/TLHG/ The Loud House General Early morning thread editon

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A happy Luan is a cute Luan

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Hey everyone.

GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING, YOU TROGLOUDYTES

IT IS TIME TO RISE UP AND, LIKE THE SUN, BECOME GROSSLY INCANDESCENT

I CAN'T FATHOM WHY ANY OF YOU WOULD BE UP AT THIS HOUR, UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN UP SINCE YESTERDAY

IN ANY CASE, IT IS TIME TO LIVE OUT ANOTHER DAY IN OUR PATHETIC LIVES, WHETHER WE WANT TO OR NOT

BUT KEEP ON TRUCKING FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE DAY AND JOIN UP AGAIN LATER WHEN THE REAL COMFY HOURS HIT FOR A SMALL RESPITE FROM THE SUFFERING THAT IS LIFE

UNLESS YOU'RE LINCOLN

THEN YOU'RE GONNA SUFFER A BIT MORE

Is this comfy edition?

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lily

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Requesting a version of this with Lola in her underwear

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おはようみんな, 今日は、あなた がんばってね!

>>3101647
Don't come near me!

You remember what happened last time when you were a baby!!

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I want to smack Luna's perfect ass

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>>3101641
>best sister got the first post
about time

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>>3101668
It's a chill Friday morning, doesn't get much comfier than this. And only 10 more days until the next episode. Huzzah.

so if lincoln bought a slave on the dark web,what kind of girl would he buy?
also,what would he do to have her live with him in the house?
and how would he fool his family into being ok with it?

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I just watched space invaders and now I feel like the writer of the show are lurking these threads.

>>3101680
I don't think it would be comfortable, or offer much surface area desu.

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>>3101691
>implying he'd even buy a girl

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>>3101680
>dat filename

N E V E R

>>3101691
oh and also,would he buy a girl older or younger than him?

>>3101691
oh this reminds me,anyone got a working link to slave ship?(russian site on tor selling slaves)

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>>3101691
I don't think he'd buy a girl on the net when he has a selection of 9 delicious home-raised sisters to choose from.

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>>3101676
L-lily, are you ok?

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requesting Pacifica x Leni x Lori

>>3101756
she looks comfy as hell

>>3101683
I stil want this to be finished and it be a hate fuck picture.

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>>3101738
id just like to have some lilly soup

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Why can't Lincoln just enjoy what he's getting here?

>>3101787
you know that's got Lincoln's semen in it right? just saying, hope you like salt

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More innocent/casual nudity WHEN?

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>>3101756

心配しないでください にいさん, 私は単に快適です.
のりを食べないように覚えていてください。

>>3101801
Because he's a faggot cuck who doesn't want to bone his hot sisters.

>>3101801
"Come on!

Smile for the camera, son!"

>>3101801
Unlike his sister, Lincoln has not yet completely given in to his degenerate side. It feels great momentarily but he knows it's wrong and can't completely accept these fucked up feelings. Being Lincoln is hard, in more ways than one!

>>3101709
I love how that guy kept the filename I gave the image, I feel honored.

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>>3101801
Poor Linc is just confused he doesn't know if he should enjoy it or be weirded out because it his sister

>>3101823
well i can get why the japanese are into this show even before it gets aired in japan.
and i can understand,the whole situation lincoln is in is ripe for the lewd

>>3101801
>yfw imagining Lynn letting out a breathy "Lincoln" as she cuddles him.

>>3101822
That's not even casual nudity. Casual nudity would be them walking around nude in the hallway, and no one gives a shit.

>>3101838
Japanese Loud House Fanart = Big fucking tits

Only good can come from this.

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WHY DOES SHE WEAR THE MASK?

>>3101848
Technically it is casual nudity because they're showering together not giving a fuck about each other being naked

>>3101867
Because Lynn is a filthy baneposter in real life

Do you think there will be any drastic changes to the show in upcoming episodes?

Will it get more surreal and off-color?

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I want Luna to be my girlfriend!

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>>3101886
SHIT IN MY MOUTH YOU SLUT

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>>3101676

>>3101873
>Lynn is a filthy baneposter
no that would be Luan

>has a youtube channel with 50,000 followers
>obviously browses 4chan for the memes
>forces humor on everyone

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Brotherly Love update WHEN?

