3rd Party Transformers General: $99 Despotron Edition

>>6406929

>As you can see, he's extremely photogenic, as advertised, and poses and sizes extremely brilliantly with Drift!

>Everything, including the inner shin panels peg into something. The only areas that don't peg in are the treads on the calf and the front forearm panels. These are the only loose things on mine.

>The joints are great, though some of them are way too tight. The leg ratchets and the telescoping elbow are a little too tight. I'm afraid of breaking the plastic when moving them...

>One more thing that I don't get is the sliding transformation joint in the thigh. It moves it ever so slightly and I see no point in sliding it back and forth as it's literally unnoticble in robot mode...

>Otherwise, a nice chunky figure with amazing poseability, an imposing bot mode and a solid alt mode.

>>6406927
So is maketoys design and sales department based in Japan or something? I figured it was China all the way. Just wondering if anyone knows.
>>6406929
please be decent, I need more tanks.
>>6406931
who are you quoting

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>>6406927
>superior MP Megatrons
>implying

>>6406937

>A takaracuck is actually going to gingerly take down his dusty mp36 from it's detolf display desperately hoping it's paint doesn't fall off or no scratches appear on it while employing enough mental gymnastics to claim it's superior

It's a nice if not overpriced action figure but it's one of the worst Transformers Takara has ever released. Why they didn't steal despotron's engineering is beyond me.

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Zeta Toys Swindle was revealed a while ago. I like this as a combiner, but the bot modes are lacking for me.

ugh,,, not a fan for the price

anybody have experience with perfect effects rc, been kinda interested in the design

>>6406927
>Grab your superior MP Megatrons while they last
The only MP Megatron is sold out.

>>6406936
Maketoys is registered in Japan.

>>6406951

These look fat as fuck and absolutely terrible. Bruticus is going to have to be near perfect for them to sell such shit robots.

>>6406990
>The only MP Megatron
There were multiple versions of the original MP Megatron mold and a new 2.0 came out recently. If you're going to be a takaracuck at least pretend to know what you're talking about.

>>6407074
I just might have to get the white version for my Magnus. My cab is missing a paint app anyway. This'll do nicely.

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Transforming titan class scorponok not made by hastak when?

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>tfw you will never own a first-edition Maketoys Hypernovae.
>tfw you will never unite and subjugate your tot shelf with a fourteen-inch wingspan with limited edition neon orange bits.
>tfw you will always be short on cash while staring longingly at the only Hypernovae on eBay until the seller closes his shop.

Reality is so cruel.

Did that third party Monstructor ever get finished?

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Hey, got my Suzie today, and he's a mixed bag. I don't know what that person last thread was on about with loose panels and popping off. I had one of the orange shoulder panels fall of my first time transforming it, but it's not Spinout levels of loose. Still, I can understand some frustrations with the transformation, espetially with the arms and the small accordion panels.

I'm still fiddling with it, but I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have.

>>6407081
Remember, you need their other Magnus upgrade set for it to work.

>>6407136

I wish we could get a wallpaper of the box art of him. It's pretty fucking nice looking.

>>6406927
this is the company making the new Machine Robo stuff, right?

>>6406929
Why is it no Blugdeon figure, official or 3P, has hit the mark on the face? This one looks looks goofy.

>>6407159

Because the only figures that exist are redun or higher budget reimaginings of redun. No one has tried a true g1 bludgeon yet. I don't know if anyone wants one desu. How you modernize pretenders?

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Well shit, scratch that. Apparently this guy's panels will fall even if they're screwed in! His orange shin panels aren't anywhere in the box. It doesn't even look like he had the holes drilled. How the fuck do you overlook this?

Such a shame because their Devastator and Metroplex upgrades were so nice. I don't know what happened here.

>>6407173

Where did you order from?

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>>6407176
The Chosen Prime. I'm looking into their replacement policy. I've heard good things, so I'm not too worried.

I'm actually thinking of just requesting a refund. I'm one of those anti-diecast people, and looking at this guy is a strong reminder of why. This paint work on his roght foot is a joke.

>>6407185

I've ordered from the same place and presumably from the same batch. So I'll see if he's as shit as yours.

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>>6407185
Aso be warned that this guy has a back panel made of diecast and it's so tight that the plastic panel on it's end rubs on it. This is a problem since the pin has a tapered area that's grinding the plastic down in the center of pic related. That thing will be looser than Xovergen's God Armor in a few transformations.

Fucks sake, they delayed this thing by two and a half months and they still fucked it!

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>>6407159
RID Bludgeon/Blastwave nailed the head sculpt IMO.

>>6407166
Redun or not, it looks like Grim Fandango. The only one that even looks like Bludgeon was the Headrobots kit for RotF Bludgeon and that was his IDW head.

>>6407208
It's the best one of the bunch, but not quite perfect and on a so-so deluxe. I'm still getting one if it ever shows up locally. I'll probably paint over the outer jaw line to give him a more exaggerated skull look.

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>>6407208
The ROTF only needed more paint. It was fine for a skull made out of machinery and armor plates but YMMV.
The helmet was doughy shit full stop, though.

>>6407166
>How you modernize pretenders?
Use the altmode of the G1 figure's inner robot for the altmode and the pretender shell for the robot mode if possible.

>>6406999
Yea I've seen their combiner and i think it looks good. The alt modes look ok too. But the robot modes are shit.

I'm convincing myself to get them for their cheap ass price as well as leaving them combined 99% of the time anyway.

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>>6407185
>implying this wouldn't have happened on a plastic foot.

>>6407233
>The helmet was doughy shit full stop, though.

Looks like a mecha skull the head is great.

>>6407173

>>just casually looking at it I can see all these poorly molded and misaligned parts

wow, this looks awful

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>>6407159
Hmm, you made me want to attempt my own ideal Bludgeon head. I admit,t hough, I'm not satisfied with it, as I can never figure just how literal I want the skull and samurai helmet to look. I never liked the replacement skull for the ROTF figure, looked too soft and almost cute. I want it to look like a metal skull, but not a Terminator. But I also like some of the more abstract designs,that don't go for a literal skull.

>>6407393

That's good. I'd try more human, flatter teeth for the skeleton look though.

>>6407208
>>6407221
Are there upscaled RID figs?
I wouldn't mind buying one of this design for that nice robot mode and colors
I'll probably pick up an official one if I see it in stores to have a manlet Bludgeon

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>>6407393
That looks awesome. After my original post, I came across the Perfect Effect Samurai upgrade for the RotF figure and have to say I like the skull face on that one, but don't care for the alternate helmet or other accessories the set includes.

>>6407402
I believe there are, but since RID Bludgeon hasn't hit mass retail yet I don't think there is one of him. Nor have I seen a OS of Megatronus, the mold he's based on, because I would buy that.

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>>6406927
>says superior MP Megatrons on sale
>no MP Megatrons just bootlegs

>>6407408
I ordered that set like a year ago and it wasa in shoddy as fuck quality. The faces were all mashed and the helmets looked terrible. Plus it was impossible to get them to stay on when i tried to transform him to tank mode.

>>6406927
>Grab your superior MP Megatrons while they last

Did you really have to put this bait in the OP? Its like you wanted this thread to go to shit.

>>6407427
>Using the term bootleg incorrectly

Being illiterate should be a bannable offense.

>>6406927
Despotron looks mostly cool, but the ugly face is a turn off and I just have no place for it in my collection at this point. Even as a standalone piece, there's just too much other stuff I'd rather get.

>>6407430
Thanks for the warning. Only one on ebay is $32 so wasn't planning on it, but now I definitely won't be tempted. I already have the Headrobots kit, which I abandoned save for the swords after repainting the original head.

