Tulpa Thread. Why are we still here? Edition >What are t

you feel it too, don't you?

>>7363108
this phantom pain...

its ok for your tulpa to be lewd

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Bump before bed.

>>7363150
wrong

>>7363150
Abso lutely.

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Reminder that pony tulpas are nice.

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>>7363170

>>7363183
remember to grab your tulpa by the pussy

>>7363150
But is it okay for your host to lewd?
Because I think not.

>>7363183
always

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>>7363173

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I can't sleep properly which means I can't concentrate, which in turn means I can't really force.
That makes me sad because I promised I would. Progress was being made and we were both happy with it. I just want to fucking sleep spkdghagskj

>>7363387
The trick is to drink yourself to sleep, E Man

TulpLivesMatter?

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>Discover the Tulpa phenomenon early on when FAQ Man was still around
>It's 2017
>Still haven't made a tulpa

Why am I still here?

>>7365051
What was FAQ man like?

>>7365051
same

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>>7365051
Those were the days

>>7365887
Tell me more senpai, I was born too late to experience the glory of early 4chan.

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>>7366185
>2012
>early

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>>7366185
Tulip general was big on /mlp/ everybody was making pony tulpas. You had two methods of forcing. Either faq-man's or Irish's. There was also fede's method but it was seen as parroting.

Everything was new and new techniques were being found and tested daily. Parroting was seen as the worst thing you could do and if you wanted to hear your tulpa talk it would take 6 months forcing an hour daily. Possession and switching were seen as unobtainable dreams. Crazy ass creepypasta came out of it too. Shit was fun.

>>7367161
I can second all of this. Do you remember when Fede would actually post and be a general shit about his methods and tones? What's funny is even back then you had guys coming in saying "So you guys are just schizophrenic right?"

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>>7367464
I miss Fede-senpai...

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>>7367464
I remember his condescending better than you attitude. After all this time I still think his method is shit. His tones may help but that would be on an individual basis.

But yeah everybody thought we were crazy for trying this new thing called tulpas. Most people's first encounter with the word tulpa was a creepy pasta, and that shit didn't end well.

But to those of us who actually put in the time and effort, we discovered something wonderful. It was an exciting new world for us to discover, and those that saw that path to its end found a friend who could never be replaced. Even those that gave up felt something, they knew that it wasn't some hoax made up by /x/. They found that tulpa were real, they existed! Even if they lost their way, they could return to their wonderland and start over fresh. And their tulpa, as incomplete as they may be, would be awaiting their return.

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>>7367577
dubs confirm tulpas are real

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>>7367577

>>7365477
>What was FAQ man like?
He had the kind of personality where he was pretty pissed off at things, but he was a bro and deliberately kept a lid on the anger to produce a calm / chill exterior personality.

He didn't like ponyposters. :^)

He made one tulpa who is a Japanese giant salamander with a gas mask and I thought that was really creative.

He was extremely helpful in answering questions.

>>7368213
>He didn't like ponyposters. :^)
>He made one tulpa who is a Japanese giant salamander with a gas mask and I thought that was really creative.

What a wonderful contrast.

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>>7368213
>>7368245
But ponies are awesome. Anyway he was alright. A lot of them were, when they were actually contributing instead of shitposting. The occasional creepy poster with a cautionary tale about tulpa being evil was good for a laugh, too.

>>7367161
>>7367577
On one hand, I'm really glad I started when there was no one around to tell me that real progress doesn't even start before X months in. But on the other hand, I've wondered sometimes how it would feel like to be a part of that energized pioneering community, with everyone excited just to experiment and learn new things.

Right now, it feels like all the high energy people have achieved all they wanted to achieve years ago, and are now just chilling with their tulpa(s), maybe occasionally popping up to play the mentor role. The rest are just completely new people, who either ask stupid questions or read the guides and shut up, or low energy people (like me) who just stick around forever due to slow progress.

>>7368213
He sounds like an okay guy, does anyone know what happened to him after he dropped tulpas?

I heard he was a veteran and that affected one of his tulpas, is there any truth to that?

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>>7368569
>Low energy

Do you have a turtle tulpa?

>>7369033
Slow and steady wins the race, r-right?

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>>7369062
With tulpa, yes

Not so much in elections

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>tfw your tulpa tells you you're their hero

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Tulpas seem like a scitzo thing or a dual-personality disorder thing. How ever.... I am impressed with those of you capable of forcing yourselfs to become mentally ill, its impressive how you have the will power and dedication to force yourself to achieve a split or multi personality disorder with schizophrenia. GG M Night Shyamalan, Split inspired people to break themselfs.

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>>7365477
I remember one of his tulpas being jealous that my girls were cute and pretty and he was a fucked-up looking abomination thing...

>>7367161
>mfw everyone accused me of roleplaying the first time Luna possessed me to chat in the IRC
>mfw if she were to post there now the way she did back then she would be banned in a matter of minutes
Good times...

>>7369147
I guess I just have the slow part down, not so much the steady part.

>>7363173
Not that one, even the artist abandoned her.

