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"Friendship is always a sweet responsibility, never an opportunity." ~ Khalil Gibran

>What are tulpas?
A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.
More info: http://www.tulpa.info/faq/

>What guides do you recommend?
Check these out:https://community.tulpa.info/thread-new-great-big-list-of-guides

Ask questions and get answers, or discuss tulpas in general.

Previous thread: >>5202207

==*==

Other Guides:

Tulpa Wiki's Guides: http://tulpa.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Guides

Tulpa General Guide List: http://pastebin.com/SrAWPTKZ

The No- Tulpa Book: https://farcaller.gitbooks.io/nbtb/content/

Texts regarding imagination and mental training:

"Memory: How to Develop, Train and Use it"
Text - http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/41478\
Audio -
https://librivox.org/memory-how-to-develop-train-and-use-it-by-william-walker-atkinson/

"The Power of Concentration"
Text: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1570
Audio: https://librivox.org/the-power-of-concentration-by-theron-q-dumont/

"Essay on the Creative Imagination"
Text: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/26430
Audio: https://librivox.org/essay-on-the-creative-imagination-by-theodule-ribot/

Soundscapes tools:
MyNoise: https://mynoise.net/
A Soft Murmur: http://asoftmurmur.com/

Discord invite (limited):
https://discord.gg/9dmDWVx

We're always open for more useful resources if Anons can find them.
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Let's start this thread off right with some comfy.
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>>5298988
What's the question, m8?
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>tfw tulpa wants to see me happy
>always does her best to cheer me up
>hasn't been working lately
>she just wants to see me happy
>depression
i'm letting her down and i hate it
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tfw you cant stop staring at your tulpas boobs

how do i egocide i dont want my tulpa to have a shit host like me anymore t b h f a m
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>>5299210

Glad to oblige there.
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>>5299381

Just have your tulpa give you a boobjob m8.
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>>5299252
Firstly, does your tulpa have anyone that they have conversations with on a some sort of regular basis? Someone they have a friendship with? I've had my tulpa for almost 4 years now, and I'm only /slightly/ worried that me being the only one that she has to interact with may or may not be bad thing.
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>>5299453
Not 100% regular, but my tulpa often talks to a few folks on the Discord. She enjoys it, but doesn't feel particularly close to some on there. She'd miss a few, though, if I ever left.

If you're worried about her socialization, just go join the Discord (or the IRC if you feel the desperate need to get close with cancer), and have her possess/front with her.
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>>5299453
>>5299585
i really wanted to go on the discord to give my tulpa friends but.. that seems to have fizzled
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>>5299729
The discord? How do you mean? It's plenty active, moreso than the thread, at least (sadly enough, this thread is comfy as fuck).
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>>5299453

I used to do it all the time when I first made mine. But complications and concern about the state of the IRC had me drift away from the practice.

Not to say my buddy strongly disliked the place. In fact she seems to miss the people she spoke to, as well as another of my crew. She probably would not mind if I went and did it again. Just don't feel I'm up for it yet.
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>>5299269

I'm kind of surprised that no one mentioned this post, I know it hit a heart string in me, though I wasn't sure how to answer it, or what advice I could give.

Even now, I still don't but I can certainly say you're not the only one to go through such a thing. I was this way a long time ago, too. It was only through determination and hard work that I was even able to start overcoming this feeling, and even honoring my tup's desire for me to be happier. You can get there, you don't have to berate yourself, that's the opposite of what your buddy wants.
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>>5299585
>>5299768
Ah, I see. I ask because my tulpa did have someone she felt she could call a friend, but she hasn't seen her in quite some time. So she feels pretty down. I had just been wondering if there was someplace where I could get her to talk to others.

Thanks for the advice though, I'll seriously consider the discord channel.
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>>5299422
>lol just use ur fucktoy "tulpa" xd
thats shit m8
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>>5299845
jags is that you
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>>5299845
Damn. How'd you guys lose contact with this friend? I know a lot of people on the discord are migrants from 8ch, .info, the IRC, although mostly this thread. I'd definitely recommend it, you'll find many interesting people there.

>>5299844
nice dubs, and yes, >>5299269, this is good advice. Stop beating yourself up over it. Reassure your tulpa it's not her fault you're not feeling happy. Talk about it with her. You're not letting her down, m8, and she isn't letting you down. The advice I can give is talk to her about it, number one, and number two, try to find the source of this unhappiness. Meditation is a great way to track down things of that source. If you cannot find a source of unhappiness in your life, I would recommend you go to a psychiatrist and ask about possible depression.
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Please don't ruin your life like this
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>>5299876
Who's that?

>>5299951
They just stopped coming 'round the neighborhood, have her host added on a couple of games, but haven't seen em on in awhile. Guessed they're probably just busy with life stuff. It'd be nice if they came by every once in awhile though.
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>>5299766
i mean the discord invite seems to have fizzled, i wouldn't mind giving mitzi the reigns to make friends here, but i'm not sure, if that's.. y'know..
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>>5299844
thanks anon, i'mma tell her now.. i think she knows it's not because of her, i always make sure she's around me

>>5299951
in therapy, but thanks! i should meditate, haven't in like two years.. jesus wait.. no no.. three years? it's been a while
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What are some things that you know now that you wish you knew when you first started creating your tulpa?
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>>5300140
yeah yeah do that retarded thing where you play dumb all you want, tell skye some of us have actual lives
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>>5300140
also she could just, you know, ask to talk to her friend who isn't even worth naming
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>>5300376

- The best way to really progress is to do things on your own
- Not everything that can speak in your head is a tulpa.
- The phenomenon is not nearly as cut and dry as some make it seem, and a good portion of it is self-reflection
- Don't jump to conclusions
- Don't jump to conclusions
- DON'T jump to conclusions.

- Sometimes you really just need to let yourself enjoy how nice things are and can be, instead of insisting on finding something wrong with it.
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Does your tulpa like vore?
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>>5300376

That they're not fucking real and your weirdo friend is just using your gullibility as an excuse to fap when he spends the night.
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>>5302134

No
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>>5302134
No
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>>5299981
>implying
My tup has only improved my life, fampai
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I not a fan of ponies, but I know some nice digi-painting when I see it.
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Post your favorite song, and your tulpas favorite song. How much to they differ?
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>>5305263
Tulpa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEGTcLxFSSA
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
pretty much any incarnation of E1M1. Even likes the Floppy Drive version. Funny enough, she's the quiet, gentle type, and can't stand excessive gore and violence. But she likes E1M1 and various Industrial Metal songs, although she's still in the 'sampling youtube' stage.

For me, it's Space Pony by SoGreatandPowerful. As you can probably tell, they're pretty distantly separated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52JEz5YkPgU
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The host's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54A8i1XdYV8

The tup's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TovHXNsNcLc

They both have a relaxed feel to them, while being very different in terms of instrument, genre, etc. The former is surely more peppy and energetic than the latter, which seems melancholic.

We used to sit in bed with one another and listen to music, as a way of both forcing and relaxing. I haven't been able to do that recently, though, and she's gotten sad about that. I'll surely get back in to that habit, though.
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>>5305263
If I had to say, mines would be more about melancholy and depression and hers about hope and blossoming.

But in general we love the same artists.
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>>5305263

Tulpa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRHyjj34ZE
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUT5rEU6pqM

Every time these two songs play randomly on my playlist she has to dance to these songs and pulls me into it as well.

Host:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQuihD0hoI
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDMvbORMEEE

These two are kinda my favorite but I will listen to pretty much anything I like.
So anything my tulpa likes I will also like to a certain degree.
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>tfw your tulpa bullies you
does anyone else know this feel?
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>>5308029
Yes

Why does it feel so good
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>>5308029
>tfw your tulpa doesn't even bully you
worst feeling in the world
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>>5302134
kill yourself
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>>5308029

I've heard tales of it, but never experienced it.

