Transformers 3rd party general: AEC Edition

>>6379839
>Galaxy Force

Eghhhhhhhhhhhh.

>>6379839
Awwww sheeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiit it's happening. I need this, like, yesterday.

>>6379839
I need to see how they'll handle Prime and Meg/Galv first.

Fanshobby just teased G2 Megatron

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>>6379929
>Prime and Meg/Galv
I can wait a few years for those two. They already have decent to great toys.

You know who NEEDS and update?

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>>6379949
Make it TR compatible

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>>6379939
>>6379946
This is a good timeline

>>6379839
That looks way better than my wallet hoped it would.

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I really have to hand it to Generation Toy for putting out the sexiest boxes of any company ever.

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Look at this sexy fuck with his overly complex prime gimmick.

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>>6380089
I prefer the Maxus, it just hits Dons art. Shame it's so fiddly.

>>6379939
>>6379946
Oh fuck. I've avoided the urge to get Fanshobby's Laser Prime till now but G2 Megatron was my first Megatron toy as a kid. Unless it looks really terrible I'm in.

>>6380095
Honestly, from the reviews GT doesn't seem that much more stable.

>>6379839
Is this MP Seeker sized?

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>>6380103

lmao

>>6379946
I'm in the exact same boat as >>6380098

I got Archenemy, and while I absolutely love the figure, I didn't see a point in double dipping in that mold. But fuck...G2 Megatron was one of my favorite toys as a kid. And my autism always demands that I have a Prime to go up against Megatron (and vice versa).

Fuck...

>>6380089
>Pop Song Review

It's got Coldplay, it's shit.

>>6379839
So I just want a few good Transformers, and I figure 3rd Party stuff is probably my best bet. I want a Lio Convoy/Leo Prime, Optimus Prime, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime and an Ultra Magnus. Ideally in the same scale. Any suggestions? I haven't dipped my foot into the 3rd party pool before but I'm tired of Hasbro's offerings disappointing me.

>>6380120
Everything around the shoulders looked floppy as fuck on kuma nigger's copy.

>>6380088
>>6380089

How's the shoulders on yours? The few reviews out there say he's a floppy motherfucker.

>>6380177
>>6380156

His shoulders were a little loose but were fixed by taking ten seconds to quarter turn some screws to personal taste. Nothing was floppy though, even out of the box.

>>6380190

Play around with it for a bit, move the arms up and down a lot. Does it loosen up again or does it stay tight?

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>>6380194

He's solid even when I torque him back and forth. He's easy to manipulate but stiff. Like Despotron if anyone owns that.

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Also these shit phone pics make his reds come in either orange or super saturated. It's a much nicer shade in person.

>>6379839
>navy blue instead of black

Fucking why?

>>6379929
Those ain't happening unless you buy this first.

>>6380190
>>6380194
>two thousand and seventeen years after the birth of our lord Jesus Christ
>using three piece friction joints on $100+ toys

>>6380219

But it works just fine. You literally just tighten/loosen a screw to get it exactly how you want it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNQjFpkdxCU

A Calidus review is up

>>6379839
>RE:Master

Damn, I was hoping he was Cross Dimension. Not sure I want an MP scale Galaxy Force Star Scream

>>6379839
So Thunder Erebus is dropping before Thunder Manus?

I mean, fuck yeah and all I love me that Nemesis color scheme but damn.

>>6380149
For Leo Prime there is pretty much only Perfect Effects Leonidas.

While I understand the initial release was plagued with problems, hopefully they will be resolved with the upcoming Origin version of the figure which was recently announced.

For Optimus it really depends on the style of Prime you want. There are at least a dozen if not more for you to choose from.

Hot Rod has too IDW incarnations coming down the line but not much else outside of an upgrade kit for the classics version.

Ultra Magnus pretty much only has one 3p figure that isn't an add on for classics Prime. Unfortunately it was put out by Keith's Fantasy Club which is notoriously shit.

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>>6380304
Forgot pic

>>6380304
>Hot Rod
DX9 has Carry and FT is making an MP one too.

Any thoughts on Seraphicus Prominon? Considering picking him up because best play pattern is best.

>>6380341
Do you like how he looks and okay with the skeleton trailer is leaves around when fully armored?

If yes, go for it. I think he's on sale. I'm going to hold out a few more years for the Beelzeboss kit to drop.

>>6380276

Anyone have any idea what the fuck is being said, though?

>>6380403
If this was on the same scale as Reformatted and Cross Dimension I'd be all over it but I just don't need a masterpiece scale of this design.

$100 for Thunder Erebus is pretty reasonable though.

>>6380436
I just watched it for the transformation, and I like what I see there.

>>6380276
I think this will look a lot better in his Lost Light colour scheme.

>>6380437
>If this was on the same scale as Reformatted and Cross Dimension I'd be all over it but I just don't need a masterpiece scale of this design.
This.

Oh I'll just put with all my other MP scale figures from the same era-- oh wait!

>>6380089
Dude, watch Optinony Primetano instead.

How is he?

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Do we have any pics showing how tall the inner bot from Erebus is?

>>6380437
On the plus side, Starscream was huge in Galaxy Force/Cybertron (at least he was after his upgrade) so this actually works.

>>6380454
Put him with legends figures as Supreme Starscream.

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>>6380458

Shootery Schooltano is a hipster. Unrelateable desu.

He's fucking great.

>>6380459
Anyone know if Erebus will be able to hold the weapons that come with Striker Noir?

>>6380631
THey haven't said anything but I would think so. All Cross Dimension figures so far share the same grip.

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Is the fansproject function x line dead before they shit out snapdragon and heardhead?

Is fansproject dead in general?

>>6380711
If they don't show anything at TFCon next month it's probably safe to assume they're done.

>>6380711
We don't know if Function X is going to continue or not. Let alone if we're ever going to see a fixed headmaster for their Highbrow so he can swap with the others. They've been rather quiet ever since they released their dinogirls. Their Snarl was finished the last time we saw it, so they're probably waiting until TFCon to drop preorders and show off new things. If not, they may do what they did last time and take a year or so break to reevaluate themselves.

