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Zootopia General: Night talks edition

Pastebin: pastebin.com/iYDU8g2T
Booru: zoo.booru.org
ZTArchive: ztarchive.com
Desustorage: desuarchive.org/trash

Previous thread: archive.b-stats.org/trash/thread/6559278
Thematic Thursdays: Winter
More information: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdays
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How do you think this ship is like?
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>>6565500
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nth for comfy Nick
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I'd recommend pastebin
>>6565455
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>>6565509
>ワーイ
Ya---y
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If anyone here likes Remmy and Charlie I drew a thing
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>>6565540
ty translator anon
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>>6565546
we like charlie and remmy

we definitely like your thing
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>>6565509
Both are dead serious on the open and barely show any affection. No fun allowed and even come to actual arguments every time.

When they're private both relax and Jack can be normal without trying hard to be taken seriously and Skye can also be cuddly without getting weird looks.
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>>6565546
holy shit I love thing
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>>6565546
Damn this is good
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In a bit of a porn mood at the moment

Taking requests
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>>6565546
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>>6565546
Wow this thing. Like thing lots
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>>6565546
wtf i love chemmy now
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>>6565570
lewd the anteater and Gideon
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>>6565570
Remmy blowing a big load on Betty's face.

Betty is clearly enjoying it.
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>>6565570
Show us what lewd things your anteater can do with his tongue
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>>6565546
>the lockpicks in the door
It's the little things.
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Posting this again since new thread happened not long after.

Also taking stream requests. Anon chat is open.
https://picarto.tv/093
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>>6565570
>to fat to be remmy
>doesn't quite resemble Wolter and anneke
literally who?

Oh and a request for remmy strung up as a pinata staring in horror as a blindfolded ozzy paces foward with a bat, as Marty snickers evily in the back round

Also, check em
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>>6565546
I don't even follow PackStreet and you just sold me on Remmy x Charlie
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>>6565602
>talks shit, whiffs dubs
cucked again, lionfart
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>>6565594
Gideon with a floofy winter coat?
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>>6565609
Fuck off smellwater
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>>6565605
They are my favorite even if Betty has a way, way higher chance of ending up canon (Although I doubt Weaver would make any one of them canon to begin with)
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>>6565546
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>>6565594
>https://picarto.tv/093
maybe if you get a second the requests from here
>>6565414
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>>6565605
>I don't even follow PackStreet
Do you want to get crucified?
This is how you get yourself crucified.
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>>6565546
>female spooning male
alright
you're my favorite person now
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>>6565661
Man, nah, don't be that way, anon.
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>>6565661
im gon crucifi u
on mi dik
lil kukboi fgt kys lamoo fukin ass homolvre
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>>6565651
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>>6565475
Why are buns so fun to draw?
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>>6565647
We might not see a canon pair, but it looks Remmy wil get laid in near future. With betty hopefully.
> retarded sheep and autistic fox
Why is Remmy retarded?

Btw did you notice the debate that started from your picture in one of the previous threads?
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>>6565661
I dont either, fite me
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>>6565647
If you're new to the threads, you should check out some of Otterly's fics where he ships Anneke Remmy.
http://pastebin.com/FFJAgcua
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>>6565681
>>6565691
>>6565716

Heathens! Our lord and saviour Weaver will punish you.
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>>6565712
I didn't, I went to bed an hour or so after the post, I believe.

What was it over?
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>>6565732
My lord and savior is Chumpy.
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>>6565734
It reignited the fight from when Remmy Fucked Up re: Al, Ozzy and Velvet.

>REMMY DID NOTHING WRONG
>REMMY DID EVERYTHING WRONG
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>>6565709
very fun
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>>6565749
Clearly it was all Marty's fault
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>>6565734
Look up your post and follow the debate

http://www.ztarchive.com/trash/thread/6555044/6555044.html#p6557273
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>>6565546
So I haven't been around in a while, what's your name?
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Whoever first posted this song, I hate you. I've been able to listen to nothing else for days it's so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjmfQ6ejkPs

Post what you're listening to right now.
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>>6565769
That's a comfy bun.
Anyone who rocks the bowtie is a comfy person.
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>>6565825
Man I love this image.
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>>6565849
Fanart is a fucking treasure of amazing coloring and bodacious 80s movie references.
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>>6565870
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>>6565647
>>6565546
I need more of your Charlie right now
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>>6565594
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!
It's beautiful!
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>>6565870
I think this one is my favorite
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>>6565583
Not my best but there ya go

>>6565577
... I'm never gonna live this down, am I?
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>>6565732
>>6565742
weaver a false cod
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>>6565934
weaver is the holiest of mackerels
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Man, I come home from work and check the previous thread for the day's goings ons, and what do I find?

>>6561428
>>6564516
>>6565091
These three really awesome birthday gifts from these three really awesome artists!
Thanks a ton guys, you're all the tops! (the naked Beaver cake-topper on the last one was a riot)

>>6565546
This has nothing to do with me, but I love Pack Street, Charlie is awesome, and so is this comic.
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>>6565934
police get this nude vagrant off the street
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>>6565920
I love it. Thanks, Grivaire!
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>>6562897
Thanks...?

>>6563715
I love how you color!
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>>6565594
Extremely disorganized right now and having a hard time keeping up with the threads, sorry. Taking a few sketch requests right now, if you guys want.
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>>6565934
Hey TGG! I've got a quick question for you. Have you changed your style or the program that you use? I'm just wondering because your are has looked a bit rougher lately.
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>>6566040
Yea, I'm using a smaller canvas and the binary pen for these fast sketches. It's much quicker and more fun.
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>>6565546
>a hidden desire has been quenched
great comic, anon, love your style!

>>6565709
because they are cute (nooffense)
>>6565769 is evident of that fact
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>>6566056
Alright, that's what I thought. Thanks!
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>>6565546
a new contentfag has appeared! what's your name, kind stranger?
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>tfw comfy thread

feelsgoodman
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Anyone have a link to that character creation game?
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>>6566292
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>>6566327
Thanks!
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>>6566265
comf
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>>6566367
That

is a comfy picture.
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>>6566367
... wait... those bubbles...

...is Judy turbofarting?
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>>6566367
this thread needs more social grooming
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>>6566406
This artist has a ton of them. He has an entire theory about how its a sign of affection akin to kissing because of how mammals preen their fur.
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December already...
Time flies so fast...
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>>6566420
Here's a higher res version of that pic.
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>>6565661
Yeah because not liking oc's is bad
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>>6566265
Comfy is best.

Comfy threads is best threads.

>>6565825
Speaking of comfy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gFUTQMCtv4

>>6566367
Speaking of comfy!

Bath pictures are too cute!
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>>6566390
>>6566390
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>>6566506
I used to do that when I was a kid.

Man, I need to take a bath again sometime.
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>>6566449
Replaced. Thanks, anon
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>>6566390
>more like turboqueefing
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Hey guys, I haven't been here for a while, can someone give me a summary of the past three weeks or so?
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>>6566560
Such cute style!
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>>6565825
THAT WAS ME.

THAT WAS ME MOTHERFUCKER.

WELCOME TO MY WORLD.

I HAVE ONLY LISTENED TO THIS SONG FOR 6 DAYS NOW.

NO OTHER SONGS COMPARE.
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>>6566406
Agreed
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>>6566560
It got cold.
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>>6566560
Porn Detectives
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>>6566560
Comicanon revealed that he was Weaver the entire time.
Byron Howard posted a picture on twitter of Des and Molly fucking along with the hashtag #Zoot2.
Inky now only does requests for donations. She also only accepts payment in dick pics. Include the balls and she colors.
Bunanon is back. However, its an AU Bunanon where she's taller than Red. Other than that, everything is exactly the same.
Nobby bought a Bad Dragon dildo and waved it around on stream.
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>>6566611
>Nobby bought a Bad Dragon dildo and waved it around on stream.
I am inclined to believe the last one
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>>6565825
>>6566578
Huh, this is super good.

This is a rock ballad, right? Because I listened this and enjoyed it a lot, and it has a similar feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMrFiOjxk5s

I know nothing about the genre though.
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haha, best ship.
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>>6566649
Protomen take a lot on inspiration from that movie.

Streets of Fire is the most 80's thing on the planet, and none of that fake, retro arcade stylized 80's. It's billed as a "Rock and Roll Fable"

And the music is fucking awesome. Hard to find music as hype as this.
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>>6566658
Wait a minute
Did you do this?
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Rolling for street; have some pie
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>>6566643
Such a spicy lewd sloth
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>>6566602
Yeah I heard about that. That was insane.
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>>6566658
Behind every great bun...
...is a great fox.
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>>6566545
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>>6566265
comfy is best
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>>6566750
>hearts
this does things to me and i dont know why
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>>6566737
I really like how a stronger, bigger fox just lets smol rabbit to rustle her floof or hug her tail.

very cute, would recommend.
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>>6566766
>hug her tail
tail hugging is GOAT
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>>6566611
>>6566696
how dare you betray my trust like that
what happens in stream stays in stream
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>>6566691
>Dry River Road
>Literally right in the middle of Hyenahurst
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>>6564755
>So is she... the madam of a cat house? I only saw her mention dancing and men, hmm. Are her employees men or women?

I already said they're men. She owns a male strip club.

For women who love to oggle men.

Like I said before though I don't think she's above investing in that sort of thing though.

>>6564873
>He's not a cowboy, or a firefighter, or a police officer, or a doctor, or any of the other things he blurts out when asked.
You forgot magician and lawyer.

>>6564913
>He's a mattress seller.
Don't compare him to that man.
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>>6566787
You post all your pictures from the stream to the threads.
Check.
Fucking.
Mate.
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rolling for job
have ahegao bun
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>>6566739
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>>6566787
Oh come on Slothy, its all over Xslothtube and all the other sloth porn streaming sites.
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>>6566611
>Inky now only does requests for donations. She also only accepts payment in dick pics. Include the balls and she colors.

That doesn't sound like too bad a deal, but I'd feel bad for accepting payment when I can draw stuff for free.

Including dicks.
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>>6566808
You know what would make this picture perfect?
Heart

shaped

pupils.
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>>6565546
fuck
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>>6566578
Pej? Is that you?
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>>6566797

Oh, my bad! I must have missed that. That's really interesting. A motherly figure who has a really prurient business. It could be used in a lot of ways, like to show that one can be sexually-invested (literally, in this case) but also be a loving and supportive mother.

I'll leave the more porn-like conclusions to others.
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>>6566830
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>>6566860
DEAR GOD
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>>6565920
GREAT lewds
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>>6566840
Nope, I'm a different dude.

>>6566860
This has such potential. Keep going
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>>6566852
Like I said, I likely won't draw her much.

I mean maybe if she gets requested or if I get any ideas. Which happens on and off it seems.
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>>6565726
Thanks for the shill, friend

I'm glad you thought of me
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>>6566808
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>>6566860
>>6566894
gifts from heaven
gifts from heaven
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>>6566893
The Way Back was no joke one of the first fics I ever read and it got me reading. Thanks for being cool.
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>>6565920
Holy shit, how'd I miss this? Top stuff, love Betty's expression here. You've really improved, I remember seeing criticism that your faces didn't have enough definition and the expressions you've done lately have really taken off.
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>>6566894
>Nick cums so much is bursts through Judy's body and tears through her pupils and leaks out her eyes
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How's it going /ztg/?
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turns out we're casuals
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>>6566954
Pretty good, managed to get a little drawing time in. How about you?
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>>6566978
yikes
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>>6566978
>that inking
>that cursive
>SSHHHIIINNNNNNYYYY

bretty good put risky investment imho but good for you anon
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>>6566981
have some stuff to do for college but other than that pretty comfy
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>>6566978
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>>6566890

OH NO SHE'S HOT.

I really love lycaons too!

I cook up ideas constantly but I feel bad focusing on my own OCs when you have so many great ones.

Maybe somewhere down the line it will feel less awkward.
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>>6565546
Noice. Good fucking thing man
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>>6567115
This is an incredibly flattering sentiment! I'm glad people like my OCs enough to consider doing things regarding them.

This might sound weird, but I think I really needed to hear this.
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>>6566890
10/10 would pound that granny.
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>>6567207

Of course! I just think it's weird to engage an artist about their characters and then segue it into one's own, no matter how relevant it might seem.

I hope to see more of her in the future (I didn't catch her name!).
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gimme some quick requests
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>>6567262
Charmy
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>>6567262
Gideon dating Judy.
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>>6567262
Nick ahegao with heart shaped pupils.
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>>6567262
Jack and Sky(e) on a ferris wheel.
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>>6567239
She doesn't have a name yet.

There are a few characters I haven't named yet in fact.
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>>6567297
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>>6567262
Calvin and Tristan cosplaying as a redwall badger lord and his bun bun servant.
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>>6567262
Betty the Sheep and Remmy the Wolf
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>>6567262
Nick giving Judy a massage
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>>6567262
Nick dying from a fluff overdose
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>>6567262
Nick looking for his spare keys inside Judy's rectum.
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>>6565546
encourage good CC with (You)s
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>>6567273
>>6567328
I like these. Does this work like POTC 3 where you only need two votes to win?
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>>6565709
I recall Weaver said something about how their ears are good to emote and also can resemble hair or something.

Anyone remembers this?
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>>6567262
Desmond ahegao with heart shaped pupils.
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>>6565825
Awesome Pic. As to what im listening to, here some more 80's inspiried stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjsemNhze7U
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I'm not sure if this was already leaked to the thread but,

https://sli.mg/a/Hp56Zw

Every image in that gay pack.
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>>6567297

Might I suggest something beginning with Ly for lycaon?
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>>6566671
I like that retro arcade stylized 80's stuff though...
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>>6567267
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>>6567419
Is very nice
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>>6567435

10/10 would cuddle
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>>6565904
Man, the top one is rustling some old memory. I have in my mind a very evocative image of a guy looking up like that, and the round window view of his ship is framed like a halo-cum-space helmet.

Does that ring any bells?
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>>6567429
There's nothing wrong with it, but to me I get a much stronger 80's vibe from psuedo cool guys mashing together rock n roll culture with rebellious tendencies and self determination.
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>>6567435
Where were you when Charlie and Remmy had a kid?

ALL OTHER REMMY SHIPS BTFO
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>>6566420
I thought that was common knowledge.
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>>6567305

>not asking for it
>literally asking for it in writing written across her shirt

at some point you have to accept that part of the onus is on you when your clothing is *literally* asking for it, sarcastic or not.
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KSYGER HERE TO SPREAD HOLIDAY CHEER
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>>6567297
>>6567421
that's MADAME Ly m8, show some respect
(btw Inky, I totally imagined teh bouncer of the establishment are Lionesses and Hyenas)
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>>6567503
Nice glasses NERD
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>>6567419
>Guys with multiple pairs of nipples
Unf. I want to nibble them all.
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>>6567457
You have a point. I guess, since i grew up watching lots of 80's action movies, the new retro wave arcadey 80's stuff just "sounds" more 80's to me, for some reason.
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Do any of you guys have any good asmr stuff I can listen too? I need to write and that shit helps me calm down.
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>>6565546
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>>6566750
Source?
>>6567498
If I put illegal things on my shirt, please don't do them just because you do everything you're asked
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>>6567503
nice kitty cat
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Drew my rolled OC
I like her
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>>6567525
That's a fucking six pack you degenerate imbecile
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>>6567563
poofy lapel
I like her
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>>6567555

I'm just saying, when people want something verified legally, they 'get it in writing'. Saying you're not asking for it while you are, in fact, literally asking for it, just seems a little... Stupid?

I think that's a stupid shirt and she should probably stick to something that just implies sexuality instead of being so blunt about it, basically.
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High levels of comf is this thread, great work fellas.
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>>6567563
I like a character with attitude.

Story/job/etc?
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>>6567550
ASMR?
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>>6567526
To me there's two different 80's feels out there. Products of their era, and products of nostalgia.

The neon colored, warm tempoed flash of arcade throwback and cool digital reality feels like a manufactured 80's ideology to me. It's definitely what you think when you imagine the decade, but not the actual product it gave to you.

The other one though feels more real to me. When you see products that look like a drugged out pop star shouted the ideas into a walkman and then some equally coked out business executives through caution to the wind in favor of doing something "fucking awesome." That's the 80's to me.

Less Drive, Blood Dragon and Hotline Miami, more Heavy Metal, Thriller and Blade Runner
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>>6567572
Thanks!

>>6567589
Rich, rich family. Snooty and entitled; Works in the Canal District overseeing a shipping company (Doesn't actually do much herself though).
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>>6567583
source of image?
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>>6567622
>Rich, rich family. Snooty and entitled; Works in the Canal District overseeing a shipping company (Doesn't actually do much herself though).
>Character with a tremendous amount of flaws
I fooking love her. She has an Inky vibe to her.
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>>6567550
>>6567600

The Fan of my computer.
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>>6567629
Sorry, I didn't keep track.
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I have a serious problem
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>>6566670
>全てイメージですよ!
This image has everything!
>ガミガミなでるっぽい
Looks like he's annoyed by the rubbing
>かわいいーねー
Sky(e): "You're awfully cute, huh---"
>That entire bottom right corner
Incomprehensible technological gibberish, just leave as is
>スカイの設計語が全くわからないジャック
Jack doesn't understand Sky(e)'s technical language
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>>6567563
>>6567622
She'll fit right in.
...we're going to lewd the fuck out of her, fair warning.

>>6567676
>Marty in the background
Gek
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>>6565509
He sees her as his rock, the reason to come back from a mission. The world may end, but as long as he has her he's happy. She has a sligthly maternal behavior towards him, taking care of his machines and him when as both often take a beating.
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>>6567647
>>6567684
In that case, I'll finish the pic
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>>6567676
take the final step

draw her milking him
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>>6567711
I don't really enjoy drawing full-blown pornography, teasing stuff is way more fun.
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>>6567676
C U C K E D

Just would like to point out, in that comic you posted before, you forgot to "color" in her ear- and tailtips in the third panel.
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>>6567720
Weaver's gonna love you
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>>6567720
b-but your art is so hot...
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>>6567578
She's an idiot but don't stoop to her level of arguing semantics. Let stupid people waste their time doing that
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>>6567503
It is ok.
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>>6567676
who the fcuk are youuuuuuu
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>>6567720

You might be surprised.Some of the full-blown porn around here is MAD comfy. Stick around and you might find a style you do like.
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>>6567720
>teasing stuff is way more fun
MY HERDMATE
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>>6567498
>>6567578
Anon, by law you can not consent to a felony being committed against you. That's settled precedent for hundreds of years.
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>>6567421
Like Lyla?

That sounds like a classic name.

>>6567509
>Madame Ly

I LOVE it!
>btw Inky, I totally imagined teh bouncer of the establishment are Lionesses and Hyenas

I could see this.
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>>6567762
see: Nameless Lewder
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>>6567676
>>6567684
Well duh, it's his bedroom
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>>6567762
Don't get me wrong, I love seeing other people draw it, but I just find drawing teasing stuff more fun. Not to say that I haven't drawn it myself, I've found my niche.

http://middry.tumblr.com/

Here's some of my other art and miscelaneous stuff, only one zootopia thing on there I think.
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>>6567818

Just draw more pack street shipping, and you'll fit RIGHT in.

Say, who would you ship Marty with, if anyone?
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>>6567828
I ship Marty and books
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>>6567839

Erotic books?
...Do you think Marty likes reading old-fashioned hardcover erotica? Or sappy romances?
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>>6567828
I ship Marty and Martha
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>>6567849

...Who?
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>>6567828
I don't ship marty with anyone. His sister though....
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>>6567846
Marty likes to curl up with classic literature and dissect them until he cries

That's how he gets off

Marty a cute
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>>6567861

But who DO you ship his sister with, anon?
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>>6567818
Could we at least talk you into the occasional lewd?
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>>6567784

It's decided then! Madame Lyla/Ly for short.

So in what ways is she motherly?
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>>6567866
Al, V doesn't understand or love him. She just loves the idea of a somber pred boyfriend. While Martina is filled with the purest of loves.
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>>6567273
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>>6567877

second.
but teases are good too.
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>>6567720
>I don't really enjoy drawing full-blown pornography, teasing stuff is way more fun.
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>>6567909
yesss
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So with the day of my birth coming to an end, I thought I'd share some of the gift art I received from some of you wonderful people.
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>>6567920
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>>6567897
This is a good fox
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>>6567933
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>>6567938
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>>6567785
NL you are missed.
>>6567802
DEEPEST LORE
>>6567897
Thanks for the request, nobbo.
[spoiler]did you base the vibrator off your dragon dildo?[/spoilerthatowrksonslothsonly]
>>6567909
>>6567911
Ah shit, here he is.
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>>6567621
>>6567621
I can dig it. I like both the true products of the 70's and the nostalgia!80's stuff, to be honest.

The Nostalgia!80's is just so shiny and neon, and personally i LOVE that asthetic, so i guess thats why i gravitate towards it more then the "Actual" 80's stuff, which, if im remembering my 80's movies , generally tended to be dark and gritty.. course, that could just be because i mostly watched those dark and gritty movies, ala Escape From New York, the aforementioned Blade Runner, and stuff like The Thing, T2 and Aliens.
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>>6567889
She likely treats her employees like family, at least her on the level ones. I'd argue she'd try to be the cool mom, but I think in truth she just uses her wisdom and experience to give advice when needed.

She's likely lenient and understanding in some circumstances too. Despite that she tries to run a legitimate business.

Mostly.
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>>6567944
You people have all been really, incredibly awesome, and I can't think of any other fandom I've been so proud to be a part of.
Thank you all.

...Oh, and also my closest RL friend recently learned about my zoosona and gave me this for my birthday.
The hoodie was hand-made.
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>>6567977
how uh

how much for a life-sized one
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>>6567954
no
I just drew a rectangle lmao

I got a nova
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>>6567911
Sup weavs. New Packstreet when? Also hows the holiday season treating you?
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>>6567996
Hmm... That's a tough question...

I suppose starting price would be kidnapping Mead and forcing him to adapt Stoutwell into a full-length comic.
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>>6568031
Cutie badger, you got some more junk mail.
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>>6568051
That's not junkmail! That's a precious baby girl!

Okay it's actually junkmail.
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>>6567897
s-sweet jesus
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>>6567897
fuggin' hell
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>>6566766
Going Top to bottom, right to left

>「ジャックはまだまだおこちゃまなのよ」
"Jack's still an immature person"
>全部個人的な妄想です。
This is entirely my own personal fantasy. (TN: This is a note from the author)
>女だろ、ちゃんとキレイにしろよ
Jack: "You're a woman, so you need to look really pretty."
>要するにジャック萌えを求めている。ジャックも何も設定ないけど。。。
In short, I'm looking for more moe Jack. But there's nothing firmly established about him...
>怒るとコワそう
She looks scary when she's mad
>まだまだ子供扱い
She still treats him like a child
>いーじゃん、別に~
Sky(e): It's fiine, there's no reason~"
>お茶目なネエさん
Mischievous older sister
>「オレ」とか言っちゃいそう
(TN: This is hard to convey since English doesn't have gender-specific greetings, but essentially it says Skye would refer to herself as "Ore" which is considered masculine)
>仕事中は来るなってあれほど。。。!!
Jack: "What would cause you to visit me on the job...!!"
>何か修理してほしいモンあればなおしにげるヨ
Sky(e): "I wanted to repair something, so if you have any problems I'll fix it for you!"
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>>6568073
I like this.
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>>6568073
>In short, I'm looking for more moe Jack. But there's nothing firmly established about him...
You heard him, folks. Make more Jack.
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>>6568103
Well he is a sweet bun boi
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>>6568051
>>6568062
B-b-but I already have one...

...Except with boy parts.
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>>6568073

BTW: The order in the bottom left goes:

Jack: "What would cause you to visit me on the job...!!"

Sky(e): It's fiine, there's no reason~"

Sky(e): "I wanted to repair something, so if you have any problems I'll fix it for you!"
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>>6567966
Oh believe you me I love the pagentry of the presented 80's as well, but it feels a bit clear cut to me.

Dark and grim 80's was edgy, but not for the sake of controversy, but because they knew it's what sold. There was an air of "hardcore" to almost everything, ranging from grit to downright insanity, and I love all of it. Escape From New York is another great example as you mentioned. Gotta also have love for the Mad Max series
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Unbridled degeneracy doodles
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>>6568120
Sorry sweetie Badger, once you accept some junk mail the spammers just go crazy mailing you more. I highly doubt this will be the last..
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>>6567889
well, I'd imagine as a non-abusive madame, she'd try to run a business first but not leaving her employees needs or wants out of the table
as for motherly feelings, maybe due to her lot in life, she never had pups of her own, she could take in fresh-of-the-boat migrants (for hyenas and the like), runaways or regular mammals who're trying to make a living
I mean, those previous pictures of her paint her more like that one aunt/ cougar neighbour who will tell you something's risky or dangerous, but won't make you it (and may entice you anyway)
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>>6568140
Fucking bless you.
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>>6568140

Such a talented, prolific arter.