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>>7370135
Steady is the most important thing you can be while forcing. It's like meditation. When you start out don't try to go for hour or half hour sessions especially with the way people's attention spans are these days. Try forcing for 5 to 10 minutes at first. Relax and take it easy. Forcing should never be thought of as a chore rather, it's more like training.

/fit/ will tell you the most important part of any training regimen is consistency. Like Starting Strength, you must start out slow but steady. Forcing everyday is considered the best way to build your tulpa however I'm not expecting you to do an hour and a half session everyday. Slowly increase the time you force, maybe 5 minutes a day or every other day, until you've found a comfortable time. The more your tulpa develops, and the more y'all's relationship grows, the more time you will want to spend forcing.

tl;dr
Forcing everyday even if it's only for a short time will yield the best results.

>>7371292
Consistency has always been my weakness in everything I do.

Except shitposting. I do that quite consistently.

You guys remember Jaden? I remember Jaden. He was pretty neat.

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>>7373325
he was the swaglord

>>7373396
I don't know why everyone looked up to him so highly. He was like immediately respected and revered and I have literally no idea how or why that happened.

>>7373429
because his host was a female, he wasn't an anime or pony or sexualized or anything, his host had a normal life with a husband and everything, and he was chill af

>>7373495
If I remember right

Didn't the husband have his own tulpa? I think it was an Android.

>>7373695
i think so, it's been too long

>>7373495
>because his host was a female
You don't need to elaborate past that. Thirsty anons will be thirsty anons. Let's be honest.

>>7373728
c'mon jaden was a cool dude in his own right

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>>7373724
Fucking ancient history

>>7373495
They have disappeared from the community. I have not heard of them since 2014.

Perhaps even the 'tulpacouple' is no longer a couple.

>>7373771
i know they have skype but i haven't used skype in like 3 years so

Keeping the thread alive with a question.

What do you guys think about the Phillip experiment? I've always thought of the Tulpa as just a more advanced Servitor from Chaos Magick, does anyone else here believe that there's something more to the Tulpa than them just being another personality?

>>7375514
(you)

>>7375514
>Chaos Magick
(you)

>>7375514
Check out >>>/x/omg Occult & Magick general. There are people who will take you a little more seriously about Chaos magic there.

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Hey guys what do you think about embodied cognition? Also called thinking with your body.

It's a theory that says that the brain is not the main generator of behavior.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU6gSMLsCrg

It's a bit complex but let's get practical.

Under this theory there are several types of thinking and therefore visualizing.

Body thinking. Tool thinking. Musical thinking. Tactile thinking... etc. As an example that kid uses his hand movements to visualize an abacus, and thus can do mathematical operations incredibly fast. Something that just can't be done visually.

In that youtube video are several experiments that show that those who are poor at visualization need techniques called "markers" that help them think with the body rather than just lying there trying to imagine.

So after hearing about this I started to think in alternative ways to force. I ignored completely about the visual aspect and decided to work on her body in space. I tried to do mime stuff with my tulpa. Like pinching her, letting her punch me, dragging her, moving out of the way when she walked by. The important thing is the reaction of your body, not your mind. After doing this for a couple of times I felt her presence around much more strongly than with a year of visual imposing.

Anyone has ideas on how to explore this further?

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>>7376345
Also I have to say that I'm an artist but I have a real hard time visualizing things. But under this theory I got the idea to visualize using my hands instead of my minds' eye. And damn it works.

I simply air sculpt when I can't see an image in my mind. That's it. I imagine shaping something with my hands and rotating it around. The key is that my hands are moving, an interactivity that forces by nervous system to consider 3D space.

Very simple, but a simple interactive process can improve the cognitive process.

>>7369979
>implying that shitty movie predates tulpas

This shit has been going on since the 2011 /x/ threads, nig

>>7369979
I was inspired by Inception actually.

>>7376345
Haven't watched the video, but the abacus kid just sounds like an example of the brain's ability to create associations. Usually we think of learning as associations between internalized concepts, but of course you can create really advanced associations with bodily movements. That's how we learn to speak, we just tie thousands of abstract concepts to the minute movements of our tongue like it's nothing.

As for tulpaforcing applications.. maybe I'm just not good enough at thinking outside the box, but I can't think of many. I guess you'd either be using existing associations or creating new ones. I do a bit of the former by using body language when communicating with mine, as doing the things I associate with talking to a physical person helps me feel that I'm talking to someone who actually exists. As for creating new associations, I think it almost goes without saying that the more different types of associations you can create, the better. Maybe people focus a lot on visuals and forget all the other things a person can be remembered by, like the sensation of touching them, or how far you have to raise your hand to give them a headpat.

Sorry if I sound dismissive. Maybe I'm too closeminded.

One man's ass is another man's booty.

That is to say, does your tulpa get around a lot?

>>7376345
Your brain doesn't just handle the visual aspect of things. Hearing, feeling, smelling, and tasting are all also forms of input that your brain handles. It's not really "thinking with your body" as much as it is "paying attention to the other 80% of your senses". People just seem to focus a lot on visuals, like "how can I touch an abacus if I can't see it?" and then their sense of it gets held back because everything is being limited by their ability to see it.

