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Zootopia Thread: Twitchy boopers Edition

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More information: derpy.me/trashthematicthursdays
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>>6325067
ALIFORNIA HERE I COME

RIGHT BACK WHERE I STARTED FROM
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you got it, OP
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>>6325146
>I could see Percy being the reincarnation of some forgotten martyr from the 16th century.
>"Gentle Percius, in preventing the chapel from defilment by the invading Livonians, wed his soul to Christ, in the year of our Lord 1532"

Is it weird that I'm absolutely all for this?

Hell maybe he was named for someone biblical. I could see his father stemming from a somewhat more religious family.
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I want to cum inside of Nicholas Wilde
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Why
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>>6325217
>>6325218
Because he's hot. And I'd guess he would make the sexiest moans.
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>>6325063
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>>6325218
Because we love you <3
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>Nick was lost.
>Completely and utterly lost.
>It was an unfamiliar feeling; he grew up walking every street in Zootopia and thus knew where everything was in the city.
>The fox could probably walk from Tundratown to the Rainforest District blindfolded!
>But here, in the Hopps Burrow, he was in absolutely new territory and had no idea where his room was.
>And it was all Judy’s fault.
>Judy had shown him one of the guest room, gave him all of sixty seconds to put down his stuff for their week winter vacation, before dragging him off to show off her partner on the force to everyone in her family.
>It was massive chaos with mixed reactions; some bunnies distrusted him, some were neutral, and some had taken a liking to him.
>One bunny in particular was Violet, one of Judy’s older sisters.
>Unlike most of the other rabbits, who hesitated to talk to him, she seemed to have no qualms asking Nick about his life as a fox cop in Zootopia which he obviously embellished for everyone’s entertainment.
>Once she had started conversing with him that seemed to get the ball rolling for every other rabbit to stand up and talk to him.
>Now, hours later, Nick finds himself in one of the hallways of the Hopps household, with Judy nowhere to be found, most of the household asleep and the fox unsure if he is even on the same level of his guest room.
>He should have asked a rabbit where Judy’s room was but that would mean admitting he was a fox helpless in a bunny burrow. He had his pride!
>’Well’ his tired brain thought, ‘that pride can go off itself.’
>Nick had no idea how long he spent roaming these halls but he was getting the thought that it might be better just to crash on one of the couches for the night.
>The fox turned around, ready to make the grueling trip through this maze to a living room, only to find himself muzzle to muzzle with Violet.


Cont.
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>>6325217
I want Nicholas Wilde to cum inside of ME
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>>6325218
>>6325235
Yes we sure do!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTKSLk-zNpc
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Post tube dudes
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>>6325218
im
vgfon to pound
a vr
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I want to play with Nick's fuzzy wuzzy tail
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>>6325294
Why wasn't I permab&?
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>>6321214
Hey, MisterE, sorry for being late with my opinion on the chapter that I promised before, I had the day full.
I can say that all in all I liked this instance, you can the growth of Becca as a three dimensional character, understanding that life it is not easy for everyone like it was for her. I liked also the stealth reference to Henrietta.
However that are some points that need improvement, imho. The first is the support group stories: for me it would be better if there was some story, among the others, that made a particular impact on Becca, and, as such, it is narrated to us. Something really heavy, that made the hyena narrating it break into tears. In this case the reader will feel the same of Becca, the weight of the problem of having a pseudopenis.
Also I see that you still maintained the friendly situation of all the ZPD toward the hyena. I personally think that adding characters of the police that don't like the extremely open behaviour of Becca could be an interesting addition, but this is for you to choose.
And a last thing, be careful when using particular expressions like 'And man,..' It may be because I'm picky, but for me they ruin the immersion a little.
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>>6325267
>>6325287
>These disgusting flanges
I wish Inky had never started drawing animal dicks.
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>>6325306
I looks very bristly, not quite soft.
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>>6325327
It would have never happened if this place liked human dicks.
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>>6325339
I LIKE HUMAN DICKS
PLENTY OF US DO
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>>6325235
Why do rabbits do this? Can't they breath without moving their nose? What is the function of it?

>>6325261
I'd like to take this moment to point out that there is an important rule to keep in mind at all times:

The VRbit is not for lewding.

If you have trouble remembering it, try this simple mnemonic device: The Very Idea Never Flies, Larry! Its also great in case Larry the Wolf comes along and decides he wants to lewd the VRbit and you can tell him 'no'.

>>6325295
Do you think smaller mammals are used by richer mammals as Christmas Tree ornaments? Because when I saw this I immediately thought of putting him on top of a Christmas Tree.
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>>6325363
Then be more vocal!

Or if you want a lewd particularly with human dicks, feel free to ask! It might be sketchy/lazy for easier editing, but I can do it!

It's not like I can get a general consensus for it, and I get screamed at more often when I draw human dicks then when I draw weird animal ones.

>>6325371
>Do you think smaller mammals are used by richer mammals as Christmas Tree ornaments?

Maybe if the smaller mammals got paid to. Otherwise that'd be slavery.
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>>6325371
>Larry the Wolf
>Going in the house of a coyote first and a jackal then

The little bun seems to have a things for knots
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>>6325411
>Then be more vocal!
I SPEAK UP ALMOST EVERY TIME YOU POST AWFUL ANIMAL DICKS.
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Repostin' in case Clunk shows up.

Short Tails - Ch 1: The Skinnymen
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6682150/chapters/15281737
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>>6325419
What are you implying?
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Jeepers, it seems pretty nice and quiet in here tonight.
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>>6325458
Is that the painter-jackal with the child-bearing hips?
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>>6325411
Well to counter that guys vote, I really like animal dicks most of the time. Kangaroos are fucking weird.
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>>6325455
I guess I now know how to lewd the VRbit
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Remember to bully your bun every day.
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>>6325496
u wil brek teh law if u do nd i wil arest u
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>>6325474
That'd be my OC Patch, a grey fox. I'm just an author and occasional worried poster.

>>6325488
Would QT polecat be able to handle Patch's non-euclidean toys?
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>>6325474
I think Patch the fox is the painter
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>>6325507
>>6325528
Either way, the defining physical feature I remember about them is does hips that could birth a generation.
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>>6325528
Oh my god that's awesome dude!
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>>6325550
My hips are off limits anon, but Patch is okie dokie.
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What does Judy listen to when she goes BRUTAL?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUzw3a87xe0
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What's up dorks

>>6325578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAjFrwTXYeU
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>>6325597
Writing! Also, you got faaaaaaan aaaaaaart!
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>>6325614
>Writing!
Same
Watcha writing?

And I got fanart?

This and the covers of my stuff are the only ones I know of
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>>6325437
OH SHIT I SEE IT NOW

DUDE THANK YOU! THIS IS GETTING SAVED HARDCORE
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>>6325503

>The little bunny got closer to the sleeping figure in the pale moonlight.
>He worked him well today.
>He was so tired, the bun was sure he wouldn't wake up.
>Still the paw was trembling a little when he reached for the sheets and pulled down.
>No shirt, no pants, underwear only. Perfect.
>He took a moment to look at the sleeping jackal.
>His fur, his rising and lowering of the chest, the nose... he wanted to take him there and now, but it was still not the right time.
>For now this will have to do.
>He took the waistband of the sleeping mammal's boxers and slowly began the removal.
>There it was, the sheath, and, below, these two beautiful orbs.
>It was difficult to contain himself.
>But he needed to.
>Slowly, he began stroking the sheath.
>The tip didn't take long to appear from the hot envelope.
>He firmly gripped it, and began pumping.
>Soon he was erect, full length, dripping precum like a fountain.
>The bun licked his lips.
>Now it was time for the fun part.
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Slow thread huh. Well anyways I'm gradually getting better at this whole 'drawing characters doing things' thing. It's pretty different from doing realistic portraits, but still very enjoyable. Here's a little mashup of the last two tts

>>6325552
Thanks, I kept on erasing but I still don't think I made the hips big enough
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>>6325625
Writing my super late TT entry! Its a style of project I've wanted to do for a long time, and Noir fits perfect for it.

The writing is almost done, and then the REAL work begins! Its gonna be a collaboration, which is my favorite kind of project!

But its gonna be a seeeeeekrit till its done, or else it'll spoil the surprise, sadly.
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>>6325744
This one's pretty great too, gave me a good chuckle. Don't worry too much about the hips dude, it was still really awesome and I super appreciate it.
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>>6325748
>Writing my super late TT entry!

Oh hell yeah dude!

> Its a style of project I've wanted to do for a long time, and Noir fits perfect for it.
Well desu you're a fantastic writer from what I can tell, so I believe in you.

>But its gonna be a seeeeeekrit till its done, or else it'll spoil the surprise, sadly.
I was going to ask the nature of the collaboration, but I guess not. Ah well.

>>6325437
Knight my brother, check Short Tails again. I'm updating each chapter with your drawings at the top!
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>>6325432
>>6325488
Let me try to put this on paper for better clarity.

You may actually be the only person who complains if you complain every time I post them. Not that that's a problem. You're in your right to. It's just more sound to draw weird animal dicks. Less trouble.

If you want something particularly with human dicks though all you have to do is ask. It's just become more sound (and slowly more fun) to draw animal dicks.

And like I said before, I always draw Pack Street characters with human dicks since that's how Weaver depicts them.

>>6325507
>Would QT polecat be able to handle Patch's non-euclidean toys?

Hard to say, in all honesty.
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>>6325768
>>6325748
Oh and on the subject of writing, I was preparing something for an update for Short Tails. You don't have to read this if you don't want to, but I was practicing symbolism and some other thematic elements.

This is if Sad becomes the newest TT entry

http://pastebin.com/usvRPvFD
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>>6325786
Why don't you just draw what you enjoy and stop worrying so much about people freaking out and letting it change your style? You yourself said you prefer human shaped dicks.
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I guess I'll repost this, just in case anybody besides Otterly ships Wolter and Martin(a).

Anyways, how's everybody's Monday going? (I checked the day this time. twice.)
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>>6325786
Here's my two cents on Dickgate.

...I honestly don't care what kind of dick that Hugh has.

So long as it's inside Maxine.
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>>6325639
You're welcome! I finished it up yesterday but didn't post it in time. Gonna continue with the rest soon, been practicing my zoodude today.

>>6325768
o fuc, I'll have to make them better. Thanks, man. I host them here, too: https://anotherknight.tumblr.com/
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>>6325786
ICP sucks
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>>6325786
Cockthulhu demands more shorties for his many tentacled appendages.
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>>6325804
Monday's going awwwright man. Got a lot of work done so I'm just dicking about.

How's yours coming?

>>6325814
>You're welcome! I finished it up yesterday but didn't post it in time. Gonna continue with the rest soon, been practicing my zoodude today.

You're just making me feel like the most special girl (male) in the world. No butt really, this means a lot to me.

> I host them here, too:
Okay, I'll put a link to your Tumblr in the descriptions
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We talkin' dicks? I'm a pretty big sheath fan, myself.
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>>6325803
I also said I'm growing to like drawing animal dicks though.

Why else would I have kept drawing them? I found a way to make them fun and appealing to me.

If you had said this to me two months ago I may have had a different opinion, but I'm drawing them because I'm used to it, it's kinda fun, and I'm learning a lot about animals I wouldn't have known otherwise.

I do prefer human dicks, and if someone wants an alt on an easily editable image I can still do that just fine if they ask. It's just easier and more convenient to make animal dicks the default when posting to /ztg/.

>>6325812
This anon gets it.

>>6325851
Correct.

>>6325871
I think sheaths can be kinda cute. Like a game of peekaboo.
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>>6325908
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>>6325892
>I also said I'm growing to like drawing animal dicks though.
this is the worst possible future
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>>6325917
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>>6325252
I want... more!
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>>6325933
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>>6325945
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>>6325969
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>>6325968
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>>6325975
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>>6325920
Personally, I find the human dicks stuck on characters with otherwise completely animal bodies to be a bit off putting. But to each their own.
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the ultimate combo
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>>6325981
AND I'M SKUNKLY A BEAR

HI
DO YOU NEED A NEW MATTRESS??
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>>6325962
What's the significance of this discovery?
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Animal dicks = best dicks.
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>>6325252

>”Oh, Nick. What are you still doing up?”
>Nick turned away from the grey doe, “Err…I may or may not be lost trying to find my room that your sister gave me.”
>He heard Violet giggle, “The great fox cop, lost in a home of rabbits. There is some ironic joke there.”
>The fox turned to her with a tired grin, showing off his fangs, “Now now miss, it is really part of my plan.”
>”Oh? What is this ‘plan’ of yours?” the doe said, eying the fox’s teeth.
>”Well you see, now that all the bunnies are sleep, it will be easy for the fox to eat them.” Nick snapped his teeth quietly while giving her a wink.
>Violet smiled with an eyebrow raised behind her glasses, “You have a morbid sense of humor Mr. Wilde.”
>”You are admitting that you find it funny though.”
>”Just a tad bit.”
>”Then mission accomplished.”
>The doe shook her head, “Ok, enough jokes. We should really be getting you to bed…except…darn; I don’t know which room Judy is in.”
>Nick felt his ears fold back, “Say what now?”
>”She gave up her old room when she moved out and one of our other sisters, Amber, took it a little while ago. Judy is probably in one of the other guest rooms, who knows which one.”
>The fox groaned, pushing his muzzle into his paws, “That is just fantastic, and we can’t just knock on every door waking up the rest of the house.”
>Violet grimaced, “Sorry.”
>”No, it is alright. I was just making my way to a living room right now anyway-“
>”You don’t need to do that.” The doe grabbed Nick’s paw and guided him down the hall, “You can stay in my room.”
>Nick blinked, too tired to really resist her pull, “Umm, you don’t have to Violet. It would be rude for me to take your bed. I can just have the floor-”
>”Now now Nick,” Violet started as she opened the door to her room, “Whoever said that you alone would use the bed?”
>”…I’m sorry?”