With taste, too! I like them, can we keep them?
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>>6568113
Or a girl
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>>6568162
No that is a free range artist, would probably not flourish in a caged environment.
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>>6568180
Eh...
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>>6566912
That's...that means a lot for me to hear, dude

If you ever need a blowjob, hit me up
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>>6568140

oh my
that little remote of Charlie's seems to be


*particularly effective* on our favorite Cormo sheep judging from those leg shakes

i give him ten, fifteen seconds before he creams his pants before he can even touch himself.
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It was, after all, the transistor that launched the information age and enabled man to walk on the moon. It was Satchmo's trumpet that heralded the rise of jazz and of American music all over the world. And it was a broken block of concrete, covered in graffiti, from the Berlin Wall that announced the triumph of democracy over dictatorship. These are just some of the items that will be placed, along with scores of other objects representing the ideas and innovations that shaped the American century into our National Millennium Time Capsule.
Almost three years ago, when the White House Millennium Council began planning a celebration for the National Mall built around our theme, "To Honor the Past and Imagine the Future," we decided that an important way to capture this moment in time would be by filling a national time capsule -- filled not only with the symbols and achievements of the century just past, but with our hopes and dreams for the next.
We invited the thinkers and builders and creators of this century -- all the past recipients of our nation's highest honors in the arts and humanities, in science and technology, in citizenship and leadership -- as well as the thinkers and builders and creators of the future -- the students who are taught by the state Teachers of the Year across America. We asked them all to help us fill this time capsule, and their responses have been overwhelming.
Teachers and students nominated computers, while scientists nominated the transistors that made them possible. Bruce Penniman's (sp) English class in Amherst, Massachusetts, sent a highlighted copy of Ralph Ellison's "The Invisible Man," while novelist Philip Roth recommended works by William Faulkner and Saul Bellow. June Moore's (sp) second grade class in Laramie, Wyoming, selected the sport of baseball, while playwright August Wilson suggested a recording by Bessie Smith.
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that teachers will be hired to reduce class size.
Teaching is an honorable profession, and I feel a great deal of pride and responsibility in joining the ranks. I deeply appreciate your recognizing its profound significance and fighting for the important resources that teachers need.
I thank you. My kids thank you. And we ask that you continue to increase the federal investment in learning.
Thank you.
At this time, it is now my great pleasure to introduce the first lady of the United States, Rodham .
(APPLAUSE)
H. : Well, Krystal, you ended with a lot of thank yous, but I'd like to thank you for being a teacher and for bringing your commitment to teaching and to the children who are entrusted to you to this room today, and speaking so eloquently on behalf of your profession and the students that you teach.
I'm delighted to be here with Senator Dorgan and Senator Daschle and Senators Murray and Harkin and Kennedy and Kerry to speak up on behalf of the great need we face in our country of lowering classroom size and putting qualified professionally trained teachers into our classrooms on behalf of our children.
You know, in poll after poll, the American people have spoken with one voice. Education is America's top priority. We know from parents and teachers and students that all of us want safe schools. We want modern schools that are wired so our children can be part of the information age. We want smaller classes. We want more after school programs. And we want to, just in general, make sure that our public schools are equipped well to do the job that our children need.
Now, the president and the administration have been listening to the American people, and they presented Congress with a plan to do just what the American people want in prioritizing the needs of education. And yet the Republican leadership and the Republicans in Congress denied thousands of children the ch burban areas that are just absolutely cramped.
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When it came to hopes for the future, the young people and adults spoke as one: world peace, cures for cancer and AIDS, an end to hunger and racism. I was also impressed by how children were determined to shape the future for themselves. "Helping others is at the very top of my list of careers," wrote a student from Nevada, while another seven-year-old from Idaho wrote, "I wish that all children can have a loving family. I wish someday I will help the world."
In a few minutes, we will invite some of these students and leading citizens to share their nominations for the time capsule.
Now, the prototype is sitting right there. It was created by Pentagram Design, Inc., and the time capsule will be made of three metals -- steel for the industrial age, copper for the information age, and titanium for the age to come.
As you can see, it is molded in the shape of a waving American flag, symbolizing our optimistic country that is always in motion, always moving forward, always pushing back the frontiers of technology and progress, of tolerance and justice.
This prototype will go on display in the National Museum of American History. And at the end of the year, after all of the items have been received and selected, the actual time capsule will be exhibited and sealed at the National Archives, where it will remain until it is opened 100 years from today.
Throughout the weekend, the president and I invite you to visit the capital and to enjoy the various programs at the Smithsonian, from symposia on great Americans of the past and present -- Thomas Jefferson, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and B.B. King -- to sessions pondering the future of American taste and the future of American democracy. And we invite you to take your children to the story circle at the National Museum of American History. And of course, you are all invited to come to the Lincoln Memorial
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25, 35, 38, 40 children, and we cannot expect children to learn and teachers to teach in that kind of environment.
We've also denied children the chance to participate in safe and enriching programs after school. This year 400,000 children were able to attend after-school activities supported by 21st century community learning-center grants. But twice as many children still have no safe place to go when they get out of school. I believe we need more after-school programs, and that's what the American people are asking for as well.
The president's budget would have tripled support for after- school programs, but again, we don't have that kind of response from the Republican leadership and the Republicans in Congress. In fact, Congress, under their leadership of the Republicans, have denied hundreds of schools the resources that they need. Today, just half the schools that need help are actually getting the extra help that they require for preparing some of our most disadvantaged children.
I hope that through efforts like this, but through the words of teachers like Krystal, particularly, we will see finally the kind of action that the president and the Democrats in Congress have been requesting.
And I particularly hope that after five years of struggling for it, we will begin to make movement on behalf of constructing and modernizing our schools.
You know, the General Accounting Office has estimated that our schools are in desperate need of more than $112 ion in repairs and construction. But the Republican leadership and the Republicans in Congress continues to ignore the president's proposal for the kinds of help that states and districts need: additional tax relief that will enable them to modernize schools which is so desperately required.
So I would call on Congress to stop delaying and pass a school construction measure.
And one of those people who has been on the front lines advocating on behalf of reducing class
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But by no means will the celebration end at the stroke of midnight tonight. Throughout this millennial year, the White House Millennium Council will lead even more efforts to honor the past and imagine the future. We will continue to recruit more citizens to work together to save America's treasures, whether it's the home of a great American, such as Harriet Tubman, or letters from a soldier in wartime, or a family scrapbook that may just be sitting in the attic somewhere. We will continue to open new millennium trails in our most scenic parks and historic sites. And through the Millennium Green Program, we hope to inspire every single American to plant a tree for future generations to enjoy. And through the National Endowment for the Humanities project My History Is America's History, we hope to help every child in America value their own family histories and honor our nation's immigrant past and present.
This time capsule is one of our gifts to the future, a gift that will convey to our great-grandchildren and their children what it was like and what we were thinking at the end of the 20th century.
In many ways, what our descendants find inside this capsule can be viewed not merely as a relic of the past, but as this generation's promise to the future. There will be a photo of Rosa Parks in the days after that fateful bus ride, to serve to remind us not only of her courage, but of our solemn pledge to move forward in the long march toward justice and to live even closer to our ideals of freedom and equality.
The model of the DNA double helix will be placed in the capsule, not just as a symbol of one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all history, but of our commitment to completing the human genome project, cracking the code of life and putting it to work for the good of humanity.
And the film of Neil Armstrong's walk on the Moon must also be our pledge to keep America the world's leading space-faring nation.
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APPLAUSE)
MURRAY: Well, thank you very much. I'm very honored to be here with the first lady. I hope you do decide to run for the Senate. We have been able to put education on the national agenda; with you here, it will become the national agenda.
It is really an honor to be here with a teacher who is one of the teachers that is in a classroom today because of the dollars we put in the budget to reduce class size last year. She is able to do the job we want her to do as a teacher, but more importantly, the students in her classroom are going to have the best education possible.
She is why we are here today, along with a number of other teachers in our audience who also have been hired this year and have class sizes that are workable because of the work we did last year.
We're here today to send the message that smaller class sizes help to restore discipline to the classroom and allow our children to learn the basics, and we need to keep that commitment in this budget and beyond so that those kids can get the education they deserve.
I can tell you, as a former parent and a teacher, that reducing class sizes works. But don't just take our word for it. National studies show that reducing class size in the early grades makes more -- allows more kids to graduate, they have higher grade-point averages, and they are more inclined to pursue higher education. It works. We need a national commitment to keep it going.
I was able to visit a classroom just a few weeks ago in Tacoma, where they have used our class-size money to reduce the classes -- the class sizes in first grades.
MURRAY: I was in a first grade classroom with a teacher with 15 students, and she was so elated. She said to me that this is the first year I will be able to guarantee at the end of the year that every single one of my students will be able to read. I've never been able to do that before. That's th as a former school board member that
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Hey Joker! How goes it?
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Ms. RODHAM : But our celebration didn't just begin at the stroke of midnight, nor will it end today. Two years ago, the president and I launched the White House Millennium Project to inspire all Americans to reflect on where we have been as a nation, who we are, and what we want to be, a project to honor the past and imagine the future. I've traveled all across our country, encouraging citizens and communities to think of the gifts that America can give to the future, whether it's saving our historic treasures, such as the Declaration of Independence, or Thomas Edison's invention factory, or the Pueblos of the American Southwest, opening trails and planting millions of trees for future generations to enjoy, or teaching our school children to value their own families and America's immigrant past. The president and I invite you to join these and so many other efforts to extend our celebration far into the new year and the new century.
Pres. : What is perhaps most remarkable about last night's celebration is the way it was shared all around the world. Millions of Americans and ions of others across the globe watched on television as midnight broke first in Asia, then in Europe, then Africa, South America, finally here in North America. That people all over the planet could experience the same events at the same time would have been impossible for anyone to imagine a thousand years ago--even 100. Yet the growing interconnectedness of the world today, thanks to a global economy and technologies like the Internet, is more than just a mark of how far we've come. It's the key to understanding where we're going and what we must do in the new millennium. It's clear that our fate in America increasingly will be tied to the fate of other nations and other people around the world. We must have prosperous partners to trade w nges that know no borders, from terrorism to environmental destruction. To advance ot just by our exertions abroad, but
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The stark truth is that you cannot deal with America's problem of education. There aren't enough alternative schools. There aren't enough places to put people with vouchers. There aren't enough parochial schools, there aren't enough private schools. The only way to deal with the problem of America's education system is to fix the public school system and to support it. And the fact is that it's not just a question of 100,000 teachers. We've heard the statistics of the need for 10 -- over the next 10 years, for two million. Five million of them needed in the next five years.
Unfortunately, because of the lack of support, lack of mentoring, lack of ongoing professional education, lack of adequate class size, we lose 30 to 40 percent of our new teachers within the first three to four years.
So, if we're going to make real all the impassioned speeches on the floor of the Senate about transfer of values to our children, about the next generation of citizens, about a democracy that has the ability to manage all this information that comes at us in the modern age; if we're going to do all these things and have a workforce that can grow our businesses and grow our tax base, we have only one choice, and that is to invest in our children.
It's inexcusable that the Republicans -- I mean you can find an excuse maybe they can hide behind a reason to not pass a test ban treaty. They can hide behind a reason, the First Amendment, not to pass campaign finance reform. But there's nowhere to hide and there's no rational explanation to give the American people for not guaranteeing that the children of this country have the opportunity to learn and that teachers have the opportunity to teach to the standards that we've put into place.
KERRY: And that's what this fight is about. And we D ch, kids have after-school programs, they're not turned out into homes that have no parents in the afternoon until late in the ev uch. Thank you very much, John Kerry.
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Do I matter?

Not trying to sound dismal. Just feeling blue. Figure this is the best time to ask.
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>>6568141
Oh. Well if that's the case...
I suppose Beaver Jr. could use a sibling.

I'm curious what Inky thinks about these skunks of hers accumulating in my household.
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>>6568140

well, the general consensus in the discord seems to be 'damn, who's this?' and 'hope they stick around'

we seem to like yo,u mysterious artist.
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RODHAM : We're going to talk about our house this morning, which we are very happy about being in and being New Yorkers, and we'll leave that to another time.
QUESTION: Mr. President, are you going to Lazard Freres?
WILLIAM J. , PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No. No, I keep reading all these things. I've not given very much thought to this. I'm going to work very hard on finishing my library and center, and I'm going to devote all my attention being president. I've got a lot -- a big agenda this year.
We're going back now, and I have to go back to Shepherdstown this afternoon. But I've had no discussions with anybody about that kind of move. And I was amazed to see that in the paper. No one's even suggested that.
QUESTION: Mr. President, last night the vice president debates said the Hill asked military commanders about their feelings on gays serving in the military before appointing people to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Is this litmus test the way it should work?
: Well, I think the real problem is -- let me go back to what happened, because as you know my view was, and I will restate my view, the Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits homosexual contacts. So my view was if someone was willing to take the pledge to observe the Uniform Code of Military Justice, they shouldn't have to lie about being gay and being in the military.
Then let me remind you what happened. The Congress voted by a veto-proof majority against that position. So that's how we got to "don't ask, don't tell." My focus has been on trying to make the policy work the way the military commanders said it would work back in 1993, which it has not been doing. No one disputes that.
To Secretary Cohen's credit, back in August he announced some new guidelines which have now been implemented for training and for implementation, which I think will significantly improve the present situation over the next few months.
Now, the vice president and Senator Bradley say they want to g
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the president's veto of this if it does not include the class size money, because it is the right thing to do not only for today, but for 12 years from now when those first graders graduate and become economic partners with all of us in this great country.
It is my honor to introduce to you a leader in this battle, the ranking member on the Appropriations Committee, Senator Tom Harkin, whose been at the table day after day after day insisting that class size reduction remain in the so that we can do the right thing for all of our children. Senator Tom Harkin.
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HARKIN: Thank you, Senator Murray. First of all, I want to thank Senator -- I mean -- the first lady for being here...
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... it has a nice ring to it, though, I think -- for her great leadership in this area, and I look forward to working with her in the future on the issue of education and many other things. I want to thank Senator Daschle, our Democratic leader, for making education the number one issue here in the United States Senate. Were it not for Senator Daschle, it truly would have been put on the back burner.
I again also want to thank the person who has worked the longest, who has fought the hardest, and led us through all these battles for so many years, Senator Kennedy. He truly is our leader on the issue of education; to Senator Dorgan and Senator Murray and Senator Kerry also -- all of our -- all of those who have fought so hard to not only increase the funding for education, but to focus on the true needs of our schools.
Since Jonathan Kozol wrote his landmark book, "Savage Inequalities," the gap has not narrowed. In fact, it has been getting worse. The General Account inadequate. They estimate it will cost $112 ion to upgrade existing public schools just to good condition. Forty-six percent of our schools lack adequate electrical wiring to hook up to the Internet. Enrollment in elementary and secondary schools is at an all-time high
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>>6568254

please. Those are skunkets.

They're barely a skunk to begin with.
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... and wisdom still influence us all.
I want to thank Secretary Summers for being here. I think when the history of the last 10 years is written, the role that Secretary Summers and his predecessors, Secretary Rubin and Secretary Benson, played in bringing the Treasury Department into the full agenda of opportunity is one that will be marked as extraordinarily important.
And Secretary Summers has gone places where other treasury secretaries have not gone before and has taken up the battle for equal access to capital and opportunity.
: And...
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And I want to thank Bruce Gordon for his eloquence and his provocative reminder that there is more to be done.
We come to this meeting with a lot of good news, and we've heard quite a bit of that from both Secretary Summers and from Mr. Gordon. But we also know that we would not be meeting here if we did not have work to do, that the lack of equal opportunity for access to capital and for jobs is one of the unfinished pieces of business from the last century that we carry with us into this new one.
One of the lines that is not often quoted from Dr. King's memorable speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial is the following. He said, "We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity in this nation." Those vaults of opportunity are slowly but surely being pried open, but they need to open much faster, if we are to keep faith...
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... with the talents and the skills of Americans from every walk of life.
: Those vaults of opportunity are fuller than ever. But their prizes are not reaching all who need them
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and will continue to grow over the next 10 years, making it necessary for the United States to build an additional 6,000 schools.
And the American Society of Civil Engineers reports that public schools are in worse condition than any other sector of our national infrastructure. We send a sorry message to our children when the nicest things they see are shopping malls, sports arenas, and movie theaters, and the most run-down place they see is their public school.
In 1980, the federal share of the education dollar that went to elementary and secondary education in the United States was just about 12 percent -- 1980. In 1999, going into the new millennium -- the new century -- the federal share of elementary and secondary education is now down to about seven percent. We're going in the wrong direction. We can and we must do better. We must rebuild and modernize our nation's crumbling schools. As we reduce class size, get teacher training, qualifications up, we have to rebuild and modernize our schools.
HARKIN: And those schools mainly are in our poorer areas. In the final days of this session, we'll be working to force the Republican leadership to keep their promise first to reduce class size. But we must also redouble our efforts to secure funds for school modernization. The president's budget provides tax credits to finance $25 ion in new construction. These tax credits should make it possible to build up to 6,000 new schools when that money is leveraged.
We need to supplement, however, these tax credits with direct grants for the nation's neediest school districts. Some school districts are even too poor to float a bond issue. So this comprehensive two-prong approach, one on the tax credit side and the bond issue that the president's pushing, the other one to give direct grants to schools that we have pending legislation here to do, is necessary ue of mine who has worked very hard on some innovative new approache Kerry of Massachusetts.
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So, I hope that all of us gathered here today and through the rest of this conference will work to keep faith with Dr. King's words and do all that we can in the public and private and philanthropic sectors to make sure those vaults of opportunity are opened as wide as possible.
I want to thank Reverend Jackson and all who work with him on this Wall Street project for what you are doing not only to open the vaults but to remind us that every one of us has an obligation and a responsibility in the continuing journey of America to extend opportunity, to extend the winners' circle, so that every American feels that his or her place is in the forefront of taking the American dream for themselves.
We have to be breaking down those barriers that still keep us from working together and building bridges, barriers between races and until recently, between Wall Street and the great untapped markets of America.
Yesterday, I was in upstate New York. I started in Rochester, I drove to the county seat of a small county, a town called Lyons in Wayne County. And then, I went on to Geneva, where I spoke to several thousand college students and community citizens.
I started by visiting a supermarket that had not been there very long because it was in an under-served neighborhood in Rochester.
: But because of government policies, committed business leaders, visionary public leadership, that supermarket is now there, employing hundreds of people, doing business with dozens and dozens of other businesses and serving as a stark rebuke to anyone who believes there are not markets yet to be tapped right here in our own country.
And if one...
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... if one were to go to many of the board rooms in many of the great businesses that call this city their headquarters, there would still be incredulity at the idea that you could make a profit as this chain of supermarkets in these under-serve rmarket. I must have teeth they have. Poor Am
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If I'm a school board member or somebody trying to allocate money at the local level, I'm going to ask myself: Well, what are they going to do to me next year? If you look at the history of block grants, you're going to guess, probably rightly, that that block grant will be cut. If you're a school board member trying to hire teachers, you are not going to hire a teacher knowing that that money is going to be taken away in a year. That's one answer and a very important one.
But secondly, we know that reducing class size makes a difference for the education of our young children, whether it's teaching them the basics, reducing discipline in a world where we're concerned about violence, and making sure that our children stay in school and go on to get a higher education. We know that that is a commitment that we need to make at the federal level, state level, and local level. And we at the federal level have to be part of that partnership to make it happen.
MURRAY: That's the commitment we have. We agree with our Republican colleagues that our school districts need more resources. We agree that they need more money. But we're not going to take it away from the commitment we have made on this important effort to reduce class sizes.
QUESTION: Senator Harkin, I wondered, what do you think of the proposal for an across-the-board cut as a way to end these negotiations? They impact on education. It's about $500 million it looks like of a cut.
HARKIN: Well, that's sort of the brainless way of doing things. It's -- I hope that we don't have to resort to that. I find it unacceptable to have those across-the-board cuts. It just would cut some of our basic programs that we have been trying to get funds up for.
The president's budget had the necessary offsets. I have also come up with some offsets of my own that would fully cover these, but the Republicans seem intent on not having those offsets and
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Please stay.
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travels that we really have three divides that we have to bridge in order to provide opportunity as fully as possible. We have a capital divide, we have an education divide and we have a digital divide, which Bruce talked about so well.
If we add those divides up, we see what our challenges are: How do we get capital where it needs to be? How do we make sure our education systems are working for all Americans? How do we provide access to all the new information technology?
If we take on those three challenges, then we will bridge the opportunity divide that still exists in America.
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: And the good news is, we know what works. It's not as though we have no idea how to bridge the opportunity divide. There are many models around New York and America that can be pointed to with great pride. Bruce and Percy and Jesse and Larry mentioned and referred to some. The trick is whether we summon the political will and leadership, the public investment and leadership, the private investment and leadership in order to bridge these divides.
I've met many New Yorkers in the last six months who have very good ideas about what to do in their own communities in order to further their independence and self-sufficiency, but they need help, they need investment and they need leadership.
Last summer and fall, Reverend Jackson joined the president on a New Markets tour across America to shine a spotlight and bring new investments to communities left behind in good times -- from Newark to Watts to the Pine Ridge Reservation. And in the months since then, businesses that were watching and listening have been taking advantage of some of these new opportunities.
: New jobs have been created. New capital has found its way to create economic opportunity in those long-forgotten places.
In this era of unprecedented prosperity, we do have a chance to build on what has been done the number eight million jobs was put out,
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QUESTION: Yes, Senator Daschle, on another subject, could you define the difference between racial bias and racism?
DASCHLE: I'm sorry?
QUESTION: Define the difference between minority bias and racism?
DASCHLE: Define the difference between minority bias and racism. Well, racism I think is a -- we all recognize racism in many occasions. It's a hatred. It's a disease. It's a sickness that has to be rid from our society. I think lack of sensitivity to minorities and to race sometimes is far more pervasive and maybe just as problematic in some cases, but clearly ought to be something we attempt to address each and every time the situation occurs.
We have seen a pattern of a lack of insensitivity that creates the perception that those who find themselves in the minority, whether it's race, women -- an array of different options -- find greater difficulty, greater challenge and less opportunity. We want to rid ourselves of that.
We as members of Congress have made progress in the last several decades in doing just that. My colleagues here and others have made a great effort to rid ourselves not only of racism, but of the lack of opportunity that exists today for minorities. I hope we can continue to do that. I believe in many cases in recent weeks the perception has been created by some of our Republican colleagues that that lack of sensitivity is still a serious problem in the United States Senate.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) in general or the leadership -- who are you blaming for it?
DASCHLE: I'm not blaming anybody. I'm simply saying that a serious problem exists with regard to the perception that when it comes to opportunities for Hispanic Americans; opportunities for African Americans -- that there appears to be a double standard. It takes longer for an African American or Hispanic American nomin cial modern anybody. I'm simply pointing out that ublicans or Democrats, is reducing class size. Today,
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That's one of the reasons we fought so hard to preserve the Community Reinvestment Act. The CRA...
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The CRA was seen by some as a social engineering tool that had no place in the marketplace. But we know that the CRA has helped families buy new homes, helped businesses hire more workers and promoted economic growth in so many communities. It is an important tool to expand on the progress that we have made and hope to make. And it is a valuable tool that I will stand firmly beside Reverend Jackson and Secretary Summers and others always to protect, because without that kind of public-private partnership, we will not maximize our opportunity and the chance to bring more people into this economy.
I strongly support the proposal that was announced today, that Secretary Summers spoke about, to expand the earned income tax credit to help more married couples and families who are raising two or more children. No one who works full-time in America should have to raise a family in poverty. We ended...
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We ended welfare in large measure because we wanted to reward work.
: Now we have to make work pay, and full-time work should provide a decent living wage that lifts a family out of poverty. And...
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And there is a role, certainly, for earned income tax credit, for the minimum wage and other tools of government. But the greatest opportunity lies in the private sector -- to go into those markets that have been written off in the past and to bring the know-how and technical assistance that only the private sector can provide.
When I was speaking with the store manager at that supermarket in Rochester, I was struck time and again by how enthusiastic he was for the new business that he had helped to create, and how now there were five such supermarkets and more on the drawing boards. It was not so
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decisions on the issues that have been presented by Krystal, the first lady, and others here today. And Tom Harkin has been fighting and making that fight. We wish him well when he leaves here today.
We thank John Kerry, who's been a valued ally in raising the whole questions of education and provided enormous creativity in finding new ways to meet that challenge.
And it's a pleasure to be with Byron Dorgan, who is our floor manager and done such a job.
And to be especially glad to be here with Krystal, and listening to her words and heeding those words. We want you to know, Krystal, the best way we can thank you is by heeding those words and fighting on these education issues.
Very simple and fundamental question, and that is: Are we going to carry forward what teachers and parents want -- teachers and parents want -- and that is the smaller class size.
And a year ago, the Congress of the United States made a commitment to families all across this nation that we were going to have smaller class size, and that was with the leadership of Senator Murray. It's the Murray amendment: smaller class size. And the Congress went on record and said yes, we are going to do that. And the question is in these final weeks: Are we going to be the Congress that breaks our word to these families? Are we going to become the anti-education Congress? It is as simple and plain as that.
Money can't solve all the problems in education, but it's a reflection of the nation's priorities in education. And it's not only important to have the resource but to commit the resources. And the question now that is before the Congress in these last days is will we continue that commitment that has placed 30,000 teachers in classrooms across the country?
We have seen what the action of Republican leadership has been in the House of Representatives: It's nd lead that effort. That is what ed that you could b
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>>6568254
I don't mind it. As long as they're going to loving homes.

(Besides the girl was a gag baby of Hugh's left on Percy's doorstep as junkmail.)
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>>6568254
Well you're probably a better father than their biological duna donor.
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>>6568130
Yea, Mad Max was amazing. And I completely agree that the "hardcore" feel was there. The products of the 80's seem like They always featured the heroes as "hard boiled" so to speak. They did what needed to be done with no grandstanding and crap. Robocop was grittier then i remembered, since i recently watched it. Terminator was grim and grimey and the Running Man was also schlocky and crazy fun.
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: That supermarket was there because of the empowerment zone and enterprise community legislation that provided just that extra push that a business needed -- that the government would stand behind their risk-taking while they determined how to make a profit and build a market.
Tomorrow the president will be introducing even more proposals to boost the New Markets Initiative, and there is one aspect of that that I would like to discuss; he will certainly be making all of the other announcements here in New York.
But one that is particularly important to me and that I've been involved in now for more than 15 years is called microenterprise, an idea that started in very poor places -- Bangladesh and India -- where there was no collateral for any kind of credit, yet people worked hard 12, 18 hours a day bringing in crops, taking goods to market. They had the collateral of their own commitment to hard work. And then that was thought to be enough to give them small loans so that they could create small businesses to further their families' fortunes.
I first heard about microenterprise when I heard about the Gramine (ph) Bank in Bangladesh and a man named Mohamed Unis (ph), a United States-trained economist who returned home to Bangladesh and determined that there was no way for that poor country ever to provide economic opportunity without access to capital, and went about the business of starting a bank that would do just that.
I'd heard about how the South Shore Bank in Chicago had taken those ideas and transplanted them to America, providing modest-sized loans primarily to low-income women, who would have never qualified for a commercial loan.
When I heard about it, I knew that that was an idea that could change lives throughout America, and particularly in Arkansas, where and I were committed to doing all we could to bring economic opportunity to areas that had long been left out of the mainstream of America's economy.
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>>6568262
That reminds me; I gotta shop around for some beds and mattresses for the little scamps before the couch gets too crowded for them.
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Now no one understands or appreciates the accomplishments of the pharmaceutical industry more than I do. Every day I see lives literally saved and people's health dramatically improved. But nothing is more frustrating than trying to explain how pharmaceuticals are priced in this country.
When you try and talk to a person and tell them the details about the complex system of multiple discounts and rebates and cost-shifting to HMOs, where discounts are given to HMOs and price increases are passed on to the private sector, people -- people have a hard time understanding it.
The truth is, none of it makes sense. And after a minute or two, invariably people look at you with a funny look, they scratch their head and they say: That's just crazy.
But the reality is, it is crazy. It's a fact that virtually every one gets cheaper prices than community pharmacies and the patients they serve. Survey after survey has demonstrated that special pricing arrangements for seniors in this country to pay more than just about every one else in the world.
And pharmacists like myself, both chain and independent, are faced with the task of explaining that on a day-to-day basis, how this crazy system works and why they are sometimes forced between buying food, paying their rent, or purchasing their prescriptions.
DILLON (ph): These aren't luxuries or options we're talking about, but they are necessities required for people to maintain their health.
I can explain the cost of research and development, I can explain all the good that the pharmaceutical industry has accomplished, but I can't explain why their prescriptions cost so much.
I can't explain why a senior citizen like my 85-year-old mother, who struggled all her life to raise six children and lives on an limited income, is forced to pay two or three times as much as an HMO or a ion dollar insurance company, or even worse, twice which she would pay n't make any sense to me. ut I do believe that when th of those times.
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>>6568253
You matter to me! thought you're probably not a cc it doesn't matter! I bet you were one of those lovely anons that always has something nice to say about me when I' feeling blue as well! Without you a precious piece of the comf will be lost.
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Since 1993, we have built a strong record of support and investment in micro lending in the administration. We've tripled America's investment in community development banks and have established the presidential awards in micro-enterprise excellence and provided technical assistance.
: I believe we can build on that progress. I would like to double the number of micro entrepreneurs in our communities. And we can do that by strengthening the SBA's micro loan program and the new PRIME Act, which extends training and credit to people with little income or credit but good ideas for business and the willingness to put in a lot of sweat equity.
I will certainly work to support the SBA's very successful one- stop capital shops which provide finance and micro-enterprise training in distressed communities to even more under-served areas, particularly rural communities.
Now, it is clear that micro-credit is not the only solution. But it is a small and important part of the overall strategy to bridge the opportunity divide. If we have a New Markets Initiative that opens up new markets, we have to recognize that that is more than just economics and money that we're talking about. It is restoring confidence in communities where it has basically disappeared. It is giving citizens a chance to open up their first savings accounts. Instead of going to cash checkers with their EITC checks, they can go to a real bank and cash it and not pay the exorbitant fees that eat into the little income that they have. It is watching a mother with pride get dressed for work once again, and seeing abandoned streets and blocks gleam with new businesses like I saw yesterday.
I finished my day yesterday at Hobart (ph) and William Smith colleges where about 2,000 young people and maybe another thousand...
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... a lot of good.
And I thank all of you for being committed to what Reverend Jackson calls America's freedom segregati
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Thanks to the leadership of Dick Gephardt, David Bonior, Tom Allen, Jim Turner, members from the Democratic caucus from all parts of the country, and the first lady, we're going to fight to pass legislation to stop discrimination in pricing against seniors and to cover what is a very important basic health need for all of the Medicare population.
We've got to fight to break the stranglehold the drug companies have on the Republican leadership. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, but yet the Republican leadership, as they did on HMOs, Patients' of Rights, and they're doing now on pharmaceutical coverage, won't let their members vote with us to stop the drug companies from gouging seniors.
We're battling to have prescription drug legislation debated now, and if we have to, we'll continue this fight next year, because we're not going to quit until there's an end to discriminatory pricing and there's coverage for all seniors that need it.
I'm pleased now to turn over this platform to Ed Dillon (ph) of Grubb's Pharmacy, a pharmacist who deals with these issues every single day.
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And he's here to share his experiences with us.
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Mr. Dillon.
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ED DILLON (PH), PHARMACIST: That's a great welcome. I hope I don't disappoint anyone.
(LAU to here's coverage for all seniors that need it.
I'm pleased now to turn over this platform to Ed Dillon (ph) of Grubb's Pharmacy, a pharmacist who deals with these issues every single day.
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And he's here to share his experiences with us.
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Mr. Dillon.
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ED DILLON (PH), PHARMACIST: That's a great welcome. I hope I don't disappoint anyone.
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(UNKNOWN): Tell the truth.
DILLON (PH): I do want to thank Democratic Leader Gephardt, the first lady, Ms. , and Chairman Waxman for this opportunity.
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>>6568303
Regardless of who I am, I really needed to hear that.

