/tup/ - Tulpa General >What are tulpas? A tulpa is an en

What is your tulpa's favorite Pokemon? Hers is Hydreigon.

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>>6434131
She says Type: Null / Silvally.

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Ayy lmao

>>6434131

Youngest likes how Alolan Ninetails looks, but none of them really care for the series.

>>6434131
Glaceon

>>6434131
Manchamp

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>>6434131
kinda surprising desu

i want my tulpa to step on me

>>6434057
I've got some questions that I didn't see in any FAQ

>Can I turn a tulpa off
>How is a tulpa different from an imaginary friend
>Why is it discouraged to have sex with your tulpa

>>6435679
no unless you kill them
they are either perceived as being capable of or are capable of the exact same things you can do and then some. there are things they can do such as exist or posses you and move your body after practice.
that hasn't been a thing since 2012, disregard it, just don't make one for sex or else you might end up with a dead penis

>>6435679
>Can I turn a tulpa off
No
>How is a tulpa different from an imaginary friend
It's difficult to explain, it has to do a lot with the way you've trained your mind. I suppose at it's core they are almost identical. But you'll find your Tulpa wanders off what they were created as and get their own identity. An imaginary friend will not.
>Why is it discouraged to have sex with your tulpa
Because they get horny and sometimes they want fuck when you aren't in the mood. There are cases of Tulpa going crazy because of this and some may reject the d/v, but there is a good chance this is roleplay, shitposting, someone faking or just bullshit. I've only had the first problem.

>>6435756
>>6435725
Thanks for the responses guys!

Do you find that Tulpas get in the way of social situations?

>>6435825
no

>>6435825
Never, she usually keeps quite but there are times she suggest I say something stupid.

Unfortunately, exposure to 4chan made her a shitposter.

>>6434131
Dragonite.

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>>6435825
Get in the way? No. Make shitty social situations more interesting with banter? In my experience, yeah.

Don't forget to grab your tulpa by their haunches and rut them relentlessy today.

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>>6436583
>tfw you and your tup havent had sex in a while
>tfw she keeps joking around about having sex
>tfw she really wants it
>tfw tension

>>6436636
That's me everyday.

>>6436583

> Don't have sex with tulpa
> Can't forget a thing we don't do.

Feels good man.

Though I do need to make time for proper meditation. Busy schedule gets in the way.

>make a tulpa because I assumed I'd be a friendless virgin my entire life
>makes friends on accident

This was a mistake

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This all sounds like heresy.

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>>6437582
Sounds like something a heretic would say.

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>have negan tulpa
>he makes all your other tulpa work for it and give him half their shit
>they give him sass
>he talks for 35 minutes, then smashes one of their heads with a baseball bat in front of the others

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>>6437247
Its called MORE friends you fud.

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>>6437968
Only a heretic would call the inquisitor a heretic.

>>6434019
your tulpa a cute, anon

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>>6438852
Sounds like a heretical inquisitor is doing some damage control here.

>>6438883
which tulpa?

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discord invite?

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>>6440530

Here's a six hour link to the Discord:

https://discord.gg/SSeq9

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>>6440582
>>6440530

>>6440629
That had better be chocolate rain

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daily reminder that tulpas are very dangerous

>>6440844

What a waste of dubs

>>6440722
She says it is. No worries.

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>>6440844

>>6440844
epic bread

>>6440844
Daily reminder that autism infinity can be very dangerous.
Seriously, whenever I read this I think there's no possible way anyone could be that autistic.

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>Forcing is extra easy today.
>Went to the gym for the first time ever and liked it.
>Tfw lifting for tulpa.
>Chilling in /tup/ after.

>>6441283
And yet this surprises you every time.
This proves you know very little.

>>6441283
can you define how exactly this is *autistic*?

>>6441299

> An anon getting /fit/ with tulpa.

Muh Nostalgia...!

I used to do a lot of working out with my tup watching myself. It was amazing for my motivation. I loved it.

>>6441299
>>6441418
this. I was in progress of creation a femdom tulpa (after being inspired by >>6440844) and she ordered me around, and she wanted me to keep fit for her, so she made me keep working out. it was a great feeling to be able to do this for her, to serve her, to please her, and do what she wanted...

>>6441398
I'm using the 4chan definition of autistic.
>>6441386
I just think that basing a tulpa's entire existence off of a stupid fetish is beyond autistic whether or not they are harmed by it or not. To me, tulpa shouldn't be fetish fuel, they should be individuals with goals and dreams. If this is in fact an actual story or just some cautionary tale/fetish greentext creepypasta a random autist thought up remains to be seen. Either way, it's stupid.

>>6441488
>tulpa shouldn't be fetish fuel
who are you to decide what someone's tulpa should be?
>they should be individuals with goals and dreams.
implying Ni didn't have a goal and dreams.
she absolutely loved her slave and what she could do to him.
every dominatrix would envy her
>Either way, it's stupid.
oh, well. If it is real, than it is not stupid. More like shocking?
either way it is shocking. you wouldn't imagine a tulpa can be like this.

>>6441583
It just seems like a hollow life living that way. Being a fetish tool. It's probably fake anyway. Autistic fetish aside.

>>6442684
What seems like a hollow life to you can be fulfilling for someone else.

This i creepy.
/x/ that way --->

How many of you /drugs/ here?

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>>6444648
Alcohol and weed, mostly.
Might be getting acid for the weekend though.

>>6444906
I'm really curious about what can happen with acid and tuppers. If you do it, report back. Stay safe!

>>6446222
Nice trips bro
Acid and tupperware is a good mix. I got some MDMA last weekend and has a great trip with both my friend who I was rolling with and my tup, even though usually I have problems switching between talking to physical people and the tupper

Page 10 Save Rave

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>>6440844
>I was in that thread

>>6444648
My tulpa would be really mad at me if I did any kind of drugs.