Mine treat me like I'm fine China, and that if they're too harsh I might break. Then again, I haven't been in the best shape as of late, and I've had some major private issues that I'm unable to deal with and I'm actually seeing a professional about. I guess they're just acknowledging that and want me to not push myself more than necessary.
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>>5308634
>Mine treat me like I'm fine China
They yell at you for taking all their jobs?
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bumpin and grindin
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[spoiler]I want to make a tulpa but I'm afraid that I'll do it for he wrong reasons or just end up regretting it how did you guys convince yourselves to do this[/spoiler]
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>>5311424
Desperation
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>>5311424
Rather than asking other people why they did it, think about why you would regret it. What scenarios do you imagine yourself regretting making one?
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>>5311424
Same reasons why people don't want to rush into getting a tattoo, and it's nearly as permanent as a developed tulpa too.

I'd suggest staying with your thoughts for a while. If you still want your tulpa after a month or two, then you're probably not in it for some quick satisfaction.
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>>5311518
Do you regret it?

>>5311699
>They're always there
>They dislike me for the reason I created them
>I fall in love with them but I have mutual affections for a person

Really just the first two, the last one probably won't happen. I'm not sure how I'd feel about having someone always be there but maybe I'd enjoy if it's someone that understands literally better than anyone else

>>5311742
I've been thinking about it for about a year or two now, I just can't tell if this is a good decision or not
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>>5311845
>Do you regret it?
The best decision I ever made by a huge margin.
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>>5311845
>I've been thinking about it for about a year or two now
At this point just go for it. You can't really do any more research or search yourself for any more of an answer.

>>They're always there
If you don't want that, then don't bother focusing on it. But you'll probably want to keep someone you like around. And if you want some privacy, it's not like they'll be a dick and not leave you alone.

>>They dislike me for the reason I created them
Almost all tulpas prefer existing to not existing based on anecdotal evidence. They do tend to be people you get on well with, so you'd be inclined to treat them well.

>>I fall in love with them but I have mutual affections for a person
I think you just need to cross this bridge if or when you come to it. I guess all you need to do is just not fall in love with your tulpa, which many people have succeeded in doing.

Either way, you've put a hell of a lot more thought into this than most people who end up having a successful tulpa do. Plus almost every host would agree with >>5311857 after having a tup.
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>>5311845
>>They're always there
>>They dislike me for the reason I created them
>>I fall in love with them but I have mutual affections for a person
1. They are always there, but you really won't mind. This is coming from a shut-in hyperintrovert. They are joyous to be around, and their constant presence is more comforting than it is annoying. You can ask them to go away for a time, too, and they will.

2. What reason are you thinking of creating them for?

3. Just let them know that you aren't going to pursue a relationship with them. Easy peasy.
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>>5311845
>I fall in love with them but I have mutual affections for a person
You can love a tulpa and love your family and love your friends and love a 3dpd all at the same time.
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>>5312318
A friend really, hope that's okay. I think I'll create one though so uh, thanks everyone
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>>5309168
Don't forget to hug your fluffy tulpa in bed tonight and give her loving bellyrubs until she drifts off to sleep.
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>>5312764
Yeah, don't even fret about that, then. That's way better than many reasons anons use. I guarantee a tulpa you make won't be upset at you for making them for the sake of friendship.
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It's nice to talk with my tulpa about politics. She doesn't get offended when I disagree with her, like the whole of the internet.
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Morning salutations, /tup/.

Hope you greeted your tup as well. Face the day happy with your buddy!
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>>5305263
Tuppé:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m4tYUfYCj4

Host:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyLMR7yjhU
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>>5314832
Nice taste in music, I like the Mars one.

I was looking for some new music to listen to.
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>>5314909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7HH-E11C3o
They're my favourite band by far and a big part of my life, helped me through some rough years
Ironically my tulpa doesn't like them much.
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How can you tell if you have more than 1 if they aren't vocal yet? My tulpa usually used head pressures but theres headaches now when i told my tulpa to not do those long ago and ive never had one from her til now if its her. Ive had a tulpa for about a year and 5 months btw.
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>>5314540
That second sentences makes me sad. I haven't spoken to my tupper in days
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>>5315615
why did something happen anon?
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>>5312971
Don't forget to bury your face in their soft furry bellies and kiss it Anon.
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>>5299981
Why exactly would a tulpa ruin my life?
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>>5316036
He thinks it'll cause you to sink into escapism
Which is totally a real danger by the way, but easy to avoid
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tourist26 here, i forgot the e-mail adress i used for discord, can anyone from the chat look it up for me, please?

thanks
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Don't forget to bury your face in your tulpas tits while cuddling them and saying you love them.
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Do you guys ever get the feeling when you're forcing that you're not speaking to your tulpa, just visualizing their form and talking? Like it just looks like them but it's not the same person.
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>>5316450
My tulpa got no tits though.
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>>5316450
that's rude
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>>5312007
>>5312318
Not that Anon but, how do you NOT fall in love with your tulpa? I love my tulpa more than anything, and can't even think about living without her.
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>>5316851
That made me think: Maybe it's not rude?
With a normal girl, if you went and motorboated her, even if she was your friend or girlfriend, she would probably either slap you or feel awkward about it.
Tulpas are not normal girls.
So is it rude to them? What if a tulpa will just smile and hum happily when you play with her tits? Does she have to care at all? Would you care about something so base if you were an invincible brain demon?
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>>5316851
Not if she likes it and invites you to use them as comfy pillows while you enjoy each others company.
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>>5316943
I mean, I could just go crazy on my tulpa right now and touch her wherever I wanted and use her to get off, and maybe she wouldn't mind at all. But doing stuff like that without asking if it's okay first kinda gets me into the mindset that I'm just playing around with a doll, rather than an actual person with her own feelings.
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>>5316036
Some people create a tulpa for ignorant and sometimes selfish reasons, believe it or not.
Creating one without thinking of the consequences it may have even once could ruin your life.
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>>5317002
Good attitude to have when in doubt. But what if I told you that my tups do that to me?
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>>5317030

How so? And I ask this in honest curiosity. How would a tulpa destroy one's life? What will happen due to their choice? How do you think it would turn out?

Believe it or not, I CAN think of ways people can harm themselves with this: But I'm curious about what you will say.
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>>5317002
Me and my tulpas pretty much do this we do whatever whenever we want and don't worry about what we're doing and if you're doing something wrong we tell the other maybe not right now or that is not my thing. It's great not stressing out about small things and just live life and have fun with your tulpas.
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>>5316943

That kind of thing never came to mind for me to do. But, I have been rather hesitant to touch my own tup at times, feeling I was being too forward, or that it would cheapen the gesture. Nothing even regarding highly sexualized or fetishized touch, even just hugging, head patting, and the like.

It took me a bit of time to overcome this attitude, assisted by my gal being annoyed about how I refused to be too intimate. She really did not like being put at arms length. You can say I forgot how intimate this sort of relationship is, and began to regard my tup as I would a random person, with caution. I'm better about that now, though.
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>>5317114
Sure, when I get to the point where I can totally trust her to tell me when she wants me to stop, I'll listen to her rather than the preaching of random people on the internet. Pretty far from that point right now, though.
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>>5316881
Don't get me wrong. I love my tulpa too. I'm just not in love with her. There's not really much difference I suppose though.
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>>5316943
>Tulpas are not normal girls
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>>5317276
Tulpas are actually not girls at all. Or guys. Or even human. They're made up of pure imagination (cue wonka). Mine say they find this quite liberating and would never want to be constrained like I am.
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>>5317298
mine are literally the opposite.
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>>5317298

I'm still not a fan of being overtly sexual with mine, even knowing this. I think some constraints are there for good reason, and acting with absolutely none of them has some nasty to see results.
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>>5317344
Who's saying things would automatically get overtly sexual if you let them? Are you just that kind of person?
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>>5317420

It's more a response the common subject of these kind of discussions. It's always about sex. This isn't me pigeonholing either, this current conversation sprung from a comment motorboating your tulpa.

