/tup/ - Tulpa Thread Hunting krauts with your tulpa Edition

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Friar Tuck died so that your tulpa may live.

What is the best game to play with a tup irl? I've found pool works really well as long as you don't mind looking like a lonely fag

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>>7546720

R.I.P.

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when your tulpa gives you the succ for the first time

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6th for cute tulpas

>>7546763
literally any PC game that has hotseat support
i.e.
>civilization
>frozen synapse
>toribash

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>>7547489

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>>7547498

Literally schizophrenia

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>>7548555

>>7548555
My tulpas agree with you.

>>7546612
>MyNoise: https://mynoise.net/
Can I use these to induce scochastic resonance?

Will I still be sane after I make a tulpa? My career path kind of needs my brain to be in top condition, so I'm a bit hesitant.

No offense to anyone of course, I'm veering so far into depressing loneliness that I'd be willing to go a bit crazy to fix it, as long as I can still function as normal anyway.

>>7551081
Well to be frank with you mate, it depends on you and what you make.
This shit can absolutely destroy you and make you lose your sense of self (worst end)
This shit can give you multiple perspectives on things and make your life easier due to have +1 mind in your head who can back you up on mental tasks like calculations for example. (Neutral end)
Or you can reach godhood that gets the envy of all monks world wide due to reaching MAX spiritual and mental prowess. (Best end)

>>7551246
to clarify, what is practiced here is not the same as what ancient buhdist monks and priests practiced 1000 years ago. those were reflections of yourself that only served to improve yourself, what would probably be called a servitor today.

>>7551081
I think a good question to ask, regarding this, is what would you expect could happen when making a tulpa (or after having made a tulpa) that would throw a wrench into your career?

>>7551976
I'm worried about the mental implications of a tulpa. It's basically fooling yourself that something exists so hard that it basically does. I don't really know about other mental side effects.

>>7551976
He wanted to know is there any chance for mental degradation by making a tulpa.

By judging your post, the answer is pretty obvious though.

>>7552417
Literally nothing.

>>7552417
What do you mean by mental implications? Why do you believe that the creation of a tulpa might not be copacetic with your mental state?

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how do i impose?

nothing works

i honestly can't tell if this is a community of shizos and this shit is actually a real deal, or a community of people roleplaying as schizos who are just really dedicated to it

>>7553397
(You)

>>7553397
I know the feeling. I'm the anon asking questions in the thread to try and discern if this is real or not.

>>7551081
If you were sane before you started. you will be sane after. You won't go crazy unless you want it to happen. And if you really want yourself to go crazy, it would happen in the future even if you didn't make a tulpa.

>>7552909
step 1 be able to do open eyed visualization
step 2 be able to do it while focusing on real life
step 3 overlay wonderland version of irl over irl/ overlay tulpa over irl whichever you think makes more sense
step 4 keep doing this until you get results
step 5 keep doing it until done
if you have more than one tulpa wash rinse repeat

>>7554342
instructions unclear, got dick caught in ceiling fan

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>>7554592
nigger it isnt hard pic related

>>7554606
yes it is, i've tried all of that and it dont work

>>7554636
well then you clearly aren't trying hard enough because it worked fine for me sweetcheeks

My tulpa keeps playing tubthumping by chumbawumba in my head and it's starting to get annoying. What do

>>7551081
Imagine a person that you know pretty well. Now imagine how that person would respond if you were to tell them that you had a tulpa. I assume that you can imagine their response, right? It doesn't actually matter what response you just received, because the thing to realize is that the person you just asked the question to doesn't actually exist. It was a simulation of the person based on the traits you believe the actual person to have, that your brain treated as being someone that isn't you.

A tulpa is essentially that, but not based on any actual person. Someone might use the appearance of a character as the form for the sake of imagining it easier, but the personality is entirely original and the form will likely change as the tulpa becomes more developed. The other difference is that, in the imagined person scenario above, you would generally always base your theoretical person on the actual one, regardless of what previous imaginings you've had. But a tulpa has no actual existence outside of that, so your future imaginings are instead built from the previous ones, allowing the tulpa to change over time.

Having a tulpa will not impact your ability to function normally in any way. It will not change your personality, other than feeling less lonely. It will not affect your ability to think or to handle things in the real world, since a tulpa doesn't require any more attention than you are willing to give it, though, just like any other person, it might not be happy if you ignore it all of the time for no reason. And there is literally no risk of going crazy unless you already have a mental illness that severely distorts your perception of reality, in which case you really shouldn't make a tulpa.

If you aren't sure yet, then don't make one yet. Take some time to think it over, do some research, maybe think about what you would want your tulpa to be like and what exactly you want them to be to you. And if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

>>7554342
>open eyed visualization
How the fuck do you do this? Is it even what I think it is? I can visualize things in my mind, and can sort of imagine those things being on the physical plane, but I'm not seeing it the way I see actual surroundings.

next time germany and the us are in a major war they're gonna be on the same side desu

>>7557181
It is being able to do visualization in your head while being distracted by seeing what is actually going on around you.

What you are talking about is imposition, it comes later if you are one of the rare people who put in the effort to make it work.