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Looks like toyworld is having financial issues. Might be why the designer took the bruticus designs and ran with them.

>>6407393
Nice Ultron.

>>6407287
The face is great but the helmet is too round and makes the head look too fat and cute.

Imagine if we got a tiny Iron Factory Bludgeon.

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>>6407661
I just bit my bottom lip

>>6407193
>had choice between Susanoo, Feilong, MP Soundwave, and Raging Bull
>went for Feilong and Raging Bull

Now I feel like a dodged a bullet, but I guess we'll see how the combiner turns out. I may have dodged one bullet and walked into a pit doing so.

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This looks fantastic.

>XTransbots

I know.

>>6407789
H-hey, maybe it'll be good!
Maybe!

>>6407801

TFC got their shit together for one combiner, maybe these guys can too?

>>6407789
animation accurate or not... that fucking crotch is terrible.

>>6407817
gigantic, singular crotchflaps are the goddamn worst, I don't understand why anyone thinks its a good idea to put that on a figure.

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>>6407817

>>6407826
>>6407829

It's got moving pieces.

>>6407054
If you consider anything that's not MP-36 an MP Megatron then you're objectively an idiot.

>>6407841
Kay.

MP36 still looks like ass, though.

>>6407532
Of course they do. They're only doing terrible versions of characters that other companies are getting right. I don't think even they sold 100 pieces of their shitty Jazz, Kup and Springer.

>>6407851
Stop looking at Masterpieces then because MP-36 is looking exactly like it should.

>>6407877
Yes, like ass.

>>6407881
Asses look great, mate. Have fun with your happy meal & greeblemaster toys collection.

>>6407877
>>6408083

>Mile long legs
>diaper
>bobble head
>made from ramshackle folding panels and falls apart visually from every angle
>paint flakes
>transformation takes half an hour
>using accessories will damage the toy

It's just buyers remorse at this point.

>>6408083
That mold would get fucking trashed on by everyone and their mum if it didn't come in a box with Takara written on it.

I should really write up a pastebin or notepad listing all the reasons why MP36 is ugly as sin and horribly over-engineered to no benefit to make it easier for myself, because I'm really tired of having these arguments.

>>6408092
>I'm really tired of people not agreeing with me
Autism.

>>6408090
>>6408092
I'm sorry that you coudln't afford it anon.
>I'm really tired of having these arguments
Stop starting them then.

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>>6408134

I cancelled a paid in full preorder on him because my retailer emailed me and WARNED me not to transform him and use his accessories for fucking damage mitigation. That's fucking inexcusable on a 230 dollar toy.

Don't even fucking mention money. You officialplebs are so poor you argue about the sparse pain apps on 20 dollar deluxes. Go back to your shithole and suck more brand dick there.

>>6408142
You can't bitch about how "expensive" something "bad" is and tell others they're poor in the same post without being a massive retard you know.

Also
>officialpleb
That's pretty funny since I own more 3P than official TF but unlike you, it doesn't prevent me from being objective and admitting that MP-36 is the only Megatron that looks like a Masterpiece Megatron.

>>6408157
Being expensive is sure as hell a downside when it's also a fragile piece of shit. More money on an item doesn't make it good. It's objectively poorly made as evidenced by it's many fragility issues and flaking paint problems. Every other MP megatron attempt doesn't have these issues, even old apollyon with his shit hands and breakages aren't this bad.

>but the aesthetics

Subjective. You lost, quit shitposting.

>>6408157

>Expensive items can't be bad

Please go shitpost in the official thread. It's actually nice here.

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So are we ever gonna get a third party Orion Pax?

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>>6408208
Still not a fan of the dicksucking lips design on my robots.

>>6408228

Interesting how you immediately default to dicksucking rather than kissing.

>>6407136
Comparison with ROTF Bludg?

>>6408233
It's a /co /tfg/ joke term that just stuck. Either way I find G1 Orion to be a weird design overall, but at least he looks young compared to the IDW /WFC Orion.

>>6408237

Maybe that's what he was like before he became a cop.

Maybe he became a cop after Ariel was beaten and raped by a gang of Triple-M thugs.

>>6408255
I forget, was Ariel Elita-1?

>>6408256

She became her.

>>6407173
Guy from last thread just now showing up (because fuckface OP forgot to put "New thread" link in old one).

Sorry to hear you're having issues as well, but slightly relieved to see I'm not alone. I also ordered from TCP and am putting in a request to return - he's not satisfying to pose, almost impossible for me to transform 100% cleanly given the misaligned parts (mainly how the forearms are pushed together). The shins thing on yours is 110% unacceptable though, holy fuck, you can't even fix that. My worst thing was (aside from panels falling out) the sword-handle tab being so thick I had to whittle it down for him to hold it.

>>6408268

Man. Glad I got the ROTF one.

>>6408208
Those are some child bearing hps. He certainly birthed Optimus Prime alright

>>6407532
>>6407872
It seems to me the owner has his head up his own arse because of the resources he's amassed out of the succes of igear and constructor.
To me it looks like toyworld is rushing every design and handles its dealings with retailers and suppliers badly. And it's getting worse instead of better. I can't see Toyworld staying succesfull with this 'business model'

Are there any good 3pp fembots? I was briefly interested in dinotitties but their alt modes left me lukewarm.

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>>6408469

Depends, do you like Legends size figures?

>>6408485

Sure, they are [spoiler]cute[/spoiler].

I like larger scales as well and I was hoping to get a good variety of ladies.

>>6408486

Iron Factory's got 3 Legends size ones, Miku (Not-Windblade), a Not-Arcee, and a Not-Elita 1 that is only packed with the first run of their Not-PMP Prime. But the Elita 1 is just their Arcee with a different head/colors and different weapons as far as I know.

MMC has a few versions, but they're all just repaints/molds of their version of IDW Arcee. Some of which are very hard to get, due to being con exclusives.

>>6408653
Man he looks good and I really want to order him but fuck all those qc issues hes got, what a disappointment.

>>6408492
>Miku
It's Miko (as in shrine maiden), but now I want a Miku Hatsune retool of that figure, complete with detachable twintail swords/fins.

>>6406927
Are they safe to order from?

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literally cheaper than official deluxe brainstorms

their other releases have been alright, right?

>>6406927
I know that those two Legends-scale figs are based on the OLD Legends-scale, but who has a take on them? Or a take on Visualizers? $80 for them vs $125 for Spotter seems more tempting.

>>6407789
>fantastic

IDK, maybe if it was legends scale, but not masterpiece scale that's for damn sure

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He's bigger than GB.

Surprised this hasn't been posted here yet.

>Well, ....Welcome to another exciting episode of As the Toyworld Turns. In this episode, things get explained a bit more about everything. So here we go..This is a long read so grab a beer and Popcorn.

>" Qingtianzhu said:
I didn't want to get in on this, but I think I need to...

>Design team leaving wasn't a rumor. They left. Formed Zeta.

>As for TFS-Express, I asked TW about that:
>"TFS-Express has never traded through me." They go through a middleman, so essentially TFS-Express is in line...in another line waiting for parts.

>There is a pattern to TW releases this year if no one has noticed. It's "China first, then everyone else". A smaller run of figures that hit the main land and some lucky international stores, followed by a larger run later. It's a dumb way to do this, and I've told them as much, but hey, not my company. TW Arcee has been out for over a month, has it even hit internationally yet? The upgrade parts were released this way, I know this because I bought a set for the person that got my V1 Constructor. More are being produced with the second run of the boxed set and will be released at the same time (which should be soon if I remember correctly). A lot of the stores that did have issues getting the boxed set were those that got orders in late, last in orders, last in shipment.