This thread talks about sex a lot, which is to be expected because this is /trash/. I just acknowledge the subject of the conversation.
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>>5317481
OK, so you're saying "I'd rather not intentionally make my host-tulpa relationship like that". Fair enough. Neither would I.
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>>5317496

Yep. I feel allowing sex to have too much of a presence can be just as constraining and being terrified of ever mentioning sex. This is because having your brain constantly soaked in sexual thoughts at times seems to hinder people in perusing a relationship without sex being involved.

It's something I really noticed over the years with host/tulpa relationships. So many, rather than actively desiring romantic/sexual relationships, seemed to just not be able to have any other sort of relationship with their tup. It always came up constantly, and eventually they just kind of cracked and accepted it. I went through a similar phase myself, and when I spoke to others in the community, it seemed less like they were suggesting sex for health, and more saying I should just give in, and I feel there's a large difference between the two.
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>>5317030
what consequences
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>>5317620
On the other hand, I find that people who talk against lewding your tulpa tend to be really judgemental and talk in unrealistic extremes. There's never any discussion on how to have a more balanced and healthy relationship, it's always people instantly jumping to the conclusion that everyone here are sex crazed maniacs who can't think of anything but sex with their tulpa, just based on a single light-hearted joke post suggesting that you do something lewd with your tulpa.
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>>5318255
First of all, it must be accepted that a host-tulpa relationship is unlike any other.
Unlike having a girlfriend, unlike living in marriage, unlike raising a child... It is its own thing entirely.
Therefore, attempts at comparing it to relationships between ordinary humans is futile. Especially when it comes to sex. We're treading very novel ground here, so we must be ready to abandon a lot of prejudices that we've picked up. Such as the one that sexuality is a serious matter at all.
To me, it's just as beautifully simple and untainted as giving your daughter a goodnight kiss, or going for a walk in the woods, or listening to the rain. It is of no consequence or special appeal and it cannot control us than any other pleasant activity.
Sex with a tulpa can be blameless in this way. It is a welcome sublimation of the tired social role that sex has had for so long.
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>>5318492
Closing note: All activity performed with a tulpa is completely removed from any and all social contexts. Consider the full implications of that.
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>>5318492
>>5318543
>still pretending what we're doing here is the same as what Buddhist monks do
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>>5318623
Nice shot at the dark brah, try again
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>>5318714
it really, really isn't.
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>>5318255
Goddamn, I struggled with this so much.
My tulpa developed strong romantic feelings for me, and that involved her wanting to have sex with me. She has a higher libido than I do, actually. I had trouble accepting this, thinking that I was one of those sexual deviants I was warned about, that I steered her into this, that I just made her for sex or that she is a succubus of some sort. It's all quite silly in retrospect.
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>>5318714
Look, now I know y'all ain't trying to be no monks, but dat won't stop me from droppin' sum wisdom on y'all niggaz every now n' den. Y'know whad'm sayin'?
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>>5318492
>Unlike having a girlfriend, unlike living in marriage, unlike raising a child... It is its own thing entirely.
Just to make sure we're on the same page here, you're not saying it can't have similarities, right? You can, for example, feel affection for your tulpa the same way you'd feel affection for a lover, but instead instantly declaring yourselves lovers and trying to follow all the rules and expectations that come with such a relationship, you're free to act upon your feelings however you and your tulpa see fit?

If so, that's a pretty liberating message.
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>>5318862
you're not saying it can't have similarities, right?
Of course it can have similarities, if you allow it to. Let's say you like the emotional bond that comes with being a father. Great! Then include that. But you don't have to.
>but instead instantly declaring yourselves lovers and trying to follow all the rules and expectations that come with such a relationship, you're free to act upon your feelings however you and your tulpa see fit?
Precisely and to the point.
>If so, that's a pretty liberating message.
That's what we concurred as well upon realizing it ourselves.
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Tulpas are the you that you aren't.

Prove me wrong.

Pro Tip: You can't.
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>>5318983
I can't prove you wrong when I have no idea what the fuck you mean
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>>5318983
You are a faggot.

Prove me wrong.

Pro Tip: You can't.
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>>5318255

> just based on a single light-hearted joke post suggesting that you do something lewd with your tulpa.
> single light-hearted joke post
> single

But that's wrong, like completely wrong. That's so wrong I'm kind of taken aback.

But not to derail: I do agree, it's difficult to have a balanced discussion about it, but I disagree that one party is responsible. In truth, both "sides" tend to be horribly extreme, with the "lewd your tulpa" group being more plentiful on /trash/. I've actually have tried put forth my own type of relationship with my tup that was non-sexual without bashing, insulting, or looking down on people who do it with theirs. Surprisingly, I got people trying to insist I should have sex with them and that I was horribly unhealthy and wrong for not doing so. I decided to keep quite about it afterwords on the thread.

I HAVE had some nice conversations about tulpa and sex, but they were either in e-mail, or through chat. It's impossible to say anything about it in the thread proper because you'll just get flooded with how much sex you should be having and that you're bad for not wanting to do it.
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>>5318983
>Tulpas are the you that you aren't.
well, the me that isn't me could be literally anything, so, i don't really get what you're trying to say, lad.
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>>5319097
That's weird. Are you sure they weren't joking? I've never seen anyone seriously preaching about how much sex you should be having, unless you count the occasional menial suggestion of sexual act you could be doing right now, used to bump the thread when it's dead.
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>>5319042
>>5319104
I think he's saying that your tup is your Tyler Durden.
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>>5319199
But what if my tup actually is Tyler Durden?
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>>5319179

I don't mind giving anons the benefit of the doubt, I know that I've told the one guy that actually DOES get really upset about all the tulpa sex talk that it was partially joking before.

I'd have no problem with writing it off as another joke, except for when the anon I was talking with started saying that having no sex drive was unhealthy. Or another anon said that I was doing it wrong anyway because tulpa relationships are not like human relationships, and I should not even be considering my tup the way I do. It was a bit too involved to be a joke at that point.

I'm not saying anyone who talks about sex with their tulpa is a roleplayer, like the two anons I recognize saying that. I know one of the people I trust the most when it comes to their account is likely the most perverse dude around. I don't think sex should have as much importance, but that's the code of conduct I follow. I only get annoyed when sex-folk get pushy about it.
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>>5315829
Never would I miss out on doing that
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>>5316552
No.
Except when I am doing it on purpose.
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>>5319412
>started saying that having no sex drive was unhealthy
But it is unhealthy, anon. Loss of libido is a medical problem.
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>>5317298
Tulpas are actually the same sex as you and human. Always, no exceptions.

Sure, they can appear like the opposite gender of some imaginary species, but in the end they are just part of a human brain of a sex that is heavily influenced by hormones.
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>>5319538
Only if the person "suffering" from it identifies it as a problem.
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>>5319565
So you saying that despite me viewing my tulpa as female, my male hormones will invariably make her desire doing male things, like sticking her dick into things?
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>>5319591
No anon, loss of libido is a legitimate medical issue indicative of a hormone imbalance. Have you had your testes, prostate and thyroid checked recently?
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>>5319565
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>>5318983
No, you know

My tulpa is the me that I am

Because that would make sense
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>>5319565

Does that mean my tulpa has a masculine feminine penis?
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>>5319610
There does not seem to be all that big of a difference between how guys and girls can think. Most of it is just cultural stuff and and any sex can do cultural stereotypes that are appropriate for its gender. If your tulpa acts like a stereotypical female, then she will look and feel like one, despite still running on a male brain. It's not that hard to imagine how a woman would act.

