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/ztg/ - Zootopia General: Judy is a Nerd Edition
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>>11047012
I'd be interested in zip of your draws Numbers, I'm sure I've missed some good ones.
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>>11047171
I've never seen this one
Numbers, you ever think about doing something big? Like comic or something?
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Ozzy deserves _______
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Literally none of these items are punching bags, who picked these images?
(I know this is not Zoot related, but w/e)
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>>11047228
Sweet release from this mortal coil
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>>11047228
cock
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>>11047228
love
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>>11047228
a boyfriend who loves and appreciates him
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>>11047238
I dunno you but I see at least one.
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>>11047209
https://mega.nz/#F!mFMm0CrT!KRNojdNBoUGIXxV1_RaZIw

>>11047223
I've done big projects in the past, and while it was writing and not drawing, I at least had an inkling of what I was doing. Drawing is still very new, and I can't ink or color worth a fucking shit, so I don't know. I'm also not exactly that great at consistency.
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am I the only one who wants to get put into an aggressive headlock by Charlie
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>>11047313
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>>11047328
that bitch is built like a twig no way she can do that

Betty and Al on the other hand, ho boy, the thing's i'd let them do
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>>11047361
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>>11047343
I dunno man some skinny folk have some insane strength sometimes.
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>>11047313
You even took the time to make it the right size and add the checkmark.
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>>11047366
cute
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>>11047361
>>11047366
This is fucking cute.
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>>11047313
this took a lot of effort anon, have a pointless response.
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>>11047238
You'll probably get a new screen of items, but notice how it won't say "please try again." They make no mention of whether you're right or wrong: these are items where they just don't actually know, and want you to help identify them. You can pick pretty much anything and go on to the next screen with things they actually know (street signs etc)

Pic unrelated.
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>>11047366
Gekkering intensifies.
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>>11047400
I'ts my specialty.
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>>11047366
>*angry bunny noises in the distance*
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>>11047430
I just picked the three most punching bag like items and it it took it. Pretty often it makes you pick one item that doesn't belong, but this is the first time it's been all three.
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when Remmy finally admits to being a predophile do ya think he would be into hardcore pred-prey play?
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>>11047456
>Both Jack and Skye are ready to smack their foxes
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>>11047522
Fuck I mean Judy fuuuuck
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>>11047238
One thing about these that bug me is when they often have you identify traffic items. Signs cars, stores, etc. These are so google can train their AI for their self driving cars. I don't like doing work for the competition.
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>>11047456
>skye degrades jack while forcing his head into the bed by the ears
>furiously pounding away at his ass with her knotted fox dildo
>"You're a cutey," she yells at him with each thrust, while he screams away into the matress
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>>11047315
https://mega.nz/#F!mFMm0CrT!KRNojdNBoUGIXxV1_RaZIw

Thanks Numbers, it seems I missed like half of your stuff.
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love boys
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>>11047313
>>11047429
Different anon, you're right.
Anywho;
Strike Three...
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>>11047361
>>11047420
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>>11047509
Well considering that he was getting hot and horny when Betty was shearing him and then he spaced out and dreamt that she teased his throat with her teeth and then began to straddle onto of him and also imagined Anneke with a collar and leash on her, I can imagine that he's already into that sort of thing
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>>11047386
>>11043485
much thanks anon
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>>11047922
Hey, it's rude to touch a fox's tail if you're not a fox!
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>>11047770
>Nick is also one of the fandoms designated punching bags (unfortunately).
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>>11047962
do not hurt the bun
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>>11047962
Jeese, bunishment is done with lewd, a rolled up newspaper, cardboard tube OR making them write history lessons.

Hammers is over the line!
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>>11047960
>Remmy's so sexually frustrated that he experiences Doug-esque breaks from reality.
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TT in two days
Who /fucked/ here?
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>>11048467
>Who /fucked/ here?
Apparently most of the CCs, because it's a ghost town in here tonight.
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>>11048467

Cest moi.
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>>11048541
When I see shit like this, I wonder, is anyone really turned on by this? That's like a years worth of shit and piss...
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http://www.furaffinity.net/view/24490671/
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>>11048467
>Just 2 days left
>Haven't started yet
>Lots of really good ideas since its a theme I like but can't decide which one to do
>Work will have me occupied for the majority of the remaining time
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>>11048605
only autistic individuals.
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>>11048063
True, but I couldn't bring myself to do that.
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>inb4 someone submits a NES game months after the due date
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Thinking on Gideon x Violet ship names

GreyHopps
>might get confused with Judeon

Violeon
>it sounds like violations or something

Gidlet
>that sounds more like a very specific "foxlet"
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>>11048604
I would play this game
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Is August "Don't update your Zootopia porn comic month"? It seems all of them are stalled...
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>>11048727
Does anybody really want this updated?
Oh right, it's gay o'clock..
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>>11048708
>inb4 someone submits an open world rpg with over 100 hours of playable content years after the due date
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>>11048541
>>11048605
>>11048646
I had to stop and wonder WTF was going on?
Oh right, fettish o'clock..
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>>11048747
>Does anybody really want this updated?
...yeah kinda.

However, it would be nice if it least one of the ongoing porn comics wasn't about Nick getting fucked in the ass.
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>>11048747
Ya.. its a fun comic.
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>>11048747
yeah why else you think we're readin the fuckin thing
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Jerboas are cute! CUTE!
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>>11048727
You can't just post that without a source my man (or you know, posting the whole thing)
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>>11048935
http://leosaeta.tumblr.com/
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>>11048935
Dunno how you've missed this, but enjoy: https://e621.net/pool/show/8744
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Post mice
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>>11048999
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>>11047439
Was this a shop? What's the original?
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>>11048999
I wish I had more mice, they're so cute.
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>>11049031
I think some anon just hated Gideon that much (the gif is like a year old).
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>>11049031
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>>11048820
Well yeah, I mean;
"What is it with Fox Butts?"
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>>11048999
Mice are nice.