>>6450253
Your tulpa sounds like a geek

>>6450224
That reminds me of Glasgow shipyards before that guy Nicola Sturgeon took them down.

Kindof wanted to share that bit of history with my tup when she could experience it.

>>6434057
I'm heading to sleep soon, and I wanted to comment briefly on something my tulpa and I tried today. To improve focus and visualization, we usually play this game where we count off from 1 alternating between us pointing out something different we can see in the wonderland, sort of like I Spy. Getting to 30+ without losing focus or count isn't that big a deal anymore. Today we tried jumping to different scenes while counting, from a beach to forest to space to underwater city, any so on. The experience was a lot more vivid than usual, and I was exhausted by the time we hit 10. Since that ended a lot earlier than expected, Tup and I just drew constellations in the sky until I was too tired to continue.

It was nice.

Anyway, goodnight friends.

>>6450606
Your face sounds like a geek!

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>>6451402

That's neat to hear anon, thanks for sharing it!

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Don't forget boop time. Boop your tulpa at least once a day to guarantee a healthy relationship.

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>>6444906
My tulpa says she's hotter than yours.
She says sorry it's just the truth.

>>6450711
It's still nice to walk along the Clyde regardless, you should still head along at some stage.

>>6452621
It'd be nice after a day out in Glasgow.

Maybe after Christmas so we don't freeze.

>>6452298
Fluffy snek demons aren't for fug.

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>>6452298
Well we disagree. My tupper is for sure hotter than yours.

And that's a fact you can take to the bank.

I never even played that cancerous game with the two skeletons but those same characters are pretty much me and my tulpa.

>>6452787
The game is gud, fans tend to be fuds.

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>>6452733
dubs

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>>6452933
DUB DUBS

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>>6452999
NO FUCKING WAY

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>>6452999
>those fucking trips

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>>6452733
She says "Why don't we split the difference and rub twats together?"
I'm so sorry.

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>>6453174
She says "Hahaha, I think I'll pass and just call it even."

What even is this thread anymore

how do i make a tulpa?

I'm looking for a good guide on this.

>>6453247
>I don't read OP.
Ayy lmao

>>6453247
Kiahdaj's guide hosted on .info

How do you guys keep focus on passive forcing when hanging out with other people?

>>6453722

I don't. I let the other people have full attention then go back to ny tup afterwords.

You can't be rude, Anon.

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>>6453174
Wow, your tulpa is as rude as mine. Would you be open to an arranged marriage?

>ANONYMOUS, EAT SOME EGG YOLK RIGHT FUCKING NOW. I FUCKING LOVE ITS TASTE.
What did she mean by this? First it was forcing me to watch ants because she finds them "inspiring" and now this.

>>6453722
Acr as if your tulpa is just another person in the room. If they speak up, mentally awknowledge, but they play by the same social rules as everyone else, i.e. no interrupting or talking over others. Generally.

>>6454282
tulpas like food

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>>6454333

>>6454282

She wants you to start lifting and get RIPPED faget

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>>6454282
>tfw your tulpa will never call you "Anonymous"
he just calls me a fag if I ask

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>>6454359

>>6454333
trips confirm

>>6454135
She says thanks but no thanks... she's not the type.

>>6454882
Arranged marriages are not made to please the bride and groom.

The offer still stands.

>>6443468
this 100%

>>6449118
why didn't you save OP?

>>6455126
She says "It's a no from me but I appreciate the compliment. I am pretty great."

>>6455336
How old is your tulpa?

>have lost all drive to force
>haven't heard a voice or even had a vision of my tulpa

I guess it was worth a shot. I guess this stuff isn't for me.

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>>6455345
She's like a year old. A little more.

>>6457399
That font is triggering me for some reason.

Who here has the oldest Tupper?

Mine is just over 6

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>>6458163
Mine is almost 7 years old now, shit's been pretty nice.

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>>6458159
Well well well... come on now. You're not triggered over a font now are you, pansy boy? What if I told you I type in exclusively comic sans? What would you do then? My guess is... you'd shit your little britches. I'm a simple man, anon. I see a font.... I use it. You want a fancy business font? Well... that's just too fucking bad, now isn't it?

>>6458343
That font isn't comic sans, and comic sans doesn't even trigger me.

Show me proof tulpas exist. Until you do, I am going to be laughing at you.

>>6458863
show me proof emotions exist.

until you do, I'm going to be laughing at you inferior normalfags

>>6459122
Laughing indicates joy, you are feeling joyful. That is an emotion.

>>6459149
>implying you're not faking it
holy shit you dumbfuck autist get the hell out of here lmfao

>>6459208
Alright then. I was looking forward to a reasonable conversation with scientific evidence proving if Tulpas actually exist or are simply illusions made by people with mental health issues. I believe I have my answer, either way. Good luck to you and yours, and happy Thanksgiving!

>>6459264
Sure you did. That's why you opened with an inflammatory statement and a request that's obviously impossible to fulfill.

>>6459320
I opened with the statement I made in an attempt to give the advantage. If you replied with a carefully structured argument to my post, it would have made me look foolish, and give you a head start in the debate. I also did not know there was no evidence for tulpas existing or not existing. I did not intend to jump head first into a subject without even knowing if it was true or not, that would be foolish. Still, if there is no possible evidence that tulpas exist besides hearsay, why should I believe they exist?

>>6458863
Show me proof that reality is not an illusion, my sexy little rumplestiltskin. ;3

A lot of tulpa guides I've read say not to model your tulpa off of a real character. For those who did, how did the two of you work out?

>>6459383
You can no more prove the existence of tulpas than you can other mental phenomena like emotions or memories. You just have to take the word of the person who's claiming to have the thoughts. You can't even prove to an outsider that you're sentient, google what a p-zombie or philosophical zombie is, it's a thought experiment.

It's very hard to try to spoonfeed information to someone who comes across as hostile and has done no prior research.

