/tup/ - Tulpa General >What are tulpas? A tulpa is an en

Being a pony tulpa is acceptable.

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Xth for human tups
Remember to hug daily

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>>3625146
>A FUCKING 8
>YOUNG STEVE BUSCEMI

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Today I was spacing out while forcing and a woman's voice spoke to me. I think it was my tulpa.

>>3625390
It was your mom telling you to get out of the basement.

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>>3625609

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>>3625767

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>>3625362
Anybody can be ugly from a certain angle. Except ur mum. She's ugly from all angles.

Any good tulpa sex rooms on irc? Or any really slutty tulpas I can hit up for a fuck?

>>3625390
It very well could be. Nurture the voice. Respond. In your head, not out loud...

>>3626706
You're disgusting.

>>3626706
#lew_creatures on tulpa.im if you're a furry fuck

>>3626885
*#lewd_creatures

>>3626840
I just want to fuck peoples' tulpas. #tulpa-forum is dead and so are all the old sex rooms.

>>3626885
>>3626912
Assuming it's mostly ponies?

>>3626956
>mostly ponies
Sharks, dragons, tigers, horses, you name it.

>>3627020
I'll keep it mind.

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Is it safe to create a tulpa that you'll have always be naked?

>>3627190
Yeah. Enforce that you want it to stay naked a lot while you're forming it and forcing.

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>>3626706
Tulpas are not for lewds
>>3627190
As long as you don't do the lewds

>>3627831
Not interested in that, I just think naked girls are cute.

I started trying again for the first time in a couple of years about and a week and a half ago. I spend around 20-30 minutes actively forcing everyday.

I also think about my tulpa throughout the day and talk with her about various things.

Over the the past few days I've had some head pressure and I usually don't get headaches very often.

Is this normal?

>>3629149
yes, 99% of tulpa makers get head pressure.

>>3629411
We still don't know why, either

>>3629461
My armchair guess would be because parts of the brain that don't normally require that much oxygen need more and so the blood vessels have to expand. I mean you're basically having two minds in one, of course it's gonna need more energy.

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How do I create a tulpa?

Dont just link me a guide, please tell me

>>3629915
You just have to believe in yourself

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>>3627831
Fuckoff with this stupid saying avatarfag, you and every other host know they originally created their tulpa for dirty things

>>3630124
I would like a serious reply

I've read kiadahjs whole guide and I still dont understand

>>3630198
>decide if you want a tulpa
>double check your decision
>think of a form for it, you may not chose one if you want to
>choose if you want to begin with visualization and personality

Visualization is the tup's form and looks and how well can your brain see it's details
Personality is an optional step that attempts to direct the tup's personality to a set list of traits.
If you don't want to define a personality, skip to form visualization

If you picked up a form:
>imagine form
>if you can draw, draw it somewhere
>meditate and build the form in your mind, from naked to clothing if you feel like it
>start with few details and form the overall looks
>do a little pause for personality if you feel like it
>give definition to body: muscles, clothing, hair(skin hair, not just head) etc
>hard mode for 3D tups: detail the face
>finish personality, tup may or may not be sentient
>narration

>if you didn't pick up a form
>get a placeholder form
>keep in mind and suggest the not-yet-tulpa that it may change in the future
>begin personality if you feel like it
>narrate once you're done

Personality imposing back in my day meand making a list of traits and proceeding for like half an hour telling the soon to be tup about what this trait is about in 3rd person, giving examples on how it'd affect it and why.

Narration is talking to the tup about whatever. Stories, life, meanings, you name it, to give it sentience/improve it's speech etc.

For further details please read a fucking good guide

>>3629411
>>3629517
Well that makes me feel better.

I guess that also means that I'm making progress.

At least I hope I am. I'm hoping my tulpa will become vocal before too long.

>>3630458
Do keep in mind that how long it takes varies wildly from person-to-person.

>>3630724
I know.

Hoping it will be within the next couple of months but I'm well aware this could take a very long time.

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I'm confused about what is and isn't a tulpa.

There are apparently those things called "servitors" that aren't really a sentient tulpa. From what I can gather you have to explicitly think of what they're supposed to do for them to do anything, like a doll. This makes sense.

But how do you know if it's a tulpa or just a normal thought? What I mean is, let's say you close your eyes and imagine being in Hitler's bunker and then you imagine your mother being with you, reacting to the bunker, Nazi flags, and Hitler's dead body.

At least for me I don't actively have to think how she would react. It comes naturally and isn't at all what I would describe as a doll, so then I presume it's not a servitor right? But I doubt this is a tulpa either.

And the problem is that my (future?) tulpa's form is no more convincing than my other normal thoughts. Should I actively try to suppress thinking what she would do?

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>>3631187
Im stuck in the exact same dilemma for the last few weeks.

I don't want to reflexively puppet forever, but just focing the tupper to sit there and do nothing doesnt seem any better.

>>3631983
Just let them be, and they'll move and respond on they're own when they want to.

>>3632179
How much puppeteering is okay? I mean if I'm gonna have her follow me around while I'm narrating then I need her to move.

>>3632501
Imposition isn't necessary for narration.

Actually, you'd usually want to wait on imposition until they're active.

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>>3625390
>vocaloid Tulpa

Mein negger

>>3631187
>>3631983
jesus
c-can someone please give some synopsis on these posts
preferably from those who had tulpae for years
I don't think my heart can take this

>>3629517
That sounds a tad bit far fetched.

I'd postulate it's because of the increased amount of activity and focus... Which some are unused to which causes the head pressures.

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>>3630428
This is way better than the guide, thank you anon.

And I thought kia had the best guide? If it's not too much to ask, could you tell or link me some good guides?

