Transformers General: That's Not Ironhide Edition

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Never saw an in store swap before

I'd like to think the stores around me are a bit wiser to that

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Posting the entire UW-EX story since it's finally over.

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>>6040627
I only wish they'd use the Japanese names since shit gets confusing in the Baldigus chapter.

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>>6040631

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>>6040638

From the wiki:

-Galvatron was sealed in ice in the Headmasters episode "The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg" (his plans for Grand Galvatron were also revealed in that episode). He'll eventually be permanently freed from the iceberg in the Return of Convoy story pages.

-By 2021, Unicron's head has been moved to the Triple Z Point, where it is located in the Beast Wars Neo cartoon (as seen in the episode "Fight! Maximals"). This is in agreement with the previous TakaraTomy timeline that established Unicron's head being sealed there in 2010.

-Unicron is depicted as still having the eyes of Metroplex and Trypticon that were given to him in "Ghost in the Machine".

-Prime Breakdown (or in Japanese parlance, War Breakdown) was killed in the Prime episode "Crossfire". His corpse was repurposed as a new cyborg body for Silas in "The Human Factor" before being turned into a new type of Terrorcon zombie in "Thirst" (which did not air in Japan), in which Silas/Breakdown was finally killed. The absence of Silas from Breakdown's bio indicates that Silas has not remained alive to also be summoned by Unicron.

-Armada/Micron Densetsu Thrust was abandoned to die (for being a traitor) in the Armada episode "Union".

-Unicron only restores Starscream's body halfway, citing his betrayal in the episode "Ghost in the Machine" as the reason for his distrust.

-Unicron's desire to turn Cybertron into his new body likewise originates from "Ghost in the Machine", but he'll eventually achieve that goal (albeit momentarily) in the Beast Wars Neo episode "The Final Battle".

-Previously, Cybertron in the Japanese cartoon continuity was indicated to not have been restored until after 2036 in the G-2 story pages, something affirmed in the cartoon timeline included with Kiss Players, which Hayato Sakamoto contributed to. Unite Warriors now appears to be retconning Cybertron to already have been rebuilt by 2021.

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>>6040641

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>>6040588

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>>6040647

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>>6040648

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Where can I get this toy?

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>tfw no CW Raiden
>tfw no 3rd party Raiden
>tfw no one cares about the most asperger combiner in existence

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>>6040656
Sucks he didn't come out over here and be cemented with the other G1 combiners.

He really is the only "rival" for devastator.

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>>6040657
Some crazy dude made a custom out of a few CW molds.

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So much better than AoE packaging.TLK is going to be epic and have a good toy line.
Where's that crying frog picture?

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>>6040656
Got you covered, senpai.

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>>6040658
I think he's called Devastators rival, but I don't remember if he ever fought him in Headmasters. Raiden mostly fought Predaking since Sky-Lynx was absent (which I'm currently posting the in fiction story for his disappearance).

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>tfw no Titans Return Nightbeat that could be repainted into a proper Minerva
>tfw, even if there's a Titans Return Nightbeat, the alt mode probably isn't going to try resembling a Porsche 959 lookalike

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>>6040664
Shit, was meant to post this from the wiki on the Lynx Master chapter.

-The first page takes place during "Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2".

-Ratchet being alive is kind of necessary to accompany the Unite Warriors Lynxmaster toy, but he died in 2005 during The Movie, and how he came back to life by 2011 has yet to be explained. (Btw, we don't know how Ironhide came back either, but we do know how Prowl, and Wheeljack "came back to life").

-Optimus Prime's dead body has been configured into its Unite Warriors design despite it not appearing this way in his resurrection for the The Battlestars story pages. This would be justified in the next chapter.

-Ratchet is working on Optimus's body in the Oracle chamber from the Beast Machines cartoon.

-Vector Sigma acquires its design previously seen in "Train Wars", a gold-colored "virtual redeco" of the Eggbot mold.

-Vector Sigma communicates with Sky Lynx using yellow rings, a fitting callback to "Call of the Primitives", where its previous form, the Oracle, communicated with Sky Lynx and the other Primitives in this way.

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>>6040665
>>6040666
Japan's making her eventually, since Hasbro would never make a Minerva.

