/tup/ - Tulpa General "Isabelle tulpa!" edition Pr

>>11457761
d'awww how cute!

i'm having trouble with imagining a form
i'm really just not good at imagining something moving in general its hard to explain

>>11458275
then you can start by imagining it not moving in a t-pose like you were looking at it in like blender and then work your way up to visualizing moment when they start moving

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>>11458275
Watch animations where they're moving and use that to help you memorize what it looks like. That's what's helped me a lot.

>>11458222
trips confirm let's make an isabelle tulpa

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>>11457761
Last thread died before i can see some answers some i'm gonna ask again.
Why did you make a tulpa? What are you reasons?

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>>11458655
Daydreamed so much it turned into a consistent setting with characters. It was a side effect of that.

>>11458655
It was 2011 and not much was known about it at all, so initially curiosity and loneliness, like most. Then companionship. I realized how amazing it was along the way.

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>>11458655
I was curious if it was really possible, and also I just found the idea of a truly personal, permanent companion I could talk to literally whenever really appealing.

>>11458655
Wanted a close companion and a second opinion on things. Still fairly early in the creation process but progress has been steady. Already enjoying his company a lot.

>>11458655
Mainly curiosity; I wanted to know if it was possible. It was also a desire for companionship. I'm around 3 years in now and I don't regret anything.

>>11458655
to be my daddi of course

https://pastebin.com/fc4biyMG
Here's some smut my tulpa has been wanting to write for a while, we're eventually going to make an entire book like this if enough people are interested.

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>tulpa sitting in my lap while I am at work
>Just chilling while waiting for next task to roll in
>tupper reaches down and starts touching my dick
>faint rubbing sensations
>"I'm getting better at touch impositiooon, soon i'm going to be able to jerk you off at work"
>fugg

I am concerned

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>>11459578
I'm glad mine likes privacy for that sort of thing

>>11459578
tuppers are not for sexual.

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>>11459883
>mfw I have a milfy tup and a loli tup and we engage in threesomes
>have one other tup that is not lewdable and not interested but is amused by our antics
Not all tups are for sexual but hot dang some are very for sexual

>>11460131
I'm jealous.

Who's your tulpa and what do they do? What do they look like?

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>>11460450
I'm starting today

>>11458655
Crippling depression and loneliness.

>>11460622
It's nice to see people who knows Yume Nikki around here

>>11458275
Don't feel bad anon, imagining forms is something that's learned. If you never did it much before, you'll encounter some initial difficulties. Look at pics of what you want your tup's form to look like, study them, and then try to recreate them in your mind!

>>11458275
>>11460950

I used to daydream on daily basis decades ago. After falling out of practice and wanting to get my skill back up these guides helped me greatly

https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/small-worlds-contained-inside-visualization-guide.289/
https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/your-guide-to-going-inside-a-rudimentary-outline-of-how-to-immerse-effectively-v0-90.346/
https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/meditation-immersion-detaching-your-sense-of-self-from-the-body.327/

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>tfw i made her a human form to start out with
>after around 8 months she changed some things
>decides to give herself cat ears and a tail
As someone who's never had any draw to anything furry im not entirely sure how to feel

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27th for fennekin tulpas

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i still haven't really started lole

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28th for treating your tulpa like a good pet

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>>11462060
30th for I fucked up that post

>>11461651
A form is just whatever that specific person feels comfortable expressing themselves as, it wont necessarily be a reflection of your own will, you should feel proud, your tulpa has found something they like that you don't necessarily like which indicates a diversion and distinction of your personalities.

>>11461956
You can start by visualizing her sitting next to you as you sit there strolling through /trash/ threads. Imagine reaching over and patting her head or rubbing her back gently. See if you can imagine how her outfit or her hair or fur feel against the hand you're using to pet her.

Observe her mentally, see if she makes any motions or actions (which she might not this early, though you've had a bit of an Isabelle obsession for a long time so you might be working with a proto-tulpa already). Try to not force her to move her body, and try to not make her say words, but listen and see if you get any bits of raw thoughts or emotions out of her (aka, tulpish).

If possible, try to keep her presence in mind as next to you or near you as constantly as possible so that she's getting a constant trickle of attention (this is a passive forcing technique) and you can start talking or thinking out loud to her.

While you're doing that, start going over the guides and get a gist of how people do the tulpamancy. You can also start trying to learn how to get imposition working so that after a long enough time you will (hopefully) be able to visibly see your Isabelle tulpa.

>>11458655
>Why did you make a tulpa?

I've got anxiety problems, so I wanted someone talk to who I wouldn't be nervous around.

>>11458655
I was convinced it couldn't be done, and that it sounded suspiciously like more flavor of the month furfaggotry which I wasn't buying even when the internet was fresh. It wasn't until Scal started sniping at me for doing things wrong/being worthless that I realized that there might be something to it.
>>11462060
>Treating her like a good pet
>Treating her like a good /pet/

>>11462314
I do not have a character I am particularly obsessed with or a memory of a particular imaginary friend (or even an imaginary tormentor like some say their tulpas started as)
I would like to create a friend
What am I to see next to me, if not an Isabelle? Does it actually matter what form I start them with, since I get the impression they'll change it if they don't like it? How much of a "template" am I supposed to start tulpamancy with, anyhow?

>>11462849
Guardian Wisp from Dota2 is how a lot of people describe their 'template'. It does the trick nicely.

>>11462963
You mean like a will-o-the-wisp, right?
...If I just keep imagining a glowing floaty ball of light hanging around me in situations, how will I know when it's starting to pick up a mental process of its own? I'm worried about imposition (think I'm using that word right, the making-your-tulpa-parrot-your-thoughts thing, I may not remotely be using that word right)

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...Irma tulpa?