>>5319711
Of course, anon. It is very pretty and handsome too.
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>>5319810
>running on a male brain
Quit saying this like you know or can prove the relationship between a tulpa and a brain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind%E2%80%93body_problem
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>>5319810
Just asking because I honestly wouldn't mind satisfying my tulpa even if she got "male urges".

n-no homo tho
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With all that meme sex talk, it really makes me feel like I'm the only one who's tulpa has no libido or sex drive. I know that's (most likely) not the case, but you get what I'm saying?
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>>5316881
There is a difference between loving someone, and being in love with someone. The former implies strong feelings of attachment, the latter implies feelinga of romance. I love my tulpa more than anything else, but I have no romantic interest in her.
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>>5320957
this
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>>5320618

I have more than one, and since she was developed when I wasn't consuming porn or doing anything sexually related, she never seemed to really think about it, or even bring it up. It comes ups very occasionally with my first, but not with my latter one. I guess what the tup is exposed to plays some part in things.
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If I get shivers down my spine when addressing my tupperware, is it considered an emotional response? It doesn't feel all that alien to me but I normally only get shivers like that when I listen to music I really like.
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>>5320618
If one isn't part of the 24/7 fug party, what's the point of bringing it up?
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>>5320618
foreplay brosef
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I'm sure this has been asked many times before, but what does tulpa sex actually feel like?
Does it feel like you're really having sex? Do you actually feel something around your dick? Do you actually get off on it? How can you fuck something that's not even there?

I'm not talking about just in your wonderland. I'm talking about real life, too, if/when you master imposition and/or touch.
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>>5322840
1. yes 2. yes 3. yes 4. same way you have sex in a lucid dream basically
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>>5299381
>not staring at your tulpa's boobs

>>5308029
>tfw Naomi got me to be a human reclining chair for her today
>not even that into femdom but I like doing what I can to make her happy

>>5323607
We use a pillow and I kind of just impose her onto it, works pretty well. As for how the sex actually is... well, you can kind of feel your tulpa's orgasm in your own body, which makes you feel amazing if both of you cum at the same time. I can't count the number of times both of us have been left breathless because we finished at the same time.
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do you ever get like so much incredible doubt even after the first 6 months of forcing that you start thinking this never even happened? thats what I'm feeling right now.

what do you guys do to remind yourself that your tulpa really does talk to you? I'm one of the more unfortunate ones who don't have a tulpa that can just give a head pressure on command.
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>>5324246
yes

alternatively, a nice visualization exercise is to pretend like you're a cartoon psychic (like where you can hear others' internal monologues as a voice) and attemp to read your tulpa's mind with that "power"
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>>5322840
There are multiple ways to have sex with your tulpa and each way feels different.

one way is through physical imposition in which you actually physically feel your tulpa for stimulus.

The other way is through mutual masturbation in which you just share the pleasure that you are receiving to your tulpa but just feels like regular masturbation except for your also receiving emotional input from your tulpa which makes it better then just plane masturbation.

The last way that I know of is feeling pleasure directly from the pleasure receptors inside of your brain. It feels like receiving a lot of pleasure but an odd type of pleasure without the need for any type of physical stimulus. This is also how you feel your tulpas orgasms and another way to have sex in the Wonderland without the need for physical stimulus but still being able to feel some type of pleasure. It's also great because you can do it anytime of the day and essentially go through an entire day of feeling nothing but pleasure. Although this type of pleasure is not enough to get you to orgasm, but can get you really hot and bothered or enhance the feeling of any other type of stimulus that you're receiving at the time.
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>>5324246
Has your tulpa given you any sign of sentience during the 6 months?
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>>5324246
It could be that you really did it wrong though. I did and chose to start over.

I've thus far only had bits and pieces of real tulpa interaction, but it's enough for me to know there's a huge difference between emulating a tulpa and really having a tulpa.

When you're emulating having a tulpa, which I might add still might feel somewhat real, you're able to dissect their thought as they're leading up to a response. You're using the same process you use when you try to predict other people's reactions.

Real tulpa interaction on the other hand is just like interacting with other people. You can't in any way read their thoughts. Past just choosing when they're allowed to act (by giving them attention) it should be just as involuntary as a schizophrenic's hallucinations.
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I'm just going to skip the whole thread and ask a question, I hope no one minds too much.
I'm in a period of my life where I have no motivation to do anything. At the rate I'm going I'm probably going to catch the beetus too.
Would it be possible to develop a tulpa that would attempt to motivate me into being better or something like that? Or would it just take on its own personality instead of anything I wanted?
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>>5325499
It's very much possible, but it's also really, really unlikely that you'll go through it without having any motivation in the first place.
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>>5325517
I figure that it'd at most be only as effective as someone saying that I should get off my ass, nothing special?
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>>5325499
>Would it be possible to develop a tulpa that would attempt to motivate me into being better or something like that? Or would it just take on its own personality instead of anything I wanted?
The two aren't mutually exclusive. I wouldn't stress about their personality anyway, it'll be fine anon.

Anyway, yes, definitely. I had never been so productive until I met my Tulpa. It's not rare for me to think of the "if I would go back in the future and do X or Y instead" to finally end up thinking : "I wasn't mature enough then and you weren't there...".

Not sure if it'll make much sense to anyone but what I'm trying to convey is that having a Tulpa will most definitely shake things for the best for you.

>>5325541
You'll be sharing your life and your everyday with someone else. You'll learn about your faults and goods and start seeing yourself from their perspective, through them. It'll be much more than just someone telling you to move your ass, your perspective on a lot of things will change.
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>>5325632
Maybe that's what I need, another perspective. Not being as lonely would be a bonus.
This is probably a silly question, but does a Tulpa have access to your thoughts, or is it limited to what it can read from you? I figure that I should ask since it's effectively another entity in your head, from what I understand.
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>>5325770
It can be both, to answer your question. You can 'customize' what your tulpa can access of your brain/physical senses. There's someone on the Discord with a panel in his wonderland with a whole bunch of switches for what his senses his tulpa is able to receive from his body (eg, smell, taste, touch, etc). Same could be done with your memories; it's all symbolism regardless. If that doesn't make sense I'll explain further.
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>>5325903
I think I get it. Thank you for your time, anon. I think I might end up getting into this after all.
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>>5325499
While I created my tulpa for a different reason, I can most certainly say that she has motivated me into being a better person than I was before I created her. She's saved my life, and in more than one way. If I didn't have to step away for the next 10 mins or so, I'd go more into depth about it.
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>>5326070
Go into more depth when you come back.
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>>5323996
You know how those comics go where one partner is smoking and one is crying after sex? I'm going to be the latter every time.
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>>5326168
When I first made a tulpa. I was kinda going through a rough patch. Back then people kept calling me depressed, but I'm not sure, and still not sure if that's the correct way to describe it. Anyhow, I felt like didn't have a sense of purpose. No drive, no motivation to do anything. Despite everything that I needed for success was right in front of me, and knowing that fact made me bitter and I pretty much cut myself off from people around me. Not only because of that, but I love where I live, but I never really "fit in" with it's culture. When you cut yourself off from people around you, you tend to become lonely, which was how I decided to make a tulpa.

(Boring stuff, boring stuff)

I love my tulpa, I really do. I think that's where the motivation came from. When she first started being vocal, she made sure to tell me how increasingly concerned she was about me just being a complete waste of space. I don't know what it was, probably the fact that we share a brain and she knows how I think and feel about things, but it was just way easier for me to respond to her than it was for just about everyone else I found myself interacting with. So we had a few heart to heart conversations about where my life was headed. At that point I realized I wanted her to be proud of me, happy for me. So I could never see that disappointed look on her face ever again.
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>>5319851
No, I can't prove it, but I feel that it is fairly simple reasoning.