Mice with bigger mammal's footpaws are the best
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>>11049130
Sleep tight bunner!
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>>11049143
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>>11049130
stb
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>>11049199
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>>11049222
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>>11049240
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>>11049199
>Good Morning
Maybe in Europe or something, here in burgerland it's time for me to say good night ZTG.
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Will things ever be the same?
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>>11049300
No. Spacetime itself is irrevocably altered.
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>>11048712
ample proof Gideon is not for shipping with anyone
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>>11049300
no but they will be sexy
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>>11048747
>Oh right, it's gay o'clock..
but /ztg/ is gay 24/7
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>>11049335
Gideon is for fisting only.
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>>11049393
>fisting
>in the face
>with brass knuckles
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>>11049222
>おはよう...ニック...
Judy: "G'morning... Nick..."

>おはようニンジン、昨日遅くまでお疲れさん
Nick: "G'morning Carrots, you were up awful late last night. You look exhausted"

>>11049240
>......ジュディ、今日は遅番だろ?
Nick: "...... Judy, don't we have the late shift today?"

>ほら、いい子だからもう少し寝とけって
Nick: "C'mon, since you've been such a good bun why don't you go sleep in a little longer"

>>11049263
>また電話で起こしてやるからさ
Nick: "I'll be sure to call you on the phone to wake you up"

>覚えないやつだ これ、絶対....
Nick: "She doesn't remember does she
That's, absolutely..." (TN: reference to earlier comic?)
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>>11049335
Gideon is for Travis
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>>11048541
source?
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>>11049393
>>11049443
no Gideon is for hugging only, you violent people
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>>11049463
Their love is true
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>>11049489
Fisting doesn't have to be violent and I'm sure Gideon would enjoy a good fisting from Judy.
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Say something nice about this polecat
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>>11048151
>>11048277
of course, I was being silly!
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>>11049611
God, I hope she wears a glove, image trying to get all that shit out of your fur 0__0
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Hi
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>>11049638
>slut
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>>11049638
Very fluffy and soft
Pretty fur pattern and colors
8/10 - would pet
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>>11049659
Yo
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>>11049638
''nice about this polecat''
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>>11049638
He's the best at pleasuring hoofers.
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>>11049654
She could use those shoulder length gloves for horse vets and get way up in there.
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>>11049646
Even Skye does her legal duty.
Remember, buns must be bullied daily.
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>>11049702
delet this
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>>11049764
Search your feelings. You know it is the truth.
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So i just read "a fox thing" and it wasnt that good, too on the nose, is it worth reading the sequel? because it seems to be edgy shit
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>>11049826
I saw it a couple of times on Ao3, how bad is it?
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>>11049826
It's not garbage or anything but it's pretty meh
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Bu-u-u-u-u-u-n~
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>>11049826
Summary?
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>>11049878
Careful, the hand further away from us is bigger than the hand closer to us. Very cute bun though.
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>>11049878
Hot bun is hot
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>>11049903
Didn't notice that, thanks.
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>>11049903
Better?
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Post handsome otters
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>>11049866
Just meh and on the nose, it really hammers the authors views over and over even if you were to agree with them it takes you out of the story

Its not badly written but it isnt good either

>>11049882
New drug is around town, prejudice is high after an incident revolving preds and said new drug,
A kid gets attacked due to said climate and for being a fox and nick is dealing with angst for being with judy and dealing with said event that happened, plus he gets roped into the attack on the kid


It short an angst fest that mixes prejudice, drugs, and leaves on a cliffhanger teasing something related to nick

Also charlie from packstreet is there
In some form
>>11049872
Alright then
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>>11049826
>>11049866

Meh. It's not really worth it. 136k or so words to get caught up on? Fuck no. Just go and read decent and good stuff instead. It's not even to the level of "It's so bad it's good" either.

>>11049882
"In the Sanguine Shadow"

SEQUEL to "It's a Fox Thing." With Zootopia reeling in the wake of an assassination and crippled by the Blue epidemic, the ZIA sets up a task force under the famous Jack Savage to bring order back to the streets. Yet there is a bigger danger brewing beneath the bright lights of the ostensible utopia, and the City's dark past returns to haunt our heroes. WildeHopps.

The very first chapter has Judy hunting Nick down and trying to kill him. (Using live ammo and everything) She is out for blood and wants to kill him for the things he did.

The rest of the story is how they got to that point. Nick needs to go undercover or some shit, and it looks like Nick is forced to fuck someone while he is in a relationship with Judy. Which is why she wants to kill him.
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>>11050013
What is that mouse doing hanging out with all those otters?
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>>11049462

Thanks for translation
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>>11050061
>read something good
Well thanks for saving me time but im open to suggestions, my weel is running dry here.

Got anything fluffy and sweet?
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>>11050001
Looking better to me
Also kudos for taking criticism, always love an artist with a drive to improve
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>>11050001
One more small push, but try shrinking the further away hand/arm a little bit and I think you'll be golden
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Speaking of fics are there any good ones where Jack is the villain? I've been curious to see what would happen if Nick and Judy had to square up against him.
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>>11049709
Where's that drawing of Mead's with the wet suits?
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>>11050184
I did though, should I do more?
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>>11049826
Wasn't "It's A Fox Thing" about a fox who was framed for robbing an electronics store by it's bunny owner, and Nick & Judy were at odds because Judy was unconsciously letting her prejudice affect the investigation?

And that Nick intentionally was incredibly unhelpful because he was doing his own fox investigation?