>>6380133

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>>6380756

They ship same day so its out the door and in the truck at around 5pm or so. Typically takes 3 days to to get to places if they use USPS. FedEx is a few days longer.

>>6379839
Man, this is amazing. I love how all the typical guys got made so companies are branching into other series.

>>6380149

Well for Hot Rod and Magnus the MPs aren't that bad. Yeah they have a few issues but pretty much no figure is 100% perfect, 3rd party or official.

Like that other anon said there are sooooo many Optimus figs to choose from.

>>6379839

After seeing the color pics I pre-ordered instantly. I'm not even that attached to Galaxy Force but this looks so fucking good.

>>6380308

Is FT still making Hoodlum (Hot Rod)? I wondered if that was still happening after the new MP version.

I'm very tempted on the MP because everyone says the flat chest looks better in-hand, but FT usually knocks stuff out of the park.....

>>6380215
Probably an attempt at letting it pass for a G1 Starscream.

>>6380403
Any waist articulation?

>>6380796
Cool, I should have kultur by the end of the week, then. I was on the fence, but I'm hoping he's one of those toys that impresses in-hand.

>>6380822

It's there in the post you replied to. It sort of cuts diagonally right above the cockpit I don't know how far the range is though. The guns can move out of the way.

>>6380711
>Is fansproject dead in general?

For CHUGs yes. Supposedly they are operating under another moniker making 3P MPs.

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>>6380822
yeah

>>6380892
I'd always assumed they were at least buddies with maketoys? They seemed to be doing pretty similar styles at one point, and I can think of at least one instance of the exact same part on two different toys.

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>>6380437
I really wish everyone would stop making things MP scale. I'm a fan of Voyager size and smaller.

Voyager rarely, deluxe and smaller more. I really wish someone would continue Hybrid Style stuff.

>>6380909
>I really wish someone would continue Hybrid Style stuff.

That's what The Hot soldiers is. They have a Soundave and Ironhide.

>>6380897
i always really liked this seeker design, more than any other cybetronian seeker...and this is just fucking gorgeous.

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Anyone know if this TW Orion axe fits Henkei Prime?

Or in general if there are any good 3P axes that fit Henkei Prime?

>>6379839
Is this the first 3P figure from the Unicron Trilogy?

>>6380920
Kinda in the size but not the detail. Hybrid Style was articulated, had option hands, alternate heads, ect.

I would love a line of 3 - 4" MP Mini Seekers with alternate parts, heads, ect.

>>6380711
>>6380892
for those who dont know fansproject was the name for Maketoys chug company and sort of meh maybe it won't sell/mediocre products so they didn't tank their big name

>>6380970
I'll add in, I know IF and DX9? did two mini seekers, but something more MP like but tiny.

>>6380711
>make headmaster toys that are unironically worse than the official takara ones for double the price
>release four dinobots then do oc donut steal fembots no one actually wants instead of snarl
>make shitty looking dinoforce bots with overpriced shells

yes they're dead

>>6380305
Oh, this guy looks awesome... but knowing that the first run was plagued with problems makes me nervous cause of the price tag.

As for Prime, I just want a cool Prime, I'm not picky on what? I just want something maybe Masterpiece size, but that doesn't look like the G1 style or Movie design since I have those. I just want something a bit more unique, but I don't know where to start looking. I see a ton of 3rd party Primes on BBTS but don't know what if any are good.

Downbeat or coolsville? I just got downbeat in the mail today and he's fucking awesome but the latter is growing on me with the molded details. The head still looks too long though

>>6381002
>shits out terrible, terrible releases every time
>metric fucktons of QC issues in EVERY release, bar none

Yet KFC still lives. Some 3P's just won't tank no matter how much they deserve it.

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Okay, the new guy asking about 3rd Party Primes again. Is Fans Hobby okay for figures? I found one I really want, but I don't wanna make a mistake of $120 buying something that might be bad.

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>>6380830

He's pretty good all around yeah. Only annoyance is how you have to manuver his arm to the side before moving the elbow if his arm cannon is attached because it's so huge.

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>>6381038
Archenemy is fucking awesome, so I don't see why the G2 Prime would be any different. I personally don't think it's worth the $120 asking price solely because of the simplistic transformation. However, it's extremely sturdy and looks great in both modes. If you're a fan of the character, then it's worth it. If you're just looking to impulse buy a figure, I'd look elsewhere.

>>6381051
Oh, there's a previous version of it in Nemesis/Black Convoy colors? I don't mind it having a simple transformation, I really love the G2 Prime design. I'm not looking to buy impulsively, so I'm just asking as many questions as I can.

I just want a cool Prime for my collection, and G2 has always been one of my favorite designs. It was one of the few toys I couldn't ever find as a kid so it's like "the one that got away"

>>6380906
they shared a designer with MT at one time iirc

>>6381055
If that's the case, you definitely won't be disappointed. I've been a huge Scourge fan since RID, and I absolutely love Archenemy despite the simple transformation.

Apparently, Fans Hobby is also going to be releasing an MP scaled G2 Tank Megatron to go along with Prime, so there's that.

>>6381058
Wait really? Oh, then yeah I'm probably gonna buy this Prime if there's gonna be a Tank Megs to pose with him. Thanks, man. Might be my birthday present to myself (Bdays tomorrow)

>>6381066
Glad to be of assistance dude. Also, here's the pic of Fans Hobby teasing G2 Megatron: >>6379946

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>>6381038

Fanshobby has been pretty solid so far. There have been some issues with the line, though. Their Not-Nemesis on some copies had too tight of a mushroom peg on one of the arms, which led to it twisting right off. My Not-Repugnus personally had an issue with it's left arm on the screw that held it to the ratchet.

In my case contacting them on Facebook got a replacement arm sent to me ASAP along with a video on how to change out the arm assembly. I'm definitely a fan of their design style so far, I've got to say, and want to pick up more.