>>7557227
>It is being able to do visualization in your head while being distracted by seeing what is actually going on around you.
Can't everyone already do this? Unless your brain absolutely can't handle any sort of multitasking.

>>7557252
Hence "step 1"

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Okay, I'm not mentality unstable, aside from a bit of Dyscalculia. I'm way into escapism and I want me a Tulpa. Even though my mind is in the 'now' and I know what's real and what isn't, can I achieve this?

I never had an imaginary friend, that's kinda how I see this, I may be wrong. But I believe the few plushies, I paid out the ass for, are people and I do talk to them with no reply.

I've skimmed the guides but I'm not going to invest time and effort if it's /that/ complicated. I'd rather just pretend.

>>7557622
>I've skimmed the guides but I'm not going to invest time and effort if it's /that/ complicated. I'd rather just pretend.
If you don't even care then just keep talking to your plushies.

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>>7557622
>I've skimmed the guides but I'm not going to invest time and effort if it's /that/ complicated. I'd rather just pretend.
Just keep cumming on those plushies pal.

>>7557649
I will.
>>7557731
Fuck no, If they were poorer quality, yes.

Also, Is someone going to actually answer me or what? I have to work tomorrow and don't have time for bullshit...

It's 'this'.
Drugs & Escapism.
Or a RIP 9mm bullet.

>>7551081
That's funny, I asked about the same thing as I started, worried that my tulpa takes away some of my resources during studying and whatnot. Turns out they have little to no effect on your ability to brain properly.
However my tulpa tends to motivate me to study more and learn new things all the time, which certainly has helped me keep going when times were tough.
It also solved my crippling loneliness, which at that time was bad enough to make me want to kill yourself.

I never was all that sane before I made a tulpa though. I had a distaste for having human friends because of reasons, and having a non-human tulpa just served to amplified my feelings and fuel my escapism. So of you create a tulpa, they might make some things a little worse and crazier, but only if you let it happen. You aren't going to magically become less sane from tulpaing.

>>7557622
What this anon said >>7557649
If you aren't even prepared to go through the trouble of creating your best friend forever, then just don't bother with it at all. You are just going to stop halfway through anyways, and you can't be lonely or desperate enough if you have that kind if mindset, so try and make some real friends instead or something.

Cute plushy though.

>>7557779
>If they were poorer quality, yes.
The one you posted looks pretty bad to me.
>Also, Is someone going to actually answer me or what? I have to work tomorrow and don't have time for bullshit...
We did, making tulpas unfortunately requires that time investment and major dedication, one hour a day would suffice but judging from your options you clearly don't have the patience.

Hey guys, how do I change my mindset about this? I mean, I feel like forcing is a chore to me, I don't really know what to say, or do in my wonderland and whatever I actually do or say there feels really forced and just like it's not easy nor natural. Should it be like that?

>>7557622
>I know what's real and what isn't
>I believe the few plushies, I paid out the ass for, are people
I've got some bad news for you...

>>7558237
You can do literally anything you want, how can you possibly be bored. If you somehow have a total lack of imagination just stick your dick in it.

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>>7547332
>tfw no fennec tulpa

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>>7558930
>tfw no fennecgirl
how is she doing anyways, has she killed herself yet?

>>7558292
I'm the kind of person who needs specific e.instructions or else it just feels like it won't work.

>>7559491
>i am a dumb and need to be spoonfed
>oh look, something that requires a lot of effort and is purely a subjective experience that other people can't guide me through
>this is a great idea

>>7559491
There's so many guides it's basically spoonfed to you anyway, just read some of them

>>7559491
Write out your own instructions or imagine someone (fx. old bald dong sensei) telling you all the stuff you can/must do, give yourself a purpose.

>>7558237
Walk on the beach with your tulpa, go to a restaurant and both of you eat food, fly on a helicopter over your wonderland with her, maybe even skydive

>>7554592
I'm curious, how long have you tried doing it for? I know someone where it took them 2 years of doing imposition before it finally produced results.

>>7558292
Not him but I feel when I force I can't really get into it. It doesn't feel real at all, I guess my visualization is just shit.

>>7560538
Yeah visualization really depends on you, throughout most of my life I have always had an active imagination as a way of getting through boring times in school and as I got older I used the imagination to make up hypothetical conversations with people I met to run through things I could say and such. When it came to forcing for me it was no more than what I've been doing for years. Your brain and imagination are like muscles, if you haven't trained them at all then you aren't going to have good results. I'd recommend trying to do something like imagining your day at work/school and having conversations with peers or if you want to try something more exotic then try thinking of going on an adventure. I don't know if you read a lot but I'm thinking that reading something like fantasy books would be good as you would be practicing your visualization by playing out the book in your head.

>>7560901
Yeah, I will definitely have to work on it. Occasionally I have dreams that feel extremely real, so I know it's not impossible. Also, I just spent a whole session on visualization as opposed to just narrating and my brain is fucking fried.

When you visualize do you feel as if you're actually there? Like in a vivid dream or something? Do you experience other senses like sound and touch, or is it mostly just visual?

