>it's an "artist gets butthurt after finding out

>it's a "stop liking what i don't like" episode

real talk i don't even approve of censoring public content- ESPECIALLY forcefully by just abusing the system instead of proposing any logic as to why anyone should heed and conform to your wishes- but artists can do what they want.

You can claim "it's for your own good" all you want but ultimately you're just shitting explosive diarrhea in their direction to make yourself feel better about yourself, and they are doing the same to you and everyone by abusing the system to silently get people to blindly do what they want. it is all terrible. you shouldn't respect them, and they shouldn't respect you. you should both kill yourselves because you obviously can't communicate, because you suck

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>>3149671

It shows, the further you go back in e621's image history the worse the art gets because all good art eventually gets taken down only leaving christjackson/sonichu tier garbage up.

>>3149022
what artist?

>>3149739

That's not real talk, you white-knighting, artist bitch.

How dare you even spout that lying shit on the same website that's given us a torrent board and distributed celebrity pics time and again on /b/.

Get fucking out, furfag
>>>/furaffinty/

>>3154557
I don't agree with that anon's end point, but at least they could express themselves reasonably and without making a post entirely out of buzzwords
please get fucking out yourself

>>3155650
desu i have literally never heard the phrase "how dare you" sincerely from anyone but self-entitled 40+ y.o females indoctrinating youngins, so, even though the rest of that post seems sincere, that one quote is rly throwing me off.

I just don't bother with artists that use patreon. I know they'll always have their whales, but they should just host it all on a site they can get as revenue from instead of FA, or something.

>>3155772
ad revenue wouldn't pay jack shit unless they're some incredibly well known top-.01% artist

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>It's an "artist only uploads thumbnails with patreon links to an art website" episode

Cheeky bastards.

>>3159046
>It's an "artist starts a patreon, and suddenly begins uploading nothing but censored art to free galleries while keeping the uncensored version on Patreon" episode
>It's an "artist whines about all of the angry comments he's receiving from his followers that he pissed off by moving his uncensored art behind a paywall" episode

motherfucker what did you think was going to happen when you took something that has been free for so long and put it behind a paywall

>>3155772
You really don't know shit about ad revenue, porn ad revenue at that

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>it's an "artist removes DNP, people start uploading her art en-masse to a booru, then artist shits herself and starts screaming at people for uploading her art "too fast" and puts the DNP back in place less than 48 hours later" episode

I don't understand women

>>3155772
Unless you're getting atleast 10k hits a day, ad revenue barely pays for the site's upkeep, especially for a NSFW site.

>>3159372
That's why they should never upload hi res, nsfw material for free in the first place. Only start introducing it when Patreon is up.

>>3149739
>real talk

I stopped taking you seriously, right there. Real talk.

>>3159372
Man they keep repeating those episodes nowadays, it's time for something new

>it's an "artist has some sort of midlife crisis and nukes everything and state they're quitting, only to apologize like a week later but they never reupload their art they nuked" episode
>each season has about 5 of these episodes

>>3159461
nice argument famalam

>>3149894

I wish there were more of this bird

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>>3164502

>>3166857

Yes, please

>>3161034
>spouts barely comprehensible, condescending profanity
>expects reasonable response

Real talk.

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>it's an "artist complains that people unwatch her when she posts her mediocre and stagnating art" episode
>it's actually a two part episode where she also complains that people unwatch her when she doesn't post anything at all

Gee, have you tried IMPROVING your work or at least not going backwards since you started several years ago?

>>3167210
>i can't give you an intelligent reply so i will stop reading two words into your post then vaguely claim you're wrong later

k

>>3167398
>I can dish it out, but can't take it

Cry some more, faggot.

>>3167580
>i LITERALLY lack the capacity to acknowledge and respond to the content of your post
>but, i vaguely claim your original post is of the same bs, therefore it is

at this point, oh great philosopher Socrates you, i will stop pursuing your actual proposal of any argument whatsoever because are you fucking serious

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>It's an "artist still has commissions from last year that they haven't completed" episode

Bonus points if the artist isn't even that good.

>>3169352
>it's an "artist has an average commission turnaround time of two years" episode
>still charges $60 for a single basic image

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>>3169352
>it's an "Artist takes commissions but never completes them, instead doing a constant flow of sketch streams and YCHs, then makes a journal complaining about people bothering her about unfinished commissions, then has a 'stress crisis' and falls off the face of the internet" episode

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>its an "artist switches up your fursonas eye color making it orange and not blue and now you have two pics with different eye colors" episode

>>3155650

Nah, you just need to kill yourself

>>3173006
quality post

>>3173006
Lol were you really sincere with your post of "i hate you fuck off"

it's time for you to get back to tumblr where ranting fits are taken seriously

>It's an "alleged artist starts a shitload of trades with people and then never finishes his half" episode

It was this guy on DeviantART who literally started over 40 trades with various artists and then never finished his half of the trade. I feel bad for all those artists that drew his shitty red and black OC and never got compensated for it.