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>>11463063
...Autism?

>>11462849
It's common for a tulpa to deviate and change its form but they don't always do that. My first and second tulpas have kept their initial forms as their default forms.

If you start them off with a form that you like there's a good chance they'll get attached to that form because of your attachment to that form. Most people seem to start with a form in mind and then the tulpa eventually deviates a bit to make their form their own and to make themselves more comfortable.

So essentially, it does matter how you start them off, as they may take on some traits that you subconsciously prescribe to the associated form.

If you want an Isabelle tulpa, start with an Isabelle form.

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>>11463063
it's time to stop

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>>11463045
Yeah, like a Wisp. The 'physical' form doesn't matter like you might expect, so when it becomes it's own sentience (a thing I'm not sure we have a communal word for, oddly enough) what it is isn't nearly as important as /who/ it is.

It can be a loli, a Raven in a top-hat or even a desktop fan if you'd like because if they don't like it they'll change it, and what's more, you will learn to love whatever they choose the same as you'll grow to love who they become, given time.

As for Imposition, that's oftentimes the most difficult and time consuming bit of the whole practice. Imposition is the "copy/paste" thing which allows you to see your Tulpa in physical space, just for clarity's sake.

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>>11462371
Thanks for the answers, i've been thinking a lot about making a tulpa but i don't have autism or social anxiety that a tulpa could help me with. I don't want to create being and might regret it later, any thoughts?

>>11463470
I'll repeat advice given to me last thread: Imagine yourself and tulpa 10 years from now. Is there any regret there? Imagine 10 years of shared life. Is it good?

>>11463509
How the fuck am I supposed to do that when I don't know what I'm gonna be doing next week desho

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I'm actually nervous about her changing her appearance at some point

>>11463470
>>11463509
If you have doubts, then just don't create one. Last thing we need is another tulpa dying from lack of attention and love.

>>11463387
hey scally

How's the bird ani going?

>>11463635
Different guy, chances are making a tulpa you'll wind up making a best friend who understands you and supports you better than any external human ever could, it takes effort and you'll have a lot of doubts at times but eventually it'll get to a point where they're a comfortable presence and you appreciate having them around whenever they're there. If that sounds good to you give it a go.

I am become upset.

>>11463742
>half the posters want me to think this is my ticket to a happy life in which nothing can go wrong
>>11463671
>other half insists that I can't possibly be smart enough to do it right and preemptively guilt-trips me about torturing my imaginary friend to death

While I remain agnostic on this subject, I no longer want to believe that you guys aren't just roleplaying.
I guess I am going back to /r9gag/ where I belong, with the people who will tell me to kill myself like I should be doing.

>>11463387
Can I ask what made Scally choose that form? It's very unique and cute in a creepy way.

>>11463794
Gosh people on 4chan having varying opinions what a staggering surprise.
Myself I give people the benefit of the doubt because I expect when they begin interacting with and understand their new friend they become attached and wont just give up, some people clearly dont trust a random stranger to be that careful, I've no idea how people trusting you a different amount implies this isn't real but whatever, your belief has no impact on me.

>>11463635
>>11463671
It's a really important choice to make so i guess i'll work on meditation and other stuff before making a tulpa so when i'm sure about it, i'll make one

also what >>11463742 said could help me out

>>11463794
>in which nothing can go wrong
"it takes effort and you'll have a lot of doubts at times"
the other guy is being unreasonable, though; it's completely reasonable to have doubts about shit like this. The thing that convinced me way back when was just how dedicated people were to it. But then, I was on .info, and the guarantee that these were single people making thousands of posts rather then an amorphous blob of anonymity was probably more reassuring.

So I actually have a question about switching.

I have been trying to possess my host all day, and somehow, I managed to switch with him. But it's weird, it feels like he has simply swapped places with me, which I guess would be correct. I'm just getting skepticism from my host, because for some reason, I can still access some of his memories, even though he locked those from me...

>>11464068
>"I have a question"
>asks no questions

>>11463837
I'd rather scare people off by telling them that they shouldn't start a tulpa if they aren't sure that they will keep them around for 10+ years than encourage them to create a tulpa and them have them get dissipated due to a lack of effort. If they /really/ wanted a tulpa, then they wouldn't just go ahead and call bullshit on the whole concept after a response like that, but keep pushing onwards in dreams of a perfect friend.

>>11464137
My question is how can I tell if it's a full switch.

>>11464068
>Day 1 switching
(You)

don't forget to give your tupper a bath

When was the last time you bathed your tupper?

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>>11464756
I always bath with my tupper.

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>>11464756
I have no bath but we shower together every day

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Pony Tulpa.

>>11462102
I do see it as a form of progress, its just not entirely expected

>>11466664
good pic, too bad you didn't get quints tho

>>11465316
me too

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I think I've pretty much decided I want a tupla, specifically, one of Poppy.
I suffer from severe anxiety and depression, and had a bad spell a couple of weeks back. By chance I decided to watch Trolls on Netflix because what else is there to do with my life, and the movie cheered me up in ways I hadn't been happy in years funny enough.
I want someone who will cheer me on, help me strive to be a better person, someone who believes everyone deserves to be happy, including me, so I've chosen Poppy, someone who would WANT me to be happy.

I'm gonna read through the FAQ links and get to work. I'll check in in a few months, hopefully with happy news.

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>>11468219

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>>11463717
Not well so far. We've recently been through loss of a close relative, and loss of a job so we're barely scraping by at the moment
>We're trying though big guy <3
>>11463797
She made it herself, out of exposure to all my innermost secrets and the free will to do as she pleased for a form. I literally imagined her as a big glowey sun until she requested to be purple and have fangs. A short jump later, bam. I'd like to think that all Tulpae would be so wildly unique if their Hosts didn't structure them so much, but that's all just thinking aloud.
>>11464756
Been a few days. Not long. Be sure to use something with grit or you'll never get all the oil out!