Cont.
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>>6325989
I wanna stuff you full of food and make *you* my mattress. <3<3
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>>6325989
I would like to request a sleepy badger shaped mattress, can you provide?
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>>6325799
I can do a read of it! I should have some time tomorrow set aside: would it be okay if its then?

And would you prefer a private read through, or a public one?
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>>6325862
I'm glad you've been happy with them. Next ones might take a little longer as TT starts up.
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>>6326029
I totally forgot a VRbit to put here.

>>6325989
Skunkly is one of the greatest things to come from these threads.

He literally makes sleepyheads possible.
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>>6326029
Public is fine. It's just a draft. But I've been adding to it and turning it over for a day or two and I think I'm getting close to finishing it. No stress my dude, and thank you.

by reading of...do you mean like on Vocaroo? Cause that'd be flattering as shit

>>6326037
You're good man. You have no idea how much it means to me for people to be drawing fanart of my writing.

I'm actually really interested to see how you interpret chapters 5 & 6.
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>>6325998
The fact that quite a few artists didn't know it.
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>>6325857
Unlike Hugh, Percy does not react kindly to demands.

>>6325920
Mr. Weaver.

Kindly ask me for a human dong and I'll give you a human dong. I'm not an unreasonable person!

This goes for anyone! Normal dongs for the whole family!

>>6325989
And there you go again, making me love you.

You motherfucker.
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>>6326072
Butt I don't want any dongs. I like buhginas
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Nick would be a great mother t.b.h
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>>6325871
hot
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what was the polar bear's name at the beginning of the movie???
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>>6326072
HE'S FIGHTING THE ELDRITCH DONG.

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAMMAL.
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>>6325792
Oh, I will, because I'm going to bed.
But beware bun, you risk to be lewded at every moment. You don't know when, or where, but it will happen. And I will be there.
For now enjoy this
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>>6326085
Kazlov, right?
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>>6325323

Thanks! And that reminds me... I should shill in this thread, too!

Re-shill, re-shill.

Introducing...

Becca's Pseudo-Penis Adventure 4: Revelations!

Summary: Becca receives an invitation to a gathering of other spotted hyenas concerned about what's between their legs. Our favorite hyena shows up to the meeting to show everyone her way of doing things, if you get what I mean...


And of course, a reminder that the title and summary are always memes (its tradition) that only superficially resemble the actual plot. You'll have to read it and find out for yourself what it's really about!
(This took about 2 hours to write, and clocks in at a total of 2.6k words!)


http://archiveofourown.org/works/8553826

aand thats probably enough shilling for this fic. Onto the review!

I didn't want to spend too much time on the support group, since she won't be going back there- it was more of a one off. And we do know there's at least one Officer Valentine who doesn't seem amused at Becca's antics. Of course, these are told from Becca's perspective, who has said before that she just doesn't waste her time on people who don't like her much.
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>>6326095
the one at the police school - not the one cut from the movie
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>>6326106
>aand thats probably enough shilling for this fic. Onto the review!

>Shilling
>Ever enough
Or my name isn't Clunkbot ya hurrr

>>6326111
Oh, then I have no idea. Sick trips tho
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>>6325871
mmm sheaths
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>>6326079
better than judy at least
how many kit spines would be saved
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>>6326064
Oh, I do blind read throughs for the thread and put them up on soundcloud.

https://soundcloud.com/comicanon

I also do audiobooks... I swear I'm going to clear enough time to get started on Water Under the Bridge...

More and more authors are opting into the 'private read through', though, so I thought it polite to ask.

>>6326091
This is a dangerous world we live in. Lewders around every corner. They could be your friends. They could be strangers. They could be piggus.

What's a poor, lowly VRbit to do...
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>>6326151
>Oh, I do blind read throughs for the thread and put them up on soundcloud.

Right. I remember you doing those. Ha, I remember when I used to get drunk and read bad fanfiction.

>More and more authors are opting into the 'private read through', though, so I thought it polite to ask.

No, you're fine. I'm very open about my works. They need at least some criticism. Probably good if you ask though. I hope to catch your reading! I'm super busy tomorrow. Want me to provide you with a finished copy before then? I was going to maybe update tonight after another round of editing.
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>>6325989
I'm having trouble deciding. Help me try some of them.
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>>6326072
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>>6326177
It shall be shilled for you till I see a news reporting badger replying to iit!
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>>6326072
>Kindly ask me for a human dong and I'll give you a human dong. I'm not an unreasonable person!
Oh
huh
is it really that easy?

Okay then I have a request
how about a
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>>6325503
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>>6326229
ᵖᶦᵍᵍʸ ᵖᵘˢˢʸ
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>>6326193
Judy needs to stop editing her head on other people's bodies.

She looks fine the way she is.
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>>6326215
Dawww thanks man. I'll try to get a finished copy up for tonight so you have one.

Thank you so much again
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>>6326238
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>>6326078
I have those too!

>>6326212
God damn it.

>>6326238
You monster.

Give me a minute.
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>>6326238
Weaves, are you single?
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>>6326238
SWINTON SUPPORTER REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6326280
Weavs has a gf (male)
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>>6326280
No, he has a boyfriend.

Also Inky's a lesbian so what are you implying?
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>>6325926
And more is what you will get! Decided "fuck it, going to do some Nick/Violet smut".
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who posted this
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>>6326012
Moar?
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>>6326347
You, apparently.
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>>6326280
>weaver
>single
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>>6326347
Looks like you did friendo.
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>>6326347
You did. Is this a trick question?
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>>6326396
GO SAD GO
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>>6326064
>I'm actually really interested to see how you interpret chapters 5 & 6.
Sounds interesting! I'm looking forward to it.
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>>6326396
>already wrote something for Mythos
>Write a shit ton of sad stuff

Well fugg
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>>6326420
oh n u jus got followed on tumblr boiiiii
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Might as well re-shill my old trash for any newcomers to look at. Zootopia Lovecraft AU.

Ep.1 http://pastebin.com/afcXtzEE
Ep.2 http://pastebin.com/GjYBBifP
Ep.3 http://pastebin.com/gTUM8pdK
Ep.4 http://pastebin.com/iQ50Lz9g
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>>6326433
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>>6326405
thanks mead
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>>6326436
thx
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>>6326436
I'll save them for later.
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>>6325493

I want to smell his ass forever.
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>>6326447
I can't beleb beab is ded
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>tfw cuddling
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>>6326435
o shite, gotta produce content now

thanks, man

>>6326507
He ain't dead, he's just restin'
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>>6326446
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>>6326405
Sad TT seem to me like having a TT about Tame Collars, Law Enforcement/Police, Cuddling or Nighthowler.
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>>6326553
I know. But like, all I write is sad stuff
I know that needs to change but at least I wouldn't struggle to do TT
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>>6326553
>>6326405
>sad tt gets chosen
>ends up being cozy heartwarming stuff
Calling it now.
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>>6326548
no rest for the wicked.
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>>6326568
monthy reminder that Judy and the tiger from the beginning of the show were, in their world, wearing costumes that make them look naked.
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>>6326012

>He saw the bunny shrug as she drew him into the bedroom, closing the door behind them, “You and I will both sleep on the bed.”
>Violet motioned towards said furniture and Nick took in the size of the mattress which was big enough to hold the both of them.
>If the pair had no space between them and basically cuddled for the night that is.
>He turned towards the doe, “Listen, I don’t think that would be-“
>Nick choked on his words as he got an eye full of Violet’s naked back, panty covered rear and wiggling tail, the bunny giving no mind to the fox as she changed into a large night shirt.
>”Don’t think that would be what?”
>Almost every instinct in the fox was telling him to get out, to run for the living room unless he wanted to be killed by a burrow full of bunnies the next morning.
>His tired brain and the parts of him that liked what he saw were telling him to shut up.
>”…would be possible, at least without us close together during the night.” The fox managed to mutter, watching as the doe walked towards the bed.
>”Such a gentlemammal,” Violet smiled at him. “But really, I don’t mind.”
>”…why?”
>Violet’s smile morphed into a grin, “Because, I trust you not to do anything I don’t want you to.”
>Nick’s jaw dropped while the doe let out a giggle, hopping onto the bed and patting it down, “Now come on Mr. Wilde, let’s both get some sleep.”


>Nick decided he would not be getting any sleep that night when, an hour later, he found himself now wide awake with an arm full of bunny.
>It was bad enough having a female bunny pressed against him, but Violet liked to move in her sleep so her rear kept pressing against his stomach, and his paws had no place to go but around her waist.
>This was torture; pure, delicious torture in the form of a rabbit with long legs and a fluffy tail.


Cont.
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>>6326238
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>>6326605
Just fuckin' with ya here.
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>>6326589
>Mead sees sad TT win
>gets off a couple more times than usual
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>>6326589
NUUUUUUU TAKE IT BACK
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>>6326352
There will be more; with me trying my damn hardest not to let this turn into a goddamn novela like what happens with all my other greentexts.
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>>6326618
What did Mead do that's so special?
I've been gone for a while.
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>>6326589
pffhfahahaha, good luck with that, see >>6326447, it would be just rehearsal of the same old. maybe get someone going the distance with something like lost causes and broken dreams for maximum abloo bloo bloo
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>>6326521
Is he talking about who's next for Judy or who's next for him?
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>>6326638

You don't know?

oh shit, guys, he doesn't know
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>>6326638
The thread discussed a scenario/AU where Judy dies and Nick becomes a bitter police chief.
Mead fell in love with the idea, drew a massive series of comics, and it's now one of the most infamous stories in the whole fandom.
>>
>You will NEVER be a drawfag
>People will never recirculate your work like it's memetic
>People will never attribute your name to a piece of your writing
>You'll always be a writefag doing mediocre garbage

Feels bad man
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>>6326625
Im enjoying it and would just like to read it as it comes out. You should just keep doing what youre doing.
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>>6326660
No, I have no idea. I dipped out for a like a month or two

>>6326663
>Mead fell in love with the idea, drew a massive series of comics, and it's now one of the most infamous stories in the whole fandom.

Oh shit that sounds great. W2R
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>>6326666

are you me, anon?
thats how i feel

t. MisterEAnon
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>>6326666
Thanks super satan.
However, I do feel great that a greentext I wrote and a request I did made it into our two biggest stories here so I'm good.
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>>6326638
He made a long comic series called 'Judy is Dead.'

https://imgur.com/a/C5QYx
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>>6326679
>>6326695
Here.
Pay close attention to some subtle details in the art.
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>>6326666
Holy fuck those quads are career ending

I guess I should give up writing. Thanks Satan

>>6326695
Thanks man!

>>6326730
Okay, I won't just gloss it over
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>>6326666
Bullshit, I can think of a few writers off the top of my head who are popular

>Comicanon
>Clunkbot

Ummmm
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If sad wins the TT I will write the ultimate cuckfic.
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>>6326765

Weaver.

>Pack street update when
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>>6326773
If I get dubs you will not write a cuckfic
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>>6326773

Can it beat House Of Memories?
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>>6326765
Boney_m
Otterly
Weaver, though he has art to back his fics up so that's probably not fair.
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>>6326765
MisterE
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>>6326617

YO

I'll huff and puff and-
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>>6326773
cuckbot i believe u
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>>6326786
I'll cuck Judy, Nick and Jack all at the same time.
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>>6326765
Metals
Nate
Rock
MisterE
Alabaster
trashweasel
PseudoFox
OfficerFox
Otterly
Armasyll

Would you like me to continue?
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>>6326765
Shit list.
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>>6326666
Fuck you, I will just to spite you, Satan.
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>>6326790
concede the elections.
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>>6326802
I'm not on that list so yes......
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>>6326802
Not him, but please.
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>>6326813
I believe in you anon.

>>6326790
Oh my.
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Something I did for a friend.
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>>6326678
Glad you are enjoying it!

Honestly I am just trying to write straight out smut just to write something, and I've had this idea for a while (I've always liked Violet). Every other time I've tried to write smut the story runs away from me or I end up writing a multi green text series of emotional sex.
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>>6326617
>>6326790
Me first.
I call dibs.
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>>6326813
That's the spirit!

It's frustrating but rewarding when you make something and it turns out good.
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>>6326793
I swear to dog I will one day write the BIGGEST cuck story of all time. I'll even write in a shitty Gary Stu OC to cuck myself.

>>6326765
Shitty list. You forgot mai boi Metals and Harry and Nate and Rock
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>>6326851
I like it! That your friend's character?
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>>6326851
>that clawhauser
Oh man, this is oddly adorable
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>>6326865
>metals
Metals literally hasn't written in months

He hasn't touched the fandom in months

For all we know he's fucking dead.

Nate too.
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>>6326851
Cut your hair you fucking hippy
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>>6326883
eyuup

>>6326893
;P
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>>6326857

>dibs

She gets a choice, anon. She's Inky, not Canidae.
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>>6326857
There are plenty of nice vaginas, though.

Ignore the vagina behind the curtain.
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>>6326900
I know, I just like him. He was a good friend of mine. I miss him. Nate was cool too.