Someone asked all the artists about it, they all told him they never got their end of the trade, and the faggot ended up removing all of the art and abandoning his DA account.

>>3167813
>wahwahwahwahwah

Crybaby.

>its an "anons have shit tastes in artists and complain when they do something shitty" episode

>its an artist paywalls their shit and delays releasing low quality public versions by at least a year

>>3179731
>...episode

Tune in next time folks, when absolutely nothing happens!

>>3169352
>it's an "artist opens commissions for a week and gets booked until August" episode
[spoiler]why didn't you respond planetofjunk[/spoiler]

>>3167289

who

I agree it's fucking stupid but deal with it like everyone else by either supporting them or getting nice anons to post them in threads like this if they pay. It does suck that artists are just going to fade into obscurity if they don't let the good shit get posted publicly but you can't stop them from shooting their own arms off so there's no reason to bitch about it.

Just back up what you have and post it on sites like imgur or somewhere else they can't bitch to take it down.

>its an "l do comissions, but no porn though" episode

>>3192044
>it's an "I do commissions but only of the very narrow range of things I want to do and I charge you the full price you would normally pay if you actually got to choose what you wanted" episode

>>3178694
>art trades and requests from strangers on DA, FA, Tumblr etc
I never understand why someone would do that?

>>3179731
The best way to paywall is never post the hi-res, nsfw shit before introducing the paywall. So the people don't feel cheated by taking away something they had for free for so long.

>>3173152
>>3173269

Nice samefag

>>3192536
are you really just going to spend the entire thread making masturbatory posts in my direction because you're incapable of submitting an intelligent reply to my original post?

i'm ending this conversation here, by the way. but, continue being butthurt at your own inability conceive an intelligent reply.

it's been two days. get a life?

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>>3192536
nope
have fun being retarded though

>it's an "artist deletes all their work" episode
>only archive was posted then deleted in the artist's journal
>no one else saved all of their work and no other archive exists
>artist recently started uploading art again
>deletes all of it again for no reason

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>It's a "artist who draws weird shit deletes a specific image for no discernible reason" episode
>It's a "you scroll down on the user page and you see a bunch of comments saying RIP" episode
>It's a "artist only posts their shit on 4chan" episode
>It's a "the source of that one image is linked only to a booru gallery" episode

>>3149739

Well artists are entitled to control of their work.

Their rationale may not be sound but you can't do anything about that.

>>3194151
Nobody is gonna argue that, but if you chose to do something unorthodox with your services then you don't have any right to complain.

>it's an artist does 90% of his art on stream and never uploads it episode

>>3193725
>only archive was posted then deleted in the artist's journal

Sunibee? I remember saving that archive. A memento of times past.

Sunibee general

>It's an "artist takes commissions and spends more time drawing personal art than working on things they were paid to do, making commissioners wait forever" episode

I will never understand this. If someone is paying you for a service, shouldn't that take priority over random doodles and gift art for others?

>>3198257
Yeah, I once commissioned an artist for a single-character, flat-colored, no-background image, and it took him almost ten months to complete it.

All the while, he was constantly churning out "gift art" for friends, doing request streams, and in general, just fucking about drawing things for other people.

When asked what was taking him so long, he gave me bullshit about "ohh it's a commission so I try extra hard and it's stressing me out wahhhhh" and shit....yeah, my finished commission wasn't any better than the free shit he was drawing for his friends.

>>3192257

>it's an "artist complains about how few commissions they get with their restrictive commission rules, and focuses on how fair their prices are instead of how poorly they advertise themselves" episode
>it always follows the "artist nukes their old porn account to start fresh, and denies their history of drawing porn whenever asked" episode

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>it's an "artist becomes a born-again Christian, deletes all of their 10/10 porn that hits your fetish perfectly, then disappears from the internet" episode

>>3200117
alternatively
>it's an "artist who was always a born-again Christian and draws god-tier fetish art but refuses to draw any actual lewds because of said religious conviction" episode

>>3200203
>it's a christian furries in general episode

>It's an "Artist disappears from the internet forever for reasons you don't understand" episode

Fuchur you shit, come back right now.

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>>3194274
/r/ing that archive

>>3198508
I also had something like this happen. I'd ask the artist every 2-3 months or so for a status update, and every time he'd say that he was backlogged, even though he was cranking out new art every 3-4 days. He even took someone's New Years commission and finished it in about a week, while I had been waiting for around 9 months. At exactly 10 months I told him enough was enough, and he apologized and said he get me my commission that day. A few hours later it was finished.