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>>3101941
>implying they don't take turns
Lincoln is always Bill Wilson for obvious reasons

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>>3101941
I think one thread we all agreed that Luan has one of the greatest dank meme collections

>>3101956
never ever

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man i wish there was more leni x lincoln fanart

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>>3101893
have some milk instead

>>3101993
>Pre-show debut porn
Haven't even looked at it since the show premiered

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>>3101993
>Before the show even aired some people were already calling one sibling best sibling
>Everyone thought it Luna was gonna be the most popular
>Turns its leni
>Luna has no personality
Fuck that time was great

Good morning, /tlhg/! How are you?

>>3102067
I am doing ok anon

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>>3102067
Just got off work and bought my beer for the weekend, not much else going on

>>3102046
>implying that time has gone

>>3101680
That's totally something Lincoln should do.

>>3102067
Still playing Monster Hunter, but I'm going to go to sleep here in a bit.

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Found this on tumblr, figured you guys would appreciate it

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>>3102067
Just got back from handing CVs around town. So fucking degrading. Other than that its been a good morning.

>>3102146
Anon I dont like this at all

>>3102146
Anon please stop
that's disgusting

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>>3102146
no sir, he doesn't like it

>>3102146
I'm more offended that he had to stuff in his self-insert oc too.

>>3102187
>self-insert oc
Hey, don't be mean to Luna!

>>3102146
I'd like it, if it was drawn better.

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>>3102161
What are CVs?

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>>3102243
Self made documents you give out to employers if they're looking to hire you, or just so you can get a foot in the door when they have vacancies. Do you not have these in the States?

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>>3101848
Then more of this please.

The Loud House needs to be a Nudist House.

>>3102259
>there will never be a spinoff called the Nude House
>it's the same but everyone is naked
End me famalan

>>3102256
They're called resumes over there.

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>>3102256
>>3102282
Yup, called resumes. Most places that I know of make you do it online now, unless it's a really small business then their hiring is usually less formal anyways

Alright /tlhg/ I'm off to bed. Have fun you guys.

>>3102295
Yeah forgot about that, my mistake. Either way its fucking impossible to get a job easily these days, more luck involved than qualification and experience.

>>3102332
I'm heading off to bed too
hopefully nothing weird happens when im sleeping

>>3102132
Like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0jVMIpqbrQ

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>>3102355
>mfw the only reason this scene happened is because Rihanna was allowed to properly smack Michael Cera as hard as she wanted

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sooooooo
is there a discord or nah? if so id like an invite
if not i'd be up for making one
i

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Anyone on Tox?

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I've been betrayed by my own fellow anons. Seems like I am the only one who protects Leni at the end.

At last, I wanted to keep her for myself :^)

A happy Leni is a cute Leni! (Late as Fuck Edition)

>>3101672
nice front bulge

is lily a futa?

>>3102146
>no farting
it's trash

>>3102386
https://discord.gg/0ymCZKXpKnEHxsrQ

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List of Deep & Edgy fic ideas. Let me know if I forgot any:

>Luna is a figment of Lincoln's Schizo mind, and the family keeps enabling it, though through the years it's more out of concern than anything. He finally snaps and gets sent to a loony bin.
>Alternate to the above: Lynn is frustrated with how the family treats the situation and dresses up like "Luna" to try and seduce Lincoln.
>Leni is actually a really nasty, abusive bitch, but is constantly doped out on meds, making her kind but staggeringly stupid. She runs out of/loses/forgets to take meds and becomes a bitch again.
>Lynn has a massive Yandere crush on Lincoln, possibly including Bobby's little sister for Lynn to be jealous of.
>Lana hating being Lola's twin which is what led to her becoming Lola's opposite, and becomes depressed how even that doesn't get her much of an entirely separate identity.
>Luan being horribly bullied in school due to her lame jokes, but tries to play it off like no big deal, but is really horribly depressed by it.
>Lynn gets Ewing's Sarcoma and has to learn to deal with the fact that her leg will need to be amputated to save her life.
>Or, even worse, Lynn somehow gets confined to a wheelchair permanently.
>Lincoln is the only one that actually remembers who Luna is, causing her to grow dangerously obsessed with him in the process.
>Feeling neglected by his family, Lincoln decides to leave home to locations unknown.
>Lola agrees to let a judge at a pageant molest/fuck her for his vote, which really fucks with her head and makes her fear Lincoln and Dad.
>Instead of being the kind lovable brother he is canon-wise, Lincoln is a juvenile delinquent.
>Luna develops a drug addiction following a concert with her friends.
>It turns out Bobby is abusive to Lori.