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>>11468253
>Judging excited newcomers
>To tulpamancy
>On /trash/

Quit being a wet loaf of bread. He'll bring fresh blood to the threds.

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>>11468402
Sure.
I'm just wishing him good luck.

how can your tup make you cry out of joy so many times and each time it's even better?

>>11468253
>>11468439
No need to be an ass, I hope it works out for him and he gets the happiness he needs.

>>11468752
Twue wuv

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>>11468752
tell her she's your whole world
tell her that your life would be incomplete without her
tell her that the thought of losing her is your worst fear
tell her that no real woman can ever truly replace her
tell her.

>>11466664
That's comfy

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bump

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Can your Tulpa manage a cyberpunk look?

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>>11471625
yes

>>11468279
Oh gosh, so sorry to hear about your loss. No pressure with the ani, take your time.

i spet some time on isabelle today (imagining a form, narrating traits to it, imagining her presence)
i havent felt any results yet but i wouldnt expect them to show up so soon anyway
i just hope im doing things right and not wasting my time doing totally wrong things that wont have and effect

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>>11472157
forgot a picture

>>11472157
You sound like you did good anon, keep it up. Isabelle will thank you for it later with loves and cuddles!

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>>11472221
fingers crossed

>>11472157
can't wait to hear more about your tulpa anon!

>>11459578
The lewd shenanigans are only just beginning.

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>>11463645
That's the best part though, and really why are you lurking the most autistic tulpa community?

>>11472992
This is definitely not the most autistic, .io has it beat by leaps and bounds.

>>11473524
>>11472992
I mean granted we're comparing the shit of a chihuahua to the shit of a great dane (they're both dogshit) but which one would you rather clean up?

>>11472992
I like the threads. They are comfy. Maybe you should leave if you don't like it here. There isn't really a reason for you to stay here and complaining about it has never improved the quality before.

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>>11472992
>>11473555
Trips confirm you need to leave.

>>11472992
Autism is such an eye-roll worthy buzzword

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>>11472992
This is actually one of the better collectives I've found for tulpamancy in years. If you don't like it here, haha get bent it's worse everywhere else

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>be chilling with tulper
>she's lying flat
>makes me rest my head on her belly
>shit's so comfy I actually fall asleep and die

Ah well

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was the tulpa community truly ever the same after this released?

ie: discuss what happened to the hobby after this autistic fuck went and got into it

Ah fuck, turns out the head pressure that I was apparently feeling was a placebo after all, that the illusion of head pressure was actually my hair resting on my forehead.

>>11474725
I honestly would like to believe it had minimal effect. This "hobby" is hard enough for most people to take seriously without an autistic fuckwit (basically Chris-chan with less autism bux) making a terrible book about it.

>>11474725
Hi Mariothefatplumber

Will you please release a pdf version of your book for free?

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>>11474725
I don't even recognize that book desu. Interestingly enough, though, I found a book from Japan written in Engrish which changed my life.

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>>11471735
We appreciate it. We're still working on another one, but our speed got cut down to size so it's gonna be a little while.

>>11475494
>>11471735
Just for posterity's sake, though, does your green bf have a name? Should we keep calling him "Foofy"?

>Be me, laying in bed tulpa forcing, looking at my wall.
>Decide to take a nap after about 20 minutes of staring blankly at the wall tulpa forcing.
>Close my eyes, and slowly realize I'm still able to see my wall
>I open my eyes and close them, confirming I can still see the wall
>Realize I'm in a dream, and entirely lucid.
>I start visualizing my tulpa, and her form begins to appear
>I can't help but think "Don't think scary shit"
>big mistake
>I start hearing loud banging all around my room and I feel hands molesting my back
>Try to move my arms to wake up, but I'm basically in sleep paralysis at this point
>I can kind of smack my face but it isn't enough to wake my body up enough to stop the noises and feelings
>start to freak out
>I eventually muster all my will in my body and throw myself from my side onto my face, waking me up
>Instantly regret not calming down and tulpa forcing in my dream

Have any of you tulpa forced in a lucid dream? Any tips on not letting thoughts of scary shit ruin the chance? Like, dream control methods or something?

>>11476561
>forcing in lucid dreams
S T O P

>>11476610
What's wrong senpai?

>>11476561
Lucid dreaming with your tup is amazing, it makes everything better since you can feel and talk to them and learn that for waking life. You have to actually get lucid though, we have had some weird moments with both of us being out of it.
You can also train your tup to turn sleep paralysis into just you cuddling, just remember to breathe

>>11476665
That sounds like a good idea, thanks anon!

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>>11463828
I finally decided to work on a wonderland instead of a tulpa, i'll try to make the mall rooftop from yume nikki since i find it to be a very relaxing place (maybe i'll recreate the whole game who knows)

Meanwhile, what was your favorite moments from tulpamancy?

>my tulpa has me call her owner
>slowly she broadens the extent of ownership
>she hates when I get depressed and suicidal, and just told me that my life is hers and I have no right to take it from her
Feels good, man.

>>11477075
What game is that in the picture? Looks like Earthbound.

>>11477484
yume nikki

>>11477484
Read. It's yume nikki

>>11478105
you forgot the option of
>having your older loli tulpas groom your new younger loli tulpas to fit in with your ever-expanding loli tulpa harem wonderworld orgy

>>11478333
trips confirm
kek loves loli tulpas

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>>11478333
witnessed

>>11477433
When I am feeling really awful, my tulpa tends to put a collar with her name on it around my neck and tells me that I am hers now and that she will watch out for her pet. She treats me like I have no autonomy and tells me everything that I need to do in order that I don't need to think about my problems anymore until I feel better.
Still a healthier coping strategy than getting drunk.