I'm just throwing out names I can remember at this point

>>6326685
I don't know much about you, but apparently other people do. So chin up bucko

OR SHOULD I SAY KEKO
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>”Judy moaned orgasmically as Nick’s huge cock pierced her cervix. Wow.”
>Nick looked up at Judy from his phone. “Wouldn’t that really hurt?”
>Judy sighed and set aside her half-eaten bagel. “Why are you still reading those. Haven’t you scarred our brains enough already?”
>”It’s just so weird. Why would anyone write fan fiction about a couple cops, let alone bizarre erotica fan fiction. I mean look at this one! You drug me and then I get spit roasted by Gazelle’s back up dancers.”
>Judy closed her eyes and rubbed her temples. ”I would rather not think about it. How about we pretend you never Zoogled our names and found this stuff?”
>Nick continued, undeterred. “God, can you imagine meeting one of these freaks? ‘Well hey there officer Hopps, I’m a big fan of yours and by the way I wrote a story where your best friend knot-fucks you into a coma!’”.
>Judy shook her head. “I don’t know if I would arrest them or just run.”
>Nick shook his head as well. “Some mammals, Judy. Some mammals.”
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>>6326825
>>6326832
A few more off the top of my head

HarryLime03
AngryCapper (I'm pretty sure he does stuff on occasion)
Bread Otter
VodkaWrites
MichealXX2 (Dressed Down guy)
writeyote

And of course:
Canidae
Weaver
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>>6326851
>>6326919
I just wanna ruffle my hands and face in his main. QT!
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>>6326851
there isn't any cake left, just covered the damn cheetah with frosting and leave him in his bed room instead.

why does the cake have to suffer this ?
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>mfw so many amazing CCs
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>YOU WILL NEVER BE A NOTABLE WRITER
>YOU WON'T EVEN MAKE IT ONTO PITY LISTS
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>>6326927

Edy! Can I just say how much I like the possibility of light dating.
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>>6326952
>main
I main fox in meelee.
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>>6326802
Soulsposter also wrote something, still hoping for more of his fic.
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>>6326983
Fuck you

t. falco main
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>>6326542
>tfw feeling lonely and want cuddles but bf is a thousand miles away
Somebody cuddle me, guy or girl doesn't matter.
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>>6326989
The roman one, right? Where is that? Shit was great
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>>6327003
Hell ya, we need to yell at Soulposter more to update it. I do love pre-zootopia zoot stuff. Buns in armor!
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>>6326977
Edy only dates prey. Preferably of her own species!

If pred-prey dating is YOUR thing she won't stop you. Just judge you harshly.
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>>6326948
Always nice to give writers credit!
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>>6326940
Adding "Judy and Nick looking at the viewer in disgust" to my draw to-do list

>>6326975
I'm sorry anon but this made me crack up. Maybe link your stuff?
>>
Don't you people feel paranoid when people refer to your pseudonym? Like people are literally expecting shit from you.
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>>6327072
I probably wouldn't know.
I never revealed mine to the threads.
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I want a pizza dat colt
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>>6327017
Any more squirting stuff?
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>>6327072
I solve that problem by not being a popular cc
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>>6327072
Nah. I'm used to people asking for stuff. Doesn't mean you have to deliver either.
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>>6327136
i posted one
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>>6327039

B-but that's the beauty of it! And her tongue is so long...

Not that I'd demand anything be canon, hahaha...
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>>6326975
WRITE MORE

SHILL BETTER

also, don't think about yous and write for yourself - attention will come naturally once you start having fun and gitgut.
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>>6327072
No. Why?
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>>6327132
Well he is a cutie
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>>6327132
Sometimes, I like to imagine an inflated pizzacolt ball lapping at the irresistible taste of his hyper dick.
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>>6327161
>SHILL BETTER

This senpai

Shilling is the name of the game
>>
How has Raccoonfag not been listed by anyone yet?
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>>6326816
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
roasted
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>>6327159
Maybe see how she plays into the story first.

Also while I won't say the thread dictates canon, they do give me ideas.

At the very least inspiration for funny one-off doodles.
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>>6327198
god damnit
i am dishonor to my famiry
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>>6326765
>Bullshit, I can think of a few writers off the top of my head who are popular
>Comicanon
>Clunkbot
Weaver?
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>>6327132
>>6327169
>>6327176
d e l e t
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>>6327198
Well, you could list him if you felt like it.
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>>6327198
because everybody knows Raccoonfgt I suppose.

now you've mentioned, there are many more writers I can think of, but it just turns into a roll call - might as well update thread journal with names to keep everyone happy.
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>>6327161
>WRITE MORE
>SHILL BETTER
how about write better, shill more instead?
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>>6327225
Raccoonfag
Also that guy who wrote Boopersnootle
Come back to us, Boopersnootleanon
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>>6327224
Okay deleted it. Sorry Zhan.
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>>6327248
yeah, I intentionally swapped the words to make people stop and ponder.
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Guys, the secret to being a popular writer is to write a bunch of garbage and then shill it to no end

trust me on this

Also mead's story is fucking heartbreaking jesus
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>>6327257
THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF DELET
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>>6327314
>strangedad
What happened to that dude? He was awesome
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>>6326695
Since it has been brought up, can we talk about it a bit?

I didn't mind the whole action part, and the bedside patching up with July was fine. Some people complained that it rang hollow because they didn't have much of a relationship, and indeed he humiliated her in their previous encounter. But regardless, I still think the bedside reckoning was okay because it was Nick exteriorizing what he already knew, after having been through the traumatic event of the nighthowler thing. The action sequence is peripeteia, the patch-up is anagnosis.

But the following dream sequence flopped. He talks about loving the city, and nothing in the story so far gave that idea, in fact it would be the opposite. Similarly, his revelation that he shouldn't be chief came out of nowhere. Sadly, I think these robbed the ending of the impact it deserved. It was a second but flawed anagnosis.

Thoughts?
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>>6327314
I'm sorry cute horsey man, I am new at this. I hope my new changes are to your liking.
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>>6327331
bro i just like the porn
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>>6327331
i fucking laughed my ass off at NDE resolution, but then I was already burned by Morning Glory and had lost the luster of the story by Pocket Change.
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NO PONIES
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>>6325892
In the interests of unity, and at a time of your convenience, I would like to request the stink twink servicing a veritable cornucopia of animal and non-animal dongs.

For unity. For peace. For jizzing all over a skunk's face.
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>>6327364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzV4eOMKYpw
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>>6327364
No ponies here anon

Only cute colts
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>>6327268
>judy stop these fucking bats
>judy goddammit
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>>6327423
He's a new ghoul, the bats are just trying to show him the ropes.
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For the late night crowd, medieval bun farms plus bonus shifty fox
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>>6327322
Think he's discord only.
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>>6327465
Post the discord

Why is the discord even a thing
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trump is the president yet we are talking about zootopia
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>>6327344
>>6327417
i am running out of ways to tell people to delet
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>>6327463
Bunny on the bottom's all like 'that fucker's gonna steal my wife,'
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>>6327463
>Mayor is letting anyone in these days
I do love this kinda stuff, continue being cool Labger.
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>>6327463
>>6327484
KEK'D
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>>6327224
Inspiration struck.
I'm so sorry.

>He wasn't quite sure how he got into this situation.
>His body was completely rounded out, completely engulfing his limbs
>An unusually long member glistened with fiery passion as he leaned his head towards it.
>He was somewhat surprised that his mouth could reach so far.
>But as he began to wrap his mouth around the tip, none of it matter much to him anymore.
>As his lips gently massaged the end of his cock, he felt a shudder unlike one he'd ever felt travel throughout his entire ball of a body
>His hooves flailed in a futile struggle, as if he wanted to escape
>But his mind was only craving the delicious sensation even more.
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>>6327480
Write 'delet' on your horsecock and slap them with it until they take the hint, obviously.
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>>6327480
Well don't worry, that was my last lewd horse, I don't have anymore at all.
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>>6327322
He died. StrangerKid accidentally a toaster in the bathtub while he was bathing.
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>>6327480
Have you tried with a gun? That seems to be the proper way to tell people to delet
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>>6327513
Fucking word filter god damn
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>>6327463
>medieval bun farms
>shifty fox noble
>prima nocta
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>>6327544
I bet his trigger finger is itching for vengeance
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>>6327471
As much as people rip discord for this reason, honestly if it wasn't a thing we would've lost a fuckton of people forever ago. People can still stick around and discuss other things they like there and not completely leave the community.
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>>6327556
Jesus christ kill it
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>>6326802
>>6326948
O-oh, I see...

>>6327198
...

>>6327239
>because everybody knows Raccoonfgt I suppose.
>everybody knows Raccoonfgt
>Raccoonfgt
>fgt

This is worse than that birthday when my new puppy turned out to be a homeless guy who stabbed me with a syringe full of bleach.
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>>6327465
he never draws anymore, just vidya and I think works on his commissions
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Her tail isn't there because it would be under her sweater.
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Maybe I shouldn't have wrote that...
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>>6327615
Badger noooo! You're too cute to die!
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>>6327615
What did you name your puppy?
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>>6327623
That's a shame.
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>>6327615
I know you, buddy.
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her orgasm is creepily slow
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>>6327544
>hooves

>>6327522
this seems counter productive

>>6327538
stop this meme, colt is pure

>>6327517
S T O P T H I S
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>>6327687
>>hooves
Quitter talk
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6327253
Trashsavage! He also wrote getting fit for the bunny and both of those were just soooooo
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>>6327687
I already told you, I'm all out of pics. The well is dry, live free cutie colt.
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>>6327687
>S T O P T H I S
Actually, I think I will now that it's caused a bunch of autists to spam the threads.
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>>6327678
ain't clicking that shit

jfc
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Lucius here! Had a pretty late start last night and didn't get much done, but feel free to send doodle suggestions and I might make a drunken attempt at drawing some.
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>>6327472
I have been gorging myself on the salt these past few days. The identitarians that caused Trump still blame everyone but themselves. If they keep this up, he has a second term in the bag.
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>>6326091
Oh my! What will happen to me?
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>>6327544
>>6327687
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>>6327740
Some bunny badger love maybe?
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>>6327740
Draw me cuking ur dad lmao
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I think people are expecting something to happen, so why not harness this millennium moment and the spirit that it engenders for the common good? That was really the question that the president and I asked ourselves more than a year ago, because we saw this as a great opportunity. So we began working on it in the White House, and we put together the White House Millennium Council. And we adopted the theme "Honor the Past, Imagine the Future."
And the president has invited states and communities -- non- profit, Indian communities, corporations, public agencies -- all citizens to participate in efforts that strengthen our democracy, improve our communities, and enable us to give lasting gifts to the future.
We have found that one of the best ways to imagine the future is to preserve what we value of the past, the artifacts and historical sites, the documents that really tell the story maybe of your city, of your state and certainly of our country.
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>>6327762
Needs some tape for that gun, other than that its perfect.
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>>6327687
>this seems counter productive
I'll get on my knees, you whip it out and we'll give it a few tries to see if it works.
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>>6327746
you say that like its a bad thing...
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>>6327633
Alas, my dying regret is that I never got to tap that sweet sweet beaver booty.

>>6327642
Well I wanted to name him Scraps, but he insisted it was "FuckFUCKshittheguvmentCIACIAfuckCIAfuckingshittracersinmyteethreadingmybrainSHITshittingFUCKObamafuck".
The people at PetSmart were very uncooperative about engraving a collar tag with that.

>>6327660
Glad to be known.
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>>6327764
BADGERS ARE NOT FOR HOMOSEX

THEY ARE FOR COLLECTING THE NEWS
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unlike themselves. People who are hopeful will e we saw this as a great opportunity. So we began working on it in the White House, and we put together the White House Millennium Council. And we adopted the theme "Honor the Past, Imagine the Future."
And the president has invited states and communities -- non- profit, Indian communities, corporations, public agencies -- all citizens to participate in efforts that strengthen our democracy, improve our communities, and enable us to give lasting gifts to the future.
We have found that one of the best ways to imagine the future is to preserve what we value of the past, the artifacts and historical sites, the documents that really tell the story maybe of your city, of your state and certainly of our country.
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>>6327739
actually tho
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>>6327777
Fucking sick quads from heaven
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Los Angeles in an area that is now revitalizing and for which the arts will be a prominent part in that revitalization.
These are not only individual memories -- they are part of our national story. So I'm pleased that once again this year, the president's budget will request another $30 million to save America's treasures. And he's also recommending that funds be appropriated to ensure that the photographs and the paintings and the documents in our federal collection are available to all citizens on the Internet. This gives us a wonderful opportunity to reach out to schools and public libraries everywhere you live, to enable people who might no have the opportunity to travel to the Archives and the Smithsonian to see over the miracle of the Internet what is here and what marks our history. You know better than I that each community has unique resources -- treasures if you will -- that should be restored and preserved. Whether it's a town hall in a city square or even a city park or a monument, there is something there that you can use to help tech the people in your community about their past and ask them questions about the kind of future they want to be part of building.
I'm also pleased to take this opportunity to unveil a new millennium initiative, called Millennium Community. This is a program to bring official recognition to cities, towns, communities and Indian tribes that are planning millennium projects that honor the past and imagine the future. I'm glad that we've worked to develop this program hand-in-hand with you, the U.S. Conference of Mayors, and
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>>6327740
Draw a Lucius sleepyhead! We need a sleepyhead for every CC!
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Community. This is a program to bring official recognition to cities, towns, communities and Indian tribes that are planning millennium projects that honor the past and imagine the future. I'm glad that we've worked to develop this program hand-in-hand with you, the U.S. Conference of Mayors, and also with the National Association of Counties, the National League of Cities, the National Association of Towns and Townships, and the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Their leaders are here with us today, and I want to thank them.
In his state of the union, the president said "I want to invite every town, every city, every community to become a nationally recognized Millennium Community by launching projects that save our history, promote our arts and humanities and prepare our children for the 21st century."
Now every community has a different way of approaching this. We've already learned from working with some of you. Some may want to launch a local effort to save a treasure, to raise the funds necessary to do so. Others may want to join the Mars Millennium Project, which is challenging schoolchildren around the nation in conjunction with NASA to design a community that they would want to live on on the planet Mars in the year 2030.
Some might want to join the Millennium Trails project, which we hope will build 2,000 new trails that will help us explore our environment and mark our heritage along the way. Richmond, California, for example, will celebrate its new "Rosie the Riveter Park," to pay tribute to the women who worked in the World War II shipyards. The people of Casper, Wyoming, will restore some of the important trails
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>>6327746
>a full week of saltmining
Still ongoing, it's fucking wonderful
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>>6327783
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your communities.
We're also seeing a lot of interest in cities that are sister cities of those around the globe who want to strengthen their ties to their sister cities by promoting international cultural and educational exchanges. Chicago, for instance, is inviting foreign artists to visit the city and paint murals throughout its neighborhoods.
Today I'm also announcing two new tools that I hope will help you develop your own millennium plans. The first is the handbook, which I hope -- we've tried very hard to make it so -- is a practical guide for civic leaders, groups, and individuals. Another tool is the new web site which Bell South, partnering with the U.S. Conference of Mayors, is creating. The web site for Millennium Communities will allow designated communities to share ideas and projects. And we hope that you will want to be so designated, that you will want to be part of this great national effort as we stand on the brink of this new century.
rs. You know, there's always a split when there is an important point in time. And we will see it again here in our country
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>>6327556
>>6326255

Is she trying to impress Nick?
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>>6326989
>>6327003
>>6327032
hello /ztg/!
I'm actually finishing some edits for chapter 1 before posting it on AO3, chapter 2 is already in the works!