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>>6040669

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>>6040669
Though, what if we never get a CW Nightbeat?

Thanks for the comic dump, by the way.

>>6040658
Well Devastator already had Omega Supreme.

Even though it could have been another team vs team thing I guess they didn't feel like writing a second rival to the coonstructicons

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>>6040669
>Hasbro would never make a Minerva.
So weird that Nitro Convoy was a guy while Override was a lady.

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>>6040672
And now the only part most of the Tranformers fandom will remember for years to come.

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>>6040679
>>6040674
Sure, and rumor was that we might get a deluxe Nightbeat (would make sense since the head of the TM version is completely different to the head everyone knows and loves).

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>>6040683

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>>6040686

>>6040679
>fires a literal boner-ray and then licks the juice off

Still best comic ever.

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>>6040689
From the wiki again:

-Megaempress notes that Shockwave's current whereabouts are unknown, referring to his disappearance from the cartoon after The Transformers: The Movie. The concurrently published Legends comics do feature Shockwave traveling to the Legends Universe, but it's currently unknown if that Shockwave is from this time period. (Characters who jump into the Legends universe seem to arrive and leave at their own time periods, while events in the Legends universe keep going at their own pace, regardless of the standard Transformers universe).

-Lunaclub refers to Starscream's ability to possess other Transformers as a ghost.
Optimus Prime's return is only temporary since he has to be dead again in time for Return of Convoy.

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>>6040694
Kind of disappointing Optimus didn't get his own UW chapter, even if he did get released before Grand Galvatron.

This is from the dudes that translated this part:

-English names and dub attack callouts used again.

-Grand Scourge’s combined mode is named “Scourge Grand Prime” in the original Japanese, to match “Convoy Grand Prime”, I’ve used “Grand Scourge Maximus” to retain symmetry with “Optimus Maximus”.

-Galvatron II’s early adventures in the Japanese G1 universe, before travelling back in time, were in the post-G2 era, where he fought e-HOBBY Laser Ultra Magnus. His adventures in the ’80s are from the TV Magazine story pages.

-When Galvatron II discusses Trypticon, in the original Japanese he says he commanded “Dino-saurer [Dainozaurā], the earliest version of Dinosaurer [Dainazaurā]”. Sakamoto is being a massive nerd: the former version of the name was used in the Scramble City OVA, where Trypticon also had a different character model, so the idea is that Trypticon was renamed when he was rebuilt in Five Faces of Darkness.

-The “heart” at the end is the Zodiac, which would indeed eventually revive Optimus as Star Convoy.

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>>6040626
>I am being mocked? Cause it feels like I'm being mocked.

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>>6040704

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>>6040707

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>>6040709
>Technobots get new toys in Japan
>First in fiction appearance with the new bodies has them getting their asses kicked in a single panel.

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>>6040714

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>>6040716
I can only imagine this scene with Bruticus. He'd be too stupid to notice he's being duped.

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>>6040717
He got tricked by that sticker on Grand Scourge's shoulder.

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>>6040719
Somehow, making Galvatron II's backstory even more confusing, and makes him look like a joke.

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>>6040721
>>6040723
It's not like he knew there were several black dudes that look just like Optimus. Anyway, Bruticus wouldn't even know what's happening when the time phenomenon starts, or notice Scourge wasn't being affected.

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>>6040725

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>>6040679
this is scary as hell but extremely hot.

i want to be dominated by deceptifemmes.

>>6040719
So are they from the RID2000 universe or the Car Robots universe? Or it doesn't matter and the names are just loosely applied?

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>>6040729
>>6040728
Don't worry, apparently Seibertron makes combiner dicks in bulk.
>>6040730
Car Robots. Names aren't really important, but it can lead to confusion since Car Robots happens during the events of G1, and the characters are all from G1's future.

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>>6040730
The comic is using the names Black Convoy, Baldigus and Grand Scourge. All names are japanese in origin, even Grand Scourge.

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>>6040734
Apparently, you're still a combiner even if it's just one limb.

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>>6040734
Only reason I ask is because Devil Gigatron is OP as fuck and it'd be nice to have him reappear, but the name change to Galvatron for RID could make him awkward to reuse.

>>6040662
Ew

>>6040662
I actually have that and their 6th. Surprisingly I never took a picture of their clusterfuck mode before chugging them into their boxes and into my closet.