>>3198257
>>3198508
Commissions really do stress me out, which is why I don't take the things. I'd rather be a poorfag.

>>3194274
Not who I was referring to but it kindof still applies.

>>3149022
>>3149894
i wonder if there's eventually going to be something like piratebay just for paywall'd art

>>3203466
yiff.party

>>3203543
>sadnate.jpg

>>3203543
Yeah, but how do you get an account?

I don't know anyone willing to give me an invite.

>>3203607
>>3203807

i literally just reverse image searched the image you see when you visit that site and the first result is a tutorial on another imageboard on how to access the site

and by "tutorial" i mean hyperlink you click on to access the site's contenre

but somehow i doubt you should be dropping the link here or taking about it willy-nilly because more illuminarti bullshit will probably happen to make the site harder to access

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>It's an artist gets butthurt that someone is posting "their" art on websites and thinks he is the sole owner without knowing that commissioned art is joint ownership and the commissioner can do what he wants as long as he doesn't modify it and resale it episode.

>it's a "furry artist who doesn't consider themselves furry" episode
I know they are just trying hard not to be associated with the fandom or "autism", but just accept being called a furry goddamn.

>>3205418
This is so hilarious and cute.

I've seen lots of artists that specialize in M/M but claim to be straight, it's adorable.

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>>3205807
>specialize in M/M but claim to be straight
I do this. I don't only draw gay stuff but I draw a lot. Nobody believes I'm straight.

>>3205967
not him, but considering only what's been said, i believe you. i see no reason not to.

it's different here because, being a furry is only being a fan of anthropomorphic creatures. sexual orientation is your sex vs. what arouses you.

It is, on paper, possible for one to like the aesthetic of something or create content of that something only for dosh while not actually being sexually-aroused by that something. It is, however, not possible for one to like the aesthetic of "furry" content without themselves being a furry.

basically, if you do something for dosh, you don't necessarily have to like it

if you do something because you like it, you don't necessarily have to be sexually-aroused by it - which means you aren't bound by terms contingent on one's finding that something sexually-arousing

if you do something because you like it... you like it, so you are defined by terms that define your liking that something...

>>3205109
Are there people like this? I always ask if I can post my commission to my gallery and stuff, and the artists are always fine with it.

>>3206365
Autism knows no limits

>>3206365
yeah pic related was related, what's worse idf rushed in and most of them fellow artist think he's right.

Buyer beware majority of artist on FA are this retarded know your rights

>http://artlawjournal.com/visual-art-ownership/


>what idiots actually believe

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/7610009/

>>3171698
Gill the panda famalama?

>>3192428
>Trades with strangers
I always wait for them to finish their half first,even more when their "reference"for the character is a half assed mspaint doodle and it's an obvious free porn beg, one of those guys got frustrated I didn't draw what he wanted for free so he ended up commissioning me.

>>3205109
>>3207746
I imagine commissioned work is like a child. You both put time and effort into making it, so what you can with it is shared.

>>3192713
>>3193240

Nice samefag

>It's an artist believes he owns ANYTHING he puts on the web episode

I'm still gonna share it, faggot :^)

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>>3212040
nope
have fun being retarded though

>>3212056
>immediately responding

Get a life, you loser. :^)

>>3212065
I'm already dead
look at the time on that clock
that should be indicative of what I have to do with my time

>>3211996
>I imagine commissioned work is like a child. You both put time and effort into making it, so what you can with it is shared.

i forget the term but the obvious analogy here would be paying a female to be impregnated, carry-out the pregnancy, then give birth to the young for you. Only, in the analogy, i doubt the term for this inherently involves payment.

not in the mood to question and propose posible conceivable moral denotations of the scenario the analogy was made for

>>3212075
Everyone's dead.

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Shits and giggles aside, what artists have actually clamped down on their own work either to erase it or to just keep it from getting circulated?

I know Crowchild doesn't screw around when it comes to his work getting uploaded. He's hired an outside company to shut down rips of his site where he finds them.

There was a really good Ed, Edd n Eddy artist on Deviantart a couple of years ago, but I think she either stopped liking the show or the fanbase annoyed her or something like that, so she deleted all her Ed stuff, and started uploading King Julien art (some of it was..."erotic" and "sexy") and she wondered why people were complaining.

Ugh

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>It's an "artist slowly stops doing regular commissions and mostly does YCH auctions" episode
A colored 1-character image from them is like $75, which is fine with me, but i'm not going to do any of this auction shit since people bid $250+ every time for a 1-character image with a few different clothing variations. Why spend way more money than i'd normally have to?