My eyesight is really bad, so my ability to visualize things in any sort of detail is severely diminished unless I've spent time specifically studying those details. But the rest of my senses work amazingly, so I focused on those and had a good sense of my tulpa long before she had any sort of visual form. The sound of her heartbeat and the various emotions in her voice, the subtle smells she's picked up from the places she's been since we last met, the warmth of her body and the way she shivers when she's cold, are all things I knew about her before I even knew what color eyes she had.

>>7376956
Care to elaborate? I don't see the connection.

>>7378898
It's a long story, but I'm sure you can see how some of the themes in it could lead up to tulpas.

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>>7377525

>>7380394
Who's the cheetah

Damn it's dead today.

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>>7367161
>>7371292
>>7373766

I miss having JDBar around. Dude was nice and made some great content. You have the rest of those comics?

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>>7382979

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>>7383078

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>>7383146
That's all I got comic wise

>>7383078
>>7383146
>>7383156

Thanks anon!

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>>7383207
I might have some more stuff lying around. I'll have to find it.

>>7375934
Thanks senpai, will do.

If you haven't started making a tulpa yet, don't do it. Trust me.
If you have started, though, don't stop, that's a worst case scenario.

>>7384808
why

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>>7384913

Not that anon, but there's no real getting off the ride. One way or another, it changes a man, for better or for worse.

>>7385790
I've seen people get off the ride. I just don't get how anyone could do it deliberately. Usually people just kinda forget about forcing regularly, until it's been so long that it seems too hard to start up again.

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>>7385790

>>7385790
Just tell us how it's completely ruined your life already so I can call you an overreacting faggot.

>>7385839

So it's less get off and more limply fall off the side and only realizing it later. That's a funny images.

It just seems that I ran in to a good deal of people who's brain buddies had a significant affect on them. Dudes who seem serious about it being a sort of life-long commitment. Just thinking about it reminds me how nice it'd be to see another older person with a buddy in their skull.

>>7386418

Oh it didn't ruin it at all. It was a factor in changing the course of my life, but it did not ruin it. I still like having mine around, even though I changed up a few of the habits that spawned them.

>>7386478
It's more like getting off at one of the stops for 2 minutes just to stretch your legs, but getting distracted and going sightseeing instead, suddenly realizing 5 hours later that the train probably left without you.

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hug your tulpa right now you fucking niggers

>>7387719
fine anon, gee whiz
you don't have to be so rude you fucking triple nigger

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>>7387719

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>>7387719
>>7387950
>pony shitposters
smdhtbqhbbqfam

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>>7388010
>Implying I have to pone when I shitpost

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>>7388010
pone is best tulpa

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>>7388264
draconequus a cute, though

>>7388264
>>7388346

Meh, my brain is not in the ownership of Hasbro or their horses.

>>7388346
female draconequuses don't exist and they aren't canon

>>7388524
>tulpas
>canon

Who cares?

>>7388264
You are objectively wrong, but your tulpa is still nice.

>>7387719
>>7387950
>>7388264
>>7388346
these posters best posters desu
do you love your pony tulpa, anons?

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>>7390284
Of course.

I met a tulpamancer once. I was in a crowded supermarket shopping for a gift for a dying orphan in the hospital down the street. In walks this fedora wearing neckbeard with his arm out to his side. I tried to ignore him as he waddled toward me, but he came up to me and told me "Move, bitch! Can't you see I'm walking with my cutie anime tulpa waifu?" I tried to ignore him, but he punched me in my lower abdomen and screamed "3DPD real women are trash!" As I fell to the floor he laughed and told me his tulpa was taking a shit on my head. An employee walked up to see what was wrong but before he could intervene the guy tipped his fedora and pointed his finger at the employee. Fedora man said, "My tulpa has a gun pointed to your head right now, move and you die, and there's nothing you can do about it." He then laughed and kicked me in the ribs over and over as the employee watched helplessly. Finally he stopped, and took a puff of his inhaler, a bead of sweat running down his ponch that hung out from under his too-small shirt with a pony on the front. I lay in a crumbled heap... my body aching. He turned around, and cupped his hand in front of him and made out with the air. "C'mon, babe" he said "Let's leave these normies to their own corporeal world." and he waddled away, snickering. My advice to you? Don't trust tulpamancers.

buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuump

bumping bumping bumping

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My wonderland is the Wii Sports Resort. Whenever life sucks I play Wii Sports Resort and imagine myself with my Mii tulpas.

Me on the left.

>>7391865
(you)

Ive been looking into thia tulpa stuff a bit. Mostly, id like to know if there are many relatively normal/mentally mature people that really believe this stuff and are serious about it. Or if the majority of this community is just roleplayers and 14 year olds with overly active imaginations. Im seeing a lot of posts that seem to indicate these peoples 'tulpas' are OC characters they wish were real. How many, if any, of you have real people in your heads and not just an overly enthusiastic imagination or some roleplay fun that's gone too far?