Dammit MMC hurry up and open Alpha preorders already

>>6380897
Oh god I'm cumming

>>6380403
Between this, Gorira, and polynian, I feel like I gotta set up a shelf just for sexy robots.

>>6380897

This looks so fucking good.

>>6380897
Is that a fucking Planet Key in his back?

>>6380217
Good, I won't buy any then.

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>>6380215
>>6380813
Show accuracy instead of toy accuracy.

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>>6381286
>mfw an eternal war has been sparked because Hasbro and Takara could never maintain even the slightest hint of consistency between toy and show colors
>so now not only do people want X as a toy, they want it in Y colors and not Z colors

>>6380897
How does this prove waist articulation. It looks like this pose could be achieved by just using the hips.

>>6380909

I like voyager size too. It's the sweet spot between size and complexity.

>>6381002
If it were Monstructor it would've sold regardless of how shitty it was.

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Friendly reminder that the core bot of Fans Hobby PMOP is the size of MP-10 alone.

Friendly reminder that FH PMOP is going to be combiner huge.

Friendly reminder that the inevitable FH God Bomber is going to be one of the biggest Transforming toys ever made.

>>6379949

my nig

>>6381693
>Friendly reminder that the inevitable FH God Bomber is going to be one of the biggest Transforming toys ever made.

It's going to be nowhere near the size of the 2ft tall behemoths being shat out lately though.

So what are some things specific 3rd party companies are known for?

BadCube: Great poseability, no paint, hour-long transformations
KFC: HANDS
X-Transbots: Great cartoon accuracy, shitty transformations
UniqueToys: long torsos

>>6381928
Master Made: We want the SD/Gokin/Transformers crossover audience
Fans Hobby: PURE BEEF
Cassy Sark: lines, one face, one double hinge joint
Maketoys/Fansproject: We like them shortstacks with the hands that has two fingers slightly extended
i Gear: We thought Cassy Sark was a good idea
MMC: We thought Cassy Sark was a good idea
KFC: We thought Cassy Sark was a good idea

>>6381928
Fanshobby: BEEEEEEEEEEF
Maketoys: Heavily stylized, ridiculously complex, but pure engineering porn and very good quality.
TFC: Good sculpting, weird colour choices, quality varies from really good to absolute shite.

>>6381928

Perfect Effect: Loads of paint, tons of dynamic sculptwork, shitty alt modes and Q/C

Though that seems to be changing.

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>>6381916

This is like 14 or 15" before the God Bomber boots get added. He won't be the size of titans or the 20" combiners but he'll still be fuckhueg.

>>6381928
KFC: Shit everything, and somehow still being alive despite having the absolute worst releases of any 3P outside of Omnigonix.
MMC: Quality, and mold reuse that'd make a Hasbro bean counter jerk himself to completion every night.
IF: Quality, Legends figures, and wasted potential for choosing Dynobots over Dinobots
Fanshobby: THICC
TFC: KFC-lite. May be reforming themselves with the Poseidon release by turning out a product that isn't shit.
Planet X: Hey, remember WFC? That was awesome, right?
Perfect Effects: Good combiner addons, shit tier everything else.

>>6381928
>Maketoys
Ugly overengineered anime shit that people eat up anyway

>MMC
making generic looking molds because they need to retool everything
also they keep hiring cassy sark despite his awful shit

>Fanstoys
MPs that are worse than the official ones but people pretend otherwise

>>6381975
Holy shit, how expensive is this going to be?

>>6382118

I don't know, but their other THICCbots have been a pretty "reasonable" $125 for MP-sized stuff. So I'd guess probably around $180-200.

>>6382107

Fans Toys does a much better job at creating a bot that looks good from all angles than Takara, who is content to make a front focused bot clearly assembled from ten thousand panels from all other angles.

Also they can cover a figure in paint and have it not disintegrate upon contact.

>>6382230
All angles except the face. Worse face sculpts in the game.

>>6382118

He's a bot the size of Carnifex (I think bigger doing some eyeballing with similar sized figures) and much more massive and complex. 200 USD at least.

>>6382234

That hasn't been true since... reflector? WeirdWolf, Galvatron, Sludge, all prototypes shown, and Omega Supreme have extremely sharp sculpts.

Is Striker Noir worth the asking price? Mainly want it for the bot mode and the alt mode seems like a pain in the ass.

>>6382247

Yeah. He's a pretty cool action figure with a bunch of accessories.

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Why no 4p KOed this beast yet? It's still objectively best representation of IDW Nova, original mold had flaws to iron out, like laughable scale and wing clamp, and it still goes used for insane prices.

>>6382252
There was one guy doing a Leader sized version of it. No updates at all though.

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well that's one way to get rid of all those novas that didn't sell. I would have bought that black repaint if the armor wasn't a chromed out piece of shit.

>>6382285

>Shit out terribly outdated figure with a 200 dollar price tag
>surprised it flops

MMC is incredible with their ability to release some of the best figures in the hobby right after shitting out the absolute worst.

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>>6382289
>same company that gave us a damn near perfect DJD, Sixshot, Overlord, Predaking, and others
>also the company that shat out Anubis and like 3 or 4 fucking repaints of it

>>6382289
He is overpriced, but is Seraphicus Prominon even that bad? He's on sale right now and I'm thinking of grabbing him.

>>6382307
The build should be fine. The aesthetics are shit in my opinion.

>>6382298
Okay, unpopular opinion time. I think Hexatron, Feral Rex, and Carnifex look kind of shit due to residual Sarkiness. The parallel lines, generic hands, random spikey parts, and spindly thighs/hips are a turn off for me.
This goes to anything Sark has touched, but those three are just the ones people universally seem to praise.

>>6382381
Only real choices right now are that or >>6382252

And honestly Maketoys' offering is just as dated. Battle Tanker system has plenty of flaws and fragility issues with the trailer's connection to the main body.

>>6382307
His altmode is a shoe, his trailer is rack of partsforming pieces, and that helm looks bad.

