Drawing Improvement/Progress Thread Previous edition: desua

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Didn't get a response last thread, how's my doodle?

>>10688669
A Drawing discord for those interested:

https://discord.gg/FfEU7th

>>10688669
What happen to the last thread?

>>10692583
it died when everybody was asleep

>>10692583
died because this thread is fucking garbage and should stop being made

>>10692704
(you)'s a bitch

>>10690899
To heck with you mine's better (and gayer)
https://discord.gg/ARBGvEt

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Here are some coaster tans I made. What do you think?
Cedar Fair
-Millennium Force from Cedar Point
-Banshee from Kings Island
-The Beast from Kings Island
Six Flags
-X2 from Six Flags Magic Mountain
Other
-The Smiler from Alton Towers

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So I tried tone stuff again. I haven't practiced or even really drawn anything in about five months. I'm obviously not done with it but I want to hear if you people think i'm going in the right direction or if I'm demonstrating some lack of fundamental knowledge. I went in with a reference and I didn't really do any refreshment reading on tone or anything.

what should i draw?

>>10697838
Hands, lots and lots of hands

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Here's a bunch of thicc I did while work was being boring.

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Here's a study I'm working on. Mostly done, just want to darken it a little bit more.

>>10697500
Yeah, value studies are a good thing to practice. Needs more refinement before you can say anything else about it though. That's looks like only 10 minutes of work, although maybe it took you longer if you don't draw often. Should be interesting to see how you manage with value transitions on sharp edges, cause right now everything blurs into everything else.

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>>10697838
Bunnies. Lots of bunnies.

Practice

>>10700455
Seconding this, hands require a lot of practice.

>>10697838
Dicks. Lots of dicks

Stupid trash, slow the fuck up.

>>10702111
I like this quite a bit. What medium are you working in?

If I keep drawing, will my desire to draw come back? I don't feel that urge to do it anymore.

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Here's another coaster tan.
Oblivion from Alton Towers.

>>10702111
The value thing took me an hour and 20 minutes. And I do intend to refine this further, but I get lost on details really easily, and the large, blurry value changes are a lot easier to see then all the small sharp edges when I get into that mindset.

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A little something that I was working on today. Still a massive WIP and the screenshot is a little differentry from what it is now, but was curious if it was trashy enough.
Just trying to draw more.
Finding out that drawing smut is making me learn more.

>>10706427
Just a sketchbook and mechanical pencil, although I might use some charcoal to darken it further cause I'm not really satisfied with the value range.

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Here are tutorials on the importance of perspective that I made.

I hope it helps somebody out.

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>>10710657

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>>10710657
>>10710676
Also, I'm currently making this.
Does anybody have any tips on how to render metal?

>>10710657
Work on your line quality. Try starting with a low opacity brush, and gradually add value to your lines by repeatedly drawing over them to get the thickness and value that you desire.

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>>10710841
I'm not sure what you mean by line quality, and I think I need a visual representation to really get it.

I try and get strong, fluctuating lines, but I can't really get what I want all the time, and I usually settle like right here

>>10710841
I think I'll try your method though, but I'm not sure I'm really going to understand what you're telling me. I think you might be saying my lines are too final the first time around, and I need to experiment via the opacity tool and be more free with it.

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>>10697500
>>10702111
>>10708983

This is after another hour of tinkering around with the values and brushes in photoshop. I know it doesn't look much different, I'd like to know how the hard shadows underneath the nose look. I feel like I should try to avoid making it all look so smudgey but I don't really know how to do that in photoshop. I've been trying a combination of the paint mixer brush and this other scripted tool based on the smudge tool.

Is loli OK if posted for critique?

>>10716859
sure why not

>>10697838
Bannons, lots and lots'a Bannons

>>10711410
>>10710657
>>10711410
Your lines are just a little bit shaky and crooked, but I like the weight on that helmet. Useful little tutorial too, although a bit messy. You should really spend more time drawing quality lines if you're gonna do a tutorial though.
>>10710841
>>10711431
>Try starting with a low opacity brush
I don't agree with that. That doesn't result in good lines. Rendering sure, but not lines. I guess you could stylize your lines that way, but I don't think that applies to most people. Digitally, lines look best when done in one confident, hard, perfect length stroke. And yeah sure add thickness by drawing over if you need to, but looking at his helmet his line weight is not at all an issue.

>>10714500
You need to go into more detail, cause everything is still really blurry and blended. I can't really say much about the nose, the whole thing is not coming together yet. Maybe post your reference.
The next time you spend an hour on that, dedicate it to one very focused area, like his lips. Get started on those sharp details taking into account any gloss, small cracks, transition from upper lip to lower lip etc. Lower your brush size as needed.

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>>10718583
wip

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I hate ellipses.

>>10723813

you do it TWICE! not just one stroke, but two!

>>10692704
Fuck off, d/ic/khead.

>>10719581
Im the dude who was doing the tone drawing.

Is it better to focus on the small details first? I have a better time when I do a rough overall portrait to fill up with details afterward. its relieving to me to have work like this laid out in a clear, easy to gage state, and it also always felt easier to work with larger planes and volumes first, then to detail those.

Oh hey it's back. Needed all those digital books

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? Been drawing for a year...

Page 9 already. Wow maybe we should wait until ever thursday to do these type of thread.

>>10729987
>Is it better to focus on the small details first?
Normally no, but it seems to me like you're getting locked up at that stage and you feel like you're not ready to advance. I think you need practice working on details so you become more comfortable with the whole process.

Have you tried drawing still life? You might need that practice. It's a very efficient intro to rendering realistically.

>>10732912
Very little. One piece of advice I keep getting is to draw things that interest me. Otherwise, when there's no passion or interest; especially in practice, I simply don't make much real progress. I know how unlikely it is to learn nothing at all after practicing, but so far that has been a pretty real and pressing problem for me.

Anyway I just got a free minute so I'll get back to working on that tone thing, I'll post whatever I've got in like an hour.

>>10732912
Also I should mention,
I really don't care that much for being able to render things realistically. But as a culmination of all the advice I've been getting from these threads and other places, I get the impression that I NEED to learn it, that it's fundamental. A lot of people call it mandatory even.

All I really want is to find a nice place between cartoonish/anime illustration and realism, a place where I can draw comfortably and satisfactorily without any pressure.

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Guys why do i feel so bad when i start drawing. Its literally one of the things i like doing most but i get anxious as fuck. I cant stop overthinking everything to the point where all the fun gets sucked out. Ihavent drawn in close to a year and i fucking cry when i think about it. I WANT TO DRAW. Has anyone been in my situation? God, id give anything for my autistic brain to let me draw

Finally got around to colouring and "shading" this piece. Whaddoya think?