>>3205967
why you like to draw gay content? any reason? (only because monney?)

>>3216281
Because i enjoy drawing it a lot. It makes sense nobody believes I'm straight. My excuse is that I'm not gay because I draw my males exactly like how I draw females but instead add a cock and subtract boobs. They still look like women pretty much.

>it's an artist things that they own their work instead of owing it to me, the requester episode

>>3216370
So your boys are like femboys? I am mostly straight but some male furs are sexy too can I see your webpage art or fa? i'm curios

>>3216409
I mostly draw fatties though. And some other gross and questionable fetishes.

>>3216370
>My excuse is that I'm not gay because I draw my males exactly like how I draw females but instead add a cock and subtract boobs. They still look like women pretty much.

imo if it is definitively male and you're sexually-aroused by it you're gay to me.

so the body otherwise might be female in practice, but i consider sex to be "gay" sex if the genitalia is male.

it is not a distinction i care to propose for anyone but my friends to help them understand how i see things but, just giving my two cents

>>3216432
dont be afraid, this is trash put your art webpage if you want

>>3216518
I completely understand what you're saying. I don't think I'd have sex with a real guy though. I only like drawing fantasy femboys. I don't really consider anything gay unless it's something real life. But this could just be denial.

>>3216525
Here ya go.
http://nokemop.tumblr.com/
https://inkbunny.net/Nokemop
http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/nokemop/

>>3216621
>that alphys
oooooh

>>3216658
Ha. You can ignore that. I just had an idea that alphys would be a type of girl wouldn't have a stereotypically attractive body type. More of body type experimentation than anything. I don't always draw her like that.

>>3216621
I like the saggy meatty style you have, also I remember you for your saggy milf plant, is sad to see this kind of breast dont have more love, they are very playful and fun to see how they move in doggystyle

>>3216621
Is this one of those "Total homo online, but absolutely straight" things?

>>3216621
>I don't really consider anything gay unless it's something real life. But this could just be denial.

i kinda agree, but less so about the real life v. fantasy distinction, and more about human v. otherwise.

because, when a human asks if you're "gay", they're asking if you're sexually-aroused by humans of the same sex as you. So, even if one were to want to find male dogs and horses and dolphins and the like hot, it would be irrelevant, since the sexual orientation distinction is- by default- bound to humans. So one might answer truthfully if they didn't care for social norms or consequence, "no, but I am gay for dogs, dolphins, and other animals"... it is as a sub-sexual orientation besides your main one of human attraction.

but obviously 2D and fantasy are not necessarily the same as 3D or each-other. But, i still feel sympathy can be "gay" if it is same-sex, no matter the species

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>>3216716
Thanks man. I wasn't actually into that kind of thing before. But it's fun to draw now.

>>3216719
So far yes. I've never met a guy that has turned me on irl.

>>3216726
by the way, in hindsight i was confused and ess agreeing with you after-all...

like, if someone asks if you're gay, they're asking if you like 3D humans of the same sex as you

but i consider sympathy "gay" only if it is sexual gratification roused from proerties definitive of the same sex.... instead of the "3D and human" prerequisite in speech

>>3216796
lovely milf face (maybe the saggy is too much saggy this time) XP I can imagine using her tits as a scarf!

Man, you should try to draw Trish at least once with your style we can have something interesting

>>3216895
>XP
Is this summer already?

>>3216796
I know that feel, and I know a few others like that. You just have to chalk it up to the whole fantasy and freedom aspect of it.

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>>3216895
A saggy boobed Trish? sounds like a hot idea to draw. Or just a normal fat girl. I'd like either one.

>>3216872
Yes, I'm only "non-3D human gay", if that makes sense.

>>3216917
not him but fuck off

you aren't mantaining the integrity of anything by comdemning emoticon usage on 4ch in this day and age where people drop "bait" image macros and call people "autistic" and do literally nothing else in the face of stuff they don't like.

ignoring the fact that your masturbatory post of expressing your having been triggered by his expression is no valid argument and is itself part of the circlejerk that makes modern 4chan shit, the entire purpose of comdening emoticons on 4chan was because it was exclusively unnecessary since speech is not as capricious as it would be in a chatroom where instant expressions in frenzy are normal. Here, you format posts and submit entire sequences of thought, so it is less sheer emotion, and more stuff saturated with the poetry of your personal type of whimsy.

It's not about connotation or anything; it is just redundant; it is just logic. it wss never about bullying becsuse people have yet to conform; to was about conforming and striving to conform to the archetype that made the most sense

but, yes, continue shallowly-accusing people of being summerfags for either not caring for maintaining their integrity in their expression anymore since 4chan is shit, or not knowing of how and why people used to act the way they once did. you help no one, and your words are worthless, but you may make yourself feel better about yourself in your having said it, which you may tell yourself is smth, i guess.