>>6409281

>So let's touch on the rumors.

>First let me say there that Chinese 3P companies thrive on drama, it's like high school. (See FansToys v. About Every Other 3P) They are also not fond of direct confrontation, instead it simmers until it explodes, or shows up on social media as "he tell me". And actually, this doesn't just apply to 3P companies, I've had my fair share dealing with it with all sorts of companies in China.

>Every rumor has about a 30-40% semblance of truth to it, they change per every iteration. It's like the telephone game, hell just look at the boards here, one wishful sentence becomes hard fact several pages later. And some bloggers and sources will post anything they hear for page views, genuine concerns, good intentions, "credibility", a feeling of importance, or in some cases just to see the world burn.

>What I'm saying is take everything you hear with a grain of salt, including what I'm about to write here.
>One side says it was owed money and took their designs and left. The other side says all money was paid, but certain individuals wanted more money than they had agreed on, when stock from the warehouse started to disappear and show up on Taobao at a discounted price, those individuals were let go.This happens more often than you think. Now, I'm not saying who is speaking the truth in this scenario, I don't know. A lot of it is the use of word of mouth agreements instead of contracts. Everyone agrees to a price, but when an employee starts noticing what the company makes, they want a bigger slice of the pie, arguments happen and it all goes to shit. Unfortunately, it looks like XT is going through this right now with their mold maker.

>>6409286

>TW is in debt and is dying.Straight from the horse's mouth, TW has said, no we are not in debt. After the split, they took time to find a new team, while also deciding to relaunch the iGear name (so yeah, that rumor was true). There's gonna be a number of repaints in the immediate future, as it's going to take a while to get new designs done. The team is settling into place. I'm aware of some of the upcoming plans, some of it is expected, and some of it is refreshingly different. And since it's all new designers, expect a big style change. Those who enjoy the "old" TW style, will still be able to get it from Zeta. TW's release schedule (of already completed figures) has continued as planned (as dumb as it is.)
The after-sales service is a mess, and they are not handling it well.No arguments here, it's a hot mess. It was made with good intentions, but something something road to hell something. I think they need to scrap it and start again when things have normalized, and for pete's sake hire someone to do it, instead of "whoever has time today", because no one ever has time.
>TW isn't paying a different designer money owed to themI did talk with them about this, their side is that they paid the deposit, but ultimately did not want the final work. And instead of being out right with it (see avoid direct confrontation), it's simmering. They think they will have to pay for a design they will not use, and truth be told, they probably will and should. And this is why contracts need to be used. This is totally on them. I've been through similar, I worked with a Chinese company to produce three series of videos for a website, 36 in all. When it came time for payment, I was told they'd pay for the first 6, see how they go, and then perhaps pay for the rest. This is what I got for not asking for a contract, and trusting.

>>6409293

>TW is BB7 and producing stolen goods.I have nothing on this, but it just seems to me that the idea is dumb. Why would you compete against yourself in the seeker market? I fully expect TW to be the bad guy of every rumor until some other company has a big drama blowout. Well, at least it gives Keith a break.

>The moral of the story here is don't believe the hype. No one is ever going to know the entire story, myself included, besides the parties involved. And don't expect them to make official statements, because more than likely they won't. Take everything with a grain of salt, again, including this novel. There's always a lot more involved than you'll ever know. Try not to apply Western logic to it, or you'll break your brain.

>There's no point in taking a moral stand one way or the other, because we all enjoy IP infringing products. This fandom has it so good, and no one ever takes the time to appreciate it. So many companies making figures, so many choices, look at the poor Joe fanbase, they'd kill to have it half as good as we do. Enjoy the toys you have, buy the toys you want, regardless of company. You like Zeta's Bruticus? Buy it. You like Constructor? Buy it. You like certain FT, KFC, MMC, MT, XT, Bad Cube figures? Buy them. You like improved KOs? ...yada yada.... This is supposed to be fun. Who knows how long it will last, so enjoy it while you've got it.

>That said, my time as middleman between the boards and TW is being greatly reduced (by me). I've got a lot on my plate now. I'm involved in some other companies (on a more official basis...and no), and don't nearly have the time I used to have. That said, I will still help people where I can, get concerns and suggestions to them (when they are ready), and be around to use that blue laughing face that I love so much."

>>6409213
Wow that GB is fucking busy looking, should have gneo easy on the safety tape there sport

>>6409281
>>6409286
>>6409293
>>6409295
who is this and why should we care

>>6408653
>>6408664
I hope someone KO-improves him in. I love all the pics he has online but hearing the issues is just disappointing.

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*saved some money for KO Barricade just in case*
*buys TR Blitzwing instead without thinking straight*

what has my life come to?

>>6409691
That's just how it all begins dude, next thing you know you'll be buying a $400 combiner.

Does anyone have any problems getting the wrist swivel part on their Poseidon hands to slide all the way on? I can't tell if I need to use a lot of force or if it's just a mistake on the hand that came with my Deathclaw. There seems to be some plastic nubs partway in the groove on the hand......

I don't want to wreck it, because I have no way of getting a replacement hand.

>>6408237
>Either way I find G1 Orion to be a weird design overall
That's because he was originally designed as ultra magnus, and had missiles and wings. They repurposed the design once it was dictated that they use the diaclone upgrade.

>>6409691

I don't know why'd you go official anymore since some chink is going to steal the mold, upscale it, triple the parts count and sell it at half the cost.

The third party market is like the ancap meme ball ultra free market. With no one giving a shit about intellectual property it's all about making the best product possible.

>>6409350

Guy who has been directly involved with Toyworld. Relaying messages and polling fans and the like.

>>6409757
>That's because he was originally designed as ultra magnus, and had missiles and wings

Okay that actually sounds super cool. Got a pic of that?

>>6408998
Wei Jiang is pretty tops, they're the guys that made the great OS Evasion OP, MPP10, and OS improved AoE Hound.

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>>6409833
Floro Dery's concept art is insanely detailed

>>6410001
>racist Walky tears because a Hispanic man did more for the franchise than his "I draw like a 2nd grader" Indiana-born ass ever will

Yep, keep pretending that joke of a wiki you run is a real wiki, bitch. I've seen more facts and less shitty jokes on ED. Literally no other legit wiki is run the way he runs that place.

>>6407408
Fwiw I ordered that set and had no problems with it at all. I gave the other head to Banzaitron and the big gun to tank Megs.

>>6410021
The way floro Dery was treated by the Allspark is extremely unfair. He's a 70 year old man who worked on Transformers for 3 years 30 years ago, of course he's not going to remember every last detail like some autistic nerds who obsess over it.I firmly believe he came up with the transforming concept independently of the Diaclone concept art. They idea of a transforming planet is just inevitable as you consider to one up the scale of past things.

>>6410097
the Allspark is packed full of Clinton-loving jackass liberals that think they're the best thing to happen to the fandom. The owner is a fat fuck that dates underage girls, Walky is a known scammer that should be in jail but he's protected by the fandom and anyone who posts that he did steal money gets banned. The fact Jin loves it is more proof he's a liberal shill that only pretends to be a Trumpet.

Dave van Domelen, one of the lone-time fandom people, has a subforum over there, yet I get the impression he has an unspoken hatred of half those people. He's one of the few toy reviews that's honest, which means he doesn't get free toys from Hasbro. When was the last time you saw Ben "Hasbro gives me gifts" Yee say a bad thing about a toy?

It doesn't much surprise me that a bunch of jackoff manchildren think themselves the most important thing about the franchise. Biggest insult is that they believe any mention of "allspark" in TF fiction is a direct nod to their board even though they stole it from Beast Machines.