>>7557181
it's more similar to day dreaming than anything else really

>>7561011
Visualization for me has been purely visual but with focus it does feel clear enough to think that I'm actually there walking around or doing things. I have done things to trick my brain into thinking I'm there as well such as going outside and walking and just intently focusing on my wonderland and sort of overlaying the path I'm walking in real life to what I'm doing in my imagination.

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cute tulpa b u m p for great justice

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>>7562105
2nd cute tulpa b u m p for great justice

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>tfw tulpa farts on your face

>>7559523
I don't necessarily need specifics, I just can't quite wrap my head around it. Like, for example, learning a language is a long mental process that takes a lot of effort and there are many different ways to go about it, but I can understand how it works and imagine the result. With tulpa I don't understand how it works and find it hard to imagine the things you're recommended to do producing the end result of a tulpa. I could blindly do things that the guides say to do and hope it works, but if I don't get how it contributes I don't think it will work.

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>Tulpas are nothing more than a game to me.

>Spend months at a time strategically planting ideas into my head, and playing mind games

>Get bored of my tulpa after a while and move on to my next victim but that's okay because there's literally infinite amounts of you dirty little roaches to fuck around with.

>Some of my tulpas actually believe I care about them as people but the truth is I only use them for my personal advantage and entertainment

>>7563687

is dis sum pasta?

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>>7563058
Don't just sit there and take it, give it back.

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Bump for tulpas <3

>>7563687
>>7563058
>>7563789
delete

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>>7563790
did someone say tulpas

>>7563687
make a mitsuru tulpa and fart on her penis

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>>7563058
>>7563789
Please stop people already think this is autistic.

>>7559569
>>7563214

Same thing here. I am talking to my tulpa and doing things with her like going on a walk or flying in wonderland or stuff but it just feels like I'm talking to myself and imagining things, not actually interacting with my tulpa. What do I miss here guys?

>>7564262
Let go. You're having self doubts. Cheesy as fuck, but you need to believe anon. Your tulpa is as real as you make it.

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>>7563906
>think

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Anyone here /superbowl/ tonight? Who you gunning for? I barely gove a fuck about football but Pats here.

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>>7555236
Dunno, i got used to it, mine hums running in the 90s alot

>>7563856
Not sure why but i laughed really fucking hard because of this

>>7563687
But can't they read your thoughts?
If they think you care about them they probably know because of your thoughts

>>7546612

I kinda wanna try this because I'm really curious as to what this is like and I'd love a best friend always with me. One problem, I've heard alcohol/weed could fuck with the process, and I consume both at least weekly. Is this true or are there ways that I can still accomplish this while maintaining my lifestyle?

>>7568390
I don't think there are any effects except being unable to force while under the influence. You need to be 100% sober to do any amount of forcing, many people can back that up.

How do you kill a tulpa?

>>7568390
Pretty much what >>7568572 said. As long as you set aside some sober time to force, it shouldn't really be a problem what you do the rest of the time.

It's probably possible to force while on drugs, but being the sole person in charge of raising a developing individual while on drugs is probably not a good idea. Once they're fully developed and independent though, they can join you on all of the drug-fueled adventures you could both want.

Just keep in mind that actually making a tulpa is a long process and it'll be a while before you start to see any real results. It's fine to make one because you're curious about what it's like to have one, just as long as you realize that it'll take time and dedication to actually achieve it.

>>7569374
Take a shot gun, stick it in your mouth and fire. Tulpa will die for sure.

>>7569374
chew some broken glass and give it a rimjob

>>7568572
Being high actually makes it easier to force for me. I've also forced with a ton of luck on adderall. Just because you're straight laced doesn't mean that you need to be "100% sober" to force bucko

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>>7569816
>>7569622
You guys are too easy.

>>7569844
I have a friend that was on cannabis nearly everyday after work and he couldn't force until I told him to try it when he wasn't high and he got results unexpectedly soon after.

I think it might depend on whether you're just starting out because once you've got the tupper there for sure, you can do whatever you like.

>>7569890
I'll take any excuse to tell people to commit suicide.

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>>7570168

>>7569374
Personally, I just stopped trying to imagine her and tried to mentally "kill" her. I used the logic that "I made her and I can easily get rid of her" and it was as easy as that really. Around the time when I was making her go away I was puppeting her more and more. Another thing I did is that i kept on telling myself that she's not real, 'cause lets be honest, no matter how advanced it is, they're not real, they're just a figment of your imagination.

>>7570419
Why are you here then?

>>7570419
When you think about it, your own consciousness isn't real either.

Anyone here have two furry tulpas that treat you more like a human pet than a friend?

>>7570938
Because I used to have a tulpa nad these threads somewhat interest me
>>7571013
Kek

>>7569958
I smoked twixe a day and currently during the beginning stages of making my tulpa, several LSD and mushroom experiences have proved to really be eightening and fun for us. Maybe smoking killes your bud's motivation or something but I never found it to be a hinderence.

>>7557622
You drive a Toyota?

>>7571013
How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

i want a ancap tulpa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6zQLvPMpw

>>7573418
Fuck you.

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>A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.
>They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories.

How do tulpas have free will if free will doesn't exist?