Thank you fellow anon. Thank you so much.
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the South Shore Bank, starting the loan funds in something called the "good faith fund," and we saw that what worked far away from the shores of our own country could indeed work here at home.
Many low-income people who had skills and talents were able to turn them in to jobs and even small businesses that employed others because they had access to capital. People began to free themselves from welfare. They saw a future where before they never had.
I know that many people are still unaware of micro-enterprise, don't know what it can do in the lives of Americans, and that many commercial enterprises, particularly commercial banks, are still reluctant to be involved. And yet in every program of micro-credit that I am personally aware of, the loan repayment rate is more than 95 percent. That is...
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That is a return that most commercial banks certainly could not claim. And it is credit that is extended to the poorest of the poor, but in a way that enables and empowers them to not only make a profit but to pass on that kind of economic awareness to their neighbors, therefore creating a larger and larger market.
I want to thank some of America's commercial banks that are beginning to be involved in micro-enterprise, but principally abroad, working in Northern Ireland, working in India. We need to bring those ideas that work right here to America.
Since 1993, we have built a strong record of support and investment in micro lending in the administration. We've tripled America's investment in community development banks and have established the presidential awards in micro-enterprise
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All of these members, plus the others who stand here today, have made a commitment to doing everything we possibly can to ensure that our seniors have the medical coverage and the prescription drugs that they need to stay healthy and to have the quality of life that we want our older men and women to have.
And we come together today for a very simple reason: Millions of older Americans cannot afford the prescription drugs they need to live their lives in dignity.
Now there are many groups represented in the audience: The National Council of Senior Citizens; the Older Women's League, known as OWL, very wise; the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare; the National Community Pharmacists Association; and many others that have joined with the Democrats in Congress to make as clear as we can that this is an issue that is not going away, that it is an issue that will be with us this year and next year.
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And that's because the facts are so compelling. More than two- thirds of all Medicare beneficiaries have no coverage or inadequate Medigap coverage. This is not just a problem for low-income beneficiaries. Over half of Medicare beneficiaries without drug coverage have incomes greater than 150 percent of the poverty level.
And the problem is getting worse. The number of firms offering health insurance for retirees have dropped 25 percent over the past four years. And Medigap premiums -- which increase with age -- have been rising at double-digit rates.
: Now the drug industry can buy all the ads they want to provide cover for their inaction, but the one thing their ads cannot deny is that the problem is real and the time for action is now.
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I wish these companies running the ads would respond to the kind of letters that I receive and the president receives and I know every member of Cong couple in Georgia who said their prescripti nt up, it wouldn't come close to the fo
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carrying that announcement, of course, live.
Standing there at her side, where she has been for him throughout his political career, of course, will be President , though it's not exactly clear what role Mr. will play in the ceremony. Generally, the honor of introducing the candidate goes to the spouse or to the senior politician present and, of course, the president is both. But there are whisperings that because of lingering concerns over Mrs. 's status as an outsider still in the state of New York that perhaps a New York politician will be tapped for that duty.
Afterwards, the s plan to begin attending some campaign events and there is also a great deal of interest and it's somewhat of a mystery as to what role the president will play in the first lady's campaign.
Earlier this week, White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart said that the president is going to "do whatever is going to be effective for her campaign" and that that would be determined as the campaign unfolds.
This, of course, will also be a very big weekend for the man who is expected to be the first lady's challenger for the New York Senate seat, Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York. Not one to be ignored, he is going to be appearing on five Sunday morning news talk shows, count them, five. At that point we are expected to hear more about charges that came out this week that the first lady may not have adequately reimbursed taxpayers for campaign trips that she made on government aircraft. Just a taste, perhaps, of the nasty campaign to come.
So what will the White House do now with the mostly absent first lady? Press Secretary Joe Lockhart again says that the White House will manage. The first lady said that she's going to try to be here for special White House dinners, formal events with visiting dignitaries and Lockhart has said operations here won't be impacted. Where they need to fill in, they will.
Reporting live at the White House, I'm Kathleen Koch.
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You know, the Republican-led Congress, as Dick said, can pass a huge tax scheme that Americans don't want and that would undermine our economy, but for some reason, they put off even having a debate over prescription drug cost and coverage. Providing access to affordable prescription drugs should not be a Democratic or Republican issue. This is an American issue. And...
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... I don't know what the Republican leadership is afraid of. The time for waiting has ended and the time for debating has come. And I know that if we follow the lead of the Democrats gathered here today, we will succeed in meeting this challenge, and we cannot afford to fail.
: Now, we will not fail in obtaining this kind of support for older Americans because we have the commitment of leaders like Henry Waxman. Now, he has given himself to issues like this for decades. He's won so many legislative victories because he's never given up fighting for the people he was elected to serve. And as long as we follow his lead in representing the people's real interests, and not the special interests, we cannot go wrong and neither can the American people.
It's now my honor and pleasure to introduce a great leader, Congressman Henry Waxman.
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WAXMAN: Thank you very much, Mrs. .
It's a great honor and an extraordinary help to have the first lady come here and speak about this important issue. We all know her as a champion for health care for seniors and all Americans. She brings great knowledge and passion to this fight. And with her leading the way, I hope we don't have to wait until you get into the Senate to pass this . But if necessary, we will have her fighting for us and for this legislation.
For too long, our nation's most vulnerable citizens have faced intolerable price discriminations when it comes to pharmaceuticals. The sad reality is that those in greatest need of life-saving medicines are often those wh
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SEN. CHRISTOPHER DODD (D), CONNECTICUT: When I want to get the child care numbers improved in the White House's budget I don't call the president, I don't call the Office of Management and Budget, I don't call the chief of staff, I call the first lady.
WALLACE: Most of Mrs. 's policy efforts focused on children, including kids waiting to be adopted.
: Foster care should never be a permanent solution.
WALLACE: She lobbied Congress to increase incentives for adoption. Her husband signed it into law. She also convened two White House conferences, one on child care, the other on brain development in early childhood. Matthew Melmed worked with Mrs. on programs for children under four.
MATTHEW MELMED, ZERO TO THREE: She had a very pragmatic approach about what was the art of the possible and how could we try to move that forward. And I believe that that's how she was able to accomplish as much as she has been able to accomplish.
WALLACE: Mrs. also traveled to more countries than any other first lady, focusing attention on women's health in Pakistan, promoting women's rights in China and advocating micro loans in South Africa. Aides say the first lady's policy achievements are an untold story.
LISA MUSCATINE, PRESS SECRETARY TO : I think that after '94 a lot of people just assumed that because health care didn't go quite the way she wanted it to, that was going to be the end of her involvement and quite the opposite has been true.
WALLACE (on camera): And if the first lady makes her way to the Senate, her aides say the venue might change but her focus on children and families will not.
Kelly Wallace, CNN, the White House.
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O'BRIEN: CNN is planning live coverage of Mrs. 's announcement. It begins tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. Eastern Time. Mrs. 's expected opponent will be among the guests tomorrow on CNN's LATE EDITION. New York City's Republican Mayor Rudy Giuliani is Wolf Blitzer's guest, noon Easter ECIAL,” CNN, 2/6/2000
GENE RANDAL e university campus in Pu
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I know that in her travels around our country she faces some of the same questions all of us face as we talk to our neighbors and friends. I'm asked again and again, why doesn't Congress address the issues that families really care about? Improving education; making our schools and neighborhoods safe; and addressing the rising costs of health care. Unfortunately, we now have a Congress that puts the special interests ahead of the public interest.

We have a Republican leadership whose number one goal is to get through the year without addressing the important issues the American people sent us here to do. They've succeeded once again this year providing a $1 trillion tax cut for corporations and special interests but not one sent to extend the life of Social Security or to modernize Medicare with a prescription drug plan.
Democrats have tried to do the people's business. We tirelessly worked to get our top priority, a Patients' of Rights, on the floor of the House. We wanted to take medical decision-making away from the HMO bureaucrats and return it to the doctors and patients where it belongs.
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But our efforts have been bottled up and frankly buried in a conference committee by the Republican leadership that puts the needs of insurance companies ahead of the needs of America's families. A narrow extreme view in Congress too often stands in the way of real progress, preventing us from enacting the strong yet sensible reforms that are necessary to ensure that the quality of health care that Americans receive goes up, not down.
Seniors are feeling the impact of the status quo on their pocketbook and on their health. Medicare has served seniors well over the last three decades. This program really works. But changes in the marketplace are pricing quality health care out of the reach of more and more seniors. A Medicare prescription drug plan and help for seniors in obt cine.
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candidate for the United States Senate seat being vacated by the long-time Democrat Daniel Patrick Moynihan. This is Mrs. 's first run for elective office. A grueling campaign expected here in New York.
Her likely Republican opponent, although he has not officially announced yet, the New York City mayor, Rudy Giuliani. Polls show a relatively (OFF-MIKE) ... said he led at one point early one. (OFF- MIKE) ... the mayor leading 47 percent to 40 percent in the latest Marist Institute Poll.
The first lady (OFF-MIKE) ... launched her campaign today. One big issue, of course, is she a New Yorker, is she representing people of New York? Just moments ago, the dean of the state's congressional delegation, Congressman Charlie Rangel addressed that issue. He said if you need help in public service, you don't ask somebody where they're from, you ask if they're willing to serve.
So already the first lady's friends trying to help her out today to answer what many consider the threshold question, is she running to represent New York, or is she running to advance her own national political agenda -- Gene.
RANDALL: Thanks, John.
With me in the studio is Schneider, our senior political analyst. , what kind of political shape is the first lady in as she formally launches this bid for the Senate?
WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SR. POLITICAL ANALYST: Gene, it's a very tight race. She's not in as good a shape as she was even a year ago at the end of the impeachment ordeal when she was running ahead of Mayor Giuliani. The latest polls, as John King just said, shows her trailing the New York City mayor.
Another poll just came out today, the Quinnipiac College Poll, which shows here behind also 45 to 42, 45 percent for Giuliani, 42 percent for Mrs. . But both of these polls are interesting because they both show that she ties among women voters in New York. She is not running ahead of the mayor among women and that's a rn record for talk show appeara hat he said on one of the talk s ates Senate.
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we're going to do the same thing next year for prescription drugs.
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With the leadership of people like the first lady, who brings unparalleled passion and knowledge to health care issues, Democrats are going to win this very fundamental battle for the quality of life for America's seniors, our most important citizens, who've given us the quality of life in the great country that we have.
Now it's my honor to introduce a courageous woman who's dedicated her career to the well being of people: children, seniors, people of every walk of life. She's been a magnificent first lady for our country, and I believe she's going to make a magnificent senator from the state of New York. .
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: Thank you. Thank you. Well, I want to thank Leader Gephardt for his leadership on this and so many other important issues that are facing our country.
: You know, we are now entering the closing days of the first session of the 106th Congress, and I am confident that when the 107th Congress convenes, we will have a new speaker and his name will be Dick Gephardt.
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And we'll have a new majority leader and his name will be David Bonior.
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Now, this will happen because, under the leadership of the president, the vice president, Democrats in Congress and allies throughout the country, the Democratic Party is the only party fighting for issues that the American people really care about that are close to our hearts; whether it is the economy or health care, Social Security, education, the environment or prescription drugs for our nation's seniors. And it is a privilege to join so many Democratic members of Congress in making this commitment to our seniors as strong as we possibly can.
There are many people here I would like to recognize but let me just mention a few: Henry Waxman, through his leadership of the Government Reform Committee, has produced over 100 report dressing the differential pricin
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>>6568299
It was a pretty solid era for entertainment, definitely deserves the reverence that it gets, although that's with a bit of cherry picking of course.

Still, easy to get excited when a classic grim-dark 80's film speaks to you.
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to somehow make it clear to the voters of New York, today perhaps, that her agenda will be their agenda, because frankly, especially in upstate New York, the carpetbagger charge that she's come from nowhere, from Washington, from Arkansas to try to claim the seat to further her own career, they suspect that and that's why she's running behind.
RANDALL: Do you think we'll see a kinder, gentler Rudy Giuliani in the days ahead?
SCHNEIDER: It's hard to imagine such a thing, but he was pretty kind and gentle today, when she's tried to portray him as a bully -- her people -- I won't say she's done this, but her staff has tried to portray as someone who's part of the vast right-wing conspiracy, who's going to be used to -- by the anti- forces.
Number one, his views are not that right wing. On our own "LATE EDITION WITH WOLF BLITZER," he talked about supporting the minimum wage increase, supporting the patients' of rights and the right of patients to sue, supporting the president's agenda on a whole number of issues. He's not a right winger.
Second of all, it's hard to portray him as someone who's going to be pushed around somehow by the right-wing who run Congress here in Washington, because frankly, New Yorkers don't believe that anybody pushes Mayor Giuliani around.
RANDALL: , one major piece of business for the campaign now in New York for the first lady is to reintroduce her to the voters of that state. She will argue she has been misperceived, and part of the effort today is an 18-minute biographical video of Mrs. . I want to look at part of that and then ask you about it.
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DOROTHY RODHAM , 'S MOTHER: She was a good child without being too good.
RODHAM , FIRST LADY: I was very fortunate that I lived with both my parents and my two younger brothers in a close-knit neighborhood. I went to really good public schools. My father was a small businessman. He had a small drapery comp ned and sold. We had a wonderful time.
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around and they say, the Republicans, that they can't afford to help people cope with the rising cost of prescription drugs, and it doesn't make any sense to them.
A majority of Americans support a prescription drug benefit, and they expect actions from this Congress, not excuses. A majority of Americans want to put medical decisions back into the hands of doctors and patients, and they support a Patients' of Rights. They expect progress from us, not procrastination on this important issue.
A majority of Americans are worried about violence in their children's schools and in the workplace. They expect the Congress to make decisions on these important issues and not delay. And the list goes on and on. Campaign finance reform -- nothing. School construction and modernization -- nothing. Protecting Medicare -- nothing. Strengthening Social Security -- nothing coming out of this Congress.
So it's no wonder the American people are frustrated. It's no wonder that they're cynical. The majority in Congress is deliberately ignoring them on issue after issue that matter to them in a very personal way. It touches their lives every day, all of these issues. And that's why we have had to resort to discharge petitions to force these issues onto the calendar of the House of Representatives.
We've introduced strong, common-sense legislation to address America's prescription drug crisis and to help seniors avoid having to choose between buying groceries or taking the medicine their doctors prescribe. Yet the Republican leaders refuse to schedule a vote.
Well, here to talk about our efforts to help older Americans get prescription drug coverage is Congressman Pete Stark. Pete Stark has been a champion, a champion of comprehensive Medicare reform, and he has been a passionate advocate, a very passionate advocate for older Americans on a variety of issues, not only health care but other issues that affect their lives.
Pete Stark.
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sold. We had a wonderful time.
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RANDALL: This is obviously a softer Rodham , to what end, ?
SCHNEIDER: To the end that I mentioned before. She is now tied with Giuliani among women voters in New York. One of the constituencies she has to bolster her standing with is women.
This video, this biography is soft focused. It focuses on children, on her mother, who's featured very prominently in it on her life's background, it focuses on her role as a woman, her relationship both with her mother and with her daughter. This is aimed at shoring up her support among women voters in New York. A lot of them sympathize with her when they saw her as a victim a year ago during the impeachment saga, but now see her differently. They see her as a pol (ph) and that's not a very flattering light.
RANDALL: You saw the entire 18 minutes. How would you characterize it?
SCHNEIDER: Very soft, very biographical. Emphasizing her commitment, her personal convictions on issues like health care, women's rights, children's rights, and also emphasizing her willingness to speak out. New Yorkers value that. It showed her speaking in China, it showed -- and I'm not sure this was wise -- her meeting with Mrs. Arafat on the West Bank, which was very controversial. But it does say that she speaks her mind. In fact, it featured one incident quite prominently, mentioned it several times, that when she graduated Wellesley College in the 1960s she gave a speech that was sensational. She threw away her prepared text and spoke out about the issues that were then whirling the country, because it wants to make the point -- like a true New Yorker, this woman will speak her mind.
RANDALL: And what kind of campaign do you see her running in New York, ?
somewhere else to begin with, many from another country. But in upst face, if she's never lived or worked here?
s the way LBJ did in 1964.
RANDALL: Rob announcement that indeed
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$3,000. The president has proposed a plan that's similar with no annual deductible. It's different, but it's similar.
These are s that are all variations. We're going to have the Turner-Allen-Waxman , which is another way to help seniors get drugs at a discount at no cost to the federal government. And I might remind the people that we -- this was brought up -- Karen Thurman introduced this amendment in the Ways and Means Committee where they're over talking about helping Social Security today, and where we just passed out a for $800 ion in tax cuts.
Every Republican on the Ways and Means Committee voted to deny senior citizens a discount on their prescription drugs at no cost to the federal government.
Now, what do you have to give them to make them do what's right? We're going to give them a discharge petition for all of us...
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... and it should be the rallying point to show America and our colleagues that we intend, in the Democratic Party, to keep reminding people that we can do this.
We have the greatest economic boom of all times. We have everything going for us; and, yet, we can't find the money to help seniors get a reasonable price on their prescription drugs? Nonsense.
If the Republican mayor in New York can go to a fund-raiser today to get money from the pharmaceutical industry, if the Republican leader in the Senate can be taking pork home to Mississippi but not give us five cents to help seniors, then we know where the trouble lies. It lies in a political solution and I want to...
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I've said enough. I think that Ronnie Shows, who came here from Mississippi, has got to tell us what he's going to do because he's going to march over to the House floor today with another and lead the fight from the South. We come from the West. We're coming from New England and New York. We're going to surround them and we're going to do what's right.
Ronnie Shows from Mississippi.
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I really, really, really hope they stay. Maybe I ought to write them a new charlie fic soon...
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RANDALL: Welcome back.
Rodham , the first lady of this country will announce that she is a candidate for the U.S. Senate in New York, as she tries to succeed Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who is retiring.
Let's go back to Purchase, New York, where the announcement is still some minutes away.
CNN's senior White House correspondent John King is there.
John, I know there is an 18-minute biographical video which is being played at the moment. How focused is the campaign effort to reintroduce her to the voters on her own terms?
KING: Well, that is their main mission today. They say in this speech, through this video we're seeing right here at the announcement right now, 400,000 flyers being distributed across this state entitled ": the Real Story."
Obviously, the first lady has been a very controversial figure in American politics these past seven years. She was controversial back in Arkansas as well. This a chance for her. She says she has been mischaracterized by her critics, and she acknowledges she perhaps has not done as good a job as she would like to have done to explain herself.
A bit of a role reversal here today. The first lady has traditionally been out supporting her husband in his political effort -- when he was governor of Arkansas, when he was running for president back in 1991 and 19921. Of course, she led the health care reform task force, turned into a political disaster for both the president and the first lady. Now she steps out on her own.
We have not seen her today. She has been off in private rehearsing her speech, we are told. We did see the president and daughter Chelsea earlier today. They went into Mrs. 's new hometown of Chappaqua to the Starbucks, a little coffee, a little sightseeing early this morning for them. They will be in a supporting role her Rodham 'sorganiza people of New York.
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being here, and my colleagues, Mr. Gephardt, Mr. Bonior and Mr. Waxman and other distinguished members of the press and other special guests.
This is a very important day for me. I've been a representative from the Fourth Congressional District of Mississippi almost a year now, and we've debated large and small items, I guess you might say. But our nation is continuing to grow in the greatest expansion of our economy that we've ever known. But can we really, truly move forward and leaving some people behind? Can we actually turn our backs on the elderly and seniors of our country? The very people -- think about it -- the very people that Tom Brokaw calls the greatest generation, that fought a Depression and fought a war and now you know what they're fighting? Another war. A war on drugs, you might say, or maybe the drug companies.
The people who ought to be benefiting from the most important times of their life are being asked to sacrifice and to give up other things like food, paying their rent, their electric . I tell you, I'm from Mississippi, and that's not right, and I don't believe it's right with any of these people here or they would not be here.
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And I can -- and believe me, I can give you some examples from Mississippi. I represent the Fourth District, and we're not the wealthiest district in the state, believe me. And I can tell you stories of a lady named Lucille Bruce (p
H.R. 664, the Prescription Drug Fairness for Seniors Act, was introduced
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If you picked up your "New York Times" this morning, she does an interview in which she talks about how shocked she was when she saw her property tax for the first time, also talks about her first visit to the supermarket. The first lady trying to cast a new image here, trying to relate herself more to the people now whose votes she desperately needs -- women voters in New York, suburban voters in New York -- and she certainly can't expect a win upstate, but she does very much need to cut into the mayor's lead up there. RANDALL: And, John, once again that biographical video is continuing behind you. we'll get back to you in just a few moments.
Today's official announcement, of course, comes after many months of unofficial campaigning by the first lady. How has she been received by voters in New York to this point?
Here is Deborah Feyerick in New York.
DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): There's something about that opinionated New Yorkers either love or hate.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: She's got guts.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: Between her and , I think they should just stay out of public office from here on in.
FEYERICK: The Chicago, Boston, Arkansas, Washington and now Chappaqua resident has lived in the state for only a month, a problem for some New Yorkers, not for others.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: I'm uncomfortable having someone come in from outside the area and just set up shop here.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: It doesn't matter because I'm not from New York, too.
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seven days -- seven days to do the right thing -- I will file a discharge petition to take my resolution from the Rules Committee and bring H.R. 664 directly to the floor for a vote.
Just think about it. Seven days for the leadership to do the right thing and for people to enjoy a decent standard of living at the end of the American century. I choose to stand with our senior citizens. I choose to fight for their values and principles, and I know that we all hold closely. Help us move H.R. 664 forward today for our seniors and for all of us.
Thank you.
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GEPHARDT: We want to again thank the first lady for being here with us. She has a schedule that requires her to leave now, but before she does, we want to tell her as a group again how proud we are of her and how much we thank her for her efforts for senior citizens in this country.
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I'd like to also recognize a representative who is the ranking member of the Health Subcommittee of the Commerce Committee and has worked prodigiously to get this legislation across.
GEPHARDT: And it's also his birthday today. Sherrod Brown of Ohio.
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Questions? Yes.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
GEPHARDT: Well, as you know, this session this year may end in the next few days or few weeks, we're not sure when. But we've decided that the only way we're going to get a vote on these s is to force them on to the agenda. If we're still here next week, we could have a vote on this if the Republican leadership would decide to do it.
As you know, the leadership here decides the schedule every day, we have no power, other than through the discharge, to get something to be voted on. So we are resorting to the same tool we've had to use on minimum wage and on Patients' of Rights and on a whole range of issues because they simply won't bring it up.
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FEYERICK: Still, 's time in the Arkansas governor's mansion and White House weighs on voters' minds.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: Being the president's wife, I mean she has a very good grasp on the issues.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: Her experience in New York is limited at best.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: She's been in politics a long time and I think she has the educational criteria and I think she could do it.
FEYERICK: She's won friends on some policies but not on others.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: I don't think so. She's a friend of Israel and I don't think so she's a friend of New Yorkers either.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: She cares about kids. She cares about health.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: I don't like her views on the situation in Vieques or the political prisoners, the way she wavered on both.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: She seems to have good intentions. FEYERICK: As for her character...
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: I think I'll pass on comment on that.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: I think she's been very intelligent. She does a lot of research before she does stand for something.
FEYERICK: She's remained standing by her man.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: I'm not too crazy about the whole shenanigans and I think she's part of it.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: Couples have marital problems and I think she rode through that as a champion.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: There's no denying the fact that her and her husband, the president, are a team and you can't have one without the other.
FEYERICK: So what are her chances?
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: No, I think it's great. It's just about woman time now.
UNIDENTIFIED NEW YORKER: Hey, she could try like everybody else. It's a free country, right?
FEYERICK: Whether New Yorkers like it or not.
Deborah Feyerick, CNN, New York.
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RANDALL: Schneider, John King alluded to the fact that President has no formal role in today's ceremony. But he also said that the president is, of cours eral member of the administration, but
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QUESTION: Could you or Congressman Stark elaborate on this criticism of Mayor Giuliani for meeting with the pharmaceutical companies today?
GEPHARDT: Well, it's our understanding that meeting is occurring. Look, pharmaceutical companies have done a good job in this country, they have developed a lot of drugs using the NIH research, the basic research that the public has paid for. They've taken that research and developed it further into specific pharmaceutical items which are very important to our people. And I salute the industry and I think they've done a good job and I think they have very smart scientists and business people who help them develop these products.
What we're seeing here, though, is that simple fairness is required. And we had a press conference a week ago that showed that these companies, while they spend a lot on research and we give them a research and development tax credit to do that, and I'm for that and so are all these members, they have the largest profit margins of any industry group in the country.
Now, I understand their desire to make profit, that's the desire of anybody in business. They have every right to try to do that. But when the victim of their desire to make more profit is the senior citizens of this country and they're being dealt with unfairly, then, as many of the speakers said, it's the duty of the government and the responsibility of the government to come in and level that playing field so that seniors are treated like everybody else. And that's what we're trying to do.
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Anything else? Well, thank you very much. Let's get it done.
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I want to thank Efi (ph) for those much too kind words. She has been a friend and adviser and supporter, and cheerleader for me through good times and not
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registration edge. It's one of the states Democrats believe they can count on in a presidential election, though, I hasten to add, voted for Ronald Reagan twice. Nevertheless, it is a state that tilts Democratic. not by decisive margins.
The problem is will Al Gore or Bradley have that kind of a margin this year in November? It looks doubtful. Right now, the polls show Gore and Bush, if they are the nominees of the two parties, are running very, very close. So it doesn't look like it's going to be a Democratic landslide in New York.
And frankly, there's a big question mark over this presidential election, and that's John McCain. A lot of Democrats and independents like John McCain. If he turns out to be the Republican nominee, oh boy, watch out.
RANDALL: And hasn't he gotten, really, a lot of attention in New York simply because Bush's people, from Governor Pataki on down, tried to keep McCain off the ballot and finally had to surrender? So he will have ballot access. He's getting a windfall of publicity just from that, isn't he?
SCHNEIDER: That's right. It's a real bonanza for John McCain. He looks like the guy, you know, who took on the impossible task, overthrew the bosses, the machine, the establishment of the New York Republican Party which tried to freeze him out and won. And he won. And New Yorkers are kind of excited by that, the little guy taking on the system, especially people like the mayor -- the governor of New York -- and the mayor, who of course supports George Bush as well.
RANDALL: In Purchase, New York, today, the first lady will be introduced by Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. She, of course, would like to succeed him in the U.S. Senate. And when that happens we'll bring it to you, but right now we'll take a break.
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RANDALL: There is a major family event today in Purchase, New York, outside New York City. It is no e.
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commitment to Greek- American relations, to both of her countries and that is how she sees it.