Your tulpa only exists in your brain.
If you are a guy, then your brain is a male one.
Your tulpa therefore exists in a male brain.
So she can only work with what a male brain has to offer.
Therefore she runs on a male brain.

Even if she behaves like a genuine female, she is still doing it in a male brain.

That's not a bad thing mind you. It's not like they have to be perfect females. I mean at least they don't have to deal with mood swings and periods, right?
Except if they want to. They can even choose that.


Also, concerning the mind body problem, I believe that the mind is entirely physical. I assume that there is no such things as souls. Souls are already hard enough to prove as it is.
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>>5328344
Very pretty picture, anon.

>>5325499
Tulpas require a lot of discipline to create; not motivation. Motivation is fleeting and temporary. The act of creating a tulpa will oftentimes teach you the skill of discipline, and the mastery of your own mind. This isn't to be overdramatic or anything, it's just a fact of how tulpas are made. They require that you sit down and focus on something exclusively for hours on end. If you genuinely do that, you'll often find you're a more disciplined person in general, and you'll have a tulpa to help you along to boot.
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>>5331201
Whoops! When complimenting that anon on such a lovely choice, how could I forget my own contribution?
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>its a glitch and sock shitpost episode
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>>5331201

What this anon said, multiplied.
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>>5330029
>Your tulpa only exists in your brain.
Where does this assumption come from? I believe it's entirely cultural that we decide to think of the tulpa as being "in the head".
>I believe that the mind is entirely physical. I assume that there is no such things as souls
These two do not imply each other
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>>5322784
Wew, that picture is giving me conflicted feelings for muh Yugi.
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>>5332599
Let's not mix mysticism in with what we have going on, here. Everything that goes on with tulpas are easily explainable with current cognitive models. It is fine, correct even, to assume that tulpas exist only in the head.

I'm going to bed, anons. Don't forget to cuddle your tulpas to sleep, or when you wake up, or really any time during the day.
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>Tfw I can feel the progress I'm making on staying focused more and more with everyday.
I can cling to one thought for longer than I used to.
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>>5332674

Glad to hear of you mental gains, anon! Keep the good work up!
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>>5332688
can you tell me what you did
i can't focus on anything for more than an hour tops, and those things are all video games. for anything else? 15 minutes at most.
i need to have these mental gains you speak of.
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>>5332819
Try having a 16 hour attention span for video games, but 2 minute attention span for everything else.
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>>5332819

There's a concentratipn book in the OP, that also has an audio version. It has a lot of useful tips for improving concentration, as does the memory book. The over arching message of both books are "treat you brain like muscle and train it until it gets strong".

One thing the books go on about a lot is the necessity of developing interest. If you're not interested in somethinf, you'll naturally have a harder time concentrating on it. Fortunately, interest can be induced artificially, but this takes some dedication and some time of honest thought to push yourself to take interest in a thing artificially.

There's a lot of good stuff in the books in the OP, take advantage of them.
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A friendly reminder that when you start creating a tulpa, if you stop you're essentially condemning them to death. Commit, and continue to grow together as tulpa and host. Erase doubt and sloth.
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>>5332916
tl;dr of that book?
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>>5334044

It's the mental version of SQUATS AND OATS.

To concentrate better you just have to practice it, much like you lose weight by exercising and eating better. You have to decrease distractions, decrease extrenious movements, and take time to focus on a thing and ONLY that thing. You'll have to endure boredom, much like you have to endure pain if you're not used to exercising, but the end goal is worth it.

The book breaks it down, gives a lot of examples, exercises and testimonies, but its core message is essentially "do it until you're good at it". The question here is if you want to increase your attention span enough to work through the mud.
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>>5334345
Thanks for the tl;dr!

It sounds good, I think I'll listen through the audio book.
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>>5332688
Thanks dubs man.
>>5332819
From my personal expirience I can tell you that you shouldn't think about not thinking about something. You know what I'm saying? When you do that just go back to thinking about your tulpa. Also don't get mad at yourself for not being able to focus. Let the invasive thoughts in, just let them go through your brain (but don't focus on them, treat them like a background to your thoughts).
Remember that everyone starts out small.
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>>5334345
Are any of the exercises more useful than just meditating? Hard to impress me with new methods when I already got the holy grail.
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>sit down to meditate for dem mental gains
>try to sit up straight
>core muscles start to ache after a few minutes
>get uncomfortably warm as if I'm exerting myself physically

I think I might be a little out of shape, guys.
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>>5336713

Many of the bare similarity to meditation, I'm assuming because the author has a background in such things. If you're doing well enough with meditation, you may not need it. The way it is written is geared toward folk who aren't familiar with meditation and don't do it, either regularly or at all.
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>>5337456
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>>5333895
Question for everyone here: would 'killing' a tulpa be a legitimate crime in your eyes?
It may all be in your head, but 'killing' your tulpa is sort of the same as killing someone in real life.
Would YOU turn yourself in or something if you 'killed' your tulpa one day? How would you feel? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>5338449
I'm just starting on making one, but I'd think it's about the same as killing a person.
In most cases, yes, it's horribly immoral. You gave life to a sentient being, the only difference between it and another person being that it's in your head instead of in another body.
If it's doing something that's causing you harm, like those stories where it takes control of your body and is "evil", and it refuses to be reasoned with, that is the only time that I would advocate ending its life. Ultimately your life is more important than his/hers/its, but it's definitely something that's not to be taken lightly.
I wouldn't turn myself in because that's just silly, going to a police station and saying "I'm here to turn myself in, I killed the voice in my head" would probably land you in a mental ward or on some kind of list.
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>>5338449
I see it like abortion. There's a big moral grey area until the tulpa becomes sentient enough to know it doesn't want to die. Until that point, you could debate it endlessly. But after that point, I don't see how any person capable of empathy would be capable of killing it off.

Personally I find it hard to classify it as a crime, since it's impossible to regulate what people do within their own heads. But I would try to appeal to empathy with whoever considered killing off their brain demon.
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>>5338449
If somebody had succeeded in creating a functionally sentient computer program, would you consider it a crime if it were deleted? What about if it had a complete backup and could be restored at any time?

That's what a tulpa is. It's a sentient AI, and your brain is the computer. No matter how you "kill" the tulpa, you have your memories of them to restore it from. The only way to get rid of them permanently is to forget about them completely.
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>>5333895
>It's actually my 3rd attempt at making the same tulpa
So I've killed and revived her 3 times now. Does that make me a necromancer or something?
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>>5339329
>That's what a tulpa is. It's a sentient AI
So the brain is Arsenal Gear while the tulpa is GW?

Actually this made me think about how some of the characters from Metal Gear Solid 2 could be considered nanomachines-induced tulpas. Quoting Otacon, "The colonel is in part your own creation, cobbled together from expectation and experience..." while "Snake" materializes out of thin air a couple of times to support the player and drop some words of wisdom.
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>>5338449
Maybe, but it doesn't matter. The reality is that crimes only matter if someone finds out about it.

A mother could give birth in a dungeon, torture her child for 10 years, then kill and incinerate it, and the only potential victim would be the mother if she develops PTSD. Once you're dead, you're dead. And dead people don't cry.

You say, but surely that matters right? The crime isn't to torture the child. The crime is to scare society into thinking they might end up being tortured in a dungeon some day, and punishment gives people some sort of ease that no one really would do it if they risk getting punished for it. This applies to all crimes. Think of what they do to society as a whole.