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>>10734675
And I forgot to post the fucking thing.
How embarrassing
>>10734623
I know this feel, man. Almost everything I draw I get nothing but self doubt about. I just push through it and do as much as I can.

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>>10714500
>>10719581
I'm out of time tonight.
But I spent an hour focusing on the lips and lower chin/jawline. I didn't finish everything I wanted to get done, but I wasn't rushing it. I was feeling really comfortable with it when I got into a certain rhythm, but it almost seems like that wound up being detrimental to the drawing, ultimately.

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I can't draw for the life of me digitally. But my pencil stuff is better, faster, and stronger too. This is however is not the first member of the DK crew.

No, it is simply a deer about to enjoy a day at the beach.

>>10735175
It's not great, but I think it's a definite improvement. The lower lip has a greater feeling of volume than anything else in your piece, so keep at it. You can focus on a different detail now. Grind it and chisel it in little bits like that until you see it coming together. Then you can go back and fix things if you're not satisfied.
And about still life, I'm not super interested in drawing that either. But after doing it the first time, things really clicked for me in how values and transitions work. For me it's not about the subject matter, it's about understanding how light works, which is fascinating. Still life works so well because it's much easier to understand compared to something more complicated like the complex shapes of a face, so it was initially much more fun and easy for me compared to the daunting task of a portrait. Ultimately you're right to draw what you like best. But if you're struggling drawing what you like, it might be better to force yourself to do one or two still life pieces to get a handle on the process.

>>10734623
Do studies. Put your overthinking brain to work. Or copy your favorite artist.

>>10734717
Very stylized, but not that appealing. You probably need to work on your fundamentals. Head is offset from neck. If you want the head to be tilted like that, bend the neck that way too. Right hand is weird as well.

>>10734623
I still do that all the time despite my notable progress. Fight it. Let yourself get mad, huff and puff, yell a little if you can, then sit back down and draw.

That's what I do. I get wound up, then I let loose. And I can focus on the task at hand.

>>10737937
TAKE IT TO THE FRIDGE

>>10734623
That's just excuses.

When I draw I imagine final result to be as twise is good as it has turned out.
Yeah, that's a shame but I would rather move one, start next piece from a scratch and do studies in the middle trying to focus on things that I think would suit my next work.

Is there some free program where I can place human figure in all posotions I want and rotate to look from any angle?
My imagination still can't fully imagine the image I think about.

>>10739150
There's are a few options.
http://anatomy360.info/
http://www.posemaniacs.com/
http://www.dessinpose.com/poseviewer/
Skeleton: https://www.kineman.com/new/webapp/eula.php
There's also Design Doll. You can make your own model references and pose them however you like. Fairly intuitive, although the free version doesn't let you save anything, so every time you use it you will have to modify and pose your model.

>>10739222
Thank you very much

Bamp

Any tips on coloring or shading?
It's kinda a downer to draw something and botch it with a horrid paintjob.

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>>10735175
Tried adding the eye and eyebrows.

>>10739222
nice refs, trips

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Working on a castle for my portfolio.

>>10744284
Getting better. Good job.

>>10746485
thanks love, that is a cool castle design.

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I'm working on a bee with tits, lol.
I'm refining the body atm before I continue with inking.

Does anyone have any tips on the 'thickness' of your lines for inking/line art?

Do you guys stick with the same brush size and rely on the pressure to shift between brush sizes?
Or do you adjust the brush size manually throughout the inking process?

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Made a wasp wolf.

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Bloodsucker from S.T.A.L.K.E.R

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>>10750012
Attempt at a different style with the Bloodsucker

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Trying new inking method.

>>10748001
I use whatever feels right at the moment. Sometimes I adjust the brush size, sometimes I don't adjust the size and just make use of lighter pressure, sometimes I go over the same line multiple times. I probably do everything in equal measure.

G'night

bump bc of boardsliding

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A piece i did a while back

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So this is about 6 months or so progress.

Anybody got advice on how to improve further? Besides the obvious of buying a scanner, pencils and not using scrap paper like a fag.

Also anybody got tablet recommendations? How do they differ in terms of friction / feel to paper? I find it difficult to draw on a low-friction surface.

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I keep missing those threads

Here's a thing I've put most effort in past week or so. It's half-finished but I'm not touching it anymore mostly because I can't do shading/colors right yet. If someone wants to rip me a new one, you're welcome, just don't put too much effort in it because I'm dense anyway.

My basic human proportions still suck though, this was more of a lucky fluke though and this picture has no almost perspective at all so it's easier. I need to practice but I'm too lazy.

I'll try to make some replies for select neglected posts later to get the thread going, but take those with a grain of salt.

>>10760312
I like this

I find it to get the right pose is the biggest challenge for me. I may struggle for several days just because I can't get it how should I place the character to achieve some kind of obscure angle I had in mind.

>>10759919
Not bad at all. The mouth needs a bit of work though.

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just drew this for /vp/
r8 me

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>>10759919
Nose/eyes seem a bit skewed

>>10762170
that's a lot of lines

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>>10762413
I don't have a pencil near me
I just drew this
also for /vp/

You all suck, none of you faggots can even fathom the massive difference in skill that I have above you all.

>>10762509
I mean I would doubt that you're better than me
I'm >>10762170 and >>10762431 btw

>>10762525
*wouldn't
sorry for the typo

>>10762170
>>10762431
stop shitposting

>>10760020

thanks for drawing that in the other thread btw

also thanks for the before and after, very motivating for beginner

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>>10709359
oh shit I like this a lot
>>10696498
cute,keep at it anon

>>10763132

Thank you for the kind words anon!

Friendly reminder: it's very hard to give meaningful critique on heavily stylized artwork, especially if it's scrappy

If there's no anatomy, perspective, gesture, no interesting colors, no effort went into line weight, etc. there's not much to evaluate.

Different anon to add to this. Get a good grasp on fundamentals before you develop a style, because you'll end up masking your errors as your style.

>>10760020
First, about the scanner: I'd reconsider buying a scanner, or at least be wary when you choose one, maybe test before buying it.

I have a scanner and it's not very useful when scanning pencil drawings (I haven't touched pencil in a real while though), because it has a bright lamp that can't be adjusted, so it messes up values. Very light pencil is gone and very dark pencil is kinda bright because graphite reflects the light from the lamp very well.

I think taking photos with a camera is quite a good option, because then your drawings will look in digital the same as they look to you when you draw.