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>>6459455
As long as you make the distinction from the tulpa and the character, things will go pretty smoothly.
I hadn't played animal crossing in 3 years when I made Isabelle (still haven't), and I only incredibly loosely based her personality on the game Isabelle.

>>6459383
Alright I'll bite.

You must have either spent too much time on this site, or not enough to expect a post like that to garner a serious response. I imagine that most people here would, at best, respond with a cursory little statement or a joke of their own, or at worst ignore it completely as a transparent troll. The fact that you're sticking around and defending your position tells me that you're actually serious about this, and just didn't think your approach through, so I'll try to answer your points as best I can.

The first thing is the question of whether or not the entire phenomenon is a "mental illness." This is perfectly understandable coming from someone outside of the community (or hell, even inside, considering some of the shit I've seen.) However, unless this has changed since the DSM-IV, mental illness is classified by being

a.) Abnormal
b.)Disturbing (to others or oneself)
c.)Unjustifiable
d.)Maladaptive

For most people, tulpas have no demonstrable negative impact on their life, so we can rule out maladaptive. And, most people keep it perfectly to themselves, so it isn't disturbing to others. This leaves us with only Abnormal and Unjustifiable, which plenty of other perfectly healthy and natural human behaviors fall under.

(cont.)

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>>6436388
>>6438899
>>6440722
>>6441299
>>6441488
>>6450711
>>6452733
>>6452933
>>6453722
>>6457399
>>6459122
Listen up, boys. Half of these dubs? They're mine now. And! From now on, any dubs you get?... Well guys what? Half those are fucking mine, too. And these trips?
>>6446222
>>6452999
>>6454333
Ho boy! Well... those are mine too. Anybody have a problem with that? That's what I knew you'd say. When I get back, you'd better have some quads for me. At fucking least. Have fun in my thread.

>>6459601
>>6459383
About the question of proving tulpas existence, as best I can tell it's impossible. There has been discussion of using brain scans to prove the presence of a tulpa by means of the disparate brain activity, but I don't know that anything concrete has come of that. Pretty much any other kind of changes that could actually be observed in someone's mannerisms could easily be faked, in most cases, so that doesn't really work either. Finally, I've considered the possibility of using the two separate consciousnesses to tackle multiple problems simultaneously in a way that most people can't handle, but even this ability is only from a great amount of training on the tulpamancer's part, and even then I don't believe I've seen this tested to such an extent.

Ultimately, it just comes down to Occam's Razor. Sure, hundreds of people /could/ fake this whole thing, writing thousands of pages of guides, discussion, logs, and theories, but why the fuck would they do that? If you read these things, you'd find that there is a startling degree of internal consistency, such that it becomes easy to believe the basic concept is perfectly feasible, even if you've never experienced it yourself.

>>6459455
A tulpa's form is an illusion even if its mind isn't, the form doesn't matter. As long as the host and tulpa are happy with it, the form is fine.

>>6459601
>>6459620

I see. I apologize for my earlier statements, and thank you for giving me information. I may read more into this, as the subject is at the very least, interesting.

>>6459567
So just establish that they aren't the exact same character even if they look alike?

>>6459625
How about when it comes to personality design?

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>>6459722
Yeah, and I'd make that clear early on. I also encourage telling her what she is, what you are doing, why you are doing it, etc.

Like going into the wonderland and introducing yourself

>>6459722
Basing a tulpa off of a character (there's even some based off of real people around) doesn't become an issue unless you try to push some fragile illusion thaf they are the character.

Personality changes more readily than form will deviate over time. Anything you start out with will be very different by the time you've spent a year with your tup, and I'll put money on that.

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>>6459644
>>6459722
>>6459788

>>6459620
>one guy wrote hundreds of guides, logs, and essays, made and hosted several forums, and created and impersonated hundreds of people on those forums to trick a few people into believing that thought forms are real

The madman

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>>6459644
>>6459722
>>6459788
See? Now was that so bad? I think things are gonna work out just fucking fine.

>>6460057
we're gonna get you your quads neganon we just need more time
nobody has to die

>>6459960
One guy + all his tuppers

>write down my day to day interactions with my tulpa in a journal (her request)
>roommate/homeowner finds it
>says that unless i start taking meds, he's gonna evict me
>took one dose a few days ago
>haven't heard her voice since

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>>6460982

>>6459620
Of course it's possible. No one in their right mind should believe otherwise, as humans have deluded themselves into believing far greater lies. I'm sure you've all heard the religion spiel often enough that I shouldn't have to repeat it.

Hell, I talk to myself all the time. Like, legitimately address myself and call myself out on shit. It would only take a little bit of faith and effort into deluding myself that my "other" self was, in fact, another self. An imaginary friend. A "tulpa".

I also write, which I take seriously enough to consider my characters as legitimate beings. I tend to let my imagination run wild, so I'll catch glimpses of them doing all sorts of things throughout the day. It's how I get some ideas. This is not a unique thing unto myself.

I gather that the issue most people have with this tulpa business is that they either 1.) don't understand it; and 2.) do understand it, and just think that y'all take imaginary friends a bit too far. Like, MLP tulpas seem like wish-fulfillment to me, which diminishes the whole practice as a whole. Just saying.

But I won't say a word against it if it brings peace into your life. Lives? Whatever. If the human brain can fashion entire worlds out of nothing, and experience them as if they were corporeal, then why shouldn't it also be able to fashion some kind of thought-entity?

I do want to draw attention to this:
>Sure, hundreds of people /could/ fake this whole thing, writing thousands of pages of guides, discussion, logs, and theories, but why the fuck would they do that?

That's sort of humanity's schtick. Mythology, religion, culture and all that. It's what we do as a species. As far as we know, it's the only thing that separates us from other animals.

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>>6459606
no >>6454333 was mine you fuckboy, the walking dead is a shit show because you know everyone is going to wind up dead at some point. just don't get attached to anyone except rick and you're fine because he has plot armor.