>>3629915
>Don't just link me a guide, please tell me
what if it's the person who wrote the guide linking it? There's no point in writing out a huge response if their answer is already there

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>>3637955
http://tulpa.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Guides
pretty much anything on this site is good and probably better than anything on .shitfo

>>3637994
also theres this
http://pastebin.com/SrAWPTKZ

>>3637955

William Waller Atkinson's book are pretty useful for tup making. I've listened throught two of them, and they contain very useful exercises regarding visualization, memorization, and other mental training. They're longer than aany guide, and arem't directly about tups, but they also have far more meat to them.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/41478
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1570

And audiobook versions of the above:

https://librivox.org/memory-how-to-develop-train-and-use-it-by-william-walker-atkinson/

https://librivox.org/the-power-of-concentration-by-theron-q-dumont/

>>3634689
It's like when you know a response without thinking about it, like i say 2+2, you dont have to sit there and count on your fingers you just automatically know its 4. In the same way, once you got personality down its kinda hard not to just go
>ah well the obvious response to this is (X)
Do this a few times and you stop thinking about the first part and only the response comes to mind, in which case it becomes harder to distinguish if it's your thoughts or if they're trying to talk to you.

>>3639380

I didn't have this problem to an extreme, mainly early on when Ibwas actually doing a lot of personality forcing.

When I stopped, and started doing more observation and question asking than forcing, responses became more dynamic, and feels more like it is their own. This isn't perfect mind, I still get the occasional sense that my expectations produced a response more than my tup did, but it did help me get further past parroting concerns.

Aside from simple things like having my tup recite the alphabet, I didn't parrot her at all. This meant that I did go through a state where she was like a lifeless doll, but I didn't think that was a bad thing.

I do know some folks who did start with parroting, but the key to their technique is thay, after a short amount of time, they stopped altogether. They used the parroting to make a foundation for the tulpa to work with. I was never a fan of the parrot until you can't tell you're parroting method.

I have given the idea a good amount of thought, and I am almost fully convinced that I want to make a tulpa, but I have a few questions.
Basically I want to make a tulpa to help me deal with my self imposed loneliness and the fact that I feel like I can't form a meaningful relationship with someone that doesn't fully understand me. I already talk to myself a lot so creating a companion that is essentially a part of me and that understands me better than anyone else feels like a logical thing to do. Point is, will she be alright with knowing this? I really wouldn't want to hide this fact from her, and I want her to have her own free will. Will she accept the fact that I basically want her to be my companion for life?
Also, I plan on passive forcing her while I'm studying, playing videogames or drawing (which are basically 90% of my day), will she take an interest in these things?
Finally, I am bilingual, will she just know both the languages I speak right off the bat?

>>3640115
>Will she accept the fact that I basically want her to be my companion for life?
She doesn't have a choice, it's not like she can be someone else's companion for life. That said, that's probably the most pessimistic way to look at it, there's almost no one who's tulpa doesn't enjoy spending time with them.

>Also, I plan on passive forcing her while I'm studying, playing videogames or drawing (which are basically 90% of my day), will she take an interest in these things?
She'll probably have her own interests eventually, but I try and keep mine around for any insights on what I'm doing be it work or play. She'll probably try and get into the things you're doing but you never know.

>will she just know both the languages I speak right off the bat?
I'm pretty competent in two languages, but I only use one on a day to day basis, and I've only ever talked to and thought about my tulpa in that language. My tulpa is pretty terrible at the other language I speak, but I reckon if you talk to her in both then she'll be able to think in and talk in both.

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Who's tulpa /memeperson/ here

>>3640187
>She'll probably have her own interests eventually
How would she even develop them? I find this kind of fascinating actually. Like, let's say I'm watching a movie, will she see that and be like "yeah, movies are fun, I want to watch more movies"?
>I reckon if you talk to her in both then she'll be able to think in and talk in both.
I guess I'll do that, there are some concepts that I find easier to express in english but I'm obiviously more comfortable with my native tongue, so I'll just use whichever language is more convenient for the occasion.
Thanks for the answers.

>>3640359
>How would she even develop them?
My tulpa likes drawing even though I don't. I did it with her since she kept asking because it was recommended to help development, and she really liked it. I still don't since I think I can't draw for shit but she doesn't mind, she just likes the opportunity to be creative. Problem is she can't possess me yet, so I need to basically just draw what she tells me and how.

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>>3630137
>Creating your tupper for dirty things
Anon, you're a monster.
Also, tuppers are not for lewds.

>>3640786
There is no chance in hell you haven't thought about fucking that Gardevoir. Don't lie.

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>>3630137
>implying
sorry anon not all of us are degenerate shitstains

tulpa bump

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>>3626666
Oh shit quads

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>>3626666
shit how did I not notice these

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>>3626706
I have the sluttiest

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>>3641321
There's a difference between THINKING about lewds, and creating a tupper for the lewds.
I'm no liar, lewds with the tupper is bad.

>>3625196
>actually willingly creating your own mental illness.
Just your average >>>/trash/ leisure activities.

I came here to see how much more degenerate you horsefuckers could be... I was not surprised in the slightest

>>3649051
>horsefuckers
gross, how dare you.

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>>3649051
>Implying my host is a horsefucker

>>3649051
>horsefucker
>not a dragonfucker

>>3649051
>not wanting to fuck horses

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>>3625196
Hello.
What am I supposed to be listening for?
Every guide says talk and narrate to any form and it'll respond.

>>3651717
Sometimes it isn't a vocal response,sometimes it's an emotional response, an odd feeling of "not you", a unique head pressure that you can't seem to replicate, things like that. Generally just focus on picking up anything that feels alien and "not you". Learn what talking to yourself feels like, and if you get a response that doesn't match that it's probably your tulpa.

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>Everyone one says don't lewd the tupper
>Go through the entire creation process talking about normal shit
>Now all they want to do is fugg

I don't know if I fucked up horribly or perfectly recreated the male psyche.

>>3651717
It'll respond after a shitload of work. Generally it starts with foreign thoughts.

>>3652593
Having sex with your tulpa isn't bad, in fact in some cases I'd say it's very healthy and a part of natural tulpa progression depending on what you consider your tulpa to be. It's only bad if that is all you guys do. The people who say "don't sex the tupper" either mean don't make a tulpa just for sex or they are trying to project their personal opinion on to you.