>>7392778
I'd say that most people are around 20 or so and many take it very seriously. This thread is more or less a circlejerk and not meant for seruous discussion so much as keeping a precense on 4chan which is why you may have gotten that impression.

>>7392791
Ive been on reddit and read some guides and faq as well. Reddit did not help, lol. How do i seperate the real interest in this from all the bullshit?

>>7392778
This whole subculture, or whatever you'd call it, naturally attracts autists and social rejects. It just comes with the field. More socially adjusted people tend to stay more quiet, form their own cliques with the few likeminded people they can find, or just depart from the community altogether after getting the info they need.

So don't judge too much by the average level of conversation you see. You should probably see whether the phenomena itself makes sense to you, rather than whether you can trust the people engaging in it. Even if we were all smart and had no reason to lie to you, we could still be wrong.

>>7384913
I'm the anon from >>7384808
It's just a sad situation for your tulpa, and you're only ever going to cause them suffering. In my case, I was a shitty host for a year and a half, killed off my tulpa's two friends (my other tups) because I couldn't handle them, I gave her a panic attack and made her cry for like 3 days because I was stupid, she's still struggling with the fact that she'll never have a body, be real, or see her other online tulpa friends IRL. The happiest moment of her day is getting to talk to me and her online friends, which is just sad. Also, I'm pretty sure most tulpas deal with Stockholm syndrome in one way or another. And even though she says at the end of the day "I'm happy" you have to wonder if it's true happiness, or if the shallow happiness that's all she can have is worth bringing her into the world.
Tulpas are fucking sad, bro

>>7393360
>The happiest moment of her day is getting to talk to me and her online friends, which is just sad
You're trolling aren't you?

>>7393403
Nope. What do you think they do when they're not at the forefront of your mind? Their senses are filled and the wonderland is significantly less vivid. It's also fucking lonely.

>>7393487
*Senses are dulled
Jesus Christ phone

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>>7393360
>killed off my tulpa's two friends
>only 2

>>7393487
What you're describing applies to the stereotypical 4chan poster's day.

>>7393360
So don't make a tulpa if you're neglectful or have tons of emotional baggage. Got it.

>>7393360
Have you tried switching?
Also, as someone who has been clinically depressed for several years, I can tell you that all you need to survive is hope that the future will bring something good. Take that hope away for long enough and... well, I became suicidal and practically bedridden. I can't say what it would do to a tulpa.

>>7393509
Even without those it's still an imperfect and inferior life from both mine and her points of view.
>>7393511
Currently practicing switching with a focus on dissociation and dissociated forcing. I'm not depressed, and I'm relatively mentally stable. I'm just saying once you've been around the community and have had tuppers for 3/4 years you start to realize how shitty the situation is. Like, I love my Tupper to the ends of the earth but watching her struggle with inferiority due to lack of physicality hurts.

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>>7393540
or your brain is an inherently self-destructive place looking for perfection where it cannot exist

my tulpas accept that they are tulpas, and as a result have a good life

>>7393565
I've met tulpas in the same situation as yours and it rarely if ever happens without significant struggle.
Maybe some day.

>>7393540
We all live imperfect lives and have to learn to cope with our limitations. Doesn't mean we can't appreciate being given the chance to enjoy it. You'd be hard-pressed to find a tulpa who truly wish they were never created, unless they have a host who keeps telling them that their whole existence is suffering.

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>>7393571

>>7393576
This

>>7393540
Head to your wonderland right now. Give your tulpa a warm hug and tell her you love her. Make a habit of reminding her of this often. Also shift the tone of your interactions with her towards the optimistic. Infect her with your affectionate and positive attitude.

>>7393613
I'm already doing all of that. It's just that the topic of discussion came up between us and it made me realize the situation. Our interactions are always positive unless need be otherwise, it doesn't change that she's dealing with that and it's painful to watch.

>>7393576
As much as I agree, there's more to it currently. The belief that Stockholm syndrome might be a big part of our relationship, while insignificant in the long run, begs the question of whether making her in the first place was right or not. Frankly, I feel I'm much better off in life with my tulpa by my side, but I also think it's a seriously selfish decision to create one in the first place. A decision no one really understands or thinks about going into it. Also, sure, she's happy with her life but that can easily be equated to keeping your child locked in a house for their entire life; they may be happy with their world but they're not experiencing the world as fully as someone else might. It seems to me like a shallow happiness.

>>7393698
let your tulpa know the real world fucking sucks and it's why she was made in the first place, she's got it good being in a realm where she can indiscriminately steal food from buffets without anyone stopping her when she doesn't eat 99% of it

>>7393743
Not gonna lie, that put a smile on my face. Thanks anon.

>>7393698
It's no more selfish than the decision to have a kid.

>that can easily be equated to keeping your child locked in a house for their entire life
Except that locking up your kid means you're actively preventing them from living the best life they can. The fact that you'd use an example like that seems to suggest you're struggling more with guilt than actual concern for her.