>>3216953
no need to be super saggy, just a little bit, I like to see Trish drawed with different artist, Is interesting to see their vision of her

>>3217048
Is this post real life?

>>3217052
>no need to be super saggy
Yeah, I've been going overboard with it. For other people's tastes at least. I'll only do a little this time then.

>>3217101

Ironically, that post is autistic bait and probably copypasta.

But props to him for looking it up and ctrl-c'ing and ctrl-v'ing it.

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>>3217048
Oh it's summer alright.

>>3217214
oh but dont contain yourself, it's your style! what matters is you make your own interpretation of her, be free to do her as you desire

>>3217217
well >>3216917 message is also silly

>>3193725
I'll be doing this on my FA page once I get back in.


I'll make sure to give my watchers a 2 week heads up before I do though. I know the pain of losing artists due to the moralfaggotry of others.

>>3218024
>I'll be doing this on my FA page once I get back in.
Why?

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>it's a daily "Wacom pen has strayed into the abyss" episode

I may as will stick it up my asshole at this point.

>>3218024
why you want to erase your art? seriously, why?

also you are >>3216796 ?

>>3205967
You don't get to decide what's gay or straight. It's a construct devised by society. You're gay because you draw gay porn. Anyone that doesn't know you will say that. Just accept it, it's a label that you can easily stop by not drawing gay porn.

>>3218133
I've got my shit locked in a case when I'm not using it.

>>3218260
Same, except I keep it in the box I got it in.

>it's an "artist uploads pateron paywall porn to boorus and it's all garbage fetish porn" episode
>it's an "artist fans shill and whiteknight for the artist because uploading censored paywall porn on boorus is somehow justified" episode
>it's an "artist is a moderator/admin on a booru and regularly shits on the site whenever they upload art because no one will do anything about it" episode

>>3218232
Because I ended up getting hacked and shit, drawing weird porn just isn't worth the drama.

And no, I like real life twinks.

>>3218465
What drama? where is your art gallery?

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>>3218465
>drama
please tell me more

>>3218465
hacked by a crazy fan? like someone who hacked you because he/she was mad with you? or just a random hack?

I need to admit there is a lot of autism in some places...

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>>3218465
>trusting FA
>EVER

>>3218465
Can we at least see your art before you destroy everything?

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>>3216265
>YCH auctions
These piss me off so much, especially with how many artists rely on them. They're so lazy, and you basically can't win unless you're an autist with the time and money to watch the bidding war like a fucking hawk.

Pic-related, some sperglord paid literally OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS for this shit.

>>3149022
Name ONE artist this remotely happened to.

>It's an elusively straight artist switches to flooding your feed with gay porn and never producing anything good again episode.

>it's an "artist you liked who drew GOAT-tier gay porn, then took a screaming left turn into cuckolding, incest, and pedophilia and won't stop" episode

Can anyone guess the artist

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>>3219533
>incest and pedophilia is bad

>>3219533
Adam?

>>3216953
So YOU were the guy that made big saggy tits rise to my top 10 fetishes. ...Whats the biggest saggy tits youve done, master?

>>3219533
>then took a screaming left turn into cuckolding, incest, and pedophilia and won't stop" episode
No but if they do straight shit (mother and son or female cubs cheating on their boyfriends) they are getting an instant follow.

>>3219533
was it that sashabelle faggot? I don't know the gay porn artist that well.

>>3219631
I think that vileplume is the one with the biggest and saggiest boobs so far. I'm glad it's one of your top fetishes now.

>>3216796
>>3216621

Oh shit, you're the guy who drew that R63 Delete and Timburr booty

>>3219533
Sounds like a lateral transition to me.

>>3218642
What do Wolfy-Nail's auctions usually start at? Pretty sure that Slug's start around $100.

>>3220034
Yup. I've kinda been spamming my art here.

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>it's a "can't participate in the stream raffle because of real life obligations or loss of internet connection" episode

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ITT

>>3220226
Only Patreons I support are those who use it as a tip jar and come out hard against censorship or lowering the fidelity of their work behind pay walls. (E.G gating high resolution versions, slapping huge logos on shit, or delaying free versions). People like Mitsies get paid.

The rest can fall to irrelevance and greed in an increasingly saturated field for all I care

>>3219569
>>3220088
these
I don't care for those fetishes but faggots whining when an artist does art of things they don't like and think they're justified in whining are retarded

>artist draws nothing but ponyshit

>anon doesn't understand artists like things they don't

>>3219533
>pedophilia
Adam fucking Won aka Zaush

>artist backs up his art on several sites according to their policies
>isn't opposed to art archival and distribution
>the art itself is top notch
>overall well-adjusted and sane online behaviour
Apostle is, well, an apostle. Why can't more artist be like him?