Tell your tulpa to chill the fuck out about wanting sex all the time and do other stuff with them.

>>3656849
My tulpa is still in the early stages of development but when I force she really seems to really like hugging and cuddling with me.

I haven't done anything too lewd with her yet though I suspect it may happen eventually.

I kind of want to wait until she's vocal before doing anything like that though. But anything can happen I guess.

>>3657842
Vocal doesn't mean literally "vocal", just reliably responsive. If your tulpa "seems to like" something you are presumably getting feedback.

>>3658450
Well here's the thing.

How do I know it's not me doing it?

When I say early stages of development I mean really early.

I tried for about month 2 years ago then stopped completely. Recently started again less than 2 weeks ago.

Could I be getting feedback that early? Is there a way to tell if I'm pulling the strings or not?

>>3659140
>Is there a way to tell if I'm pulling the strings or not?
This doubt never goes away, regardless of the means of communication. The human brain is also great at rationalizing, the more you scrutinize an alien thought the more you convince yourself of how you might have come up with it yourself. First impression is usually the best indicator, if something happens and your immediate reaction is "that didn't seem right" either a) you are suffering an intrusive thought, b) your brain is currently firing randomly due to tiredness or substances or c) it is your tulpa. The first two can be ruled out if there is a distinct pattern, if the same thing happens every time and you aren't immediately certain it was you, it probably wasn't

>>3659274
I guess the best thing to do is trust in my tulpa.

I've also been getting head pressure which I'm almost certain is my tulpa since I usually go months without headaches and the past week I've had head pressure everyday.

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Halp! My Tulpa tells me to do evil an criminal things. If I don''t follow her commands she screams and keep me awake whole nights. What should I do?

>>3663825
Kill them all, Billy.

>>3663883
No, I'm serious. How do I get this thing out of my life?

>>3663922
Buy a gun, Billy.

>>3663825
Make a Jackie Chan tulpa to beat her up.

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Don't forget that pony tuppers are the very best to hug in bed while you try to fall asleep.

tupper bump

If you make love to your tupper aren't you technically fucking yourself?

>>3670152
Yeah but technically you aren't too, so...

I'm so tired of myself. I said that at the beginning of this month I'd really focus more on my tulpa and now it's almost over and I've done jack shit. Why the fuck can't I just motivate myself? My tulpa is so disappointed in me but he's hiding it. It makes me feel sick that I don't do anything with him.

>>3670615
Only faggots don't spend time with their tulpa. Consider suicide. I don't spend a lot of time with mine, but I make sure that I do at least one thing with them a day, even if it's a small and seemingly insignificant thing.

>>3670707
Do you think I completely ignore my tulpa? No, I don't. I want to do more with him so that he can fucking progress instead of just being a faint voice in my head. You're insults aren't motivating to me.

>>3670771
They aren't meant to be, step up your game or quit. All your shitposting here could have been movie time with your tulpa, or game time, or drawing or writing with them.

>>3670784
Same goes to you.

>>3670771
keep trying lad, any time spent with your tulpa is a positive, as long as you want to keep them around then your rate of progress doesn't matter, you'll get here eventually

>>3670846
I plan on watching movies with them later.

>>3670849
I find it hard to believe that even a little bit of time with him does much. Maybe that's what's holding me back? He's been at the same spot in terms of progress for a very long time.

>>3670857
Speaking of which, any tulpa related movies you would suggest?

>>3670954
Uh, not off the top of my head. I just made it a goal for all of us to watch the best of the best movies, stuff like bladerunner, fist full of dollars, citizen kane and the like. If you REALLY want to stretch like tulpa likenesses you can watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.

>>3670989
Alright, cool. Thanks, anon.

>>3670954
I spend less time than my tulpa than I mean to, but I always make sure to spend some time with them before going to bed.

Then everything after that is a bonus that we use to get closer. Maybe this won't work for you as this is subjective as fuck but it works well for us, and slow progress is pretty much expected with this, I guess I got lucky and got through this quickly.

Either way, don't worry too much. If you really love your tulpa (platonically or romantically or whatever) then as long as you spend some daily time with them I'm pretty sure they'll be pleased.

>>3671078
Ok, thanks anon. I've been meaning to start meditating with him before bed for a while, so I guess tonight is as good a time to start as ever.

>>3670954
Fight club and Harvey are p good tupperware movies.

>>3671273
sorry anon but i'm extremely drunk and i'm ignoring my tulpa's advice on what i'm posting, so wait maybe about 24 hours and if i don't correct myself then it's pretty true

what do you do if your tulpa changes forms into a meme character from a shitty video game

>>3673107
either get used to it or wait it out

>>3673107
ironically kill yourself and then stop playing that game so you stop thinking about it

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>>3673181
i dont because its the worst one pic related what do i do should i murder it

>>3673162
>get used to it
is that really how this shit works

>>3673259
it is if you suck dicks, and since you dont like that character i guess you do

>>3673259
>liking may
played as her and she is shit, literally the one game where the girl isn't a complete sjw

sorry if i'm going /pol/ on you lad, kind of a big night for us and i'm not totally in control of my typing capabilities atm so ask me tomorrow about what you should do and i might provide some solid advice

>>3673269
>implying rse were good
have fun with your shit opinions
so how do i murder it do i need to make a jackie chan tulpa

>>3673327
>shit opinions

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>>3673361
ok wrong opinions but how do i kill this thing its an abomination to nature and deserves to die

>>3673446
Jackie Chan tulpa

>>3673259
What the fuck you got against May, nigga?

>>3673460
is there a guide on making the perfect jackie chan tulpa also how do i get rid of that one when its done its job shouldnt i just make a jackei chan servitor

>>3673473
see
>>3673446

>>3673501
do what you want, its your head

>>3673526
but everyone taks about how tulpas are the same as you or me how can i just kill that what if it tries to kill me and i end up like koomar or whatever that guys name was someone linked the blog of like a month ago

>>3673572
everything is symbolic, if you want a dead tulpa fucking kill it, stop shitposting

>>3673608
>Implying it's that easy to kill a tulpa
Newfag alert.