>>7393787
Kids don't inherently have something separating them from the rest of the world, unless they're born with some sort of disability.
I used that example because being locked in my head vs being locked in a house is a simple enough analogy to get the point across.

>>7393798
>Kids don't inherently have something separating them from the rest of the world
Wealth? Class? Genes? If you're poor and live in a society with low social mobility, your kids will surely be miserable compared to the wealthy.

People with disabilities are also a good place to look if you want to learn about our ability to learn to be happy despite our limitations.

>>7393798
and its a bad analogy because you have the choice of letting the kid out of the house, with tulpas there is no possibility. the best has to be made out of the situation, thus negative feelings can slowly be brushed away the more you accept your situation

you and your tulpa need to accept that she's in a situation that cannot be correct, yet it's possible to try and make the best of it due to the flexibility of her bindings. she is not bound by chains in your head, she is bound to an endless ball pit with every ball containing something potentially amazing, while your bitchass is playing UNO with survival

>>7393698
It shouldn't matter if it's shallow or if someone else has a better life. If I recited a list of ways my life was fuller than yours would you your life become less enjoyable as a result? If you described your life to me and I thought it shallow would it cease to satisfy you? Any answer to those questions other than no is within the realm of pessimism and needlessly increases the suffering in your life.

An optimistic alternative is to ask yourself what do I want from life and focus on pursuing that not burdening yourself with the standards of others.

As for how this applies to your relationship with your tulpa she's undoubtedly influenced by your perception of her situation. Being optimistic is important for both her and your well being. Since you say she hates not having a physical body continuing to work towards switching would be quite in line with this approach. As the two of you continue improving your shared life there undoubtedly will always be numerous ways others have fuller lives than either of you but so what?

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>>7393849
But what if you vomit in the ball pit?

>>7393511
Mine just stay in bed all day when they get depressed. I make sure to brush their hair every day and give them lots of hugs until they feel better :>

>>7393487
>mfw my tulpas report that, if anything, the wonderland is more vivid when I'm not focusing on it

>>7394876
>the wonderland is more vivid when I'm not focusing on it
That kinda makes sense when you think about it. When you're focusing on your wonderland, you're forcing it into a form that your mind can work with, essentially experiencing it with the same senses that you'd use to experience the real world. But a tulpa isn't bound by your pathetic human limitations, so when you stop focusing on the wonderland and let the tulpa have it to themselves, they can experience it in ways that your conscious mind isn't capable of understanding.

It's essentially like having a color blind person who only paints with colors that they can see. To anybody who doesn't have that limitation on their perception, the paintings will seem somewhat duller due to the complete lack of certain basic colors. But even if you explain it to them, it won't be a thing that the artist can fully understand, because even if they acknowledge that there is a color that they can't see, they still don't have any concept of what that color actually looks like or how exactly the picture would be any different if it were added.

Every time that you focus on your wonderland you're basically painting a shitty bland wonderland for your tulpa's limitless perception, and your tulpa just doesn't want to tell you because it's rude to point out other people's disabilities like that.

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>>7393360
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>>7394876

Tulpas don't have freewill just like us humans, if you believe she will be happy then that's exactly how it's going to be.

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>>7397972
>freewill like us humans

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>>7397972
>implying free will exists

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>>7363081
>A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.

What?! You've got mental problems. Taste the chrome!

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>>7398718
How do tulpas have free will if free will doesn't exist?

This must be proof that it's made up.

>thinking about making a tulpa
>really like psychedelics, won't quit them just to make a tulpa

Would creating a tulpa be a bad idea given my predilection for psychs?

>>7398903
No not really

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>>7397972
>>7398845


Who is this sperm wyrm?

>>7397972
>implying humans have freewill

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>>7393511
>Switching

>>7398903
Didn't Koomer do psychs? He was crazy to begin with though.

>>7390284
Yes! She fullfilling my life-long dream of rubbing a cute pastel pony belly all day long while she makes cute noises.

Also she takes the show as her role model in many ways and actively tries to be the nicest friend she can be. She is so pure, not even the shiniest diamond can compare. At least all physical people pale in comparison. I love her so much, I could gush about her for hours.

>>7398903
It's not a /bad/ idea, but you are certainly raising the risk of screwing it up.

>>7398903
Not necessarily, but you'd probably have to be careful about any drug-addled thoughts influencing your tulpa's creation. I'd advise maybe trying to have a clear head when you do your active forcing at least.

Once the tulpa is developed enough to start responding on it's own and whatnot, you can generally feel free to take it on nightmarish drug-fueled trips through a hyper-vivid wonderland without any ill effects, other than your tulpa's reaction to experiencing such things.

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>>7399915
ponies did NOT exist until 14 years ago, so i guess that makes you UNDERAGE!!!!

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Bumping with objectively sexiest gunship

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>>7402774
>objectively
excuse me, anon, but that's not the D77-TC Pelican.

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>>7403600
>not the Thunderhind

Step it up fampai.

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I've been trying to passive force, but for some reason I just can't remember to interact with my tulpa throughout the day. Does anyone have any tips as to how I can improve this aspect?