It is always possible to love more than one child and Efi (ph) loves more than one country with the same passion and intensity. And we are certainly grateful that America is her adopted land. And we are very admiring of the continuing devotion she shows to Greece.

I'm also pleased to be here with the mayor, whom I have had the great personal pleasure of dealing with on my previous trip when my daughter and I came. We were so fortunate to be able to spend a good deal time and to really see more of the country and meet so many wonderful people.
And although this visit is far too short, I'm looking forward to the opportunity to return with my husband and my daughter and in a more leisurely way -- see more of the country. I'm continuing to learn more about Greece and I know that we would look forward greatly to a return visit.
And, Mr. Mayor, I said it privately and I would say also publicly just on our ride in from the airport and our short time back and forth to the presidential palace last night, the city looks fabulous.
And I know that you're getting ready for the Olympics and the entire world will be able to enjoy the hospitality and the beauty of Athens and of Greece.
I want to thank the deputy minister of foreign affairs and so many other friends who are here with us today. And I particularly want to acknowledge the new leadership of the foundation and to thank all of you who will carry on and continue this important work.
You know, we could not have mad
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The ass in those jeans ain't bad either.

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Of course it's a loving home; Zootopia Equivalent Cheerios and Zootopia Equivalent Sesame Street every morning.
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John, tell me about the turnout for today's event.
KING: We have a who's who here of New York Democratic officials. They might as well have the state convention. Members of Congress here, city Democrats as well as Democrats from all around the state of New York. Also, a large representative from teachers unions here and other organized labor groups backing the first lady. A small smattering of White House staff on hand as well to watch this. They're traveling here with the president of the United States.
What you're about to see, Gene, a very unique moment that shows where we are, a very confused state of Democratic politics right now. The first lady will be introduced by the man she hopes to replace, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan. In the presidential race, Senator Moynihan is a supporter of Bradley. Senator Moynihan is known to not be terribly fond of the president, Mr. , but he is giving his full support to Mrs. here. That a sign of the rather unique Democratic politics, as she launches her first run for elective office.
Right now we're in the final minutes of that 18-minute biographical video you mentioned earlier. It was produced by two long-time friends of the s, the Hollywood producers Harry Thomason (ph) and Linda Bloodworth (ph). Thomason, you might remember back at the 1992 Democratic Convention, a long biographical video about called "The Boy From Hope." That was designed to refurbish his image after very bruising Democratic primaries. The Thomasons also produced this video, as the first lady tries to reintroduce herself not only to the people of New York, but to the people of the United States as well. Although, her worries over the next several months, obviously, building support here in New York.
RANDALL: John, what exactly is the president's role today other than accompanying his wife?
KING: He will sit in the background and just cheer his wife on. People in the -- Mrs. 's campaign say that was his decision, that he ember.
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And without both, you're not giving a child or a person the kind of support that anyone needs, both to understand from where he or she came from and also where their destination might be.
As we are celebrating the millennium in the United States, the president and I started a Millennium Council. And we adopted as our theme, "Honor the Past, Imagine the Future." And that is indeed what this foundation is doing here in Greece.
You are honoring the past that gave so much to so many, not only to Greek-Americans, but to Western civilization and the entire world.
But you're also imagining a future, a future that is not just symbolized and represented by trees, but by the linkages, the connections, the deep feelings that are created by enlisting the support of all Americans, not just Greek-Americans, in this very important effort.
You're also making clear that in this new century that we're about to enter, our environment is critical. It is after all what we live in. It is what the memories that so many of us have of places we love, are made of.
When I think my trip to Olympus or Delphi I think of landscapes. I think of the beauty of the God-made terrain as well as the built terrain that has stood the test of time.
So there is so much richness in what you do here today and I was very honored that Efi (ph) asked me to participate in a very small way in encouraging this project.
This year this tree, and we hope 1.5 million others, will be planted. That is a very tangible symbol of the friendship between our countries and our people.
It is a friendship that just like a tree just something that passes us by, but what we create and what gifts we give to our children, as we pass on our traditions and our values.
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RANDALL: Schneider, we talked about this before. This was a very understated Rudy Giuliani, wasn't it?
SCHNEIDER: Yes. Well, it was understated, but he made it clear that he's a fighter. You know, there's something interesting and odd about Giuliani. He often takes up causes that he doesn't win. Remember he tried to shut down the Brooklyn Museum of Art because they showed an exhibit that he thought was sacrilegious. He tried to revise the city charter in a very unpopular move, rejected by the voters three to one. And the voters turn against him. They don't like those things he's doing. And every time he does it, his ratings go up. Why? Because they think he's a fighter. He's someone who will fight for the city of New York, fight -- he hopes they'll see him as fighting for the state of New York.
RANDALL: In what kind of shape is he in going into this race, again, assuming he will make the announcement?
SCHNEIDER: Well, he has certain advantages. You know, he -- the mayor of New York is never popular upstate. As far as upstate New Yorkers are concerned, New York City is Mars. But the problem is, she is not very popular upstate either. So he's leading her, but not a decisive margin. That's where the battle will be fought.
His base is not in New York City, where she's leading by a very good margin, he's going to cut into that a bit, because he's a popular mayor, but still, New York City, that's Democratic. His base is in the suburbs of New York. As I like to put it, the suburbs of New York watch New York City television, they think he's done a great job, it's a safe place to go to the theater now, but they don't have to live with him. They don't have to live with the turmoil and the traumas that he causes, and that's where he's best.
RANDAL growing up north of New York City, when I was a small child someone said to me there is a p aid, yes, there is. I said, n There in the next couple o n a popular figure upstate.
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So, I came this morning to thank Efi (ph) and to thank all of you for in a very tangible way making a wonderful gift for the 21st century.
Thank you very much.
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“CBS Evening News,” CNN, 11/23/1999
DAN RATHER, anchor:
says she's in--just not quite yet officially. She said so today, after supporters told her she needed to fight back and stop talk that in the end, she wouldn't run for the US Senate seat from New York. Republicans supporting Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, and some Democrats, were thumping her with words such as 'ineffective' and 'blunder-prone,' especially after her trip to the Middle East. The first lady chose a friendly forum of teachers in New York today to try to blunt the critics and questions.
Mrs. RODHAM : The answer is, yes, I intend to run.
RATHER: A carefully crafted answer to a carefully scripted question. Almost officially announcing, but still not quite.
Mrs. : I should add that--that I will make a formal announcement after the first of the year.
RATHER: It was the least she could on her first New York visit since her Middle East trip. While Mrs. was away playing the role of first lady, a whispering campaign by Republicans and worries amon ernment. And I thought that was my primary obligation.
RATHER: Only after criticism did Mrs. respond. It took just hours for one Jewish group to get out this political commercial.
(Excerpt from commercial) ni hard over the conditions of New York City schools and that, as she sees it, they've gotten so much worse under his leadership. Thus, she signaled today that improving schools is her major campaign theme.
By the way, the most conservative estimates of what the combined cost of this New York Senate race will be are $ 50 million or more.
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SEN. DANIEL PATRICK MOYNIHAN (D), NEW YORK: ... and it was decided that I would go and take our daughter, who had never been. So I hired a carriage and we made our way around through the Secret Service checkpoints, and we were sniffed and prodded and scrutinized, and finally got to the west entrance and a beaming young Secret Service agent looked in the window and said, good evening, Senator Thurmond.
(LAUGHTER)
Which brings me -- reminds me that indeed in just three years I will have spent a half a century in New York politics.
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I got out of the Navy, finished graduate school and went off on a full ride to wander around the world for a bit, came back 1953, went right to work in the mayoral campaign of Robert F. Wagner for mayor of New York. Next came the Harriman campaign for governor and the Harriman administration, then the Kennedy administration. In each of which settings I came to know Eleanor Roosevelt.
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President Kennedy set up a commission on the status of women with her as chair and she would ask us up to Valkil (ph) and there would be wonderful evenings. stories of the 1930s, and discussions of issues to come, lots of martinis, and you came to love this person so because she cared so much about others.
And I would like say to the lady who put a picture of Eleanor Roosevelt on her White House office wall the day she arrived, , where are you? , Eleanor Roosevelt would love you.
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And here she is, our next senator and our first lady senator ever, to tell you what she's going to do with the trust we're going to impose on her.
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H. : Thank you and thank you Senator Moynihan for that very generous introduction and for all the support that you and Liz have given to me. You know New York and America are greatly indebted to Senator Moynihan for your years of courageous and visionary leadership.
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No one has done more to remind us that families are the bedrock of our society. I want t s.
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ones, and that I have a lot that I want to say about it. And so I'm looking forward with great anticipation to it.
QUESTION: Mrs. , isn't it going to be very difficult? Haven't the last few weeks shown, particularly your trip to the Middle East, that it's going to be very difficult to juggle these balls? How are you going to divide being first lady with being a candidate?


: Well, you know, I had always intended to scale back my duties as first lady, and that is what I'm doing. And I will be more and more focused on the campaign and becoming a candidate, and that's what I intend to do in the next months so that I'll be able to get out and see as many people as possible and meet with them, and I'm looking forward to it.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Well, I have tried not to take on any new responsibilities after the first of the year. I've tried to set my schedule in such a way so that I would be free to campaign as vigorously as possible, which I intend to do.
Yes?
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Well, I'm going to be moving into my house as soon as the Secret Service tells me that it's ready and available to moved into. Obviously I will still be in Washington from time to time. I have to be. There are many things that I will still have to attend to, but I'll be living in Westchester and I'll be traveling around the state and campaigning.
Yes?
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) : Well, I know there a here's going to be a lot of time between now and then. But it's time to get moving and get started.
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I know that Purchase was recently named one of the finest regional public liberal arts colleges in the entire country.
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And it is part of the greatest state university system in this country.
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I think all of the young singers and entertainers and I especially want to thank Amity Weiss (ph) from Ithaca for representing young New Yorkers and all of their possibilities. Thank you, Amity.
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And I thank all my fellow New Yorkers for coming out on this wintry Sunday afternoon to be with me. My long-time friends, my new supporters, elected officials, all of you, I appreciate your being with me. And I know that there are about 1,000 more in the overflow room, and I'm very glad you could be here as well.
I'm so grateful to and Chelsea, my mother and my brothers, and all of our families -- those who could be with us and those who could not, today.
And I'm pleased that I have with me, also, some old friends from my childhood in Chicago, my college days and law-school years in New England, my wonderful years in Arkansas and as first lady. Thank you all for a lifetime's worth of love and encouragement.
You know, the first time I spoke to a group this large was at my college commencement in 1969. I'm a little older now...
(LAUGHTER)
... a little blonder...
(LAUGHTER)
... a lot humbler. I've gone to work, I've raised a child, and I've spent 30 years trying to better the lives of children and families. But I often return to one thing I said way back then, that politics is the art of making possible what appears to be impossible.
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I still believe that today. We can do what seems impossible if we have the vision, the passion and the will to do it together.
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then. But it's time to get moving and get started.
QUESTION: Up to now, you have been having difficulty pronouncing Rudy Giuliani's name.
(LAUGHTER)
QUESTION: Is your concern in not only in New York state and New York city is under -- the -- what he has done to the poor. Are you going to be talking about how good or bad he is?
: I think as this campaign moves forward, we're going to be talking about a lot of issues in New York City. Because I'm concerned about a lot of what is happening in the city. I think everyone of us was just heart sick at what happened to the young woman who was hit with a brick, standing at the street corner in the middle of the afternoon. And obviously, we have to be alert to doing everything we possibly can to prevent, you know, violent crime and to prevent people who are mentally ill from committing violent crimes.
That's a real problem and it deserves real solutions, and I will have more to say about that as we go forward.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Well, we'll certainly have plenty of time for that.
QUESTION: Could you correct any (OFF-MIKE) how difficult is Mayor Giuliani? I'm talking about how much he attacked you after (OFF-MIKE). (OFF-MIKE) any lessons about how difficult this campaign is going to be (OFF-MIKE)?
: This is going to be a very hard-fought campaign. I have absolutely no illusions about it, but it doesn't concern me. I think a hard-fought campaign about the issues that concern the people of New York, is what the people of New York deserve to have. So there are going to be a lot of contrast between both of us. And I'm going to be drawing those contrasts
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And I am convinced we can move on from here to meet the challenges that lie ahead. We can strengthen our families, we can protect our children, we can improve our schools, we can provide health care to all our citizens, and we can bring good jobs to every corner of New York.
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Because I believe we can meet these challenges together, I am honored today to announce my candidacy for the United States Senate from New York.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you. Now I know, some people are asking why I'm doing this here and now. And that's a fair question.
Here's my answer and why I hope you'll put me to work for you. I may be new to the neighborhood, but I'm not new to your concerns.
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When I ate lunch with teachers at a school in Queens, I heard how hard it is to teach and learn when 2,000 kids are crammed into a building designed for half that number. And I thought -- I thought about the work I've done for 20 years to improve our public schools. Now I want to make sure that every child in New York has the best possible public education, with well-trained teachers in modern classrooms connected to the Internet.
(APPLAUSE)
That's why I want to be your senator.
When I visited businesses from Jamestown to Great Neck, I thought about my father who ran a small business and worked hard every day. I thought of all the work I did, first in Arkansas and then as first lady, throughout America and in developing companies, to improve training for workers and to provide credit for entrepreneurs and bring jobs to areas with high unemployment. Now I want to bring the prosperity of this new economy to all New Yorkers, from upstate towns and farms to inner-city neighborhoods. That's why I want to be your senator.
(APPLAUSE)
When I spoke with breast cancer survivors at Adelphi University, I thought about 's mother and the courageous battle she fought until her last day. Over the past seven years, I've worked t glorifies guns and violence.
That's why I've
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QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Well, I'm not going to go back. I'm going forward.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: No, because I will make a formal announcement that lays out, you know, my positions and what I'm going to be talking about in the campaign after the first of the year.
But when Randy (ph) asked me her question, you know, I felt compelled -- you know, I felt like her pupil; there was the teacher asking me the question.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Well, she, you know, she sort of mentioned to me as we were walking in that, you know, there are people who are asking about whether you're going to do this. And you know, I may want to know and so, sure enough, in front of all of you and everybody else in the room, she asked me.
Just a minute. Yes?
QUESTION: Is there any ambiguity now that you are or are not running? Are you putting that totally to rest?
: I will have a formal announcement after the first of the year that will lay out the campaign's position and what I intend to talk about.
Yes?
(CROSSTALK)
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Yes. Yes, it is.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) at this point?
: Well, I've said what I'm going to say on it.
Yes?
QUESTION: Looking forward, do you think that there is a vast right-wing conspiracy...
(LAUGHTER)
: You know...
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Oh, perish the thought. I think there's going to be an interesting amount of activity around this campaign that will bear watching, which I expect all of you to do. pening over the past couple of weeks?
: You know, I am a strongly committed advocate for a safe, secure, peaceful Israel.
I have been for 20 years, ever since I was fortunate enough to go with my husband to Israel and see for myself what had been done there, what the obstacles and challenges that the people of Israel face. I have worked in every way that I knew how to further the interests of Israel.
And I also have a lot of concern about the issues here at home that many people of every ethnic background also share concerns about.
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Now I want to challenge the entertainment industry to establish a voluntary, uniform rating system for movies, TV programs and video games that parents can actually use to protect their children. That's why I want to be your senator.
(APPLAUSE)
When I listen to young people from Buffalo to Brooklyn talk about how a caring adult or an after-school program turned their lives around, I thought about all the children I had tutored and represented over the years who were very poor or victims of child abuse or caught up in the foster care system. I'm more committed than ever to helping these children, to giving them the child care and the pre-school, the summer school, after-school and mentoring programs they need. After all, they're all our children, and that's I want to be your senator. (APPLAUSE)
For over 30 years in many different ways, I've seen first-hand the kinds of challenges New Yorkers face today. I care about the same issues you do. I understand them, and I know I can make progress on them. That's why, my friends, I want to be your senator.
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My life's work has been motivated by fundamental beliefs that are at the heart of my decision to run. I believe every child counts and every child should have a chance. I believe raising children is every parent's most important job. I believe all parents must be responsible and be able to succeed at home and at work, and that no child should grow up in poverty in America in the 21st century.
I believe the solutions to our public problems ought to be based on core American values: community and opportunity, responsibility and enterprise. That means I support a balanced budget and more investments in education; welfare reform and better child care for working parents; tougher child support enforcement and second-chance homes for unwed mothers; more police on the beat and fewer guns on the street...
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So I believe that this campaign and, as people get to hear me and meet me and don't see me through a filter of somebody else's perspective, will settle a lot of these issues that have been raised in the last couple of days.
Yes?
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE) advantage over you? Or will that further politicize (OFF-MIKE)?
: I don't know. We're going to have to see how that develops.
QUESTION: Mrs. ?
: Yes?
QUESTION: How will you distinguish between official expenditures and campaign expenditures. You have some advantages. You've got advance people and security people, and you've got the planes and the cars and all the rest. How will you charge that against your campaign? Or will you not use some of the security to which you are entitled in order to level the playing field and ensure the taxpayer they're not paying for this?
: You know, Libby (ph), I follow the rules that were laid down by the Congress that are in effect for anyone in any position that is in the White House. And that's what I intend to do. Whatever the law is, I am going to follow the law.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: I am, aren't I?
(LAUGHTER)
You know, I have -- I have -- I have...
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: Well, I think that I will do whatever is required, and part of what I have to do is listen to the Secret Service and follow their direction. It would be irresponsible for me to do otherwise.
So, that's what I'm going to try to do, and I'm going to try as hard as I can to make it clear that I'm not going one inch beyond what is legally required and that, you know, everything else is paid for by my campaign.
Yes?
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: There's a little bit of that in this campaign, a little virtual reality.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
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I really needed to hear this.

I genuinely appreciate it.
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... better protection for the environment and steady economic progress.
I'm a New Democrat. I don't believe government is the source of all our problems or the solution to them. But I do believe that when people live up to their responsibilities, we ought to live up to ours, to help them build better lives. That's the basic bargain we owe one another in America today.
(APPLAUSE)
To fulfill that basic bargain for New York, I'll have to fight. Well, I've had some experience with that, too.
(LAUGHTER)
When I pushed for teacher testing and higher standards in the 1980s in the face of protests and boycotts, when I went to Beijing to speak out for women's rights as human rights...
(APPLAUSE)
... in the face of strong opposition to my trip, both here and there, when I tried to get affordable quality health care for all Americans against all the odds and the special interest groups...
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... I won the first two battles. And as you may recall, I lost the last one. But instead of giving up, I learned to take a different approach. That's why I fought for the Children's Health Insurance Program, which already has insured two million children, with funding for three million more.
(APPLAUSE)
That's why I fought to make sure new mothers could at least stay overnight in the hospital and to protect workers from losing their insurance if they changed jobs.
That's why I'm still fighting for a real patient's of rights, and why I'll keep fighting until every American has access to health care.
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If you'll put me to work for you, I'll take these values to the United States Senate and I'll fight my heart out for you every single day. I'll be on your side in the fight for higher standards, smaller classes and well-trained teachers in modern classrooms, so that our kids can learn what I call the six R's: not just reading, 'riting and 'rithmitic, but also responsibility, respect and results.
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I'll be on your side in the fight for a fiscal plan that pa
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contrasts, which any election is about. I mean, ultimately elections come down to choices. And I will be talking a lot about what I believe I could do were I fortunate enough to be in the Senate for the state of New York and the issues that I would work on and the kinds of concerns that I would take with me to the Senate.
So, we do have a year to go, and there will be a lot of time to develop those contrasts. QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
: You know, I have always taken a very strong position on behalf of teachers, and that includes ensuring that teachers are given the respect and the compensation that they deserve to have to do one of the most important jobs in society. And in different settings there are different kinds of steps that need to be taken in order to ensure that. And I will intend to speak out about that.
LOU WATERS, CNN ANCHOR: Rodham in New York today for a teachers conference, making the announcement. She says it was time for me to answer the direct question. The question to her, less than an hour ago, was, is it yes or is it no? The answer was: Yes, I will announce formally that I intend to run for the Senate seat being vacated by Daniel Patrick Moynihan in New York after the first of the year.
She says she intends to scale back her duties as first lady. She will campaign vigorously, will be living in Westchester, traveling the state and campaigning.
CNN's senior political analyst has been with us throughout the early stages here of this announcement. Schneider is in Washington, and , why was this the time to say yes, I will make a formal announcement?
WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Because she was under a tremendous amount of pressure. Her ratings had been slipping. She's now running seven points behind Rudy Giuliani.
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I'll be on your side in the fight for a real increase for the minimum wage, an expanded Earned Income Tax Credit for working families, and equal pay for every woman in every job.
(APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight for tough measures to prosecute hate crimes that tear at our social fabric...
(APPLAUSE)
... and to end discrimination against people simply because of their race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or religion.
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I'll be on your side in the fight to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and away from children, for closing the gun-show loophole, requiring child safety locks and licensing all new handgun owners.
(APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight to expand family and medical leave, which has already given 20 million Americans time off from work for a new baby or a sick parent.
(APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight to protect the privacy of our medical, financial and personal records.
(APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight to find smart new ways to help the least fortunate among us, including the homeless. It may be a hard thing to do, but it's the right thing to do.
(APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight to bring prosperity to upstate New York and to still-distressed urban areas with new incentives to create jobs, start businesses, reduce air fares and lower utility costs.
I'll be on your side in the fight for a safer world, to pass the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty...
(APPLAUSE)
... to strengthen our defenses against biological, chemical and cyber-terrorism, to provide debt relief to the poorest countries in Africa an, and to a comprehensive peace in the Middle East which finally guarantees Israel's security.
(APPLAUSE)
And I'll be on your side in the fight for a fair share for New York. It is just wrong that today New York sends $15 ion more in taxes each year to Washington than New York gets back. That's a big reason that local property taxes are so high. We can change that, working together.
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SCHNEIDER: Yes, she did. She said I'll be in Washington from time to time, were her words, which means that her duties as a Senate candidate are going to come first.
WATERS: All right, Schneider in Washington, on Rodham 's announcement that she will announce formally that she intends to run for that Senate seat in New York