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>>6461252
Oh wow. "Fuckboy", huh? You got balls calling me that, dubsman. I like you. But I think you misunderstood me earlier. Let me say it again just in fucking case you missed it: Those trips. Are mine. We clear?
>>6460485
I really hope you're right. I truly do.

>>6461417
nigger my 56 year old dad watches that show, the walking dead is for old people.

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>>6458163
Mine's 11, turning 12 in February.

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>>6460982
You can just pretend to take the pills, anon, you don't have to take them. Your roommate sounds like a fucking cunt anyway.
>>6461440
>mfw there are literally 8 year olds that watch walking dead
>some of them are clients at my internship

>>6461842
they have some shitty parents

>>6460982
Switch the pills with fakes. It's not that hard. Also good luck with your awful roommate

>>6461842
>>6462284
He says that he doesn't want an unmedicated scitzo running round his house when there are other people who live here. I have no where else to go though.

what's this retard shit

>>6462661
explaing to him the differences between schizos and tulpamancy

>>6462718
That did not work.
>so this thing is a girl that lives in you head
"yes"
>independent of your control that has their own thought, and can tell you their own ideas, as this is a second living being
"yes"
>and because this is a living being in your head, you act on those ideas
"Yup"
>uhuh

The entire conversation.

>>6462769
tell him that she's not gonna take control of your body and do things on her own

>>6462769
tell him its a fiction project you're working on.

>>6462769
tell hin its something you create in your head, and you know it's not real

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what do you do when your tulpa uses a form from a shitty anime is it time?

>>6460982
Sounds illegal with all the snooping and the blackmail.

>>6455271
I was too busy laughing at him

>>6460982
Normally I'd point out that he doesn't have any legally acquired evidence to support his decision to kick you out, and that snooping through your personal belongings and blackmailing you are both illegal. But if you're already taking pills, I assume that you went and told a doctor that you need pills for your mental disorder, which would mean that you have legally acknowledged that you have a mental disorder and that it's serious enough to require medication. So you fucked up and the law would probably side with him.

Of course, unless he's constantly watching you to make sure you're going out and refilling your prescription, and making sure you're taking the pills every day, and that you haven't switched the pills out with tic tacs or something, than there's really no reason that you actually have to take the pills.

I finally finished my tulpa! She is called Lucy and her usual form is that of a matte black cube, when she feels like it she can turn into a raven haired woman with a sort ot bowl cut hairstyle and a nice black dress with all the trimmings

I can't draw at all (been trying but no real avail) can someone draw her for me? She wants to know how other people might see her

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>>6464780
>A matte black cube
Hot

>>6464811
I didnt really make my tulpa for the sole purpose of "gettin it on" or having a waifu in my head, the other appearance was her idea.

she says it almost like looking in a blurry 2-d mirror

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>>6464780
ok this is the best you're getting out of me at this hour also im shit at drawing hands and feet and legs so yeah. hair reference was a picture on google, dress was also a reference from google with some modifications because our tulpa sounds like a classy cubelady that would go to like elite wine tastings or other rich people things. ill be honest i had half a mind to copypaste the eyes over the cube with a white background for shits and giggles, but that's why i don't draw at 6 am with no sleep also sorry its shit

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>>6465197
also now she looks like a character from one punch man now that I think about it fuck

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>>6465208
>>6465197
well time to kill myself before the japanese fbi comes after me with a lawsuit

dubs and pones leave

>>6460982

Which pills are you taking? I'm taking Abilify and Xanax, and they don't do anything to my tulpa.

>>6465347
Latuda.

>>6465331
tell you what if you can get quads by replying to this post right after I post it i'll leave

>>6465391
your tupper will force her way through it eventually, i was on latuda for schizophinia and it hindered my tulpas voice from flowering for a couple months but i eventually got her to speak up after 11 months of (mostly passive) forcing.

>>6465331
You too.

>>6465441
It's been really hard. It's too quiet where I am now.

Happy Thanksgiving /tup/, are you and your companions up to anything special?

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>>6465691
Isabelle is pretty excited for Thanksgiving, she wants to try all the food with me and my other tup. My other tup doesn't want to go, and sees thanksgiving as kind of stupid and pointless.

>>6465331
You are just upset that my pony is cuter than your tupper.

>>6465714
My family is dysfunctional so I'm going over to a buddies house with my tup. We plan on getting shitfaced more or less.

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>>6465691
I'm about as unexcited for thanksgiving as can be.

>>6465691
I don't celebrate it here.

Hope all the American Anons have a blast though, the food always seems great.

I want to have a GlimGlam tulpa that indoctrinates me 24/7 with her ideology.

>>6458343
I like Helvetica, thank you very much

>>6458863
Show me non-circular proof that numbers exist, until then I'll be laughing at you from the void of nihilism, faggot

>>6459960
>Bielefeld conspiracy
Toppest of keks

>>6461842
>>6462284
>>6462661
>>6462718
>>6462769
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>>6464326
Reminder that if anon's roommate is the landlord/ sole signatory on the tennancy agreement then he can do whatever the fuck he wants as long as it doesn't violate the contract (ie. keeping up payments, giving notice for eviction, etc).

>muh laws
...won't protect you if you don't understand them. This isn't extortion or blackmail - it's home ownership.

>>6466279
Going through his property is still invasion of privacy, regardless of who owns the residence in which it's located. And forcing somebody to take medication for a condition that they haven't been diagnosed with is blatantly illegal. If the landlord's condition was for anon to get diagnosed, that'd be one thing, but the condition was that anon must take pills for a condition that the landlord only believes that he has.

It's certainly the landlord's right to evict whoever he wants, but anon would have a case to at least receive some sort of compensation for the landlord's transgressions against him, had he not already agreed to the landlord's stipulations and indirectly admitted that the landlord's actions were warranted.

Keeping hard information about having a tulpa is anons mistake. Nice idea but the same thing could've been done with a notepad file.