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>>6040737
>>6040737
Get ready for Galvatron III

And stuff from the wiki

-Though never really touched on in the cartoon, the Dimensional Patrol being from the future was mentioned in an early Car Robots catalog.

-The Combatrons were last seen being taken to prison/trial by Brave Maximus in the Car Robots finale "Final Battle! Fire Convoy".
Their evil reprogramming at the command of Gigatron from "Foe? Friend!? Black Convoy" is recreated in the expository flashbacks.

-Black Convoy has already escaped custody, as previously revealed in his Legends pack-in comic, in which he was also reunited with Gelshark.

-Unicron's offer of coffee milk seems random, but Baldigus's original Car Robots bio card mentions his fondness of the stuff.

-Prowl remembers the Transformers on Earth falling into the atmosphere at the end of the The Battle of the Star Gate manga. This event was retconned by the 2007 Japanese Generation 1 timeline to serve as an explanation for their absence during Car Robots.

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>>6040743
-Unicron tried to have Starscream turn Cybertron into his new body in "Ghost in the Machine".

-The "erasing from history" effect seen in this chapter is identical to the swirly blue lines seen in "The Agenda (Part III)" and "Optimal Situation".

-Galvatron II hails from the story pages for the original cartoon, which depicted a toy-colored Galvatron as the Decepticon City Commander and not as a reborn Megatron. This Galvatron would later be retconned into a separate character by an e-HOBBY toy, and indeed, the Galvatron featured in Unite Warriors has also been toy-colored all along.

-Grand Scourge is revealed to be a servant of Unicron, not an illogical connection for a Matrix Hunter. Whether this means that he is indeed the same individual as Armada Nemesis Prime, also Unicron-aligned and known in Japanese as "Scourge", remains ambiguous.

-Vector Sigma mentions Sky Lynx helping him in the battle with Tornedron in "Call of the Primitives"—in Japan, the Oracle from that episode was retconned into being the past form of Vector Sigma.

-Unicron swears that Cybertron will be his someday, which will come to pass in Beast Wars Neo.

-Optimus Prime will be revived by a new power source, the Zodiac, in The Battlestars. Unfortunately Roller won't do his job very well, as these stories also feature Prime's body being stolen by Dark Nova.

-Galvatron II notes that he became the City Commander of "Dino-saurer" (ダイノザウラー Dainozaurā), the first version of Dinosaurer (ダイナザウラー Dainazaurā). Trypticon was referred to using the former in "Scramble City: Mobilization"; this retcon explains away the aberrant spelling and the different character model used by the OVA.

And can you spot the Chip Chase cameo on the last page?

That's it, the end of the Unite Warriors story. But one day, that story may continue. UNITE!

>>6040743
i want to have a bubblebath with the femmes.

>>6040745
>That's it, the end of the Unite Warriors story.

It's better than IDW's trash.

>>6040587
What bootleg MP-10 is that?

>>6040748
FunPub's BWU prose is surprisingly good too.

>>6040748
You'll get the Ruination team in a Hot Spring, and like it.

>>6040750
Shame they had to give the stories those fucking awful names.

>>6040745
Who are those transformers at the back of the top left panel?

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>>6040757
Which one are you talking about? That panel contains artwork that are packed with various UW releases.

>>6040669
>Japan's making her eventually
Just like Squeezeplay, Siren and Horri-bull, amirite? And UW Liokaiser.

>>6040762
Sorry, meant top right panel.

>>6040763
They probably want to wait for Hasbro to make those, they'll never make a Minerva. I'm actually glad they won't make Leokaiser right now since they might just make one with entirely new molds later down the line.

>>6040745
The story is quite cohesive for something that's supposed to string together a bunch of seemingly random toy releases.

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>>6040749

KBB MP10-V. A large-ish Voyager MP10.

>>6040653
BBCS

Just ordered Legends Arcee from Mandarake as an Xmas present to myself. Anything I should know about her before she arrives?

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>>6040821

She's a really good figure no matter which version you get.

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>>6040821
She doesn't hold her guns very well though as a result of a running change in her mold to make her hands look better. As far as I'm aware all copies of the LG version have this change. It's a bit disappointing but not a deal breaker by any stretch.