>>11050032
>Also charlie from packstreet is there
>In some form

Wut? Details?
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>>11050338
Honestly, you're fine, I'm just thinking too hard to try and be too helpful. I like your sketches, thank you for doing them and sharing with us.
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>>11050231
None so far, most use jack for cuck, the obvious im better than judy or just a gary stu

The savage dark jack is one that doesnt just sucks but can be tolerated, he isnt a villian there tho
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Hold me /ztg/
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>>11050359
>about a fox who was framed
Nah that was something else.
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>>11050152
Not that anon but I would suggest a few;

"Thicker than Blood"
Sort of just arcs set after the movie, with developing WildeHopps. Lighthearted most of the time.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7569217/chapters/17219935

"Perfect Space" series
7 stories, more WildeHopps, some fics being wholesome, some lewd

https://archiveofourown.org/series/580033

"Born to be Wilde"
I'll always recommend this one; it is more of a Nick story than anything. While there are plenty of hints of WildeHopps in the fic, it in no way focuses on that, rather on Nick dealing with some remaining parts of his past. Probably what I like the most about the fic really, it isn't sharing the spotlight with some "will they, won't they" plot. Nick is there, Judy is also there being a badass, they play off each other, but also at times are given time alone.

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/11910746/1/Born-to-Be-Wilde

>>11050231
Aside from "If it ever happens", I can't immediately think of any fics where Jack was the antagonist of the story.

>>11050359
No, the story you are thinking of is "Elective Amnesia".

>Intentionally unhelpful

I mean, Nick only did his own investigation after Bogo gave him the unofficial "go" and when the case appeared to be shut and closed.
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>>11050359
Shit i read that one but cant remember the name, it isnt a fox thing tho

The author says he asked weaver for permission to use charlie in the fic and she just kind of appears to rope nick into doing something about the kid attack

Is charlie in name but as for interpretation thats up to you
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>>11050363
Thanks! I'm blowing off stress with them. So far so good.
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>>11050464
Elective amnesia, that was it, it was decent-ish as far as i can remember, wish that wasnt dead.

Thanks for the fics, anon
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>>11050545
he'd welcome my cum
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>>11050558
But where, anon?
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>>11050545
He is starved for affection after years of being a jaded fox, with judy out of the picture getting a foxy slave would be easy
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>>11050571
anywhere
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>>11050647
I'm intrigued as to why you chose this pic.
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>>11050686
because it's what he says at that very part
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>>11050647
Reminds me of pic related.
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>>11050719
I see.
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>>11050152

No problem, anon. Well these are my old faithful's.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7569217/

>Friendship focused at the start, romance showed up in the last 3 or so latest chapters Writing was a bit "airy" (bland) at the start, but it did GREATLY improve as time went on.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/8668324/
>Writing is pretty great, and Nick's care and actions towards Judy is adorable. Romance showed up in the recent chapters. (Even if Judy's actions and how she is handling it is pretty mean. Still lighthearted enough.)

http://archiveofourown.org/works/6440899/
>This is their best work, hands down. Their other 3 works are also super sweet in their own right.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/6933031/
>Nuff' said. And I am sure you have heard of this one before. Don't forget it's sequel also!

http://archiveofourown.org/works/6192814/
>Collection of a huge number of one-shots and drabble's. Some are super sweet, dose of romance and freindship to nearly all of them. Just steer clear of the "Sea of Love" and the chapters that have "Candy" in the title." They are morbid and just plain bitter. (Also try and look through all their other Zoot work. Some are hits, other's are misses.)

http://archiveofourown.org/works/6261835
>Introspection heavy and ultra romantic at heart. Slight bit of angst at a certain point, but it get's better.

http://archiveofourown.org/works/11425896
http://archiveofourown.org/works/11443731/
>Some of their other stuff can be good, but other's, not so much. Steer clear of Part 3 and 4 of this series also.
But these two particular parts are fan-fucking-tastic. Especially New Directions.
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>>11050763
>Part 3
>eight fucking rape tags

Jesus christ do I even want to know
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>>11050733
fucks sake
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Good night /ztg
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>>11050864
You weren't supposed to give him attention
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>>11050073
He's got a thing for handsome male otter swimmers.

The size difference really gets him going.
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>>11050923
the discord was a mistake
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/ZTG/, how should I spend my evening?

>Actually play vidya
>Say fuck it and get in bed, listen to ASMR all night
>Greentext writing + one of the above

Nobody e v e r replies to my greentexts, so keep that in mind
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>>11050926
temiree draws some pretty hot dudes just gonna say~
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>>11051069
Greentext, something kinda sexy if you're down for a request

I will reply to it I promise
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>>11051091
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>>11051069
Just do what you want anon.

Or roll and let digits decide.
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>>11051080
Otter guys are always hot.
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>>11050818
It's one of those story's.

Namely where an author wants to bring awareness to a topic or issue. This topic being child/human trafficking along with child and adult rape/molestation and how victums cope with it.

It's heavy handed. Like fucking seriously. But the writing is still pretty good. But holy shit it wasn't a fun read.

(And that was back when it was on FF, and where the tags couldn't be used. I had no idea how fucking dark it was going to be.) Granted the author still warned readers it wasn't going to be pleasant. It at least had a pleasant and happy ending.
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packistan street
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>>11051160
Agreed. Nice toned bods usually~

speaking of Temiree I'm getting a pic from him sometime soon. Not zoot related but it does have an otter at least.
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>>11051118
What I want is to wake up in the middle of the night, get pulled by a strong paw (claws almost fully retracted) into a chest blanketed in soft fur, breathe in a lungful of wolf musk, and fall back asleep. That isn't possible, so I'll roll.