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Toyworld is venturing into the bayverse it seems.

Managed to snag MT Giant for a pretty decent price from a UK seller. What am I in for?

>>6410221

Outdated fun.

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>>6410102

TFW may be filled with a rouge gallery of insufferable posters but at least the staff had the foresight to ban any sort of politics outright. The manchildren that make up the fandom already have enough to opinions to excrete and smear on each other as it is. Seeing so many hobby sites become embroiled in completely unrelated politicking and ideological gerrymandering has been tragic.

>>6410166

>Following UT, Dream Factroy, and WJ into the movie wars

Aw shit I knew it was only a matter of time but I'm so glad the saturation of G1 stuff is pushing companies elsewhere. We may face the great Blackout wars in a few years' time.

>>6410166
>Bayformers

This is China's fault, I know it.

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QUICK
POST TFCON HYPE DREAMS

>>6410102
>Dave van Domelen
Who is this. I want to watch some reviews

>>6410333

IF Nickle
Tittymonster THICC dat ass femmbot's of Arcee/Windblade/Chromia/that cop car RiD chick with castoff parts (don't you fuckin' judge me I want me some robot tits and cunts)
Piranacon box set with more G1 toy-esque coloration and a price cut so the damn thing is more affordable
A Liokaiser that isn't shit, shit, a 2.0 box set from TFC with it's joints replaced with Poseidon style connectors would be fine
IF Dinobots. No one wanted the Dynobots, do it fucking right you cunts, give people the ones you know they want and will sell like hotcakes

>>6410339
>watch
He's not a YouTuber, but an old-school reviewer that writes them down. Been doing tf reviews since bw-era.

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>>6410333

Trips confirm

>>6410343
I'll take manga mech Nickle

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>>6410333
It's probably way too early/obscure, but I'd be down for an anode of some sort. I never knew how much I'd always wanted a space-biplane until I saw it. While we're on the topic of stuff that'll never happen, a zenyatta from DX9 to go with their bastion.

Slightly more plausible edition: TR compatible bodies.

>>6410423
>It's probably way too early/obscure

Probably too early. Obscurity isn't much of a factor to 3P's since half the stuff they push out is obscure as fuck, or from some Japanese show no one ever heard of before the 2000's that was 20+ years old even then. Shit, we'll still getting designs that are from the beginning of IDW's run from some companies.

>>6410423

Lug and anode have nice unconventional designs and although modes I would like to see a toy of. but they are so fucking forced in the comic it makes me want to vomit.

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>>6410343
>A Liokaiser that isn't shit
Dead company for you

>>6410482
Holding out hope they pop up at this TFCon with a proto or colour pictures.

>>6410479
Maybe obscure isn't the word, but you get what I mean. It seems like every company tries the same character at once while one or two put out smaller ones. Like now with springers, or a couple years ago when everyone was making dinobots. I'd buy a decent nickle in a heartbeat over Yet Another Kup.

But yeah, definitely early.

>>6410573
This is why I love Master Made. They were there for the monsterbots when no one else was.

>>6410392
I need a best girl Nickle to boss around my Tarn, Vos and Kaon.

>>6410480

They're forced because of the revamp fro MTMTE to LL.

If IDW hadn't forced that they would have been introduced differently. Roberts kind of had to do it in order to somewhat make LL 1 a decent jump off point for new readers. I believe originally they were going to be introduced by running into the mutineers.

>>6410233
Glad too, though they're pretty darn late into the game.

>>6409719

Anyone?

>>6410233
Oh kek that pic sorta reminds me of Tom and Jerry

>>6410794
I haven't had any issues with mine, no.

>>6410584
I know you meant Fans Hobby. And are you going for all 3? How are the first two if you are?

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Would you pay upwards of 200 USD for a 40cm movie grimmlock figure assuming he's well built?

>>6410807

mmk. I'll probably use a file on the bits so it can slide all the way onto the hand.

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>>6410819
>Bay Grimlock

nah, color's too bland for me but if it was less than a hundred bucks then I'd consider. It's just not the same if he's not in scale with DMK OP.

>>6410835

I think if you took some artistic liberties and made him brassy gold or a streaky silver/charcoal he could look nice. An accurate grimlock would look like a copper-rusted green metal covered in dirt and moss.

>>6410819
Show me what he looks like in color first. Everyone loves giving bayformer grimlock the most disgusting color schemes possible.

>>6410844

Movie grimmlock is canonically shit looking so I don't know what they could do. Maybe a matt black finish with silvers and greys thrown in?

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I'm new to third party, but I'm going to TFcon and this is an exclusive that will only be available there.

Is this mold good? should I pick one up?

>>6410875
Consensus seems to be a 6-8 out of 10.

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>>6410864
In concept Grimlock having a knight motif is pretty damn neat. In the AoE movie though it's criminally underused.

He'd probably look decent in pure black and red Shadow the Hedgehog color though. Gray is just grehh

>movie is "The Last Knight"
>No Knight battle besides 6 seconds of Prime and Megs.

>>6410880
so buy or no buy?

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>>6407789
apparently their going to unveil the whole team at TFC.

>>6410333
MMC Helex and Tesarus

>>6410919
I have no idea why I'm letting myself be so optimistic about this, especially considering literally everyone always drops the ball on Motormaster.

I think I'm just too desperate for a geewun Menasor.

>>6410333
MMC Helex and Tesarus like >>6410929 mentions
IF DJD set
IF Bludgeon
Manga Mech Nickel
Manga Mech Whirl (or MMC Whirl that doesn't look like shit)
I want to see updates on that Bonecrusher and Blackout that was teased
Updates on that MP style Starscream that looked pretty good but I forgot who makes

>>6410931
>literally everyone always drops the ball on Motormaster
TFM delivered an pretty solid MM even though its IDW based. Keith seems to FINALLY be learning from his past mistakes and keeps improving. So there's a good chance he may deliver a solid MM as well.

>>6410961

It's Maketoys. They're doing the Galaxy Force Screamer and a G1 one.

>>6410972
>Keith seems to FINALLY be learning from his past mistakes and keeps improving.
I feel like I see this line before every XTB/KFC release and it's never true.

>>6410808
Fuck, yeah I meant Fans Hobby. Master Made just share some of their aesthetics.

I'm also probably going for their Power Master OP and Overlord depending on reviews.

>>6411022
Thanks I was completely drawing a blank on who made it, just remembered it looked nice.

>>6410961
>Manga Mech

That line is dead. MT haven't shat anything out for it in ages. Sad too, I liked the look of it, but $60 for a set with one guy I don't give a shit about and $60 for another set with some upgrade shit I don't give a shit about was a terrible fucking idea anyway.

>>6411032

This is 100% correct. They never improve, they just sucker people every goddamn time. It's like the Combiner Cycle, except no combiners are usually involved, just people blindly going "MAYBE THIS TIME KFC WON'T FUCK UP" and surprise, they do. Every time.

>>6411078

I'm loving THICC Hobby myself. Got a Not-Doublecross coming to me...At some point. Stupid preorder's on other things got me waiting on stuff before it gets shipped.

>>6411142
Hey anon said "post your dreams" so I'm going all out. I do agree that making you buy shit you don't want with each figure that you do want is really a bad idea on their part though.

I don't blame MT for bailing on Manga Mech. The comics have lost a ton of steam.

>>6411197
Yeah but when they gave up on it the comics were still doing good and people were practically begging for IDW stuff. I think its their poor plan of including something no one wants+ their prices.

>>6411181

Hey, I'm not criticizing, but it's probably not coming back.