Otherwise a great and solid figure, with a ton of articulation, poseability and expression. She's by far one of the best generation deluxes.

Also I found her weapon storage to be pretty hard to figure out. Both of her guns fit discreetly on the underside of the back of her vehicle mode. No good place to put the swords though unfortunately.

>>6040821
Legends Arcee's hands are rectangular and have a ridge at the bottom preventing the handles from going all the way through. This was present on early batches of Hasbro Arcee as well. Some collectors opted to trim the ridge away.

Later batches of Hasbro Arcee had a running change to round 5mm hands, notably that SDCC exclusive 3-pack one that holds that fuckhuge sword.

>>6040778
He seems a bit orange-ish from the pictures you post, Is he redder in person?

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>>6040841

Yeah, he's red. Thats just my lighting/camera fucking everything up as usual.

>>6040653

The takara release is less smug.

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>>6040653

Action Cats® when ?

>>6040834
>Both of her guns fit discreetly on the underside of the back of her vehicle mode.

In vehicle mode or robot mode? cause I've had no luck storing them in robot mode.

>>6040852
Most are.

>>6040863
yeah vehicle mode

no where else to put them in robot mode aside from her hips

Just got a Brainstorm from walgreens at 40% off
feelsgoodman

>>6040872
Really? Did they have a special?

>>6040874
Its on sale I guess.

>>6040745

Good Lord. It's like "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen".

>>6040745
>And can you spot the Chip Chase cameo on the last page?

No way he's i-

>There's a guy in a wheelchair on the top right panel.

>>6040730
Car Robots is part of G1 in Japan

>>6040930
Hey that movie was good.

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>>6040991
no its fucking not it was a whole new series in japan until kiss chasers tried to retcon it and it sickens me

>>6041041
That's a good thing, anon. It means they'll keep getting new toys since they're part of G1.

>>6041041
There where hints at it being part of their timeline before. Fire Convoy's whole Matrix is patterned after the Energon Matrix Lio Convoy, Big Convoy, and the Japanese version of BW Optimus had. The Destrongers are implied to be Predacons from the future. The whole series takes place within a continuity deadzone where it doesn't really contradict anything. The fact that all the characters(in the JP version, anyway) are new characters instead of reinterpretations hints at it being part of the series rather than a reboot.

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I think I hate the CW First Aid mold

In arm-mode I find there's no good place to put his arms. No matter what you do they just stick out like sore thumbs. I'd just pop them out of the socket entirely but then I'd have fucking loose First Aid arms lying around that I don't want to lose.

If it weren't for muh geewun he'd be a leg by now and I'd just leave it at that but nooo, I have to be spending hours at a time trying to figure out some more compact way of folding his arms in.

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I'm confused about Galvatron II's chronology, the one from the us comics can't be the same one seen in the japanese fiction (like in the UW comics) because he dies twice, once in regeneration one, and during scramble city in the japanese continuity, also's the issue of how the US comic one would enter the JP timeline, it'd be easier to consider it a alternate version ( despite them apparently being the same guy.

>>6041056
Use him as a leg already. Streetwise's flipped-down car front make one hell of an ugly knee.

>>6041065
It can be. He's from one of the streams, and he was never really killed, he just into an icy lake or something. They can have him be the one from the G2 comics since he never showed up in them, while the Regeneration version was killed. He could also be from another time and place. In the end it doesn't matter since they still haven't filled in the gaps for his appearances.

Did he arrive at the future after G2, then go to the past? Did he go to the future, then past, die, then get revived during G2?

>>6041102
>he just into an icy lake or something
speaking of that, how was that supposed to have killed the original Galvatron in Headmasters, always been confused about that(since Japanese media seems to be pretty consistent about Galvatron being dead from that until he was resurrected as Super Megatron during Battlestars)

>>6041186
Ice is his Kryptonite? It's possible the ice froze and he was too damaged to break out of it, do he died.

While it's believeable that it would kill him, it's increadibly retarded when you remember he was right next to the bombs that destroyed Cybertron.

>>6041065
Regeneration One would be separate from JPG1, the same way Rebirth is separate from The Headmasters.

>>6040750
Go back to the Allspark

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>>6040662

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>>6041247
Astroforce! Form of: wall!