PRESS CONFERENCE WITH FIRST LADY RODHAM FOLLOWING HER SPEECH TO THE AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS, 11/23/1999
TOPIC: HER PLAN TO RUN FOR THE SENATE
NEW YORK, NEW YORK
SECTION: WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING
Q (In progress due to feed) -- weeks with your campaign motivated you do to what you did today?
MRS. : Well, you know, I have been traveling around the state now, and I have just been so encouraged and excited by what people talk to me about and the issues that are on people's minds, and they're the ones that I've worked on for nearly 30 years now. And I just became more and more convinced that this is a campaign that needs to be made, that the issues at stake are important ones, and that I have a lot that I want to say about it. And so I'm looking forward with great anticipation to it.
Q Mrs. , isn't it going to be very difficult? Haven't the last few weeks, particularly your trip to the Middle East, shown


it's going to be very difficult to juggle these roles? How would you divide being first lady with being a candidate?
MRS. : Well, you know, I had always intended to scale back my duties as first lady, and that is what I'm doing. And I will be more and more focused on the campaign and becoming a candidate. And that's what I intend to do in the next months, so that I'll be able to get out and see as many people as possible and meet with them. And I'm looking forward to it.
Q But in the past -- (off mike).
MRS. : Well, I have tried not to take on any new responsibilities. After the first of the year, I've tried to set my schedule in such a way so that I would be free to campaign as vigorously as possible, which I intend to do.
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APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight against Republican efforts to undermine family planning or take away a woman's right to choose.
(APPLAUSE)
I'll be on your side in the fight against any tax cut so big it would take us back to the bad old days of exploding deficits and deep recessions, making it impossible for us to save Social Security and Medicare, fund our educational needs and pay down our national debt.
(APPLAUSE)
And there is one other thing I'll fight against: the divisive politics of revenge and retribution.
(APPLAUSE)
If you put me to work for you, I'll work to lift people up, not push them down.
You know, public service has been my life. It hasn't, as yet, included public office. Over the next nine months all of you will decide whether I've earned the privilege of serving you.
I want to thank those of you who have taken the time to visit with me during the last seven months as I've gone from county to county to hear what's on your minds.
I want to thank all of you who have written me or e-mailed me or visited my campaign web site, at 2000.org. I want to thank the nearly 600 families across New York who are hosting house parties this afternoon to help launch my campaign.
(APPLAUSE)
And I especially want to thank the nearly 25,000 New Yorkers who are attending those house parties this afternoon.
(APPLAUSE)
I want to thank the thousands of men and women already working as volunteers on my behalf. I want this to be a people's campaign, a grassroots campaign.
Now I know it's always going to be an easy campaign. B to thank the thousands of men and women already working as volunteers on my behalf. I want this to be a people's campaign, a grassroots campaign.
Now I know it's always going to be an easy campaign. But
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MRS. : Well, I'm going to be moving into my house as soon as the Secret Service tells me that it's ready and available to be moved into. Obviously, I will still be in Washington from time to time. I have to be. There are many things that I will still have to attend to. But I'll be living in Westchester, and I'll be traveling around the state and campaigning.
Yes?
Q (Off mike.)
MRS. : Well, I know there are people who have said that, and there are people who said that if they'd been in the position I found myself in, they would have created an international incident of some kind.
But, you know, I was there on an official trip, representing the president and our government. I went there to further the peace process and to demonstrate our strong commitment to Israel and Israel's security and future, and I thought that was my primary obligation, and I was gratified when Prime Minister Barak said over the weekend that my trip to Israel had been successful and had furthered the peace process.
Q (Off mike.)
MRS. : Well, I'm going to look forward to the campaign and to continuing to have the kind of support that I've been able to obtain from people like Senators Moynihan and Schumer and the congressmen and many local officials. And that is going to, you know, motivate me to try to make sure that people know where I stand and what I believe in and eventually will support me.
(Cross talk.)
Q Did what happened in Israel have anything to do with the timing of your announcement today?
MRS. : You know, I don't believe so. I believe that this is -- it's time for me to answer a direct question that Randy posed to me, and I did so because I believe that this campaign is about the issues that people talk to me about and that I think are of great concern to the voters that I have met over the last several months. And, you know, it is a year out and I think that ther
MRS. : Yeah.
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>>6568423
Well if that's a possibility, I'm sure I can wean them onto decent rap/hiphop like Cypress Hill or the Wutang Clan and work from there.
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Illinois, educated in New England, spent most of her adult life in Arkansas, and now in Washington. But the first lady made clear she believes she is ready to fight for New York and the United States Senate.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
H. : Now I know, some people are asking why I'm doing this here and now, and that's a fair question. Here is my answer and why I hope you'll put me to work for you. I may be new to the neighborhood, but I'm not new to your concerns. (END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: Those concerns the first lady said, education, health care reform, money to help clean up the environment, but also to keep the economy going. The first lady flatly declaring, "I'm a new Democrat." She has been regarded for years as the more liberal member of the partnership, but declaring today in a speech that very well could have been read by her husband that she would push ahead for a balanced budget, support welfare reform, she supports the death penalty as well, a more national message here.
Even as the first lady discussed specific concerns to New York, she delivered a very national Democratic message, mirroring her husband's recent State of the Union address, that in part because she and Mayor Rudy Giuliani, her Republican opponent, they both d. e has supported him and stepped up for him in key moments throughout his career. This was her day. The president looking on quite proudly, shaking his head, though, as if in disbelief several occasions -- Gene.
RANDALL: All right. John, thanks very much. We'll come back and talk with Schneider in just a moment, but first we will take a break.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
RANDALL: Today's major political development came in Purchase, New York, outside New York City. That is where the first lady, Rodham , announced formally she is a candidate, a Democratic candidate for the U.S. Senate from New York. Her probable opponent is the Republican 's how she defined it.
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I think every one of us was just heartsick at what happened to the young woman who was hit with the brick standing on the street corner in the middle of the afternoon. And obviously we have to be alert to doing everything we possibly can to prevent, you know, violent crime and to prevent people who are mentally ill from committing violent crimes.
That's a real problem, and it deserves real solutions, and I will have more to say about that as we go forward.
Q (Off mike.)
MRS. : Well, we'll certainly have plenty of time for that.
Yes, Marsha.
Q (Off mike) -- did you learn any lesson from how difficult Mayor Giuliani, how tough -- (inaudible) -- how much he attacked you after -- (inaudible.) Did it teach you any lessons about how difficult this campaign is going to be -- (inaudible.)
MRS. : This is going to be a very hard-fought campaign. I have absolutely no illusions about it. But it doesn't concern me. I think a hard-fought campaign about the issues that concern the people of New York is what the people of New York deserve to have. So there are going to be a lot of contrasts between both of us, and I'm going to be drawing those contrasts out. I'm going to be responding whenever I can.
But ultimately this election is not going to be a
MRS. : Well, I'm not going to go back. I'm going forward.
Yeah, Tish.
Q (Off mike) -- that, you know, what he told you about the -- (inaudible) -- was really long, it's artificial, it's not good for us. (Inaudible) -- January and February is (plenty time enough ?), and so on. Now, you've just dropped (a sack ?) a little bit on that. Do you worry a little that your opponent is having -- (inaudible.)
MRS. : No, because I will make a formal announcement that lays out, you know, my positions and what I'm going to be talking about in the campaign after the first of the year.
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She also said she learned to take a different approach. She learned from her mistakes, a very important acknowledgement on her part. And she said she would fight against some of the things that are wrong in Washington. But this notion of being a fighter, that's at the heart of the Gore campaign, it revived his candidacy, and that is clearly going to be at the heart of her campaign. It's going to be at one -- it's going to be very much the same campaign that Al Gore is running as Democratic candidate for president.
RANDALL: And, , finally, she was out to jump start this campaign today, wasn't she?
SCHNEIDER: Yes, she absolutely was. And what's interesting is, you know, on a lot of issues she agrees with Rudy Giuliani, or he agrees with her, abortion, gay rights, minimum wage, patients' of rights. But what she's going to do is say that she will fight the Republican Congress as much as Giuliani, because if you send a Republican to Washington, even if he's moderate and agrees with her on a lot of issues, he will be part of keeping that majority in power, and that's something that she's going to portray as threatening to New Yorkers.
RANDALL: , thank you very much, and thank you to our senior White House correspondent, John King, in Purchase, New York.
I'm Gene Randall in Washington. Donna Kelley will have the rest of the day's news in a moment.

“CNN Larry King Live,” CNN, 3/16/2000
LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, first lady Rodham on adoption. She wants you to know there are thousands of kids who need it. Entertainer Marie Osmond joins us, one of four fabulous adoptive moms joining us in Los Angeles. With her is actress Donna Mills -- she has an adoptive daughter -- actress Valerie Harper -- got an adopted daughter, too -- actress-singer Nell Carter, two adopted sons, and in Columbus, Ohio, Dave Thomas, founder of Wendy's and founder of the Dave Thomas
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everybody else in the world -- (laughs) -- she asked me. (Laughs.)
Just a minute. Just a minute.
Yes?
Q Any ambiguity now that you are, or are not, running? Are you putting that totally to rest?
MRS. : I will have a formal announcement after the first of the year that will lay out the campaign's positions and what I intend to talk about.
Yes?
Q Is there anything that would make you not run at this point?
Q Is that -- (inaudible) -- up or down?
MRS. : Yes. Yes, it is.
Q Is there any -- (inaudible) -- to not run at this point?
MRS. : Well -- (pauses, reflects) -- I have said what I am going to say on it.
Yes?
Q Looking forward, do you think that there is a "vast right- wing conspiracy" that might --
MRS. : (Laughs.) (Laughter.) You know -- (cross talk, laughter) -- oh, perish the thought. I think there is going to be an interesting amount of activity around this campaign that will bear watching, which I expect all of you to do.
Yes?
Q Are you worried about your relationship with the Jews in the city and the state in light of what's been happening over the past four weeks?
MRS. : You know, I am a strongly committed advocate for a safe, secure, peaceful Israel. I have been for 20 years, ever since I was fortunate enough to go with my husband to Israel and see for myself what had been done there, what the obstacles and challenges that the people of Israel face. I have worked in every way that I knew how to further the interests of Israel. And I also have a lot of concern about issues here at home that many people of every ethnic background also share concerns about.
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>>6568403
Then it's all gravy!

>>6568423
Considering one of them IS Hugh, I think he's doomed.
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>>6568473
Good luck, I hope things work out for them. Be as good a papa as I know you can be Mr Badger.
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filter of somebody else's perspective -- will solve a lot of these issues that have been raised in the last couple of days.
Yes?
Q (Inaudible) -- the fact you can have -- will he hold an advantage over you? Or will that further politicize his actions as mayor, as some people have charged he did with the homeless issue?
MRS. : I don't know. We are going to have to see how that develops.
Q Mrs. ?
MRS. : Yes?
Q How will you distinguish between official expenditures and campaign expenditures? You have some advantages. You have the advance people and security people and the planes, the cars and all the rest.
How will you charge that against your campaign? Or will you not use some of the security to which you are entitled, in order to level the playing field and assure people the taxpayers are not paying for this?
MRS. : You know, Andrea, I follow the rules that were laid down by the Congress that are in effect for anyone in any position that is in the White House, and that's what I intend to do. Whatever the law is, I am going to follow the law.
Q (Off mike.)
MRS. : I am, aren't I. (Laughs.) You know, I have -- I have --
Q (Off mike.)
MRS. : Well, I think that I will do whatever is required, and part of what I have to do is listen to the Secret Service and follow their direction. It would be irresponsible for me to do otherwise. So that's what I'm going to try to do, and I'm going to try as hard as I can to make it clear that I'm not going one inch beyond what is legally required, and that, you know, everything else is paid for by my campaign.
Q Mrs. ?
MRS. : Yes?
Q (Off mike.)
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
H. : I'm a new Democrat. I don't believe government is the source of all our problems, or the solution to them. But I do believe that when people live up to their responsibilities, we ought to live up to ours, to help them build better lives. That's the basic bargain we owe one another in America today.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RANDALL: , Mrs. also tied herself very much to the prosperity, which she said was attributable, at least in part, to her husband's administration.
SCHNEIDER: That was also very striking, because of course, her husband's best thought of in New York and around the country as having been one of the architects of the new economy that he likes to talk about. So she wants to bring that to bear on the concerns and problems of New Yorkers, as she did in this particular passage.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
H. : Now, I want to bring the prosperity of this new economy to all New Yorkers, from upstate towns and farms to inner-city neighborhoods. That's why I want to be your senator.
(APPLAUSE)
When I spoke with breast cancer survivors at a...
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RANDALL: Whoops. Technology. , could Al Gore have written a speech as well?
SCHNEIDER: Well, he -- she used the word that he used to reinvent his campaign quite successfully. He won the New Hampshire primary by running on the word fight. And you heard her say fight, fight, fight, about a -- at least a dozen times by my count. She said she's had experience as a fighter on issues like family leave, and going abroad to Beijing and fighting for human rights, and fighting unsuccessfully for health care reform.
She also said she learned to take a different approach. She learned from her mistakes, a very important acknowledgement on her part. And she said she would fight against some of the things that are wrong in Washington. But this notion of being a fighter, that's at the heart of the Gore campaign, it revived his candidacy, and that is clearly going to be at the heart of her campaign.
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young law student was to work with a lawyer to try to help a foster mother adopt a young foster child, and in those days, back in 1970, oftentimes the decisions were made not on the best interests of the child, but who had the biggest house or the most material possessions. And we've come a long way in making adoption much more available and affordable for all people.
And I hope one of the messages of your show tonight is that we have 400,000 children in foster care. About a hundred thousand of those are available to be adopted. We have many children who are not in the foster care system, but who are given up for adoption, and we don't have enough permanent loving homes for those children, so anything we can do we ought to try.
KING: Why -- is it that most people who want to adopt want babies? They don't want to adopt the 4-year-old or 7-year-old in the foster home?
: Well, I think that's part of it. But I also think that the system has not been as user-friendly as it needed to be. You know, starting back in '93 and '94, we began to try to change the laws at the national level, to try to begin to expedite decisions about whether a child would go back the that child's biological family or be freed for adoption, and we've done a lot of events at the White House. I know that Dave Thomas will be on with you, and he has been a terrific ally in our fight change and really open up the adoption system.
And you know, one of the great joys that I have had in the years in the White House is seeing that magic happen when a young child is adopted and finds a permanent home. We have opened the White House time and time again. I remember, particularly, a young woman who had been in foster care for most of her life who was turning 13. All she wanted is what any child wants, which is a room of her own and a family of
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MRS. : There's a little bit of that in this campaign, a little virtual reality.
Q (Off mike) -- contrasts and differences that you are likely to be -- (off mike).
MRS. : There will be a lot of time for that. And I will be, you know, developing positions and setting forth the contrasts, which any election is about. I mean, ultimately, elections come down to choices. And I will be talking a lot about what I believe I could do were I fortunate enough to be in the Senate for the state of New York and the issues that I would work on and the kinds of concerns that I would take with me to the Senate. So we do have a year to go, and there will be a lot of time to develop those contrasts.
Q (Off mike) -- with the teachers banner behind you. When you were in Arkansas, you supported competency testing for teachers. Do you support that here? And will you tell that to Randy -- (off mike)?
MRS. : You know, I have always taken a very strong position on behalf of teachers, and that includes insuring that teachers are given the respect and the compensation that they deserve to have, to do one of the most important jobs in society. And in different settings there are different kinds of steps that need to be taken in order to ensure that. And I will intend to speak out about that.
Q You still support competency testing for teachers, though, as you did in Arkansas?
MRS. : Well, that was a very different situation. And I will be talking more about my education policies in the future.
(Cross talk.) Yes?
Q Mrs. , just to clarify, what did you say yesterday -- (off mike)?
MRS. : What -- I'm sorry?
Q What did you say yesterday? What is the question you believe you answered?
MRS. : I think she asked me if --
Q (Off mike) --
MRS. : -- yes or no. (Laughter.) I think that's what it came down to, and I said yes. (Laughter.) So we're engaged. (Laughter.)
(Laughs.) ately, this election will be
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which two."
: Yes.
KING: Has society accepted this more?
: I think so. And I know that as I travel around New York, I meet so many people who are products of the foster care system themselves, who are adopted, who are adoptive parents.
You know, I was just yesterday at Central High School out on Long Island, and I was having a town hall meeting at the high school about education. We talked about everything -- you know, overcrowding, and qualified teachers and the kinds of courses kids have to take, and then a young man stood up, and he said he was in the foster care system, and he wanted to know what would happen to him when he graduated from high school, and I was so pleased I could tell him that we changed the law last session of Congress. It was a bipartisan effort, so that we could continue to provide support services.
You know, it used to be, Larry, that when a child aged out of foster care, either on his 18th birthday or when he graduated from high school, whichever came first, there would be literally a knock on the door of his foster home or his group home, and there would be somebody standing there with a big old black garbage bag, and the kid would be told to put his belongings in it because he was moving. Well, we've now changed that, and I want to thank people on both sides of the aisle. You know, we have brought together some unlikely allies. I worked with the late John Chafee, a wonderful man who was very devoted to kids, and in the House, I worked with Tom DeLay, who doesn't have the same views on a lot of things I do, but cares about foster kids and adoption. So I think there's a growing public awareness and acceptance, and there is now more support for people willing to adopt. And I hing, , do minorities have a unities, particularly African-
A of good job of fostering c so much, Larry.
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>>6568486
>Then it's all gravy!

Ew. Who puts gravy on Cheerios?
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Great work!
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>>6568253
No, not at all, in any regard.

But that doesn't mean you should give up.
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KING: , the first lady of the United States.
Our panel of Marie Osmond, Valerie Harper, Donna Mills, Nell Carter, Dave Thomas and the director of his foundation joins us right after this.
NEWS BRIEFING ON MEDICATING CHILDREN WITH EMOTIONAL AND BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS, 3/20/2000
LOCATION: WASHINGTON, D.C.
RODHAM DELIVERS REMARKS ON MEDICATING CHILDREN WITH EMOTIONAL AND BEHAVIORAL CONDITIONS
MARCH 20, 2000
: Thank you all for joining us here this morning and I want to thank Secretary Shalala for her leadership and I'm also pleased she refuses to sit still...
(LAUGHTER)
... because whenever our children's health is at stake, she's out there, working very hard to make sure that we all pay attention.
I also am pleased to be joined not only by Secretary Shalala but by Surgeon General David Satcher and FDA Director Jane Haney and NIMH commissioner Dr. Steve Himan (ph), and Dr. Judith Human (ph), representatives from many of the groups who are on the front-lines working on behalf of all of our children and particularly children with behavioral and emotional challenges.
We just came from a meeting where we talked about what more we can do to ensure that children with emotional and behavioral problems get the diagnosis and treatment they need and when they need it.
: Today's meeting and the announcements around it are important steps, but they're certainly not the last step that we need to take in meeting the goal of ensuring that all of our children get the help, and support and treatment that they deserve.


You know, when a child comes to us who is hurt or sick, there is nothing more terrifying for any of us, especially parents, when we don't know how to make it better. If they have a broken arm, we want to fix it. If they have a deadly disease, we want to do everything we possibly can to cure it. And it's no different if the problem they bring to lies in their head or their heart.
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I'd be more than happy to work with an anon on updating the CC section of the ThreadJournal
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>>6568486
If he's doomed then at least he has a backup skunket. But who knows, Hugh now has a very cute and responsible badger figure in his life at an early age, perhaps things will go better.
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seriously as physical illness. More and more often, those treatments include drugs, and even for young children. And that is the issue we are here today to discuss.
As many of you know, the Journal of the American Medical Association recently reported that the number of preschools who are taking psychotropic drugs increased dramatically from 1991 to 1995. We know that the increase for Ritalin alone was 150 percent, and the use of antidepressants increased over 200 percent.
Now I am no doctor, as is obvious, but I am a parent and I have been a long time children's advocate, and these findings concern me. And I know that they concern Dr. Hime (ph) and Secretary Shalala, and countless other experts.
But let me be very clear, we are not here to bash the use of these medications. They have literally been a God-send for countless adults and young people with behavioral and emotional problems. We know that when children with such problems are left untreated, they may fail to reach their full God-given potential later in their lives.
: That's we are here. We want the best information for every parent, every doctor, every teacher, every single person who cares for our children.
But we do have to ask some serious questions about the use of prescription drugs in all children. We have to ask, for example, how are we diagnosing, treating and caring for children with behavioral and emotional conditions. Do we have the best tools to make the most accurate diagnoses?
When it comes to drug treatments for children, why are we seeing such great variations by community and race? And what effects do over-use and under-use of these medications have on our children?
We need to ask also: Why aren't we doing a better job of combining drugs when necessary with family therapy and other behavior modifications? And what about the effects on our very youngest children who haven't been
past few years to ensure that drugs are being tested and labeled
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In so doing, we have learned that finding the right prescription for a child is not always just a matter of decreasing the dosage.
You know, I think it's important that all of us as adults recognize that children are not just miniature adults, that their systems, their developmental needs, are different from that of an adult.
: We also learned quite a bit from the first-ever surgeon general's report on mental illness, which came out in December; it grew out of the White House conference on mental illness lead by Tipper Gore. And it taught us that the stigma of mental illness is often worse for children; that too many health care professionals lack training in the area of children's mental, emotional, and behavioral needs; and that we have a long way to go to increase awareness about children's mental health.
So clearly we must do more. We know the questions being raised are very difficult, and they cannot be answered overnight. And they certainly won't be answered by the government or health care professionals or educators or parents acting alone. Every single person with a stake in our children's health has an important role to play.
So I'm very pleased today to announce some of the immediate steps we are taking to make sure that children with mental illness, with emotional and behavioral problems, get the right care at the right time.
As our meeting made clear, we already know a lot about the proper diagnosis and treatment of emotional and behavioral problems in children. But that critical information has not reached many of the people who need it most: Many of the parents, many of the teachers, many of the school nurses, many of the school's social workers, many of the family physicians, many of the pediatricians. So there are a few things that we're going to do to try to change that.
Today the NIMH is releasing a new easy to understand
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>>6568491
I do love the bun boi, thank you pretty line maker!
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children with mental illness, with emotional and behavioral problems, get the right care at the right time.
As our meeting made clear, we already know a lot about the proper diagnosis and treatment of emotional and behavioral problems in children. But that critical information has not reached many of the people who need it most: Many of the parents, many of the teachers, many of the school nurses, many of the school's social workers, many of the family physicians, many of the pediatricians. So there are a few things that we're going to do to try to change that.
Today the NIMH is releasing a new easy to understand fact sheet that parents can use to make the right decisions about their children's treatment for these conditions. The Education Department will soon release a information kit to help parents and teachers better care for children with ADHD. And I want to thank both the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Academy of Family Physicians for all they are doing on this issue.
This spring and fall, the American Academy of Pediatrics will give all of their 55,000 members up-to-date guidelines for diagnosing and treating children with emotional and behavioral problems.
: And as part of their year-long focus on mental health, the American Academy of Family Physicians is sponsoring continuing education courses about these conditions for their 90,000 members.
But now we also have to admit, honestly, that there are some areas where we still just don't know enough. And that's especially true when it comes to giving prescription drugs to our very youngest children. I am pleased that NIMH will dedicate over $5 million to conduct a landmark study examining ADHD and Ritalin use in pre- schoolers.
This study will look at the gap between what we are finding out in the science labs and what is happening in clinical practice so we can ensure that our children get the care they need. ri ent of children with behavioral and mental disorders. It w
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dosage levels are appropriate for very young children. This information will then be included on the labels of these medications. And the studies on them will address the obvious ethical issues that arise when you examine the use of prescription drugs in such a vulnerable group.
Finally, I am delighted that this fall the office of the surgeon general will coordinate a national conference for the treatment of children with behavioral and mental disorders. It will bring together experts from the administration, parents, advocates, educators, researchers, health care professionals and consumers.
It will look at the challenges we are all still facing in caring for children with mental illnesses. And it will help us develop long- term strategies that each of us can use to help young people get the childhoods and chance in life they all deserve.
I remember, as we were talking today, that I was fortunate more than 30 years ago to work at the Yale Child Study Center, one of the premiere research institutions in our country when it comes to treating young children.
And I was exposed to some of the greatest minds and experts in the country about how to treat very young children.
: And there is nothing more challenging and in many ways heartbreaking than a preschooler with obvious mental, emotional and behavioral problems. That child cannot speak for him or herself. It's often difficult to find out what kind of conditions in the child's life led to -- if there was a cause and effect -- the kind of behavior that is being observed.
So I know firsthand from 30 years of work on my own behalf, and watching experts who really are on the front-lines of this, that this a very big challenge we're taking on today.
But I'm also concerned that we are seeing increasing numbers of children who are both being diagnosed with certain disorders and whose behaviors are crying out for helpful est growing group of n at large.
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for a very long time. for either one of us. And I my daughter will be surprised.
Q Mrs. --
Q What do you think about the fact that most New Yorkers, 53 percent, don't want you to run for the Senate? What do you think about that, and how do you plan to win them over?
MRS. : I don't pay attention t
Q What do you make of the fact --
Q -- question. When you will announce a campaign manager? And B, will your husband campaign for you, and do you want him to campaign for you in New York?
MRS. : Well, the answer to the first question is in the next couple of weeks we will announce a campaign manager, but again, I think that that's something that most people aren't very concerned about. They don't vote for a candidate based on who the campaign manager is. And would I want my husband to campaign for me? Absolutely. I think he has been a great president for New York and for the country and the progress that we've made in the last seven years is progress that I think has been good for the people of New York, and he would say -- and I agree with this, and I'll be talking about it in the campaign -- we have unfinished business. So I want to build on the progress.
I want not only to do what I think will make a difference positively for people in this state, but I want to be able to prevent the u-turn that the Republicans are always trying to make, you know -- to give up on the investments, to try to undercut education or health care or the environment; turn their backs on solving the Social Security and Medicare challenges. So I think that he has a lot to say about that. He has a proven track record that's been good for this state, so I would look forward to that, you know, later in the campaign at some point.
Q Do you want Al Gore to campaign for you?
MRS. : Absolutely. Absolutely.
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>>6568523
But anon, he's barely a badger.

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>>6568530
But if you don't matter, why give up? Keep going. No reason not to.
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peace go.
And I think all of us should be supportive of that process.
Now, I know that there were some here in New York who wished that I had, you know, created some sort of international incident when I was abroad. But that would not be useful for the peace process or for the prime minister's position. And I greatly appreciated the prime minister saying that my visit to Israel had been a success and that what I had done there had furthered the peace process, because at the end of the day, I believe, along with Prime Minister Barak, along with Prime Minister Rabin, along with the leaders and the people of Israel, that a peace that can be enforced is the strategic option that is in the best interests for Israel's security. And that's what we ought to be looking to support.
Q Mrs. , you were asked a similar question about the status of Jerusalem recently. And you also declined to answer it because you -- on the same grounds -- that it would damage the peace process. But in July, you didn't shy away from writing a letter to the Orthodox Union on your preferences and such.
MRS. : Right.
Q If it wasn't -- if it's not appropriate now to have a position on that, why was it appropriate then?
MRS. : Well, I have the same position. You know, my position is that Jerusalem, an undivided Jerusalem, is and should be the capital of Israel, but that is also to be negotiated between the parties. So I have personal opinions that -- I hold and that I believe are in the interests of Israel and Israel's security and the peace process.
But you know, when the parties met recently in O ou clarify this for us? When she was making her inflammatory statement, was the translation such that you understood what she meant, and you were the first lady so you kept your cool
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know, the Republicans started running soft money ads against me last summer.
And they ran, actually, two sets of ads -- one from the Republican National Committee and one from a so-called independent committee and then the started another ad against me using soft money, just yesterday. So, you know, we've seen a lot of soft money ads that they started and that they are continuing.
The Democratic Party here in the state of New York cares a lot about these issues, and when the Giuliani campaign started running ads in upstate New York, the Democratic party believed that it was important for them to speak out on behalf of issues that I support, on behalf of issues that all Democrats support. And I think that, you know, that's something that is within the law as it currently is written, and I believe we ought to change the law, but certainly they were doing it first and with great vigor and none of us want to see the issues get a one-sided perspective.
So that was the decision they made.
Q (Off mike.)
MRS. : Well, look, there's a lot of things you don't believe in that you wish weren't the case. Like, I don't believe that we should have the kind of television advertising driving campaigns in the first place. I don't think it's good for our democracy. Does that mean I'm not going to advertise on television? Well, that would not be a wise decision to make. I believe we ought to have, you know, more public financing of campaigns. We don't have it yet. Does that mean I shouldn't raise money?
You know, these are -- these are difficult issue, but from my perspective, we're going to need to be as competitive as possible, because the other side has always -- and will continue into the futur ington and a lot of other states in sending a woman to the Senate.
Q Do you have any thoughts about why that might be?
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that we elect a Democrat to succeed Daniel Patrick Moynihan in the United States Senate. (Applause.) And just remember these three brief reasons why it's important we do that.
Number one, we do not need any more Republicans in the United States Senate, we have too many as it is. (Applause.) They have stood in the way of the progress that has been made and we have to continue to stand up to them and their agenda, that would be so counterproductive and send us in a u-turn back to the 1980s, with exploding deficits and disinvestment.
Number two, there are very big differences between Republicans and Democrats in this state and elsewhere. If we want to continue the fiscal policies that have worked, we need a Democrat in the Senate. If we want to support public education, we need a Democrat in the Senate. If we want to guarantee a woman's right to choose, we need a Democrat in the Senate. (Applause.)
And you all know that in order to get anything done in the Senate, it takes teamwork. It takes people who are willing to work together to get something accomplished for their state and the people they represent. And if you go to the Senate and you disagree with a fellow senator -- you can ask the Vice President, he was there working so hard and effectively for all those years -- you can't sue or fire your colleague, you have to get along with them and keep working with them to get things done for the people you represent. (Applause.)
So there are many reasons why we should celebrate tonight. But we cannot rest until we make sure that we put Al Gore in the White House, we do everything we can to put Democrats in the majority in the House and in the Senate.
Now, none of this would be possible this evening, we could not have raised the money that's been
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Now, none of this would be possible this evening, we could not have raised the money that's been raised, the report that Ed gave about how well we're doing, if this administration had not kept faith with you, had not demonstrated how worthy your investment in and Al Gore was.
And none of that would have been possible if we hadn't elected someone to be President who understood where the country needed to go, who had the commitment to making the tough political decisions that would really make it possible for us to be enjoying and celebrating this moment, and I am very proud that this administration has such a record of accomplishment.
And it's my great honor, and personal privilege, to introduce the person who really has made it all possible, the President of the United States, . (Applause.)