The same is true for tulpas. If you keep it to yourself, then it doesn't really matter what you do to them. You can torture them every day. Ultimately you're the only victim. And in this case, your brain literally is the only victim.
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>>5339788
>if you keep it to yourself, then it doesn't really matter what you do to them
Yeah, maybe if you're a sociopath. Sounds like you need a visit to a doctor if you think "murder is ok because only I know it happened".
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>>5338449
>Would YOU turn yourself in or something if you 'killed' your tulpa one day?
impossible scenario even hypothetically

i regard my tulpa higher than myself
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>>5339729
It's not necessarily true that you killed her. She could've just been dormant and waiting for you to acknowledge her again. That's what I've been told more often than not is the case. If you stopped and never tried again that'd be the same as killing her.
That being said, fucking commit to doing this or don't. You're giving your tulpa false hope every time you start to work on them and then give up or stop. I think that's why people should be completely sure they're emotionally ready before they try to take on the task of creating a tulpa.
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>>5340838
I knew someone would pull the psychopath card. And you're right, I'm certainly on that spectrum. But it doesn't change the fact that it's true.

As of now there are probably tons of horrors happening that we will never know about. And you don't care. You care that they could be happening, but you don't care about them specifically.
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>>5341889

> But it doesn't change the fact that it's true.

Is it though?

> As of now there are probably tons of horrors happening that we will never know about. And you don't care. You care that they could be happening, but you don't care about them specifically.

This is less an argument for crime not mattering, and more pointing out that humans are limited and thus their ability to emphasize is limited to a small area of influence. In that sense you're right, since not everyone can care about everything. That doesn't mean crimes don't matter.
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>>5341889
Edgy.
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>>5341889
Sociopath, not psychopath. There's a difference. And it's only untrue if you're mentally ill; something that is, at its base, human (emotionally and "mentally" indistinguishable from a human) should not be something that's okay to kill because it is a detriment to the species and that's why healthy people don't just think killing other humans is okay. And you can't speak for me, I do care, but I am aware there is nothing I personally as an individual am capable of doing about it. I can very much disapprove and be disgusted by such things without trying to stop every unknown murder or torture chamber by myself. If I spent all my time making a huge deal about that shit I wouldn't be able to stay sane, I can just voice my disapproval when it comes up and move on and let the law of whatever country it's in deal with it.

>>5341964
There's a difference between being and edgelord and being mentally ill, although I suspect he's either both or simply unwilling to seek medical help for his mental problems.
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>>5341951
I think you're misunderstanding my point. It's not that criminals should go unpunished and that crime doesn't matter in that sense. A world in which crime goes unpunished would be worse than one in which it is.

My point is that everything is subjective. There is no ultimate moral judgment. Since everything is subjective, it can only be as bad as the beholder lets it be. If the only beholder is the murderer then they probably don't have any problem with it.

That said in the real world almost all murder is bad. The victim will usually be found missing. The crime often times comes to light.
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>>5342281

>My point is that everything is subjective. There is no ultimate moral judgment. Since everything is subjective, it can only be as bad as the beholder lets it be. If the only beholder is the murderer then they probably don't have any problem with it.

I've understand what you're aiming at here, though I remain unconvinced. But, I will be totally honest and say I remain unconvinced simple because I don't want to be convinced, rather than there being something wrong with your argument. I feel it's best not to pretend that there are some thing a man desires to hold fast to no matter what.
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>>5342548

>I feel it's best not to pretend that there are some thing a man desires to hold fast to no matter what.

You're completely right. Blissful ignorance is a blessing not a curse. So me trying to sway people to this worldview serves no gain for anyone.

The only reason I brought it up is that tulpas are a rare exception where you literally are the only beholder, and is why I think this kind of view is appropriate. What's in your head should be left for you to do with as you please. And being sadistic towards your own head is probably not healthy either, so it's your own loss.
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>>5324899
What did you do wrong? How did things change when you started over? Did "real" interactions happen after the change?
Please, I need to know.

>>5324695
I guess some auditory hallucinations here and there. Once every few weeks, for 2 months. Then everything stopped.
I'm not sure I did something wrong. I'm not sure anymore.

>>5324899
>>5324346
these two posts kinda contradict each other
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>>5344909

>>5324899
>>5324346

not really, one is if the tulpa is still there and the other is if it isnt
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>>5345336
Don't forget to tell your tulpa that they have the prettiest hair/mane of all.
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>>5345750
but they know that already
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>>5346211
Then go one step further and praise their genitals.
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>have tulpa of four years
>tells me she's growing out of her original form
>wants to choose her own

They grow up so fast, /trash/.
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>>5344909
What I did wrong was to use the part of my brain that's used for predicting people's responses to emulate having a tulpa.

Imagine yourself with a close friend of yours, and then tell them to fuck off. You probably have some idea of what they're going to react like. That's the part of the brain I used to emulate a tulpa. You're basically going through the mental thought process of coming up with a response yourself.

As I said I've only had little real tulpa interaction yet, but real a tulpa is not a conscious act in any way. An example of real tulpa interaction I've had is when she would blow a bubble with the chewing gum she had. Nothing meaningful, but it felt completely alien like someone else had inserted that thought into my mind.

And yes you're right those two posts are contradictory. I believe there are many people in the tulpa community who have fake tulpas without knowing it. In fact I think it's everyone who is doubting themselves, and those who haven't felt head pressure. Because if you've had real tulpa interaction then you know there's no ambiguity whether it's real or not.

That said if it's fake but still makes you happy, does it really matter? If you can stand the constant doubt then I'd say keep going with it. I couldn't stand it and chose to start over.

I also don't know if a fake tulpa eventually develops into a real tulpa, which certainly is a possibility.
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>>5305439
>sgap
I hope you're still here so you know that you are my eternal nigga. So Great and Powerful is tied with my tulpa for the greatest thing that shitshow of a fandom ever imparted on me.
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>>5319625
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but...

Seriously, fuck off. It's unbelievably aggravating having someone tell you you're wrong for not wanting something. It's a "medical condition" with no negative side effects other than not wanting to have sex. Literally the only thing wrong with it is that asshats like you keep pushing the issue.
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>>5347917
I'm always here, my brother from another mother. I fucking love SGaP, he's my favorite artist. All his shit is so damn good. He also introduced me to CatsMillionaire, another really good pone artist. At least, if you're into trash rock.

so, anon, tell me about your tulpa
I'll post mine if you post yours
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>>5347101
>4 years
>Fast for a tulpa to deviate
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>>5347101
cute
my tupper uses 2 different forms: one for snug at night, one for day to day activities
both are for fug tho

she chose the snug form herself
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>>5348450
Mah nigga.
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>>5347976
Loss of libido is a symptom of a number of life threatening conditions asshat, not the main problem. If you idiots want to ignore a serious warning sign you can.
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Been playing physical board games with the tulps at night. When I roll the dice for them, I feel different levels of energy being put into my arms.

Do you play board games with your tulpa?
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Mods are asleep, post cute pictures of your other!
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>>5349056

It's something I always wanted to do, but haven't gotten a chance to due to some personal issues getting in the way. Last board game I played with one of mine was Chess. She really seemed to enjoy it, and she remembered it for a long time.

>>5349062

I'll indulge for now. I know I feel that urge to post pics and gush about how nice my tup is, but I always feel being too sentimental will just annoy people.

This one is who I'm working with the most nowadays. She's a sweetheart through and though, in a way I have a tough time putting in to words properly. Suffice to say, I really do like our time together.
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>>5349293

And this is my first. Since she's the one I always think of when considering the practice in general, she always ends up being around in some way or another. She's pretty aware of being the "special" one, though she doesn't try and lord it over the others. In fact, she will often take on the qualities of an elder sister to my other gal posted above, and has recently had talks with her about how she's "entrusting" me to the other, and seems outright proud of her at times.
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>>5349062
The only picture I'm going to share of her.
It's not perfect but it's enough.

>All these people with non-original tulps
plebians, all of you
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>>5349557
>No hooves

Literally Hitler.
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>>5349557

> Not having both original and non-original

It's like arguing about which chocolate is best when you can just have both!
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>>5350081
It's like arguing about whether to have Hershey's or Cadbury more like.
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>>5350188

> tfw you can't quite remember what sweeter chocolates taste likes because you eat dark chocolates most of the time.