Evens first thing, odds second thing, dubs greentext + other.
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>>11051265
that pretty hot anon
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>>11051218
So who gets raped, Nick or Judy?
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>>11051265
I want this but reverse where the wolf is small and I can wrap myself around him as the big spoon
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>>11051371
Yes.
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Bleh. Want to write idea for Greentext, but can't get started >.<
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>>11051390
That's what I get for being optimistic.
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>>11051265
I need this too anon
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>>11051418
bad boy, good girl trophe
>Japan right away!
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>>11051371
>>11051407

Neither. Finnick was rapped when he was a child by his uncle.

And Judy almost was. During the finale of the fic, the main leader of the trafficking ring that Judy went undercover for, ended up roofing her drink.

But the raid happened just before she was and they were able to capture her before she assaulted Judy.
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>>11051371
>>11051407
Neither; Judy goes undercover and gets molested by someone trafficking rabbit does, but it never gets close to rape. There is just a lot of mentions of others being raped in the past.
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>>11051401
Impressive, but is this from the same artist?
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>>11051552
love those grins
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>>11051561
>Finnick was rapped
Is that why he blasts that shitty French music all the time?
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>>11051561
>"she" assaulted...
not many fics have lesbian raping from my experience, was that leader a feline
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is it the gay hour yet
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>>11051569
Yes moko on twitter
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>>11051418
>>11051432
Artsit?
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>>11051568
Oh is this the one where she's a stripper or something and gets hired for a private show and gets felt up by a hyena for like half an hour then vomits afterward
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>>11051401
>俺のこと好きなんだろう?
Nick: "You know you love me?"

>>11051418
Not Zoot but
>しろうさん...
Yatsuchi: "Shirou-san..."

>やつちさん......
Shirou: "Yatsuchi-san......"

>初めてのキス...どんな味がした?
Yatsuchi: "Your first kiss... What did it taste like?"

>うさぎの肉の味
>なんて言えない!
Shirou: "Tasted like rabbit meat"
I definitely can't say that!"

>ああ...嘘をついてしまった...男子たるものが......
Shirou: Ah... I lied, actually... Boy stuff, y'know......
>フーン
Yatsuchi: "Fu---n" (As in "fufu", not "fun/enjoyable")
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mice butts
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I've got an idea for a greentext, but I need some ideas for books. Basically I need some book titles or authors or subjects that Marty will be unreasonably passionate or angry about. (Think his reaction to harry porker) Doesn't matter the stance, just that he will go off when the subject is broached.
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>>11051590

Whoops. It's 2 in the morning here. I am tired.

>>11051596
I think she was? I don't know which one for certain though. It was either puma, panther, or a tiger.

>>11051681
Fucking what. I think I vomited just reading that. And no, it's not.
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>>11051679

Nikomi_otaku posted the comic, it's not zoot

https://mobile.twitter.com/halux3/status/897698741486059521/photo/1

>>11051690

Thanks translation bear
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>>11051846
Danke
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>tfw no fox bf
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>>11052037
jerking off is a good substitute
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>>11052172
I want

the tail
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>>11052195
then grab

your dick
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I'm beginning to think Wolter might not be gay
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>>11052313
Blasphemy!
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WIP I've been working on for a little bit. It's OC, but I hope y'all like it nonetheless.
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>>11052545
No worries, I like it
This is for your larger comic? Looking forward to it, we could use more long form stories
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>>11052591
>>11052591
I don't have a larger comic exactly in the works right now; I'm kinda everywhere with my projects and free time, so everything's coming out super slow. I do have some ideas for these two though; hopefully I can do more of them really soon.
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I finally got home! I can do my nightly sign off for you all!

I miss you all. Can't tell you how much I'm looking forward to Thematic Thursday, because I want to spend the day with everyone here and have fun looking at all your creative endeavors. TT is basically the best...

Goodnight, magical and wonderful /ztp/ threads! I hope every step forward is a satisfying one, and the view to your goal becomes clearer every day!
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>>11052761
Have a goodnight, comic!
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>>11052313
Took you long enough anon
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>>11052761
Good night Comic
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>>11051342
>>11051388
>>11051504
Please BoneyM. Make the Anons happy!
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>>11053164
>High detail Rikuo

You know what'd be kind of interesting? Seeing Weaver draw one of his characters in high-detail, but in their own style
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>>11053178
I've already written a fair bit of that, between that green and some of the chapters of both Winter Snuggleses.
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>>11053208
Damn it! But thank you for helping us all sleep easier and feel comfy when awake.

I only hope you'll eventually get into Monstergirls and start writing about Kitsune tail cocooning.
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>>11053208
Americano right? Hit the hay
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>>11053254
Fuck no I'm not.
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>>11053178
I need more of Betty in my life!
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>>11053263
I can think of one thing a lot of people want that definitely hasn't been written.

Betty reading Lovecraft aloud in bed.
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>>11053279
>Betty is a fan of C'thulu mysthos and The Deep Ones

And here I was thinking I cannot like her any more than I already did.
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>>11053262
You don't have to say it like that Boner, wth.
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sneak peek of a thing i'm working on that's taking much longer than it should.

figured y'all would like it since it's jack suffering
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>>11053395
poor bun
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>>11053395
No, poor bun!
>that filename
What tool are you using for drawing?