>>6382307

Build quality is fine. He's just kinda "kid wearing dad's helmet" levels of super robot that I find personally unaesthetic.

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Anyone else wish that PC-16 could use the titanmaster supplied with Ginrai?

>>6382857
Yeah, actually.

>>6382230
They're also too dumb to use diecast well, make figures that flops all around while transforming, can't sculpt faces and can't into good engineering.

I own some FT figures and they're not bad but faggots like you thinking they're the second coming of the Christ while shitting on everything good Takara's doing are fucking retards.

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>>6382874

You're projecting your own brand loyalty on me. I own several figures from multitude of brands. I can say having observed you autistically screeching about muh takara you've outed yourself as a fragile brand loyalist. FT isn't perfect, but they offer great alternatives to the Masterpiece line that aren't shit looking jigsaw puzzles with flaking paint. If you can deal with the shedding paint and front heavy design then they can make well engineered toys that are very g1 accurate for better or for worse.

>>6382929
>You're projecting your own brand loyalty on me
This is bait.

>>6382857
I'm just wondering how well Godbomber will attach once you get all the PerfectEffect add-ons for Ginrai.

I wouldn't mind getting PC-16 at all.

How's the X2 Toys upgrade kit for CW Ultra Magnus?
I see it adds hand swivels

>>6383153
It's a good kit.

The faceswap head is nice to have, as is the storage compartment for them that doubles as a filler for his back. My only complaint about that is that an entirely new head with more articulation would have been nicer, but I can cope. The thigh-hole fillers are nice too.

The replacement forearms/hands are probably the best part of the kit, the articulation is great to have and it can actually hold things well. The gun it comes with is too heavy though and your UM will probably have trouble holding it up if it has weak shoulder joints. Also the new colored forearms look better in robot mode but kind of weird in vehicle mode, which can be something to consider if you like leaving your CW UM in vehicle mode.

I don't really care much for the ankle/foot upgrades, though. The replacement shins are tacky as fuck and needed to use the new feet, and if you want to use the new feet you'll need to either cut off some plastic panels that fill gaps in the vehicle mode or just remove the stock feet entirely so everything can close together properly


It's definitely worth getting, but if you're only interested in it for the ankles, you should consider that the tacky shins are required to use them and that you'll need to cut plastic to close up his legs properly. I ended up not bothering with the ankle upgrades since the stock feet are decent enough already.

>>6383324
I intended to get that together with the Fansproject white mini-Prime for the ultimate Ultra Magnus experience
I may even get Takara CW UM but I don't know if better paint is worth 20 monies more

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Upscales were a mistake

>>6383406

Is that comparison implying that GRANDU BOSSIU is fucking 5X the size of a leader figure? So like 45"?

That's fucking retarded. There's no way.

>>6382390

I only own carnifex but I will absolutely praise him as an incredible figure. He's just perfect as far as toys go. No shit tolerances, QC issues, great articulation, etc. This obviously doesn't take into account the personal taste aspect of his lankyness into account.

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>>6383406
Why

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>>6383438

muh big muhfugguh

>>6383406
Well now they are just trying out how far they could go with OSes.

>>6383406
LOL WHY

I was hoping for them to KO God Ginrai/Powermaster Prime, but not like this never like this.

>>6383444
Whose arm is that on the left with the sword sheath?

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Anyone own Soul Reaper here? I'm not really one for legends since they usually make a lot of sacrifices in articulation, but this guy looks like he can do any motion.

Anything I should know? Does he really have wrists? Any other Ironfactory recommendations for a poser?

>>6383873
a majority of the iron factory line up is pretty great if its style works for you.
that said the females are an aquired taste

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>>6383876
>that said the females are an aquired taste

They're also tinier than the other Legends characters.

>>6383873
He's probably my second favorite after their Ultra Magnus. He has a lot of character and has great poseability. He does indeed have wrist swivels as well as a waist and ball jointed ankles. His wings can be a bit fiddly tabbing in in jet mode, but once they're in they're secure.

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They're apparently scrapping the LED feature in Terminus' head for painted eyes, as confirmed by the FT rep on TFW.

>>6383406
Maybe they want to see if the base mode could house legends figures.

>>6383416
>>6383438
>>6383578
>>6383723

Yeah I'm pretty sure the image on the lower right there is of how big it is compared to god bomber.

>>6384218
Good. Eyes the only look good for 10 seconds at a time is an awful gimmick.

>>6384316
That's Fort Max not God Bomber lol.

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>>6384333

I've been seeing people say their cynicus basically turned to dust a la GPS, can anybody confirm? I kind of want to pick one up, but if this shit's actually widespread I'm not touching it.

>>6384358
its not like gps (it doesnt deteriorate any further from how it comes) but the plastic they used in the first release is too delicate for the transformation. supposedly the 2nd and 3rd release are fine but I cant remember if we ever got solid confirmation on that
that being said mine is still in one piece and is a 1st run release so I think it varies all over the place

I need some help, how many trailbreakers are there, what are the issues with them, and can I have a comparison shot of each robot and truck? Do any have a faceplate look?

>>6382298
I'm really curious if Tyrantron is good. I really want an idw inspired megs toy, and it ALMOST hits that niche perfectly, but they decided to make him a space/drill jet instead of a tank, but even so I'm really tempted.

>>6384358
My Asterisk release is pretty fine, but I could see the elbows being a fragile point, or a few particular spots during transformation. Considering how lightweight he is, I'm surprised he's even remotely sturdy.

>>6383873
Soul Reaper is great, the other Phase Sixers are awesome as well. Overlord even has an ab crunch. You really can't go wrong with any of their releases. Their earlier ones have some complaints from people but I think they are full of character and still great.

The loadout for their pieces are top notch as well, tons of weapons.

>>6383876
Personally I love their fembots, they have 4 released and they are a lot of fun. Great articulation and loadout too.

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Hmm so I think I was right about this not having a waist swivel BUT that's ok because it looks like there's a swivel just below the chest.