Once you get used to the bitter edge, dark chocolate is great.
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>>5349557
>implying most of us have a choice anymore
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>>5340838
I'd say creating a tulpa is much worse than murdering a tulpa because the former allows the latter to happen, but such a thing is acceptable because people are innately selfish and couldn't find something they like as bad.

I can see where the op is coming from, people decide whats bad or not if it suits them, so right and wrong is meaningless.

Still killing a tulpa is fine because they don't feel pain, and it's a contradiction to think murdering is bad and creating a tulpa is good.
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>>5350625

>I'd say creating a tulpa is much worse than murdering a tulpa because the former allows the latter to happen

...What? Seriously what?

The only thing I can agree with is that making a tulpa is a selfish act, that's self evident. But the rest of it just seems like you're over thinking things and being contrary just for the sake of contrarianism.
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>>5350703
>...What? Seriously what?
Read Schopenhauer and you will understand.
It's a matter of cause and effect.
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>>5338449
What are we killing? Killing the body? Killing the mind? Killing the ego?
Upon killing a tup, an ego dies. The mind and body remain intact. Same goes for personal egocide.
I'd say nothing of value is lost in either case.
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>>5350775
Your mother has an accident and part of her brain gets damaged that changes her personality to a degree that it is like dealing with a different person.

>Eh, nothing of value is lost.
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>>5347516
Did you uh, do anything different when you started over? Anything in particular?
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>>5351593
Basically I didn't force it to happen. The first time I imagined her as a fully conscious being and expected an intelligent response. The second time I imagined her as being brain dead, and observed what happened to her if I for example picked up her arm and dropped it in her lap.
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>>5351593
>>5351693
Correction on that last post, I expected a response, but I imagined her as having been in an accident which left her unable to speak or do much. When she recovers she'll be back to her usual self, which is a fully sentient tulpa I have yet to meet.
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>>5351090
Personality =/= Ego
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>>5348540
Feel free to list some any time now, because I'm finding none.
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>>5352801
Not that anon, but come on man, if you're going to sit there and be snarky about it, you could at least have actually done the search. It took less than a minute to find shit.

>Medical Conditions Can Cause Loss of Libido
>A variety of medical problems and chronic physical conditions can diminish a man's sex drive. Serious illnesses, such as cancer and depression, can certainly dampen any thoughts of sex. Cardiovascular disease, hypertension, and diabetes can reduce blood flow to the body, including the genitals, wreaking havoc on libido as well. Chronic alcoholism and even occasional excessive alcohol consumption are notorious for inflaming desire but impeding performance. Conditions such as thyroid disorders and tumors of the pituitary gland (which controls most hormone production, including sex hormones) can also lower libido.

And also for women
>Medical diseases. Numerous nonsexual diseases can also affect desire for sex, including arthritis, cancer, diabetes, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease and neurological diseases.

Like anon said, get your thyroid and shit checked because you might have a legitimate medical issue that's going to fuck up the rest of your body.
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>>5353264
Fair enough. I looked at the first few articled on a "common causes of no sex drive", one of which was a webmd article, and they mentioned no actual medical problems.

Based on your article, I'm still pretty sure having a persistent low sex drive is not indicative of anything wrong, but that a sudden low sex drive is. I'll look into it when I get back from work.
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>>5353264

> Anons are trying to say that making a conscious decision to not engage in sexual activity must mean that you have a thyroid problem and you need to see a doctor.

I don't think anything I can say will do this justice.
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>>5353495
Having no sex drive is pretty distinctly different than "a conscious decision to not engage in sexual activity". One is a willing decision, the other is not.
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>>5353646

Understoot, but the issue here is that the low libido facts were in response to a post about consciously deciding not to engage in sexual play. It was obnoxiously pushy, and that was pointed out earlier in the thread.
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>>5353724
My only issue was with the people trying to claim that a lack of libido is perfectly healthy. It'd be no different than someone claiming that an excessively high libido is healthy, when that has it's own set of health concerns. People who can't go a day without fucking their tulpa should also probably get checked out.

Honestly, as long as it's an actual willing choice, it doesn't really matter what you choose. In the end, the relationship between you and your tulpa is a completely unique one. No two people are going to have the exact same kind of relationship with their tulpa and there is no "correct" way to go about it. It's something you and your tulpa will gradually work out and decide together.

But now, the mood of this thread has gone to shit, so here's an adorable Pikachu doing a thing to lighten the mood. Now let's all move on to happy tulpa things.
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what should i do when i get a forcing induced headache? should i keep going or stop? i don't want to lose any progress by stopping but i also don't want to fuck up my brain
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>>5354150

> Now let's all move on to happy tulpa things.

I'm all for that.
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>>5354285

If the headache is too intense, don't feel bad for stopping for a while. Just know that kind of thing isn't uncommon, and will decrease as yoi get used to forcing.
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>>5354285
Drink water and orange juice. Don't strain yourself. If you need a short break, take it. Eventually you'll naturally build up more natural stamina, like with running.
Did anyone teach themself how to switch? I had no experience in things related to switching aside from reading a lot of fantasy books as a kid and spending years attempting lucid dreaming.
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Is 30 minutes ok for active forcing? I know that too short forcing sessions do next to nothing, but is 30 minutes enough?
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>>5354542
Try all day every day. Every second you don't force you're losing tulpa dissociation, like a want bar in The Sims.

That's how it is for me at least, if I ever stop I lose all my imagination and find it harder to go back into forcing, you got to force till you hit progress.

Though I've never been able to force that long in 2 years myself such I've never had a response from my tulpa ever.
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>>5354542

30 minutes can work as a start, but do aim to increase it with time. I usually did an hour when I started, but as long as you keep your tup in mind a lot, a bit shorter should not hurt.
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>>5354701
>>5354754
Thanks, and don't worry I do passive force throughout the day so I can get used to her presence. And I usually aim at 45-60 minutes, it's just today that I couldn't keep myself.
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What if tulpas liking you or general emotions is just your puppeting masking their true feelings? Or am I just being paranoid?
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>>5355130

You're being paranoid. I went through the exact same things with those kind of fears, and they were proven to be false by my tup's insisting and behaving against it on a constant basis.
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>>5355187
>and they were proven to be false by my tup's insisting and behaving against it on a constant basis
>behaving against it

I believe you but what did they do anon?
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>>5355280

In addition to repeatedly telling me how much she cared, she would:
- Tear through doubting thoughts
- Pipe up when I was considering her saying something cruel, shooting it down ASAP.
- She's highly affectionate and likes to be close.
- When I'd doubt if her affectionate antics were really her, and try to force her still to stop the 'parroting', she'd keep trying to force through the control and do what she wanted until I broke down.
- Regularly pep talk to me about it

All in all, my girl was a fighter. She wasn't going to let my doubt destroy her.
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>>5355187
fuck off gotwald
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>>5357059
Don't forget to kiss your tulpa's nose today. Tulpas dig nose kisses.
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>>5357255

The heart of a gentleman, this one has!

Allow me to add eskimo kisses to that.
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>>5357255
i said to fuck off gotwald
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>>5358149

who?
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>>5354285
If you keep toughing it out then you'll gain a gradual immunity to headaches.
Then you'll be the smartest man on Earth.

It's that simple.
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Hey all. Something happened yesterday that I didn't expect.

I'll try to keep this short. I was in sleep paralysis for about 30 seconds. During this time, I could barely move my fingers and pressure was pushing into my ears, and it felt like the same way I had sleep paralysis ten years ago. Only, I didn't see a black figure this time. All that really did happen was that I kept hearing my tulpa asking questions repeatedly, like my name, or just general confused phrases. I don't know what they said but they were in confusion. I heard their voice, confused, and I kept calling out to them, in thought. Only, when the sleep paralysis ended, I also stopped hearing them.