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I actually bought it, because I didn't have a Generations Scourge

but then I discovered he had two right hands.

>>6041268
You mean you didn't notice that the red fingernails were asymmetrical?

You sort of deserve it desu.

>>6041282
lol...wait. what? did they paint it to look like a head?

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>>6041258

You should put FortMax into one of the fanmodes. He looks so much better than the "spread eagle and waiting for the roboner" modes.

>>6041258

Is it possible to put the two trains together ala have the bottom's face each to combine symmetrical docking style?

>>6041307
Yep, they actually put in the effort to paint it to look like the head.

Probably some dude trying to make a custom Blast Off or something.

>>6041315
No, because a): that's retarded and b): the center wheel makes them incompatible.

>>6040661
Ooh, that actually looks cool

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>>6041315
Short answer is almost
The middle wheel in the torso stops it
You have to remove that first then yes it's possiable to dock as you dream

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i have tr sixshot

ama, i'll answer questions and do a sort-of-review as i go along

>>6041331

How are his joints, any looseness?

Anything stressed/too tight?

>>6041331
How well does he pose? Do you think he's worh the 46-49 he costs?

>>6041331
do his ankles tilt

how much foot articulation is there

>>6041331
Can you put it in better lighting? As it stands we are not getting a clear view of it.
Also if you have any other TRs show us some of the good/awful combos you can get with that helmet.

>>6041331
that's fast, philipines?

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>>6040662
>>6040741
He's a big train nigga.
He'll run a train on all yo girls..At once.

>>6041348
Why would you bring that out in public?

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>>6041339
joints are all fine, QC on him is surprisingly good. only issue i had was the two front cockpit pieces not liking to tab together but some glue/future fixes that easily.

>>6041341
This is my main issue with him: he looks gr8 but his articulation is dick. His elbows don't even go 90 degrees unless you extend the arm (which is for transformation) and that makes it a bit wobbly due to the nature of the telescopic extension.

Pic related is as far as the arm goes without extending.

>>6041342
Yes, but the design for them is really stupid. Will post pics after this post.

>>6041343
Sorry, my lighting sucks. Will try to improve it.

>>6041347
Nope, Taiwan. There was a toy fair last weekend that happened to have all of TR Wave 3 save the deluxes so I picked this guy up.

>>6041331
Does he have wrists? Can he transform with his headmaster in his helmet? Do his shoulders or skirts hurt his articulation?

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>>6041342
>>6041352
Now for the ankle tilt: Yes, it exists, but here's the problem: whoever designed this placed it on a fucking soft detent that only stops at the 45 degree and 90 degree angle. Which basically renders it totally useless.

The hinge there has no other use too: Never shows up in transformation. It's clearly designed to be an ankle tilt and nothing else. Which begs the question: what the fuck is the detent for?

>>6041353
Nope, no wrists.

Yes, but because the front of the chest is clear you have to flip the head facing forwards or backwards based on the mode to make sure you don't have an angry upside down face staring through.

Shoulders, not quite. Hip skirts are articulated and move out of the way quite nicely.

>>6041351
Judging he lives in Florida. I guess there are far more crazier stuff there to even care about a grown man with a Sentai toy.

Also took me not even 5 secs to find where that store is located.

>>6041353
OptiHarambemus already has a review up same goes for that other reviewer if you don't want to give him the views.

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>>6041357
Also: on the topic of the head: You need to insert it into the wolf mode head or it's a hollow skull. Odd design choice, but that's how it is.

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>>6041359
>Wading through a half-hour video of autistic rambling when I can get the exact answers I want right now

>>6041320

Nice!

>>6041371
I actually just checked the transformations and the robot mode section and drowned out what he is saying since I couldn't understand what the fuck he is saying.

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>>6041363
Onto the vehicle modes: First off is tank/AA thing.

This is where things get a little weak. The arms just hang off at the sides and don't peg into anywhere. This also happens on a good number of the other modes too. In addition, the legs just sit there on his back without pegging together or even locking in anywhere, which does suck quite a bit.

Visually this mode is nice but playability wise it's probably the weakest.

>>6041352
I guess 80 degrees for the arms is still ok. Not perfect, but workable. Now this>>6041357 is fucking bullshit.