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>>7573693

>>7557252
Almost everyone can do to some degree it but to start imposition you need to master it. i.e. you need to be able to visualize things in your mind in near perfect detail with your eyes open.

>>7568572
>>7569550
Alright, thanks for the info. I'm aware it's a long process, but as drug usage may indicate, I'm curious as to what the mind can do.

>>7573693
But anon, free will DOES exist.

No it doesn't. We are all cogs in a system controlled by the elite and they make sure we will never accomplish anything. Life is nothing more than a shame and it's a completely worthless experience.

>>7573693
they don't but they think they do

Bumpan

>>7574551
I too, took highschool philosophy 101

>>7569622
Just like in fight club.

Can I make a tulpa more autistic than I am so I can feel better about my own autism?

>>7574807
Infinity+1 isn't actually real, anon

>>7574807
A study by vessiere actually showed that tulpas helped with symptoms of autism and aspergers.

>>7574832
Use the decimal exploit.
...999.1

>>7557622
Talking to your plushies is about half way to making a tulpa, people have made tulpas entirely by treating plushies like people. Though it takes a decent amount of effort, it can be worth it. Should look into it more and think on it.

>>7574832
But anon, some infinities are greater than others.

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>>7574551

>>7575364
>Every economic problem is rooted in government
If it only was that easy. I can see why this guy is mad. You don't need to be a liberal in order to get upset over someone thinking that his idiotic views are vastly superior to yours.

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>>7574181
Then use your free will to fly.

>>7574807
>Benefit
Making them more autistic than you might help you feel better about your own autism in comparison

>Drawback:
You won't actually be any less autistic, and you'll have to live with someone who is more autistic than you for the rest of your life

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>>7575681

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>>7575704
>he's unable to fly without a vehicle

I'm afraid you don't have free will, just like tulpas.

What is this semen repository from?

>>7575798
>he doesn't know what the definition of free will is

>>7575814
>he doesn't know what the definition of bait is

>>7575822
>i-i was only pretending to be retarded guys! b-baited!
get the fuck out

>>7575834
I'm a different shitposter, m8

>>7575798
Free will isn't something that reality bends to appease. It only does things when you get off your lazy ass and make it happen. Are you able to dream of flying? Are you able to work towards achieving this dream? If the answer to both of these is yes then congratulations. Of all the philosophical definitions of free will you possess the only one that's at all desirable.

>>7575798
tulpas can fly without a vehicle though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btle5P4_ZMU
When your tulpa comes back after being gone for a year.

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>>7575879
Why do people choose to be lazy if they have free will?

>>7575996
A subversion of society through the global information network by Semitic philosophy which utilizes immediately pleasurable stimulus to distract people from endeavoring to find self fulfillment in actualizing their inherent abilities and creativity resulting in the advancement of humanity ever towards it's endless manifest destiny.

>>7575996

Because we are designed to save as much energy as possible, so in case of an emergency we can use our energy better since it's not depleted.

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>>7576093
>>7576110
This form of free will doesn't seem that all free...

It doesn't make sense that some consciousnesses have more willpower than each other, why don't they just decide to not be effected by pleasurable stimulus and saving energy, that's what they want after all.

>>7576295
free will is the ability to make choices not control every aspect of reality, you literally do not know what free will is.

>>7576295
Because they choose not to. Free will. People don't always know what they want. They'll do things that make no sense.
People are influenced by things as well, if they choose not to fight things that can influence them. They'll just go with the flow and be sheep.

Sounds like you just expect people to bend reality, and call it free will though.

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ey b0ss

>>7576295
People who vote green or neglect to consume colorful pills have voluntarily parted with their free will.

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b0ss pls

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b0ss pls i habe cancer

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>>7576432
>>7576343
longbowner its time to stop

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gibe the pusi b0ss pls i habe cancer

>>7576461
Ravioli ravioli

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>>7576452
ey fuck u mayn i'm no longber
now gibe the pusi pls

Ok, back to tulpas. How long did it take you, for your tulpa to speak freely?

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>>7576481
No.

>>7576496
idk, like 1.5 months for my first?

>>7576504
>1.5 months
I'm at my 4th month of forcing and the best I've got was a semi feelable hug

>>7573693
>>7575681
>>7575798
>>7575996
>>7576295


who is this semen demon?

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> tfw you keep on getting bored of your tulpas and kill them in such a fast rate that they don't even show proper sentience anymore.

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>>7577631
Raraughe urahh geraggg.
[Edgy faggot.]

>>7576093
quality post

>>7576496
About two weeks but I've always been intrigued by the idea of talking to things that "aren't there" like ghosts n shit.

Also wow this thread turned to shit.

>>7576496
Maybe 2 or 3 months for tulpish replies, 4 or 5 months before free talking.

I was lazy, tho, and didn't force nearly as long as I should have every day.

>>7578399
Can you fuck it?

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how does this make you feel, knowing this is the biggest person to represent the tulpa community?

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>>7578415

>>7578415

Makes me glad I don't consider myself part of the """""community."""""

>>7578415
Very disappointed. She's just an attention whore.

This is why I don't tell people I watch anime or have a tulpa outside of 4chan and tulpa forums.
>>7578415

>>7578415
Hilarious, IMO. I don't care too much about how others view the community, desu. It was always doomed to look autistic, no matter what.