>whatchu listenan'? doan'?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs
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>>6327794
Oh no they are totally for homo sex, especially the sleepy ones.

>>6327837
Thank you, keep being a cutie Inks.
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years of progress, have a lot to celebrate. We have a lot of work ahead of us to continue building on safer cities and reformed schools and welfare workers working and all that we can see at the ground level that is occurring. So let's not just celebrate with parties and champagne -- as much fun as that will be -- let's add to the celebration some contemplation, some commemoration and really look for ways that we can bring our communities and our country together.
If we imagine the kind of cities we want for the 21st century, we know we're on the right track to achieving them, and we know that the road is a very challenging one. But we have hope, because we have seen what hope and hard work can produce. When every citizen has the opportunity to live a productive, fulfilling life, and when our communities can live together in peace, without the sound of gunfire, with people feeling free to walk through a park on a beautiful summer evening; when children are learning the skills they will need to compete in the global economy, and when there is public space that invites us in and a feeling that we are contributing to the common good of our future together, then we will know we have given gifts to the future that will stand the test of time.
So let me invite each of you to use this opportunity to become a Millennium Community, to work with us in creating this moment in time that we hope will stand for the symbol of what we as a nation want to create for our future. I thank you for what you have already done and I look forward
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>>6327837
A horse with a gun is about as threatening as a mouse with a nerf bat.
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>>6327851
NO
NO

I WILL NOT ALLOW THIS

BADGERS ARE FOR THE NEWS DAMN YOU
DELET THIS
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>>6326948
>HarryLime03
He had a TT hand-delivered to him, promised updates on several occasions, and then disappeared. He doesn't deserve to be on that list.
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last respects.
I also, on a personal note, wish to acknowledge the deep sadness that the entire American people feel. You see before you four leaders of our country who really represent many, many Americans who could not be here, but whose hearts are with the people of Jordan. I also hope you know that the friendship between our families on a personal level and between our countries is very, very deep. And we will be there in friendship and support in the months and years ahead.
As I was visiting with Queen Noor a few minutes ago and expressing our personal condolences, I could not help but think how much better off this region and our world would be if not only leaders but all of us stopped to think, "How would King Hussein have acted? What would he have said?" If we could bring the same sense of humility and openness and stability to all of our relationships that he brought and that I saw him bring not only to presidents but to every person he encountered. That would be one way to honor the legacy of this extraordinary man and this very great leader.
Thank you, as part of the American community and the Jordanian nationals who work with the Americans here at the embassy, for representing our country in good times and hard times. We're grateful to you for the service that you give.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to begin, if I might, by thanking President Bush, President Carter and President Ford and this congressional delegation for coming on very short notice all the way to Jordan to make a clear and unambiguous statement about our regard and respect and gratitude to King Hussein and the people of Jordan. I thank them very, very much. (Applause.)
I want to thank Ambassador Burns and all of you in the embassy community for representing us in a difficult and challenging part of the world and a wonderful country. I thank all the Jordanian nationals who work for the United States. We are honored by your efforts, and when Jordanians and Americans work together in our embassy here in Amman, they symbolize the partnership that we hope will always exist between the United States and Jordan.
Most of what I would have said has already been said so eloquently by those who have spoken before. I would just like to make a couple of points about King Hussein and about King Abdullah. First of all, Hussein really did bring people together. You know, I was looking at the four of us, here we are, two Democrats; two Republicans. We have agreed on many things. We've disagreed a thing or two over time. But we know that America's interest and America's heart were close to this king and this country.
I looked at the Israeli delegation today -- (laughs) -- I could hardly believe my eyes. (Laughter.) All the candidates for prime minister were there. (Laughter.) They were all walking together. You know, I don't know if they talk at home, but they were all talking here. (Laughter.) I thought, it was as if Hussein was hugging them all, you know. (Laughter.) It was really a beautiful sight. People coming from all around the world, countries that are at each others' throa elp." I said -- (laughs) -- "If I think it would help?"
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>>6327828
>wedding rings
I'm a sucker for this stuff.
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>>6327850
I look forward to it Orange Juice Loving Man wearing a Bucket.
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>>6327734
redeemer
>>6327736
i feel partially to blameas well, at least now I can embrace sleep
>>6327762
>>6327837
inky you are amazimg oh god
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very day he was needed, he was there, no matter how sick he was, no matter how bad he felt.
And his son, the new king, told me tonight, he said, "You know, the truth is it put some days on his life, because he was doing what he believed in." And all the icy atmosphere of those tense talks would immediately disappear when Hussein walked in the room, because all the differences and animosities and grievances seemed small in the face of this very large presence. And it was almost as if the more frail his body became, the more powerful the essence of his spirit was.
Every Jordanian citizen can be proud of that -- can be proud the on every continent and every country of the world, people said, "That is the sort of person we all ought to be."
The last point I would like to make is that I would like to join the previous speakers in saying that I have great confidence in the young king of Jordan. I had a very good meeting with him today. He clearly understands his mission. He said in the most moving way, he said, "I and all of my brothers and sisters have absorbed our father's teaching. We know what we are supposed to do. And I intend to do it." And he said it in a way that exuded the quiet, humble confidence that I saw so often in his father.
And finally, just on a purely personal note, I was deeply honored to be able to bring Queen Noor's mother and father over on the airplane with me. They are in this audience tonight, because we are leaving from here. And I think we should let them know that our prayers and support are with them, and we are grateful that their daughter, a daughter of America, has been a magnificent queen of Jordan and a great friend to the people of both countries.
Hillary and I have had so many unbelievable experiences as a result of the great honor of serving in the White House. But among those I will treasure most every day of my life are the times we had with the king will.
Thank you very much. (Applause.)END
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>>6326802
Rock here, can confirm, super hard to get noticed.

Regardless, thanks for noticing! I was starting to think I was a ghost or something!
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>>6327886
trump is the president now - every time someone calls him racist the wall goes up two feet
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>>6327889
Me too, man. Best minor detail.
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damage, was worse than both the war and the earthquake that leveled Managua. And when I obviously expressed some surprise at that rather remarkable statement, she said that it was because, unlike the terrible problems with the earthquake or even unlike the years of unrest and war, certain parts of the country were left untouched and life could go on somewhat normally.
But here, the entire country was affected, entire crops wiped out, villages destroyed, parents left without jobs or food for their children.
So that it's clear that these nations that we are addressing today need not just short-term humanitarian relief, which we have come forward with in an extraordinary show of support, but they need long- term reconstruction. Which is why when my husband first announced U.S. assistance to help the people of Central America get back on their feet and look again toward the future with hope and optimism, he made it clear that we would stand with the people of these countries for the long haul. And today, we are making good on that promise.
I'm very pleased that the president has proposed funding of nearly $1 billion to help our Latin American neighbors repair and rebuild in the aftermath of these disasters. This proposal will bring our total commitment to over $1.2 billion, and it will help in several critical ways.
First, if this funding is approved, 17 million people will have help protecting themselves from the contagious diseases that too often rear their ugly heads in the aftermath of natural disasters. Seven hundred health clinics will be up and running, and more than seven million people will have access to clean water and proper sanitation.
Second, this proposal will help create jobs, boost economies, and rebuild entire communities.
When I was in Central America, I heard time and time again that the leaders -- this new generation of leaders in these countries -- understood very well that it was not enough just to stop the fighting, as
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>>6327870
Harry is my friend pls be nicr
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This package also includes $50 million to help the Dominican Republic, Haiti and the eastern Caribbean restore the housing, health care and jobs destroyed by Hurricane Georges. I saw again personally when I visited the Dominican Republic and Haiti the continuing effects of the damage from Hurricane Georges in both of those countries, and this will be a very welcome addition to the work that those countries are doing.
This proposal also includes an additional $10 million to help the victims of the recent earthquake in Colombia, a devastating earthquake whose damage is still being assessed in some remote areas of Colombia.
From the start, our obligation to help Central America and the Caribbean recover from these tragedies has transcended politics, and so, too, must it now. This entire proposal is the product of close bipartisan consultation with members of Congress from both houses and both sides of the aisle. I'm very heartened by the support that Republican members have given, many who also made the trip to see for themselves the effect of these hurricanes. And it is our hope that Congress will quickly act to pass this proposal.
On March 8th, I will accompany the president on his trip to Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala, where he will see the destruction firsthand, where he will also meet with people who've been affected, as well as meeting with American troops and American NGOs. And he will hear what all of you in this room know so well -- how important it is for us to extend a helping hand to our neighbors to help them heal and rebuild.
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>>6327850
>Listenan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcg9JybEp8
>Doan
reportin spam
update your fic sunbro
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This just in, Sleepy badgers are the cutest most lewdable mammals in history!
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those countries are doing.
This proposal also includes an additional $10 million to help the victims of the recent earthquake in Colombia, a devastating earthquake whose damage is still being assessed in some remote areas of Colombia.
From the start, our obligation to help Central America and the Caribbean recover from these tragedies has transcended politics, and so, too, must it now. This entire proposal is the product of close bipartisan consultation with members of Congress from both houses and both sides of the aisle. I'm very heartened by the support that Republican members have given, many who also made the trip to see for themselves the effect of these hurricanes. And it is our hope that Congress will quickly act to pass this proposal.
On March 8th, I will accompany the president on his trip to Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala, where he will see the destruction firsthand, where he will also meet with people who've been affected, as well as meeting with American troops and American NGOs. And he will hear what all of you in this room know so well -- how important it is for us to extend a helping hand to our neighbors to help them heal and rebuild.
I know that many of you who have worked in Central America and the Caribbean for many years understand how devastating the effect of these hurricanes have been. We understand how at just the moment in time when all of these countries were poised for the future this devastating natural disaster has seemed to come out of nowhere and set them back with respect to pursuing their dreams and their hopes.
Well, we want to be friends and partners in rebuilding those dreams and hopes, and that is what the president's proposal attempts to do. It is why I hope, in additional to what we're able to provide through this supplemental appropriation, the American people will Caribbean who have
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Mandy, you just heard the senator refer to it. If Mrs. Clinton runs, won't she be hit with all of those old scandals, her role in Whitewater and Travelgate and the billing records?

MANDY GRUNWALD: You would think if the Republican Party have learned nothing else in the last couple years it's that that strategy has driven it to its lowest poll ratings in its history. I think Senator D'Amato might say that the Whitewater hearings he conducted contributed to the weakness he faced as a candidate for reelection last year. If that's the best they've got which is, you know, kind of recycling all that stuff again and trying to defeat her on scandal, I think she'd kill 'em.

CHRIS WALLACE: Senator D'Amato, is there still life in those old scandals?

AL D'AMATO: Well, I think it really would come from not the candidate himself, but I think the media's going to bring it up. I think that's just an inevitable fact. I mean I've run so many times in New York and yet the old things are just hashed and rehashed. But Mandy's right, if a candidate tries to take her on on the issues of Whitewater, etc., they lose. They're going to have to take her on on the issues that really New Yorkers are going to look at -- do you want to be just taxed to death and more spending and more big government and can we contrast Mrs. Clinton's positions and what it will cost people for many of the programs that she advocates?

So I think it's going to be more intellectual and more on the basis of who can deliver, who can get the job done, who's going to be better for New Yorkers? It'll be a great race.

CHRIS WALLACE: Mandy, let me ask you about that. I mean
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>>6327740
Canidae being forced to perform a striptease in front of Lucius, and possibly some of his mates.
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with the work she's done on other health care issues taking a smaller approach to things like HMO reform, the HMO Bill of Rights, children's health coverage, that she learned from that experience. I think she very much is part of what she and the President have always called the third way, the sort of centrist place they've taken the Democratic Party. And there, I think people would be in, actually, for a lot of surprises on questions like welfare reform where she very much supported what the President did. I think you'd be surprised that, you know, where she, where you might cal her a liberal and where you might call her a conservative. I think she's very much where the President is on a lot of these issues and I think New York has made that choice over and over again that they support the direction that the Clinton administration has taken this country.

CHRIS WALLACE: Jerry Nachman, Mrs. Clinton has also gone on record supporting a Palestinian state. Not good politics in New York, is it?