>>6411197
>>6411210

The comics are still doing fairly well according to the /co/ sales topics going around. They're definitely not where they used to be, top 10 all the time, but they're solid enough.

The current problems are probably them just spreading stuff way too thin. TF people generally don't care about GI Joe and MASK and whatever else, so shoving TF characters into that just results in people ignoring titles.

>>6410882
I love the movie grimlock design, at least the toy one. It really gives off the barbarian king feel, what with the sceptre-mace, dino-head shoulder pads with tooth tassles, pointy boots. It fits Grimlock to a tee.

>>6410916
People like it more that Badcube's version.

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>>6411215
>Hey, I'm not criticizing, but it's probably not coming back.
I know but let me dream anon.

>>6411215
>TF people generally don't care about GI Joe and MASK and whatever else, so shoving TF characters into that just results in people ignoring titles.

THIS. I don't even care enough to fucking pirate stuff like GI Joe or MASK, even though Joe stars Skywarp too.

The combined universe was a fucking massive mistake. Have you noticed LL and TAAO have nothing to do with it? And OP basically started in the same place as RID left off. Revolution did pretty much nothing to alter Barber's ongoing storylines.

Fucking shitty decision by IDW.

>>6410916
I'd say go for it. Worst case scenario you can sell it for a decent price since it's an exclusive.

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MP Ironhide mold looks SO much better with this upgrade kit. Those hip skirts are up there with the most perplexing design decisions in the MP line.

>>6411246
>The combined universe was a fucking massive mistake

I think it was more of a mistake to just begin it with crossover after crossover. It created a long period of "Holy fuck just let me read about who I care about". It'd probably have been better recieved by more people if they sprinkled some crossovers over the course of a year or so.

That said, I like ROM and Action Man and GI Joe stuff mixed with the TF stuff. It's been fun. I'd also like to see some 3P's take say, MASK shit and turn it into actual TF's with little rider figures to go with them too.

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Susanoo should be here in the next three days or so. Should I cut my losses and return it to sender? I can still get a full store credit refund for him at this point.

>>6411255

Up to you man. If the place you bought from has a good return policy, I'd open it up and see if the copy was a good one and I liked it. If they have shit return policies (ie: unopened only), then yeah, don't bother, ship it right back.

>>6411215
>>6411246
>>TF people generally don't care about GI Joe and MASK and whatever else, so shoving TF characters into that just results in people ignoring titles.

Thirding this. I fucking hate all these tie-ins. I just want to read about Transformers, if I wanted to read about the other franchises I'd be fucking reading about them.

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>>6411267
Because the TF-Hasbro cinematic verse isn't happening so they're shoving it in paper where there's already an established universe.

>>6411328
Well thats because it failed as various movies (before they could even mash them altogether) and if they keep forcing it in the comics theyre going to tank those too.

>>6411252
What is the name of the kit?

And yeah at first, before I actually got either version of the mold, I thought "oh well I'm sure they couldn't get anything to work, the figure is otherwise fine the hip skirts don't bother me that much anyway". But when I got my Hands on Ratchet then Ironhide and got a good look at them, I have seriously no idea why did they literally just do what that kit is doing.

>>6409987

Nice. I'm preordering then

>>6407093

How about Pandinus?

>>6409213

Annoying, since Menasor should logically be the smallest of all combiners.

>>6409775

Sometimes capitalism is good.

>>6411078
>>6411145
victory leo, junkions, apeface, trailbreaker and hoist beg to differ.

>>6411253
>I'd also like to see some 3P's take say, MASK shit and turn it into actual TF's with little rider figures to go with them too

I'd kill for an Acid-Rain-esq 3P MASK toyline.

>>6411342
TF was the only successful Hasbro film franchise.

GI Joe- mostly dead franchise that Hasbro barely supports anymore, shitty first script with bad casting, try-hard sequel that wasn't even in theaters very long

Battleship- literally why in the hell was this made? Literally why in the hell was it about aliens and not a WW2 film?

Jem- shitty source material, bad director(made the GI Joe sequel that bombed), unpopular forgotten franchise that no one asked to be revived, couldn't even make back half it's budget and it only cost a measly 5 mil to even make! Could have only failed harder if directed by Uwe Boll(but probably would have been more watchable), certainly would have zero place in the plot of a TF crossover even if there was a massive cinematic universe

Micvronauts- tie-in to TF just to sell it, didn't need to be made, not even a real Hasbro property to start with, only getting done because Tomy never gave a fuck about the Takara brands after they bought out the company(had Takara remained separate I believe they would have never let Bay near the TF films)

>>6411252
Name of kit plz

>>6411580
>Jem
Don't forget the Movie had almost nothing to do with the original show anyways. It's literally about a girl rising to stardom through Youtube and having all the family and friends drama that comes with it. The computer that gives her power and alternate identity is only in the last few minutes. She doesn't even fight anyone of her enemies from the show. If Transformers is what happens when a Director does whatever he wants to a fault, then Jem is what happens when committee assumes direct control and forges everything entirely on demographics.

Just watch this Trailer and tell me that you'd want you'd want a doll of anybody in it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaPgK073xEg

>>6411580
>had Takara remained separate I believe they would have never let Bay near the TF films
Takara would have had no say in the matter period.

As much as I adore the 1984-85 cast, I'd love to see some 3P company have the balls to move beyond Masterpiece and Legends of those characters.

Why not a 3P Pretender? Don't try to rethink the concept. Keep it simple. Shell with a robot inside. You can make the shell way more posable these days. The robot can be both detailed and posable.

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>>6411610
Baikanfu style pretenders?
I'd love an IDW Bludgeon and Thunderwing like that.

>>6411610
fanprojects already did Dinoforce (with the shells) and no one cared.

>>6411635
That'd be awesome but horrendously expensive.

I wouldn't mind Pretenders that are "regular" Transformers but have elements of their shell designs for both robot and vehicle mode. So Skullgrin could turn from a muscled demon with a horned skull into a technodemonic tank seemingly made of flesh, bone and weapons.

>>6411638
Everyone liked the robots. Then they decided after the fact to make the shells.

>>6411635
That's what we need for Metalhawk I'd love to see the Monsters like Skullgrin, Bomb Burst & Submaurauder in that style.

>>6411648
That's exactly what we don't need. We don't need to try to be more clever than the source material. Just make the old designs better, with modern designs and technologies. Even if they're expensive, if they're done right, it'll sell.

>>6411608
they own the franchise, Hasbro is a licensor, you stupid motherfucker.

>>6411594
I'd rather lose my eyesight than watch anything related to that shit series, not unless they reboot and go with the proposed 2008 script where they were a death metal band and their "enemy" was a black Neo-Nazi misogynist white power rapper that masturbated to Hitler. The toon sucked too, Jerry Only is the Misfits, not some SJW ripoff.

>enemies

You mean mean-spirited unlikeable man-faced bitches that should have been in one episode but were in the whole series because the writers had to sell more crappy toys?

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>>6411691
>they own the franchise, Hasbro is a licensor, you stupid motherfucker.
I'm going to assume you are just misinformed.

Transformers was created by Hasbro after they bought the right to distribute Takara's toys within the USA.
Hasbro and TakaraTomy now have co-ownership of the brand. Hasbro makes international decisions for the brand while TakaraTomy retains control within Japan.

>>6411543

Those all had breakage and tolerance problems, every last one of them. Shit, two different reviewers broke fucking apeface during the reviews.

>>6411610

They already are doing late G1 figures. See: Fanshobby and the Monsterbots/PMP/G2 Laser Prime/etc.