>>11051756
Maybe he hates sheep writers and their philosophy? Maybe seemingly unreasonably mad, but he has pretty good reasons?
Or, if you want a book that creates unbridled hate, Atlas Shrugged
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>>11053395
Yes, this will do.
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What all do you think everyone buys from Pandora's?
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>>11053426
>>11053453
I know, i know. but everyone else is fapping to his pain so shhh~
>What tool
clip studio paint. I didn't care much for the default pencil brush it comes with so I made my own that's working well enough I suppose.
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>>11047171
Ayy look I drew some Zootopia again.
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>>11053497
...proceed~
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>>11053473
Dildos, mostly.
Nobody on Pack street is hurting for pussy besides Remmy "Aryan vs. Predator" Cormo, and he's too much of a chump to strut in there and buy them out of house and home.
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>>11053340
Who draw it?
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>>11053395
No suffering! knot him!
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>>11053395
>someone is strangling him
mostly but I like to see the reason he deserves it for. I don't enjoy suffering by itself.
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>>11053497
Why were we denied a naked Nick in the final product?

Disney didn't mind him being nude in that one trailer.
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>>11053526
Plot twist: It's hardcore pred play with Skye.
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>>11053495
>own pencil
Thanks!

>>11053497
We always need more naturalist panther
>That signature
Wait a second, I think I remember you. How much time has it been?
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>>11053340
Damn, that's nice; especially the shadowing
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>>11053534
Jack would be into erotic asphyxiation
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>>11053513
http://pencilsponyforge.tumblr.com/post/164025574953/quick-doodle-done-in-microsoft-surface-book-it
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>>11053586
Ty :)
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>>11053532
I think time and balancing the seriousness with the humor.

The movie had a lot of scenes cut out because it was already a very long animation, such as Judy decorating her room, and her arriving back to the police station parking the car and taking the metro/train back home and cleaning. Things just had to be cut to save time, and mostly it was the things the added no extra information or feeling.

Nick naked would've been humor, but Judy's emberassment of everyone else being nude, also yak remembering everything while Nangi remembers nothing was already a strong humor factor... there was no need to one-up it with making Judy even more emberassed, so they dropped it to save time and make us focus on the actual narrative of the story.
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This seems impractical.
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>>11053532
>>11053622 (You)
Oh, also I think it was to make Nick more likeable by everyone. I mean, I can imagen the articles it would have sprung from some SJWs:
>Disney male protagonist fox sexually harasses, and visually rapes female partner in new flick: Zootopia
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>>11053586
Oh damn, Pencils drawing a little Zoot.
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>>11053629
New and improved
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>>11053659
SJW's already skewered the movie for defending police officers and having a level headed message. I doubt that would be the reason, Nick would still be pretty likable. He practically was a smug asshole for most of the movie anyways.
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>>11053652
Please be fake news, my sides can't handle it
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>>11053848
ughghh i'm suddenly remembering all the insufferable thinkpieces about how the portrayal of minorities as predator animals was iNhErEnTlY pRoBlEmAtIc and that the night howler serum was totally an allegory for cocaine or whatever the hell.
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>>11053963
I saw a youtube video about that. Its really is far fetched to compare the two
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>>11053921
of course it is. I mean have you read the article? It talks about animals images causing hormonal release in the brain of furries causing them uncontrollable mating urges. It talks about furries as a different species, but it's funny as fuck to read
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>>11052545
I like, i do like! Thank you for sharing.
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zoosona = furry yes or no?
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>>11053963
Now I just want to see the sequel to be about interspecies couples, just to see how apeshit everyone of them will go.

>>11053776
Boney wat are u doing
Boney stahp

>>11054057
Depends on your definition of furry
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https://piczel.tv/watch/nobby


ay gimme some requests
gonna head to LA in a bit so last stream for awhile
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>>11054057
I'd personally argue more no than yes, simply because furries are usually anthropomorphic and have exaggerated/unrealistic features (eg. "Sparkledog") while Zoosonas largely stick to the actual physical characteristics of the original animal in an attempt to keep it at least semi-canonical.

TL;DR: Arguably different subset from standard furry
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>>11054068
>Fur-y = Zoo-fan
>Furry = Zoot!
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>>11054083
Translation bear and wife doing something super comf (Not lewd)?

P-pls
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>>11054083
>gonna head to LA in a bit so last stream in a while
Fun! I hope you have a good time, nobbo. How about a Nick and Judy sleepyhead for the road?
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>>11054083
A furry I mean zoosona wanting to be fleshy
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>>11054112
what

>>11054111
wait like asleep while driving or asleep on a road
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>>11054083
>>11054106

This plz
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>>11054088
By the way, do you think that furries have a bad reputation due to wearing costume or because they are sex maniacs? Us at 4chan are kinda... no better desu
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>>11054119
nobby, "for the road" is just an idiom, I meant more just a normal picture of Nick and Judy sleeping together on a couch or something.
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>>11053543
I still draw Zootopia stuff once in a while, just not as often as I did when the movie was still new.
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>>11054083
Teabro last comic made me think
We need more tubedudes in cute maid outfits, so I I'm gonna request this (which tubedude you choose)
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>>11054119
Nvm just Nick and Jude like the other anon said would be fine
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>>11054083
Draw a picture of Nick like this
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>>11054119
I think they meant "How about drawing Nick and Judy being sleepy, before you (Nobby) depart for your journey?"

At any rate, I highly doubt Nick or Judy would let the other drive while exhausted; even less likely to let them sleep on the street

Not when they're such P L A T O N I C friends
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>>11053963
>>11053986
I thought the whole "night-howler allagory" was an interesting coincidence but that is all it was. Pretty obvious any similarities to anything were unintentional.

Thinking on early reviews for the movie, the thing that annoyed me a lot was whenever someone stated "of course Judy was scared of Nick, foxes ate bunnies!" Ignoring the fact that the movie states at the beginning it had been ages since that was anywhere near a thing.
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>>11054135
Perceived sex maniacs for sure. Nearly every fandom on planet earth has dressing up to some extent
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>>11054160
i'm gonna be honest dude that's gtoo many words and i only read past the first paragraph im sorry man

i can do sleepy
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>>11054083
hardcore lesbian porn with Betty claiming Avo
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>>11054185
Don't worry, the greentext is an old one that was just to add to the joke that they're "platonic" friends
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>>11054201
i meant in your post man im sorry
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>>11054210
Assuming you're in the US, it's like 4am so don't worry about it
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>>11054083
last stream for a while?

gazelle & nick on a date, with judy stalking them
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>>11049065
Thanks
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>>11054140

I remember you!