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>>6384970
>that sixshot

do people actually like this shit? that looks unironically worse than the LG-50 official one.

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>>6384970
man he's looking good, just wish we could see it in color already

Im still a bit concerned his eyes are slightly too close together but it might look ok once its got some paint

>>6380711
I've been wanting to know this too. It's a real shame because I wanted them to finish the Headmasters and get Minerva (and hopefully the other Headmaster Jrs.) out as well, but alas, it seems it won't happen now.

I only have the first three Function X figures, unfortunately, because international shipping and exchange rates just fuck me in the ass to get these figures, so it's just not feasible to buy them, but I DO want them.

I never really got the appeal of Fansproject though, personally. I've had a decent amount of their figures and the only ones that ever really impressed me (Steelcore aside, who I'd argue hasn't aged very well) are the Function X Headmasters (which, if rumours are to be believed, is good because friggin' Jizai designed them).

>>6380981
Is this confirmed? I didn't think they were actually the exact same team, just shared some members, as >>6381057 said.

>>6381002
>>make headmaster toys that are unironically worse than the official takara ones for double the price
Are you high? They're fine. Not perfect but they're good toys. Heck, at least their Brainstorm doesn't look like a fucking twig.

...the other points are correct though. Their whole line of Dinobots was just shit, and their Stunticons can go suck a dick.

Nice Dinoforce shells, overpriced as fuck, ugly individual figures, etc.

>>6381037
I'm convinced that KFC is actually run by the same people who run the KFC food chain, because they're both of the same quality (or lack thereof).

>>6381975
Damn, that looks awesome, but I'd rather buy the official God Ginrai set because it'll be cheaper for me. Plus, you know, Headmaster Jrs.

>>6382857
It would be kinda nice, yeah.

Do we know anything about the quality of this figure yet? I haven't really been following it since the announcement. It looks pretty good - I'm just hoping it IS good.

Perfect Effect have made quite good stuff lately, haven't they? I haven't really followed third-party for a few years now.

I do wish they had used pins or pegs for the wheels instead of screws. Third-party stuff seems to use a TON of screws, and it can look really ghastly sometimes.

>>6383406
Just wait until they upscale Fort Max to be in scale with this upscale.

Bonus if we can get it for $5, free shipping.

>>6383902
Are they worth the price though, do you think? I personally dig that aesthetic and would at least like their Arcee, but it's a bit pricey for me to import.

Non-American here: what are the recommended places to get third-party figures so I don't have to pay stupid shipping costs from the US?

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Bobo takes a look at Zeta toys vortex test shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy5exoUtY10

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Are the Perfect Effect Targetmaster "cassettes" any good? I kinda wanna get Rosanna.

>>6382392

Yeah, it's not that great. Feels dated, not especially fun remembering how the pieces go in vehicle mode, etc. I sold mine just because I realized I had no real desire to play with or own it, and I'd rather have the money it goes for.

>>6382390
I had Feral Rex and frankly, whilst I thought they were pretty well-made individual figures, I just didn't like it overall. It was cumbersome, difficult to pose or even move without parts full off or over (the wings, the waist plate, the sword), and it was just... not fun, beyond playing with one or two of the figures when you didn't have the whole set.

All the spikes and sharp parts aren't fun either. Sometimes I think US toy safety standards actually IMPROVE Transformers toys, especially after all my experiences with third-party stuff that goes against those toy safety standards to do "interesting" and "unique" things.

Plus Feral Rex and the Feralcons are just REALLY bulky and don't have great ankles.

Overall, I like how they look but I just haven't been that impressed with most Mastermind stuff. I still want to get Knight Morpher Commander just because of what it is though, but it's kind of hard to get these days, and you really need to make sure you get the second release that's fixed.

>>6382874
This.
>>6383039
And this.

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>>6384979
I wouldn't buy it, but it does have an early 2000's SoC charm to it. The "G1 with articulation" of HasTak's is pure sex though.

>>6384970
I love the way Hot Rod looks here. More "-ation" to Dark Cybertron Era IDW designs would be great. The style kind of went to shit after the new artists started coming on with Windblade. Now, the art seems inconsistent as fuck.

>>6385202
They're okay, but they are rather small and a bit fiddly. QC seemed pretty good regardless, gun modes are tolerable if large.

>>6385095
>it'll be cheaper for me
Not if you plan on buying all the Perfect Effect upgrades

>>6385101
>Are they worth the price
That's up to you. They fill a niche that no one else is providing, but that niche is "one and a half inch tall robo egg tits at $20+"

>>6385274
Eventually, I'd like to, but not immediately. Plus I really want Cab and Minerva's heads as I'm making Headmaster Jr. bodies.

>>6385279
Of course, but I'd love to know what the people who own them on /toy/ actually think about them, compared to other toys their size, other Iron Factory stuff, compared to their larger (official and unofficial) counterparts, etc. I love G1 Arcee (not like that, you sicko) so I'd be keen to get it, but if it's like, say, as exciting as those dumb little Titanmaster vehicles, then I'll avoid it.

>>6385268
>The style kind of went to shit after the new artists started coming on with Windblade. Now, the art seems inconsistent as fuck.
>Windblade
There's your problem.

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>>6385324
I personally have been happy with every Iron Factory purchase I've made and think they're worth the money.

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>>6385332
Their WIndblade is pretty dope too.

>>6385326
>/vp/
>logic
kek.

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>>6385335
And fight!

>>6384979

Is this the time where we pretend a tiny piece of shit mcdonalds toy is better than a solidly built superior adult collectible?

>>6385339
>superior adult collectible

Not that I disagree with your overall point, but I hope you realize lines like that make you sound like a douche.

>>6385335
my only "problem" with windblade is i wish she had wrist swivels, and maybe a waist joint

>>6385381
but for $15 at a con im not complaining

>>6385356

I have a whole folder dedicated to long winded copypaste shitposts about muh superior third party collectibles. It's intentional.

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Black Apple does it again.
Hopefully WeiJiang produces this one too.