Problem is everything is in MP or Legends size. THAT is what needs to change. I want shit in Deluxe to Voyager sizes, like MMC does.

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>>6411691
>Hasbro is a licensor
See these guys? They're are based on Hasbro owned characters. That's how Takara can get away with selling them since the characters themselves were originally based on Toys Hasbro licensed from Bandai and sold in America where Bandai didn't. If Takara owned Transformers and sold these figures, they'd get sued out the ass by Bandai for copyright infringement. It's a flaky and confusing situation, but point is Transformers is a Hasbro property that they work jointly with Takara to make.

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>Jem movie about Youtube fame

Unless internet trolls are mailing her boxes of shit because of her fame, then it's not realistic

I also know who should have played the rival band bitch

>der durr Hasbro owns Transformers

That explains the "produced under license from Tomy" on every TF toy Hasbro sells. You people really are retards.

>>6410423
female biplane? where can I sell my soul to get this made?

>>6411797

Any way to contact Iron Factory to jump on it or something? I mean, how well do these companies listen anyway?

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>>6411648
>That'd be awesome but horrendously expensive.

Would it, however? The original Pretenders - the inner robots - were really simple. I mean frankly they were insulting, especially the second year.

A Deluxe or even slightly smaller, folding up into a nice and compact form to fit inside the torso of a Leader-sized 'shell'..

>>6411635

Is that like a new Godaikin Gardian?

>>6411772
>"produced under license from Tomy" on every TF toy Hasbro sells

Tomy owns the molds dude, not the characters.

>>6411821
>wanting IF to make a literal nobody that most of the people who actually know who she is hate her because of how she was introduced
This is a really stupid idea unless she becomes wildly popular like Nautica or something.

>>6411879
He probably also thinks that Takara uses different factories and plastics from Hasbro.

>>6411882
>not being able to divorce a good design from a meh character

Man, literal who's or unpopular characters but good designs get made all the time in the 3P world. And IF puts out "WHO" characters all the time. Look at Black Shadow, Sixshot, and Overlord. Look at the Dynobots (yeah, the Dinobot's themselves aren't "WHO?"'s themselves, but those designs are certainly nothing ANYONE asked for or wanted when they heard "IF is doing Dinobots!").

>>6411874

I just realized, are all THREE of these mini robots gang-molded together?

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>>6411898
>literal who's or unpopular characters
>Black Shadow, Sixshot, and Overlord
No

>>6411926

Saying 'no' doesn't make it a reality, Anon. Most TF fans have no idea who the fuck those are. If it wasn't featured in the G1 cartoon (ok, Sixshot was, like...Once), or the current movies, it might as well not exist, to most people.

I 100% assure you asking any random TF "fan" on the street (coming out of, say, the movies), would have no idea who the fuck those are, and would probably tell you they look gay.

>>6411933
The people who know third parties exist would know those guys. Sixshot was huge in Headmasters, Overlord was the main villain of Masterforce and then a different version was in the most celebrated IDW story. Only Black Shadow is a literally who of those three.

>>6411939

Theres a lot of cross pollination that happens between the franchise fans man, and a lot that doesn't cross pollinate. Shit from 30+ year old Japanese shows isn't gonna pop up on anyones radar. All the time on /co/ I see people going "I wish X had a figure" without being aware of 3P's and the like, or even being aware "X" got an official figure at some point.

Shit, I knew about 3P's before I knew about Overlord and Blackshadow, because they're obscure as fuck and I wasn't reading the IDW comics because thats yet another niche thing in the franchise.

>>6411898
Yes and the Dynobots sold like shit and people still bitch about them to this day. All the Phase Sixers you mentioned wete brought up again recently in the comic so they were relevant and sold well. Im not trying to be a dick but no one likes Anode and two people who want her because she has an awesome altmode is maybe not the smartest move for IF and I doubt they'll take a chance on her.

>>6411920

...I have no idea what that means.

...Wait, you mean the colors? Huh. Never noticed that before. That's pretty neat.

>>6411926

Still a little disappointed they used Black Shadow as a premold for Overlord rather than Thunderwing.

>>6411946

Overlord obscure? He was the main villain of 'Masterforce'.

>>6411962
Overlord was the main villain in Last Stand of the Wreckers and is the only currently still living reoccurring villain in More Than Meets the Eye/Lost Light. Dude's pretty well known amongst anyone in the Tf fandom for more than a year. My cousin who has no interest in Transformers beyond casual curiosity knows who he is.

>>6411933
And I assure to you that those random "fans" don't know/don't give a shit about Turds like we do and those same people aren't who Turds are marketed to, so it doesn't matter if you or they don't know who the fuck Sixshot or Overlord are the majority of people ITT, or on TFW or elsewhere following this shit does
What even are you trying to argue

>>6411983
I think hes trying to argue that IF should make his waifu.

>>6411962
>Overlord obscure? He was the main villain of 'Masterforce'.

Yes, the main villain of a Japanese only show from 30 years ago. Thats obscure, man. Thats obscure as fuck.

>>6411898
>>6411953

>Look at the Dynobots (yeah, the Dinobot's themselves aren't "WHO?"'s themselves, but those designs are certainly nothing ANYONE asked for or wanted when they heard "IF is doing Dinobots!").

Wasn't the point of IF early on to do cybertronian vehicle modes? With designs inspired by war Within and FoC? I mean, a huge part of kicking off the Legends hype was Metroplex in FoC and that sort of corresponded with the release of Titan class Metroplex, even though that wasn't FoC based. So I'm not sure why people would be surprised we'd get the Dynobots to match with other Pre-Earth characters. I get the dino modes are more popular, though, and it looks like IF is slowly ditching the cybertronian stuff.

I figure a part of that was because they might've expected Hasbro to strike while the iron is hot and do a full Legends line to go with their official Titans, , but they dropped that ball.

>>6411736
Save for peaugh ham handing apeface I haven't heard about any breakages. If there are they aren't widespread. Hell Bobby didn't even break AF while transforming him so that says a lot. Also haven't heard of any major tolerance issues that ruin those figures.

>>6412065
>With designs inspired by war Within and FoC?

Even FoC had Dinobots in their proper forms though.

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And finally a shot of Thousandkills in arm mode. In the event you were worried it wasn't a clusterfuck of tentacles handing off a solid mass. I'm probably using him and Big bite as arms.

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He also makes one of the better decent gun modes, though you ruin any color symmetry if you use him or Big Bite as a gun.

>>6412089
Yes, but War Within didn't, and honestly it skews more towards WW than anything(though they have original elements to their designs)

>>6412362

I'll be using him and Skalor as legs I think for symmetry. And because that arm will require constant re-positioning of those tentacles.

Seawing and Nautilator as arms, with Overbite as gun or by himself.

>>6412419

God neptune colors when. I like an asymmetrical bot but color has to balanced.

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>>6411989
His waifu is shit. IF should make my waifu.

>>6412577
I know she came with Prime but I want that head design.

>>6412577
They already did.

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>>6412577
Fuck all yall.
There is only one best girl.

Though Cybertron Thunderblast is also acceptable.

>>6412589

Legit would want a good, CHUG-ified figure of her. Especially now that she's in the comics as some memory-fucking mega bitch.

>>6412589
Anon you have just awful, awful taste, I'm sorry.

>>6410339
>>6410346

If you're looking for a youtuber who is an honest reviewer look to Bobby Skullface L.
He's extremely critical about toys, even when he gets them for free from 3rd party companies.
His reviews are pretty indept, going over every bit of engineering and every last decal on the toy.
When he doesn't have much to bitch, I know it's a good toy, design-wise.