“CNN Live Event/Special,” CNN, 4/26/2000
WOLF BLITZER, HOST: She's the first lady of the United States.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
RODHAM (D), NEW YORK SENATE CANDIDATE: We do not need anymore Republicans in the United States Senate. We have too many as it is.


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BLITZER: He's the mayor of New York City.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI (R), NEW YORK: I think I've turned the city in the direction that you agree with, and I'm going to be doing that same thing for the state of New York.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLITZER: Short of a presidential race, their battle for the United States Senate may be the most watched political contest in U.S. history.
Tonight, the first nationally televised town meeting of the New York Senate race: Rodham faces the voters of New York.
ANNOUNCER: Live from the University of Buffalo, "The New York Senate Race: A LATE EDITION Town Meeting." Now, here's CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
BLITZER: Good evening and welcome to this town meeting, sponsored by CNN and the University of Buffalo.
We're here in the Katharine Cornell Theater on the u milar meeting down the road.
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especially in my official capacity, being someone who tries to score political points at the expense of the job I was there to do and the position I was in. And so I did what I believed was the appropriate thing to do and then left. And then when the reports started coming out about a much -- much harsher and more offensive, outrageous translation being made available, you know, I was very concerned about that and issued the statement, and then, you know, talked with the press that was traveling with me.
Q Mrs. , were you at all surprised at the level of criticism that rose up about your handling of the Arafat moment, the criticism that arose here? Were you surprised by that?
MRS. : Well, I think there were people who believed that I should have caused an international incident over whatever it is she said. I just respectfully disagree with that. And I knew that there were people who thought that I could have scored political points for myself in New York by, you know, doing something that would cause such an incident. I did not think that was the right thing to do. And so I chose to fulfill my obligations and to behave in what I saw as an appropriate manner for the role that I was in there at that time. And, you know, I know that there are people who disagree with that. And I would just say to them that, you know, I had to make a call based on why I was there and how I was proceeding, and I did. That doesn't take anything away from my commitment to standing very strongly on behalf of what are the best interests of Israel for long- term peace and security.
Q Is Rudy Giuliani one of those people?
Q In 1980 --
MRS. : Yes?
Q In 1980 your husband got -- in 1996 your husband got 80 percent of the Jewish vote. A poll last week showed you with 46 percent. That's 13 points less than Bob Abrams lost w
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Definitely. Part of the reason i like Shadowrun. 80's era cyberpunk made into an entire world.
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to improve education and expand health care, and those are the concerns of my lifetime. And as I've visited with now thousands of New Yorkers, those are the concerns that people talk to me about. And I'd like to take those concerns and the work that I've done and the passion I feel about them to the Senate and work on behalf of the children and families of New York.
To me, it's a commitment to continue a life's work and to put it to work for people who I think are concerned about the same matters that most of us worry about: the kind of futures we're going to have, especially for our children.
BLITZER: And if you don't win this race, will you stay in New York state?
: Oh, absolutely. You know, I had planned on living in New York after the White House years. and I talked about that, because for me it's always been something that I've wanted to do.
Now, I didn't think I'd be running for the Senate when I first started thinking about it. But when I was invited to consider it and when I talked to so many New Yorkers and really thought that if New Yorkers wanted me to, I would work my heart out for them, and I intend to make this my home.
BLITZER: Let's talk a little bit about an issue that is in the news right now, the Elian Gonzalez case. You've always been an advocate of children, yet this child -- and a lot of Cuban-Americans firmly believe this in their heart and many other Americans believe it as well -- this child if forced to go back to Cuba, this 6-year-old, will forever be a pawn, if you will, of Fidel Castro, a propaganda tool, sit on Fidel Castro's lap. He will never have a normal life in Cuba.
Is this what you want for this little boy?
: Well, you know, Wolf, I have ever since I was in law school been a children's advocate. I have h this primarily as a mother and as a child advocate, and I try to keep my ngs with his remaining parent. I think
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SNOW: Rodham has announced that she intends to run for the New York Senate seat and will make an official announcement some time in January. Our FOX NEWS correspondent Molly Falconer talked to Mrs. one on one about her announcement.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
FALCONER: Mrs. , thank you for being here. Since you said today you intend to run, are you leaving some sort of loophole there?
: No.
(LAUGHTER)
: No. I am going to run, and I'm looking forward to it. I'm very excited about what I think the issues that are on the minds of New Yorkers are and what I can contribute to a campaign about those issues. And I'll have a formal announcement after the first of the year, but I'm running.
FALCONER: Some say you and Rudy Giuliani are very colorful characters, and they also say this could be an expensive, nasty race, the nastiest ever. What do you think about that?
: Well, I hope not. I'm really hoping that this campaign's going to be about issues because that's what really counts. You know, I care deeply about whether or not we have better schools for every child and whether we have affordable, quality health care for every family in New York, and whether this economy keeps going and spreads its prosperity to everybody in every corner of the state.
And those are the kinds of issues that people talk to me about, and those are the issues that I'm going to be talking about. I hope it's going to be an issue-oriented campaign because come next November, when people go to vote, I hope they're going to be voting for themselves and their futures on these issues.
FALCONER: Now, you said you're going to ratchet back your activities as first lady at the beginning of the year, but you are first lady.
: Right.
FALCONER: So when a voter goes to the polls and looks down at the ballot, there's going to be your name under "Democrat"?
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Do not bully badgers! They are wholesome and lovable creatures, majestic even.
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And I know these are very tough issues for a lot of people to think about. I don't have any liking for Fidel Castro or for the Cuban government. I deplore their denial of human rights and the mistreatment of so many people who have fled in order to find freedom in our country.
But on the balance, I think this child belongs with his remaining parent. I think that that is what is in his best interests. And I hope that this reunited family can really work to make sure that he overcomes the trauma of losing his mother, the incredible media circus that he's been part of for the last five months, the political exploitation he's been subjected to by people on all sides of the political spectrum.
I think he deserves the chance to be with his father, and I hope that, you know, we can make the right decision for him as expeditiously as possible.
BLITZER: Would it be appropriate for you, for the president to encourage Juan Miguel Gonzalez, his father, to remain in the United States with Elian?
: Well, of course, I think that that's his decision to make. I believe if he were to express such an interest, he's got lawyers and others who represent him who meet with him. Certainly, if that were to come to the attention, I know that people would be more than happy to accommodate that.
But I think that we have to let it be his decision. And I hope that this taste of freedom and the opportunity to be with his son and to have this time perhaps would lead to that. But at the end of the day, this has to be the father's decision, just as we would want it to be your decision, you know, if heaven forbid, something, you know, were to happen and you had been in some way deprived of your child.
And I just think we have to respect the family bonds and we have to do more than give lip moment, but on the tactics that were used, the heavily armed force that went in Saturday morning to seize Elian -- we've all he rule o d. So of course, we wish that it
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want to thank Ellen Lovell (sp) and the members of our Millennial Council, and Terry McAuliffe and all those who made it possible for us to have all these wonderful events today. (Applause.)
I also want to thank the Lord for this wonderful weather -- (laughter, applause) -- so we all feel good being out here.
The New Millennium Choir sang "Rising Like the Sun." Their vitality and their voices are living proof that the light may be fading on the 20th century, but the sun is still rising on America.
Even though this is an opening ceremony, what we celebrate did not begin today, and it won't end tomorrow.
Two years ago and I created the White House Millennium Council to bring Americans together, in her words, "to honor our past and imagine our future." Since then, she has hosted Millennium Evenings at the White House with some of our nation's most gifted scholars and artists, and people all over the world have participated on the Internet. She has crisscrossed America to save our historical treasures, from Harriet Tubman's home to Thomas Edison's factory, to Native American pueblos.
This morning we kick off not only a weekend of celebrations, but a whole series of events throughout the coming year that will further mark our new millennium.
This is more than a unique moment for our calendar; it is also a unique moment for our country.
Our economy is strong, our social fabric is on the mend. We are moving forward on America's remarkable journey of creating a more unified nation, a more just society, a more perfect union.
There is no better moment to reflect on our hopes and dreams and the gifts we want to leave our children; no better opportunity to open a new chapter of progress an person who has done more than anyone else in America to help us appreciate and properly celebrate the dawn of the new millennium. Ladies and gentlemen, the first lady of the United States. (Applause, cheers.)
MRS. : Good morning! (Continued applause.) Thank you all for being here this
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town.
QUESTION: My name is Jill (UNINTELLIGIBLE). I grew up in Buffalo, New York.
I'm concerned about the fact that young people feel they need to leave Western New York in order to find good jobs, and I was wondering if you might have some ideas about how to reverse that trend.
: I'm concerned about that too, and I have given a lot of thought to it and I've talked with so many people here in Western New York, and I have some ideas about it, because I think that we have to look at the obstacles to economic growth here in upstate New York, particularly in Western New York, and we have to attack those obstacles. And then we also have to look at the opportunities.
And let me start with the obstacles, because there are reasons why we haven't been able to keep and attract businesses and grow the economy here the way that we should. We have a very high rate of state and local taxes. You know, the state and local tax burden on those of us who live in New York is the second-highest in the entire country. We have among the highest utility and power costs in the entire country.
I've been in businesses here in Western New York, in manufacturing facilities as well as other businesses, that have told me that they could move across the state line to Ohio or Pennsylvania and cut their utility costs by a third to a half.
And we also do not have adequate transportation, either road transportation, or airfares are too high, so we don't have adequate airport transportation. So those are some of the obstacles that I would like to work on.
Now I can't directory as a senator deal with the high state and local taxation, but as a citizen I'm concerned about it. But as a senator, I would fight to make sure that New York got its fair share of federal dollars, which would us bring more money back to the state, which now sends $15 ion more to Washington than
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Applause.)
I particularly thank Mayor Williams and the city of Washington for the extraordinary effort they've put into making this celebration one that is accessible and free to all of the residents of the greater D.C. area. And I thank the members of the President's Cabinet who are joining us.
There are many distinguished guests in this vast audience, including some of our team leaders for our explorations in space, which is one of the ways we imagine the future. I know that Donna Shirley is here, who led the team that landed the Rover on Mars, and at least two astronauts, Roger Crouch and Wendy Lawrence. They will all be speaking later today at the National Air and Space Museum, to which you are invited. And I thank the various AmeriCorps volunteer teams who are helping us this weekend. (Applause.)
So to everyone who, under the leadership of Ellen Lovell (sp) and the White House Millennium Council, have made these days and this event possible, we appreciate all of your efforts.
Now just think for a minute of the items, the events, and the ideas of this century that you would put into a time capsule that you think would really represent the United States and the American century -- a transistor, Louie Armstrong's trumpet, a piece of the Berlin Wall. Take any of these items, and it alone could tell a story of the 20th century.
It was, after all, the transistor that launched the information age and enabled man to walk on the moon. It was Satchmo's trumpet that heralded the rise of jazz and of American music all over the worl nd AIDS, an end to hunger and racism. I was also impressed by how children were determined to shape the future for themselves. "Helping others is at the
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federal taxes across the board by a lot more. Now, during a time of affluence, when the economy is strong right now, why not give the American people, the people of New York state, people here in Western New York more of their money that they give to Washington? Why not reduce significantly the tax burden at this point?
: Well, I favor middle class targeted tax cuts. I favor easing the marriage penalty. I think we should promote marriage, not penalize it. I favor making college tuition tax deductible so that more families can afford to send their children to a wonderful university like this. I favor long-term tax credit for care that people give to their loved ones who they take in and care for in their homes.
So I think that we can afford the kind of middle class targeted tax cuts that would make a difference. But I do not believe it is in our interests as a country to go back to the days of exploding deficits with the kind of very large, across-the-board tax cuts that my opponent and the presidential candidate on the Republican side advocate.
I would rather see us continue the policy of fiscal discipline and responsibility that brought us to this point, and to use the surpluses that we have built up to do several things: to deal with Social Security and to pay down the debt, to add a prescription drug benefit to Medicare, to provide the middle class targeted tax cuts, which we can afford, to expand coverage for health care for people. And I would take the entire Social Security surplus, and to use it to pay down the national debt, and to reform and modernize and strengthen Social Security, to extend its lifetime. And I would take the non- Social Security surplus and use about 40 percent of it to similarly pay down the debt, and the remainder to put that prescription drug benefit on Medicare, do the targeted tax cuts, se
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Throughout the weekend, the president and I invite you to visit the capital and to enjoy the various programs at the Smithsonian, from symposia on great Americans of the past and present -- Thomas Jefferson, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and B.B. King -- to sessions pondering the future of American taste and the future of American democracy. And we invite you to take your children to the story circle at the National Museum of American History. And of course, you are all invited to come to the Lincoln Memorial tonight to join us in a national celebration of America's Millennium.
But by no means will the celebration end at the stroke of midnight tonight. Throughout this millennial year, the White House Millennium Council will lead even more efforts to honor the past and imagine the future. We will continue to recruit more citizens to work together to save America's treasures, whether it's the home of a great American, such as Harriet Tubman, or letters from a soldier in wartime, or a family scrapbook that may just be sitting in the attic somewhere. We will continue to open new millennium trails in our most scenic parks and historic sites. And through the Millennium Green Program, we hope to inspire every single American to plant a tree for future generations to enjoy. And through the National Endowment for the Humanities project My History Is America's History, we hope to help every child in America value their own family histories and honor our nation's immigrant past and present.
This of one of the greatest scientific breakthroughs of all history, but of our commitment al weekend and the millennial year to come a time for thanksgiving, each one of us will be able to do as the president suggested -- not merely to think
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am going to serve my six-year term as senator. I owe it to the people of New York. I'm working hard to earn the trust and the votes of New Yorkers. And I want to help make things in the state. That's really what motivates me.
You know, I've been involved in public service for more than 30 years. I've never run for office before. But what I'd like to do is to bring people together to solve problems.
And I know that the upstate economy and the economy in Western New York, that we can make the changes together, the public and private sector, everybody working to do what needs to be done. I've seen that. When I was here on February 7th, I met three young graduates of this university who started a dot,com company. And they went from their three selves to employing about 65 people.
They had $60,000-a-year jobs they couldn't fill because we don't have the emphasis on matching the skills with the jobs, and keeping people who graduate from this university and others here. I want to be somebody who helps make that happen.
BLITZER: All right. Let's take another question from the audience.
QUESTION: Good evening, Mrs. . I'm Judge Frank Caruso (ph) from the town of Tonawanda, and my question is, with the number of school shootings that have happening across the country, and most recently the shooting at the National Zoo, how would you address the issue of teen violence in our country?
: Well, judge, I think there are several things we have to do, and I hear from parents and students all over the state about their fears and concerns about gun violence. And you know, it's really well-placed, because we lose about 13 children a day to gun violence, accidental or deliberate.
I think we have to do more to keep guns out of the hands of children and criminals and people who are unable to exercise responsibility. That's why I support the sensible gun safety pport and services that children wh
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>>6568550
I feel the opposite.

If I don't matter then I have no reason to go on.

I know 4chan's not the place to go for validation or asspats and I'm an autist for asking if I matter on a Norwegian soil tilling board, but I was hoping for

Fuck it. You're right. I don't matter.
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think it's time to go to the White House after that attempt at humor. President and his normal Saturday morning radio address. A television camera has been allowed to be in this morning. And he is joined by his wife, Rodham , as the two of them talk to the nation on this first day of the new year on this first day of the new millennium.
President : Good morning, and happy new year, or we should say happy new millennium. Last night, and I joined thousands of Americans in the National Mall to bid farewell to the remarkable century just passed and to welcome the new millennium. The feelings of goodwill and hope that overcame us all will be among our most treasured memories, and we're deeply grateful that the celebrations were both jubilant and peaceful, here and all around the world.


Ms. RODHAM : But our celebration didn't just begin at the stroke of midnight, nor will it end today. Two years ago, the president and I launched the White House Millennium Project to inspire all Americans to reflect on where we have been as a nation, who we are, and what we want to be, a project to honor the past and imagine the future. I've traveled all across our country, encouraging citizens and communities to think of the gifts that America can give to the future, whether it's saving our historic treasures, such as the Declaration of Independence, or Thomas Edison's invention factory, or the Pueblos of the ests and protect our values in this new, interconnected world, America clearly must remain engaged. We must help to shape events and not be shaped by them.
Mrs. : Yet it is not just by our exertions abroad, but by the example we set here at home that we can influence the world for the better. For in the new millennium, the world will be looking to America for
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>>6568588
They can be, yes.
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civilized societies do anywhere in the world.
Certainly, the access to guns turns, you know, what used to be arguments on the playground sometimes into deadly gun fights, and that is a real problem for us. But I also think we have to look hard at whether we are providing the kinds of support and services that children who are depressed or who have other kinds of emotional or behavioral problems need. We're not taking seriously enough some of the cries for help and attention that kids give. If you look at some of the school shooters, they said things that should have been a big light flashing for all of us. They said that they wanted to kill somebody, they wanted to kill themselves. We as parents, as teachers, as judges, as police officers, we have to be very alert and we have to have more services to try to intervene and prevent a child's problems from becoming violent. I also think that we have to do more to provide family support and good values. You know, a family is a child's first school, a child's first teachers are the parents, and we have to help our children learn how to control themselves and to empathize with one another. That should start in the home, but I think there are some programs that I've seen in schools around the state that would work also, having conflict resolution and mediation to try to help youngsters deal with their problems besides resorting to violence.
And finally, I just think that parents have to exercise a lot of parental authority over the kinds of media that their children watch at young ages. I just don't think that it's good for our children to see so much violence as a steady diet, and every time I say this it's inevitable that, you know, somebody about the age of my daughter says, well, you know, I now all the reasons why some which I would try to work i don't really disagree, he supports significant gun control,
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influence the world for the better. For in the new millennium, the world will be looking to America for leadership in meeting our great common challenges. If we in America can extend prosperity to people and places in this country that have not yet felt it, then perhaps the global economy can bring a better life to the 1.4 ion people who live on less than one dollar a day. If we in America can provide all of our children with a world-class education, then perhaps it will be possible in the not too distant future for every child in the world to have a good education. And if we can build one America and make our diversity our greatest strength, then perhaps other nations will see the advantage of working to overcome their own ethnic and religious tensions.
President : We begin the 21st century well poised to be that guiding light. Seldom in our history, and never in my lifetime, has our nation enjoyed such a combination of widespread economic success, social solidarity, and national self-confidence without an internal crisis or an overarching external threat. Never has the openness and dynamism of our society been more emulated by other countries. Never have our values of freedom, democracy, and opportunity been more ascendant in the world. Nearly 55 years ago, President Franklin Roosevelt said that 'We cannot live alone at peace. Our own well-being is dependent on the well-being of other nations far away. And therefore, that we must be citizens of the world, members of the human community.' I believe his words will prove even truer in the 21st century. With America fulfilling our ideals and responsibilities, we can make this new century a time of unprecedented peace, freedom, and prosperity for our people and for all the citizens of the world. Thank you, happy new year, and God ble
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nd being New Yorkers, and we'll leave that to another time.
QUESTION: Mr. President, are you going to Lazard Freres?
WILLIAM J. , PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: No. No, I keep reading all these things. I've not given very much thought to this. I'm going to work very hard on finishing my library and center, and I'm going to devote all my attention being president. I've got a lot -- a big agenda this year.
We're going back now, and I have to go back to Shepherdstown this afternoon. But I've had no discussions with anybody about that kind of move. And I was amazed to see that in the paper. No one's even suggested that.
QUESTION: Mr. President, last night the vice president debates said the Hill asked military commanders about their feelings on gays serving in the military before appointing people to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Is this litmus test the way it should work?
: Well, I think the real problem is -- let me go back to what happened, because as you know my view was, and I will restate my view, the Uniform Code of Military Justice prohibits homosexual contacts. So my view was if someone was willing to take the pledge to observe the Uniform Code of Military Justice, they shouldn't have to lie about being gay and being in the military.
Then let me remind you what happened. The Congress voted by a veto-proof majority against that position. So that's how we got to "don't ask, don't tell." My focus has been on trying to make the policy work the way the military commanders said it would work back in 1993, which it has not been doing. No one disputes that.
To Secretary Cohen's credit, back in August he announced some new guidelines which have now been implemented for training and for implementation, which I think will significantly improve the present situation over the next few months.
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practically infanticide. Do you agree with Senator Moynihan?
: You know, I have always been a very strong pro-choice advocate. I believe that a woman's right to choose is protected by our Constitution. I have also said that there is a way, and the president and the Democratic leadership in Congress have proposed a piece of legislation that would ban late-term abortions, except in instances to save the life of the mother or to prevent serious harm to the health of the mother. That is a position I could support, but the Republican leadership will not let that piece of legislation come to the floor for a vote. They would rather, in my view, play politics with this incredibly sensitive and difficult issue, which I really regret.
So I would like to see us do everything we can to protect the life and the health of the mother, and of course I'm a very strong supporter and have been for many years of adoption, and foster care and the changes that we need to make to make sure every child has a safe and loving home, and I would continue to work on that as well.
BLITZER: Mrs. , like gun control, on this issue of abortion, there is no difference between you and Mayor Giuliani, on other issues, affirmative action, gay rights, you agree as well. What is the biggest policy difference there is between you and Rudy Giuliani?
: Well, there are a number of them, Wolf.
BLITZER: Just give us the biggest one.
: The biggest is probably his support of the very large, across-the-board, in my view, risky and irresponsible tax cuts. He also supports vouchers for public education, which I reject. He would be against the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which I would vote to ratify. He is not for a patient's of rights that includes the right of people to sue their HMOs, and e of mine, but I think opposite of vi nella, Rochester, New Yo can you help us? How can you
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>>6568599
What's a nio?
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and '93. In order to do that, the Congress will have to change the law, I believe. I don't think that the military and the president have the authority to do it. Now you could go back and look at the constitutional arguments...
KAGAN: We've been listening to comments from President and Mrs. . This turned into a kind of an impromptu news conference, making their comments from outside their new house in Chappaqua, New York.

FIRST LADY RODHAM DELIVERS REMARKS AT THE RAINBOW/PUSH COALITION CONFERENCE, 1/12/2000
LOCATION: NEW YORK CITY
: Thank you very much, Reverend Jackson.
You know, you can believe nearly everything Reverend Jackson tells you.
(LAUGHTER)
But I do have to take just a moment to set the record straight. When we met, we were both children.
(LAUGHTER)
That was so long ago, neither of us can even remember that far back. But it has been 25 or 30 years of friendship, good natured ribbing, commitment to the same goals and aspirations for the country that we both love so much.
I'm delighted to be here with Percy Sutton (ph), who has been an example for so many people throughout New York and America, and whose grace...

(APPLAUSE)
... and wisdom still influence us all.
I want to thank Secretary Summers for being here. I think when the history of the last 10 years is written, the role that Secretary Summers and his predecessors, Secretary Rubin and Secretary Benson, played in bringing the Treasury Department into the full agenda of opportunity is one that will be marked as extraordinarily important.
And Secretary Summers has gone places where other treasury secretaries have not gone before and has taken up the battle for equal access to capital and opportunity
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teachers, doctors and nurses, would probably cover the needs of most of our students, which I think would be a great step forward.
BLITZER: All right. Let's take another question, please.
Please, go ahead.
QUESTION: Hi, Ms. , my name is Betsy Snyder, and I'm from the West Winfield (ph) area near Utica, New York, and I'm a third-year law student here at UB.
From my area in Central New York, the backbone of our economy is farming. And presently, many farmers are having a problem in passing down their farms to their children to carry, due to detrimental tax consequences. What do you suggest that you could do to help family farmers pass onto children, as well as small family business owners facing similar problems?
: Well, that's the announcement that I made this morning when I was on the dairy farm in Wyoming County, because I have heard about this from farmers and small business people all over the state. I believe that we should raise the exemption for the inheritance tax to $1.75 million, and I also believe that we ought to increase the unified credit to a million dollars, because there are many family farms that cannot afford the estate taxes that are currently levied. I don't think we can afford in our balanced budget to go as far as the Republicans do, but I think that based on all my conversations, that we have do more to remove this burden so that families that have worked hard to build up a farm -- like the farm I was on today fourth generation, and the fifth generation is waiting in line to take over -- they'll be able to do that, so I hope that that will help.
Because you're right, a lot of people don't know
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the lack of equal opportunity for access to capital and for jobs is one of the unfinished pieces of business from the last century that we carry with us into this new one.
One of the lines that is not often quoted from Dr. King's memorable speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial is the following. He said, "We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity in this nation." Those vaults of opportunity are slowly but surely being pried open, but they need to open much faster, if we are to keep faith...
(APPLAUSE)
... with the talents and the skills of Americans from every walk of life.
: Those vaults of opportunity are fuller than ever. But their prizes are not reaching all who need them.
So, I hope that all of us gathered here today and through the rest of this conference will work to keep faith with Dr. King's words and do all that we can in the public and private and philanthropic sectors to make sure those vaults of opportunity are opened as wide as possible.
I want to thank Reverend Jackson and all who work with him on this Wall Street project for what you are doing not only to open the vaults but to remind us that every one of us has an obligation and a responsibility in the continuing journey of America to extend opportunity, to extend the winners' circle, so that every American feels that his or her place is in the forefront of taking the American dream for themselves.
We have to be breaking down those barriers that still keep us from working together and building bridges, barriers between races and until recently, between Wall Street and the great untapped markets of America.
Yesterday, I was in upstate New York. I started in Rochester, I drove to the county seat of a small county, a town called Lyons in Wayne County. And then, I went on to Geneva, where I spoke to several thousand college students and community citizens.
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>>6568595
You gotta look at it from a more objective point of view.

In a way, you don't matter, none of us do. We're anonymous jerks posting on a message board for a family animated movie with talking animals most of us want to fuck.

But in a broader sense, you have total freedom. No one is judging you, no one is ruling your life, no one is controling you.

And all you'll get from us is love, because we love that you're here.