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>>6041380
Next: plane mode. Already much better, but once again the arms don't lock in anywhere. Also, minor gripe but the landing gear is a pain to get out.

Also keep in mind that I'm trying to do this with the headmaster still attached, although once you get to wolf mode it becomes unavoidable.

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>>6040863
you can try this

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>>6041390
Sub mode: a bit meh: The arms once again don't lock on and the legs in this mode remain extended for some reason so it looks a bit odd from above. Nothing much to say about this mode though.

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>>6041396
Car mode: probably the most solid mode, because this time the arms actually lock, and everything feels solid. Safe to say this is probably my favorite of his alt modes.

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>>6041400
Finally: wolf mode. The back legs kinda suck but that's to be expected of Sixshot. As you can see the head fills out the empty space in the wolf skull, which means that this is the only mode where leaving the head attached will not work. Otherwise I quite like this mode despite how odd it looks.

>>6041407
Still a better beast mode than Alpha Trion.

>>6040661
I knew Last Knight was going to have so much better stuff than AoE. Hopefully there is more good things to come, and less of the shit that was with AoE.

>>6041407
Do you think it's possible to stick a piece of plastic or another headmaster in there forever?

>>6041407
Ok, now try posing him in robot mode. Compare him to Blaster since that dude can pose really well.

Also, post a pic with every single titan master you have wearing the Sixshot helmet.

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>>6041394
>those open molded hands

They were just straight up designing her for lewd shots weren't they?

>>6041412
Definitely, but the main issue is if you can get it to fit into the hole, since it's very clearly designed for that titanmaster alone.

Someone on Shapeways will probably make a filler piece though.

>>6041414
His posing is kinda eh thanks to the elbow issue and the ankle tilt issue, but otherwise he's fine. Also the shoulder pylons can be a tad bit annoying but they're mostly bearable. Not much to say beyond that, not much to show either unless you have specific requests.

Not sure if I have the time to do that, I do have quite a few titanmasters and only one Sixshot.

>>6041421
Just take a pic of the head, and group all the head shots in one pic.

>Those shitty deals on BBTS.

It's like they want to keep their old stock. They have tons of CW, and even Generations toys unsold, and almost none of them are on sale, plus most of the sales aren't that great.

>>6041426

BBTS really needs to shape up. Either offer some free shipping, or give better discounts, or shit, even a rewards program or something.

>>6041056
Partsform his forearms, take the mushrom peg out and let them plug into his shins, or just tuck them under the hood, thats what i do.

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>>6041041
>filename
Saving it with the same filename, you goddamn genius.

>>6041258
Three Hasbro Hardheads?

>>6041445
He's probably the autist who bought like 6 Hardheads.

>>6041351
It was a cafe that did local toku events.

>>6041447
Not me, but that anon has excellent taste.

>>6040653
>Asking /toy/ how to get pussy

Kek

>>6041456
>not me
Sure thing, Hardhead autist.

>>6041447
>>6041456
For what reason would anyone get three or more Hardheads? I understand getting two if you really want him to have two green rifles, but otherwise I don't understand.

Is it a troopbuild thing?

>>6041447
He also had an army of scourges, when I asked him he wanted them to fight.

Let anons spend their money how they please you poor fag, now if you excuse me I need to continue my mp seeker collection hunting, but do leave army builder anon alone, k?

>>6041459
I never said I wasn't the guy who bought 6 Hardheads, but I'm not the anon who took that pic.

>>6041471
>Is it a troopbuild thing?
most likely, as Hardhead's body works really well with several of the Titanmasters that don't have dedicated bodies right now(especially Brawn and Clobber)

>>6041476
Scourge also works fairly well as a generic body for currently bodyless Titanmasters(since there's supposed to be multiple Sweeps anyways)

>>6041471
It's an autist thing.

>>6041476
Stay butthurt, Hardhead autist.

>>6041477
Then why are you even in this conversation?

>>6041445
Gifts from friends
I don't return gifts from friends
It's that simple

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Generations Nightbeat and/or Rattrap, for $10 Canadian each, in package. Would this be a fair purchase? Or should I wait for used ones to come along? How are these molds?

>>6041528
Probably not Nightbeat. Rattrap isn't perfect but he's pretty unique.