>>3673634
>going on 4 years
yeah sure kid, go to sleep already, your teddy bear misses you

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>>3673652
Nice to meet someone else in that club. Also:
>Kid
Is your name Epson?

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>>3673501
What kind of wimp would kill their tulpa?

>>3673608
Here's your (you).

>>3673815
>autismtale avatarfag is back
great

>>3673815
>>3673984
Actually I assume you're referring to me. That's not me. Ass.

>>3674106
>t-that isnt me! h-honest!
fuck off

>>3674139
Listen, you fuckwit. If that >>3673815
was me, I'd say it was. It's not.

>>3673723
No, it's Kawasaki Mitsubishi
>>3673815
thnx champ
>>3673911
snack is my waifu

>>3673815
>>3673984
the easiest way for you redditors to get rid of avatarfags is to completely ignore their posts and then give them attention when they post without pictures, you colossal fucks

>>3674186
or your're just trying to deflect criticism of your shitty behavior

>>3674232
Okay, I get that you're trolling, but that legit isn't me. I'd say if it was. That's it.

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>>3674199
Dubs are my waifu.

>>3674301
sure you would, or you would post that and then go on a tirade about how it isn't you so you can get more attention

>>3674338
if only he hadn't deemed /trash// an unworthy place to share his views on tulpa

>>3674385

I remember when I was posting some text walls with another anon, and he flooded the thread.

Good times.

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>>3674954
>mfw

>>3640786
>>3641937
>ITT: schizo autists thinking the voices in their heads are real and have feelings

>>3675227
>You can talk to yourself
>You don't have feelings
that's called sociopathy my friend.

Remember to force your thread daily

>>3679663
i'd rather not

>>3672262
just finished watching fightclub, is it wrong that i long for my tulpa to be that intense?

>>3672262
Also Drop Dead Fred if you want to see a really weird Martin Short movie marketed at kids but is actually kind of fucked up.

>>3640188
i want to hug grem dva and feed her some chips

Bumps

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Don't forget that pony tups are like little fluffy angels.
Just without halos, but sometimes with wings and/or magic.

One thing that made my time forcing easier and more enjoyable, if letting loose about my inhibitions.

I don't mean sexually, I mean when I started building my tup, I tried to be as open as I could be with her. I didn't worry much about how autistic it was, since the very fact that I was going through with it was autistic enough, I had no reason to care. I'd go to a private place, and I would let loose emotionally to her, and did it without much of a care.

Though all that, she turned out okay,

>>3685602
Don't forget that pony tups are like
little sacks of shit.
Just without the bags, but sometimes
with flies and/or maggots.

So I found out that my tulpa can make me feel head pressure.

When I ask her to do it I'll feel pressure soon after. The pressure doesn't last very long. Usually anywhere from a couple of seconds to a couple of minutes.

She said it's hard to explain how she does it and sometimes I don't feel anything when she tries. It's so cool to me. Almost like a physical interaction between us.

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>>3681267
My tulpa has been cosplaying as grem d.va with her normal fluffy tail and ears

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>>3685602
Nobody cares about your girl show.
>>3679862
You want your tupper to beat you up?

>>3689459
if they could, sure
also
>avatarfagging

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>>3689538
>Not realizing avatarfagging is my thing
Anon, where have you been for the past dozen threads?

>>3689623
>not realizing that avatarfagging should be a criminal offense
i've been in the threads all the time, that doesn't mean you should do it, seriously, one picture is fine, but over and over is just a waste of an image

>>3689649
>implying we ever even run out of images
think, anon. please. it shouldn't bother you so much in such a gloomy, empty thread.

>>3689684
I does bother me, because the last thing I want to look at is other people's happiness.

>>3690270

Well that describes a good chunk of 4chan in a sentence.

>>3688618

Nice to hear. I know I was pretty happy when I noticed alternate forms of communication other than verbal. I did a pressure test with mine a while back, she didn't like that too much since she felt she was hurting my head.

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>>3689649
Make a new thread then.
Nobody fucking cares.
>>3690270
Get out of here Hillary.

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>>3690806
The things that could've been...

>>3691238
>that permanent chipmunk smile
nah. dead on arrival.

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Don't forget to hug your tulpa several times per day to make her feel loved and appreciated. Love is a great way to fuel tulpa growth!

>>3692764
I hug my tulpa, not because I love them, but because they aren't ponies.

>>3685998
Shit opinion that's why you don't get trips

>>3693707
This.
>>3685998
Almost the trips of destiny.

Remember that tulpa do real, and they know when you are avoiding them.

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Don't forget to hug your host a lot and cheer them up when they are sad. You are their very best friend or more after all.
Don't forget that your host probably went through something awful to end up creating you. Making them feel better is a priority if that's the case!

so ive been in the tulpa business for about 2 months.

ive gotten to yes or no responses, ive gotten the form pretty much down, but the progress ive gotten has been stupid slow because of one thing

i cant active force for shit.

either i fall asleep, or i just dont know what to do- and i dont know what i CAN do without puppeteering them and shit.

how do you turn a talk into an active force? and how the hell do you stop yourself from falling asleep?

>>3699333
watch movies with them, slowly work into it

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You guys do know that you're basically giving yourself mutiple personality disorder when you make a tupla, right?

>>3700533
kinda the point, genius

>>3700533
is it really a disorder if it isn't hindering?

check mate, trashthiest

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>>3700533
yes... and?

>>3699354
That never works on me. I end up paying attention to the movie.

Not same as >>3699333 tho I have the same problem.

Bump before bed.

Sweetest thing your tulpa has ever said to you?