You may not matter to us personally, but collectively, you're here, and you can do anything.
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economy and technology, but doing more to help our farmers, and that would include, for example, including New York in the dairy compact so that our dairy farmers would get a much fairer price for their milk and doing some changes in some of the federal financing and subsidy programs, so that all of our farmers would have a leveler playing field so that they could compete and really continue the rural tradition that means so much to upstate New York.
BLITZER: All right, Mrs. , we have to take another break.
More of our conversation, our town meeting, with the U.S. Senate candidate from New York, the Democratic candidate, Rodham , when we come back.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BLITZER: Welcome back to the University of Buffalo, where we're continuing our special LATE EDITION town meeting with Rodham .
Let's take another question from a New Yorker.
QUESTION: Hi, my name is Dan Kamerada (ph) from Rochester.
President and yourself pushed for a nationalized health care. When brought to the American people, this was soundly rejected. If you were elected, would you try to get the same nationalized health care. How would you guarantee that people without health care could get coverage?
: Well, you're right. You may remember I had a few things to say about health care a few years ago, and I learned a lot from that experience, and I'm now from the school of smaller steps.
I still believe that we have to work toward the time when we can provide quality, affordable health care for every American, because since those years, we've had, as you've pointed out, even more uninsured Americans, and an increasing number of what you might call underinsured Americans, and so there are a lot of steps that I think we could take. I've mentioned a few of them just briefly.
We do need to add a prescription drug benefit I'd like to see every child get the health care that child needs. I now
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s who haven't yet felt the full impact of the economic progress that we celebrate as we begin this new century. And if you believe, as I do, that part of the challenge we have is to bridge the capital divide, then I hope you will see as I see in all of my travels that we really have three divides that we have to bridge in order to provide opportunity as fully as possible. We have a capital divide, we have an education divide and we have a digital divide, which Bruce talked about so well.
If we add those divides up, we see what our challenges are: How do we get capital where it needs to be? How do we make sure our education systems are working for all Americans? How do we provide access to all the new information technology?
If we take on those three challenges, then we will bridge the opportunity divide that still exists in America.
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: And the good news is, we know what works. It's not as though we have no idea how to bridge the opportunity divide. There are many models around New York and America that can be pointed to with great pride. Bruce and Percy and Jesse and Larry mentioned and referred to some. The trick is whether we summon the political will and leadership, the public investment and leadership, the private investment and leadership in order to bridge these divides.
I've met many New Yorkers in the last six months who have very good ideas about what to do in their own communities in order to further their independence and self-sufficiency, but they need help, they need investment and they need leadership.
Last summer and fall, e a chance to build on what has been done in the last seven years. We now know that we can reform welfare. We now know that we can create jobs.
I remember in 1992 when the number eight million jobs was put out, many people said don't promise that many new jobs. You'll never get there. Well, I think we're
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>>6568611
Was supposed to be a bun bois but I messed it up. I am sorry badgers and buns everywhere.
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you know, when you think about it, it's very sad that we have so many uninsured and underinsured people, and I've been in and out of hospitals all over the state. And I was up in Massena, which is -- I don't if anybody here is from Massena, but it's up in the north country -- and I went into a hospital room and met a woman who has no insurance, and she has asthma and a heart condition, and so every three months she goes into the hospital where they take very good care of her, but then they don't have any way to pay those s because she makes too much money in order to qualify for Medicaid but she can't afford insurance.
In that same hospital I met a young woman who switched jobs and was not yet eligible for the health insurance of her new employer when she found a lump in her breast and a family friend, an internist did the out -- did the biopsy and found out that it was cancerous and sent her to his friends, an oncologist and a surgeon, and the surgeon said to her, "You know, this may be a blessing in disguise because now I'll be able to take care of you the way that I want to without arguing with your insurance company."
So we really have some work to do to make sure that it's doctors and nurses and to make sure people have access. We also have to lower the cost of prescription drugs. They are just way too high and they're going up too fast, and I've said that I would introduce legislation that would permit us to reimport American manufactured and approved drugs from Canada so that we could buy them at the low rate that Canadians buy them, so we can have a more competitive marketplace for drugs.
BLITZER: Mrs. , but you know that millions of Americans will forever define you by that failed health care plan of 1993, not so much because it was -- you wanted to go in one full step, but because it was big government, an effort by the government to take over our health care, and they will always see you as someone who simply wants big go more, that are local and s
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neighborhood in Rochester.
: But because of government policies, committed business leaders, visionary public leadership, that supermarket is now there, employing hundreds of people, doing business with dozens and dozens of other businesses and serving as a stark rebuke to anyone who believes there are not markets yet to be tapped right here in our own country.
And if one...
(APPLAUSE)
... if one were to go to many of the board rooms in many of the great businesses that call this city their headquarters, there would still be incredulity at the idea that you could make a profit as this chain of supermarkets in these under-served neighborhoods is making -- that you could make a profit serving people like the ones I saw in that supermarket. I must have shaken hundreds of hands.
And the clearest way to know whether you are with a poor person in America is not by the logo on the clothes, because we all wear pretty much the same anymore; it's by looking into their eyes and seeing whether they look into yours and seeing what kind of teeth they have. Poor Americans, more than in any oth in that part of town again.
There are still too many New Yorkers and too many Americans who haven't yet felt the full impact of the economic progress that we celebrate as we d ideas about what to do in their own communities in order to further their independence and self-sufficiency, but they need help, they need investment and they need leadership.
Last summer and fall, Re
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Insurance Program that I worked so hard on, because we have to figure out a way, because this is not a problem that just affects the uninsured or people who have to argue with their HMO. It eventually affects all of us, because if we don't have a system that is really funding our local hospitals, our academic health centers, all of the pieces of our system that really make America's health care system the best in the world, eventually it will affect what kind of care all of us can receive.
BLITZER: All right, let's take another question.
QUESTION: Hello, my name is Marcy Kelly (ph), I'm from Hamburg, New York and I work for an agency called Action For Mental Health, which is part of the West New York Independent Living Project. It's a disability rights advocate agency. Currently in New York state we can't get equal health insurance coverage for mental illness, insurance companies do not cover mental illness and middle class and lower-class people go without mental health treatment. On the federal level, Medicare only allows 90 days of in-patient hospital care.
What can you do to help us in this -- in getting insurance coverage we need for treatment for mental illness?
: Yes, I'm really glad you asked that, because I think it might surprise people to know how often as I'm traveling around the state, maybe going into a diner or, you know, in a supermarket, people will come up and talk to me about just that problem.
You know, we still have a stigma, don't we, when it comes to mental illness? And I think the more we learn about how our bodies and minds work -- you know, the mind is an organ just like the heart or the liver, and we are learning that a lot of the susceptibility to mental illness is really in our genes. I think when we map the human genome we're going to discover that just like some of us might be susceptible or vulnerable to diabetes or cancer, others might be susceptible to depression or schizophrenia.
I t idence that many of those youngsters are affe
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president's leadership and the able assistance of secretaries of treasury and others, we have abandoned the massive deficits of the 1980s, we have built record high surpluses and restored confidence in the American economy.
But every year, despite the evidence that fiscal discipline brought us to this point where we could be talking about expanding opportunities to those left behind, there are members of Congress and candidates for Congress who insist on throwing away that progress on irresponsible tax and budget plans.
If we want a strong economy that helps us bridge the opportunity divide, then we have to make sure that we do not make a U-turn back to the days of fiscal irresponsibility. We cannot go back to the time when deficits hobbled growth, spiked interest rates and robbed businesses of capital for investments throughout our country.
: Therefore, part of our obligation here is to stand firmly in favor of those policies that will continue to nurture economic conditions that businesses need to expand and thrive and create new jobs.
That's one of the reasons we fought so hard to preserve the Community Reinvestment Act. The CRA...
(APPLAUSE)
The CRA was seen by some as a social engineering tool that had no place in the marketplace. But we know that the CRA has helped families buy new homes, helped businesses hire more workers and promoted economic growth in so many communities. It is an important tool to expand on the progress that we have made and hope to make. And it is a valuable tool that I will stand firmly beside Reverend Jackson and Secretary Summers and others always to protect, because with
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independent Palestinian state alongside Israel?
: Well you know, I expressed a personal opinion, but I think that that also is one of those issues that has to be decided between the parties, and it is part of the final status negotiations. BLITZER: So you've backed away from that?
: Well, I think it's not useful, especially for someone to comment or talk about what should be the determination between the parties.
BLITZER: All right. Let's take another question.
QUESTION: Hi, Mrs. , my name is Alka Sharma (ph). I'm from Buffalo. My question is, what key strength do you feel that you possess that will make you the best advocate for New York?
: Well, I think I bring 30 years of experience and commitment to the issues that New Yorkers are talking to me about: How do we improve public education? and I and I am a strong supporter of that. I was one of the first people, for example, to call for teacher testing back in 1983, and I'd like to do more to both increase standards and accountability as well as provide more opportunity. The work that I have done in health care and will continue to do, the work that I've done on economic development I think is all very relevant to the job of a senator.
But it's not only issues, it's how you get things done. You know, in the Senate, we have to work with 99 other people, and I think I bring a leadership style that will try to unite people, and try to work with people in a way that will actually accomplish some very positive results for our state, and so I think both on issues and ouse years, I've worked with members of Congress from both parties on not that I will get up every and that may not agree with me, but I know that
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by how enthusiastic he was for the new business that he had helped to create, and how now there were five such supermarkets and more on the drawing boards. It was not something that was done from the goodness of the corporate heart. It was not an altruistic decision. It was a simple profit and loss decision and it has paid off.
I believe that if we continue to work together, the public and the private sector, to push the New Markets Initiative, to create more awareness among our business and corporate leaders about what markets are available, we will have even more stories like the ones all of us could tell.
I believe we have to make it easier for businesses of all sizes; from Fortune 500 to small start-ups, to invest in the inner city and in rural areas. I believe that's why we should support tax credits and incentives and government-guaranteed loans to leverage ions of dollars in new private investment and reduce the initial risk for businesses that agree to hang out their shingles in areas of high unemployment.
: That supermarket was there because of the empowerment zone and enterprise community legislation that provided just that extra push that a business needed -- that the government would stand behind their risk-taking while they determined how to make a profit and build a market.
Tomorrow the president will be introducing even more proposals to boost the New Markets Initiative, and there is one aspect of that that I would like to discuss; he will certainly be making all of the other announcements here in New York.
But one that is particularly important to me and that I've been involved in now for more than 15 years is called microenterprise, an idea that started in very poor places -- Bangladesh and I bank that would do just that.
I'd heard about how the South Shore Bank in Chicago had taken those ideas and transplanted them to America, providing modest-sized loans primarily to low-income women, who would have
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improve labor rights, we improve environmental standards in our bilateral and our multilateral trade agreements.
But on balance, I've looked at this, I've studied it, I think it is in the interests of America and American workers that we provide the option for China to go into the WTO. Right now, we are trading with China. We have a huge trade deficit with China. The agreement that has been negotiated between our two countries would open their markets to us in a way that they are not yet open, and in fact, for many large manufactured products, like automobiles, we would have the first chance to really get in and compete in that marketplace.
I also think it's not just an issue of trade. I believe it's a security consideration. I want to do everything we can to persuade China to improve its human rights record, to be sure that it doesn't in any way interfere with its neighbors or with Taiwan. I don't think you gain that by isolating China. I think we must work out as best we can a relationship in trade, and a very firm statement and commitment to improving human rights and try to make as much progress as possible.
BLITZER: Mrs. , we only have a few seconds left.
Here's the question that I've wanted to ask you. Our audience at home is now going look at a picture of you wearing a Chicago Cubs baseball cap and a New York Yankees baseball cap. If the Cubs make it to the World Series this year, the first time since 1908 that they would actually be in a position to win a World Series, a lifelong Chicago resident, a native of Illinois, would you say the Chicago Cubs should win or the New York Yankees?
: Well, you know, Wolf, I got into trouble when I told people that I was a Yankees fan growing up. But part of the reason I was a Yankees fan is because I was also a Cubs fan. You know, I
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what worked far away from the shores of our own country could indeed work here at home.
Many low-income people who had skills and talents were able to turn them in to jobs and even small businesses that employed others because they had access to capital. People began to free themselves from welfare. They saw a future where before they never had.
I know that many people are still unaware of micro-enterprise, don't know what it can do in the lives of Americans, and that many commercial enterprises, particularly commercial banks, are still reluctant to be involved. And yet in every program of micro-credit that I am personally aware of, the loan repayment rate is more than 95 percent. That is...
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That is a return that most commercial banks certainly could not claim. And it is credit that is extended to the poorest of the poor, but in a way that enables and empowers them to not only make a profit but to pass on that kind of economic awareness to their neighbors, therefore creating a larger and larger market.
I want to thank some of America's commercial banks that are beginning to be involved in micro-enterprise, but principally abroad, working in Northern Ireland, working in India. We need to bring those ideas that work right here to America.
Since 1993, we have built a strong record of support and investment in micro lending in the administration. We've tripled America's investment in community development banks and have established the presidential awards in micro-enterprise excellence and provided technical assistance.
: I believe we can build on that progress. I would like to double the number of micro entrepreneurs in our communities. And we can do that by strengthening the SBA's micro loan program and the new PRIME Act, which extends training and credit to people with little income or credit but good ideas for business and the willingness to put in a lot of sweat equity.
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You matter to your friends, colleagues, family, etc.
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OTHERS AT A WHITE HOUSE EVENT, 4/28/2000
TOPIC: CHILD CARE AND CRIME PREVENTION
LOCATION: THE ROOSEVELT ROOM OF THE WHITE HOUSE, WASHINGTON, D.C.
SECTION: WHITE HOUSE BRIEFING
MRS. : (In progress due to technical difficulties) -- crime, Invest in Kids, an anti-crime group made up of 700 police chiefs, sheriffs, prosecutors, experts, and victims of violence.
Now this report which we are releasing has the expert help and advice of so many people who are on the front lines of caring for our children and of preventing crime. It tells us that at-risk children who receive quality child care today are much less likely to commit crimes tomorrow. They're less likely to enter school with serious behavioral problems. They are less likely to be arrested. They are less likely to break the law again and again when they grow up to be adults.
And by investing in child care, we save not only precious lives and futures, but also precious resources. For every dollar we invest in child care, we save more than $5 in crime costs down the line.


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It is my great hope that Congress will pass this budget so that we can take a step forward to having the kind of country that all of us want to have and that our children deserve to have. As today's report confirms, investing in child care is not only the right thing to do, it is the smart, economic and, now we know, crime-fighting thing to do as well.
Now, our next speaker is someone who has been working on this issue for a lot longer than anyone else in this room. He has worked tirelessly on behalf of our youngest and most vulnerable children, and it has been my great pleasure to work with him over many years now. So let me introduce a professor, a pediatrician, a co-author of today's study, a great champion of children, a friend and a
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Badgers are best
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>>6568622
That's really fucking beautiful man.

I want to think I matter to someone, but I think I measure worth based on what I CAN do for people, instead of just what I DO.

Thanks.

>>6568648
I'm sure I do. I hope I do.
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>>6568651
>badger cucks joker
badgers confirmed for best
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>>6568654
Exactly.

You need to matter to yourself before you can matter to others.


And if you truely believe you don't matter, then you can live wihtout consequence, and find a reason to matter.
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>>6568651
Badgers: better than autists.
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You also voted for that legislation, including the construction of that fence. And some say, to be even-handed, if you want to build a fence along the border with Mexico, you should also build a fence along the border with Canada.
OBAMA: Well, we should certainly do a better job patrolling the borders in Canada. In fact, this recent case with the young lawyer who had tuberculosis being waved through by a border guard because he said he looked OK is a problem. And we've got to strengthen our border patrols on both sides.
But let's go back to the essential issue here. We are a country of immigrants. We're also a country of laws. And the question is, how do we balance that appropriately?
I am hopeful that we can solve this problem constructively. I think Joe is exactly right, that we want to have a situation in which those who are already here, are playing by the rules, are willing to pay a fine and go through a rigorous process, should have a pathway to legalization. And I think most Americans will support that if they have some sense that the border is also being secured.
What they don't want is a situation in which there is a pathway to legalization and you've got another several hundred thousands of folks coming in every year.
OBAMA: And that, I think...
BLITZER: All right.
OBAMA: ... is a sensible position we should be able to arrive at.
BLITZER: We're going to move on to the next question. But before we do, one related question. And I'm going to periodically ask you to raise your hand if you agree or you -- if you agree with the question. And I want you to raise your hand if you believe English should be the official language of the United States.
The only hand I see is Senator Gravel.
GRAVEL: Yeah. We speak English. That doesn't mean we can't encourage other languages. I speak French and English. People speak Spanish and English. But the official language of the United States of America ure generations of immigr
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ow, I commend the Congress for facing up to having a legalization plan, but I will not support a -- our immigration laws in this country always bring families together. together.
RICHARDSON: This separates families.
BLITZER: All right.
RICHARDSON: There's also a provision -- this is important -- that involves -- that involves guest workers. They should have labor protections.
BLITZER: All right.
RICHARDSON: We don't want to create a permanent underclass in those workers.
BLITZER: Senator Biden, let me let you weigh in. You voted last year to support this immigration legislation, including the construction of an approximately 700-mile fence along the border between the United States and Mexico.
Governor Richardson doesn't think there needs to be such a fence. Why is he wrong?
BIDEN: Well, he's not wrong. There doesn't need to be a 700- mile fence. But there does need -- look, we ought to start -- we all love this phrase: Start talking truth to power.
Fourteen million illegals: Now, you tell me how many buses, carloads, planes -- they're going to go out and round up all these people, spend hundreds of millions and ions of dollars to do it, with the whole world watching, while we send these folks back.
Rather than get a background check on all of them, take out the criminals, get them back, and provide for a means by which we allowed earned citizenship over the next decade or so.
BIDEN: Folks, being commander in chief requires you to occasionally be practical.
(LAUGHTER)
BLITZER: If you don't think there needs to be a fence, why did you vote for that legislation?
BIDEN: Well, that fence was -- the reason I voted for the fence was that was the only alternative that was there.
And I voted for the fence related to drugs. A fence will stop 20 kilos of cocaine coming through that fence. It will not stop someone climbing over it back Senator Obama.
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FAHEY: Yes, I'm hoping, too.
Governor Richardson, a question on immigration. Despite your doubts about the immigration that's now pending in the U.S. Senate, you support granting legal status to about 12 million people who have entered this country illegally.
Why is this not an amnesty program?
BLITZER: All right. I don't know if all the candidates could hear your microphone, so I'm going to re-read his question to make sure all of you heard it.
The question is directed to Governor Richardson.
Governor Richardson, despite your doubts about the immigration pending in the Senate, you support granting legal status to roughly 12 million people who entered the United States illegally.
Why is this not an amnesty program?
RICHARDSON: I'm a border governor.
RICHARDSON: Two years ago, I declared a border emergency because of the tremendous flow of drugs and illegal workers coming into my state.
I deal with this issue every day.
Here's my position: I would not support legislation that divided families; I would not support legislation that builds a wall, a Berlin-type wall, between two countries the way the in the Congress exists today.
Now, what are the essential components of any good, sensible immigration ?
One, increases border patrols; double the size of border patrols and technology. That makes sense. Don't reduce the National Guard that's there.
Secondly, an earned legalization program -- yes, I support that -- one that is based on learning English, paying back taxes, passing a background check, getting behind those that are trying to get here legally, obeying laws, embracing American values.
RICHARDSON: And then, lastly, finding ways that we penalize employers that knowingly hire illegal workers. That is essential in an immigration .
BLITZER: Let me get back to the question. Almost al k provision. The head-of-household has to go
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I appreciate John's compliment.
When I looked at the issue, what I saw was a weak case on the part of this administration, the sort of fear-mongering that I think, John, you've referred on this stage tonight.
OBAMA: And the critical thing for us moving forward is to recognize that we are not going to be able to continue to throw our troops at a civil war and be able to succeed.
And I just have to go back to what I said earlier. This is an enormous distraction from the battle that does have to be waged in Afghanistan in rooting out Al Qaida. That is something that we have failed to do. We have the opportunity to be successful there. But we have to finish the job.
BLITZER: Senator Gravel, do you think someone who voted to authorize the president to go to war should be president of the United States?
GRAVEL: Not at all, because it's a moral criteria.
And there's information coming out -- Senator Durbin, Mr. Shrum, in his book -- that really points out that these people knew that there was two sets of intelligence going on at the same time. And they made a political decision to vote the way they voted, a political decision that cost -- stop and think. We have killed more Americans than was done on the 11th of September.
BLITZER: When you...
GRAVEL: More Americans died because of their decision. That disqualifies them for president. It doesn't mean they're bad people. It just means that they don't have moral judgment. And that's very important when you become president.
BLITZER: All right.
Senator , you want to respond?
: Well, I have said repeatedly that if I had known then what I know now, I never would have voted to give the president authority.
And in the last debate, I said that, you know, it was a mistake to trust George Bush that he would do what ernational Atomic E .
What was wrong is the way this president misu
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>>6569092
I can't say the concept hasn't grown on me.

