaknesses head on, break big tasks into pieces, and hammer at each one again, and again, and again. And again.

Heck I wish I could even do decent doodles...I want to learn but I procrastinate too much, overly critical, and yeah I know whining about it won't fix the issue.

>>7669266
Cute picture anon. The kind of style that I like

>>7702075
Huh same here actually. My drawings are crap compared to most in those threads but It's still fun to make an attempt for even a tiny bit of practice...aside from the more complex pokemon of the day.

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>>7707752
Thank you anon!

>>7694705
>dooks
Boi it's been a while since I've been called by that handle lol, whaddup

>>7690741
>when nothing comes out at an acceptable quality to show people?

Doodling is supposed to make you "loosen up" or warm up, don't focus on the small details, focus on identifying forms and shapes fast.

If you're using SAI, turn the stabilizer to 1 if you're only sketching, you can turn it up later when inking.

>>7708511
This is my other problem.
I'm really awful at inking. How do you do it on SAI and paper?

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>>7668513
Ever since i was young i always wanted to best my brother at drawing, then along the line i realize why the fuck bother competing if this is fun plus there's no challenge since he rarely does it in the first place, especially now
so now thanks to my random art rivalry with my brother i am a decent drawer

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>>7668513
For me it's the feeling of, "HOLY FUCK I DID SOMETHING!!!" even if it looks like complete ass. Also my friends want to see what I draw, and that makes me feel nice.

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>>7668513
>how did you guys get started drawing?
I read Vgcats back in the day. Wanted to make my own comic.

>what did you draw?
At first? Monsters and edgy shit. Later moved on to generic fur smut.

>what was the fun factor for you?
Making up stupid shit and nonsense.

...Oh wow actual decent hyena female art. Rarity

Damn it trash you of all places shouldn't inspire me to attempt to put forth an effort to learn this shit.

>>7686419
Cute cat girl anon

>>7709017
>Hyenas
>No Penis vaginas
into the fuckin tresh
all jokes aside great job dude looks amazing

>>7709322
>No Penis vaginas

A what now? I don't know if I want to google this.

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>>7677939
What do you think about this book?

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>>7709322
I don't draw the dick dames, but thanks bro.

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>>7709398
It's what female hyenas actually have, their vaginas are outside, but everything else is still inside
it's very weird and i thought everyone would get it but hey i don't blame you for not it's some weird shit in the first place

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>>7709527
Uhh....ok then GGs nature. I'm out

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>>7668513
My older brother was always a great artist and I sort of admired that but I always assumed that I couldn't draw. I did like to doodle though and I eventually started drawing animu faces, then I discovered pone art so I promptly bought a pc and started learning that. I didn't know anything about computers or drawing but I kept messing around and after a year or so I had a basic understanding of the programs but i still sucked at conceptualizing things. Then I spent a few months using lsd. I'm still not very good, but I have gotten better and every now and then I can produce something novel, just don't ask me to do it again.

>>7709411
Not that anon but that was one of the books I had on my 'drawing fundamentals' class at college. We mostly used it for warmup exercises. We did the "drawing stuff with a continuous line without taking the sight off the model/looking at the paper", the negative/positive space stuff and drawing with the references upside down.
We didn't went trhought all of it. We used other books for figure drawing. I might sound like I'm memeing here but we legit used Loomis' "Figure drawing for all it's worth". Not all of it though, just a couple of chapters.

Oh and we also used a bunch of reference images from Vilppu's 'Drawing Manual'.

>>7709769
I should mention I stole the lower half of her body from someone elses piece and added on to it. It was never meant to turn out the way it did. At that time I was doing recolors and edits to help hone my skills.

https://derpibooru.org/600879?q=derpy+hooves%2C+skirt

>>7709017
>>7709428
This is pretty much exactly the kind of thing I want to be able to draw, do you have somewhere you upload your art or something?

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>>7677186
>>7677589
>>7677880
>>7677939
>>7678712
Please excuse the theme

I need to know more

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>>7694981
>don't worry about other people's thoughts on your art when you're just learning. don't get down on yourself if nothing's turning out right; grab a coffee, take a walk, come back and look at it again.
this is bad advice because if you make bad art and post it online, whole contingents of people will take it upon themselves to try to dox you

just don't make art at all, since some bunch of people somewhere will always find it bad anyway

Any tutorials?

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here's a crappily done version of this >>7712138 in vintage futaba theme

>>7712138
I like the theme and thanks. Frisky tomorrow