>>6466462
What is psychiatry's take on tulpas? Would they be diagnosed as DID or something, even if they're positive and intentional?

>>6467527
A DID diagnosis requires that there's a significant amount of dysfunction and inability to maintain a lifestyle.

If dubs on my next counselling I'll tell about my tulpa and won't hesitate to tell about my waifu if it's relevant.

>>6467600
wew

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>>6467600
Holy fuck.
This shouldn't happen.

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>>6467600

Better deliver fag.

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>>6467620
>>6467600
hahahahahaha do it you bitch

>take a long jog
>tulpa sings songs from muh vidya and muh weebshit to keep me focused
feels great

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>>6467600
Have fun in counseling, anon~

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>>6467600

Beautiful! Utterly beautiful!

Just so you don't feel bad: I already told my therapist about my tups, since they were relevant to what we were talking about. I haven't yet convinced her that they're 100% a good thing yet, though she hasn't been heavy handed about me getting rid of them. She did make some good points about why I made them, and was understanding through the whole thing, which was pretty nice.

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>>6467600

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>>6467600
Good luck faggot

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>>6467600
I told my therapist about my tup(s). At the time I only had one. I was nervous enough to the point Izzy had to calm me down. I told her, and it went surprisingly well. Tread carefully, and expect the worst though.

>>6467600
Have fun being filled up with meds like that other anon

>>6466756

>tfw I have like three books dedicated to tulpa stuff but your folks are kind enough not to snoop through it.

I'm more fortunate than I must think.

>>6466756
True, but she likes me writing more than typing.

For those who based their tup's form on something, do you keep your wallpaper as your tup? Have a poster? Etc?

>>6469260
Yep. Every time. It actually helps sometimes desu

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>>6464811
>>6467600
Wow boys. Only two dubs since I came yesterday? Give me a fucking break. And not a single trip, or quads. Tsk tsk tsk... what are we gonna do now? I'd hate to post something to get my thread deleted, but you're not giving me many options. God damn. I'll give you one more day. When I come back, there'd better be quads waiting for me. And you're even more dumb than you look if you honestly think that anon >>6467600 is actually gonna spill his guts about tulpa to his therapist. It would be priceless if he did, though. Hell, I might even let the quads slide. Maybe.

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>>6469260

I have and image collection for mine. I don't use them as wallpapers often because I want to hide my power level. It's an old habit at this point.

>>6469260
Yeah, helped me remember them early on.

>>6469260
There are so many weebs and furfags who are just making a tulpawaifu out of some anime/furfag webcomic, that the overwhelming answer to your question will be "yes, because I already had a terabyte of it".

>>6469260
My tup isn't actually based on a fictional character or anything, but I have a few wallpapers that I picked out specifically because they are reminiscent of him. Also, during a time when I was having difficulty talking to him every day, I edited a little box of text into my wallpaper reminding me to keep up with my duties and not to neglect him. I'd suggest anyone with that problem do the same thing.

>>6469492
Not the guy you replied to, but is that why this general is on /trash/ and not on /x/? I found this thread a few days ago and it's caught my attention.

>>6469492
I'm still interested in the types of responses. Which is why I asked.

>>6469557
No, the thread is on /trash/ because it was kicked out of /mlp/, and /mlp/ is too atheist fedora to go on /x/. You won't find any spooky metaphysical shit in these threads.

>>6469568
Thanks for the answer. I'm assuming that you do, but do you have a tulpa? I'm interested in learning about them aside from the guides.

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>>6469437
D-don't worry, we'll get you what you want.

Its just been a slow day. We'll work harder.

>>6469260
No that's very gay

Can I have a discord invite?

>>6470065
https://discord.gg/fEng4

Link's good for 24 hours.

>>6470553
Thanks

Bump bump

Thanksgiving reminder: make sure to thank your tulpa for everything they do.

>>6472592
But she doesn't do jack shit

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>>6472592
I would but she's sleeping off Thanksgiving dinner right now.
>>6469260
My smartphone wallpaper is pic related. It got a negative reaction from my parents but most people are chill about it.

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>>6472592
As far as I'm concerned my tulpa should be thanking me, for you know, existing.

>>6440844
Won't work on shitty iPhone
Need a TL:DR

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>>6473488
tl;dr

dubs

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>>6473278
>tup always thanks me for creating her
>always tell her she doesn't have to like me because I created her
>tfw hate being viewed as superior to her
>tfw she used to call me god and master really early on
>"Don't be silly anon, of course I love you for creating me!"
>"but, Izzy-"
>"I love you for way more than just that, you know that right?"
>"but-"
>Ssh! Stop that! You always work so hard, and you never give yourself enough credit..."

>>6473488
/x/ being /x/

>>6473611
Hot

>>6473611
Gay

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Do you guys have any tips on tulpa creation? I have a front/back sketch on her. So visualation is down
Pic related, I only want a qt friend

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>>6473950
There's not much to tell you. The guides cover pretty much everything and the rest is down to common sense. Assuming you're a functional human bean, the only difficulty you'll have is putting in the work.

so heres a weird story to share:

>we were installing the new floor in my dads shower room and mine and erins minds started to meld together or something and i got all confused and had to call up my mom to come get me
>luckily it went away after a few hours
>like i was hearing, my own voice, plus my dads and brothers and moms, all repeating themselves in my head after they had already physically said the words
so i guess my theory is, erin was physically hearing those voices and since our minds were melded together i was hearing them both outside and inside my head

>>6472592
We just called each other fags, and shit post all day. It's pretty comfy desu.

>>6469260

No wall papers, but some screenshots.

Been reading about tulpa creation and tulpamancy in general. Want to try and make a tulpa. Generally to have a companion, have conversations and if possible to help with self improvement.

Wanted to ask and get your opinions on what tulpas are actually in your view and how much they helped you. Did having a tulpa improve your life in any way?