I love it when an artist only wants "controlled exposure" of their art, and then wonder why nobody's commissioning or noticing them.

>>3225129
I don't get the mentality behind controlled exposure shit either
why wouldn't you want your stuff seen by the most people possible? just put a unobtrusive, readable signature on that shit with a link to your gallery and you're good.

>>3215990
sad thing is, crowchilds been working on HTH for how long now? And has improved in quality how much?

hahah

>>3226233
Crowchild never wanted to improve on his work, it's been a rolling moneytrap for a decade. People keep paying into it too, even after he took preorders for like 4 DVDs he never made.

What can I do to get more commissions? I don't want to start dumping my shit everywhere because then I look like a desperate spammer.

>>3226233
His quality has actually decreased desu. He rushes to get by with as little effort as possible to get paid.

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>>3200117
>>3200203
Did somebody say Christian furries?

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sketch_Dalmatian

>>3226185

And hell, this isn't even the 90s/00s anymore, it's not like if your shit wasn't watermarked nobody could find you without someone recognizing your style, literally anyone can reverse googlesearch your shit up with one click these days

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>>3228108

Its like an actual downgrade

>>3233130
to be fair, they can't reverse image search for FA pages

>>3233143
Jesus, how does this even happen

>burps

>>3233143
I dunno, I like the face and detail better on the recent one more

>>3212065
> telling somebody to get a life
> on trash

I dont think I've seen something so pathetic in my life.

>>3192428
>before introducing the paywall
A lot of these artists were around long before the paywall

>>3219533
Wan 100%

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>It's a "your fetish is always combined with another fetish and you don't like it" episode

honestly I favor the artist in 99% of these discussions

wanting to make money off of your work isn't a bad thing and patreon's "pay first" policy will close the gap on this (along with sexyfur-style watermarks)

if people actually bought art from artists on a regular basis they wouldn't be forced to resort to such jewish measures

deal with it

>>3236586
>if people actually bought art from artists on a regular basis

yeah theyre called commissions and they're the keystone of the fandom

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>>3236586
Nice whiteknighting, I bet they'll make free shit for you because of the effort.

>>3236586
Some artists don't want to draw for other people, even for money, so they start a Patreon so they can still get money while only drawing what they want. and some artists just set their prices so high that most commissioners will skip them.

>>3236740
I get nothing for speaking the truth, as usual

face it, artists are going to be using paywalls and DRM in the future as a common thing

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>>3236803
alright then, tell me how's that okay
then tell me how is you whiteknighting that going to do anything about it

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>>3236828
Not him, but art isn't all that respected as a profession. It can be hard to make a living off of it. I'll never knock an artist for wanting to make money from their work. But there's a right way to go about it. I, personally would never lock things that were previously free behind a paywall, but instead, offer something more than before.

>>3236903
Drawing is a craft before it's an art. Most of the successful "artists" are craftsmen. Sometimes they also are tools.
Whether scamming people out of their money in fair, unfair or derogatory ways can be considered an art, is an open question.

>>3224976
>tfw you find an artist you love because they're quick, cheap, professional, and actually fun to be around
>they'll never be super popular because they refuse to do porn

Seriously there's one who's fucking spoiled me to the point I don't like commissioning anyone else.

>>3239575
>wants an artist to be popular
>doesn't namedrop
What a nig.

>>3233143
>there's actually less showing than before
Didn't know cropping counts as updating

>>3219533
>liking gay shit
>doesn't like shota
>doesn't like incest

kill yourself homo

>artist you really like quit/retires from drawing

*crys*

>>3245409
>not liking everything
top pleb
>>3245513
I know this feel too well
>they take their really attractive characters with them too
fug

>>3228102
kys

>>3250877
rude

>>3247222
>not liking everything except edgy, obscure fetishes for muh e-peen
FTFY, agreed with you though

>>3218133
>wacom pen sticks when i pick it up so it traces tiny lines everywhere
>buying a new pen is like $60
why don't i just buy a new fucking tablet then

>>3251875
less e-peen and more maximization of pleasure m80
being into weird shit increases potentially arousing porn tenfold

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>>3236545
I experience that too often

>>3194274
>>3196102
Wait sunibee deleted art? I get plenty on rule34/e621.

>>3256459
I think they're talking about him wiping his FA
he leaves it up everywhere else though and the archive on tor has all of his FA stuff anyway, so he's not a very good example of that

>>3256735
But he's always brought up when people complain about that type of thing. It's like everyone wants to shit on sunibee for some reason.