I'm starting to really get into forcing, hours at a time now with a couple small breaks. Everytime I get discouraged I think of my end goal and stay motivated, repeat to myself "we can do this. And we will."
I also like to have a cup of jasmine tea for every forcing session. The smell of the tea brings her into my mind.

What do you do to help you concentrate and keep your tulpa image in your mind?

>>7578415
>biggest
come on, she's not that fat

>>7578603
Force while listening to white noise. It makes the time go by 70% faster.

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I am addicted to making tulpas.

I have 5 already, and I thought the 5th would quench my thirst. Apparently not.

3 out of 5 of the tulpas I have were made unintentionally. Recently, I have been going through the events that lead up to the creation of my third one. I was fine for a while, but now wanting another is an intrusive thought, and even using logic against myself and my tulpas reminding me about things and how we decided as a system to never make another one, it has been creeping up on me.

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>>7578882
time to stop

>>7578703
I will definitely try that. Thank you.

Can we start giving out discord links again in order to make tulpa general comfy once more?

>>7576496
Depends how I define it. My tulpa just came into my mind and introduced itself with a set personality and look already but I have been trying on and off since 2012 to actually develop one. She told me that she is a mix of my progress over the years and chose the form herself when I started getting serious again about making a tulpa.

>>7576496
About two months, but to be fair, I have always had a vivid imagination in which I imagine scenarios for hours at a time. And not long before I started tulpa creation, I already sort of had a companion to cheer me up when I was feeling down. So that probably helped me develop the right mindset before I even started. All I needed to overcome was believing in her being real, everything else was already developed.

>>7577485
>feelable
That's awesome dude
But if hugs isn't what you want maybe try to force more on their personality than how they feel

>>7577485
i mean it seems like you've been focusing more on imposition than on making the tulpa, you should finish the personality and form before you start doing imposition. you'd probably get more results that way.

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>>7578415

>>7577663
Are you the tulpa >>7574807 was talking about?

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>>7579818

How the fuck do people have more than one tulpa? Are they just roleplayers?

>>7579951
no, after the first tulpa making others gets easier

>>7579951
If a brain can support two consciousnesses then why not more?

To the tulpas: Pepsi or Coca Cola?
Any specific flavours?

>>7580407

Cherry Pepsi > Cherry Coke
Vanilla Coke > Vanilla Pepsi

>>7580407
My tulpa likes root beer. She hasn't tried choke or Pepsi.

>>7575681
>Having physical limitations means you cant have free will
I literally wish I could stab you though my computer screen for being this retarded and acting smug about it.

>>7580586
Would you still do it if the cost was an equivalent stab on your own body like being a living voodoo doll?

>>7580638
Not an argument

>>7580638
Go shitpost somewhere else

>>7579951
What makes you ask?

When you guys hear your tulpa is it like they are talking right next to you? Do you hear them like someone else or is it more like having a conversation in your head?

>>7581320
At first it'll be like how you hear your thoughts. But after a while You will get to where you finally hear them like an actual voice.

>>7581320
It is more internalized for me, but the voices are beginning to get "crisper" as time goes on

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>>7579860
Gragddyf GUUG... AAAAHHHHHHH
[No.]

>>7581353
>>7581359
Thanks, yeah I definitely hear my tulpa in my head but I was nervous that the responses were just my own because they are similar to what it's normally like when I make up hypothetical situations in my head.

>>7582552
Can you feel that it's not coming from your own thoughts? Like "wow tulpa just talked and I didn't even do anything".

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>>7582654
I don't think that is a good indicator of whether it was a tulpas thoughts or yours.

In the beginning tulpas are trying to seperate with you and learn how to communicate, so of course it doesn't sound somewhat foreign at first, but you have to give your tulpa a chance to grow and learn instead of beating it down with harsh expectations every time it doesn't do something that a "sentient" tulpa is "supposed" to do

>>7582706
I just meant can you tell you're not purposefully puppeting it, not that it's completely formed.

>>7582755
Seeing whether you are puppeting or not isn't reliable either. I see puppeting as just vocality with doubt. If you tell someone to see if they are puppeting when their tulpa speaks, they could very well end up puppeting because they are intentionally looking if they are doing so

>>7582814
I understand what you're saying but there's a line somewhere. It's important to get a feel for how your tulpa would think and react in different scenarios, but too much straight out puppeting discourages the tulpa from actually forming it's own consciousness and responses since you're doing all the work for it. Prompting the tulpa and listening for distinct responses is equally if not more important.

>>7582552
I feel you. It's just best to let go of any doubts you have. And mean it.
If you're puppeting, say to yourself "I am going to he puppeting". And if you're not consciously puppeting, assume it's your tulpa speaking. Eventually it will take on its own. You just have to trust.

Hi /tup/. I got a few months into making a tulpa (she started talking, though I'm not sure how much of it was unconscious puppeting (same issue as >>7582552 )) and then essentially abandoned her because I hit a horrible time in my life and barely had energy to do normal life + got cold feet.