You drew this cute pic of Honey & Nick. Good to see you again!
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>>11053237

I need background characters for a fic that can be described in one or two lines. I'm thinking of using Percy (Nervous tube in sweater), but I can't remember what his actual species is...
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>>11054083
Nick bath in Jack and bogos cums while he kissing Jack
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>>11054287
Polecat
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>>11054287
looks like a yuro polecat?

>>11054299
what the fuck
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>>11054392
most of stuff she draws seems to be just the same thing we do just swap gender.
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>>11054422
Zootopia and the fandom made me extremly tolerant I think. I seriously have no problem with many things that I've found disturbing in the past. That mpreg stuff... I don't really care, I can just accept it because it's made purely from adoration of the source material and it's characters...

which really makes me wonder why I hate borba and zaush with such fury. I really don't feel like reading their works that they like and repsect zootopia, they just... use them as they see fit... and that's something that really grinds my gears.
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>>11054481
>I hate borba and zaush with such fury

He made super fucking gay
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>>11054481


i dare you to tolerate THIS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb-JkGbGxAk
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>>11054509
I'm not even hating on gay nick that much, there are a bunch of fanarts and even the bogo x nick comics, those don't piss me off that much...

but yeah, that "turning the snarky dominant character into a cocksleve" might be the reason in adam wan's case. In borba's case. It really is just the OOC fallacy stuff that he wrote only to say "I do what I want and everyone who has a problem with it is an idiot"

>>11054551
I have seen it on amazon last year, I really have nothing wrong. There are spinners with everything, it's just lazy design choice, but what do you expect from bootleg stuff.
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>>11054106
>>11054122
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>>11051552
Who drew this? (It's pretty good)
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>>11054481
>which really makes me wonder why I hate borba and zaush with such fury
It's like you said after this, the reason is that there is no respect for the original work.
Borba tried to cram is vision of a stereotypical group in both Nick and Judy, without considering the previous character. Those are the bunny and the fox we know, those are their hollowed husks with transplanted another brain. How one can see that? Simple, you substitute them with something else (for example a potato and a tomato) and you can see that the work doesn't change a bit.
Zaush took the right interpretation... for the first couple of pages. Then they are simply puppet that can take cocks the size of their arms with ease. One can say, hey it's a porn comic, but that doesn't mean that you can treat well established characters like an usual furry cocksock.

>>11054616
Damn that's comfy Nobby
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>>11054616
This is too fucking precious, holy shit.
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>>11054083
How about Sydney driving a motorcycle with Artemis in the sidecar?
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hey guise, how are you doing?
Did anyone try drawing Jiji during my absence?
Again thanks to Reply for pic related
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>>11054683
OH MY GOSH YES

SYDNEY IN BIKER LEATHERS AND A FULL HELMET

ARTEMIS WITH A GOOFY HALF HELMET
>>
I finally found a zootopia example of polishing a turd. Not even TIWTLLL managed to make me call that because there was atleast something behind it, some seriousness, some meaning, even if it was presented a bit lazily, the comic TRIED to justify it.

Not check this out. The most horribly OOC and nonsensical piece of crap porn comic (WITH A PITBULL), redrawn in color.
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>>11054712
Wait...

this is the "Bonnie cucks Stu with two dogs" comic?!
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>>11054712
I'm not sure if I want to see more of this comic or not.
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>>11054726
You don't.
>>
https://discord.gg/RvBdsm
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>>11054723
1 dog, a pitbull which knocks her up and she divorces stu for him... the only thing that would make it even more cringe if it would be Judy cheating and divorcing Nick...

But the artists started to rant about it that he had to make this comic to deal with some issues he had IRL with a gf cheating on him because the guy had bigger cock, so the girl was weak-minded, taken over by lust...

the guy really sees woman as half-humans easliy brainwashable with sex.

I vomited a bit reading his comments about his own intentions for the comic.
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>>11054709
Artemis seems more like the cautious type then Sydney, but either way, imagine them wearing goggles.
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>>11054647
Seems Rose?
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>>11054756
Don't forget, Bonnie gets half the kids in the divorce. Imagine having custody of nearly a hundred and fifty kids who all hate you for being a complete whore.
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>>11054083
Al and Remmy getting drunk and both having an emotional moment of sad self reflection on their shitty lives.
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>>11054756
very feels-y
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>>11054083

Remmy smoking a cig on balcony while looking at ease, kinda badass, maybe little bit of Betty expression, or just how he could look if he was not so uptight all the time.
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>>11054712
>Buckley
>>11054756
>Knocks her up

... Is this loss?
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>>11054840
>Shitty lives
Al has a fiancee who loves him, stable employment, and the respect of his peers, which is more than most of us can say.
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>>11054083
Sleight of hand Nobby
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>>11054083

A pleasured Martina soaking her panties through with bliss (Precum or a full load)
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>>11054861
But when they are within four walls, she turns into an abusive, manipulative bitch that slowly wear on Al psyche.
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>>11048915
inferior species
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>>11054896

no, anon, you're thinking of gazelle. Both hoofers, I know, easy mistake.
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>>11054861
Yeah I know, but he lives in really low income part of town, his job probably does not earn much + all the harrasment from his boss, and his peers that respect him are more or less low-lifes. He might feel like he is not enough for Velvet or that he hoped for a little bit more in his life.
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>>11054834
not to mention the already grown up "children" like Judy. I imagined they would lynch the dog the moment they find out he's been fucking their mom... would've been more realistic considering all the country wibe. Shit might be writing a green of it once I get home
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>>11054190
>>
>>11054902
>are more or less low-lifes
that's literally just Charlie.
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>>11054910
I'll take your place, Avo!
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>>11054756
>the only thing that would make it even more cringe if it would be Judy cheating and divorcing Nick...