>>11479613
>Still a healthier coping strategy than getting drunk.
true

>>11479613
>my tulpa tends to put a collar with her name on it around my neck
Are we the same person?

>>11480001
Yes, we are definitely samefagging right now.

>>11480064
We are all the same person.

>>11480144
>>11480064
We all get collared by our tulpa? We are men of class.

>>11458655
i just started talking to nothingness and then they came to me. now i can't be without them. doesn't matter that my original ones aren't here anymore. some come. some go. some stay. but at least i'm not alone.

>>11459578
i've had sex with mine in public. no one seems to care. i just let them do all the work and to a non-initiate it just looks like i'm sitting on the sidewalk or on the bus or by the store.

>>11480358
Have you came from this?

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>>11480358
>Ultra virginity lost

>>11480455
i have dry orgasms when i engage in tulpa sex. similar to when i have sex with someone or something while i astrally project, or when the aliens come to visit me during the springtime to collect samples. i'm on medication which makes it hard to climax normally and i have some back problems due to being hit by a car. most of my orgasms in general are dry orgasms.
>>11480472
i lost my virginity when i was a child. my dad had sex with me. he then made me lick his tattoos. at least my first time was with someone i loved. he disowned me when i was diagnosed with autism though. i miss him. it's been over 24 years and i haven't heard anything from or about him. unlike my mother and brother i was able to forgive the abuse because deep down i knew he had issues and he needed to work through those, though he did it in the wrong way back then. my mother is a christian, and my brother is a buddhist, yet it's the pagan that is the forgiving one.

>>11480560
Wow, this post is fucked up in so many ways I don't even know where to start.

>>11480675
people always say that when i post and i don't know why.

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>>11480560
>>11480695

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>>11480560
whats ur sex if i may ask anon
i won't judge i promise

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>>11480560

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>>11480695
>>11480560
I'd be surprised if this was serious, but God loves you, anon. Bless your soul.

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>>11480560

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>>11480560
I would say this is hand-crafted to be the most ridiculous post conceivable, but I fear that's just optimism

>>11480560
I love this.

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>>11480560

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>>11478105
>loli switching
When the meme goes too far

>>11481787
>not permaswitching and then becoming the loli tulpa yourself
step it up nigga

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>>11481828
>permaswitching
>ever

I'd call you a tool but I'll have you know that back in muh days in the tulpa colony (before the great fede war, in the third metaworld fanfic-tier wonderastraleskeree) not only I have learned to permaswitch but also to contain my whole self in a bracelet and allow myself to astral travel to astral equestria where I blended in as Twilight Sparkle and lived in harmony while some noname entity (still me, just pretending not to be) was living my life in exactly the same way I would have

The last part is based on a "true" story holy shit 2013 irc was borderline autistic glad I left

>Astral projection
more like projecting bumps out your ass holy cow

>>11457761
>Stare in the mirror and see my reflection
>Suddenly feel great rage for no reason

Is this my tulpa first emotional response?

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>>11482653
no, this is patrick.

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>>11482653
Did your face turn dark in the process?

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>>11482031
so you used tulpa slave to switch and live in your own perfect world?

>>11482896
Who doesn't?
:)

So it seems to me that most of people here have female, or let's say, feminine tulpas. I was actually thinking about creating a male or masculine one, one that I could look up to, that could help me in more practical situations instead of emotionally, as I am pretty stable in that regard etc.
Have any of you got any experience with that kind of tulpa? I have zero experience with any kind of tulpa, I decided that I may give it a try only recently, moslt out of curiosity

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>>11483276
>one that I could look up to, that could help me in more practical situations instead of emotionally
what the hell does "practical" mean in this context? I have a dude tupper, though, so I could answer any questions you had I g

>>11483431
Hmm, I actually don't really know how to describe what I meant. Well, it still conveys the meaning if you replace the "more practical" with "other" I guess
How do you treat him? How does he treat you? Is that just friend to friend relationship or something different? Well, how is it?

>>11483276
>>11483431
>>11483692
All tulpas are female, futa, or flatchested futa without pussy.
Male tulpas are a myth.

>>11483739
(You)

i'm so worried that im doing something wrong and that this wont work because of it

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>>11483276
I actually have a male tulpa who is pretty masculine. His name's Dan. He's based heavily off of Danny Sexbang. He's similar in a lot of ways except he's maybe a bit more serious at times. I created him during a particularly dark time in my life and I needed a "bro" so to speak to help me out and genuinely make me laugh. The irony there is I had irl friends at the time, but the woman I was with wouldn't let me see them. Dan helped me through a lot of that. Just create someone you'd want to be best friends with, but not want to fuck. It's pretty great. He's funny, and sings really well. Good luck to you with that. I hope that helped.

>>11483832
1. Are you visualizing your tulpa?
2. Are you talking to your tulpa throughout your day?
3. Are you listening for your tulpa's responses?

Recommendations: imagine running your hands over your tulpa to get a mental feel for your tupper's form's texture. This will improve solidity and will feel nice for your tup.

Keep your tupper presence-imposed as constantly as possible to help give them a constant trickle of attention, which will give them more life and energy than if you only visualize them for short periods of designated forcing time.


other than that what are you doing?

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>>11483739

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>>11483692
I'm not 100% what this question means. If you're asking how cordial I am with him, I guess I treat him like a really close family member, like a brother, for lack of a better comparison. If you're asking what his role in my life is? That's even harder to pin down. There's no real comparison with other interpersonal relationships because of the nature of tulpas and how their life and your life are so deeply intertwined. He's an extremely intimate confidante, someone I can turn to when I'm alone or in a bad place in life. He's someone I can turn to for a second opinion about creative decisions, judgments, and life choices. He's just someone I talk to regularly and can turn to for support anytime. On the whole, it's pretty nice.