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>>3256735
>people caring about FA in the first place

>>3256783
Pretty sure he confirmed himself on /trash/ that he only wipes his stuff on FA and it's the morons thinking that it's the only furry porn site on the internet.

>>3256783
whenever an artist gets popular there's going to be people who do that no matter what
I don't keep up with his stuff so I couldn't say if he's done anything to deserve it, but as I said it's just inaccurate to say he takes his stuff down when all he did was take his FA down
I'm pretty sure he's even aware his stuff is on said archive and doesn't mind

>still caring about FA

>>3233143

That seems more like an improvement. Going for softer colors than hard lines and gradients.

>>3236586

This. Whining about what an artist does when you aren't helping the artist at all is just whining that you didnr get free stuff and now there is exclusivity when they aren't catering to you. It's fine to complain but faggots got to learn that if you aren't giving something to an artist then you have nothing to take away from them.

Paetron aren't automatic. There are people behind these donations. This should be an easy concept to grasp for this site.

>>3236586
>>3261609
>it's an "anons whiteknight for artists with shitty behavior" episode

>artist refuses to take requests or commissions

>>3261744
What's wrong with doing things out of [spoiler]love?

>>3261692
>it's an "anon puts a meme arrow in front of a statement rather than saying anything meaningful" episode

>>3262123
>it's an "anon gets buttmad after hearing the truth" episode
Don't you have some shitty artist's patreon to donate to?

>>3262403
I don't donate to any patreons, nor have I ever even paid an artist to do anything for me. What I'm saying is that the one (now two) posts I know you've made are unintelligent shitposts that don't prove anything. Even if I agreed with the point you're after I would still say that.

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I think the message that this thread is trying to say, what it wants to express is that we like artists and their work. When an artist pulls camp and deletes his work that it feels like a sort of betrayal in that what we know of the artist is removed like they are going away.

And I think the thing is that we need to admit that makes us feel sad. If it wasn't something we cared about we wouldn't even have noticed. And then anger is used as a defense against this abandonment.

Can you admit that, anons? That this makes you feel sad?

>>3265762
You tell me anon

>>3265762
I'm sorry for deleting my accounts. I have done it about 6 times now.

There are reasons....

>It's an "Artist you like had an awesome porn character but then got desperate for money and sold her, now she just gathers dust in some nobody's adoptables folder" episode.

>>3204010
You mean the /authorize link? Doesn't work for me

>it's an "artist treats the gallery site's tag system like a joke so their art is unsearchable" episode

>>3236586
I will just (VERY EASILY) pirate your pretty pictures and give patronage to someone I agree with in philosophy like Mittsies.

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>>3269592
>>3272210

>>3272210
>It's a "Site has never implemented user tags even though they'd solve that problem neatly" episode

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>it's an "artist suddenly takes commissions but finds they can't be assed enough to do the images and then runs off and creates account after account trying to hide from the people who want their money back while not even changing their 'unique' artstyle" episode

>>3269592
Can't other artist draw the character though?

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>>3273835
I'm fucking sorry.

>>3216621
so, uhh...
the only img i liked so far was the digivolved fennekin gape one

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>>3276592
Then I suppose this ride is too intense for you. Go on back to your little bunny hop coaster now.

>>3272210

FUCK TUMBLR

>>3265809
I think an explanation is in order

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>I'm streaming!
>I'm streaming!
>I'm streaming!
>I'm streaming!
>I'm streaming!
THEN WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE RESULTS YOU IMPOTENT WANKER

>>3273921
Whoever said it was an artist who bought the character?

I've seen this happen more than a few times. Half the time it's some weird non-artist char collector who snaffles up the character and then never ever touches them again.

>>3276592
I can't appeal to everybody.

>>3159372
>its a people don't realize you can subscribe to a person's patreon, download their content, then unsubscribe without paying anything as many times as they want episode

>>3218642
>fursona that literally warns you it will give you cancer

>>3272210
So many pieces on FA are tagged "blah blah blah i haet tags" or some variation of such... or simply not tagged at all. Lazy fuckers. I bet they whinge about nobody ever looking at their art, too.

>>3284466
They're changing that. It's only been rolled out to a few users so far, but you can opt in so that when someone pledges, they're charged immediately, and are charged when they change their pledge amount.

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I've seen many posts about how ych auctions are lazy and such, i've always tried to avoid that by accepting any kind of bodytype or species instead of just pasting the colors of the character over the base.
tldr; is pic related acceptable?

>>3286253
Superior.

>>3216621
>nokemop
>found your shit for the first time a few days ago
>thought some of it was pretty good
nice dude

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>>3272210
This should be a felony. You should go hang out with all the murderers and kiddie fiddlers if you do this.