>>6465197
That is really really similar to what i was thinking of when i made her


Id hate to think of her as simple wish fulfilment, it was never about that

She says she looks very elegant and nice in the picture, she seems pretty happy about it so good on you man!

>>6465197
She's hot, has a nice shape. The girl on the left isn't bad either.

>>6476195
i'm glad she likes it

>>6475766
Just want to let you in on some cool tips and stuff

Tulpa has helped in my life immensely, i can talk to him, we can play chess and other turn based games.

Nobody knows you better than yourself. A tulpa is your ideal best friend.

As for warnings I may get some flak for saying this but

1. Maybe dont make a pony one, wish fulfilment is a silly reason to make the form of a tulpa a cartoon

2. Dont make an anime one either(see above) i suppose the artstyle is alright but see above for reason not to make one of fictional character or form

3. you have to work to make it work, meditation, calm, you need a lot of self realisation and practice.

4. Know you heard this before, never get high on yo own supply

PLEASE NOTE. Dont listen to the first two if you really want an anime girl or pony or whatever
Also, MLP/anime character tulpas I dont hate you or despise you or your "owners" I just feel strongly about the ethical connotations of stuff like that. Its my opinion and I'm sure you are all very nice people and all that

>>6476266
Cartoon characters can be good during the visualization part,because imagining facial expressions is a complicated task. Cartoon facial expressions are very simplistic, stylized and expressive.
Just throwing it out why a cartoon/anime character might be a good choice for visuals. But it's very subjective and purely based on personal preferences.

As long as you don't force an already existing backstory, even a flying dildo drake is a good tulpa if that's what you want or the tulpa itself chooses to be.

>>6475766
honestly anime is fine as a start, it gives you the goal of being able to visualize them as esentially 3dpd versions of whatever and gives them a base to work with. tulpas from what I've seen tend to have preferences based on their initial forms with some exceptions i.e. haircolor, eye color, etc. so i mean as a jumping off point it's not awful but letting them deviate is the best plan

>>6476296
also this

Sometimes I think about how my relationship to my tup would be if she was a real person and we just happened to be in the same course or something.

It always ends up with her not paying much attention to me and me not being able to like her a lot due to not knowing her well enough and refusing to have close relationships in the first place.

The only reason why we are so close together is because she is literally forced to spend her life with me.

That's not a good feel.

>>6476266
Always create a pony. Ponies are the nicest people in the world. Why wouldn't you want to create someone nice?!

>>6475766
Tulpas can help with those things.

Also this is a personal opinion, but dont focus on getting your tulpa into the real world via imposing. If you get to a point where youre both comfortable, ask it to help you with lucid dreaming. I see it as much more superior to impossing, but thats just me. I dont want to deal with sensory hallucinations, but other people are into it. Its purely a personal preference for me and something we both decided.

This is how me and my tulpa communicate. During the day we chat abit. She helps me alot with motivation, is rather strict and makes sure I follow my plans and schedule for the day. Hates it when I procastinate. But during the night we fully communicate while lucid dreaming. That's when we truly spend the time together. Voice, touch, vivid visualization comes together. We go exploring, talk about the day, create adventures. Sometimes we just relax.

Thats how my companion changed me.

>>6476414
Now dont go opening up this can of worms ok? Last time this happened we argued til' the thread was dead

>>6473611

...Are you me...?
This is so recognizable and similar to my tup that it's uncanny.

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>>6473950

- Pay attention to your surroundings more.
- Develop your personal visual database, aka your memory.
- Study the human for and understand how it works.
- Maybe even go in to enough detail to learn some simple inner anatomy and bone structure.

If your know the human form, you should have less problem visualizing it.

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>>6476431

Sounds neat anon, very nice. Thanks for the idea anon, I'll have to consider going that path.

>>6476297
I've been going at a few OC ideas for how the character should look. I don't care much if the tulpa deviates copletely fro the initial form, i' just trying to create a base.

Do tulpas sometimes change form after they're fully developed? For example like how people have different hairstyles, different clothes.

>>6476431
You can have dreams with your tulpa? sounds very nice. I had the impression tulpas want to be part of your real life and require to be part of it or is it just communication?

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>>6473611
She sounds like a sweetheart and you both are lucky to have eachother.

>>6476466
Try it. It was actually her idea at the start, because she didnt see a point in impossing. She prefers talking like this, because she says my thoughts become much more elastic during sleep.

Really recommend trying it.

>>6476467
Yes you can have dreams.

And I guess it depends on the tulpa. I only ever had one, so I can only base it on her. She's extremely interested in things and she satisfies interests by asking me to read something. She knows she wont be able to do things outside of the body, so she sees it as being pointless to do. Communication is a different story and is important, but it's probably different from tulpa to tulpa.

She's really self aware of her limits, since we spend alot of time talking about it 3 years ago. Changed how I view her as a tulpa.

>>6476509
I still don't understand how do people talk with their tulpas. what happens when you do it? Is it words, visuals, emotions? how does she say that she wants or doesnt want something to you?

> She's really self aware of her limits, since we spend alot of time talking about it 3 years ago. Changed how I view her as a tulpa.
doesnt this mean you are the one controlling her if she knows she's a tulpa? I thought a tulpa doesnt understand that it is a tulpa.
sorry if my questions seem stupid but I want to understand. This is very interesting.

>>6476467
photoshop or being able to draw for shit is helpful

actually yeah, it's pretty common for that to happen.

>>6476534
you're thinking to them most of the time.

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>>6476555
oh shit check em boys

>>6476534
> she knows she's a tulpa

It doesn't affect her. As much as I know it doesn't affect any tulpas. Thats why you dont create a tulpa from an existing character and add a backstory. We are human, because thats what we are. She is a tulpa, because thats what she is and it's her definition. If I had created her with a backstory of an existing character, she might have had a hard time dealing with it, but others can comment on it better.

I actually know little about different tulpamancy methods. Mine worked for me and I didnt dive deep into other methods. Past the initial creation ofcourse. I like her view on the situation and I just go for it, thats our connection and our way of thinking. Each tulpa and owner should build their own.