JERRY NACHMAN: No, she's going to get hit very hard on that. But I think I want to agree with Mandy that on the issues she will do very well, Chris. It's going to come down to how brittle is she because she's going to get questioned on everything. Remember, if it's a Rudy Giuliani-Hillary Clinton election, there are going to be lots of questions about these two quirky marriages that these two candidates come from. There will be all the questions on Monica, all the things that the politicians say that it's not right to go into, the press will go into, and the question is Hillary, who's been able to duck as First Lady is going to have to learn from her husband. In 1992 when Clinton came to New York for the primary, he got pummeled mercilessly and we as journalists saw that this was the most resilient
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>>6327828
Is it cheating if I already have one?
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Addressing wage discrimination takes courage, as our panelists can tell you. It takes courage as an employee to speak out, to gather evidence, to make a case. It takes courage as an employer to recognize problems in pay equity and take steps to remedy them.
Just recently -- let me just mention the experience of one of our panelists -- we saw this courage among the administrators and women scientists at MIT, one of our country's most outstanding institutions of higher education.
Together they looked at the cold, hard facts about disparities in everything from lab space to annual salary. They sought to make things right, and they told the whole public the truth about it, which is a rare thing, and I appreciate what they did. I commend them. I hope their success and their example can be replicated throughout our country.
Now, again I say this should not be a partisan issue, it should be an American issue. And as you argue through these matters this year, I ask you, every time you are in contact with any person in a position to vote on this in Congress or influence a vote on Congress, ask them this simple question: If we don't deal with this now, when will we ever get around to it?
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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“Good Morning America,” ABC, 4/20/1999
CHARLES GIBSON, Host: We were talking just a few moments ago to Elizabeth Dole, who has just come back from a visit to the areas overrun with refugees, the areas around Kosovo.

Well, the First Lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton, is also talking about a trip to that region. But before she goes, yesterday, Mrs. Clinton was here in New York. She has traveled through -- or maybe I should say stormed through the state of New York, looking very much like a potential candidate. She made eight whirlwind stops in New York yesterday alone.

As ABC's Bill Blakemore reports, rarely has a potential candidate touched so many bases in so little time.
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>>6327895
I miss unreal tournament, the first one. I actually am all out, nothing but moped and giant cock left.

>>6327949
This just in, lewd badgers are best.
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>>6327953
I second this.
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coming. I want to thank those whom you will hear from in a few minutes including FEMA Director James Lee Witt; and USAID Deputy Administrator Hattie Babbitt. Congressman James Moody (ph) who runs Interaction. We also have with us OPM Director Janice LeChance (ph) and Morrison Webb, executive vice president of AT&T.
I also want to recognize the heroic contributions of Refugees International, an organization that is on the front lines of humanitarian disasters around the world. And they lost three relief workers in a terrible car accident this week in Albania, who were trying to reach the refugee camps.
Before I begin, I want to say a word about the terrible school shooting that occurred yesterday in Littleton, Colorado. I'm sure all of us are joined together in mourning the loss of so many young lives. And we are sending our prayers and sympathy to the families, the loved ones, the classmates of the victims and the entire community. It's hard to imagine this happening again. And at the extraordinary time that we heard about it, I think all of us hoped it were not true.
When we look into the eyes of our own children we cannot even imagine the fear that parents in Littleton must have felt waiting to find out if they had lost their children.
And it is very hard to just comfort a child who seeing it on television, is afraid. Imagine what it is like for the young people who saw their friends die before their eyes. Even if we cannot comprehend or imagine the magnitude of the pain that is filling the hearts of the people of Littleton, we can help with our prayers and our hopes by doing all that is possible to make sure the children there receive the counseling and support they need. Whatever medical and psychological help might be required.
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And more than that we can, once again, recommit ourselves to insuring that all classrooms and schoolyards are filled with learning and the sounds of children who are enjoying the everyday give and take of life and not filled with violence and anguish.
We're here to talk about a very different tragedy in another part of the world, but one that is equally demanding of our response. The humanitarian disaster in Kosovo is almost incomprehensible.
You've come here because you do want to help and for that we are grateful because we need that help more desperately than ever. We've seen the horrifying images of children in trains, children separated from families, robbed of their childhoods, their homes and their memories.
Two out of three of the Kosovars have already been forced to flee their homes, often at gun point, without time to even snatch a family photograph from the wall or even to take identification papers or medications on their fearful journeys.
Like all Americans, I have been outraged by recent reports of paramilitary forces destroying health centers and hospitals, driving out doctors and nurses and depriving refugees of much needed medical care.
I've heard chilling examples of what is happening from a doctor whom I met with again just last week. I met with her first last summer when she came to the White House to tell me what was occurring even then as people were being driven into the mountains.
This brave woman, who had worked around the clock, has now become a refugee herself. Last week when she visited me, I could not only tell from her words, but by the haunted pain in her eyes, what she and the people around her have endured.
CLINTON: She had come here -- luckily enough she still had her passport which she smuggled out in the diaper of a nephew she held on her lap -- she'd come here to bear witness and to make sure we understood what was happening to the pe
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This week the president called on Congress to pass his $6 billion proposal for an emergency aid package which includes nearly $800 million in humanitarian assistance.
The American people, as is the case when events like this occur, have responded with an outpouring of generosity and support. Here at the White House we are flooded with countless calls, letters and e- mails from people who want to know how to help. A woman from Indiana wrote asking whether there was anything the mothers of this country could do to help the mothers of Kosovo.
And another woman from Florida wrote we are so blessed in our beloved country and I really believe that the majority of Americans would like to help in some way, but don't really know how. Well there are ways for everyone to help.
USAID and FEMA are working together to make sure that Americans can do our part through a toll-free number, 800-USAID-RELIEF and the website www.info.USAID.gov. under the Kosovo listing.
Today I'm also pleased that the president will be sending a memo to every employee in the federal government encouraging them to find out what they can do to help as well.
Across the country, people are coming together to try to understand how they can make a difference. On Monday I met in New York with the heads and representatives of major foundations to talk about what more can be done in the foundation community to support those who are on the ground delivering the services.
I'm very grateful to former Congressman Jim Moody and everyone at Interaction for their leadership and commitment. I also know that the American business community has responded and is responding and wants to know what more it can do to be responsive.
Leading corporations from AT&T to Time Warner to Pepsico are urging their employees to help by matching their contributions dollar for dollar. One relief organization, Project Hope, has already receiv azon.c es to the Red Cross, Care and other
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believe NGOs have already received $25 million in cash in kind donations. This is setting, yet again, a new standard in corporate, indeed, international citizenship.
I cannot tell you how proud I am every time I travel around the world on behalf of our country and I see what American corporations are doing, not only to provide jobs which is the first and most important way to help any country, but also by setting an example of philanthropy and corporate citizenship that is literally helping to transform the way business is conducted and what can happen in a society.
That's why we want to encourage you to continue to be creative about ways you can make a difference. In a few minutes, we're going to find that cash contributions, as you'll hear from our speakers, are often the most effective way to help in an ever-changing situation.
But every donation counts and every donation is helping. I want to say a special word though about Macedonia and Albania, because here perhaps as much as any way, the business community in America and your counterparts in Europe and Japan and elsewhere can make a very big difference.
I just met with the Macedonian ambassador and representatives of the Macedonian government to hear first-hand the impact that this crisis is making on their economy and their country. I thank them on behalf of the president and the American people for what they are doing.
CLINTON: Because think about what it must mean to be in small, poor countries and having to deal with the tens of thousands, now hundreds of thousands of displaced people coming across your borders seeking all manner of help and having all kinds of needs that must be met.
Macedonia, for example, is providing safe way the caring of struggled so hard and for so ays of buying supplies from local
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>>6327837
>tape a gun to your hoof with your lips
>risk shooting yourself in the mouth for a brief feeling of power
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afternoon. We are especially honored to be joined by a very large number of senators and representatives from both parties who are here on the stage for this event; also Secretary Rubin and Attorney General Reno, Secretary Riley, Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder, Undersecretary of the Treasury Jim Johnson. And you will hear in just a few minutes from Senator Feinstein, Senator Chafee, Representative Conyers, Representative McCarthy. Also in the audience is Mayor Paul Helmke from Fort Wayne, Indiana, and Bob Walker, president of Handgun Control, Inc.
We have come together in the wake of a terrible tragedy that has put our entire nation in mourning and that was reminded all of us once again that everything in life pales in comparison to our ability to keep our children safe and out of harm's way. Today our thoughts and prayers remain with the families and friends and the citizens of Littleton as they bid emotional farewells to their beloved children and a dedicated teacher. Yet, even in the midst of this terrible tragedy, we also see the people of Littleton pulling together to pray and comfort and sustain each other, and many of the rest of us are gathering strength and hope from their example.
There are many people here today, out in the audience and on this stage, who have worked tirelessly to create the safe schools and communities that we all want for our children. I particularly want to thank Attorney General Reno and Secretary of Education Dick Riley and Secretary Bob Rubin because they have worked together tirelessly to try to create better conditions to provide for the safety of our children.
I also want to thank all the members of Congress who are here, who have proved that ending the violence and limiting access to firearms can be and should be a bipartisan goal.

There are many others in this room who are on the front lines in creating safer communities -- religious groups, advocates for gun control, victims' groups, n. I don't know
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>>6327913
And your friend is a failure.
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>>6328012
Lewd badgers are best!

Also, shit is captcha being a dick to anyone else? Like 3 fails in a row to post once!
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children will have disagreements and arguments. They sometimes will even have fights among themselves. Part of growing up is learning how to control one's impulses, which is often difficult for young people. But there is a very big difference between a schoolyard fight that many of us can remember and what happens today, with the access to the arsenal of guns, rifles, and bombs that the two young men in Littleton were able to bring into their school.
It is criminal how easy it is for children in America to obtain guns. Just last year 6,000 students were expelled for bringing guns to school, and Littleton is the latest tragic example of how the availability of those guns can turn a sense of alienation, of rage, of not belonging, of not fitting in into a deadly encounter. Every day in America we lose 13 precious children to gun-related violence. Every two days, therefore, we lose the equivalent of a classroom of students.
"Guns" and "children" are two words that should never be put together in the same sentence, and this president and this administration have been working hard and successfully to try to keep them apart. I think we all in America should take pride in the passage of the Brady bill, which has denied handguns to 250,000 felons, fugitives, and stalkers. And since the crime bill was enacted, 19 of the deadliest assault weapons are harder to find on our streets. We will never know how many tragedies we've avoided because of these efforts, but we do know how much more remains to be done.


Today we will hear about further steps that we hope all of us are willing to take to make our schools and communities places in which all citizens can live in safety, free from violence and fear.
In a few minutes, the people of Littleton, Denver and, indeed, all of Colorado will be stopping whatever they do for a moment of silence on behalf of those who lost their lives. I think it for answers, and I suspect that no one answer is going to be found to
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>>6328005
but look at this qt

how can you say no to him
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schools and communities that we all want for our children. I particularly want to thank Attorney General Reno and Secretary of Education Dick Riley and Secretary Bob Rubin because they have worked together tirelessly to try to create better conditions to provide for the safety of our children.
I also want to thank all the members of Congress who are here, who have proved that ending the violence and limiting access to firearms can be and should be a bipartisan goal.

There are many others in this room who are on the front lines in creating safer communities -- religious groups, advocates for gun control, victims' groups, child advocates, law enforcement, community, and parent organizations -- and we thank you all for coming. You represent literally thousands, if not millions, of your fellow Americans.
All of us here are searching for answers to what happened in Littleton. I don't know that anyone will ever be able to explain fully the events of a week ago. Nor, I doubt, can we create a perfect set of solutions that, if followed, would have prevented what happened at Columbine High School or would stop forever acts of violence that occur in our communities around our country.
But that does not mean that we are either hopeless or helpless in the face of this tragedy. Instead, we have to work together to come up with the best possible solutions that we can craft, that we believe will make a difference for our children. We come here to say simply that there are some tough things we must be willing to s ure.
It will take strong leadership. I remember well
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this time and presenting to the Congress a package of very precise and very targeted statutes which could make a substantial change.
As for me, I have watched this issue for a long time. I have watched us lose leaders. I have watched us lose family members. And from the day that a man by the name of Patrick Purdy (sp) walked into a Stockton school yard some 20 years ago, I have seen the permeation of violence and guns down to a five-year old in Memphis, Tennessee, who last May took a gun to school to kill his teacher because that teacher had given him a timeout the day before. A five-year old, even before the so-called "age of reason," picking a gun off his grandfather's dresser and taking it to school to shoot his teacher. The way they found it is because they found some of the bullets and traced it to the weapon. And the arrest statement says he wanted to shoot his teacher, and other kindergarteners as well. That to me is the depths of societal woe, and we must begin to think very seriously about it.