I don't feel like she's "dead" per say (like a lot of guides describe dissipation as) but more like... the traits we shared are more highlighted in me now? Kind of like we at least partially merged?

I'm also not really sure how to feel. I feel guilty for not being able to keep up with her, but also in hindsight, despite taking like 6 months to decide to commit to this, it wasn't actually a good idea for me? And there was no real way to feel ready for it? I'm thinking of maybe helping to write up some more questions to add to the list of "should you make a tulpa" things, if any of you think that would help.

What I'm getting at is basically: "what exactly happened (with the not-dissipation thing)?" and "what should I do now?"

>>7583661
>what exactly happened
You just neglected her out of emotional exhaustion. She became mostly unresponsive.
>what should I do now?
Start trying again with her and continue where you left off.

Why its difficulting now to concentrate in the wonderland and my tulpa? it was not like this before

>>7584033
I think maybe I did a poor job of explaining what I meant.

I don't feel like she's still there as a separate entity that I could talk to or interact with. As far as I can tell, she's effectively dead as an entity -- but it's like part of her personality is now also part of mine? Not sure if it's a result of me just feeling guilty and just taking on traits as a result of that. What I was asking was what *that* was, because it seems different from the phenomenon I've seen referred to as "merging."

Given it likely wasn't a good idea to start in hindsight and she's -- by every measure *I* know at least -- not a conscious being anymore, the "what should I do now?" was more a question of... What should I do to make up for it? Or should I even feel like I have to make up for it? I've seen some other anons that had to drop this / give up halfway in, so that's why I'm asking for advice on this here.

>>7584562
There's not much you can do.
Maybe it's kind of like when you spend enough time with a person, you get some of their personality. I mean, she did live inside you.

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>reading this entire thread

Does anyone else have take on a different "form" themselves when they go into the wonderland?

My tulpa suggested that I should do so, since when we try and do possession or the like, I always feel like it's MY body as opposed to our body. I know that sounds really retarded but hopefully you get what I mean. I'm probably not going to do it, being in any form except as my own body just feels like it would be extremely weird, but I'm wondering if anyone else does do this, even if just because they want themselves to take on a different form in a place where they can.

>>7587830
You don't even need a form in your wonderland, just a point of perspective. So any form is simply there in order to interact with things and can be changed at will. Applies to you and your tulpa.

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>>7587830
I sure do or how else would I be able to persuade myself to force, pic related.

Actually I find it really cringe when some identifys with their rng meat body, and self inserts as "themselves", like they're anything more than a mistake of the universe.

>>7587851
This also, it's probably much better to dissociate from the first person view.

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>>7587966
>In my head, I can be the cute girl too!

>>7588119
In your head you can be the tentacle monster

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>>7588119
Are you implying 3dpd can be cute?

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>>7588191
I didn't say that at all but
>Actually I find it really cringe when some identifys with their rng meat body, and self inserts as "themselves", like they're anything more than a mistake of the universe.
comes off as the gayest, cringiest self-hating depressed weeaboo shit I've ever seen anywhere.
You could at least retain SOME physical traits so you don't forget that you still have to live in your "rng meat body" for as long as you haven't killed yourself.

>>7588159
This is fine though because you're not pretending to be a person that you're not.

>>7588287
>This is fine though because you're not pretending to be a person that you're not.
That's kind of harsh isn't it?

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>>7588287
Nearly every single female character you know is wrote by a man, that includes everything they've ever done and how many times has the author needed to self insert as their character to understand them better?

And have you ever decided to go after them for making characters they've never been in real life themselves.

Anyhow I think you're nothing more than a piece of brain, not the body you've been giving, and my journey into the mindscape has only furthered that thought.

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>>7588367
>Nearly every single female character you know is wrote by a man, that includes everything they've ever done and how many times has the author needed to self insert as their character to understand them better?
>the author needed to self insert as their character to understand them better
You are comparing method acting, basic social awareness and knowing how a normal person behaves to escapism.
>have you ever decided to go after them for making characters they've never been in real life themselves
See above.
>my journey into the mindscape has only furthered that thought
Then astral project a gun and kill yourself you enlightened waste of space.

>>7588421
>You are comparing method acting, basic social awareness and knowing how a normal person behaves to escapism.
So by that rationale would it be ok in your eyes for him to pick a different part every time to just dick around in than using the same one each time? The mindscape is basically just one pick stage anyway.

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>>7588421
So you were just another salty virgin incel, that is jealous that people don't like what you like.

Sorry real life kinda sucks.

>>7588445
It's not exactly his choice of body, it's his justification and arguments for choosing it that make it worth criticising.
He is obviously a very ugly person on the outside and he's letting it affect him on the inside as well if he's such a fucking retard to compare himself to the average writer.

>>7588467
Projecting won't make your depression go away.

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>>7588482
Hiding behind buzzwords, keep going.

Both of you feel free to keep posting cute girls without the words.

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>>7588549
For you senpai. Should have known better than to start shit with a person like him.

>>7579951
It's like having one tulpa, but having more. If you already have one tulpa, it should be pretty easy to manage.