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>>6412603
>she's in the comics as some memory-fucking mega bitch
That sounds interesting, but I just know that it's written by that Scotty cunt.
>>6412604
Name one flaw.

>>6412611
>Name one flaw.
She's annoying as fuck and should have been able to kill Arcee easily.

>>6412611
>Name one flaw.

Not that Anon, but her JPN dub version is pants on head retarded. Also her potential is wasted in the show, and her actual toys are trash. Which is why we REALLY need a good 3P toy of her, preferably CHUG-ified to get rid of noseless face syndrome that Prime/RiD has that looks very uncanny and same-facey.

>>6412611
I don't remember any character development she got, and she killed off one of the actual good characters of the show

>>6412616

This.

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>>6412615
>Jap dub is pants on retarded
Jap superior because they know how to have fun

>>6412616
>>6412617
Thirding this. Dumb bitch kept fucking off too so anything we might have gotten of her was pointless.

>>6412620
kys

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Give me my waifu who is literally trash.

>>6412614
Not an argument
>>6412615
Not an argument
>>6412616
>character development
She was a semi-recurring villain in a Transformers cartoon. She had an identifiable shallow personality quirk which is what most Transformers get.
>killed off one of the actual good characters of the show
Not an argument
>>6412622
Not an argument

>>6412620
>person who likes that shitty series having shit opinions
Of course
>>6412640
>She had an identifiable shallow personality quirk which is what most Transformers get.
That doesn't excuse her for being a flawed. Most of TFP had mediocre characters.

>>6412640
Anon those people all pointed out why they didn't like her, thats perfectly valid.

>>6412757

Why does he look so...Squinty? Also is it just me, or does Springer seem forever doomed to have shitty shoulders on all of his figures?

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>>6412763

OG springer had shit shoulders. It's just a part of the character.

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DX9 teasing their own stunticons.

>>6411252
NAME OF KIT PLZ

>>6412802
Jesus christ

>>6412928
Shadow Fisher Ironhide /Ratchet Upgrade

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>>6412974
Are you ready for the big wars?

>>6412866
>DX9 teasing their own stunticons
>DX9
>not even using their own Mightron
What a bitch.
DX9 usually makes some chunky figures at a decent price. I'd take them over KFC anyday.

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>>6412981
DX9 doing anything almost gives me a hope boner that FT will shit out an announcement for their own stunticons. FT has such a huge hateboner for them I could see it happening. They teased a devastator with their Ospreem announcement.

>no original megatitty Blackarachnia by IF

Who could possibly do her justice?

>>6412987
Does FT do anything except the blandest aesthetics and most "I guess it works" engineering? I've never felt anything towards their releases.

>>6412994
Takara's seems alright honestly.

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>>6412997
FT is widely regarded as the best in the business if not at the very least very quality products. They have a track record of doing very good, reliably well made shit.

'Wait for fanstoys' is a meme that exists for a reason.

t. Fantoys fanboy.

>>6413002
I completely forgot about their Galvatron. It definitely is the most interesting thing that they've done for sure.
Their figures just seem so 'safe' aesthetically though.

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>>6412998
Not with that shit chest assembly and GPS of hers.

>>6412979

Vis-á-vis the 'big wars' I am running to Canada.

>>6413012
Isn't this toy way too recent to be displaying GPS even if it had it?

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>>6413009
FT just tries to do G1. There are subtle stylistic choices though, like they opt to make everything very 'heroic' and 'ideal' in terms of proportions where, for example, Takara might try to copy the potato cartoon for better or for worse.

Their omega is a good example. It's less accurate to the fatter, more box chested DX9 take but (imo) it's better for it. But I'm also generally of the somewhat controversial opinion that a more cohesive, less accurate take on the cartoon designs comes out looking better than the G1 at all costs take.

>>6412766
>toys having to be shit because the geewun characters looked like shit
Can't escape this in first or third parties it seems. Nostalgia pandering is ruining Transformers toys across the board.

>>6412627
Ooh, I never cared a lick for Wreck-Gar as a character until is recent appearance IDW. The multi-colored mish-mash scrapmetal designs they used for the Junkions were great, and actually made sense.

>>6412998

Lol no

>>6413009
They're "safe" because they're so slavishly G1 but when it comes to MP scale, that's generally what people want. That's not to say there isn't a market for IDW or other aesthetics and even characters outside of G1, especially now that HasTak started doing movie and BW stuff but G1 is still the primary demographic. I'm not quite sure what you meant by "I guess it works" engineering because the point is that we get a pretty accurate alt mode that ends up being a pretty accurate bot mode and isn't that still the most important thing? Sometimes the engineering is fairly simple but that's honestly part of the beauty to them in that they have the ability to keep it simple while still ending up with near perfect representations of the character in both modes.

Take Grindor as an example. It's still the same Grimlock transformation we've all seen doezens of time across various Grimlock figures but that's because it's a transformation that just works for the character and it's extremely iconic. Not to mention they throw in a few clever nuances to it that actually help clean up the robot mode, particularly in the tail-to-legs transformation that we seldom see and after seeing how simple of an idea that is, it's a wonder we haven't really seen it before, especially on the official MP.

It could just be that G1 isn't really your speed and that's fine but still, it's hard to deny that FT has some of the most well-built products across the 3rd party industry, regardless of your feelings for the aesthetic.

>>6413021
Gabriel does a few neat things, like that head being able to flip for the cockpit but overall, Giganticus just still looks better overall. One thing that particularly stands out every time I look at the two together is the track wings. Gabriel's has some sculpted details, sure, but in bot mode, they're still pretty clearly the bottoms of the tracks and you can see it with all of the exposed holes in it that were used in the mold to A. use less plastic, and B. make it easier to release from the mold. It's something all plastic toys have somehwere but FT made it a point to hide that by doing something as simple as having the tracks fold and peg together to avoid showing the underside. It's a small detail but it goes a long way in giving us a more polished-looking product, whereas it gives DX9's a slightly unfinished feel.

>>6413052
The biggest aesthetic bonus points Gabriel has for me is the sharper looking claws and the more pointy knee pads. Everything else just feels worse. The slab like chest and defined abdomen is so much nicer to look at than the brickness of Gabriel.

>>6413022

So stop buying them, and shut the fuck up. Or start up your own 3P and make what you like.

>>6413021
The one on the right looks better than the fat one on the left.

>>6413120
>like MPs but don't enjoy how slavishly G1 they're becoming
>REEEEE, just collect Generations, MP is about G1 accuracy!!!
>Generations start to get more and more G1 accurate, too. Quality is shit anyway.
>REEEEE, shut up and buy 3P! Generations was ALWAYS about G1 accuracy!
>3Ps are basically just becoming MP imitations with even more slavish G1 accuracy
>REEEEE, just make your own toys you faggot!
It's painful being a Transformers fan with good taste. You geewunners are the fucking worst.

>>6413134
>tfw I am a geewunner
I like old style stuff as much as the next faggot geewunner but even I like the variety of some IDW stuff or some of the more interesting movie stuff. G1 really is taking over everything, it's strange to watch.

>>6413163
It's funny to look at designs that people LOVED back when Classics started to become a thing. Toys like Classics Prime or Sideswipe would be fucking hammered now for being too different from a the G1 designs. I mean, fuck, there are plenty of people out there who hate MP-10 now for not being Geewun enough, which is absolutely insane.

I prefer the G1 designs,but I still recognize when they are hot garbage. MP-10 is my ideal aesthetic. G1-styled, but with enough ideas drawn from other sources and original touches to make it look just plain good. The fact that this design philosophy is now vilified is a bit nuts.