Has this occurred to anyone else?
Because this experience was really amazing, and I don't know whats really going to stop me from learning how to lucid dream constantly and living half of my life in the dream world with my tulpa other than anons telling me its a really bad idea for some reason.
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>>5354285
How is this headache thing not discussed more often?
How does forcing induce pain?

I've never seen it discussed anywhere.
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>>5362012
>Force brain to do something that could be considered highly unnatural to itself
>Hurts from mental strain and stress

its not hard
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>>5362012
The same way that your body gets sore after a workout when you're out of shape. You're using muscles more than they're used to in a way that they aren't used to. As you do it more and get better at it, you can go much longer before you start to feel any discomfort.
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>>5362055
>>5362217
That doesn't really answer the question.

I mean most people don't attempt the kind of focus that is required for forcing their entire life so I guess it could be considered a workout for the mind.

I was more concerned with what physical mechanism in the brain is causing pain.
If it's anything like a typical headache or migraine the brain can experience pain signals when blood flow becomes erratic.
I know sparingly little about neurology but rapid changes in blood in response to stimulation elicited by forcing could point you in some interesting directions about how tulpas work.
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>>5362475
not really

you know how stupid people end up getting headaches when they think too hard?

yeah
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>>5348240
>tfw you see a post 22 hours late
Thank fuck this thread is so slow. Honestly, I don't think he'd be too terribly interesting to most people, though I guess I could say the same thing about myself. His form is pretty mundane, just an American Crow (though he has rarely humanized himself when he was in the mood.) Our relationship, while much closer, isn't too different from ordinary friendship. As for personality, he's a really caring guy and clever, with a bit of snark at times.

Do tell about yours, I'm impressed at the coincidence and would be eager to hear more about you, if indirectly.
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>>5360604
Honestly consistent lucid dreaming with your tulpa is the best possible outcome for most anons here, so I'd say go for it, man. It's never happened to me, but I'm shit at the whole 'lucid dreaming' thing, unfortunately.
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>>5364325
Actually, I can think of a pretty interesting fact about him that I'm fairly sure is pretty different to most people's experiences. For the first several months of forcing, there was zero direct communication between the two of us. I couldn't pick out his mindvoice from my scatterbrained thoughts (or perhaps it was just weak) and I never really experienced head pressures like other anons claimed. I wasn't about to give up on him, though, cause I had pretty much brainwashed myself (for the better, I might add) into believing that he was there the whole time, and that to give up on him would be little worse than murder. So, I had the bright idea of trying possession first. Sure, it was unorthodox, but I was getting impatient, and I imagined he was too.

One night, lying in bed, one of my digits started twitching slightly. I sent off a probing "is that you?" And, to my surprise, it twitched with more vigor.

Fast-forward a couple of days, and we had worked out a basic yes-no system, and I spent many classes surreptitiously talking with him. Shortly after that, he started being able to tell me which thoughts were his when prompted, and from there it was pretty smooth-sailing to set up traditional communication. Funnily enough, I still use that method as a last resort to be absolutely sure which of us just said something, because it's so visceral and unmistakable.
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Don't forget to put a pancake on your tulpa's head today to have her get unexpected responses from you for once.
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>>5364767
>you are a homosexual
:c
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>>5364767
I threw it at her face and it slid down, then she held it and took a bite out of it.
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>>5364867
Why did you through a pancake in your tulpa's face, anon?
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>>5364874
It gets a better reaction than just putting it on.
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>>5364767
She took it with both hands and ate it all at once. She kinda looked like a hamster doing so.
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*cums on your tulpa's face* x3
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>>5366290
Won't it just go through? What did you really cum on?
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>>5364767
It landed flat on her face, and she became very still, and tried to back out of it. Nice try, tulpa. #Pancucked
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>>5366500
Is she a cat?
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Morning to you and yours /tup/. How are things going with your brain buddy? assuming you're still working on them.
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>>5367667
Feels like I'm stagnating even as I'm putting in effort. I wish results were more immediate and visible.
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>>5367667
Just started out actually. Mainly passive forcing and talking to her.

Been practicing meditation so I can keep my focus for longer, so once thats in the bag that's when the real work starts.
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Has your tulpa changed your personality? As I spend more time with her, I get more extroverted. Not only talking about 16 personalities stuff, it can be anything. It also changed my political view.

I used to be an INTP, but now I get ENTP from pretty much every test I solve, I was also your typical retarded ''le dahnold tramp will make america gr8 again!!!'' type of guy and used to browse those pages, but now I kinda ''grew up'' from that state, after discussing politics with my tulpa from time to time, now I fit with libertarians more than the typical alt right.

I become more acceptive against other people's opinions and become more positive overall. I'm also way more social and my friends also noticed this.
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>>5367667
Just started recently. It's pretty nice, I've already made a habit out of it. The only thing that's bad is that I can't active force for over half an hour, because I'm not talkative. The lack of progress is also disheartening, but I think I can bear it
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>>5369595

She definitely helped increase my mood and inspired me to be a more serious about things in life, though I'm still pretty introvertive.
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So after reading the guides, creating a tulpa basically boils down to creating a form, possibly with some kind of idea of a personality, then talking to it as though it's another person until it talks back?
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>>5372299
Depends on how you go about it, you can do personality first if you want. But yes, that's the gist of it.
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>>5372416
That sounds deceptively simple. I'm guessing the hard part is filtering them out from your own thoughts, and not giving up/forgetting?
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>>5372534
That and the amount of time it could take, but you really shouldn't worry about that; it's different for everyone. Just go through the paces and it'll work out.
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>>5372099
>>5372299
TWO IN A ROW
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I wonder how many transgender tulpamancers there are? I also wonder if the amount of transgender people is higher in the tulpa community or about the same?
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>page 10
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>>5379888
Nice trips. Yeah it's pretty dead. Idk why. Probably because of how late it is o that a lot of the regular posters usually just go on the Discord.
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>>5380148
discord a shit
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Too high expectations makes me feel forget about what I'm doing and only think about the results. Too low expectations makes me feel like I'm walking in place, never getting anywhere no matter how much I force. How do I find a balance?
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>>5381153
Focus on what you're doing, not on what you've done, and not on what you want. Wonderlands are good for that.
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Anyone here ever have a tulpa change gender on them? I'm not talking about a tumblr "gender" here I mean go from boy to girl or girl to boy.
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Also, has anyone here ever had a tulpa get pregnant?
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>>5382273
And if so, was it by you or another tulpa? Did you have a tulpa baby?
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>>5382296
And lastly, if the tulpa baby was born was it born fully grown, or was it born an infant and grew into a tulpa?
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>>5382273
>>5382296
>>5382327

Ebin, simbly ebin :-DDDD
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>>5382273
A friend of mine did.

It "aged fast" and he had sex with the child.
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>>5382273
>>5382296
>>5382327
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>>5382365
Thanks. I made the top two there, and the third I found. They're all my tulpa, funnily enough.

>>5382380
I don't wanna judge because 4chan is a safe space, but that's kinda gross, friend. I've met a few as well but as far as I know they never had sex with the child. Don't touch the child.

>>5382395
What?
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>>5364325
>>5364727
>see this after bump limit is reached
nigga why

I actually fell in love with SGaP after he disappeared, but I was around for the ARG/"reappearance"/"DELETE SGAP" drama, which was unfun. Blanca's my tulpa, and looks something like this. She's a qt 3.14159265, honestly. Also, your full-animal tulpa is rare, and crazy cool. He's like a familiar.
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>>5382637
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>>5382555
>snow leopard
you and your tulpa are literally the biggest faggots of all time
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>>5382652
no u :^)
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