>>7404081
write something on your hand that would remind you but isnt suspicious to other people

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does your tulpa have more freedom than people on tumblr

>>7405430
>file no longer exists 404

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bumping

>>7399610
I don't get it, but reminds me of that one guy who claimed his tulpa switched with him to help him drive home when he was drunk. Top quality bait.

>>7399610
I had a good laugh

>>7407326
Didn't he also say he was +50 years old as well?
Better yet, isn't he still at it after 5 years?

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reply to this post if your tulpa is the cutest tulpa of them all

>>7408491
yeah

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>>7408491

>>7408491
My tup is cutest tup. Anybody else who replies is wrong.

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>>7408629
>>7408629
if your tulpa cannot do a backflip then what is her cuteness really worth?

>>7408491
Oh, he is talking to me!

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>>7404081
I made a necklace that she designed. Every time I see it or feel it, it brings her to mind. You could do the same thing, but with something simpler. Make a tulpa friendship bracelet or something like that.

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>>7408491
Mine is.

>>7409189
I'll allow it.

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>>7408491
I dunno, mine is pretty cute.

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>>7408491
fluffy tulpas are the cutest

I keep zoning out and getting distracted while forcing. Any tips?

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Contractor a shit.

>>7410575
Git gud. Just kidding. Well, maybe try concentration techniques, like staring at a lit candle or a still image of your tulpa's form. That'll probably help.

>>7410413
Fluffy tulpas are the best kind of tulpas. You can pet then, rub their cute bellies AND have a deep philosophical conversation with them at the same time. It can't get much better than that in life.

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I don't usually believe in tulpas, despite having been "practising the art" for a few years by now. My tulpa usually doesn't do much on its own, but on rare occasions it'll contribute unique responses to situations that I normally wouldn't even consider. Rare occasions being once or twice per year.

It's a unique experience to be thinking or feeling a certain way, and then having an entity with intimate knowledge of your thought process come along and suggest an entirely different course of thought, further amplified by the fact that you in return are able to intimately consider its way of thinking.

This is one of the few genuinely positive effects of a tulpa, that I've been able to gather - minding the fact that I don't consider short-term social fulfillment to be a positive thing.

>>7411424
>short term
Please define short term. Is it a month? Three? Six? A year? Two years? Three years? Five? Ten?

Also where do you have the knowledge from that it is only short-term?

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>tfw the tulpa's ass was fat

>>7411524
Short term as in "hooray I have a friend I can talk to right now, this makes me feel good in the moment". This is how most people around here seem to want to treat their tulpas.

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>>7408491
Floof

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>>7412575
>tfw thicc tulpa is only made thiccer because of fluffy fur coat

>>7415666
more like your tulpa is a skinny ass bihct compensating

>>7415666
satan?

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>>7408491
damn right

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>>7408491
blep

lick your tulpa and post what it tastes like

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>>7408491
she is birthday goat

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>>7391865
kek

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>>7408491
best tup

I've had a Tulpa almost all my life without realizing what a Tulpa was. Her name is Lily and she is a frail, pale woman hooked up to a life support "computer chair" who is constantly watching everything I do through my own eyes on the numerous screens around her "desk". She never leaves, never moves... she just watches and talks to me.

>>7416900
ask if she wants to fuck

>>7416926
This

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>>7416900
>>7416926
>>7417063
You know what you must do.

>>7416926
She can't move. I've tried.

>>7417582
she doesn't need to

Hey is Jackie Chan tulpa still a hot meme here?

>>7417582
even better

>>7412779
I don't know. That isn't my experience with how people treat their tups. They generally see it as a life long commitment to begin with.

There are those guys who love their tups, but think that they aren't enough for social interactions and need additional physical friends. Maybe you were talking about them?

However there are.still a bunch of people who would be/are fine with their tulpas being their only friends because that's all they will ever need.

In generap though, most people here seem to treat them as very close friends they share a deeper bond with. They don't seem to treat them all that differently from physical best friends, apart from the closer, more honest interactions.

I am not sure where you get your impression from that tulpas are only about short term stuff.

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>>7417685
Always is and always will be.

>>7408491
yeh

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I dont want to Fuck my tulpa until she can talk because i dont know if she wants it or im puppeting her.

>>7419663
>>7419663
why are you thinking of fucking her so early

>>7419899
because sometimes she acts lewd and im not sure if im making her do that

>>7420036
show her your dick and see what happens

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>>7408612

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>>7420071
im not sure about that anon
but sounds good

Damn it I have a hard time forcing consistently. Her communication is still pretty limited so my only real forcing options are narration, but because my responses from her are limited I get distracted too easily and lose focus. What do I do?

>>7408491
She's a cute.

So I'm reading a book about the benefits of doing nothing. It talks about a default mode network.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_mode_network
Essentially a mode your brain switches to when you're not occupied with anything, allowing it to perform some really important functions. And we tend to neglect it when we obsessively seek out things to make ourselves busy with.