>>10760020
Second, yes, use non-lined paper, I can't stress that enough. There's really no reason not to use one, hell, you can even use thick scrap paper that has been printed on from one side.

Other than grind anatomy/poses a bit, her right hand looks broken, wrist is too thin, deltoid is stressed while it probably shouldn't be, distance between boobs the shoulder is pretty big, I can't tell if the hand on the right belongs to someone else or it's twisted, etc. You've made pretty good progress in 6 months, so you'll probably get much better if you keep the pace.

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Trying to do a set design from reference. It's so much easier when you have the building blocks in place.

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>>10765620
And reference.

100

Fucking trash and its garbage threads.

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>>10688669
been strictly traditional for years. whats the biggest leap between traditional and digital?

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>>10769500
also willing to post art

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Colored a pic.

>>10769500
For me it just trying draw on tablet I wasn't looking at. I didnt realize how much feedback actually seeing my hand gave me. Pen settings are also a bitch. The worst part might be that I now cant draw traditioanlly anymore without some struggling.

>>10769579
why the closer feet is smaller than further one?

>>10770735
Oops, didn't notice that.

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I made this over the weekend. I'm not really happy with the expressions so I think that'll be something I tackle for studying next.

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>>10734623
Meditate
Not even joking. Disregard spiritual bullshit and deeper meaning of yourself if you want. I've been meditating lately and it's brought me back from the brink of giving up on drawing and made me keep going till the early hours of the morning.
A lot of it is just taking time away from constant stimulation and letting your dopamine receptors resensitize themselves, but it also helps a lot with other parts of your brain.
I'm not even trying to be preachy, but fuck me it's helped a lot with my motivation and will to learn.

At worst you lose 15 minutes of the day. At best you unfuck your brain and give yourself a more positive outlook.

>>10769500
It takes a while to get used to the feel of drawing on a tablet, whether it has a display or not. Then there's getting used to digital drawing tools. It's worth it though.

>>10773808
How do you meditate?

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Messing around in paint.net in an attempt at contour drawing, used a mouse

Partway through the left hand image I realized I was drawing the >He does it for free dog.

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>>10774054
Other thing I drew

Night

>>10774029
Not that anon, but general idea is that you sit for X minutes and don't think about anything in particular during that time. Don't plan, contemplate or dream. Usually you sit comfortably with closed eyes, no loud noises, focusing on how your body feels right now.

There is a lot of guided meditation audio tracks on the internet that explain it more or less, e.g. Calm has a free introduction to meditation, or you might want to check youtube.

There's no spiritual mumbo-jumbo, it's just situps for brain that teach you how to focus on your current activity and reduce the amount of distracting thoughts. It's also pretty hard, I never could make meditation a thing for me and ususally drop it after a week or two, but when I manage to go through with it, it really helps.

>>10771165

coloring is good, but think what you draw

>>10776007
Basically this. It's balls hard for me too since I have ADHD and deal with excessive daydreaming, but when I push on long enough it becomes really easy to keep going. Limiting myself to 15 minutes means I won't be so tempted to quit early, but the plan is to increase the time spent.
There's a lot of different styles of meditation but open monitoring/mindfulness meditation has been my goto. Trying my hand with Vipassana right now and it's kicking my ass, but I feel ridiculously calm and attentive afterwards.

For the guy asking, I'd just say start with mindfulness meditation. It's pretty simple and straightforward and has a good amount of research backing it. If you don't like it then again, you only lost 15 minutes out of your day.

Draw

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worthless thread, stop bumping this shit
none of these artists will ever be any good

>>10778693
>couldn't make it so you try to get others to not make it
Get out of here /ic/

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>>10778746
>le scapegoating because I don't want to admit I suck xD
cut your hands off so you can stop posting this shitty thread

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>>10778782
When did I say I don't suck? This is just a hobby, I'm not trying to be the next kim jung gi.

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>>10778862
neener neener

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>>10778693

Don't be such a negative Nelly anon.

>>10778693
Bump

>>10688669
I extremely want to get into the drawing scene, but I don't know where to get started exactly. Can any fellow anons point me to the right direction of a newcomer?

>>10780289
Get into drawing itself or into whoring out your art. If the former read the book(s) in the OP FAQ. Also, make sure you get it down as a habit so you do it every day.

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Should've done a study instead

>>10780836
This

I'm finding less reasons to draw anything for myself because I'm shit and really should study

I don't get how people can delude themselves so much and not think their work isn't shit in the 1-3 year mark

I keep seeing people who are at 10 years saying they aren't good and it's like, fuck you. no your good asshole, you don't get to complain about superficial miniscule shit. It's like, does anyone really fucking remember what it's like to start from zero and be shit for years on end when they finally have been good for 5+ years?

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Made this in honor of Georgia Cyclone closing.
Georgia Cyclone from Six Flags Over Georgia.

>>10780922
I think you need to be a little bit humble if you wanna succeed at drawing. But yeah, it can be discouraging to newbies when they hear someone good say stuff like that. There's a Sycra video where he looks back through his old stuff and calls it bad, although it was quite decent. Everyone in the comments felt like shit because they compared themselves with old Sycra.

>>10780922
>I keep seeing people who are at 10 years saying they aren't good and it's like, fuck you. no your good asshole, you don't get to complain about superficial miniscule shit. It's like, does anyone really fucking remember what it's like to start from zero and be shit for years on end when they finally have been good for 5+ years?
I think it's more or less a matter of perspective, there is a "personal good enough" and "average good enough".

As you get better, your standards grow, because you need to be aware of your shortcomings to improve.

I know it sounds awful when someone leagues above you says "My artwork is shit" and you think "What is my artwork then?", but I guess this is just how it works. I guess one of the keys to success is to learn not to get upset too much over being shit.

Plus it's just easier to undersell yourself.

>>10780345
The thing is its a pretty easy habit to break. Once you make it a habbit you'll just feel bad when you skip a day...for a few days

Speaking of studying and habits, I'm thinking of re-thinking my approach to pursuit fine farts.

I'm currently trying to do 20 gestures before I sit and draw something, but I find it exhausting and I don't think I'm making good use of it yet.

At the same time only god knows when it was the last time I did a full blown study.

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Where do you people get the will to draw from? When did you start?

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>>10784955
Well personally, drawing is a good outlet for me to articulate my ideas onto a physical medium. I hate when ideas swirl about in my head without a way to get it out. It also helps that I enjoy learning when I have a genuine interest in something. I only really started to get serious fairly recently, previously it was on and off.

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>>10744284
Tried getting the teeth in, but I was more preoccupied with shortening the nose. For some reason I keep making it too long, even in each correction I make I wind up slowly adding on and getting it out of proportion.