Lola bulimia fic when?

Lola BLACKD when?

>>3102146
Not thick enough.

Not impressed.

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>>3102670

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Gee, it sure is boring around here!

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Ssssshhh, she's sleeping

I want to cum inside ____

I want to cum inside ____

>>3102807
I want to snuggle up with her.

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>>3102810
>>3102811
All of them

>>3102810
Lynn
>>3102811
Lynn

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With the thread dead, now is the time for the Luna Empire to take over!

>>3102807
I'm sure she can't hear us
>HI THERE SPONGEBOB. MY NAME IS PAT-BACK

>>3102807
I think you could probably yell as much as you can because she sleeps with music on

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>>3102830
If you say so.

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Lynn knows how to keep her figure for Lincoln's pleasure.

>>3102830
I want to make her my girlfriend!

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>>3102807

>>3102907
>take a stage dive

>>3102874
That ass is fat.

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>>3102874
>filename: hey bro, spot me

>>3102907
Just cuddling, my dear.

>>3102835
What music do you think she falls asleep to? Probably corny power ballads.

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>>3102907
how about I shit on you and then you shit on me?

i think the loud house writers actually are visiting these threads https://twitter.com/TheLoudWriters/status/735964429959860225?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&refsrc=email

>>3102933
Lori's hypno tracks

>>3102933
Ironically enough, bossa nova jazz

>>3102945
They owe me money then.

>>3102576
Lola developing an eating disorder and Lana finding out.

>>3102945
They already did a patch adams gag, you retard.

Luan is for ______!

Luna is for ______!

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>tfw no qt punk gf

>>3102983
sexual

ignoring

>>3102983
Sexual.

Cuddling.

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>>3102993
>>3102990
>>3102984
>>3102983
>>3102933
>>3102930
>>3102907
>>3102830
>>3102815
>>3102807

LUNAFAGS LEAVE

>>3103001
Sieg heil n00b go to hell and fuck your mother.

>>3103001
you quoted me on accident

please edit your post and give me an upvote

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>>3101673
This.

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>>3103001
Aww, don't be that way.

>>3102980
Lana has a vomit fetish and is either conflicted on whether to get her to stop or satisfy her own kink or they both too young to know the dangers of what Lola is doing and just keep going.

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>>3103032
Well, you kinda had it coming

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>Luna is walking home from school because Lori and the others forgot to wait for her. Again.
>It's been a good 2 hours since she started but she's nowhere close to home. Why even bother going back when no one remembers you made it back safe?
>She eventually makes it home to see Lincoln on the porch. At the sight of Luna he smiles and waves at her.
>"Luna, there you are. Where have you been, I was starting to think something bad happened to you."
>Luna is shocked. "You were thinking about me..."
>"Of course I was. What type of brother would I be if I wasn't worried about my big sister?"
>With that Luna completely loses it and falls into Lincoln's arms crying like a madwoman.
>"Oh Lincoln you're such a good boy, you're the only good one left, the only one that matters!"
>Lincoln is completely confused but accepts the hug anyway.
>From then on Luna only talks to Lincoln and spends her time writing songs about how great Lincoln is and how important brotherly love is in a woman's life.
>Lincoln humors Luna like he does his other sister's but is still freaked out by how whenever he goes to hear her play she only sings love ballads.

>>3103053
>just finished jerking it to the vomit doujin an anon linked
>first time I've ever felt disgusted after
I need more

>>3102983

sexual

lighting

>>3103070
Lana being a good sister and helping her out.

Holding her hair back, helping her hide/dispose of the buckets/baggies full of vomit, etc.

>>3103070
>vomit doujin
l i n k

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>>3103069
>tfw continuation never ever

>>3103115
http://exhentai.org/g/747163/4aa4913f03/
>even has front teeth missing

>>3103146
THANK YOU

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Why is Lynn so Lewd?

Lana helping Lola puke backstage before a pageant.

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>>3103232
She wants the Lincoln log

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>>3102146

Yuck. It's a matter of execution, and the execution is... not good.

>>3103279
Fetishist is shit and no amount of talent can make it not shit, just easier to look at.