>>3272210
>be me
>buy some slightly fetishy material
>upload to my FA with some proper tagging because im an autist about these things
>get a good amount of favs and shit
i seriously dont get why people dont tag their uploads

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>it's a "character you like suddenly get's a shitload of new content, but most of it features some random furry OC as well" episode

>It's a "artist draws all my favourite fetishes and also owns my favourite character but never draws that particular character in anything but vanilla softcore" episode

>>3289253
>it's an "artist finally draws kinky lewds of said character and gets more and more fetishey but falls off the face of the planet right as they're about to get to the perfect level of extremity with it" episode

>>3289320
who was it?

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>>3292950
kentarokun
I guess for his stuff it was less "finally draws kinky lewds" and more "finally starts drawing slightly kinkier lewds than he was previously while also rapidly improving his art"
this character is still the closest I've ever had to a husbando desu

>>3255525
Poor fool. Having fetishes period limits your scope. You have less to enjoy whilst the fetish free have more. Infusing yourself from the shackles of mediocrity and embrace the unfathomable sea.

>>3293203
how do the fetish free have more? I can enjoy both the fetish material I like and normal porn, and I can also explore new fetishes or more creative ideas within fetishes I already have.

>>3293133
He's a cute, got any more?

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>>3294010
depends on how much you like thicc and kinky shit
[spoiler]most of his art is pretty tame though[/spoiler]

>>3294775
>thicc and kinky
Sounds good to me

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>>3295106
this is the only other pic I have right now, will post more later if I remember

>>3283348
No I mean any other artist who isn't the one that bought it. I mean what are they gonna do? "I am going to sue you for drawing MY character!"?

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"its a "artist's art looks nice in a thumbnail but looks kind of awful in full resolution" episode

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It hurts a deep place inside me knowing the amount of art thats been completely wiped from the face of the internet through paywalling, full scale page deletes, and DNP's. I advently save anything I come across knowing full well its gonna get nuked someday. And it hurts even more when im proved right so often

>>3297529
It feels really bad when you know and remember art that existed at some point but can't be found anywhere.

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>>3297630
I give you one of the only relatively "normal" pics draw by DarthSuboru. who happily deleted his entire gallery and kept no copies. Ive found no other posts of this image anywhere.

>>3298014
Well, I can't say I'm not glad he tried to remove this shit completely.

>>3298171
good or bad, an artist shouldnt go nuking their own stuff. someone out there might enjoy it

>>3297207
Eh, would still fap to those funbags

>>3298014
Why did he ragequit?

>>3296943
Well to do that the character needs exposure, not being hidden away in someone's scraps folder.

Also a lot of artists in the furry fandom do not seem to be keen on drawing characters without permission.

>>3297207
Wew lad

>>3297207
i like dai butt he does some weird shit with his faces usually which puts me off

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>>3295106
the furaffinity archive is down right now and I can't find much more art of him for some reason, so try this at some later point in time if you want to see the artist's stuff
https://vj5pbopejlhcbz4n.onion.link/fa/kentarokun/

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>>3305149
and the only other one I can find right now is this
pretty much gave me my oviposition fetish desu

>>3305149
The archive isn't down. Its just a redirection loop that keeps you from reaching the actual page
This should work:
https://5sm2vp55n6cxly6z.onion.link/fa/kentarokun/

>>3305527
thanks mate, I'll find and post some more in a sec then
would you mind explaining what you mean by "redirection loop" though, and why that address works? I was using tor browser to try and access it so I figured that I had bypassed any issues other than the server itself being down or something.

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>>3305598
also I just tried that link and it doesn't work (sans the .link) on tor browser but loaded just fine on chrome, yet like a third of the links on it won't load
pretty odd

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>>3305865

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>>3305875

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>>3305892
not the same character but pretty similar
can't really find much more bar some more extreme inflation pics he did

>>3305865
Did you remove the https at the beginning? that tends to make the onion link fail in tor. and the links will fail on occasion. you just have to refresh

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>>3305935
thanks, removing the https worked for both issues

>>3297529

I know that feel

>>3216621
Do you do commissions?

>>3149022
>tfw you see your art posted by someone else

I love that feeling :3 Makes me feel special

>>3149022
>That episode where you follow an artist because you love the way they draw bodies or they have a great artstyle, but eventually they all just do hyper or give characters overly cartoony proportions/designs.

Jaeh and Kihuotter.

>>3314498
>jaeh
i feel you

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>>3314571
I subbed to him for stuff like this.

But every one image he makes like this, he posts 20 pictures of Bustybird or other hyper crap.

>>3313455
Not taking any more now since I have a couple I should already be working on. You can still pm me if you have an idea of what you want.

>>3314717
awww, pity. I did send you a pm though, it'll be nice to know when you are taking some more!