That said, I don't even know if the lips/teeth look any better right now, I got distracted by the nose.

>>10765620
Thats awesome. You diverged from the reference in a really cool way.

I don't know about that cardboard box though, ha.

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>>10772845
I like this, your character design is very loose and varied, aside from the ultra giga digimon.

>>10769579
I member this from a thread or six ago. Nice.

>>10780289
Gotta find something you want to draw. If you don't have passion, give up.

>>10783066
Warm-ups are sorta useless, unless you're trying to feel out a pose or find something to do.

>>10784955
I'm good at it. I was good when I started, but that's because I tried reeeeeeally fucking hard.

>>10787425
Don't over work it dude. You'll get burnt out/hung up. Eyebrow looks dope tho.

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>>10784955

I started drawing what I liked, start with what you like, or would like to draw, or what you find most fun to draw. Draw, and study, that's it, and by studying, not just doing mindless drawing, but really take in what you are drawing, like reading a paragraph over and over, and mulling it over in your mind, to fully understand the text or subject.

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>>10784955
I made shitty doodles during high school. Then I started drawing Morenatsu fanart in 2013. Kept at it. I probably have around 1k hours of drawing, though a lot of that was without any study or reading up on techniques. On the other hand when I started doing fanart I don't think I was up to the task of studying.

>>10787492
Does the box look weird?

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>>10789172
thanks for the kind words
>>10784955
I started when I was 21, Im 24 now. I don't really know why I started, I think I wanted to make money doing gay porn but I guess I don't have the interest or drive in doing it. At this point I'm just trying to find a direction to go in I guess and trying to stay productive but that's the hardest part.

>>10719692
The young girl appears to be missing a finger unless I'm looking at it wrong

>>10784955
I just force myself at this point, I enjoy the process but I'm too bad to enjoy the results on a regular basis. Started a bit more that a year ago.

>>10784955
Draw what you love.

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>>10790719
>does the box look weird
It's not on the same perspective plane as the rest of the setting. This makes it look like it's floating off the ground.

>>10778693
and yet, you manage to be the worst person in the thread
congratulations

>>10778693
Everyone else was baited, I'm just replying to fit in.

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Alright so...
This is literally the first picture I drew and I think I didn't do that bad or at least that I could have done worse, as I had very little knowledge about drawing in general about 4 days ago.

>>10798832
It's ok.
We all have to start somewhere.

>>10798832
Did you draw this in Flash? The lines look real squiggly

>>10748931
Those front limbs look pretty noodly, doodly. Try looking at pictures of canines and adding a little joint/bone/muscle group definition, or at least the suggestion of it.

>>10772845
I love these background characters! They're so lovely and feel like they're really "in the moment", nobody feels overly stiff or awkward.

The super fat flamedramon, which I'm sure is supposed to be the focal point, just sort of ruins the rest of it for me, though.

>>10798832
That's a good first attempt, anon. Keep learning.

>>10799270
Yeah...
>>10800185
Thank you :)

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Most of these are throw away's, but I've been practicing with bodies over the past few days. I've noticed that I've been having trouble when it comes down to the body and where the legs connect.

>>10800837
Try to visualize/draw simplified versions of the major bones and where they connect to the other large bones in the body. Hip joints of the pelvis to the femur, shoulder joint to humerus, humerus to elbow, etc. Keep these lengths proportional.
A good way to practice this is to do some life drawing (from a video like croquis cafe) with a drawing anatomy reference open, and draw over the model to figure out where the internal structure is.

>>10801106
Thanks

I've seen that a good way to simplify hips and chest, is to visualize the hips as a circle and the chest as a triangle shape.

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>>10801465
This is sort of what I mean.

>>10801106
>A good way to practice this is to do some life drawing (from a video like croquis cafe)
Not that anon, but can you elaborate on the video part

>>10802864
Not the anon you're referring to, but these are the videos he means.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYjuexM89xg

>>10802901
Oh, these kinds of videos
I remember checking out the channel but I saw mostly turntable videos and though it's for scuplting and not drawing

>>10803029
Having had taken life drawing classes, these croquis cafe vids are as close to what you can get from them for free, minus all of that useful instructor feedback

>>10784955
i started when i was 20, im 31 now and i've learned nothing really, just bad habits. im lazy as shit, have zero motivation to practice, but i still want to get better because i have tons of ideas that i do not want others to draw for me.

my skill is probably still about DA level easy, i haven't uploaded anything to the net since 2014 either. i watch a ton of artists, both on DA and pixiv. it feels scary when someone who is good watches you back and you just don't know why.

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An anon from the last thread recommended a Huion H420 as a first time drawing tablet for poorfags. To whoever that anon was, I bought it and it should be coming soon.

Once word came to my artfag friends, I got scolded heavily for not buying a Wacom tablet:
>"Wacom or nothing"

What should my response be? Should I continue using the Huion tablet until I upgrade or should I tell them to fuck off for one-siding?

>>10811584
>What should my response be? Should I continue using the Huion tablet until I upgrade or should I tell them to fuck off for one-siding?
Tell them to fuck off. The Huion is basic and hilariously tiny but it'll get you through the basic strokes and it's still way the fuck better than a mouse.

Up

>>10798832

Remember, trying to give you criticism, not shit on your work, so don't mix the two up.

Work on the "Draw-A-Box" lesson series which is free, learn to at least start with some line quality through some basic shapes and line concentration grinding exercises.

I saw you mentioned you drew that in Flash, use Gimp if you are strapped for cash and need a free art-program, there are others, so if anyone else wants to chime in on any others for freebies for the poor-draw-fags feel free, that's what I started off on.

The majority of your image is symbol drawing, you have some basic understanding of the eyes and ears, but the rest is just symbol drawing.

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took a week off from drawing. first day back and decided to draw Futaba with a halftone background. how'd I do?

>>10812750

Focus on anatomy and line-work quality first, skip the fancy color stuff.

No idea wtf she is sitting on, I assume it's some crazy, chaotic, monster robot head. But that is irrelevant to the main focus of the sitting individual.

Her lower legs are way too long, the feet/boots resemble more of the shape of beans or an oval than actual footwear.

Skip the colors, the background is nice and all, but from a composition standpoint, it is a nightmare, but I assume it's just a fun piece after taking some drawing time off.

The face really needs some work, skip those poorly painted on headphones, the 3/4 turned face should not be that sharp, nor' that flat, as well as her chin.

The hand is way too large, and resembles more of a meat chunk of an implied hand than an actual drawn one.