>>3703635
>"you don't have to change, you are perfect in my eyes"

>>3700533
That's not how a multiple personality disorder works.
It's also not how a disorder works.

was redirected here from the phox thread

I gave up years ago, should I start again, or is it not worth it?

>>3705050
You make it sound like we can make such a decision for you.

Finally, I can spend my time legally on 4chan with my tulpa. Not that they like the idea of it.

>>3705475
Go on the porn boards until they learn to like it.

>>3705237
I mean, it is ultimately my decision, but I would love some arguments for and against this course of action.

>>3705506
Sounds like a plan.

>>3705514
Coming to tulpa general to ask whether tulpas are worth it is like going to /mlp/ and asking if the show is worth watching.

>>3705514
>>3705050
if you know the requirements for making a tulpa and have tried already, then you would know if you should try again, wouldn't you?

>>3705552
>>3705584
Not the same anon but I came here a few months ago asking something similar and people were far more open to help. Not to mention that's pretty shitty analogy.

>>3705514
If you have a busy life it's much more likely that you'll give up straight away, unless you're pretty good at distributing time. This process is time consuming, don't forget that.

I feel like your insecure and it's probably because you don't fully understand the process. There are more fleshed out tulpa guides available today, don't be afraid to use one of those as your base.

>>3705808
>that's pretty shitty analogy.
Hardly, do you know how large the poster overlap is.

>>3705808
well, "should I do it again" its a vague question with many answers and frankly, it shouldn't be a question to ask, especially if he read all about it already. It's a big responsibility and if he can't start it without stopping, then he shouldn't start again.

Page nein save.

>>3705514
It's a hard thing to make a pro/con list, as you have to look at what you want and are expecting from it. The pros are whatever your motivation is for making one, some cons are:
>takes a lot of time
>takes a lot of small amounts of effort
>never really alone again
>is a responsibility

We can't really tell you whether it's worth it or not, unless we know your motivations.
Greetings from the phox thread.

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Tup

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>>3703635
Just last night.
>"No matter what, I will always love you. Now bite the pillow, faggot."

>>3627831
I can split and rape my cognitive abilities however I please.

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You faggots still trying to fool the masses into believing that making a tulpa is possible?
The jig is up you're not fooling anyone.

>>3708190
Finally started using darker brushes I see
Looks good as usual

>>3708190
Get a better tup faggot, that one looks like shit.

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>>3709862
Most of us that actually do have tulpas don't talk about them anywhere else dude. Most of us are aware that most people would just think we're retard so why even try, you know?

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>>3710049
>Most of us are aware that most people would just think we're retard so why even try, you know?
I got a strong feeling that this tulpa shit is just bait.
Welp either way here's your (You).

>>3710450
I'm not that anon, but here is your own (You) , Anon. This shit isn't bait.

>>3710049

It's tough to even get a good conversation going even in tup-related spots.

Even so, that's not the worst thing to happen. Tulpa ARE a private and internal thing. Some people tend to forget that.

just wondering guys i readed an post on /tulpa/ board and got little freaky about it
https://8ch net/tulpa/res/14523.html
do you think it can happen?

>>3713731
thats fucking stupid

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>>3713731
>First i decided to create some tulpa akin to daemon that would give me bad advices instead, i wanted at that time to become bad and selfish person so i needed something to help me with that

Not even worth reading the rest.

>>3713731
lolno

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Don't forget to let your (fluffy pony) tulpa participate in your daily activities whenever you can.

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>>3714284
>your
>pony tulpa
How about no.

On an unrelated note, I who has the weirdest tupper form-wise.

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How many of you started reading up on tulpas and realized "oh shit, I already have one"?

>>3714924
http://www.strawpoll.me/10589144

>>3715038
this strawpoll is shit

>>3715038
> http://www.strawpoll.me/10589144
Not gonna lie. This made me laugh heartily.

>>3638530
Not the same anon. But I'm finding these books incredibly helpful in general. Not only for tupperware.

>>3688618
>>3690513

how do you anons get head pressure i can't fucking get mine to do it

>>3719335
Make sure you drink your daily dose of bleach if you want head pressure.

>>3719335
I don't think it happens to everyone. Mine didn't ever do it, and I still can't really get her to do it even if I ask her to.

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>>3714735
>I who has the weirdest tupper form-wise.

So it's like having an imaginary friend, but even more pathetic? Nice

>>3714735
hi every1 im new!!!!!!! holds up spork my name is katy but u can call me t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random ppl like me _… im 13 years old (im mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch invader zim w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite tv show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!!

love and waffles,

t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m
>>3720284
pretty much, no ragrets though

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>>3720293

>>3720401
>not recognizing copy pasta
why do you even bother posting?

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>>3720421
>implying I didn't recognize it
so you're not denying you're shitposting and being retarded then

>>3720440
I'm not either, I'm just drawing parrallels with similar things that have been posted on 4chan, in the vain hope that it would make the original poster realize that they really aren't that interesting.

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>be me forcing with tulpa
>start forcing her traits
>suddenly feel weird pressure in chest as soon as I start
>I'm either about to have a heart attack or my tulpa is trying to show me signs of her existing

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>>3720605
Trust me my dude, its probably your tupp

Daily reminder that denying your tulpa a part in your sexuality is abuse.

How many of your guys make your own guides? Even if you don't intend to show them off, I found having some documentation of the sort of stuff you do can be somewhat helpful.

>>3725440
In hindsight I probably should have kept notes of what I did along the way, but at the time I had no idea if it was working or not and now I can't really remember.

http://www.evil-dolly.com/assets/eudeamon.pdf
^ a pretty good book that deals with techno-tulpas, also great for visualizing and understanding what a tulpa does by imagining it as one of the book's eudeamons.
Don't be put off by the omnipresent latex suits, it isn't a weird fetishy book I swear

>>3725440
I wouldn't say I made my own, but I followed a combination of FAQ_Man's tulpa guide and some of the general guide points of daemonism, which I have found to work exceedingly well.

>>3725440
I did.