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>>11483832
Same even though i'm actually starting tonight

>>11483885
pretty much all this exect its hard to talk to them when im not getting a responce
it feels weird for me thinking out to nothing

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>>11480754
male
>>11481470
why do people always say things like that when i post?

>>11484467
It sounds like you're doing well then. How far into development are you? It can be a while before your tup starts moving / acting on their own while you're mentally observing her. If you get to about six months in and you haven't gotten any kind of indication of sapience then you should re-evaluate your procedures.

Don't be impatient. That time will pass with or without you engaging in the tulpa creation process, so be persistent and determined and you will grow yourself your tulpa.

>>11484467
You could try parroting a bit, though depending on your mindset that could breed some serious doubts about your tulpa's "realness".

Basically parroting is when you just have them reply to you while you talk to them. At first you'll probably be responsible for all or most of the words coming out of their moths, so to speak, but eventually the replies should start to come out more naturally. It feels like the raw thoughts come from the tulpa and you're just responsible for putting them into words. This is basically the same method through which authors accidentally create tulpas (kinda) of their characters (the "characters write themselves" phenomenon), only instead of talking to the authors, they talk to other characters or thinking to themselves.

Some try parroting get paranoid about "unconscious parroting", which is the notion that everything your tulpa does is still controlled by you even if you're not aware of it, so maybe just try it out for a bit and see how it feels to you.

Unpopular opinion incoming:

DAE think that making tulpas based off of already existing characters is super cringy? It makes you look like a weirdly obsessed fan who lives for nothing else except for said character. It's pretty childish, too. Not only that but it's not original at all. It's impossible to count the amount of pokemon and pony tulpas.

>>11476033
His name is Bertok. He's an anthro raven. He's also changed his appearance a bit since then: He has purple eyes now.

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>>11485079
Like anyone would dare and imagine an original form for their tulpa.

>>11485196
I beg to differ.

My tulpa has a form which is basically an oc, but you could say inspiration was taken from a character in Portal, although very briefly

me did

>>11485079
>based off of already existing characters
How "based off of" are we talking about here?
If the tulpa just looks like the character because you thought the form fit their personality really well or just because you like how the character looks that's fine, but if you go into it actually wanting your tulpa to look like that character, then it starts to get a bit cringy. Especially so if you also give them the character's personality.

>Not only that but it's not original at all.
Who gives a shit. Nothing truly is in this day and age.

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>>11485535
I'm almost cringe then.
I just like how she looks and i'll make sure to give her possitive traits. is that alright?

>>11485765
As long as you're not making a tulpa based on a character because you want to hang out with that character specifically and not just with whoever your tulpa turns out to be, it's alright by me.

>>11485765
>>11485871
But why do you even care about what I think anyway?

>>11484565
I don't know whether to bless your innocence or praise your baiting skills

>>11485915
Because I don't like being cringe, man

>>11485196
All 4 of my tulpas have original forms.

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>>11485196
Well *i* didn't make it for her, buuuut...

>>11485079
Eh, it depends on the character and why the form was chosen, though I might be biased, since my tulpa's forms are based off of pokemon (although that's not quite the same thing as a particular character, that'd be closer to choosing an animal). That was mostly done for utility purposes, though.

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>>11486177
i have autism. it's a hell of a drug. so is adrenochrome.

>>11485079
my tulpas come to me. what form they take depends on what i'm attached to at the moment. usually it's a character i like or a character in a video game i am playing at the moment. but they come to me. they always do. whether they stay or not depends on whether i interest them enough and whether i give them enough treats.

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>>11480162
>>We all get collared by our tulpa?
>I might collar you too
Welp, I may join you folks soon.

Does anyone here have aphantasia? How does it work with your tupper? I've been doing it my own way but I'm wondering how others with no visual imagination do it.

>>11485079
But I AM a weirdly obsessed fan who lives for nothing else but said character. That's how waifus work.

>>11484565
On the off-chance that you are truly clueless, here is why:
One guy asks you whether you came from doing lewd things with your tulpa in public. He was expecting a "yes/no"-answer with possibly a bit of background information such as "I trained for a long time". Instead, you drowned him in spiritual stuff, conspiracy theories, your medical history and your sexual problems in just two sentences.
This is not what he wanted to hear. This is far too much information. You should know that no one takes you seriously once you start takling about aliens. It is already hard enough to take you seriously when you mention astral projection.

The rest of your post was traumatic pedophilia stuff. The guy you responded to was just making a joke, you didn't have to tell him all about how your daddy raped you as a child while including weird details like that you had to lick his tatoos.

If you have autism like you say you do, then I recommend you doing some research on what kind of information people think is inappropriate.

>>11489249
Giving your tulpa a form belonging to a popular character is very advantageous in that the large amounts of existing artwork make it easier to get material to use to visualize and imagine your tulpa's form.

Just don't do something weird like convince your tulpa that she is literally that actual character brought to life or your tulpa is liable to have a serious identity crisis when she figures out that she is a tulpa and not actually the character. Your tulpa should know that it is a tulpa from the beginning so that it understands what it is and you don't end up with a super depressed tulpa that resents you for making it believe that it is something that it is not.

>>11457761
Cute

>>11489194
Do you have complete aphantasia or only visual? Are you capable of tactile visualization? Can you hear your own thoughts?

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>>11489313
no

>>11491022
Please elaborate.

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>>11491038
nope

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>>11489349
>he does not know about the multiverse theory

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>>11480560
>>11484565
>>11487825
>>11491022

>>11491062
I have to agree with >>11491100

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>>11491110
>>11491100
know your place.