And she has no kneecaps, or they are implied.

The left arm and elbow of hers should be drawn better to portray the foreshortening illusion of her arm/elbow sticking out to the viewer, rather than the mess of I assume ruffled up clothing.

Her neck is extremely thick, her head should not protruding that far out in the back, increase the length of the vertical length of the chin nearly meet the shoulder.

Basically, clean up the lines, skip the colors and study anatomy. (Not to sound like an ass, just giving a critique)

It's nice and decent for what it is, and you clearly understand the beginnings of anatomy, but there is some definite improvements needs.

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>>10812983
thanks for the critque. This was just a fun excersice after my break. She's sitting on her awakened persona Prometheus btw. I do try to improve my anatomy throught life drawing and on hand and paper it's fine. Working digitally is my weakness and I'm trying to improve. I try to work off of my other artists and my favorite graphic novel artists. When I do ask for reference and help they always point to Kienan Lafferty. The guy is amazing at what he does but I'm always lost with him.

>>10811584
Wacom is a brand at this point, they're overpriced but I'd assume they have better support. They have official Linux drivers, and Huion IIRC doesn't, that seals the deal for me.

Just use whatever works for you, if Huion works without issues then why not stick with it.

>>10813012

>I try to work off of my other artists and my favorite graphic novel artists.

It's not bad to find inspiration from other artists, just try not to attempt to copy or replicate their works/style and make it your own tweaked style off of their originals.

>Working digitally is my weakness and I'm trying to improve.

I would encourage you to focus on traditional first, and then digital, as transferring one skill habit to the other medium is not made equally. Learning only digital first usually creates a lot of problems when attempting to switch medium skills to traditional art. Working on both at the same time isn't bad either, but I would give precedence over to traditional, rather than digital.

You're on the right path, but I would steer clear of the "style meme", it hooks a lot of new artists early to the point of immobilizing them, and keeps them stuck in a perpetual loop of crappiness that they usually use their favorite "style" artists as their largest sources of self-checking their work and progress to the artist's "style" that they are trying to copy. If you are really serious about improving. Focus on meaningful studies is what I would recommend, even if art it is a major hobby you are interested in.

>I do try to improve my anatomy throught life drawing and on hand and paper it's fine.

That is good, as for most things, drawing from life is the way to get going on the fast track to achieving your art goals.

>>10798832
>>10812722
IMO it's better to start as the OP says, draw-a-box on it's own is very grindy and doesn't teach you much at the same time, I think it should be a side activity and not the main course.

It explains what construction is, but when it gets to quadrupeds/humans, it doesn't teach anything new, it just hammers the concept of construction into your head again and again. I don't think draw-a-box even mentioned gesture before (I see he is remaking his figure drawing section though, but it's still extremely condensed)

Speaking of software, apart from GIMP, there is Krita, which is also free.

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>>10813107
well thanks for the critique this has definitely taught me stuff. I think I'll lay off digital work and work on more traditional. And they say 4chan is full of toxic people.

>>10796113
I see. Guess I need more practice before I freehand boxes.

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>>10812722
>>10813140
Thanks for the advices! I really appreciate it

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been drawing a lot of Latis lately
the cracks look shit but I think everything else turned out okay

>>10814581
stabilizer is your friend

When studying

>having reference always up in your face
vs.
>only ocassionally looking at it

Anyone got any opinions? I've heard that the second approach is better

>>10812722
I'd also suggest grabbing Peter Han's lectures as you do draw a box.

It's literally the same thing, but it was originally made by Peter's course.

>>10817110


>having reference always up in your face

Usually when you study, you want to be mainly if not constantly looking at your reference. You are learning, and studying, not creating a piece of work from imagination. Either you are learning the anatomy of a certain part of the body and creating an internal visual library for yourself to pull from in the future, or you are doing any number of other studys, but looking at the subject of study vs. trying to draw the parts you don't understand from imagination will not help you.

>I've heard that the second approach is better

Usually in life drawing, you want to be constantly looking at the subject and studying it, that goes as well for reference studying. I assume when you mean "occasionally looking at it" you mean when drawing something from imagination, and needing reference to help you out, in that instance, it really doesn't matter too much, but still focus heavily on what you are referencing, since you are in a way still studying it, it's something you don't understand how to draw a portion of your own image, so it would be advisable to study and mull over your reference and fully take it in, to begin building a strong internal visual library.

>>10814581

I would say as a fun exercise to begin with off the top of my head, would just to be to draw your own hands in various different positions. It's an exercise and study, so it does NOT have to be good. I would encourage you post them as well.

There's a lot that needs work obviously. But there's not much to say about it either, it's a Poke'mon head with a hand on it that's poorly drawn, that's about it.

I would also recommend drawing an entire nude figure (not sexual) and post that to show where you are skill wise, which I would assume is at the beginning.

You understand somewhat of the hand which is a good start.

But if you have any study works or hard technical drawing studies I would encourage you to post those as well, to help you along.

>>10780836

It's not bad, the only thing I would say is elongate the gut region, they have no stomach. And slightly decrease the length of the left torso/rib-cage.

Remember, as a quick cheat tip, the arms and leg lengths should be the same, this statement isn't entirely accurate, but it will help to even out and balance the anatomy as a quick cheat trick, and again, that statement is really correct. Also, the forearms should be slightly longer than the upper arms, You understand that the thighs are slightly longer than the lower legs too, which is good.

For the heads, it's really just symbol drawing, I would just find a whole bunch of animal images of heads, and draw/grind them, also find some skeleton structures of a wolf/dog and car head and study that in different positions.

Other than that, not looking too bad, keep it up.

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I drew an Eevee just now

>>10723813
>>10724720

Actually, you keep drawing over the same ellipse three times, and then lift your pencil, tablet pen up.

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Bump with a value study mid-progress
Trying to wing it without underlying consturction, which wasn't a good idea maybe, but honestly I need some value practice
I have no idea what I'm doing, to be honest
Gonna stop now because it's 2 AM and I'm hungry

>>10819674
Well that was unexpected, thanks, I'm gonna save it next to the sketch though because I'll need to soldify it somehow and I'm not doing it right now

>Remember, as a quick cheat tip, the arms and leg lengths should be the same
Huh, didn't know about that

As for heads, I usually leave them out until last moment, but I guess I'll put furry heads on the next thing to draw/practice, I need that too and they're fun

>>10819508
>I would also recommend drawing an entire nude figure (not sexual)
Where do you think we are

One has to draw an entire nude figure (sexual) and it has to be a furry

Bedtime. RIP thread.