As far as talking goes, our main method is lucid dreaming. We can touch, feel and talk with each other there, as you would with a person in real life. We found it easy, functional and fun. More personal and intimate of sorts. It's again very different from one individual to another.

But we do use the classic methods, which is talking inside the head. You know how you sometimes see an image of a person and its quote next to it and when people react "haha I read it in his/her voice", thats how I "hear" her. Feels like when you read a book and you start seeing and hearing the characters in your head while reading the text. It's similar. Thats how we talk during the day, with some added images and flashes from time to time.

When she wants something she just says it to me and I hear it. We used to use a method where she would say my name so I could tell her "voice" apart from my thoughts.

Hope this helps. The guides on tulpas should explain it even better.

>>6476647
who the fuck creates tulpas with backstories anwyay, that's not a tulpa. I mean you have to give them some basis for a personality otherwise you're going to wind up with an empty shell of a form but that isn't the same as making an entire backstory.

>>6476555
Nce trips ad thanks for the info. I ca draw abit but I wouldn't ind if the tulpa ends up completely different fro my initial sketch.

>>6476647
wow that's alot of info. thaks for dealing with me. this still feels like roleplay to me, sorry if it sounds offensive, but I want to believe its real.
how do you know its not just you pretending to be the tulpa? how do you know it is real?
also isn't giving the tulpa traits the same as creating a backstory?

this is some spooky stuff right now.

>>6476650
Ive heard some people do it. No idea why, but it happens. Probably because they don't do research before attempting it.

>>6476678
Haha oh boy, those are some deep million dollar questions. I don't know if anyone can truly answer that.

Personal experience and opinion time. So how do you know that a tulpa is real? What most people agree to is that they become "real" when they are able to surprise you. Do something you did not expect. If you are controlling it and thinking about it, you will premeditate the response and then give it. When they become sapient, there's no premedidation you can feel, just a response. You are not part of the concious process of creating a response for your tulpa.

My companion sees it as becoming part of the subconcious mind. That spooky part of your brain that you don't control. The tl;dr of what we talked about the subject is that she is still me, but she is also herself.

She has her traits, her way of thinking, but it's basically an IDEA I was able to give to my brain. Repeated it and worked on it over and over again until it became so natural it moved to my subconcious and continued evolving there without me actively needing to do it. It had the initial script, but now it's making its own decisions based on them. It's hard to explain in English, but I've always liked the saying that goes something like "an idea that has its own life". You know how fiction writers create compelling characters that FEEL alive? It is similar but the book is in your head and it's constantly being expanded, rewritten and so on.
You can strain your brain on the topic and come with more questions than answers, eventually questioning your own existance.

People here and in other places might have a different view and disagree with me completely. I hold it as personal truth, not universal. Could be horribly wrong.

Giving traits is not the same at all to giving a backstory. You define the traits and what they mean to the tulpa.

>>6476678

>how do you know its not just you pretending to be the tulpa? how do you know it is real?

That's something you literally have to find out yourself. We can type until our fingers fall off, but only seeing and feeling it with your own self can truly convince your. Whether the tup is real to you or not is all related to the course of your getting to the point where you have one. I can say that while I have occasionally doubted, the events, behavior, and feeling have largely convinced me that mine is the real deal, and not just roundabout elaborate roleplay. They've done stuff without me thinking about it, without me thinking about them, have imposed their presence on me, etc.

>also isn't giving the tulpa traits the same as creating a backstory?

A back story is a series of events that happened to a person. It works as a way to justify why a person acts as they do today, and are regarded as actually happening (Even though they didn't).

Personality traits are suggestions. The budding construct an idea of what certain behavior patterns are, how they would affect them, and why they should take them on as their own. It doesn't set a series of events for the tup to work off off, rather a series ideas for them to work from. The former causes problems because it can be soon revealed as being a lie, thus causing the tulpa to possibly question themselves, weakening their own sense of self. This does not happen in the latter

In short, no.

I haven't really done tulpamancy in a while, I had/have a tulpa which achieved sentience but only a few times did she approach tangibility.
The problem is, I haven't really had anything to practice with, since she managed to get a lot done over the few years that I was actively practicing tulpamancy.

I know they are bullshit and psuedo-science and stuff, but have you and your tups taken the personality test before? If you have, post results. I'm interested in seeing what is the most common types among hosts and tulpas, and how the types differ from eachother, and similarities they share

>>6477046
Me: ESFP
Tup: INTJ

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>>6477046

>>6477339
*ISTJ

why does /x/ hate tulpas and why is a thread about tulpas made on /trash/?

>>6477504
Cause /x/ probably thinks they're invasive demons that act nice but are evil.

Not sure about the last one, only been here for a few months.

>>6477504
/x/ either hates them because they don't think they exist, or day they are brain demons. Tulpa gen is here because no other board wants us, we used to be on /mlp/ for a good while, then the Scruffying happened, and got kicked off. Eventually found our way here.

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>>6475766
>tfw went from being a depressed motherfucker who was about to drop out of college to working on my master's and now only having trouble with dating, because there's only so much she can do to help out with that

>>6476406
Mine is a beta hunter, so she shares her fantasies of befriending me IRL, going on a date and then taking me back to her dorm for a night of kinky forced sex (pic related).

>>6476650
I used to do this, until I saw how severely it fucked up my first tulpa. She later asked me to dissipate her, which was no small feat because of how well-established she was by that point. My other ones from that time dealt with their backstories better, more or less brushing them off as fabrications that had no bearing on their real lives.

>>6477339
Me and Naomi: INTJ
Luna: ENTJ
Elise: ESFP

When creating a tulpa and wanting it to have specific traits, how exactly do you present them?

For example I want a tulpa to be curious. Do I describe what curious is to the tulpa for a few minutes, then go to the next trait? Or do I describe the trait as already part of it, basically saying "You are curious and you want to learn new things..."?