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I wanna grope their delicious flat chests.

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>>3103287

I don't know, man. I've read about people who wrote that they weren't into fat or anthro, then I'd post something and alakazam! Suddenly a few people were going "shit, this is actually kinda nice". Not that I'm actively trying to convert people, it's just way more satisfying when you have someone to win over than to have someone or some crowd built-in that goes "OMG your work is amazing"!

>>3103321
Eh, I'm not ever going to like anything larger than chubby but your work is very nice to look at. Just personal hangups regarding seeing several people I love destroy themselves and everyone else being fine with it. But art is art and life is life.

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?

Lana sees Lola looking herself over in the full length mirror. Lola lifts up her dress and inspects her body. Lana can see Lola's bones and concave tummy.

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>>3103371
>/co/

>>3103397
We need a fic of this

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>>3103371
I want to screw in that lamp's lightbulb
also
>/co/

>>3103419
Lana actively encouraging Lola to lose more weight to fulfill her deviant desires.

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>>3103416
>>3103449
I saw this posted on /co/, thought it came from here

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>>3103001
Fuck off Heretic.

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>>3103371
>/co/

you shitty shitty little man.

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>Leni will never mow your lawn

>>3103451
Or she begins to force feed Lola in order to both save her and increase the amount of vomit she can play with.

Lily sees Lola making herself puke and starts copying her.

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>>3103495
Sounds good to me

>>3103495
I love how everyone is just watching outside expecting her to fuck up something

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I'm still hoping that drug addict Luna idea gets expanded

>>3103522
And I'm hoping Lincoln would comfort a sad Luna.

>>3103499
Or brings food to their room that she pretends is meant for herself, tempts her with it, then teases her after she caves in and scarfs it down.

>>3103534
Why not combine the two?

>>3097890

Late to reply, but I'm the one who requested it and wanted to say thanks.

That was damn cute, and Leni's stupidity here as hilarious.

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Requesting a fic where Lynn tries to seduce Lincoln over time.

At first he's like "What the fuck, we're siblings!"

But over time he becomes attracted and in love with Lynn and gives in.

Lewd or not lewd, I don't really care.

Anyone have the autism levels pic

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>>3103593

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>>3103593

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>>3103522
>needles
>drugs
I see her more like Bob

>>3101867

>>3101873
Wish this didnt fucking make me laugh so hard then anything else in this fucking thread

>>3101867
Okay, so if Lynn is Bane, and Luan is Joker...what about the other sisters?

Lisa: Hugo Strange: Both mad scientists.

Lola and Lana: Tweedledum and Tweedledee for obvious reasons.

Lucy: Scarecrow because spooky.

Leni: Poison Ivy because prettiness, I guess.

What about the rest of them?

>>3103467
ok now im certain many japanese visit this general here

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>>3101956
Patience anon, soon

>>3103537
>you will never bully a bulimic Lola

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>>3103630
I thought Lola was the joker

>>3103630
Lori is Gordon, Linc is bats.

Alternatively Linc could be CIA purely for the plane scene

>you're a big girl
>for you~

>>3103650
If she's the Joker, then who is Luan? Luan is all about the comedy, but Lola only had messy makeup for part of an episode.

>>3103661
Harley?

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>>3103659
Why doesn't Lincoln just rape Lynn?

>>3103659
B-But Anon, that's l-lewd...

Lana making subtle jabs at Lola's weight and/or eating habits when they're eating at the kiddie table.

Lola excuses herself to go to the bathroom, followed by Lana.

>>3103671
I suppose.

I guess that means Lana has to be Clayface because clay and mud are close enough, I guess.

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okay, imagine lori teaching all the girls how to kiss

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>>3103555

Anytime, glad you liked it!

>>3103673
You can't rape the willing.

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>>3103673
Gordon, we've already been through this

>>3103683
You better compile all these ideas into a pastebin or something for future reference

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>>3103630
Leni is Crazy Quilt because they both like fashion and also they are both retarded

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>>3103690
Oy, hold your horses there anon

>>3103647
Lola frustrated that she can't seem to get rid of the fat in her butt.

>>3103701
Someone had better make them all into a story, too.

>>3103703
why must you remind of this fucking aborted failure of a villain

>>3103701
Fanfic or art when?

>>3103674
Lynn crashed Lincoln's plane with no survivors~

>>3103703
Yes, perfect.