>>10769500
All I have to add to this is I was really worried about moving to a tablet, I had no trust in my ability to switch over, but I actually got comfortable to it REALLY quick. Now when I draw traditional I'm tapping the area right above the point because I'm more used to pressing the button on the pen

>>10822486

Np.

>Huh, didn't know about that

Leonardo da Vinici’s "Vitruvian Man" was a prime example of his work on "hand anthropometry", breaking the human body into measurements of palms, that then could be broken down into other measurements out of the human body from there. Where the quick cheat of legs and arms being the same length to balance the anatomy out. But then, once you learn the "idealized" human body in lets say classical Greek terms, you can then slightly tweak things to create more interesting and dynamic images and different anatomy. Because no one has the same face or body shape or size, but the goal of learning is to first understand the static idealized form first, and then you can move onto deviating from the original.

>As for heads, I usually leave them out until last moment, but I guess I'll put furry heads on the next thing to draw/practice, I need that too and they're fun

Human skulls aren't too hard to learn. If anything, just find a 3-D model of a skull that you can move around with your mouse. Nursing and medical websites have some 3-D skulls and skeletons programs you can mess around with. Animals are a little funkier, because with human skulls at least, people have a generalized idea of what it looks like through representative symbolism, aka. skull and cross bones flag look or the popular bull/cow skull in a desert. Animals skulls are definitely an entirely different subject matter, and there is a bit more of a learning curve to them than human skulls, that and you have to artificially connect the human spine and human neck muscles to an animal skull. Connecting to an entirely different animal/species head, like a weird version of the Isle of Dr Moreau and Frankenstein approach to drawing anthropomorphic creatures, but the process is fun and challenging it it's own right none the less.

>>10769500

It's like blind contour drawing at first, you want to constantly look down at the tablet, instead of the screen. It is VERY uncanny at first, but the skills quickly transfer over, vs. vice versa. Though, a portion of your traditional skills will not transfer over very quickly, if at all, just because of the two different mediums themselves.

Up we go

>>10812722
>recommending GIMP
My experience with GIMP is less than stellar. It's a tarpit of "everything is possible and nothing of interest is easy".
In actuality, it's an okay image editor, but not so much for drawing. Krita is designed for drawing, and I've had a much better experience with it.

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>>10688669
Practicing boobs and marker. How am I doing?

>>10829740
is good,but what kind of markers?

Night

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New fag here.

I'm trying to start with drawing some silly chibis and shit, starting with something easy like sketching a little lynx.

But doing this with a mouse is starting to destroying me inside.

Any recommendations?

>>10831864
Well, maybe start with traditional (i.e. pencil and paper) and get a cheap digitizer tablet after some time
If you have a phone with camera, you can just take pictures of your drawings to digitize them, even mediocre camera should be enough.

I wouldn't recommend starting with a tablet right away because it takes some time getting used to and can be extra frustrating for a beginner.

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I can't believe how slow this topic is.
I guess not many people want to learn how to draw :[

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A new piece i did.

>>10831989
Well I usually doodle once per day because it's a bit time consuming, I suppose many people do so too, that's why this thread is slow

>>10830157
Prismacolor.

>>10780935

You are the most literally autistic anon on this board.

>>10833660
Kinda rude!

Should've said something like
>this is a bad case of symbolic drawing, you should pick up one of the books from the OP and/or "Fun with pencil" by Loomis

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>>10821418
Fuck this, I think I'm done with this one. I've messed up the arm anatomy anyway and I can't paint a furry head yet.

>>10831989
Cute kemono style.

Japan has that furry shota game locked DOWN

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Hey. Can I get some feedback on those boobs? they seem odd to me. Thanks in advance ;*

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>>10747853
Done.
Took me a while because I was pre-occupied with other stuff.

>>10760020
The recent one should be right, people read from left to right unless youre from japan.

>>10835885
Fucking nice!

Uh, one question
What program do you use for this?
Just curiosity

>>10836345
I use Adobe Photoshop CC 2017. Nothing else.

>>10834404
No, keep at it, the idea is to finish and polish the turd, just finish it, especially if it is a study.

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Looking alright so far?

>>10844408
Thank you, I see it.

>>10813172
Trash isn't completely full of toxic people. Can't say the same about the rest of the boards

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more lewds of my comic character.

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>>10848172
and my friends slime character

>>10837767
noice!

>>10836547
Alright, thank you

>>10814581
Cute

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>>10853367

>tfw turning into a human photocopier while original work is unchanged

>>10814581
Geez...

You draw hands better than me dude...

>>10817110
somewhere in between, you want to equally divide your attention between studying the reference and your rendition of it

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Just finished this commission
I really like how the colors turned out !

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just started drawing furry, pls no bully
>>10855489
yo this is fucking awesome

>>10855652
not bad at all, very cute

keep at it with the kemono style

>>10855786
thanks, dude!

>>10688669
Up again!

Two questions:
1. I'm shit at drawing traditionally, but it's even worse with a tablet. Wat do?
The lines never go the way I want them to go and I absolutely lack precision.
Do I keep working on traditionals? Is the problem technical (software, wrong tablet placement)? Any tips on how to transition to digital?

2. How to get ideas on what to draw? I must have a shitty imagination because it's legitimately hard for me to think something up.
I tried doing drawthread requests (no deliveries, just for myself) but they are mostly the same thing and often too difficult or overly specific.
What I end up doing is just drawing whatever I'm feeling at the time, but it's monotone and reads like a diary; I'd prefer to draw various things.

>>10858231
The answer to your first general question is just practice, honestly. It doesn't really matter whether you're drawing traditionally or with a tablet, it's all a matter of drilling. The transition from traditional to digital is something every artist has to go through (lines not going where you want them to go, etc.), you just need time to adjust. It's really woth it in the end, though.
As for the second question... It varies from person to person, but I always feel inspired to draw after watching some speedpaints or looking at other artists' works.
And what's wrong with drawing whatever you're feeling at the time? What do you mean by that exatly?

>>10858541
Thanks. I guess practice it is.
It's just a major motivation killer to finally make some neat progress on paper and then be unable to replicate it digitally.

>And what's wrong with drawing whatever you're feeling at the time?
Eh, nothing's wrong with it. It's just a lot of the same thing. I want variety.

>What do you mean by that exatly?
Well for example I draw dialogues between characters describing my day or my current feelings and thoughts.
I know it's silly, but like I said I lack imagination and that's the first thing that comes to mind.
Maybe I should draw the things themselves instead of characters talking about it? I'll give it a spin.