For me, since I have been in the Senate, I have tried to concentrate on two issues, one of them being assault weapons and the other being bomb making, since of group of sheriffs in California met with me and said, "You know, it's possible to unload a handbook from the Internet and learn how to steal the equipment, break into the labs and build some of the most explosive bombs." Nothing therein has any legal application, all illegal application.
For three years, we've gotten it passed in the Senate, to have it deleted in conference. And I hope that this year -- we've worked on it with the Justice Department -- that there will be a bomb-making amendment that will pass this that will provide an opportunity that when there is knowledge that this can be used in a criminal way, t's support, the Senate passed an amendment which would prohibit the manufacture of 19 specific types of assault weapons. Th y-fire. And they have big eno
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This bill would provide that any person or entity harmed by gun violence, including city and county governments, has the right to sue gun manufacturers, dealers, and importers. He's also a sponsor of the Durbin-Chafee Children's Access to Firearms Prevention Act. This bill encourages adults to take steps to ensure gun safety in homes with children. It will provide penalties for parents who leave guns around the house without safety locks.
He's a man -- I think, a giant -- in the Senate; a very fine United States senator, and I am just delighted he's here today. Would you warmly welcome Senator John Chafee from the great State of Rhode Island.
(Applause.)
SEN. JOHN CHAFEE (R-RI): Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you very much, Dianne, for that very, very kind introduction. And I think we all owe a big round of applause to Dianne for the work she's done in connection with these. (Applause.)
Mr. President and Mrs. Clinton, I want to first thank you for all the leadership you've given in this effort. And it's going take -- we've got to be buckled down for the long haul here. It's not going to be easy, but with your leadership, I'm confident that we can achieve the results that we all seek.
I appreciate your asking me to be here with you today to talk about the shocking and deplorable problem of gun violence in our nation's schools. Reporters and commentators alike refer to "school violence." I can't help thinking to myself, this isn't about schools. It's about guns. This is about the insanely easy access Americans, including American children, have to guns. This is about the distorted interpretation of the Constitution that convinces otherwise rational citizens that it's their inalienable right to be armed to the teeth. It's the strangest way they've got that figured out. (Laughter.)
Too many of us shake our heads and say there's nothing we can do. Too many of us are quick to blame society or the media or Hollywood or sed by a child to harm himself or so period
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>>6328086
Badgers are for anything cute, this includes lewd.
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his many distinctions, which include being a founding member of the Congressional Black Caucus, Mr. Conyers is the second most senior member of the House of Representatives. He is now serving his 18th term. John Conyers.
REP. JOHN CONYERS (D-MI): (Applause.) Thank you very much.
I want to thank the president and the first lady for their courage and leadership in the wake of the Littleton tragedy. On all fronts, the president and the first lady and all of us here today, in the administration, and especially the Congress, continue to show us what leadership really means when the going gets difficult.
Now, the tragedy in Colorado was one of unprecedented proportion, but the sad truth is that each and every day, in every city and state, we experience firearm tragedies that snuff out lives that are just beginning. Each day in America, there are nearly two dozen firearm homicides. That amounts to a couple hundred a week. That's nearly 10,000 a year. And it doesn't include the 18,000 gun suicides that we experience each year.

That comes to a total of 35,000 gun deaths in the United States annually.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's got to stop. We can do better, and that's why we're called to this place today. Those numbers compare to two handgun murders in New Zealand a year, 15 in Japan, 30 in all of Britain -- all countries that have meaningful gun control.
Now the best guess is that there are over 250 million guns in America, nearly one for every citizen of this country. Our streets are swimming with these weapons of death and destruction. Handgun murders are the leading cause for the death of African American men ages 15 to 34. And overwhelmingly all the data shows that in non- recreational settings, firearms are almost always used aggressively, not defensively.
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>>6328005
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was killed on the Long Island Railroad, and told me that my son waswas killed on the Long Island Railroad, and told me that my son was fighting for his life. I thought of Suzanne Wilson, who lost her daughter last year in Jonesboro. I thought of all the other school shootings that we've seen in the last year and a half. I thought of all the committee hearings that we've had in the last year on how to deal with this issue.

And then I thought of all the victims in the last number of years that have lost someone. And here we are, talking about what can we do.
I have to tell you it's extremely frustrating, because we are faced with silence all the time. We're hearing from the other side already: "There is nothing we can do." I'm sorry, you have heard of so many proposals; there IS something we can do. There has to be something that we can do. (Applause.)
All of us here, every single one of us here -- and, believe me, a lot more -- are willing to fight for the American people. We're willing to fight for our children.
But you know what's going to happen? We'll go to committee, and there will be silence as the shootings go on. When we go to the speaker of the House and beg for a debate on the floor, there will be silence, and the shootings will go on.
We will fight for you, but I have to tell you, the American public's voice has to be heard. We have to hear from you. (Applause.)
"It's not going to work." Is that what you want to keep hearing? "It's not going to work. You can't do it." Please.
We're burying our children in Colorado, and tomorrow we'll be burying 13 more, and the day after that we will be burying 13 more -- every single day. Do we have to have a larger mass of killings for America to say, "Enough is derful -- can st two ooting. And I said to the president, "We have to do something." Womething." W
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>>6328099
How are cha Joker?, the other day someone was asking for you.
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Mayor Helmke and Bob Walker and others here. We have, I think, over 40 members of Congress here and two senators who went back to the floor to fight for this issue to be put on the floor today.
I would like to do two things. First, I want to tell you specifically what we are proposing, and I'll do that. But secondly, I would like to tie what we are proposing to all these culture arguments, and talk about, if you will, at least two cultures that exist in America, and say that I think this in the end is going to come down to what our conception of America as a community is and what our responsibilities to one another are.

I want to begin by saying that a lot of people have made remarkable contributions, I think, to this effort to get us to look at the violence of our culture and how it makes the most vulnerable of our children, without regard to their income or their social status, closer to the line of taking violent action, and how it complicates family life for everyone. I want to thank Hillary for what she's done. I also want to thank Al and Tipper Gore, who have done enormously important work on this for years to try to help us deal with the TV issues, the ratings, the V chips, and now the new efforts we've been making with the Internet community to give parents some more control over that, and the efforts we'll have to make to train the parents to figure out to do it, since their kids all know more about it than they do.
But this is very important stuff. In June, Tipper Gore's going to host our White House Conference on Mental Health, and the attorney general and Hillary and I were just talking about some of the things we can do to help to make sure that all of our schools have the adequate mentoring and mediation and even mental health services our kids need. All this is very important. A ght to bend over backwards to try to remove the opportunities for bad things happening
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>>6328113
I already did, I'm out of pics!
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bend over backwards to try to remove the opportunities for bad things happening if we have more kids that are vulnerable to doing those things, not an argument that we ought to say, well, we should walk away from that and just try to make sure everybody individually in the whole country never does anything wrong.
And what's the real problem here? The problem is we have another culture in our country that I think has gotten confused about its objectives. We have a huge hunting and sport shooting culture in America, and unlike many of you, I grew up in it. I was 12 years old the first time I took a 22 and shot it at a can on a fence post in the country. I know about this. We always talk about the NRA. The NRA has been powerful not only because they have a lot of money but because they can influence people who vote. And in that culture, people believe everybody should be personally responsible for their actions; if you just punish people who do wrong more harshly, fewer people will do wrong; and everybody tells me I've got a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, so don't fool with me; and every reasonable restriction is just the camel's nose in the tent; and pretty soon they'll come after my shotgun and I'll miss the next duck hunting season. And we smile about that, but there are some people who would be on this platform today, who lost their seats in 1994 because they voted for the Brady bill and they voted for the assault weapons ban, and they did it in areas where people could be frightened.

And the voters had not had enough time, which they did have within two more years, to see that nobody was going to take their gun away.
So we have more than one cultural problem here, and I want to make a plea to
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>>6328005
>zootopia
>porn
>horses

How is this not Zootopia related?
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the next deer season in my home state to think about this in terms of what our reasonable obligations to the larger community of America are.
Do we know for absolutely certain that if we'd had every reasonable law than the ones I'm going to propose here, that none of these school violence things would have happened? No. But we do know one thing for certain; we know there would have been fewer of them, and there would have been fewer kids killed in the last several years in America. We know that for certain. (Applause.) We know that.
And cultures are hard to change, and cultures should never be used to avoid individual responsibility. But we -- when we get to where we change, then we wonder -- we look back, and we say, "How could we have ever done it otherwise?"
Let me ask you something. Next time you get on an airplane, think about how you'd feel if the headline in the morning paper right before you got on the airplane was, "Airport metal detectors and x-ray machines abolished as infringement on Americans' constitutional right to travel." Think about it. That's the headline in the morning paper. Then right next to it there's another headline: "Terrorist groups expanding operations in the United States." And you read the two headlines, and you're getting on the airplane, exercising your constitutional right to travel, which is now no longer "infringed" by the fact that you might have to go through the metal detector twice and take out your money clip or take off your heavily metaled belt, and that somebody is x-raying your luggage as it gets on the airplane. It's unthinkable now, isn't it?


This will become unthinkable, too, that we should ever reverse these things, if we ever have enough sense to do them. (Applause.)
Now -- but we still have a cultural and a political argument that says to defend Americans' rights to reasonable hunting and less you're caught up in this sort of web of distorted logic and denial.
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change; it's the culture of hunting and sport shooting that has to stop financing efforts to frighten their members who are good, God-fearing, law- abiding, tax-paying citizens out there into believing that every time we try to save a kid's life it's a camel's nose in the tent, you know? (Applause.)
I have had to go to through those metal detectors as many as three times back when I had a real life -- (laughter) -- and I was traveling around because I had all kinds of stuff in there. You know, and every time I started to get a little aggravated, I'd think, "Boy, I don't want that plane to blow up." (Laughter.) You know? Make me go through a dozen times if you want to, and the person behind me.
Now, we've got to think about this in that way. These are the folks we have to reach. When there are no constituents for this movement, the movement will evaporate. When people from rural Pennsylvania and rural West Virginia and rural Colorado and Idaho start calling their congressmen and saying, "Hey, we can live with this. We can live with this. This is no big deal, you know? I mean, we're just out there doing what we do. We believe -- we'll gladly put up with an extra hassle, a little wait, a little this, a little that, because we want to save several thousand kids a year."
That is my challenge to you. (Applause.) That is what is going on.
Now here are the things we want to do. A lot of you won't think they're enough, but you remember the culture. You change the culture, we'll change the laws. You change the message, we'll do it. And none of them have anything to do with anybody's legitimate right to hunt.
First of all, we ought to strengthen the Brady law. (Applause.) It's kept 250,000 felons, fugitives, and stalkers from guns. The states now have the Insta-Check (sp) system, which is good. The mandatory waiting period has expired; that's bad, because we need it, in addition to the Insta-Check (sp) system, to give a coolin
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we haven't asked you to abolish your gun shows, but we've asked you to undergo the inconvenience necessary to save more lives. We don't have to be insensitive, we just have to be determined. But I'm telling you, if we don't do something about this gun show loophole, we're going to continue to have serious, serious problems. And it's very important. (Appaluse.)
The second thing we've got to do is to strengthen the assault weapons ban, to close the loophole that allows dealers to sell older high-capacity ammunition magazines manufactured abroad. Now, I bet you when Senator Feinstein was talking about this, you thought, "Now, who in the world could be against this?" I actually had a conversation with a member of Congress who said to me -- serious, a good person, who's a really good person -- when we were doing this back in '94, a really good person, this person I was talking to, who told me -- (laughter) -- let me tell you -- I just want you to understand what the argument was -- he said, "But you've got to understand, we've got people who use these bigger magazines for certain kinds of sport contests."
And I said, "Well, so what?" (Laughter.) But he said, "They'll beat me if I vote for this." I said, "They'll beat you if they think all you're doing is making their life miserable because some Washington bureaucrat asked you to do it. If you can explain to them that it's worth a minor alteration in their sporting habits to save people's lives, they won't beat you."
But my point is, you've got to help these people. See, you hear this, and you think, "God, this is a no-brainer, this is a hundred-to- nothing deal, who in the wide world could ever be" -- you have to understand, there is another culture out there, and almost everybody in it is God fearing, law abiding, tax paying, and they show up when they're needed, and they don't like t st pure s, which, as one of the previous members sai
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sold with all new guns. (Applause.)
Finally, it would crack down on illegal gun trafficking, doubling the number of cities now working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to trace every gun seized by the police. I know this is very important to Congresswoman McCarthy. (Applause.) It would require that dealers submit information not only on the guns they sell, but on used guns which are often very hard for law enforcement agents to trace. It would significantly increase penalties for gun runners caught trafficking large numbers of firearms. It would establish a national system, as soon as it's feasible, to limit handgun purchases to one a month, following the lead of Virginia. (Applause.)
You know, I've got to say, this is very interesting. When we were going over the list of things we wanted to propose, some people said, "Well, that might be a loser because it sounds to people who care about this like that's too many, and, you know, what is this?" You know, the states that have had big problems in the past with lots of illegal gun purchases and guns then being used for illegal purposes -- Virginia did this and it really helped them. This was a big deal. And, I just talked to Senator Robb about this a couple of days ago, and he said, "You know, all I can tell you is it's working in our state." So I would ask you to seriously consider what this might mean for our efforts to control the law enforcement aspects of this.
So, these are the things that I wanted to say. But I hope you'll remember what I said to you about the culture. We do have to keep working on the culture. Hillary's right about it, Al and Tipper Gore are right about it. We've got a lot of going to talk about it." She said, "They're just scared.
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be a stable one or a friendly one. If women do not have access to the full range of economic opportunities, then it's less likely their societies will be economically successful. That's something that's been proven time and again.
And on specific issues where we have encountered gross abuses of women's rights, such as the trafficking of women as though they were pieces of goods, or more sinisterly as drugs, we've spoken out against that as a nation -- that has been raised in bilateral conversations. And specifically with the Taliban and their very gross mistreatment and denial of rights to women, we've made it clear that that regime would not be recognized until it took steps to include women as citizens -- as human beings.
The secretary has memorably said, and I have repeated it on many occasions, that the kind of violence and discrimination against women that we see still too often around the world can no longer be excused as cultural, it needs to be called what it is: it is criminal. And it is something that the United States has a vested interest in recognizing and including as part of the way we evaluate our positions around the world.
AMANPOUR: There have been critics, most recently Michael Mandelbaum, I believe, in "Foreign Affairs," who said that American foreign policy has become, sort of, a social work versus pragmatism. Since you do so much of these democracy and civil society, activism, women's rights, do you -- is that a fair criticism do you think in today's world?
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Well, I think that it is very practical to look at the human needs of people around the world and factor those into foreign policy. Certainly during our Cold War years we were forced to sweep a lot of human rights abuses and denial of development and other matters under the rug, if you will, because we had a very specific objective, and that was to protect ourselves against Soviet expansionism, and to do everything we could to prevent countries and societies from falling prey to that.
Now that we no longer face that kind of threat, I think it is practical to see the world in a different way. Certainly our values remain the same, but if we want to have the United States be respected and recognized, as it now is, as the leader of the world, if we want to have friends and partners in every area from commerce to strategic involvement, then I believe we have to recognize the legitimate aspirations of the people in the societies with which we wish to do business.
So I don't view that as impractical. In fact, I view it as a long overdue practical assessment. Realpolitik, of course, means that we look at how countries are strategically located, and what our interests with them are, and how we balance them, but we now know that with the explosion of information, and with a continuing clamor for individual rights from all different kinds of groups -- not just women, but many ethnic, religious, racial groups -- it would be shortsighted of the United States not to factor that into our calculations.
So when I go around the world and I advocate for girls education, for example, it is because we have evidence and reason to believe that well-educated populations are more likely to understand and deal with the challenges of today and tomorrow, and therefore more likely to be involved in relationships that are positive with the United States.
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I believe deeply in forgiveness and reconciliation, on an individual basis and on a societal one, as well. And, I think forgiveness is an ongoing effort and challenge, and it is something that I think about and engage in nearly every day -- on little matters, as well as the obvious large ones. And I feel very committed to that kind of life. And so, for me, it is a choice that I make about how I wish to live my life, and I'm very gratified that my husband and I have a very strong relationship and a lot of understanding of one another and a great commitment to each other and that we both appreciate the role that forgiveness has to play in anyone's life. Part of it is our religious faith and part of it is just our experience of human nature and how one always has to be ready to forgive if one wants to go on and live without bitterness and hope.
I was thinking about that today in this refugee camp. I thought about it when I went to Bosnia. These people will confront much more difficult challenges to their capacity to forgive: seeing loved ones killed, losing track of children maybe never to see them again. And yet, I think they understands, as I do, that life is always unpredictable and often unfair, and yet we have to make the decision every day, will we live it with hope or not?
You know, a few weeks ago, Elie Wiesel spoke at the White House, and I'd asked him to speak more than a year ago -- long before we knew what would be happening here in the Balkans -- and he spoke on the perils of indifference. And in that speech, he, of course, reminded us of the worst atrocities of the century in the Holocaust, but he also spoke movingly about what was happening here in the Balkans. And certainly the message that I and many there took away came at the very end, when he was asked how on earth could he advo g an orphan because both his
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As a nation, we've reacted to the shootings at Columbine High School like almost no other event I can remember in recent memory. It has literally pierced the heart of America. Yet in my conversations with young people and parents over the past few weeks, I've heard less talk about people feeling helpless or hopeless and more about a growing consensus that finger-pointing doesn't lead to solutions and that we have to move forward together to take steps to end the violence, not only in our schools, but in our broader community, and that it is time, some might say past time, that we all play a role in making a positive difference in the lives of our children.
I want to thank the attorney general and the chair of the FTC for joining us today, as well as the many parents, educators, religious leaders, members of the media, and students who are here as well. I am pleased that we will be hearing from a fourth-grader this morning who will tell us how he became part of the solution in his home state of Washington.
I think all of us recognize that there is no single answer or solution to the problem of violence in our society, but that we must move on many fronts, from passing common-sense gun control efforts, to helping parents understand better how to exercise authority over the media that their children are exposed to, and enabling more parents to spend more time with their own children. We've come together to talk about some of the ways we can begin to reverse the culture of violence that is engulfing American children every day, particularly the role that the media plays in shaping the lives and values of our children and young people.
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In 1972, a surgeon general report said, and I quote, "We know that children imitate and learn from everything they see -- parents, fellow children, school, the media. It would be extraordinary indeed if they did not imitate and learn from what they see on television." The report went on to say that violence on television causes children either to mimic directly the actions they see or to act generally in a more aggressive way.