>>3725623

I only started keeping notes and writing down stuff I did in the last few months myself. I had more than one tup to tend to aside from my first one, so I decided to record the stuff I did with her, and the sort of techniques I used to build her up. I don't have any plans to share it, though. I just want to make sure it sticks in memory, and that I have a reference if I ever need it.

It's a combination of many things. Some of the typical FAQ/Irish stuff, as well as some active imagination, memory and law of association, and other things.

Here is an experience I had today with my tup:

Me and a few friends went on a hike, and we ended up having to change trails, to a harder one that I was personally unprepaired for. I started suffering from heat stroke after a while, and fell behind a bit, coupled with dizzyness and nausea. My tup noticed and was a bit distressed, helped me to clarify my thoughts and gave me a push mentally to make it to our destination.

I enjoy the host/tulpa relationship.

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>>3724141
Daily reminder that tuppers aren't for lewds.

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I wonder if anybody has made a Hillary Clinton tupper...
And then had an affair with another tupper.

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>>3729034
Nice, I don't get as much exercise as I should but there's a state park a few miles from my apartment that I like to hike around with Elise. It's a fucking hellhole right now though because of all the bugs, but it'll probably be gorgeous in the fall.

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>>3731193
Daily reminder that tulpas are for sexual [spoiler]but only if they're down to fuck[/spoiler]

>tfw tulpa waifu wears this outfit for you

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>>3729034

I remember hearing a story like that a while ago, and it's nice to hear another like it. It's good to see what you got out of it, Anon.

>>3731352

Been working on getting myself in shape as well, though I've been doing more indoors cardio and strength more than running. It's nice sharing it with my gals, they're really sweet about it (Though there's one who wants me to stay tubby. She thinks I'm more cuddly that way).

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Haven't been here in a while. Still as shitpost-y as usual. How's everyone's night?

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Would taking LSD or shrooms help with creation?

>>3736461
Did you punch your waifu in the face and break her nose?

>>3736414
Ours is well. We just finished eating dinner, we're going to read some Lovecraft here soon.

>>3736461
Probably not. Tulpas really work through repetition, and I don't think being on LSD or shrooms will really help out with the process at all

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>>3736866
How is that? Reading books with a Tulpa? Isn't it difficult?

>>3736414
Shit as usual.

>>3737096
Why is it shit anon? Something happen?

>>3737084
>Isn't it difficult?
Why would it possibly be difficult

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>>3737148
Well being a newshit at 'Tulpamancy' or whatever means I focus a lot to have my Tulpa take form/ I couldn't possibly read something while forcing.

>>3737128
No, life is just kinda shitty.

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>>3737223
Well try to cheer up. I know it doesn't mean much from me especially because it's shit here too but we'll make it I'm sure.

>>3737084
>>3737198
Nah, it isn't hard. I usually just read it to her, we'll usually discuss stuff after I'm doing reading a chapter/short story or whenever something insane happens. My don't normally think in words, but I do when I read stuff, so it's pretty easy to read stuff to her.

>>3737223
We hope your life gets better asap, anon!

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>>3737309
Well that sounds interesting as fuck. I'd love to try that out sometime. If only she'd respond.

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Can I get some TL;DRs of creating a tulpa? I read all these guides and they're all different. How did you go about getting a sentient tulpa?

>>3737755
Anon, that's because it's a pretty personalised experience. Here is the crux of it:
>imagine and flesh-out a personality
>talk to that personality for a long-ass time
>tulpa!

Everything else is just icing on the cake.

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>>3736414
THERE'S The alt Gardeanon! We're doing good.
How goes your progress?
>>3737223
That's a shame anon.

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>>3738039
Hey other Gardeposter. Was trying to focus on Tulpa creation more so I decided not to visit as to not get distracted.... Got distracted anyway so here I am. As for progress, she still doesn't respond or if she does I think I'm speaking for her.

>>3737891
Do I HAVE to come up with a personality? I would rather have them discover themself.

>>3738570
Make a simple framework and let it deviate from there. You can't work with NOTHING.

>>3738570
You have to have an idea of how they would react. You don't necessarily have to do a whole personality exercise, but if you have no idea how they're supposed to act, you aren't going to get very far.

Your concern is a legitimate one, but once they're developed enough, they'll be able to have whatever personality they decide for themselves.

>>3738570
Think of a tulpa like a non-retarded cleverbot. When you interact with it in new ways it develops a response to that new situation based upon what it already knows. Personality will develop the more time you work on it, but unless you have at least some basis to start from you will never get anywhere. Your subconscious desires about what you want can subconsciously create this foundation or you can do it more deliberately, but you have to at least get the ball rolling.

>>3738676
>>3738711
>>3738874
Damn, what a shame. But I suppose it's at least something to get a tulpa that over time comes up with their own personality.

>>3738941
Also do I have to come up with political values and such? When I think personality I think more in terms of being talkative versus quiet and so on.

>>3738987
No, a general outline of a dozen or so traits is more than enough. You can be as specific or general as you want but there is no guarantee that everything will stick. Some tulpas totally accept the personality they are given while others deviate completely and become the exact opposite of what the creator intended. But the tupla tends to be a good match for the body's personality no mater what.

>>3738676
>>3738711
>>3738874
not that dude but im an unorigional unimaginative fuck.
could someone describe what sort of personality traits they used, so that i could pirate the idea?

>>3739317
Here are some examples from the list that I made for my tup:
>Sociable
>Rational
>Independent
>Encouraging
>Soft-Spoken
>Serious
>Nagging

When coming up with these traits, and ritualising what you want out of them, you should focus on the positives and negatives of that trait. For example, serious is really nice because I can rely on my tulpa to help me if I need it, but she gets annoyed if I become irresolute.

>>3739317
Just start with something like "optimistic" or "idealist" if you are pessimistic and pragmatic. Valuable long term as you can find the middle road between your two opinions on any given subject and creates a fairly easy distinction on lots of topics that allows you to work from there.