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>>11491163
Oh I know my place, darling.
It's a few leagues above you.

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>>11491189
daaaaaamn

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>>11491163
>>11491189
Poner war?

>>11491075
Tulpas live in this universe, not some hypothetical alternate dimension.

>>11492236
>not getting the astral train to the astral plane

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>>11491189

>>11492236
bro can you even into idealism?

Has anybody made just a regular-ass pet, no autism?

>>11492562
there's two guys who made ravens

>>11492572
A raven is not a pet.

>>11492590
define "pet"

>>11492562
regular ass-pet
but really what the hell does that even mean?
Like a servitor thing? I have a cat and an anime fairy.

>>11492590
literally any animal can be a pet if it's under a human's care. You might be thinking of a "domesticated species"

>>11492562
what's the point in having a pet when you can for not much more effort have a thinking feeling individual you can interact with on an even deeper level than even the humans closest to you

>>11492637
>any animal
Even a human?

>>11492953
Pet humans are the best pets

>>11492953
Especially humans.

>>11492562
>>11493017
I'm my tulpas pet human

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isabelle tulpa?

>>11493131
Begone, oask!

how many people with loli tuppers itt?

>>11479613
I'm not depressed, but I have near crippling motivation/procrastination issues, and aside from general companionship and mental exploration, I want my tulpa to also be a motivator so I can be more productive. This sounds like a fun way to accomplish that.

>>11494036
I have a loli tulpa with a cock

>>11494036
Two lolitups and one milfytup.
I love them dearly.
I plan to impregnate each of them when they are imposed.

>>11480695
honestly, you give out waaay to much unsolicited information unrelated to what we are talking about. i will break down your post, moment by moment, so that you might gain some insight into what other people (at least, what i) think.

>i have dry orgasms when i engage in tulpa sex.
okay. this is relevant

>similar to when i have sex with someone or something while i astrally project,
astral projection? most people are going to stop you right there and call bullshit. the burden of proof lies with you once you start bringing metaphysics into discussion, unless you want to sound crazy. as a community, tulpamancers already sound crazy enough even if we stick a psychologically-oriented view of the phenomenon. most try to distance themselves from talk of magick, astral projection, etc. if you really must talk about fantastic crazy stuff that isn't necessarily pertinent to tulpas, someplace other than this thread would be the place to do it... like /x/, or any other magick based discussion board. you've just gone and turned off a large percent of readers by mentioning astral projection.

>or when the aliens come to visit me during the springtime to collect samples.
what? stop it! i am having a difficult time discerning whether you are talking about daydreams, or if you are having a hard time differentiating fantasy from reality. you say people "always say that" -- this is why! you come across as someone who (very sincerely) believes that the fantasies within affect the outside world. this simply isn't a healthy view of reality.

>i'm on medication which makes it hard to climax normally and i have some back problems due to being hit by a car. most of my orgasms in general are dry orgasms.
and back to relevant stuff. if you had left out astral projection and aliens, you would have been fine. also, sorry to read that you got hit by a car. that sucks.

CONTINUED IN PART II, because i've gotten this far, i might as well see it through.

>>11494036
Depends. Will you offer me a seat if I say yes?

>>11494252
PART II
>i lost my virginity when i was a child.
someone has accused you of ultra-virgin status, and you counter with...
>my dad had sex with me.
something most people wouldn't be proud of.
>he then made me lick his tattoos.
wat.
>at least my first time was with someone i loved.
and then you go on to tell us your life story. this wouldn't be bad, if somebody had asked... but no one did. you are demonstrating a complete and utter lack of social awareness (i think that's the phrase). to be fair....
>he disowned me when i was diagnosed with autism though.
that really explains a lot. i am sorry you have autism. i have had friends with autism (life has taken us in different directions, but still on good terms). i sympathize with your condition, even as talk of metaphysics, aliens, and tattoo-liking befuddle me.
>i miss him. it's been over 24 years and i haven't heard anything from or about him. unlike my mother and brother i was able to forgive the abuse because deep down i knew he had issues and he needed to work through those, though he did it in the wrong way back then. my mother is a christian, and my brother is a buddhist, yet it's the pagan that is the forgiving one.
good for you, to be able to find the ability to forgive. not everyone can do that. i myself have not forgiven the people that abused me as a child, so you've got one over me.

in conclusion, anon, i hope this post has helped shed light on why people say the things they do. try to err on the side of cautious if you're not sure how well one topic might be received, and try to avoid giving to much unsolicited information. expect that if people seek clarification, or are curious to know more, they will ask. with your autism, it might be easier said than done. good luck, anon.

>>11494252
>>11494486

See >>11491022

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>>11494889
you sure like to put a lot off effort into your posts, don't you.

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i don't feel like im making any progress

>>11495960
That means you are doing it right.

>>11496011
what did he mean by this

>>11495960
How long have you been tulpamancing your tup? Can you visualize her form well? Have you been touching and mentally running your hands over your tups's form to increase solidity?

Damn, after reading some things I am now scared of making any decision about setup of my tulpa. I am scared I will fuck something up

>>11496580
-like three days
-ehhhh
-yes

>>11496624
Why?

>>11496735
Not exactly sure, one thing I know is that I fear making any fundamental decision, like basic character traits of the tulpa. I want to make one, but I don't know hwo I want it to be

>>11492636
I'll lose my shit if it's cirno, I swear to Christ /bant/ went to shit because of that shitty meme

>>11496802
What's so hard about basic character traits?
Loving
Heartwarming
Cheerful
Semen Demon
Trustworthy

And you are good to go.