>>10858649
>Well for example I draw dialogues between characters describing my day or my current feelings and thoughts
But that's cute, anon.
I understand wanting more variety, though. I can't for the life of me draw anything but fucking anime girls. I've been trying to break out of that. It's hard, but really satisfying when you nail something you've avoided and struggled with for a long time.
So best of luck to you, dude, you'll make it.

>>10858843
Thanks and best of luck to you too!

>>10857407
And again

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Huion H420 fag here. Just received it yesterday and started doodling today.
I don't draw as shit as this demonstrates, I am just trying to get used to a different way of drawing as well as learning how to use SAI.

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>>10862119
This is probably my best work when I mouse-fagged; just to give a better perspective of my drawing abilities.

>>10862119
>>10862186

Just grind through the first 2 lessons of Draw-A-Box to build your hand (drawing) discipline with the tablet.

Do you have any other studies, namely life drawing, or anything of the sort?

>>10865178
I'm studying mostly in anatomy though that isn't going all too well since I first tried in mid-2016.

>>10866372

Post it none the less, maybe someone can give you some advice, these threads aren't about posting your best works or bashing people, it's meant to post study work that needs improvements, aka, bad art, whether that be life studies or personal works, just post away.

For those of you who have been drawing consistently for years and achieved some semblance of skill, what kind of process and trials did you go through that pushed you and caused you to develop the most?

>>10867061
Drawing differently. That's why life drawing is so useful and specifically people sketching. It forces you to draw quickly and you never draw the same thing the same way. Your always focusing on a new perspective or angle. It sounds hokey and stupid but drawing a lot does provide skill. The horror stories of years of stagnation are a result of years of doing the same thing. Consider, for example, running. If I ran a mile a day until it no longer was a challenge, I could keep it up to stay in decent shape or change it to be more rigorous to get in great shape.

Study, apply, study, apply. Take breaks and have fun.

draw

>>10858231
>1. I'm shit at drawing traditionally, but it's even worse with a tablet. Wat do?
As other anon said, that's really just practice
It also may be worth trying out different placements for your tablet (e.g. in front of you, in place of the mouse, etc.)

Only technical side worth checking is your tablet mapping. Your tablet and your screen might have different aspect ratios, and by default (I think) tablets are mapped "whole tablet to whole screen", so you might want to change the mapping to keep the aspect ratio.

>2. How to get ideas on what to draw? I must have a shitty imagination because it's legitimately hard for me to think something up.
Some people suggested writing down your ideas as they come to you, so when you're in the mood to draw, you'll have a ready list of things to draw.

>>10872609
Trying but my head angle looks bad

>>10873035
then only practice the head, forgot the rest of the body

>>10858231
>2. How to get ideas on what to draw?
I like to combine two different subjects and merge them together. For example, tons of interesting mythological creatures are mashups of different things, like dragons, phoenixes, minotaurs, manticores, mermaids. I mean furries in general are people with animal heads.
I'm working on a scifi + asian architecture floorplan concept. It's fun. You have to figure out what you can derive from each subject and combine them into something functional, faithful to both philosophies and aesthetically pleasing.

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>>10866722
Made this about a week ago.
Also hands are backwards and back muscles are shit, I know.

you're doing good

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I suck dick at head sideviews so I gave it an honest try. Came out a lot better than I expected.

>>10873814
You should get a proper scanner (or equivalent) to make your sketches easier to view.

I'd also say you're much farther along in anatomy than for which you give yourself credit.

>>10876554
Thanks, a lot of my art friends are total cunts so I am put down a bit because of the comparison.
I took that picture from my Android camera, oddly enough, my iPhone 4 camera from 4 years ago has better scanning.

I will see if I can find a better camera laying around, I might post a fuck ton of my old decent drawings from 2013 to now.

>>10876593
You know, better lighting would make these shitty phone photos stand out a lot better. Find some lamps!

>>10873031
Tablet's mapping keeps ratio.
As for other advice - thanks.

>>10873483
Mixing two subjects together? Interesting!
I'll definitely try this.

I'm still sick so bump with nothing

how do I motivate myself to do studies?


I just never want to sit down and do them, and the few times that i do I'm afraid that I'm using the wrong techniques or I'll end up losing interest because of my low skill level making it not feel like I'm learning anything

I've dabbled in books and guides but I often get bored within the first few exercises, especially if they start with fundamentals since I do have a decent grasp on them, just not confidence in whether or not I'm properly applying them

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>>10873031
>It also may be worth trying out different placements for your tablet (e.g. in front of you, in place of the mouse, etc.)
A is in place of mouse,
B is in front

I'm not sure. A seems to yield easier-drawn lines (hand more used to making those strokes), B better shapes (overall better control of pen on canvas).
Also B is a bit tougher on my wrists but it's probably just a matter of getting used to it (always used A before).

Which tablet placement do you people use?

>>10873814

OP here. It's decent for what it is, and you understand some anatomy decently enough for being self-taught. Think of the body in separate shapes and forms, usually think with boxes and rectangles at the moment.

One big thing I would encourage is simply drawing a few full bodied skeletal system, just to understand roughly where parts are placed and located.

And would then encourage you to study some life drawing, aka, nude figures. In the OP of the thread at the top there are some nice links to some timed drawing exercises that you can have timed or just manually change each image. Which if your interested I can go into depth for some of those timed exercises and drawings and their functionality towards your improvement in drawing.

>QuickPoses - https://www.quickposes.com/en
>PoseSpace - https://www.posespace.com/posetool/default.aspx

Skip the shading and coloring for the time being, value studies will come later, but first, you must learn the proportions of the human body, and a good place to start would be the "idealized human figure" and anthropometry.

>>10876423

Move the ears slightly down, and the neck should be back a little further, other than that, keep going.

>>10879580

>Draw what you like
>Study, learn, work and draw outside your comfort zone
>Everyone started off at the bottom making completely ugly works that made the artist themselves cringe and their peers as well (it's completely normal, and absolutely necessary step)
>Post your work

The idea behind improvement threads is not to show off, but usually to post your worst to medium quality study and works, and ask for help. Remember, this isn't a show off contest of who's better or not. Anyone can draw, anyone can improve at that skill, some people are farther along than others, some not, it's not a matter of incompetence, but one of work put in, anyone can learn to draw.

Simply, post what you have atm.

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This just in, burgeoning furry artist finally starts to get the hang of line art

"I'm growing stronger." he said, menacingly.

I know, the anatomy's off, but this was just me trying to draw digitally, something I suck at way more regardless.

>>10887632
Also, I should probably learn to post in a smaller size, while keeping the quality. So much to learn!

>>10887632
>>10887657

The image size is fine.