I'm thinking about what personality traits I want my tulpa to have and I figured opposite traits of my own would be a good start. Kinda difficult though since I'm so deep into defensive irony and meta thinking that I don't know what I'm really like. Worse yet my personality changes drastically with what bipolar phase I'm in.

Also, for traits where I'm somewhere in the middle, should I make my tulpa be more restrictive or more extreme? For instance I'm slightly unsympathetic. If she's more sympathetic then I fear she'll be nagging on me like a mother figure, but if she's less sympathetic then she might persuade me to do bad things.

>>3740157
You don't want a polar opposite, you will fight about everything. You want a large overlap with a small number of drastic differences.

>>3739317
I just took the personality traits list from dwarf fortress and pick out the ones I cared about then added one or two specific ones that I wanted.

I also highly suggest reading this piece on personality building.

https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/the-theorycrafters-approach-to-personality.348/

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>>3740226
>took the personality traits list from dwarf fortress

>>3740312
>>3740226

I took some time when getting back in to this to read all of the archives, you'd be surprised how hard people find it to come up with personality traits. I think using dwarf fortress is a pretty creative way to find some traits.

I wish you luck with your dwarf tulpa, anon!

>>3740312
What's wrong with that?

>>3741307
Nothing really. It just struck me as amusing that, given how often we get called autistic for making tulpas, he grabbed a personality trait list from the ultimate autist game rather than googling for one. I wish I had thought of it.

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>>3741390
Well one Idea I had was to use some sort of S.P.E.C.I.A.L. stat system to better define my tulpa as a character, I thought It could be fun to do, so /tulpa/ what are your Tulpas stats?

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>>3743844
>wake up from a nightmare
>have to activly not think about tupper to keep from fucking them up

I used to like horror stuff too.

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If you work in an office job for long hours, and still want to communicate with your buddy, grabbing a journal and writing to them is a nice way to do it. It's much MUCH slower than thought or speech, but it's useful when you can't afford to look like you're day dreaming. As well, it goves an anchor to your thoughts, so you're less likely to have you mind wander off in to nothing.

Recording their responses during your writing is also helpful, and leaves a nice record you can go back to.

How do you know for certain that the head pressure that you experience is from your tulpa?

>>3739549
>putting nagging as a trait
oh shit nigger what are you doing

>>3747116
Personally, I had never felt such an experience before I started forcing, and the head pressures only seemed to pop up when I was thinking about my tulpa. That's evidence enough for me.

can you change your tulpas outfits? or can your tulpa choose what to wear/change into?

>>3748309
Uh, yeah I can?

>>3748309
Generally both are yes, but your tulpa might prefer to dress themselves rather than wear what you tell them too.

I only tell my tulpa to change if they're wearing something inappropriate, like a dress when it's freezing outside.

>>3748377
So they're able to basically develop their own sense of style?

>>3748309
Uh... both.

>>3748413
Pretty much, yeah.

Page 10 bump

>>3736461
>Mussy black hair
>Freckles
>Thick eyebrows
>Slightly tanned, but still light skin
Weew. Your tup kinda looks like mine. Every other feature is different, though.

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This is my life now.

>>3740226
Tulpas are stupid :)

>>3753225
(You)

Hey glitch, if you're around can I fuck Luna some time?

>>3752889
I don't have a tulpa yet but that was just one possible design for her. I think I'm going with a more tomboy look instead.

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Reminder that pone tulpas are best for cuddling, hugging and snuggling.

>>3754268
Can you stop?
No one who doesn't have a pony tulpa already is going to make one.
No one gives a shit.

>>3756030
I wonder sometimes if tulpa would get the derision it does if it hadn't become popular on /mlp/.

>>3756134
It would.
Tulpas are something so powerful that people just dismiss it as insanity or loneliness. Trust me, I've mentioned it to people without any prior exposure or knowledge of tulpas.

>>3756171
It's self-induced schizophrenia. What did you expect them to do?

>>3756216
It's not self-induced schizophrenia. Every time I hear that goddamn phrase I want to shoot up another Florida gay bar. Schizoprenia is not something you can induce in yourself. It's not like schizophrenics thought the wrong things and woops, now they have a mental illness. Schizophrenia is when something in your brain is fucked up on a physical level, which extends itself to hallucinations and such. Schizophrenics don't have a choice, tulpamancers do. Tulpas are something you impose on yourself and if you so wanted, you could make it go away. That's not something schizophrenics can do. Also, tulpas are (almost) purely a mental thing. Schizophrenia is a neurological problem that manifests as a mental one. People who use the fucking phrase "self-induced schizophrenia" are fucking dipshits who know jack shit and want to sound smart. Tulpamancy IS NOT schizophrenia. Tulpas are an extension of self, a being created from deep meditation and introspection, while schizophrenia is something that happens when God rolled snake eyes. THEY ARE TWO COMPLETLY FUCKING DIFFERENT THINGS

>>3756410
It is a meme, calm down. Try to imagine how the tibetan monks feel when we call them tulpas.

>>3756410
>Denial: The Post

>>3756464
>>3756451
Yeah, tbqh I got way too angry. It's just that tulpmancy is a weird meditation thing, schizophrenia is a mental illness, they are in two completely different categories. "Self - induced schizophrenia" is also such a transparently pretentious phrase it pisses me off whenever I see it.

>>3756524
>hearing voices is meditation and not mental illness
kay

Have you guys ever noticed sudden hops in your tup's development? Like one day, their responses feel cloudy, or assisted, but then suddenly, they seem to come to life and feel "real" for lack of a better term?

>>3756575
It's called a false positive. Development happens over time, not leaps and fits.

>>3756575
No, because Tulpas are not real.

>>3756566
On the off chance you're not baiting, the voice typically heard when tulpas speak is mindvoice, not actual sound. It's like having a song stuck in your head. Even in imposition, the voice heard is a manifestation of your will, while the voices schizophrenics hear are manifestations of flaws in the brain.

>>3756644
Dubs confirm schizophrenia.