>>6413179
Funny how it's only in transformers threads looking like the source material is a bad thing ever comes up

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>>6413134
>You geewunners are the fucking worst.

Not a geewunner, whatever that buzzword shit is that you faggots keep shouting as your answer to everything, just tired of listening to you faggots whine that things aren't up to your imaginary standard. Don't buy what you don't like. If theres nothing you can like in a toy line anymore, you probably should just shut the fuck up and stop collecting it and move on to something else.

>>6413187
Because Transformers source material is shit. It's an ancient cartoon that was written by hacks who didn't give a shit and drawn by Korean slave labor. Shouldn't we strive for something better than that?

>>6413187
To be fair the MP line has branched in about 5 different directions over the years and they don't fit with one another well at all. The originals were in a different scale entirely. Mps after Bumblebee had their aesthetics changed to be as g1 as possible and now you have Ironhide and inferno Stand out next to MP-10 and the shitty seeker mold because of the detailing shift. There are two stabs at movie aesthetic and beast wars branching out as well. It's not unified with itself.

>>6413196
>triggered

>>6413209
Well really, MPs before 10 don't count anymore. That was before they had any kind of plan or direction for the line. Everything from 10 to the early 20s had a generally G1 design with other elements mixed in where applicable. Current stuff is G1 accurate to the cartoon, to a fault. That's really only two different directions.

To say that the Movie MP figures are a different "direction" isn't really true. It's just different source material. Of course it doesn't have the same aesthetic. And really, the Beast Wars figures are definitely aiming at show accuracy just as much as the Autobots and Decepticons are now. That's why MP Primal doesn't have any sculpted hair texture.

>>6413200
You act like the quality of source material has ever meant anything. People want stuff from their fav media. There is nothing wrong with that. You want new takes, there are movie lines, RID, and plenty of third parties based on IDW or totally original designs.

>>6413322

>THEY SHOULD CATER TO MY NOSTALGIA FIRST AND FOREMOST

>>6413334
>missing the point this badly.

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>better Apeface and Snapdragon than KFC
>at fucking legends size

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>6413370

You could shit a better toy than KFC could make, it's not like that is an achievement. That'd be like being proud you beat a bunch of retarded kids in a spelling bee.

>>6413370
>no dedicated thigh swivels
Goddamnit

>>6413370
>>6413373
to be entirely fair, it's not the the transformations suck or that the figures themselves look bad. Quite the contrary actually (at least as far s the design and sculpts go at least). The problem is KFC is still using garbage plastic that staps and crumbles just through normal handling and transformation. If they could just get their shit together and start using better plastic, there would be a LOT less to complain about.

>>6413347

I just wanted to shitpost....

[spoiler]However, I don't like G1 designs either.[/spoiler]

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Didn't realize Spindirft could fit in a CHUG shelf as a small deluxe with the 3P OS Powerglide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myAkJW3ejFs

Wotafa's got a review up for Not-Motormaster. Dunno what he's saying though, can't speak 11. I anyone can point or some pros/cons/whatever he's saying, feel free.

>>6413452
>can't speak 11
I understood that reference!

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>>6412987
>FT will shit out an announcement for their own stunticons
As much as I like FT I'd like to have a set of MP stunticons while I'm young. So It'll be either TFM or DX9 for me.

>>6413682
I feel like they're doing a lot better about getting stuff out. Omega was announced last december and he'll be here within the year. That's a lot better than the three year tease cycle they used to pull.

>>6413314
Arguably 9 kinda does, at least the rodimus portion. the whole point of MP-10 was to make an Optimus in scale with MP-9

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>>6413383
Probably have have ball joints in the actual thigh. (I hope.) Almost all their other releases do. That's close enough to a dedicated swivel for me.

Unrelatedly I'm digging this new MM.

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I was looking at some random reviews and stumbled on Fansproject's Motormaster. I actually really like what they did here by having the obligatory trailer split in such a way that you get all the combiner kibble in one half, but a complete standalone Motormaster in the other half, only with a short trailer instead of a long one (also this picture doesn't show that you can partsform door panels onto the back to close it up).

Do any other Motormasters do this? I actually found this to be a really clever solution to the "how the fuck do we get Motormaster in scale" problem.

>>6412977
Motherfucker, why am I only just now finding out about that?

And they're sold out pretty much everywhere, it seems, I'm gonna have to chance chinese ebay sellers for this.

>>6413715

This guy>>6413696

Does the same thing.

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>>6413715
This one >>6413696 I just posted does actually. I don't actually know the scale or who makes this. I just saved it from FB earlier.

>>6413370

>>More Unique toys Palm Series

fuck yes, today is a good day.

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>>6413755
TransFormMission's Powertrain

Apparently he can wear basically all his extras in a crazy gundam-esque armored up mode too. I honestly might get him as a standalone; I've always loved Motermaster's look but don't really need another Menasor beyond the CW one.

>>6413715

The best part about it is that you can use the back of the trailer door from the combiner kibble and stick it on MM's backside and he can get away with it like he's hauling a tiny trailer. Diesel is actually and fairly decent robot mode if you fold up the kibble on the back to clean him up. His fatal flaw is that he's a jigsaw puzzle to do anything with.

Transformission/Generation Toy, like how they took cues from Maketoys Giant, did things very similar to FP's MM and is pictured in the thread. Though he splits from the kibble can't really function as a stand alone vehicle.

>>6413696
I just don't like the look of balljointed knees as swivels. It's better than nothing for sure, but it doesn't look as nice.

>>6413688
Omega was actually revealed at last years TFcon along with Skyfire. Though they have gotten better (possibly six or seven this year) realistically a FT stuticon set wouldn't see its first figure til at least four or five years later. I'm honestly expecting constructicon renders this year and hope for prototypes next with the possibility of one or two making it out before years end.

>>6406927
Can anybody fill a newfag in about why Maketoys are desirable? Like why is a Despotron better than buying an actual Megatron?

>>6413979
I think it boils down to what you're looking for. I've heard Despotron is way more playable than the official MP, which is a major factor.

>>6413979

Depends on the specific release. Some of their stuff is amazing, some is meh.

I have Despotron and he's like 95% perfect. And has none of the problems MP36 has.

Their Galaxy Force Starscream looks super good and their version of IDW megs seems good too.

>>6413994
I have depotron and MP 36. Had Takara not played their hand despotron would have been the best MP rep of megs. Both are equally playable though I will say despotrons transformation is more enjoyable.

>>6413696
>really cool transformation
>looks decent in Motormaster mode
>turns into the ugly fucking IDW Menasor, that he only looked like that in ONE issue, but every fucking 3P ever has copied that hideous looking shit from back when Guido Guidi was experimenting with different styles and it was the ugliest fucking style ever and lasted only 2 or 3 months before fan outcry forced him to revert to a much better style

This hurts. I'd be all over this thing if it didn't turn into that ONE ugly fucking Menasor from that one fucking issue. I'm mad as fuck. Why do 3P's keep doing that ONE fucking Menasor design?

>>6413979

Chunky aesthetic that more closely resembles the comic bookey versions of Megs that people have come to enjoy. Isn't made of thousands of folding, easily scratching panels. Doesn't break by just looking at it. And cheaper, a lot fucking cheaper, which is insanity because now official shit is getting to be more expensive than the same-Or higher-quality figures.

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>>6414074
It's that face really. It's actually a nice face, but not for Menasor.

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>>6414074

Have you ever considered that you just love the taste of shit?

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If anyone ever makes 3P Blackout I hope they add a little Lennox to come with. He's one of the three good humans in the movies.

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>>6408998
How does wei jiang get around using official molds? isnt hasbro alowed to sue them?