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>>6385420

>>6385332
Thanks for the opinion and the photo. I think I'll have to pick it up.

How is the DX-9 Arcee in comparison? Anyone know? I think I prefer the Iron Factory aesthetic but again, I wouldn't be against getting both.

>>6385336
This is apparently what happens when your internet shits itself.

>>6385381
Still better (and cuter) than Hasbro's mess.

>>6385420
Forgive my ignorance but who is Black Apple?

That's gorgeous though. I was really hoping for a superior TLK Barricade. After seeing the movie yesterday, I really wanted a Barricade but that Deluxe they made is just awful.

>>6385434
Part of me wants to get my dick out right about now.

>>6385432
He's the guy who did the AOE Hound and Evasion Optimus Prime redesigns for WeiJiang.

>>6385439
OH okay, very nice. Thanks anon.

>>6385430
>>6385433
>>6385434
Does no one else think the vehicle mode and his back in robot mode look worse? I feel like they look worse than the deluxe one. I'll probably get it anyway because Im a slut for Barricades but it looks more jumbled I think.

>>6385811
Probably just due to being in hand-scratch custom phase.

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>>6385439
Why couldn't he do the new Alcee? Partsforming is the absolute worst alteration to a figure that can be customized to have it fold up better with more articulation.

>>6385104

It would help to know what country you are in.

>>6385811

The backpack is more condensed instead of being the entire top of the car and the headflap was removed. I don't see how it is worse.

>>6385863
It's like the proportions of things are off on it, all the details on it are oversized and gaudy. I agree the head flap being gone is great but as for the backpack, it looks wider than the deluxe version and its sticking further out behind now. We traded it sticking out further to the back and sides so that it doesn't hang down as much.

Is there anything wrong with KFC Blitzwing? He looks fun, way better tank mode than the other 3rd party Blitzwing and roughly equivalent tank and robot modes

>>6386103

KFC blitzwing is garbage. He has a very hard time standing due to weak hip ratchets and back heavy blitzwing design.

>>6386111
They shipped out replacement parts though fixing it. My problem with him is his leg articulation sucks due there not being enough room for the thighs to move.

>>6386111
>>6386121
Do current models require you to replace the stuff? Seems pretty bad that this stuff gets through quality control, if customers can find this stuff in a couple of hours playing with something you'd think the makers would catch it.

>>6386130
Yeah you have to replace them on current models AFAIK. Its not too hard to do.

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Which Rodimus is this? It's the MMC one right?

>>6385385

Maybe you should focus less on being an insufferable faggot and more on talking about toys, it might be better for everyone involved. And speaking of toys, I can't decide which 3P figure to get next. Was thinking of FH's Not-Doublecross, anyone here have him?

>>6386174

Yes.

>>6386184
Its weird I wasnt crazy about it before and preferred the SXS one but it looks pretty good there.

>>6386188
The autobot sticker does wonders for him.

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I've never owned a PMOP and roght now this is the mold that's doing the most for me in terms of size, detail and articulation. I'm unsure which color scheme to get it in since I already have Striker Manus. Yet I think I'd like to wait and see if they do a G2 Prime in nemesis colors AKA Scourge.

>>6385420
I hope so because fuck Hasbro with that random beige shit

>>6386334

Unique toys looks like a fucking work of art compared to fat tits blackout ovee there.

>>6386235

He's a bit too anime and small for me. I'll wait until ThiccHobby releases their behemoth this fall.

>>6386334

The combined mode must be fucking huge. That's way too big. Give me voyager sized limbs at best.

I didn't get an answer before, but are their any fixes for the hips on CW Bruticus? The only one I found is that $50 kit that's A) mostly for UW Bruticus and B) requires me to physically break onslaught for it to work.

Does anyone have a Fansproject Razorspike and Megazero for sale? I bought the other 3 Retro Future figures form a hobby store and i can't seem to find any retailers or even Ebay selling the ones i need to finish the set

>>6386369
>but are their any fixes for the hips on CW Bruticus?

Not really, even the upgrade kits aren't that good. If you want CW Bruticus as your Bruticus you should probably just come to terms with the fact that articulating his hips in pretty much anyway will ruin the illusion that the torso has functional proportions.

>>6386221
honestly it wasnt till i saw that sticker that i was considering him

>>6386542

Different anon, but I think I'm going to wait on SXS hotflame before making a decision.

>>6386383
Damn. I thought so. Well, hopefully someone makes a great Bruticus at some point.

These two new ones coming out don't seem that great so far, but since combined mode is the whole point for me we'll see.

>>6386560
If you're looking at something just to "be a Bruticus" there is still IF doing an IDW take, but of course it's in their Legends-scale size. Unfortunately no colored images of it have been released yet.

Are there any 3rd party options to neaten up MP Ultra Magnus' infamous buttflap? I just got the figure and the flap is driving me nuts to no end...

>>6386181

Nah. It's fucking great mining salt from poorfag Officalcucks. Nothing is better than getting some fresh (You)'s from subhumans with tiny budgets salivating over great stuff they can't have. I don't even give a shit, it takes 4 seconds to macro it in and cause butthurt.

>It's j-just as good!

XD

Doublecross is great, btw. FH is my favorite new company.

Is that Ratchet/Ironhide mold from TFC ("Old Soldiers" series) worth $40 or is there something horribly wrong with it? Cuz they look like they'd be nice for my CHUG collection

So I got the YM R-01 Data Clerk, the KO Cupola, and his ankles are pretty loose, but everything else is fine. I also have a friend who has some replacement parts for the ankles for cupola. Will they work on the KO to tighten them up? Or should I just swab some future in the ball joints?

>>6386865
I have him as well, and ordered the replacement parts direct from Maketoys (just for the cost of $6 shipping). They work entirely perfectly to fix his feet, so if you have a friend that already has a set, by all means use them.

I'm looking forward to Stubborn Buffet later in the summer.

>>6386880
I'm looking forward to stubborn buffet too. I kinda hope they KO the fanstoys stuff as well, because Lupis is not worth is price tag at all for how simple he is. I also hope YM will make some OC figures for Highbrow and Brainstorm... but I doubt it.