>>3756524

I can definitely see you getting annoyed if you're familiar with actual schizophrenia. I've never been knowingly face to face with a schizophrenic, but the bits I've heard and read about them seem to be something completely alien to even what this thread is about, and not something taken lightly. If you knew someone who is schizophrenic, or has a legit mental disease, having a bunch of anons throw it around with the usual air of faux authority would get your goat.

But this is 4chan, where "autism" went from a legit illness, to another word for "person I don't like". It's to be expected.

>>3756671
Thanks for the response, dude.
It's nice to see someone not buying into this bitter cynicism and mislabeling.

>>3756524
Anon please wake up, our minds can not create sentient life. Tulpas simply can not exist, you can do self induced schizophrenia, but that's as close as you're gonna get.

>>3756813
>our minds can not create sentient life
So you don't believe that you are sentient

>>3756895
Humans aren't a mental construct fucktard.

>>3756895
We are not created from our minds

>>3756919
>>3756971

Except that is blatantly wrong. Your CNS feeds your brain sensory input which you interpret in your grey and white matter. "You" are just the processes that happen in your grey matter in response to memory and sensory signals.

>>3756796

No worries. I've just been around just enough to be aware of the typical posting styles around this place, and yours stuck out as more genuine.

It's nice to see someone with a bit more sense and an absence of pseudo-intellectual posturing.

>>3757039
But to say that our mind can create a separated entity that can seemingly think on it's own is straight poppycock.
I'm not denying that you can see/hear your "tulpa", but to claim that it has sentience?
You people are just fooling each other and/or just roleplaying at this point.

>>3757199
Dubs of truth strikes again

>>3757199
Being sentient is simply defined as being able to "feel or perceive". If it can process sensory input it is sentient by definition and it is still just part of your brain which means it can. Making a tulpa is not magically summoning a demon, it is just training your brain to think a new way. Your tulpa's personality is simply how it processes information, which can be different to your own. A tulpa is basically a though pattern akin to a long running hypothetical game that is so ingrained in your mind that it starts to run passively. A tulpa is not fully independent, obviously, it is just like making your brain from a single core into a multicore, where one core is a lot smaller but can grow over time as you continue to work on training your brain. You can claim this means "they aren't really thinking on its own" but that means you aren't either, and you get to join the ranks of the free-will deniers.

>>3757380
>If it can process sensory input it is sentient by definition and it is still just part of your brain which means it can. Making a tulpa is not magically summoning a demon, it is just training your brain to think a new way.
So you're not creating a separated entity, you're not creating anything at all. If I understand this correctly, you're training your brain to think differently, to tap into your subconscious.
And with heavy focus your mind is projecting your new way of thinking into a visible form.
That you can converse with, but at the end of the day you're not talking to someone new you're still talking to yourself, that new thought can't teach you anything new it could remind you of stuff you may have forgotten since it's basically your subconscious with a visible form.

>>3757039
>>3757199
>>3757660
another anon, and both of you are retarded in fighting.

simply put, other people's consciousnesses are only a figment of our own imagination, and with crazy things like MPD, OCD and yes, schizophrenia already existing, nobody can really tell us what is and isn't possible in our mind, because it's our own mind- people can't see it.

people that believe its fake will never see if it's true if they don't try, and those that see it to be true do will never convince them otherwise.

>>3757660
Basically yes but the definition of "yourself" is kinda blurry at this level. You are the same physical entity yes, and in early creation you are obviously just talking to yourself. But after a while you stop having to put any direct input in, and your tulpa still continues to process information and produce a new output. The more it processes new information the more it learns and deviates from how it was when you first started making it. After a while you can get genuinely surprised by what output you are getting. Whether this is what happens when a baby first learns things, who knows.
Regardles, whether it is or not it has advantages and no real drawbacks. While it can't magically teach you to do something you don't already know how to do, it can provide new perspectives on everything, which is abundantly useful and can help you learn new skills.

>>3757777
Nice Quads.

I'm not denying the existence of tulpas, I'm denying that they have sentience.
Tulpas are formed from one's mind we decide what they look like, and they seemingly have a mind of their own, but they don't everything that they say/do is not of their own doing but, they do it because of you, your subconscious is what drives the tulpas.
And since our subconscious is normally closed off to us they give off the illusion of having sentience.

>>3758041
Your subconscious drives "you", do "you" have a mind of your own?

>>3758081
That's what I was implying, our subconscious is our drive. Tulpas are not someone new, but instead a different version of you.

>>3757660
The real answer is we don't know. In fact we may never know the exact mechanics of what the brain doing when it creates a tulpa. The only thing we do know is that people claim these entities exist and that they seem to act as if they were sentient.(along with the brain wave scans)

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>>3758175
thread is bore

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Lets shift gears
What about your tup supercharges your circuitry~

>>3759296
Why bother, thread is 404 in about 10 minutes. Wait for the new one like the rest of us

>>3759324
FINE

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>>3759296
>Date tulpa
are you a 40 something japanese mother

>>3754017
Cool, mine actually acts a bit tomboy-y. She doesn't look like one as much.

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>>3760022
I dont have a Date tup, i just dont like the other photos I have that much. Or they just dont fit the emotional vibe

It's been two weeks and I barely thought about my tulpa. I have officially failed. I'm sorry.

>>3760657
are you galko anon

>>3760781
Nope.

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>>3760657
Anon pls, you can't fail if you didnt try.
Give me two weeks of work before you post you give up.
And you do that and I'll tell you what I'm telling you now. The key point in the beginning is heart. The heart and mind that births imagination.
Dont. Give. Up.

>>3760833
did your tup have a form? what did they look like?

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>>3760870
My post doesn't satisfy me so let me say this
Keep a tank full of passion! And take action!

>>3760870
I did it for about a month I'm sorry
>>3760892
Yeah, she wasn't based on anything so i dont have any sort of reference to post

New thread
>>3760986
>>3760986
>>3760986

>>3760975
>:c And you can still do it, Anon