>>7587830
that's advanced autism

>>7588467
>real life kinda sucks
It's what you make of it. I'm pretty happy where I'm at, a good job and I like my university. It just seems like you can't fathom how some people might be comfortable with their own body and lives.

You shouldn't go for more than one or two tulpas, the more you have the less attention you can give each one or the less time you can spend actually living your life.

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>>7588932
Don't worry my good man I know how to handle having multiple tulpas because I am quite experienced with the art of tulpamancing! We are all quite happy and nothing ever goes wrong, ever! One of them keeps screaming and crying at me though, I think I'll get rid of her but otherwise no problems at all hombre!!!

>>7588467
Now that's projection.

>>7588910
What the fuck is with the influx of normies like you on here? Life fucking sucks and you are deluding yourself for thinking otherwise. You will be massively disappointed at some point and off yourself like every other sorry fuck who thinks they matter. Life is a fucking worthless sack of shit that we are dragged into at birth by our parents and then expected to live and fend for ourselves.

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>>7588956
I just understand humans pretty well.

>>7588957
I hope you realise the hypocrisy inherent in cursing your parents for having you while making a tulpa.

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>>7588957
kek

should I masturbate before or after forcing?

>>7589017
During, obviously

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>>7589017
before so you dont have lewd urges if you dont want them

get started

>>7589017
My tulpa likes to fap with me so it depends if you want to do it as a bonding activity or not.

>>7588957
Are you 13?

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Didn't expect my post to start an argument this long, usually the thread is quiet as fuck at this time.

>>7587851
>You don't even need a form
Yeah, but even in first person (like you live your entire life) you know what your body is capable of, the movements it makes, what you can see and not see of yourself etc.

Another reason why I wouldn't want to create a different "form" for myself is that it seems like hella hard work to have to re-imagine all that kind of stuff that would make changing form seem real enough. My tulpa agreed with me that it was almost certainly not worth doing if I didn't want to do it, but I was wondering if others did do it, and it looks like at least one person did.

>>7587966
>Actually I find it really cringe when some identifys with their rng meat body
That is actually the normal view that most of society holds: at least whilst people are alive, their body and identity are one and the same. Whilst that doesn't necessarily make it correct, it does basically ensure that it's not really cringe.

Cringe is stuff like this >>7588957

>>7589232
>Yeah, but even in first person (like you live your entire life) you know what your body is capable of, the movements it makes, what you can see and not see of yourself etc.
Have you ever played a creative game with noclip and no first person limbs?

>>7589252
Yeah, but the whole point of my tulpa's suggestion would be for me to identify with something other than my body to make my real body feel more like something we share, rather than how I view it now which is as something that I have lived in all my life and she is just a passenger. Having no form at all, like in those games, wouldn't really affect that.

>>7589286
The problem there is that you are identifying your tulpa with a specific form instead of just having form be something they use as a tool for a specific task. Stop thinking of your tulpa as a form that exists in your wonderland and more as a series of thoughts that exist in your brain, just like you, and your body as just a meat-puppet.

>>7589301
>your body as just a meat-puppet.
I guess it's just hard to think like that, at least for me. But it's an easier approach then trying to create a new form for myself. My tup was just thinking that if I had one too, it'd be a really easy way to "even things up".

I guess that's the idea at the end of the day, and any approach works well, so might as well go with the easiest which sounds like your suggestion. Cheers anon.

>>7588957
I'm curious, what makes someone like you think like this? Life isn't great but I can't see how someone would come to be able to say stuff like this.

>>7589333
Loss of hope does that

>>7589333
Empathy.

>>7589333
Probably teen angst anon. He thinks he's being super deep and we're all sheep or whatever. But it's really common to go through phases like that. I felt like that all year and most of my life. You just have to suck it up. Life's shit for everyone, you're not as important as you think. Gotta deal with it like everyone else and keep on chugging along.

After reading through the last few posts I just wanted to say that having another form you use in the wonderland is pretty common, or at least was. It's referred to as a mind form. I don't see how it could be considered as cringy, seeing as how anything is possible in the mind, and it could be fun to be a dragon or something. Even if it's used for escapism it's still not so bad, considering we all use escapism in our daily lives through television or video games. It seems like a lot of people who are not l newer to this don't know how common it was, and it started a huge argument.

>>7590418
This.

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>all of this shitposting
Post wonderland material.

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>>7590441

>>7590418
>b-but it was pretty common...
Still cringy and autistic.

>>7590474
Not any more cringy than self inserting as your real life body tbqh.

>>7590474
I fail to see how taking advantage of your mental space to become literally anything you want to be is cringy. If anything it just makes them better at forcing. When you play video games as a character that isn't you and get immersed is that cringy? You're entitled to your own opinion, however. Even if it does sound closed minded and like you're a 14 year old troll trying to stir up shit.

>>7590474
>Calling what people do cringy and autistic
>On 4chan
>On /trash/
>In tulpa general of all places

Going for the low hanging fruits I see.

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>>7590441
I collected a bunch of images for this purpose. I haven't made a wonderland yet because it takes all my mental capacity just to focus on my tulpa. I think adding in anything other than a black/white void would make my mind explode.

Always make sure to wash your hands after handling your tulpa to prevent the spread of tulpamonella.