Glad to know the parts work. I was kinda hesitant because my ankles on mine really only seem loose in dynamic poses, but I'll swap them. How much better are they on yours now?

>>6386889
Night and day difference. Now I haven't exactly set about to "dynamicize" him yet, but as soon as you get one foot set you can immediately see the change.

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>>6386174
Showdown of the year for me, both have pros and cons,I can't wait for side by side. After seeing this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ7B-6rhmhY
and how the plastic red just glows and oozes together, I'm really curious how SXS breaks up the colors.

I think SXS has an acceptable head, but not perfect

>>6386901
Im getting the SXS one I think but I know what you mean about them both having pros and cons. As for the heads, the MMC one is too fat and looks slightly like a too soft sculpt and the SXS one looks too skinny.

>>6386908
at least both have shit vehicle modes. MMC is more coherent, but meh. What sells me on SXS looks is the chest pops out, the arms has a cruvy pop, and those feet are comic big and clunky.

But I'm unfamiliar with SXS and I know MMC has great quality (Carnifex is an all time favorite of mine, I'll never sell it)

>>6386920
>I know MMC has great quality
Honestly they've been a bit hit or miss lately but the Rodimus will probably at least ok, we do know their plastic is always good. I wish we knew that much about SXS but oh well, I'm willing to take a chance.

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>>6386923
Just looked up what they've done, this Blur was good from everything I saw, he just fit an aesthetic no one cared for

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>>6386927
I think Blurs IDW design changed and it kind of fucked the release of this one. He had the back turbines

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>>6386923
I remember seeing this release years ago, but the Classics market kind of died because the MP scale

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Those fucking hands look bad.

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>>6386930
Love the back

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>>6386930
The hands do seem a little too small but I don't mind how they look otherwise.
>>6386931
>that waist
>that clean back
>no ugly as fuck kibble hanging off everywhere

Although I am wondering where the roof of the car is now, guess it really is going to partsform.

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Look at this handsome devil

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>>6386950
IF SS dump:

>>6386950

>A whole shelf dedicated to midgets

The smallest thing on my shelf is six inches. These legends are cute.

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>>6386952

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>>6386955
I really like the pose able back wings

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>>6386957
Meh vehicle, IF never does great vehicles

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>>6386959

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>>6386901
Real flat tits

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>>6386955
I surprisingly want both

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>>6386962

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>>6386966

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>>6386962
its like his head is peaking over from behind his shoulder to make sure it's safe to come out

>>6386964
wait holy shit theres two versions?

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>>6386967
He looks acceptable, but not great.

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>>6386973
From another angle you would see his shoulder yanked out and about an inch from his torso

>>6386174
>>6386966
>everyone using that Manga Mech Tailgate in their photos
>it looks so much more comic accurate than the Rodimi that its making them look like shit

I wish the Manga Mech series had been more successful.

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>>6386971
Ones DX9, they have a very G1 Legends line, while Iron Factory has a very IDW Legends line.

Both great, the only bummer for me is the hand sizes are different

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>>6386974
His 2 heads look almost the exact same

>>6386973
>those huge flat panels on his forearms to cover them in vehicle mode
>>6386974
>that arm
>that head placement

MMC what the hell are you doing.

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>>6386978

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>>6386980

>>6386964
>>6386976
You're right, I want both too.

>>6386962
I can't believe people are still buying MMC stuff. All their designs look like complete shit. Same about ToyWorld.

>>6386920
I think the vehicle modes are pretty decent representations. Not sure I really get the hate for them.

>>6386901
SXS might just be the winner for me.

I normally like MMC stuff but the proportions on theirs are just awkward with his big chest and thick legs, which also look super square in silhouette. I also think they botched the chest big time with how flat it is. It's also super fucking busy, even for your usual overly-greebled third party affair. SXS just looks a lot cleaner, better proportions, and feels more dynamic, plus the chest isn't an awkward flat slab.

The only thing MMC's offering does better is the alt mode since SXS's looks like absolute garbage but to be entirely fair, both offerings look stupid in alt mode and it's largely the fault of his MTMTE alt mode being a hot mess in the first place. MMC's just does a better job of recreating that alt mode in plastic but it doesn't mean a whole lot when the alt mode was stupid to begin with.

>>6386901
SXS looks like Hot Rod literally jumped out of the comic. MMC just looks like a cheap imitation of Hot Rod. I don't care about alt modes because it's all cybertronian made up trash.

>>6387063
>cybertronian made up trash

KEK why is this everyone's hated feature of IDW bots? Wing looks great in both modes but people still hate his 'cybertronion' alt form because it doesn't resemble anything. Does everything have to be earth-based?

>>6386369
>mostly for UW Bruticus
I just bought the CW version they released on robotkingdom a last week

>>6387063
Neither look like Hot Rod, but that's more the fault of the comic designs than the figure.

>>6386949
>guess it really is going to partsform
There should be plenty of space in the chest, but I wouldn't be surprised if you're right

>>6386962
>no tits
>no ass
L O W T E S T
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>>6386975
i wish they could of done a full cyclonus figure

>>6387252
The SXS one is pretty close dude.

>>6387317
Yeah I was holding out for that too, such a shame.

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>>6387317

>No good IDW cyclonus figures
>The one MP cyclonus is made by XTransbuttsex
>FansToys has softly announced plans for a scourge and cyclonus years ago but never followed up
>No MakeToys one in sight

>>6387077
I love that people hated on MTMTE for the bots never transforming, and then when they did they had stupid ass modes and got even or hate

>>6387483
Theres the MMC one but its a steaming pile of shit too.

While were on this Im buttmad we'll never get a mtmte Whirl either. Little fucker would be amazing for taking goofy pics with.

>>6387594
Because they all had cybertronian modes and that triggers all the "they never transform!" autists even more.

>>6386174

Eh. Might look cool in more traditional Rodimus colors.