I guess Lily is Baby Face, because I can't think of anyone else that fits her.

What about Luna, any sound-based villains in Batman?

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>>3103731
Tweedledum and Tweedledee are shit villains too, Lola and Lana could have been pic related

>>3103764
A lot of the good villains just don't fit with the sisters, that's all.

And yeah, I totally forgot about those two.

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>>3103763
>What about Luna, any sound-based villains in Batman?
Livewire, she was a dj before also both perform music

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>>3103763
Music Meister is the only musical batman villain, maybe Luna could be catwoman or something?

>>3103781
>>3103780
Oh geez, so hard to pick.

Livewire is a girl, but Music Meister is such a good villain...

>>3103792
why not both? Livewire's looks and Music Meister's powers

>>3103816
That works, especially since I looked it up and apparently Livewire is Superman.

That other Anon CHEATED.

Batman shitposting aside, glad i found this trash thread, really digging the show.

>>3103832
she hardly even shows up fighting him anymore, shes like a villain bicycle

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>>3103832
shit, i was the guy who suggested Livewire i remember she collaborated with Poison Ivy and Harley before

TF2 LOUD HOUSE CROSS OVER ART

FUCKING

WHEN

Now I just want art of Luna dressed as Livewire

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>>3103261
she's already dry humping his head

>>3103892
>Dry

>>3103861
Crossover ep, its fine anon honest mistake

>>3103602
Kek

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>>3103602

>>3103924
Can confirm, have autism

>>3103892
hm,if lincoln got a hold of the bible black,who would he use it on?

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>>3103945
>bible black
ah yes, my first tentacle porn

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>>3103416
>>3103419
>>3103449
>>3103467
seriously tho, I saved this from /co/ after not checking 4chan for a day, was it from here and did it someone write /co/ over it or something?

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>>3103974

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>>3103990

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>>3103992

>>3103864
There's a Spy Lucy somewhere on the Booru Anon

i'm taking some /u/ related drawing requests.
which sisters do you wanna see kiss?

>>3104019
Lily and Lori or Leni

>>3103555
pretty cute

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I really want to just snuggle up with Luna and get comfy, but I can't! Uggh, I'm not feeling good at all.

>>3104037
Don't worry anon, things will get better.
Maybe

>>3104037
Aren't you a little old for night-lights?

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>>3104028
a-are you sure anon?

is luna voiced by suzie from rugrats or is that all in my ears

>>3103974
I don't recall see this on /trash/ before

>>3104091
no, its adam lyon

>>3104037
You could meet her on your personal heaven

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>>3104060

>>3104019
Lola and Lori

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>>3104082
You know you want it too
Now lets see some baby tongue

>>3104108
Are you lion?

>>3104019
Luan and Luna

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>>3104108
sorry i asked.

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>>3104122
I-is this really happening?

>>3104133
this

You walk in on Lola making herself puke into a bucket, candy wrappers all over the floor.

What do?

>>3104170
Lick it

>>3104170
Eat it

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>>3104170
Fug it

>>3104170
feel over conflicted most likely anon

>>3104170
Give her a hug, tell her that it's ok I'll clean this up. And send her to her room

Then eat the vomit

>>3104082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btCKtQmN49w

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>>3104170
rub it all over my body and trigger my mating call

>>3104170
Tell her to go brush her goddamn teeth and use extra mouthwash, and that if she wants to puke so bad i'll give her a reason to puke

>>3104019
Mom and any of the sisters

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>>3103777

>Not picking Mas y Menos.

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WAIT!

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>>3104258

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>>3104230
>mating call
?

>>3104137
She also voiced Dogan from Psychonauts. (kid with the tin foil hat)

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>>3104273
What?

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>>3104276
You got a problem with that anon

>>3104258
B-But the face

>>3104272
But they aren't villains, are they?

You peek through Lori and Leni's room to see them twerking in booty shorts for some goofy viral video

What do you do?

>>3104316
Women have two sets of lips you know

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>>3104276
suck a dick eddy

>>3104328
Go rape Lola

>>3104303
no face. He could do a post kiss pic with a saliva trail leading leading from the sisters' lips to the moms off panel or from behind

>>3104328
Close the door and head down the hall to Lilncoln's room

>>3104328
Pretend I didn't see it and look at some eye bleach sites

>>3104321

Oh we talking Villains? My bad I thought DC characters.

how about these two retards.