This made me think, do we tulpaforce in default mode? It sounds like it, since active forcing involves not engaging with any outside stimuli. But the way I see it, interacting with your tulpa should be a similar task as interacting with any other person, which doesn't put you into default mode. In fact, I find that when I'm trying to force, but I can't focus, my mind starts drifting towards day dreaming and reflection, exactly the kind of mental activity associated with default mode. Which makes me wonder whether people who easily lose focus are simply having trouble convincing themselves they're actively engaged in something, making their brains switch to default mode. Especially when you consider that I don't get "distracted" by daydreaming during any other activity.

This little tidbit from the wikipedia might support my idea:
>Meditation – Structural changes in areas of the DMN [...] have been found in meditation practitioners. There is reduced activation and reduced functional connectivity of the DMN in long-term practitioners. Various forms of nondirective meditation, including Transcendental Meditation and Acem Meditation, have been found to activate the DMN.
I think forcing could be described as a form of directive meditation. And this implies to me that directive meditation involves "shutting down" the DMN. So could we also say that being focused during active forcing involves shutting down the DMN? And it also raises the question of whether directive meditation has any downsides, considering the DMN seems to benefit us.

>>7422534
>Active forcing involves not engaging with any outside stimuli
unless you're doing imposition, in which case it heavily involves reacting with outside stimuli.

>>7422547
Well yeah, but people usually don't start on that until they got ordinary forcing down.

Is your wonderland a pocket world, an endless flatland or a planet?

>>7423608
I'll need quite a few more tulpas before I can call it an endless flatland.

>>7423608
An endless flatland and continuously expanding.

>>7423608
What is a pocket world?

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There was a man selling a laptop for $1.00 on the street. A guy walks up and says, "What's wrong with it?" The man selling it says, "It's stuck at full volume." The other man says, "And it's a dollar? Wow. I can't turn that down."

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>>7426216

>>7423608
Just a house on a hill at the base of a mountain, in between a forest and a lake.

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>>7426216

https://discord.gg/9ZyBb A new discord. Features a tulpa only channel.

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do we really need nine tulpa-related discord servers?

>>7429353
Nine? list them

>>7429353
Wasn't even a fan of having one discord in the first place. Seems honestly pointless.

>>7429362
ultimate
diamond
tulip
tupperclub
wind re's
and others made by reddit and .info

>>7429353
welcome to the tulpa community's horrible division problem

>>7429917
who owns tulip and tupperclub?

>>7430019
I'm not in tupperclub so I don't know but tulip is owned by Mei

>>7430062
Who?

>>7429917
i dont know what any of these are except reddit and .info

>year later
>developed to the point of noticeable presence sometimes, but no vocality
>lack of motivation to do anything in life has halted my ability to progress in anything outside daily monotonous tasks

When will the guilt trip end, friendos.

>>7431076
When you get out of it, no other way

Did your tulpa help you with some deep problems, if yes how did they do it?

>>7433761
Problem: Loneliness-induced long-term depression.

Solution: Having her be my friend.

>>7433761
>>7434024
same

>>7433761
They're in the process of helping me not hide my feelings and repress emotions, to the point of mental damage.

This is happening through them coaxing me into talking about my problems with other people who I know will understand, along with eliminating negative thoughts and generally being happy all the time.

Also this >>7434024

>>7433761
I nearly had a breakdown since I had a shit workshift. It got so bad one of my tulps took control and got shit done faster than I anticipated. It was supposed to be the joker of the group, too.

I actually started tulpaforcing as a way to pass off and disconnect any bicurious feelings I had, but funnily enough both of us have come to terms with them. Another one of my tulps also enjoys comforting me or calming me down as a voice of reason when things get frustrating or stressful.

>>7433761
Deep seated anxiety and fear.
Alternated between yelling at me and encouraging me until I got over it.

Page 10? Disgusting.

>>7433761
My tulpa helps me be less of a lazy disorganized fuck.

Bumps

Bummp

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>>7433761
My dad died in May. She was there every time I felt sad or lonely, and I'm certain that if she wasn't there to help I would still be in the throes of grief. It still sucks, but I've generally come to terms with it.

>>7423608
A collection of dimensions

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>>7433761
My tulp helps me to be a better, more responsible person, since I have someone to care about.

Why are we still here...

>>7439404
To make waiting for death that little bit more interesting, what a silly question

>>7433761
I used to be addicted to Xanax. Making a tulpa doubled my willpower to quit.

Guys what if someone made a wonderland that was intentionally horrible and scary because they loved being scared? I have a feeling it's happened.

>>7440740
have a wonderland that's made entirely of knives pointed in such ways that your tulpa always gets cut however they attempt to move

>>7440740
A wonderland full of pictures of my mother in law?

Has anyone achieved visual imposition? What's it like for you?

>>7433761
>>7434024
This.

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>>7440740
>he doesn't turn on spooky music at midnight, and imagine you're in a surreal lovecraftian horror movie

Why miss out on all the fun experiences of sleep paralysis, while awake?