I would say, move the snout/nose/mouth to the right some.

The panties, unless they are just a placeholder at the moment should be fitting more towards the natural curvature of the body, it looks more like it was pasted on. Reduce the size of the arm that is partially covering the chest, it is way too big, she also has no shoulder to be seen that connects that ar as well, the mid-section looks decent enough atm. Round out the bottom of the breasts, remember, think of breasts in terms of weight always, and draw them as such, they seem to be unnaturally lifted a bit too much. It's okay to use reference. Thin out the neck as well.

It's looking good though, keep up the good work.

>>10887901
I honestly wasn't going to bother finishing it, since it was just a lark. But you know what, fuck it. I'll take your advice and troubleshoot it tomorrow. Thanks for the critique.

That is honestly my first attempt at drawing nipples ever. Usually just focus on the big picture.

>>10887984

Np.

Nipples aren't too bad, or the areola, usually you can half ass them and most people won't care.

I would also recommend finishing the legs and feet, no matter how bad they turn out. And post what you have when done.

God speed anon.

>>10855489
This is neat as fuck, amazing job anon

>>10784955
I used to draw a while back, just as a fun little thing but fell out of love with it, then a long while later i Met an amazing friend who motivates me to keep drawing I happy to have met them. im sure you will find some motivation anon

>>10881298
A is the supposedly correct way, so that's how I taught myself to draw.
Also, those hands are extremely long.

you can do it!

>>10892303
:D

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>>10881298
A, to a degree because I keep using the keyboard too for hotkeys

Here is the arrangement Tyson Tan uses with non-screen tablet

>>10893295
g203 spotted

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>>10688669
What do you think?

I fell out of practice. Last time I drew traditional was almost a year ago so I'm having to get used to it again and I feel I'm really far behind from where I left since I switched to digital

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>>10893398
More inking

>>10876423
Hawt!

I'd like to take a shot at drawing furries and scalies since I already feel quite comfortable with human anatomy and machinery.
Could I get artist recommendations to get a feel of different styles and choose which way I would go about drawing furries?

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>>10892303
>>10892945

New thread soon?!

>>10898183
I hope so

How do i describe this. What Is a good way to draw perspectives, not it the traditional way of the lines but more in terms of angles of characters, My art ends up looking incredibly flat sometimes with no dimensions to it or in terms whats a good way to think of 3d characters, some anatomy searches lightly touch the topic of thinking in 3D and Sorry if this seems confusing

>>10901488
Draw a lower silhouette corresponding to the shoulder and/or hip lines on the ground or at whatever reference level you're using when constructing.
Think of it like making a floor plan for the scene including both props and character footprints.
Hope that helps.

Does anyone have any guides/tips/advice for drawing animal pussies?

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guess i might as well post what i'm working on rn.

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Here's some of my latest (Read: a week ago. Fuck careers) that isn't thread derailing fetishistic.
I don't know why, but I always feel like my drawings loose a lot when I add color

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>>10903811
just line for reference

>>10903811
>>10903821

>I always feel like my drawings loose a lot when I add color

Usually it's a mixture of different things, it is because it's lacking in fundamentals, line consistency, lack of values, and line weight.

The arms are too stubby, and there isn't a proper representation of any shoulder that connects the arm to the upper body, the biceps are too small. The head/skull should be reduced in the back of the head, it is too elongated. The dog has no gut or midsection, and that is even accounting for the compressed midsection being what it is atm, which is really nothing, it goes from the chest/rib-cage to the hips with no inbetween. The bipedal legs, namely the left one when facing the image, that would be the doggo's right leg in actual technical terms, is missing a section of the leg that goes back from the thigh. It's hard to tell what is going on with the tail, but it is way too high up, and should not be jutting out at a side angle from the back, though I can clearly see you were attempting to draw the slightly foreshortened tail in perspective. The fingers only seem to have 2 digits to them, when there should really be three. The face is decent enough atm, but inbetween the space between the left cheek and chin should be slightly extended out to represent the muzzle of the dog. Also, extend that chin out some more down, he has his mouth open, not closed, so his face shouldn't be that compressed.

I would say, stick with solid, straight lines for now when drawing and constructing your furry animal, focusing heavily on the anatomy and then add the fur in strategic places. Too much scruff and misplaced fur can make the animal/furry look dirty, messy and unkept.

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>>10848172
more stuff, made this for a friends birthday.

my blog if anyone cares
https://overwhelmingmother.tumblr.com/

>>10848172
>>10848195
>>10904577

Checked.

I don't follow, are you simply sharing/showing off your work, shilling, or asking for advice?

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What do you think?

R8 my line art and strokes pls

Feedback wellcome

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>>10904663
Sharing mostly, I'm open for advice though.

>>10904729

Thicker lines should usually be used for creating the illusion of weight in the represented line. Not the outline of the image, which usually is more relatable to design and focal point in design, for instance, use thicker lines on the bottom of the drapery of the cloth. At the top of the draping cloth, create thinner lines. As a cheat, usually put thicker lines at the bottom of the image for each section of clothing.

I would also draw the image bigger to add more details, I can tell the it is Buddha, but there is a lack of clear distinction in areas, where they seem to just meld together in a mess of cloth.

>>10904851

Honestly it's not bad, you actually have a very good grasp of anatomy, atm. Though I must ask, but please do not be offended, as I am not trying to bash you, but are you tracing some of these, or simply copying them by visuals.

What I should say is, did you draw these from scratch without any reference.

The biggest and quickest improvement is connect the lines, there should be that many open spaces between each connecting line.

>>10905058

Jesus, my spelling tonight.

>"shouldn't be"

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>>10905058
most of it is referenced, not traced though.

the line connection thing is cause most of those are second drafts. when I do the final line I make sure It's all connected.

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>>10904729
>>10904871
Better?

>>10905349

Yes, better, but also focus on the internal lines to help meld the cloth and illusion of weight connect more seamlessly. Connect some of those thicker lines to the bottom of the other thicker lines. Though, those lines are very thick as well, and should subtly become thicker and thinner, not so much of a huge abrupt big bloop thick line, and then some smaller ones sprinkled in. The left arm, that would be the technical right arm/side of the Buddha is a very good example.

Also, the thickness of the bottom drapery should vary as well. Where the curves of the drapery begin to slightly roll up at the bottom of his robs, towards the tension of the cloth at the upper top, is where it should subtly become thinner, and then as it rolls down to the bottom apex of the curvature, though, before the curve hits the apex, it should become a uniform thickness, subtly in transition of course .

New thread
>>10910538
>>10910538
>>10910538