I mean the concept in general. The buns are optional. Fun to draw though.
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Filters are neat.
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search for weapons of mass destruction. They gave the Iraqi people a chance for elections and to have a government. It is the Iraqis who have failed to take advantage of that opportunity.
BLITZER: So let me just be precise, because the question was: Do you regret not reading the national intelligence estimate?
: I feel like I was totally briefed. I knew all of the arguments that were being made by everyone from all directions. National intelligence estimates have a consensus position and then they have argumentation as to those people who don't agree with it. I thought the best way to find out who was right in the intelligence community was to send in the inspectors.
If George Bush had allowed the inspectors to finish the job they started, we would have known that Saddam Hussein did not have WMD and we would not have gone and invaded Iraq.
BLITZER: Senator Edwards, you didn't read that national intelligence estimate either. Do you regret that?
EDWARDS: No, actually, I think that I would agree with some of what just said. I think it's true that I was on the Intelligence Committee -- and I don't think Senator was, but I was on the Intelligence Committee. I received direct information from that. I met with former high-level people in the administration who gave me additional information. And I read the summary of the NIE.
I think I had the information I needed. I don't think that was the question.
I think one difference we do have is I think I was wrong. I should never have voted for this war.
And this goes to the issue that Senator Obama raised a few minutes ago. He deserves credit for being against this war from the beginning. He was right. I was wrong.
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And I think it is important for anybody who seeks to be the next president of the United States, given the dishonesty that we've been faced with ove ualifier. I think th time was the head of the Intelligence Committee -- cited that specifically as one of the
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end the war.
Well, they haven't. They have to stop the funding. And I certainly am urging all of my colleagues here, don't give him any more money. The money's in the pipeline right now, enough to bring the troops home. Let's end the war and let's make this a productive evening.
BLITZER: Senator Biden?
BIDEN: Wolf, look, the Republicans and this president have not told us the truth about this war from the beginning. The last thing we Democrats should do is not be telling the truth.
We have 50 votes in the United States Senate. We have less of a majority in the House than any time other than the last eight years.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're going to end this war when you elect a Democratic president. You need 67 votes to end this war.
I love these guys who tell you they're going to stop the war. Let me tell you straight up the truth. The truth of the matter is, the only one that's emboldened the enemy has been George Bush by his policies, not us funding the war.
BIDEN: We're funding the safety of those troops there until we can get 67 votes...
BLITZER: All right. Hold on, hold on. I want to bring Senator in.
Senator , do you regret voting the authorize the president to use force against Saddam Hussein in Iraq without actually reading the national intelligence estimate, the classified document laying out the best U.S. intelligence at that time?
: Wolf, I was thoroughly briefed. I knew all the arguments. I knew all of what the Defense Department, the CIA, the State Department were all saying. And I sought dissenting opinions, as well as talking to people in previous administrations and outside experts.
You know, that was a sincere vote based on my assessment that sending inspectors back into Iraq to determine once and for all whether Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and using coercive diplomacy was not an
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GRAVEL: Totally. Totally. It's just that simple.
Four of these people here will say that it's George Bush's war. It was facilitated by the Democrats.
GRAVEL: They brought the resolution up. One of them authored, co-authored it here, standing here.
And so it's -- sure, it's George Bush's war. But it's the Democrats' war also.
Now that you want to end it, you're concerned about what's going to happen after we withdraw. Remember Vietnam. All the dominoes are going to fall. Southeast Asia's going to go -- is going to go Communist.
Well, how do we know what will happen? I do know this, that the insurgency is successful because the population sustains that insurgency, period.
BLITZER: All right.
Let's go to the next question from Tom.
Go ahead, Tom.
FAHEY: Yes, thank you.
Congressman Kucinich...
: It's hard to hear you.
FAHEY: OK.
I'll yell. I don't think the mike is working.
BLITZER: Go ahead.
FAHEY: The New Hampshire Union Leader asked readers to e-mail questions for the candidates...
KUCINICH: I can't...
BLITZER: I don't know if we're having trouble with his mike.
I'll read you his question.
KUCINICH: Yeah, go ahead.
BLITZER: The Union Leader, the main newspaper here in New Hampshire, asked readers to e-mail their questions.
Here's one from Michael Pelletier (ph), a major in the New Hampshire National Guard: "Can you tell me if the mission we accomplished during our deployment in Iraq was worth our effort and sacrifice, or was it a waste of time and resources?"
KUCINICH: I honor the people who served. We all owe them a debt of gratitude. But those who sent those soldiers were wrong. They should have never been sent there in the first place, Wolf.
This war has been based on lies. And we could have a productive evening here right now if all of my colleagues on this stage or in the Congress would commit to telling the Democratic leadership not even to offer a funding , because that's really the way to end the war, W ar.
Oh, no. T
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This war has caused many casualties, not the least of which are our troops, obviously, but also the foreign policy. Your first question on terror has been directly affected because of this policy in Iraq.
BLITZER: Governor Richardson, I want Governor Richardson to weigh in because I know you have been very concerned about what is happening with the genocide in Darfur.
What if some of the critics, some of the supporters of this war, are right, and a unilateral, quick U.S. withdrawal from Iraq -- and you want troops out by the end of this year -- does lead not only to an increased civil war, but to genocide in Iraq?
BLITZER: What moral responsibility does the United States have to deal with that scenario?
RICHARDSON: I've spent a lot of time in this region. I was U.N. ambassador. Eighty percent of my time was spent on the Iraq issue. I've talked to the leaders there.
And there is a fundamental difference between my position and the position of my good friends here. I believe that it's a civil war. I believe that there is sectarian conflict already. There is enormous turmoil.
Seven Americans died today.
This is what I would do. I would have a resolution under Article I to deauthorize the war, to move forward with a timetable, the end of this calendar year...
BLITZER: But what about genocide? What about the possibility of genocide?
RICHARDSON: ... no residual -- no residual forces.
I think there has to be pointed out a difference in our approach. Obviously, genocide is something in Darfur. You know, I have been involved in that issue.
RICHARDSON: I believe what we need to do there is stop this genocide. Why don't we care about Africa?
BLITZER: What about Iraq, if it were, God forbid, to happen?
RICHARDSON: Well, obviously, I would keep troops in Kuwait, where they are wanted. I would move them to Afghanistan to fight Al Qaida.
But I believe that our troops have become a target. Our troops right now have done a magnificent job.
And so what -- the
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BIDEN: My colleagues joined me when I proposed fast-forwarding the funding for that so we could get 2,500 of them into the field by August. If we had voted no and stopped this, it would have delayed that. Lives are at stake.
And I knew the right political vote, but I tell you what: Some things are worth losing elections over.
BLITZER: Senator Biden, why are you reluctant to say now: They were wrong, and you were right?
BIDEN: Because I don't want to judge them. I mean, these are my friends. We have worked together. We've worked hard to try and end this war. We have people telling everybody: Just stop the war, Congress. We have 50 votes. We're busting our neck every single day. So I respect it.
But look, I cannot -- as long as there is a single troop in Iraq that I know if I take action by funding them, I increase the prospect they will live or not be injured -- I cannot and will not vote no to fund them.
BLITZER: Senator , you voted in favor of every funding for the U.S. troops since the start of the war until now. And some are accusing you and some others of playing politics with the lives of the troops.
What is your response?
: Well, I have the deepest respect for my friend, Senator Biden, and he and I have agreed on much of what we have attempted to do.
Unfortunately, we don't have a president who is willing to change course. And I think it was time to say enough is enough.
I thought the best way to support our troops was to try to send a very strong message that they should begin to come home. That is the best way to support them. And I thought that vote was an opportunity to do so.
Everybody on this stage, we are all united, Wolf. We all believe that we need to try to end this war. In two nights you're going to have the Republican candidates here. They all support the war. They all support the president. They all supported the escalation. Each of us is trying in our
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BLITZER: Congressman Kucinich, you voted against the Patriot Act when it was first introduced. You've since voted again against it. But some would say yesterday's plot that was described by the FBI underscores the need for precisely that kind of tough measure to deal with potential terrorists out there.
KUCINICH: Benjamin Franklin once said that those who would give up their essential liberties to achieve a sense of security deserve neither.
KUCINICH: The Patriot Act has undermined civil rights in this country. And as president of the United States, one of my first acts in office will be to move forward to have the Justice Department overturn the Patriot Act as unconstitutional.
We have to remember that 9/11 led us down a cul de sac. Americans need to reconnect with our deepest sense of self here, Wolf. We have to remember that, you know, the courage that it took to form this country is still within us.
And I want to have what I call the 9/10 forum to recreate -- help us reconnect with the deeper sense of who we are as Americans.
BLITZER: We've got to move on to the next question. I want to go back to Scott.
Go ahead, Scott.
SPRADLING: Thanks, Wolf.
Senator Biden...
BIDEN: Yes, sir.
SPRADLING: Question for you on Iraq: You are the only person standing on this stage tonight to recently vote to continue funding the troops in Iraq.
My question is this. Why were Senators Obama, , Dodd, and Congressman Kucinich wrong to vote against the funding?
BIDEN: I'm not going to make a judgment on why they were wrong. I'll tell you why I was right.
No one has fought harder to change this president's policy.
Matter of fact, the very language that was vetoed in the was language that I, along with Senator Levin, put in, and I've suggested over a year ago in a proposal I laid forward. That is to start to draw down troops immediately, have them all out by '08.
But, you know, the fact of the matter is: It's about time. We've
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terrorist attack here in the United States for nearly six years?
OBAMA: You know, I think there are some things they've done well. I think they've cracked down on some of the financial networks. I think that is important.
They have, unfortunately, not strengthened our alliances with other countries. And one of the most important things that we're going to have to do to be successful in routing out these networks is to make sure that we have the cooperation of other nations.
That is not something that we've done. And the effort in Iraq has greatly weakened our efforts there.
BLITZER: Senator Edwards, let me let you clarify what you said the other day. You said the war on terror is a bumper sticker, not a plan.
With the news yesterday, this alleged plot at JFK which could have done, supposedly, horrendous damage and caused an incredible number of casualties, do you believe the U.S. is not at war with terrorists?
EDWARDS: I reject this bumper sticker, Wolf. And that's exactly what it is. It's a bumper sticker.
As president of the United States, I will do absolutely everything to find terrorists where they are, to stop them before they can do harm to us, before they can do harm to America or to its allies.
Every tool available -- military alliances, intelligence -- I will use.
But what this global war on terror bumper sticker -- political slogan, that's all it is, all it's ever been -- was intended to do was for George Bush to use it to justify everything he does: the ongoing war in Iraq, Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, spying on Americans, torture.
None of those things are OK. They are not the United States of America.
BLITZER: All right.
Senator , do you agree with Senator Edwards that this war on terror is nothing more than a bumper sticker; at least the way it's been described?
: No, I do not. I am a senator from New York. I have lived with the aftermath of 9/11, and I have seen fir wing.
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You know, a lot of people around the world are writing America off. They do believe our best days are behind us. I could not disagree more.
I believe America can rebound from these last six years.
I believe we can restore fairness and ensure that all share in our prosperity.
I believe we can reduce the deficit and restore fiscal responsibility and give people the education and opportunities they need to fulfill their God-given potentials.
I'm running for president because I believe if we set big goals and we work together to achieve them, we can restore the American dream today and for the next generation.
The core ideals of a 21st-century progressivism are simple. The foundation of a strong economy is the investments we make in each other: in education, health care, clean energy and new technologies. Greatness comes from policies that promote prosperity and ensure we all share in it.
Now, living up to these ideals and changing the political makeup will not be easy. But I'm absolutely confident we can do it.
And I would just close by thinking of that Granite Stater Daniel Webster. He said it years ago when he urged us to "develop the resources of our land, call forth its powers, build up its institutions, promote all its great interests and see whether we also, in our day and generation, may not perform something worthy to be remembered."
I'm confident we have the discipline, the determination and the drive that we will not be the first generation in American history to leave our country worse off than when we found it. But we will continue, as every generation has before, to create much that is worthy to be remembered. We will restore fairness and responsibility to our economy, rebuild our middle class and rise to the challenges of this new global century.
Thank you all very much.
(APPLAUSE)
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Obama, you get the first less dangerous world, partly as a consequence of this
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>>6569139
Buns are just so cute!
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Well, these are the kinds of new jobs that we need to be looking for across our country.
I also believe we have to invest in 21st-century infrastructure to compete. Let's set a goal of putting high-speed Internet access through broadband or wireless within the reach of every single American so that people throughout this state and every other one will be able to participate in the global economy.
In New York, as a senator, I've done a lot of work trying to work with chambers of commerce and others to create zones for access to high-speed Internet, because it was difficult to attract jobs to the Adirondacks or to other areas of rural New York without having that.
We haven't had much help from the federal government, but I've been introducing legislation every since I arrived in the Senate to do just that.
Just as we had a railroad system that connected our country, an electrification system, an interstate highway system, an airport system, we have to have a broadband system.
And, unfortunately, other countries are gaining on us and surpassing us, and that gives them economic advantages.
I also am not giving up on manufacturing.
: I believe we can still have a vibrant manufacturing base, with the right policies. It provides an immediate laboratory for innovation and a challenging feedback loop for engineers, designers and dreamers. It's an invaluable training ground for a new generation of entrepreneurs and leaders.
That's why I helped to start the Senate Manufacturing Caucus, where I've worked to develop a manufacturing strategy that will be suitable with the challenges of the 21st century.
I also founded a group called New Jobs for New York, a unique non-profit that harnesses the ingenuity, entrepreneurship and hard work of New Yorkers. And I want to do that across our country.
You know, we've been able to show companies i
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I think we also have to have a modern attitude toward unions. You know, we know that unionized workers make 30 percent more than workers who aren't in unions. But today, just 7 percent of our workforce in the private sector is unionized.
: We need to give workers more of the benefits that come with union membership. Let's pass the Employee Free Choice Act to make sure that unions can organize for fair wages and safe working conditions. Let's appoint people to the Department of Labor who are truly pro-labor.
That would be an unusual idea, don't you think?
(APPLAUSE)
Unions played a critical role in building the middle class. And I don't think it's a coincidence that as union membership has dropped, middle-class incomes have stagnated.
So this is not an either/or choice. We can have both.
Some people say, "Well, if you have more unionization that will make America un-competitive." But there are other countries in the global economy that pay wages equal to or higher than ours, and many jobs that are important to the economy in those countries demand a really good living wage for a middle-class family.
Their lower-paid workers are paid more than our lower-paid workers. But their higher-paid workers are paid less. So there's less of a gap between our lower-paid workers and our highest-paid workers, which means that there's more money for those wage increases in the middle.
That's what worked for America until relatively recently. And that's what we have to persuade people is good for America again.
Eighth, let's ensure everyone has the most fundamental benefit there is: quality, affordable health care. Now, we know that this is going to be challenging. But if we could spend more than $500 ion to fund the war in Iraq, we can surely make the basic investments to ensure that every American can see a doctor when he or she n our families. To talking a lot more about in for our economy.
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And this is something...
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... this is something I feel very strongly about. We have sent a message to our young people, that if you don't go to college and you don't have a high-paying job, something like a basketball player or an entertainer or maybe someone in a corporation, that you're thought less of in America.
We have to stop this. Our country cannot run without the people who do the skills that are taught in this school. And it is time we begin to reverse the attitude that I think for too long has prevailed.
Which is why I'm so pleased that Governor Lynch will be adding to the money available through the state for technology and other kinds of advanced degree learning that can give young people a belief that doing these jobs is important.
As senator, I championed regional skills alliances that support employers in the same geographic region and industry. They support employers who pool their resources and broaden opportunities so employees can get the training they need in today's economy.
Those 1,200 people who come at night: That's what they're doing. They're trying to get additional skills that will enable them to fill jobs that already exist in this region.
And we're going to create more jobs and more regional skills alliances when I'm president.
Seventh, let's ensure that people who work hard every day can support their families and save for the future. I do not believe anyone who works full-time in America should draw a wage that puts that person below the poverty line.
If you're a full-time worker, you should make more than poverty.
(APPLAUSE)
Now that we've finally increased the minimum wage, let's expand and simplify the earned income tax credit so no one working full-time lives in poverty.
Let's also finally overhaul our unemployment insurance program.
Today's unemployment benefits aren't even enough to keep an average family above the poverty line. f employers don't want to give p ge.
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We also have to do more to raise up the opportunity for young people from middle-class and working families and poor families to be able to go to college.
You know, 75 percent of students at America's elite colleges come from the top 25 percent of the income bracket, just 3 percent from the bottom 25 percent.
We've got to make college affordable again, and that means everything from increasing Pell grants to changing the way college loans are provided and cleaning up the college loan industry from all of the scandals that is besetting it. Because if we don't make college affordable, we are seeing the results: Young people can't go.
The last time I was in Manchester I was talking with some of the teachers from one of the high schools here who told me that many young people were just really confused because they didn't have the money to go to college, and they didn't know what they were going to do. So we've got to do a better job than that.
Sixth, for those who don't attend four-year colleges and those in the workforce who need to update their skills, let's provide more support for schools like this and for community colleges that prepare people for good, high-paying jobs.
And let's provide wage insurance for our workers so that if you lose your job because of our trade policies, y ay reports that we have 37,000 vacancies for mechanics right now. These jobs pay salaries up to $70,000 a year. And employers are aggressively recruiting talented high school graduates to fill these positions.
I met recently with the Machinists Union. They were telling me the same story about airline mechanics. They have hundreds of good jobs that they can't fill.
It's not just that we can't fill these jobs; it's that we've come to a point in our society where, frankly, we don't show the respect that these jobs should demand.
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You know, people ask me all the time, "Why can't we get tough on China?" Well, the answer is, because China is one of our bankers. We're their debtor. How can we truly enforce trade laws against a country that manipulates it currency and puts us at an unfair advantage when our economic stability depends on China's massive loans to us every single day?
And when the president's irresponsible tax breaks for high-income Americans expire, we will return to the income tax rates for upper- income Americans that we had in the 1990s, rates that were consistent with a balanced budget and economic growth.
For middle-class Americans, who haven't seen their paychecks increase, let's keep the middle-class tax cuts and reform the alternative minimum tax in order to give middle-class Americans the tax relief they deserve to have.
(APPLAUSE)
: And let's take a hard look at corporate tax reform. It's simply not fair that as corporate profits have skyrocketed, the percentage of taxes paid by corporations have fallen.
It's time we restored the balance and required corporations to pay their fair share. Under the law, after all, they are citizens of the United States, with many of the responsibilities, I would argue, that goes with citizenship.
Fifth, let's recommit ourselves to the idea that every young person in America who wants to should have the opportunity to attend college, and that a 21st-century education starts early in life and continues well into adulthood.
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We know that having the most skilled, educated workforce in the world is key to our future success. That starts at the very beginning, with access to universal pre-kindergarten: high-quality learning opportunities for every 4-year-old in America. And I've laid out a proposal that would do exactly that.
We know that pre-kindergarten keeps kids in school longer, keeps them out of trouble, gives them more inc ber of children who are failin sons.
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Now that middle class is under assault from global economic forces and wrongheaded economic policies. So I'm proposing a new progressive plan to restore that American dream and to give all Americans the chance to compete and prosper in the global economy.
Here's what I believe we should do.
First, I'm going to work to level the playing field and reduce the special breaks for big corporations. We say this in every campaign. We make a little bit of progress. And then unfortunately, when the Republicans get back in office, they reverse everything we've done and add to the corporate welfare.
Well, I think we're going to have a better shot this time...
(APPLAUSE)
... because we're going to make it an issue in this campaign. We're going to ask people who are running for Congress to sign up one way or the other: Are they for corporate welfare, or are they for the average American having a decent shot at the American dream?
And there's a lot we could do right now.
You know, I believe that if we did give Medicare the chance to negotiate with drug companies, we would save $10 ion to $15 ion a year. Why should the drug companies be immune from the process that goes on every day in America, where you bargain for the best deal you can get? And we need to give our government that opportunity to do so.
When was president, he gave it to the V.A., which is one of the reasons why the V.A. has the lowest drug prices in America today. Bargaining really does make a difference.
: We also need...
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... to require the big oil companies that are making the largest profits in the history of the world to invest in alternative energy themselves or pay into a fund to spur clean energy research and development. And there are many other examples that we could all give about how to zero in on corporate welfare.
Second, let's once and for all get rid of the incentives for American companies to ship jobs and States. An ho ship jobs to tax havens.
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Health care premiums have gone up 87 percent since 2000; college costs up 40 percent since the 2000 school year. Gas prices have more than doubled. And I don't need to tell anyone that they're heading even higher today.
Wages and incomes are lagging so much that, after five years of overall growth, there's been a 4 percent increase in the percentage of workers falling below the poverty line, and a 4 percent increase in working families losing their health insurance.
It's like our middle-class and hardworking families are invisible to this president.
If you're a worker who can't organize for fair wages and safe working conditions, you're invisible.
If you're one of the over 45 million Americans who don't have health insurance, you're invisible, too.
If your company has shipped your job overseas and you don't know how to pay your s, well, you're invisible.
If you drive up to the gas station and have to pay $3.20 or $3.30 a gallon to fill up your tank, you're invisible as well.
Well, you're not invisible to me. And we can't restore the American dream unless you're a very visible part of it.
It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few and for the few, time to reject the idea of an "on your own" society and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity. I prefer a "we're all in it together" society.
Now, there is no greater force for economic growth than free markets, but markets work best with rules that promote our values, protect our workers and give all people a chance to succeed.
When we get our priorities in order and make the smart investments we need, the markets work well.
Some of you might remember that, while we began the 1990s with record deficits, we ended the decade with a balanced budget, a record surplus, higher wages for the middle class, and 22 million new jobs.
Now, of course, we can't simply recycle the policies that worked i s that have worked time a ance. I grew up in a middle-clas
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Today I want to focus on how we ensure both strong economic growth and economic fairness.
Now, we have seen for more than a century that fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government policies. And no one should be surprised, human nature being what it is, people will go as far as they possibly can get away with.
The genius of the American economic in the 20th century was that it helped to counter that tendency for people to push as far as their own interests would take them so that we created a leveler playing field that benefited everyone.
Unfortunately, for the past six years it's as though we've gone back to the era of the robber barons. Year after year the president has handed out massive tax breaks to oil companies, no-bid contracts to Halliburton, tax incentives to corporations shipping jobs overseas, tax cut after tax cut to multimillionaires, while ignoring the needs and aspirations of tens of millions of working families.
And how has he paid for all of this largess? By running up record deficits. He has simply charged it to our national credit card and left our children and grandchildren to pay the .
In fact, every baby born today starts like with $29,000 of national debt on his or her tiny shoulders, the largest birth tax in our nation's history.
It's also important to understand these policies are consistent with the administration's theory about how we should manage our economy: leave it all up to the individual.
That's why they want to privatize Social Security and let individuals bear the risks. It's why their answer to the health care crisis is limited to creating health savings account, which allows the healthiest people to get the best deal, with little concern if the sickest get worse.
: They call it the ownership society. But it's really the "on your own" society.
On the other hand, they protect the drug companies from competition, including from their ow
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>>6569185
Fair, but I've grown a fondness for tubes.
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I believe people are fed up with the policies of the past six years. So many people I talk to just want to hit the restart button on the 21st century and redo it the right way. And I agree with them.
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Now, after all, we started the decade with rising incomes, declining inequality, robust job growth and a surplus in our federal budget. Instead of building on policies that worked, the Washington Republicans reversed them with predictable but intolerable consequences.
I believe that one of the most crucial jobs of the next president is to define a new vision of economic fairness and prosperity for the 21st century, a vision for how we ensure greater opportunity for our next generation, and then to outline a strategy and then to implement it.
Today, I believe we need a new progressive vision for this new century.
Now, I consider myself a thoroughly optimistic and modern progressive.
I believe we can grow our economy in the face of global competition, and in a way that benefits all Americans.
I believe we can curb the excesses of the marketplace and provide more opportunities for more Americans to succeed.
I believe we can support and promote smart trade policies that truly enforce strong labor and environmental standards.
: I believe we can help more workers join unions to improve wages and conditions in our workplaces for jobs that cannot be shipped overseas.
I believe that, just as 20th-century progressives fought corruption with a new civil service, we can restore competence to the front lines of our government and ensure that we never, ever experience another Hurricane Katrina.
In short, I believe that our government can once again work for all Americans. It can promote the great American tradition of opportunity for all and special privileges for none.
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(CROSSTALK)
EMANUEL: I got it, thank you. This one I know how to do.
(LAUGHTER)
But I appreciate the guidance and counsel.
Let me say this, out of respect to our leadership. If I'm not mistaken the two leaders, Senator Reid and Speaker Pelosi, are going to be holding a press conference a little later. And I don't want to be presumptuous and get ahead of them. It's a fair question, but I think they'll answer it then, if you just hold off until about 2:15.
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SEN. RODHAM DELIVERS REMARKS AT MANCHESTER SCHOOL OF TECHNOLOGY, 5/29/2007
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: ... a middle-class lifestyle.
Now, during the second half of the 1990s, productivity growth led to rising incomes across the board.
But over the past six years, while productivity has gone up 18 percent -- that means Americans are working harder than ever and, by most indicators, working harder than anybody else in the rest of the world -- family incomes have gone down $1,300.
The global labor market may even be depressing wages for skilled and professional jobs. Since 2001, new jobs created in America pay, on average, 21 percent less than the jobs we have lost.
And back in 2000, child poverty was the lowest it had been in 20 years. Since then it has risen by 1.3 million. And today we have 12 million children living in poverty.
Now, given these realities, it's unsurprising we're seeing rising inequality and rising pessimism in our workforce.
Today more than 80 percent of Americans believe that our manufacturing jobs are at risk of being outsourced.
And let's be clear. It's not as if America hasn't been successful economically these past years. But the measure of success doesn't relate what's happening in households across our country, because, while productivity and corporate profits are up, the fruits of that success just hasn't reached many of our families. It's li rn economy and those who a blem worse.
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So I thank you for that.
EMANUEL: I want to make a couple quick points that haven't been made. The Kaiser Foundation did a study. One out of five of our military families rely on either food stamps or the WIC program to make ends meet -- one out of five.
So we are talking about something that's essential to folks.
EMANUEL: The second is, I've participated in an administration where we've written a number of administration policies. I really want to know who the knucklehead is that said that combat pay -- that pay at 3.5 percent is too much. I want to know who the person is that recommended a $40 a month survivor's benefit was too much for the wealthiest country in the world.
Now, I applaud the administration for one simple thing, because when you write a statement of administration policy, not just one person sees it, everybody looks at it, and not one person in that administration said, "You know what? This may be a political problem. Forget the policy. This may be a mistake. We're in the middle of Iraq and Afghanistan and we're going to deny a pay increase of 3.5 percent and survivor benefits of a month for $40."
And nobody who looked at that statement, after everything Patrick said, during combat pay, they opposed it. Imminent danger pay increase -- opposed it. Nobody thought, having seen this, it was wrong.
And since last Thursday when we've been hitting on this, there is still not one statement out of the administration on this. We're asked them to tell us why you would veto a over an increase in pay for our enlistees and a survivor's benefit and nobody will take ownership of this issue. Not one person.
And the only thing I can say, having opposed this pay raise, opposing this survivor's benefit, opposing the combat pay, and opposing the imminent danger pay, they are consistent in their opposition to the pay increases for our enlistees and Guard and Reserve.
Rhetoric is fi
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MURPHY: But I want to talk about what we believe in, the values that we believe in, and the things that we need to do to support our troops.
This defense is making sure that our armed forces, which have been stretched so thin by this president, are ready and able to continue protecting our families here at home.
We support the troops and we are giving them the right equipment, like mine-resistant vehicles. We are giving them a pay raise, not a pay raise that we really should be giving them, but a 3.5 percent pay raise. And we are increasing the benefits to those spouses who had to face the worst news of all -- the death of their husband or wife.
Unfortunately, President Bush's opposition to doing the right thing by our troops is a pattern of neglect. I'm sad to say this is not the first time this has happened under his watch.
When I was back in Baghdad, back in 2003, in August it was 138 degrees. They called it fire month. And the Pentagon under the Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush wanted to cut our combat pay. They wanted to cut our combat pay in the middle of a war zone. And that's an increase in pay to our soldiers in monthly stipend.
And threatening to cut what's called imminent danger pay, and threatening to veto this with a pay raise, shows that President Bush is out of touch with the needs of our military.
With this defense , with this pay raise we're not talking about a lot of money. But if you're an enlisted man with a couple years of service under your belt the money can make all the difference in the world. A pay raise of 3.5 percent for a private making $17,000 a year is less than $1,000 per year.
But with s to pay and young children to support, several hundred dollars a year is a big deal.
MURPHY: As someone who's fought in Iraq and spoken to our families shattered by tragedy, nge e against that.
Having come and spent my career in the
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: But now the issue before us is whether we're going to provide this modest raise.
I met Captain Patrick Murphy in Baghdad in 2003. And he made a tremendously positive impression on me. He was serving with the 82nd Airborne. I was with Jack Reed. We went from the Green Zone into Sadr City to go to the forward operating post that the 82nd had set up. I was privileged to have lunch with then-Captain Murphy.
And, you know, maybe it's because I have a lot of personal contact with the young men and women who wear the uniform from New York, and now increasingly from around our country. Maybe it's because I've done a lot of work with our wounded vets and have seen the impact of losing limbs and suffering from traumatic brain injury. Maybe it's because these are the best that America has to offer. But for the life me, I don't understand why this administration would stand in the way of giving this pay increase to our military.
We know that they deserve it. And we know that we're going to do everything we can in the Democratic Congress to make sure that they get it.
MURPHY: Thanks, ma'am.
Thanks, everybody, for being here. I'm Patrick Murphy from the 8th District of Pennsylvania, which is Bucks County, northeast Philadelphia and a small slice of Montgomery County.
I left active duty back in 2004, when I came back from Baghdad. And I was a member of the 82nd Airborne Division.
I serve on the Armed Services Committee, so we were the ones that did the markup to this . And I always p ntatives. Five of those 49 are veterans. All five are Democrats.
Now, I was kidding with someone the other day. Tim Walz and I share a very small apartment here on Capitol Hill. And someone said, "Well, you know, you were a captain. He was a command sergeant major. So you outrank Tim Walz."
I said, "Obviously, you didn't serve in the military if you think a command sergeant major is outranked by a captain."
(LAUGHTER)
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: Well, thank you so much, Senator Kerry.
I'm proud to join Senator Kerry, along with the members of Congress, to support raising the salaries of our men and women who wear the uniform of our country.
Now, this is a moment of profound challenge for America. And it's especially a moment of great danger for our men and women who serve us.
While there are strong disagreements here in Washington on any subject you can name, I hope we can unite around our common values when it comes to how we treat our service members.
Now, if you serve your country, your country should serve you. That's the promise that we make when a young man or woman signs up to defend the United States of America.
Sadly, too often in the past several years that promise has been broken, whether it's a lack of armored Humvees or body armor, a lack of appropriate care and outpatient facilities at Walter Reed and elsewhere or a lack of the necessary resources in the V.A..
And now we learn that the Bush administration stands against a modest pay increase, a modest pay raise to support the families of those who serve, to cover the expenses of everyday life, to live on the modest salary that we provide for the men and women of our military.
You know, the pattern is clear. The president asks our troops and their families to bear a great burden. But when it comes time to match that sacrifice with enough resources or smart strategies, the president is not there.
We're borrowing ions to cover the cost of the war in Iraq. Think about it this way: Every day, we borrow money from China to pay our troops. I think that undermines our security. Why compound it by not providing the pay raise that our troops need in order to do the work that we've asked them to do?
We obviously have bigger issues -- when we finally are able to address them -- with respect to how we're going to fund the military, what we're going to do with respect to fiscal responsibility and how we're going to take care of the V.A.
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>>6569260
This is a good senpai
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>>6569260
>tfw I had the same plan with a similar image
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>>6569265
Ha, me too but I had another badger pic ready to go.
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>>6569260
You are the hero this thread needs.
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>>6569265
brothers in heresy must stick together
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>Joker cucked again
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>>6569316
Its weird how he guns for weaver.
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>>6569321
Does he? I never even noticed.
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>>6569321
Its just weird he's still at it at all, most people have learned to just ignore him.
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>>6569339
He saw new posters, and he wanted to drive them away. The fact that they drew Pack Street fanart probably didn't help.
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>>6569339
Apparently some people have nothing better to do.
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>>6569346
Was a very cute Ram and Fluff Fox. I hope they do more of the cast, such a cute style.
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are we just waiting for el-faggotburrito to go away before we do a new thread?
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>>6569374
I loved those pics. Loved the Lioness Heiress, too. Both have awesome styles. That really sweepy style of the Pack Street lover is awesome. Almost reminds me like a cleaner, more... pleasant?... Lucius (who has more monstrous and grotesque draws, and I mean this in a good way). And the other artist (093? Mint?) has a really nice chunkiness to their characters. They feel round, but pliable, like you could smoosh them a bit. Hope to see more of them.
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>>6569393
Ya I'm just giving it some time to see if we could get another cleaning done before throwing another one up.
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>>6569400
Smoosh is always a nice characteristic for snuggling.
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If dubs I reveal a horrible secret.
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>>6569413
if dubs you go to sleep and dream of bunny
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>>6569413
Ah well, close.
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>>6569413
if trips you tell us anyway
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>>6569429
You know what?

I'll tell you the secret, no dubs at all...

...I think Charlie is cuter when shipped with Marty.
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>>6569437
THAT'S... actually an interesting idea
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>>6569437
I can agree with that, Marty needs a nice bit of strange fluff to keep him in check. I bet he helps her brush her tail.
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>>6569437
the matching sweaters tell the truth
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>>6569466
G E N I U S
didn't even catch that detail desu
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>>6569437
I see Marty as more of her responsible older brother.
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>>6569471
Right
responsible older brother
that she also fucks
Were on the same page
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>>6569471
And as a responsible older brother he must "help" her with her urges, especially during fox mating season.
>Marty needs to put a whole arm inside Charlie to satisfy her
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New thread where?
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>>6569507
When we reach page 10. We like making Joker wait. Till then, we text post.
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Eh, doesn't look like we're getting another rinsing.

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>>6569509
>>6569509
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