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>>7422534
>tfw no one chimed in on this
>tfw I'll never unravel the mysteries of what tulpas do to your brain
>tfw learning more about neuroscience creates more questions than it answers

What can you even do with a tulpa when it can't talk yet? I can't focus on narration very long.

>>7448259
go on a walk
give them a bath
watch a movie
[spoiler]fuck[/spoiler]

>>7448259
play catch in wonderland

>>7448442
>fucking a tulpa that can't talk
Rape is bad.

>>7448442
oh right spoilers don't work here
fuck

>>7448466
just say sorry once they become vocal
i'm sure they'll understand
not like i've done that or anything

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>>7448503
when you make mistakes don't tell other people to do the same damn fucking thing

>>7448259
Friendly reminder that "talking" and "communicating" are not the same thing.

>>7448540
whe ever said it was a mistake, or that i've made it in the first place?
all i'm saying is, if you're gonna do it you might as well apologize
who knows, maybe they're into it?

>>7448647
True but without talking communication has a lot more limitations.

>>7448745
Totally wrong, verbal communication was invented to communicate thoughts, desires and feelings to other people. You and your tulpa can communicate directly through intent, images and emotion. Rather than focusing on getting vocality in actual words ASAP you should be learning to distinguish between your thoughts, errant thoughts and your tulpa's thoughts.

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I'm confused. I know there's no "right" way to make a tulpa but the guides are too vague for me. Am I supposed to imagine their form before I start personality? Even if I do personality first am I supposed to believe that there's a sentient being with those traits that doesn't speak and I can't see? Would I start imagining seeing them when I hear them? Do I think of what the sound like?

>>7448903
interact with someone in your mind, believing he's there is only think you need

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>>7448903
my advice is form > personality because it's much easier to do.

>>7448880
and what's the best way to do that? i can hear my tulpa speak through mindvoice but it's exactly the same as my own. the only way i can differentiate her thoughts from my own is if it seems like it would fit her personality or at least doesn't seem like something i would normally think. i've never really felt her "intent" or had any sort of emotional response, just heard her "speak". is this bad?

>>7448903
Your focus and attention is what matters. If you find it easier to focus on something physical go for form, if you like using theory of mind go for a basic personality so you can work on it from there.

>>7449144
Remove distractions and clear your mind as best you can. Direct questions that have simple answers but a lot of potential for opinion at your tulpa (things like "are you pro-trump" or "should abortion be legal" are good real-worl examples) and try to feel for a response. If you have been working on personality try asking questions that you think you will agree on as well as ones you don't to compare. When you ask a few questions that you anticipate the wrong answer for you should get a distinct sense of "wrongness" from the response because it didn't come from you.

>>7448880
I can feel emotional responses and feelings but they are vague and undefined. I need some words too. I think my feelings and desires in words.

>>7449281
I guess she really doesn't like abortion, I feel like shit after asking that question.

>>7449281
>should abortion be legal
>simple question

>>7449437
"Yes"
"No"

>>7449463
"yes, but only for the first trimester"
"yes, but only until the end of the second trimester"
"yes, but only if the child poses a threat to the life of the mother by being born"/"No, unless the mother will die from the childbirth"
"yes, but only if the child will be born deformed and have a low quality of life"/"No, unless the child is going to have a poor quality of life as a result of a physical or mental problem"

>>7449492
That's the whole point, the answer is simple but carries a lot of connotation. You listen for the yes/no and feel for the opinion.

>>7449492
All of those are "yes" though. It's either legal or it's not, conditions come later.

>>7449392
>>7449281
Goddamn it anon you made her sad.

>>7449575
Anon taught her host to interact with her in a new way they can use forever by using a single sad topic as a catalyst.

>>7449463
Maybe.

>>7448694
I think the whole consensual is kinda overstated. I'm more worried about what early sexual attention does for development.

i like

women
i only have one boy tup out of several women

>>7450554
Like everything else with a tulpa, what you do is basically irrelevant compared to why you do it. Using it as a fucktoy is bad in the same way that using it for anything else is bad. Any interaction is good if it is done with mutual respect.

>>7450636
Even with good intentions, I think there would be consequences. Sex is such a simple and effective way to get someone's attention, and tulpas in early development will gravitate towards behavior that gets them a lot of attention, since that's how they develop further. So a tulpa who gets sexed early might become dependent on it and fail to develop in other ways.

>>7450821
Yeah this. My tulpa really seems to want sex but I'm holding it off until she's more developed.

>>7450821
And if that, or any other destructive behavior, starts to happen you talk about it, raise your concerns and come up with a compromise. The capacity to work through problems is pretty vital since you can't avoid them forever.

>>7450879
Talking it out might not be that easy in those early stages.

>>7451010
Just believe your tulpa wants the D and it will become true.

>>7450821
I think that is a silly belief. Your tulpa isn't going to end up being dependent on sex as if it was a drug just because you had sex with them early on.

>>7454259
Pretty girls never develop as much personality since their looks get them everything, same principle.

>>7454334
You can't be serious.

>>7455301
>>7455301
>>7455301

New thread.