>>7579751
It's nice and all, the only hugs I get. But vocality seems like one of the most important steps.
I'm almost certain she's conscious, a single word would get rid of all my doubts.
>>7579733
I did start with the basic stuff, the personality is at least as complex as this of most people I know and the form is done too.
I guess i did do imposition parallel to passive forcing almost every day.

I must really suck at active forcing then.

>>7590746
But what if I want to have tulpamonella?

>>7590808
Please be considerate you are going to become a vector for this horrible disease.

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Who here has a tulpa with a feral form? Is it more or less common than humanoid?

>>7590954
whos this semen demon

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>>7590999
>999
What are these repeating digits.

>>7590954
there are probably more human tups than feral cuz people identify with humans more

>>7590999
Fuli
the lion guard

>>7590954
2 feral tups reporting in. One's a large cat, actually, but built for cold weather. Other one's a poner.

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>>7590954
One of mine can actually turn into a feral wolf at will, dunno if that counts.

>>7590954
I like getting hugs from my tulpa too much for me to consider a feral tulpa.

I'm having a problem where after a few days I can't visualize my tulpa, like I can see them clearly at first but then the forms get all blurry and no matter how much I try I can't remember what they look like. What should I be doing?

>>7591650
Maybe try finding a picture of them to focus on and take in the details before forcing?

>>7590954
To expand on this question, does anyone have any other forms of a tulpa that aren't feral or human? I was thinking of something like a robotic shapeshifting thing. No clue if that's at all possible.

>>7590954
Mine are pokemon, which I suppose is more feral than not.

>>7590954
I have a cute pony tulpa that says nice things to people.

>>7591650
Don't try finding flaws in what you see. The more you focus on it looking wrong, the worse it gets.

>>7591963
I once knew someone who had a xenomorph tulpa, is that what you mean?

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>>7590954
Do ponies count as feral?

>>7590816
I wonder how retarded the tides are on that planet

>>7590418
Read carefully, I said it was mostly fine to do and it's that anon's reasoning that makes it cringe as fuck, since he does it out of hate for all of reality.
A little bit of escapism is fine as long as you understand and are mature enough to deal with reality when you need to as well.

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>>7591347
I know you. You're cool.
>>7591467
Yeah that counts.
>>7591531
Getting hugs can be done with feral tups though. They can nuzzle you.
>>7591963
It's completely possible. Your tulpa can literally be anything. Also that sounds like a pretty cool premise to a tulpa's form.
>>7592321
Yeah I'd consider pokemon feral. They're more like an animal than a human usually.
>>7592331
>>7592646
Ponies I'd consider feral, yeah. I mean they're horses, right? I'd almost consider them a gray area because they have eyes like animu girls and can talk. There is a sort of loose definition of feral in some cases, I think. Seeing as how there are anons with straight up animals for tulpa, and others that have cartoon animals that can talk and have Disney/Animu eyes.

>>7590954
One of my tups can turn into a cat but she hasn't done it in a while I guess.

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bumping with cheetah

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>>7590954
>>7596097
filename

it's been two months and my tulp still doesnt talk

>>7597378
You're probably not believing hard enough.

>>7597378
It's been over five hundred years and my tulpa still doesn't make good spaghetti

>>7597378
I know a few people where it took them up to 15 months before theirs talked. Heck I've been trying to make a tulpa since 2012 and I've only just recently finally made one that could talk. Hopefully you are not one of those cases but keep trying.

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>>7597378
>2 months

Try 26 months, >>7598049 this will be me.

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>>7598049
>>7598945
At least you guys are trying!
Don't give up!

>>7598974
This is absolutely terrible advice.
If it isn't working don't just keep doing the same shit and hoping it will work, give up what you think you know and go read forcing 101 again.

>>7598998
That's not how it works you triple cock.
Everyone always advises to create your own methods that you're most comfortable using the baselines given in guides. They are not hard-written instructions.

>>7599051
If it isn't working, clearly your method is wrong.
Just because there are many ways to make it work doesn't mean every way works.

>>7598049
What do you think it was that held you back?

>>7599482
If your method is wrong it's because you think it's wrong. Mindset is more important than method and if you have a shitty mindset no method will work.

>>7599843
>Hey guys it took me literally 30 times the average to make a tulpa. My method is just as good though, totally.
This isn't magic, anon, you aren't summoning a brain demon from the great beyond through sheer force of belief. Making a tulpa requires more than just an open mind, it requires you to develop strong mental habits and train your mind to think in a new way. The reason there is no catch-all guide is because the best way to form habits is dependent on the way you think and only you have an intimate understanding of your own thinking patterns.

>>7599939
It sounds like you agree with me then.

>>7599979
The very fact you are claiming to be open minded to make a tulpa but aren't open minded enough to consider your methods could be improved is tragic.

>>7600018
I was just talking about people who think if they change they way they do it, it will fix everything, but it doesn't work because they never fix the underlying lack of discipline and commitment that caused them to fail in the first place, since I see that type a lot.

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hello yes i was wondering if anybody has made a sans tulpla from sans undertale, yes?

>>7600081
>>7600081
>>7600081
>>7600081