or you know judy is part pitbull part bun and that's why she goes for fox dick
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>>11048915
this drawing in inaccurate to zoot style. She should be standing on her ankles not on the toes.
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>>11053629
>>11053776
Where is the original! I wants it
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>>11054140
There's two cameras, one for the news, and one for public use for the news company.
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>>11054911
>wolter has been in jail for jailbait
>anneke literally skanky whore
>avo is a porn shop wage slave

sheepdog still sucks
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>>11054930
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>>11054923
It's snowflake-ism, don't bother about it. Same with people giving horse fingers, 4 toes and people drawing bunnies more feral despite the movie setting them otherwise. Just treat it like Bellwether eyes if it triggers you so much.
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>>11054943
This pic is sexy as fuck.
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>>11054911

Ackchyually!

Examples of people often labeled low-lives include thieves, drug dealers, hustlers, freeloaders, scammers, gangsters, drug users, alcoholics, thugs, prostitutes, pimps, criminals and troubled teenagers associated with and involved in the aforementioned activities.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-life

>>11054939
>wolter has been in jail for jailbait
I do not think he was in jail. Avo only said he was in trouble for something like that.

>anneke literally skanky whore
Not really. She is no virgin but I do not think she is just piece of cumsoaked meat.

>avo is a porn shop wage slave
tru

>sheepdog still sucks
you mofo
>>
>>
>>11054976
I remember this artist
>rip their comic!
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>>11054481
I can't say much for Borba, I don't hate him but could care less.
Zaush on the other hand infuriates me because he fucking injects his un-comfy cucking and swinger mentality into everything.
Its depressing enough that his work has stagnated so much in general: his art pretty much peaked in 2006 and from there it has flatlined; with the only change being towards orgies, veiled cub, and cucking fetish which is like 98% of his content.
But to fuck with zootopia with his determinedly un-comfy mentality...

No Zaush. Get. the. FUCK. OUT.
>>
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Trying to do draws, but nothing works today, maybe give requests to see if prompts will help
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>>11054135
Its because of drama and the flamboyant nature of the fandom for sure
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>>11055115
Source?
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>>11054910
I want Betty to lick me like that because she's worried about me killing myself and wants me to stick around. Which is a weird feel, since I'm not depressed or suicidal.
>>
>>11055136
Honey, Fin and the smoll hustlers snoozing after a long day of hustles?
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>>11055136
Rinehart under the rain
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>>11054083
Wolter and Anneke hanging out topless. Neither one really cares about the others' nudity.
>>
>>11054956

anneke and wolter aren't turbo-sluts
they have a healthy sex drive, but with the difference that they also have virtually no physical standards on who they bring to bed due to being blind as fuck

they aren't at remmy-tier thirst levels
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>>11055115
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Nick
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>>11055292

is
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>>11055292
What about him?
>>
>>11055299
a
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>>11055303
cucumber
>>
>>11055303

cuck
>>
>>11055313
fucking
>>
>>11055303
>>11055313
>>11055316

cuckcumber
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>>11055303
bum
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>>11055300
I'm just stating that its Nick. As this one is Judy
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>>11055328

is
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>>11055328
Interesting. I will add your data to my collection.
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>>11055328
But that's clearly a kitty cat...
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Jack
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I wonder what would happen if one day, a CC we all know and love make a "hateable" thing (kinda like Borba and the like)
Will we accept it, or will we run them down?
I certainly hope that the later would never happen
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Skye
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A tube
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A hoofer
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Spaghetti
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>>11055396
I hope the latter, sorry if it hurts le feelings but if you create shit you get shit. The only good thing here is even through all the circlejerk people are still allowed to be honest. If weaver wants to add a message about BLM and abortions and Charlotteville and fucking anti-vac comic on Pack Street, will you fucking suck his dick over telling him to eat shit because it will hurt his fweewings? Grow a fucking spine, CCs have.
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>>11055395
is a needledicked cuck
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Oatmeal.
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>>11055436
>>
>>11055413
Woof, I always knew that tubes were lewd but damn, that is the lewdest tube I have ever seen.
>>
Heterosexual intercourse with two married individuals of the same species for the sole purpose of procreation under the sheet with the lights out.
>>
>>11054083
Hey nobby if you're still taking request how about some RemmyxBetty lewd to hold us up for awhile. If not, then I hope you have fun in LA!!!
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>>11055454
What kind of fetish is this?
>>
>>11055454
At least it's not handholding
>>
>>11055464
The most forbidden one of all.

I actually wish I was joking. Man, divorce rates suck.
>>
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A sandwich
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>>11055353
>traced human body
>the head is LITERALLY scaled up and shopped on
fucking nuzzo
>>
>>11055585
head was shooped by one anon
>>
Thread challenge.

Come up with a plot that gives the Wicked treatment to Zootopia.