Yet today, more than 25 years after this report was written, our culture is even more saturated with TV programs, movies and songs that romanticize and glorify violence. What kind of values are we promoting when a child can walk into a store and find video games where you win based on how many people you can kill or how many places you can blow up?
We can no longer ignore the well-documented connection between violence in the media and the effects that it has on children's behavior. One study has found, for example, that if an actor is rewarded for violent behavior, children are more likely to imitate it. Another tells us that media violence has a particularly negative effect on children who already have a tendency toward aggressive or anti-social behavior. According to the American Psychiatric Association, viewers of violence not only become desensitized and fearful, they begin to identify with an aggressive solution to their own personal problems.
America's culture of violence is having a profound effect on our children, and we have to resolve to do all we can to change that culture. One of the ways that we can do that is to give parents the tools they need to control what their own children are exposed to, and we've already moved forward in that direction. Today's announcement is another important step in the fight against violence.
We know there is a lot of work to be done, but I am encouraged that so many leaders and ave to do together to meet those challenges.
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>>6328208
Ya most people do, hes not much of a thing anymore. He just spams once or maybe twice a week at most nowadays.
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Thank you for all that you've done to speak out, so strongly and with such effect, to protect our children.
The impact of media violence on children is one piece of a larger concern: the reduction and prevention of violence in society. We have made very real and substantial progress in recent years in reducing violent behavior in children and adolescents, but we've got to do much more, and we must learn much more about the problem. Recent tragic events have focused the nation's attention on a few very violent children and adolescents.
Children should have a chance to grow and develop in strong and healthy and positive ways. Promoting healthy development will require us to protect children from certain violent images which they're not developmentally prepared to handle. Very young children are unable to distinguish fact from fiction. Too often today children are exposed to images and messages that glamorize violence and minimize its consequences. Numerous studies have shown that violent programming can promote violent tendencies in children. Media violence can increase children's aggression towards others. Such programming can have a particularly negative effect on children who already vulnerable.
Advertising which uses violent images or encourages children to seek out violent content can also be damaging. Research demonstrates that until the age of 7, children are unaware of the persuasive content of advertising. Even after age 7, children and adolescents are still vulnerable to peer and status appeals, without being able to determine whether responding to those appeals will result in healthy lifestyle choices.
We want to work with the entertainment industry and not against it. We hope to improve the industry's knowledge base so that it too can make better choices that are in the interest -- the best interest -- of parents and chil heir children as well. The V-chip, in conjunction with content-based volunta of violent materials and why they are
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>>6328208
Yeah, he comes, gets banned for like five times, gives up and goes back to lurking for a while.
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>>6328208
He does it when he feels personally slighted.
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>>6328208
it kind of happens, it makes him feel powerful or something.
just post like normal
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I thank Mayor Corradini, Mayor Kane (sp), County Executive Curry and County Executive Dutch Rupesburger (sp) for the interest that our local government leaders have. I thank Representative Sheila Jackson- Lee for her passionate commitment to this issue and all of you, welcome to the White House.
And most of all, I want to say again how much I appreciate Arthur Saway (sp) for coming here and for sharing a child's perspective. We have other children in this audience today, and we are really here about them and their future.
As Hillary said, the tragedy at Littleton had a profound effect on America. It certainly had a profound effect on us and on our family, particularly after we had the chance to go to Colorado and visit with the families of the children who were killed and many of the young children who are still grievously wounded and the kids at the school with them, who are hurting still, and the teachers.
I do think that what Hillary said is right. We sense a determination, not only in that community but throughout our country, not just to grieve about this but to do something about it. The national grassroots campaign against violence against children is rooted in our faith that we can do better. We know we can prevent more youth violence if we work together across all the lines that divide us. We know we can do it if we are all willing to assume responsibility and stop trying to assign blame.
Of course, the responsibility begins at home. It must be reinforced and supported at school and houses of worship and the community as a whole. Those of us in public service must also do our part. There is broad and growing consensus for us to do more. Let me say I am also grateful -- (clears throat) -- excuse me. I am also very grateful that the gun manufacturers came here last month and voiced their support for common-sense restrictions to make it more difficult for guns to
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>>6328208
Yeah, some autist (autists?) spam like this roughly once a week or so when nobody falls for some shit bait they post; just report the posts and give it about ten to fifteen minutes for the janitors to notice
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>>6328253
Damn thats a nice draw. Source?
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>>6328110
I'll tell you what I told him you punk kid

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We have a lot to do this year, but this should be put at the top of the agenda, and not put on hold.
As you have already heard, members of the entertainment industry must also do their part. They, and the rest of us, cannot kid ourselves; our children are being fed a dependable daily dose of violence -- and it sells.
Now, 30 years of studies have shown that this desensitizes our children to violence and to the consequences of it. We now know that by the time the typical American child reaches the age of 18, he or she has seen 200,000 dramatized acts of violence and 40,000 dramatized murders. Kids become attracted to it and more numb to its consequences. As their exposure to violence grows, so in some deeply troubling cases of particularly vulnerable children, does the taste for it.
We should not be surprised that half the video games a typical seventh-grader plays are violent. Anyone who doubts the impact of the cultural assault can look at what now, over 30 years, amounts to somewhere over 300 studies, all of whom show that there is a link between sustained exposure -- hour after hour, day after day, week after week, year after year -- to violent entertainment and violent behavior.
What the studies say quite simply is that the boundary between fantasy and reality violence, which is a clear line for most adults, can become very blurred for vulnerable children. Kids steeped in the culture of violence do become desensitized to it and more capable of committing it themselves.
That is why I have strongly urged people in the entertainment industry to consider the consequences of what they create and how they advertise it. One can value the First Amendment right to free speech and at the same time care for and act with restraint. Our administration has worked to give parents more t d gg children on and lure them in. Every parent knows what respons the magazine with
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already that we are here, representatives of consumer groups, business groups and government, because of a shared concern, a perception that there are increasing instances of senseless violence involving young people -- recent events show that to be true -- and that something needs to be done about it. We can't just observe it and talk about it; we need to take some actions.
Our particular focus today is on concerns about the violent nature of too many video games, movies and recordings currently available to young people that have a violent content. In considering that issue, however, we must remember two points:
First, we must recognize that concerns about the content of these products arise in an area of artistic expression and that they border on areas protected by the First Amendment against government intrusion. And we would hope to keep that in mind.
Second, we recognize that the motion picture industry, the video game and recording industries have recognized these concerns and have each implemented voluntary systems to rate the appropriateness of products for their children. These ratings provide parents with valuable information to judge what products are appropriate.
But we all know that advertising and marketing also play an important role in influencing young people. Today, as never before, children and teenagers are subject to a steady barrage of commercial messages that influence their choice of what they see, wear, eat and buy. Like the entertainment industry, the advertising and marketing communities realize the value of self-regulation and have implemented self-regulatory approaches.
In fact, one of the best examples of self-regulation is the advertising community and the work of its Children's Advertising Review unit, which contains several provisions arned in our various projects f that group. He is a 9-year
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>>6328270
http://creativemechanics.tumblr.com/post/121328466088/whos-stoked-for-zootopia-zootopia-disney
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>>6328273
But no one watches the news. Unless you're a cute lewd badger? Are you a cute lewd badger?
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>>6328298
Huh that was supposed to be a badger, oh well next time I guess.
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>>6328298
I'm a (qt) news badger

Darn you to heck

>>6328322
You're lucky the image limit is reached or you'd be in for it senpai
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>>6328132
Shit, better start learning to draw then.
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>>6328337
Eh I'll stick to bug burga badgers
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>>6327678
Man, it is so crazy that photomorphs have been coming back.

Like, they never stopped, but I've seen more of them in the last month or so than I have in at least a decade, and I have no idea why.
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>>6328370
Still on page 4. I say we text post till page 10.
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>>6328370
Give it a few minutes and mods will make some room from all the joker posts. No need to make a new thread yet.
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>>6328370
Just when I was trying to do draw requests. RIP
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https://picarto.tv/meeshart
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>>6328380
Eh, thread pretty much dies when text only posting is in effect. I'll give it a few in case the mods swoop in but if not then new thread.
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>>6328086
Then where is his vaunted "new chapter"?
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>>6328423
Might be taking a while. Lots of CCs are late.
[spoiler]I'm late[/spoilersdontwork]
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>>6328421
We can talk about Zootopia culture. Like species specific, or how healthcare is handled.
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>>6328479
>When you want to use spoilers tags, but don't want to look like you don't know spoiler tags don't work on this board.
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>>6328508
What?
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>>6328479
It's been 3 months. Not even A Rabbit Clans Fox is worth that wait.
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Does anyone else have the "Art of Zootopia" book?
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>>6328554
Meh, Im in no hurry. Weird to hear that you have some sort of timeframe where content can be delivered to you. Going somewhere?
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>>6326604
You have my attention anon
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>>6328559