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>>3104349

forgot my pic

>>3104342
>>3104335

>>3104335
Tell me more about the....2nd pair please...

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>>3104344
W-what are you gonna do?

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>>3104273
I'll wait her for whatever she needs, no matter what. <3

>>3104369
The lips between the hips.

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>>3104337
KEVIIIIIIIIIIIIN

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>>3104273
MY DIAPER NEEDS A CHANGE ANON!!!

>>3104387
Dumb eddyposter

>>3104382
I'm going to make him a peanut butter and sauerkraut sandwich

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>>3104382
Fuck him in the ass

>>3104356
>>3104349
Well, that was at least the theme I was going with.

Though Linc and Lori are Batman and Gordon.

And perhaps, yeah. Though people like the idea of Lola as The Joker thanks to Undie Pressure.

I never realized there were so many twin villains in DC.

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>>3104420
A sandwich does sound nice. Glad someone's willing to make him a sandwich

>>3104432
.... oh.

>>3104432
Lincoln truly is the best shota

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>>3104413
Let's not fight anymore

>>3104328
unzip my dick right there

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>>3104493
>>3104413
>>3104387
fuck yourselves

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>>3104500
Don't let her escape anon!

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>>3104523
Lily! What are you doing?!

>>3104523
She's comfy there man, come on

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>>3104548
Stand aside rookie, I got this.

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here's something no one asked for

>>3104570
NOICE

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>>3104570

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>>3104570
Y E S S S S S S T H

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>>3104561
What are you going to do with Big bertha?

>>3104570
>Not Lily
>Have a 4 year old kissing a 17

Bro that's just wrong, If it was Lily then that would've been fine since she's 15 years old but this? Bro..

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>>3104570
Checkm8, Lenifags

>>3104617
this. lily is at least mature for that

>>3104570
I didn't know I wanted this until I saw it

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>>3104570
Damn

>>3104570
but ... Lisa is so ugly.

>>3104339
I'm sure Lola would appreciate being raped, as long as it's in the throat and makes her puke up her last meal.

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>>3104667
Stop that

>>3104667
>puke on dick
Not sure if want

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>>3104667
>wanting puke on your dick

>you will never be Lola's secret personal dietician

>>3104677
>>3104709
samefags leave.

>>3101844
i think that would be the breaking point for him, he would just say "fuck it, i'm very turned on now"

>>3104709
What are you, gay?

>>3104723
Come on man is not a common fetish. But I would be glad if Lola threw up on my dick

>>3104749
Rather have period blood than puke

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>>3104594
Ugh, she made a real mess in there this time...

>>3104723
I'm pretty sure >>3104677 likes it

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>>3104570
quick colored version before i go nap
see ya later, /tlhg/

>>3104652
no YOU'RE ugly

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>>3104767
I have a thing for green.

>>3104775
Are we just going to ignore that Lana has canonically a scat fetish?

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>>3104775
Oh boy, not again
>All of the Loud House is burning

>>3104799
At this rate, you may as well get yourself a bile phial
>heh

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>>3104837
I get it :^)

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>>3104857
I can't believe I just threw that up, but there was no way I could hold it down
Alright, I'm done now
[spoiler]OramI?[/spook]

So, we all agree that Lynn snatches all of Lincoln's clothes, then makes him do favors for her to get them back, right?

>>3104091
It's Olga Pataki. Or Lola Caricola.

>>3104914
Obviously. And the favours gradually increase in lewdness

>>3104958
And it's a favor for each and every article of clothing.

>>3104958
>it gets to the point that Lynn is asking him to perform cunnilingus on her.

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>>3104969
We must go lewder!

>>3104969
whoa dude whoa

she would never call it that

she'd just say something like "hey bro if you want your undies back all you gotta do is give me a kiss"

and lincoln would begrudgingly agree and go for the cheek but lynn would be all sly and say "i didn't say where you'd kiss me"

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>>3104969
at this point Lincoln is so into the game that he is the one offering it first

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>>3104793
Lisa is scientifically ugly. Its just a fact.no hard feelings

>>3104170
Grab her by the neck and embrace her in a deep kiss, sloshing my tongue around in her vomit-ridden mouth.

>>3104997
>>3104984
>>3104969
>>3104965
>>3104958
F-Fic when?