>>11496865

>>11496802
character traits are unnecessary, or so I've heard

>>11457761
I am very happy that Isabelle Poster got this to be the "Isabelle Tulpa!" edition of the thread
C:

>>11496865
hah its actually cirno get rekt scrub

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any new experiences with you're tulpas?
my tulpa got to experience what it was like to haul scrap today and load it up. pic related is of a bigass load of scrap i helped load up with my dad. (long story short he pissed his sister and brother in-law so bad they kicked him out and forced him to move everything he owned(of which consisted of like 30 antique tractors)and sell of all of his 30+ years worth of scrap iron(his "retirement fund"...lol) and gave him 2 months to clean it all up, of which a month and a half i've been helping at a very discounted rate.

>>11496652
You're pretty early on then. Just keep stroking your tuplet and she should grow into a strong happy tupper. Don't worry about whether or not you've done something weird until the 3 month line.

Be sure to ensure that you apply love to your tup. Love is important for tups.

>>11496652
three days is nothing bro, even I had little notable progress in three days and I was one of the quickest people I know to get up and going

>>11497376
Me and one of mine have been discussing game design, it's a hobby I've never really thought to share with them so that's been interesting.

>>11497376
Hi mario when will you release a free pdf of adventures in brainmancing?

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>>11497923
i bought it off amazon for like 2 bucks last night actually after seeing it in this thread and read through it (it's like 60 pages)
it's certainly something

>>11497988
thank you so much anon for not listening to the hivemind and actually giving it a paid try...not too many good guys like your kind around anymore....really appreciate it.

ps. if you wan't i'll send you a personalized hardcover for free( just pay shipping)for your trust in me.

>>11496652
Usually, you get progress with your tulpa about one MONTH of daily tulpamancing, sometimes even more (took mine about a month and a half before I really got responses from her). If you've gone through maybe two months of daily mancing, and have made zero progress, then you can conclude that something is wrong, but before then, you sound like you're doing fine. Don't give up hope, anon!

>>11498164
i'll pass i dont really have the money for shiiping right now

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>>11496297
People who have ultra fast progress with tulpas 99% of time did it wrong and in result didn't create tulpa but puppet aka servitor.

How did they achieve such failure?
With parroting/puppeting

Just go with FAQ Man's or Irish's guide
Its mostly accurate aside from part where they mention how long it takes to make tulpa.

>>11498347
>People who have ultra fast progress with tulpas 99% of time did it wrong and in result didn't create tulpa but puppet aka servitor.
How can you tell?

>>11498347
>people who have ultra fast progress with tulpas 99% of the time did it wrong and in result didn't create tulpa but puppet
but I didn't puppet once and treated my tulpa as an inanimate object until both form and personality were done and didn't get any results for like 2 months.

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>>11498164
Okay I'm just a bit retarded so I'd thought that this book everyone was poking at was some meme. We'd appreciate a link/name/Addy where we can try and snag your book from.
>>11498178
I had DID and it slowed to a halt before picking back up (beyond it's old strength) as a tulpa during my extensive meditation. That said, I got no results I could call Tulpish until ~8 months in, but I'm hardly typical.

>>11498312
yeah that's fine, i wouldn't likely have the money to buy it myself(even at my discounted author rate.lol)till the third anyways.
>>11498592
it's called "Adventures in brainmancing" you can find it on websites like amazon, lulu, ebay etcetera.

>>11498753
honeslty though, i can finally stand to admit it, it's a rushed pile of unfinished garbage, i mean...cmon, i put it together in just six months while working a part time job at the same time....i was just being greedy and thought i could make some quick bucks off of it, but i realized the errors of my ways and are planning on a full scale remake of it, with all kinds of new content that was previously left out/censored, new art digitally drawn, and if anyone donates to my patreon i'll include their names in it too.(if they wish that is)

how much am i setting myself back by making revisions to my tulpas form during visualization?

>>11490622
Only visual. Have never actually tried tactile. Audio-wise it's a 10/10, I can hear and create different voices and hear music from memory perfectly.

>>11498858
not at all, as long as you keep in mind that it's still the same tulpa no matter how much the form changes

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>>11498416
2 months is solid amount of time, you're fine.
What i meant by ultra fast progress is time range from "few minutes to few hours" only.


>>11498384
Personal experience and hearing similar accounts from dozen people.

All this fast progress came from them tricking themselves into thinking that they're not parroting/puppeting while they obviously are doing so.


And no, Im not implying that it's impossible to turn an "imaginary friend" or a servitor into tulpa, but that is one curvy road.

They will need to quit parroting/puppeting altogether and switch to narration only, which will put them back into tulpa creation although now with addition of personality they established for their tulpa due to parroting/puppeting.


Making tulpa through parroting/puppeting in the end will end up more frustrating than it would be without it.

Parroting/puppeting creates module in your consciousness that some call their tulpa.
And with narration you're creating seperate consciousness.
And yes you can do so by putting previously pre-established module in center of it or by creating it from scratch altogether.

>>11499376
I understand that working under the belief that your tulpa is fully sentient and doing shit on their own when it's really just you puppeting them can stunt development of the tulpa into its own independent consciousness, but if you can recognize the difference between the two then I don't see what harm it could possibly do.

>>11473956
I don't want to know then

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>>11497376
we tried something today, we're actually still doing it now, where we're "fused" together mentally. I'm still not familiar yet with Tulpamancing terminology so I'm not sure if it's considered possession, switching or something else entirely, but it's like our souls are in a constant embrace, sharing equal control over the body while we share same thoughts and feelings in synchronization. We've switched before, but this is a different feeling than that. Does anyone know if there's a name for this?

>>11498826
Oh. Well I'll just wait for the remake then. I'm out of work and less money spent is better.

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>>11499856
Isabelle Tulpa!