Make Bellwether the hero.
>>
>>11055667
She already is.
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>Pack Street
The base Zootopia spinoff that features a sheep antagonist as the main character living with preds
>Back Street
The sheep works as a pimp
>Crack Street (A)
The pack makes and sells drugs, the sheep is investigating
>Crack Street (B)
It's the original story except everyone wears their pants so low you can see their asscracks (just like a real ghetto)
>Flak Street
It's World War Zoo and the pack has to man a flak cannon to defend against Sheepolis bomber raids. Remmy is a captured POW.
>Hack Street
Gibson: Hacked
>Jack Street
Remmy is a donkey. That's it.
>Plaque Street
Brush your goddamn teeth
>Quack Street
Everyone thinks they're a professional psychologist and tries to give each other advice they're not even close to qualified to give
>Rack Street
BIG TIDDY BITCHES
>Sack Street
Remmy just wants a sack of potatoes
>Shack Street
There is no apartment. It's a collection of shacks
>Smack Street
Everyone keeps getting violent
>Snack Street
Someone is ALWAYS eating
>Yak Street
Remmy is a yak
>Lact Street
Everyone is female. Everyone lactate. All the time.
>Pact Street
Don't violate Ozzy's NAP in this AnCap spinoff
>Fact Street
SheepFacts chapter, except that's now every single update
>Knack Street
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4bJcrP35-k
>>
>>11055658
ITT: i get fucking bodied

>>11055667
"So if you dare to find me, look to the [m a y o r a l o f f i c e]!"
"As someone told me lately, everyone deserves a chance to [d a r t p r e d s]!"
"And if I'm [d a r t]ing solo, at last I'm [d a r t]ing free!"
"To those that [w o u l d s e n d m e t o p r i s o n f o r m y t e r r o r i s t a c t i o n s], take a message back from me!"
>>
>>11055724
Stop spinning like that you hoofer
>>
Did that anon update that greentext wall of OC's?

>Worship Weaver

was on he start I believe.
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>>11055724

>sack street

We know the real reason.
>>
>>11055724
>>Quack Street
>Everyone thinks they're a professional psychologist and tries to give each other advice they're not even close to qualified to give

This would be incredible.
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>>11054762
>>11054647
Yeah, it's just me.
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>>11055817
>That athletic body
Damn
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>>11055817
Dat's a cute King Cheetah, Rose
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>>11055817
Nice!
>>
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>>11055881
What a lewdable bun, can I lewd her?
>>
>>11055908
I don't know
CAN you?
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>>11055914
Sigh... No I can't. I wish I could
>>
>>11055754
not OCs, CCs

>Worship the Weaver
>Fondle the Fuel
>Rub the Rose
>Rim the Replyanon
>Nuzzle the Nobby
>Arouse the A_sig
>Grope the Gud Goat
>Hold the High Cow
>Nom the NAH
>Hump the Henrietta
>Lick the Lulu
>Muzzlefuck the Mint
>Grind the Grivaire
>Lewd the Lou
>Suckle the Ciwi
>Tumble with Tegaki
>Wiggle with Waga
>Screw the Swatfox
>Bang the Bate
>Cuddle the Canidae
>Innuendo the Inky
>Bone the Boney
>Fuck the Famished
>Finger the Foxbutt
>Bind the Bebop
>Drill the Donk
>Masturbate the Moped
>Grapple the Gerard
>Kiss the Kam
>Massage the Mead
>Oral the Oak
>Foreplay with Flak
>Finish with Fanart
>Handjob the Heresy
>Jerk off the Jam
>Knead the Knight
>Bust in Bore
>Nibble the Nikolu
>Vibrate the Visti
>Tap the Teabro
>Ravage the RC
>Penetrate the Pho
>Whet the Wynn
>Orgasm the OJ
>Pastor the Prester John
>Ride the Raccoonfag
>Jack off the JackFields
>Peg the PseudoFox
>Churn the Civecat
>Violate the VRbit
>>
>>11055762
With balls like that, Betty is about to take the biggest load of her life
>>
>>11054896
>al secretly respects remmy for standing up to her that one time
>>
>>11055928
>Finger the Fuchs
>>
>>11055932
The fluid comes from the prostate, not the balls
>>
>>11055928
>not OCs, CCs

oh yeah, for some reason I had Original Creator in my mind wtf
>>
>>
>>11055928
>Henrietta
>CC
m80eight
>>
>>11055730
"And nobody"
"No [stinking fox]"
"No [bunny] that there is or was"
"Is ever gonna bring me down!"
>>
>>11055957
Shh anon, you're going to destroy the magic for him.
>>
>>11055957
I know. Its just me being lewd
>>
>>11055957
I did not know that...
Thanks anon for teaching me something.
>>
>>11056043
Now you know why prostates are amazing
>>
>>11056043
american sex education, ladies and gentlemen
(i'm making an assumption)
>>
>>11054140
when will you draw full lewd?
>>
>>11056062
Not american actually, I was just not paying much attention during high school over all.
>>
>>11055932

The biggest loads of people's lives is my fetish.

>>11055957

Don't ruin this for us.
>>
>>11056062
>>11056095
To be fair, depending where you are in the US this isn't usually taught in schools.
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All this talk about balls makes me wonder how large are the VRbit's balls?
>>
i want a small wolf boy to cuddle with /ztg/
>>
>>11056122

Absolutely massive. Each jet of his cum has the volume of the entirety of a lesser mammal's orgasm.
>>
>>11056122
Virtually non-existent
>>
>>11056119

Depending on where you are in the US, the teachers are required by law to teach false information.

Fucked up, innit.
>>
>>11056162
source?
>>
>>11056162

citation: dumb pred
>>
>>11056170
>>11056185
the "abstanance" method of sex ed, which is counter-productive and harmful
>>
NEW THREAD

>>11056195

>>11056195

>>11056195
>>
>>11056194
Did you know that VD cases have been generally rising since modern sex education got started in the 60s?
>>
>>11056228
Did you know the population has gone from 179,323,175 to 326,474,013?
It makes sense that VD cases would increase considering there are twice as many people.
>>
>>11056260
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2598671/figure/fig13/

Not if the increase is more than double
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