I ahve it
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>>6328508
>one of us doesn't know how spoilers work on /trash/
And I'm honestly not sure which of us it is.
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>>6328559
https://mega.nz/#!bRAF0JaB!r8x_1vxwjvZS3eJeFGR_NcfSicq2pOhjue9S_-1AhYs
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>>6328567
Probably to download more Joker pictures.
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>>6328479
>tfw i'm five months late on an update
get on my fucking level scrub
who else here is >late?
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task force one of the Urban Search and Rescue Team. On September 11, 2001, my team of 74 responded to the World Trade Center tragedy to assist with the rescue and recovery efforts.
REALL: We arrived in Manhattan at 6:00 a.m. on September 12, where we remained until September 19. Our day shift crews were assigned to begin work immediately in the Liberty Sector on the southwest quadrant of the collapsed area.
During our operations, conditions at the site were hazardous at best. Dust and paper were everywhere. A night shift when I worked, visibility was extremely limited due to the dust in the air reflecting light.
While the paper became less of a problem throughout the eight-day period, dust and the smoke from the ever-burning fires were always present. During the first 24 to 36 hours of our deployment, respirators were difficult to obtain. We carry full-face cartridge respirators in our cache (ph) for compliance base operations. How eriencing an increased number of illnesses. Fourteen of our members sought medical attention within weeks of the incident for respiratory ailments. Diagnoses ranged from pneumonia to reactive airway dysfunction syndrome.
One of our members was hospitalized for five days and treated aggressively for his symptoms. Another experienced a hernia due to the excessive coughing. Many others experienced infections of a non- respiratory nature -- skin disorders and various other ailments. Almost every team member experienced hoarseness, gravelly voice and nasal blockage for many weeks after the incident.
Until the recent publi shed reports in the New England Journ ding their health and treatment. He found the deployed members were 2.7 times more likely to require antibiotics
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antibiotics for respiratory infections and 3.2 times more likely to require medical care than our non-deployed members.
This information has been extremely helpful in educating our team about the need for appropriate medical surveillance. During the development of the Urban Search and Rescue response system, the primary focus was on how to protect our members from failed structures that may collapse and trap us. For this, we learned how to shore up buildings with wood to create safe areas to work.
After Oklahoma City, we extended our focus to how to withstand the psychological and emotional effects of man-made disasters taking hundreds of lives. For this, we learned how to strengthen the support network, in both pre and post deployment to enable us to keep the people we have trained.
After September 11, we must extend our focus to the unknown health effects our members will face in short and long term future. For this, we must be able to monitor their health completely from the time they join the team until they retire from the team and in all phases in between.
Our Urban Search and Rescue teams function on a shoestring budget of $150,000 per year. $100,000 of this is eaten up immediately in fixed costs like insurance, utilities and maintenance of equipment. The other $50,000 must be utilized to maintain training levels, provide basic protective equipment and plan for the times when we won't be reimbursed for our expenses.
That doesn't leave us much room for $1,000 medical exam for 180 personnel. The budget has put us in a Catch-22 situation with the Department of Labor. Our members are repeatedly denied their coverage under federal workers compensation because we don't have enough data to create a causal relationship between the incident and diagnosis.
Yet, we don't have the funds to obtain full medical surveillance to provide that relationship. The member who spent five days in the ho tain members particip ber 11. We appreciate
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. Kelly and Mr. Reall -- first Dr. Kelly -- in looking at the future needs of the firefighters that you care for and taking into account what Dr. Prezant's (ph) research demonstrated clearly in the publications that have come out recently, do you currently have the resources you need to adequately track the physical and mental health of all those who responded at the World Trade Center?
KELLY: We do have an existing infrastructure. We have people and physicians and a staff who wish to follow people. But we don't have the current resources for that. We are set up to do annual evaluations of our members, but again, the two areas of concern are that so many of our members are retiring prematurely and we need a mechanism of following those individuals, which is a goal that we have.
And the second is I think it is very important to continue to support the people who are a part of our environment, because there are so many reasons for them to leave that we need to support what is going on in their mental and physical concerns.
Your group was there a week, so you can imagine how it is like for our group who was there so long. I think thblications that have come out recently, do you currently have the resources you need to adequately track the physical and mental health of all those who responded at the World Trade Center?
KELLY: We do have an existing infrastructure. We have people and physicians and a staff who wish to follow people. But we don't have the current resources for that. We are set up to do annual evaluations of our members, but again, the two areas of concern are that so many of our members are retiring prematurely and we need a mechanism of following those individuals, which is a goal that we have.
And the second is I think it is very important to continue to supp ation looks to our group to see how we are doing as a group because of the exposures that we've had.
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d of assistance.
And Ms. Wils, I know that you've had some ave and the follow up work, because a lot of the th eaking out fo mportant hearing.
JEFFORDS: Thank you for your excellent help. It is an important vote.
Dr. Kelly, as you know we have discussed many times over the last year the need for health monitoring and tracking programs for our first responders. I am impressed by the study you have conducted with New York City firefighters. Based on that experience, I would like to know what you think an effective program would include and what would it cost -- the latter one may be a little problem for you, but.
KELLY: We are very thankful for Senator Clinton, who has introduced an amendment to help give us some resources for this. Again, we have an existing program, a bureau of health services with a facility, nurses; physicians who are prepared to follow people. What we are looking to do is to continue to monitor people after they have retired on the premise that these are people who have really been in the first line in a war and just as you would follow veterans who have been in an event, you want to follow a group of people that have been exposed to toxins and other substances that appear to be having some pulmonary problems.
The firefighter who is hired by our department has a set of tests done at the time they come on. We know what their preexisting pulmonary function test, chest x-ray; EKG is because we have them on premises. So, we have an ability to follow people if there are changes, for example, their pulmonary function test or their chest x- ray.
Our initial changes that we have been seeing have been people with wheezing and hyper-reactive airway disease. The concern we have is down the line. Will there be further changes, either in their breathing capacity or any restrictions in their lung because of the, again, the powder, the substances that they have been exposed to, as well as monitoring their other
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real one. We, too, stand to lose up to 50 percent of our work force over the coming five years.
And so, we have been engaged in a very aggressive outreach to recruit new, young people to the Environmental Protection Agency, but at the same time to provide opportunities for those within the agency to see a real career path, to make it worth their while to stay, to understand that there are opportunities for them to expand their horizons. We've been aggressive with SCS (ph) mobility. We have tried to encourage people to take advantage of new educational opportunities.
In respect to response to 9/11, while our on scene coordinators were well trained and were able to do a significant job, they needed more training and we have been very active and aggressive in more training. We have hired, as I have indicated initially, 75 new personnel. We are starting a wes oast to respond to any kind of a crisis that may occur -- of this sort occur across the country.
We have undertaken a number of steps to ensure the security of all our people around our country, in all the offices around the country so that they understand that we care about their security as well, that we are concerned about it, that we are focused on it and that we will do all that we can to make sure that they understand what is happening when it happens, what the procedures are in place and that we provide them with all the protection necessary.
We are continuing with an aggressive training program fod for years and frankly, so has the previous administrations.
But I would really like to know, where do you stand in terms of recruitment, maintaining your people, reshaping your work force, getting yourself in the position where if we get hit again, you are going to be able to do -- you know, we're going to be able to do a better job of responding to the situation.
WHITMAN: o I apologize, but I would coordinators, providing them with additional equipment.
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REALL: Well, I think a good start has begun already through the work of Congress in funding our preparedness for weapons of mass destruction nationwide. That will give us a lot of the equipment and the training needed to not only identify, but help protect our members in the event that we respond to incidents of this nature in the future.
I think the primary thing that we are going to focus our efforts on in Ohio are on, because we are not a single fire department team. We are made up of people from around the state of Ohio.
We need to concentrate our efforts on creating that baseline, medical, like Dr. Kelly spoke of and then being able to follow up and monitor the pulmonary function test annually or semi-annually on our members. We've identified that as a problem in these kinds of events now in these major collapses and it will be an ongoing problem, so we need to take the steps to be able to protect our members.
But, of course, that takes funding.
JEFFORDS: What can be done to increase the safety of these teams.
REALL: Well, right now we have to make some changes in our cache (ph) equipment in order to be able to appropriately identify the hazards at the scene early on, prior to the response of federal agencies.
We're there very early into the incident and it takes some time before you get different nuclear emergency support teams or EPA there to appropriately monitor the air. We need to be able to do that ourselves and make the appropriate recommendations to our team members for the respiratory protection and/or any other protection that they need at the site.
JEFFORDS: What additional resources are needed to ensure that teams are prepared for all types of disaster. I know that's a broad question.
REALL: I don't think we'll ever be prepared. We learn from
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preparation we have.
The equipment is something that we learn on each incident, what different types of things we need and what is out there. Some of the things that after the World Trade Center incident, our respirators that we wear on a daily basis and even the ones that are available right now are not meant to be worn for 14 hours a day, day in day out.
They are just not made for that kind of arrangement. There obviously needs to be some work on those kind of pieces of equipment should we encounter something like that in the future -- decontamination equipment and the ability to decontaminate appropriately at the scene is a high priority as well.
Our decontamination of our team members didn't come in until three or four days after the initial response.
JEFFORDS: Ms. Wils, are the residents of lower Manhattan currently participating in a health tracking or monitoring program?
WILS: Yes, Senator Jeffords. There has been an effort just in the last couple of weeks to start an indoor air testing program. It has taken a while to get this started, because there has been many, many differing opinions in the scoping issues and methodology used.
And approximately, I think, about 4,500 households have signed up for this. One of the problems, though, is that if you sign up for just testing, if you -- if they bring in a modestly aggressive method to test for asbestos only in your home and if they don't find anything, they don't clean up.
These methods are questionable and people don't know what to ask for.
WILS: They are not that knowledgeable in this. And if you are being tested
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ugh for the outstanding job that they have done in responding to a situation that none of us would have ever anticipated in our lifetime.
So often in these hearings, we just talk about the problems and don't talk about all of what you've taken on with the work forces that, frankly, weren't shaped to deal with this kind of tragedy.
I know that you are doing the best that you can to move forward and to try and respond as well as you can to the things that are still out there. I think that we owe you a great debt of gratitude to the two of you and to your staffs and to your families for the time and effort and sacrifice that you've made on behalf of your country. So, I want to get that out before we get into the questions part of this.
In that same note, Joe, you and I've quoted you in speech after speech when you've testified before this committee and said "We have not been spending enough time internally on our employees. Before 9/11, retention was a problem and there was essentially no recruitment. Over the next 18 months, nearly 50 percent ds and e and the work that we did together on Water 2000 and the Florida restoration project and also sharing my frustration while we were ranking members of this committee trying to come up with a bill that would harmonize our energy and our environmental needs. We're going to really miss you, Bob. You've been a wonderful member of this committee and I'm going to miss you.
I'd like to thank Administrator Whitman and Director Allbaugh for the outstanding job that they have done in responding to a situation that none of us would have ever anticipated in our lifetime.
So often in these hearings, we just talk about the problems and don't talk about all of what you've taken on with the work forces that, frankly, weren't shaped to deal with this kind of tragedy.
I know that you are doing the best that you can to move forwardspouses."
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testing 250 homes only for these other toxic substances and we think it is very important that after they clean up, they test all the homes for these substances.
JEFFORDS: Mr. Greenberg, your Legal Aid Society had extended interactions with FEMA and other federal agencies. Based on your experience, what suggestions can you give us today to help improve the federal government's interaction with non-profit organizations during and after major disasters?
GREENBERG: I think first, to reiterate, I think they were, by in large, very good, and in particular, the FEMA center downtown, I think served many of the people that Ms. Wils talked about and many others.
The definition of who is a victim, I think, could be somewhat broader. We have defined a victim as somebody who lives in a geographic area, but obviously, if you worked in that geographic area and your job ceased to be any more, even if you lived in Queens or in some other part or in New Jersey or some other place, clearly you need some kind of help and the flexibility to define who is a victim, I think it needs to be somewhat broader rather than merely being geographic.
Secondly, as to non-profits per se, again, I think they play an important role in all the help that people need after a tragedy. I think that the definition that a non-profit can be eligible for FEMA help, even if they are not strictly in the terms that now that FEMA used, an essential service, that broadening of definition would be helpful.
JEFFORDS: Senator Voinovich?
VOINOVICH: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Reall, thanks very much for being here today and thanks for your task force members responding to September 11 tragedy. I think you know that the members of this committee an approved for a payment of $1,000. Were her is in the hands of the Department of Labor. The
We've rned and the claim be made.
I, 74 you had 14 that seemed to
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nal opportunities.
In respect to response to 9/11, while our on scene coordinators were well trained and were able to do a significant job, they needed more training and we have been very active and aggressive in more training. We have hired, as I have indicated initially, 75 new personnel. We are starting a wes oast to respond to any kind of a crisis that may occur -- of this sort occur across the country.
We have undertaken a number of steps to ensure the security of all our people around our country, in all the offices around the country so that they understand that we care about their security as well, that we are concerned abcome.
REP. SHAYS: Thank you. First, I thank Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer for their effort in the Senate, and obviously for Congressmen Weiner and my chairman, Sherry Boehlert. When these two gentlemen first introduced this bill, I thought, "What are they talking about?" We saw these planes hit. They were filled with an extraordinary amount of fuel. It's obvious that they would have eventually collapsed. What's there to know that we didn't all get to see first- hand.
From the very beginning of the hearings, we just learned so much. We learned about building materials. We learned about where the stairways were put. We learned that had we looked at building number seven, that was basically allowed -- it burned for nearly seven hours or more and then collapsed. When could you have this wonderful case -- horrible case study of what happens whout it, that we are focused on it and that we will do all that we can to make sure that they understand what is happening when it happens, what the procedures are in
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system in place to allow a team such as ours and many other teams -- Senator Corzine talked about the New Jersey team. I believe they are in the same situation we are -- they're multi-jurisdictional teams. I individually have a system in place to get baseline physical and annual medical testing done through my fire department, my primary employer, but as a team, we don't have that kind of system in place and we don't have a standardized pulmonary function test to utilize for team members.
VOINOVICH: It seems to me that at this stage of the game that that would have been one of the first things they would have done -- I'd like any other comment from any of the witnesses. Have you experienced this same thing in terms of compensation at all? Have people complained to you about the fact that they had to go through all kinds of paperwork in order to get help?
KELLY: Our department was in place and we were ready to take care of the physical needs of the firefighters and the EMTs who had been at Ground Zero so that we were able to pull together the resources that we already had in place and put together funding through NIAGE (ph) and the CDC to do these medicals, because we were aware very early on that people were having respiratory problems. We started seeing those symptoms very quickly and because we have an occupational medicine program in place for our New York City fire department, we were able to notice these symptoms and respond quickly.
VOINOVICH: So, you did it yourself. Have any of them filed for compensation under the federal program that Mr. Allbaugh made reference to. I think it's called the federal -- it's like a federal workers compensation program. He basically said in his testimony, well, they're all now like working for the federal government.
Have your people used that system or have they just gone outside...
KELLY: I don't know the answer to that. We have our own mechanism
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