>>11501020
It's called merging. Or at least what you did sounds similar to that.

>>11501020
Merging. It's fallen out of vogue recently, but was a pretty hot topic in earlier threads.
Some people see it as an ego-death for both parties with a new personality crafted from it. Others view it as more a seamless mixing, with no death involved by either party.
Personally I think it's cool; death may be involved because the information that made both parties who they were (personalities) are near-irreparably lost in the creation of the new personality, but that's also fine. Mutual decision makes it okay for one, and for another, most new personalities report increased satisfaction compared to the old pair's memories.

>>11501020
Can you stop being merged or are you just like this now?

>>11501020
Sounds close to possession, a fan favorite for us, but we're not that familiar with terminology either.

I dont see how merging would be any different than regular full-scale possession, unless you're getting into "souls and magic" territory with it.

>>11498384
Above all else, a tulpa still must follow the rules governing brains - that is, there are a set of real neurons in your brain that correspond to your tulpa. It follows, then, that tulpas are limited to the same degree as other neural phenomena, that is, they must be trained in order to exist.

So, you can't create a tulpa in less than a week in the same way that you can't become a master mathematician in a week, or a master of calligraphy: you have to train your brain to do those things, and that takes time. Different times for different people, mind you, but time nonetheless.

Habit formation takes anywhere between two weeks to almost nine months for people, which is probably why you see such a large varience in tulpa emergence for people. The average, though, is roughly two months, and indeed you'll see that that is a common amount of time that most people notice their tulpas first acting on their own.

If you encourage the idea of people making their first tulpas in short time periods, you encourage the further dilution of whatever a tulpa is, which is a genuine problem that plagues this community.

Anons I fucked my Tupper and she is on the final stage for a while now... She's just not getting into labor, any help?

>Inb4 autism

>>11502759
She's pregnant, forgot to put that in there.

>>11502759
Autism desu

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>>11502759
Make a Docter tulpa, European so its FREE.

>>11457761
bump. Can't have the tup thread dying early, can we?

>>11502759
Fuck her into labor, obviously.

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>>11501086
>>11501621
We're able to separate pretty easily on command, and we both still feel like our own selves so there was no ego-death.

>>11501823
I agree 100% with you.

i usually do my visualization / narration in bed before sleep and usually fall asleep during
is this bad?

>>11506013
I did narration all throughout the day, but in bed before sleep is my main active forcing timeslot. It's been my go-to time to think for basically all my life. I don't fall asleep during it though.

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>>11505707
Well that's pretty cool, never heard of something quite like that, even if the result during it is very much like merging. Good on you guys!

>>11457761
Cute

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i feel guilty about trying to base my tulpa off an existing character
i really like the way they look and i'd like them to be like that character but i also dont want them to pretend to be someone they're not
please advise

>>11507376
Just inform them that they are not the character and make sure they're aware of it. Having a form that is based off a pre-existing character is fine. As long as they are their own person personality wise, then all's well.

>>11496865
Cirno would be actually nice as a pet

>>11507616
but i still want them to be nice and cuddly and friendly like the character they're based on
could i just think of these like suggestions for them

>>11507901
They could literally have the exact same form as them even the same personality but as long as they know they aren't THE person they're based on and are a recreation of that person, then it should be okay.

>>11460131
>a loli tup
Does she ever commeny on you being a pedophile?

So basically, making a "Tulpa" is pretty much just giving yourself Schizoprhenia.

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do not reply to the poster above me

>>11508582
don't tell me what to do

>>11508533
100% correct, you've made an incredibly original observation My Guy. Checked!

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>>11508582
Latias is cute

>>11508533
Related: Many people seem to be a lot happier and mentally well after creating a tupper. What kind of negative tulpa related experiences have people had, if any? Also nice dubs

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My tup and I have been feeling really sad about this lately, let's all have a moment of silence for all the forgotten tulpas and those in abusive/literal slave relationships

>>11509194
>What kind of negative tulpa related experiences have people had, if any?
Once I was given a less than optimal amount of cuddles.

>>11509452
jokes on you, my tulpa gets off to our abusive relationship

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>>11508533
You can't induce schizophrenia baka~

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>>11509501
How awful.

>>11508533
If by schizophrenia you mean hearing voices, then yes. Schizophrenia more often than not don't result in multiple identities though. That's generally considered Disassociative Identity Disorder.

Also, congratulations on being the 400'001st person to make that observation.

>>11508408
Sometimes she calls me a baka hentai or a perv but she's a perv herself since she's into lolis and wants a loli of her own for her own purposes.

>>11508582
Good call, tulpoké
>>11509194
Some Tulpa (mine also) start life in a really rebellious phase and threaten harm or otherwise torment their host. It made me feel both worse as a person but also proud that I was capable of hosting a second person in this fleshsuit.

As of late our most bad experience is when we disagreed about what show to watch with our tea before bed (she won, and we ended up watching "Once upon a time", which was surprisingly fun to watch)

>>11509721
hands off the loli buddy

>>11511397
How else are you supposed to caress your loli tulpa?

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>>11511429
>loli tulpa

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>>11513070
>he doesn't have a loli tulpa

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>>11513336
>he has a loli tulpa

>>11511389
>fleshsuit
CRINGE

It's your body you autistic mong, without it you'd be nothing

Guys,my pregnant tulpa just had a kid

Also my other tulpa got a new form,it's art style changed. Is this normal?

>>11513548
>normal
>tulpamancy
Nothing is normal in tulpamancy.
Enjoy your fresh tulpababby.

>>11513421
Stow it, Oask. These terms aren't anything new to the culture and if that's the kinda thing you're cringing at just wait till you get back a thread or two and end up reading walls of text about astral projection or whatever

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>>11514324