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>>6387603

>Someone thought mcdonalds yellow was a good color choice

>>6387604
LazyAza at TFW is the guy choosing the colours for MMC now and he's more than happy to let everyone know constantly.

>>6387608
I thought he just did the digital colors

>>6386954
They really are.

>>6386929
I believe it may have had some QC issues and was typically regarded as an average figure... which is a shame, because it looks quite good.

>>6386604
Sidecutters.

>>6386656
And this, people, is why our fan base is toxic these days. People like this.

>>6386724
It's TFC. The only thing it's worth is throwing it in the trash.

>>6385834
New Zealand, so basically pretend I'm a filthy Australian.

>>6385823
Agreed. I was excited when I saw a Wei Jiang Arcee... until I saw they just partsform it. It seems really lazy. Apparently you can leave the parts attached but still...

>>6387608
What a prick. I hate some of these obnoxious guys working for third-parties.

Still, at least it's not TFC's guy who puts red on fucking EVERYTHING, even when it doesn't belong.

>>6386959
Unfortunately yeah, that does seem to be the case. Still awesome-looking little figures.

Speaking of IF (and DX-9, since it came up), how's DX-9's Leah (Arcee), how impossibly difficult is it to get Iron Factory's Elita-1, and is the IF Windblade sold out for good?

>>6387663
KOs are okay, by the way (though I haven't found any apart from, as far as I can tell, the Mech Fans Toys Pocket War stuff which is fairly limited in range).

>>6386974
>From another angle you would see his shoulder yanked out and about an inch from his torso
There's a whole lotabout him that feels slightly off, but those shoulders are straight up horrible. I know MMC struggles with shoulders sometimes, but I honestly don't know what they were thinking with these.

>>6386975
I'd have loved for them to do a pipes, but he was always pretty minor and died way too early.

>>6387598
I like IDW Whirl's design, but I have my doubts that it could work as an actual, three-dimensional object, much less transform.

>>6387802
People have made scratch built Whirls that looked pretty good and transformed. Im sure if one of the better 3rd parties gave it a shot they could do it but I think they're worried about it selling.

>>6387802
>I like IDW Whirl's design, but I have my doubts that it could work as an actual, three-dimensional object, much less transform.
You know, it could work as a papercraft of some kind

>>6387809
If you're talking about that shapeways kit, yeah it looked alright, but also like it was made of toothpicks and was about to break if you looked at it funny. I'd bet money that MMC's was so off model because doing a 1:1 version of it was too fragile. I'd love for someone to prove me wrong, but I don't think it could work.

>>6385381
I think my her short comings are because she was their first legends. If she was released today she'd be different.

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I hate 3rd party because like, beautiful, better than Toyworld

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>>6387883
(oops this is Toyworld, "better than Fanstoys)

but then eww, I'm glad I went Fanstoys

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Swap these modes and that would be my display

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>go check my ROTF Bludgeon to see if the threads are already leaking plasticizer
>they were glued all along???
>whatever glue Hasbro used slightly melted the plastic around them
Should I look for ways to improve and prevent the inevitable death of my ROTF Bludgeon or just chuck it into the "get Susanoo already you poorfag shit" fund?
I guess I could still change the dumb-looking head in Susanoo and learn to live with the fat thighs, the only issues I have with it.

>>6387815
No there was one that actually transformed and the guy was using gunpla stuff for the joints and sintra? for the panels. No idea how you do that from just a pile of parts but it was pretty impressive, I'm having trouble finding the pictures now however.

Another ebay flash sale, get on it faggots.

>>6388115
>US-only though

>>6387914
Hasbro didn't use glue. That's the plasticizer fucking things up chemically.

Anyone gonna make a new thread?

Are there any good G1 Slag figures? The FP Slag is kinda shit.

Also, I tried putting on the fixed thigh clips for FT Soar, but one of them the hole for the pin is just slightly too small. REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6388160
How does this plasticizer thing work? The threads are stil fine, it's only the normal plastic parts in contact with the rubber that are a little warped.

>>6388324
More rubbery plastics or ones that are poor quality start to break down after awhile. Plasticizer is the stuff that bonds the plastic together and keeps it flexible and resilient; when it starts to break down the plastic becomes less flexible and crumbles or if it's rubbery will shrink down and fall apart.
The especially bad thing is plasticizer leaking from one thing can ruin other plastics that are too close to it like on your figure. If you remove the bad parts it will help but the damage will already be done to any warped areas. If you love the figure go ahead and remove those pieces so it won't eat up the rest of it.

And as a note to those not familiar with this, you can tell when a toy is beginning to leak plasticizers because it will feel sticky to the touch even if you wash it. If its in a display case you'll notice a hazy fog on the glass around it. Some figures also smell like ammonia but that varies from plastic type to plastic type.

Ebay
Psummer15
$15 off $75
Just got raging bull for $65 shipped.

>>6388401
>you can tell when a toy is beginning to leak plasticizers because it will feel sticky to the touch even if you wash it
Mine is totally dry, though; that's why I have no idea if the warping is new or was there from the beginning, I never checked.

>>6388401
I bought a used Animated Soundwave and his roof was like this. I was real pissed the guy sent me a nasty figure, now I know what was wrong. The doorwings on my Classics Silverstreak did this as well

>>6388534
>Mine is totally dry, though
It's hard to tell without actually seeing it in person but try and move the treads around, it sounds like its already leaked a good deal of plasticizer and is at the crumbly/fragile stage. If it's still flexible and seems otherwise normal I would think it's probably ok but keep an eye on it.

>>6388549
I bought a lot of older Star Wars figures and a few of them were so sticky I had to just throw them out, was pretty bummed but it can't be helped.

>>6388275
>new thread
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>>6388556
>>6388556
>>6388556
fine

>>6387883
>>6387886
What the fuck are you trying to say? FansToys didn't make an MP Jazz, only ToyWorld and MakeToys did. The former, which is the one in your pic, looks like utter shit. The MakeToys one on the other hand is one of the best looking 3P figure ever.