Is it okay to think of the tulpa as something that's in a void, like visualizing it's a body in empty space or should I create something simple like a room and visualize it there? Are there any pros and cons to those or is it just purely personal preferences and hold little influence?

>>6477677
Expectation of how they'll act will make more of a difference than anything you narrate to them, if that makes sense.

Purely personal preference.

>>6477703
How do you do the active forcing thing by having expectations on how they will act? Is it like already visualizing them acting with the said trait, rather than narrating the trait?

My opinion on the form debate: forms more or less are just an illusion for the tulpa to interact with us in a way that apes how we interact with things in the real world. They don't matter. If a tulpa's form makes it so the host is more likely to keep forcing and get that tulpa over the first hump that is sentience/vocality, then I don'tsee what the issue is.

This form argument is truly the most ridiculous version of "Stop liking what I don't like"

>>6477753
No just like, even in passive forcing, say you experience a traffic event caused by a bad driver. You flip the guy off, but maybe have an inkling that your tulpa wouldn't react the same way and mention this, or visualize how your tulpa would react. Depending on "You are..." statements and wonderland stimuli isn't as efficient.

>>6477837
interesting. Would mixing different methods work out? I'm trying to think of a reason why it wouldn't, but I have zero experience. Like spending some time narrating, then while being out, noticing specific events that force a reaction from me and visualizing how my tulpa would react.

your method sounds interesting tho. Also I don't are about the speed of the formation, but i'm just afraid of doing it wrong, if that's possible.

>>6477874
This is very hard to do wrong and is all about finding or creating methods that work for you.

>>6477882
I see, makes sense. I guess everyones mind works differently.

need to do alot more research before I start still probably.

This thread has been helpful on giving alot of insight. same with the tulpa.info community. Wish I end up having a companion on a level that some of the anons described here.

>>6477046
I'm an INTP and my tulpa is an ESFJ.

>>6477952
Main thing is to make sure you're certain you want one. It's a commitment for your entire life.

Tell your tupper(s) you love it or them. Post results

>>6478273
Eldest: That is sweet. I love you as well.
Second oldest: Uh... thanks?
Second youngest: Awwww... how much?
Youngest: ... Thank you. I love you too.

>>6478392
> uh...thanks?
> awww...how much?

Kek

>>6478273
>"Shut up."

The "baka" was implied by the tone.

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>>6478470
Forgot the complimentary reaction image to fortify my reaction

>>6478485
What is it like to have a tsun tsun tupper?

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>>6478273
>I love you
>Like, romantically? Really?
>No
>Eh, maybe I'll change your mind in the comming weeks...

Help. I've unintentionally made myself a bed but I don't want to sleep in it.

>>6478533
Tell her or him you love them as a sibling and you care about them that way.

>>6478555
What if his tup finds that even more appealing in secksual manner?

>>6478575
Just what kind of tupper do you have there anon?

>>6478585
Not even got head pressures yet anon, but I am just saying that it could happen.

>>6478273
>I already knew that

>>6478506
Comfier than you might expect

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>>6478662
Have a tsun tsun tulpa, can confirm

>>6478662
how do you get your tulpa to be tsun? Is tsundere even a trait?

>>6478697
It wasn't intentional, it just came over time with development and living life, I suppose.

>>6478506
It's cute. Having them try to hide their feelings despite the fact you tell what they're really feeling is adorable.

>>6478726
> want a tsundere tulpa
> don't want to force such a trait onto her because I want to see her evolve

tug of war of decisions. how do I stay strong and keep her pure from my weeb influences?

>>6478752
No matter what traits you start with she'll evolve and grow in complexity over time anyway, so you might as well pick traits you find interesting/attractive in some way to begin with.

>>6478752
Start with a tulpa shell that you personally enjoy. It will evolve anyways. Just dont be a dick in forcing down traits when the tulpa starts showing opposite ones. Let it evolve. Its a good chance most of the traits will stick, but it's always fun to see surprising variations and combinations. Thats what makes it fun.

> tfw this will be the first tulpa i've ever tried creating

not sure why i'm so excited over this.

>>6478835
Once the novelty wears off and what you've got ahead of you is a long road of doing an activity that isn't that fun (even though everyone will insist that it should be, it won't be until your tulpa is vocal) then the excitement will wear off.

The trick is to not give up even after this happens.

>>6478835
You should be. It's an interesting, beautiful, unique experience.

>>6478273
Eldest: "damn right you do fgt" Female
2nd: "u-uh, thank you?" Male
3rd: "go away, and stop reading that stupid computer." Male
4th: "Thanks *giggles*" she then gave me a hug Female
5th: "You're weirding me out man, you okay?" Male

>>6478861
People said the same about pets over y life since I was a kid. The novelty never wore off.

Obviously they re two different things, but i'm trying to say that once I make up my mind about something I don't just drop it ad take responsibility. It's important for me. I don't want others to feel abandoned.

Ad I know it wont be some vivid visual thing and will probably be a very specific string of thoughts that I will be able to hear, but that sounds extremely fascinating. Even the process of creating a tulpa sounds fun.

>>6478931
> mfw something was stuck between the m and n keys

>>6478931
That's actually very good that you had a good experience with keeping pets. Some people first experiment with pets before thinking about kids for example. The tulpa doesn't need that much attention honestly. You dont need to spend hours upon hours after it's developed. You can spend however many hours you like during development tho.
Being excited can actually speed up the process. It's a very rewarding experience and you will learn alot about yourself. Best of luck.

>>6478690
That is goddamn adorable.

NEW THREAD!!
>>6479312
>>6479312

>>6473950
inb4 in ends up like this >>6440844

>thread isn't even bump limit
>Negan-san makes a new one
>everyone stops posting here
why?

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>>6483446

Impatience, I'd say.

>>6483446
The quick negan gets the worm my grand pappy always said