>>6041528
Not a bad offer for Rattrap, just remember to do the shin fix.

>>6041530
>>6041531
The seller's price is $15 for each, but I was hoping to ask for $20 for both, or $10 for one of them.

What's wrong with the Nightbeat mold? I'm unsure if TR Nightbeat-proper will make a debut, meanwhile idk much about the Bumblebee/Nightbeat mold but he looks pretty cool.

Shin fix? I see the pictures on tfw, hopefully it won't be that hard to replicate. Is the transformation as irritating as it seems? He seems like quite a poseable figure

>>6041520
Dang. I wish I got current-line figures as presents.

>>6041451
That's cool. Got any other pics?

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>>6041528
mfw I heard that Nightbeat was a detective in the comics, but didn't realize he wore a giant car sized trenchcoat and fedora like a huge faggot.

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>>6041556
He's a cool guy, and I was wondering if the generations figure would do him JUSTICE

>>6041556
>m'headmaster
>*tips fedora*

>>6041407
Sixshot really looks like a TR that would be good with a 2nd headmaster.

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Zoom zoom

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Friendship!

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Due to too many choices which of the 2 would be better?

Legends combo convoy bat or mp ironhide, on hlj they're almost the same price and considering I own BOTH of the molds already (ironhide and mindwipe respectively) would it be fair to say the mp would be better value for money?

>>6041782
If you really had absolutely nothing better to spend your money on, I'd go with Convobat, even though I find it to be a bit of a forced redeco.

>>6041782
shit, I meant to say I have ratchet already

>>6041784
why convoy bat then?

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Ok guys, any rumors to what the next mp after megatron would be?

Is it too early for a beast megatron?

Or do we expect to see a hoist/trailbreaker in this constant chase with 3p efforts?

>>6041808
Rumors suggest Hound and Jazz.

>>6041808
>MP Primal is busy shelfwarming 1 month after release
>"muh MP beast megatron when"

>>6041815
Which potentially means confirmed repaints into stepper and...um hounds other one.

>>6041819
I'm not watching sales charts or any of that, I'm still waiting on my pre-order from PC infact despite pre-ordering within the first month.

Would it be possible production numbers are just higher now for mp's especially smaller ones?

>>6041821
It's literally on clearance prices on a good number of retailers. That should be enough proof to Takara that catering to a vocal minority is a bad idea.

>>6041822
Where, hlj, amiami don't show any significant drops, ebay prices don't show much?

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Is this worth $90?

I found one mint sealed in an antiques shop, I never handled the mold, I already have a mirage (well its from combiner wars but you know...) but how do you guys feel about paying this much for an older figure?

Would I be violating its rarity by ripping it out of the box, something about that high price scares me from opening it

>>6041845
lol not even close

that mold looks like shit

>>6041845
I really hope you didn't buy it. Good figure it may be, it's not worth that much. You can't even really enjoy it that well when it's made of clear plastic.

>>6041849
Subjective really, it sucks as a mirage though, I know that much, was thinking of making it a crasher despite not even close.

>>6041850
I didn't buy it yet

>You can't even really enjoy it that well when it's made of clear plastic

I don't get how scared we are of clear plastic, I can totally understand gps since my protoform starscream creaks when transformed, but I've had plenty of clear toys over the years and they held fine, like my gobot firecracker or g2 sizzle, in which both have been burred under my toys from yesteryear (so was protoform starscream but somehow got crammed into g2 optimus's trailer), I don't get it, yeah translucent plastic is more brittle, just means you don't ham hand it, doesn't mean its gonna explode in a shower of plastic.

Has anyone here actually had a translucent figure break on them that wasn't the direct result of too much pressure when transforming?

>>6041845
I actually like that mold because his silhouette is quite unique, I wouldn't get that exclusive though.

>>6041853
>re: clear plastic
Maybe it's just that stress is more easily shown on clear plastic, and that's worrisome for a lot of people.

Maybe it's the same train of thought that makes people dislike rubber so much; the thought that it would break or disintegrate sooner than the solid plastic.

>>6041858
This is true, ironically I worry more about rubber than clear plastic.

Here's the kicker, optibotimus's mp10's tires have already cracked, my g1/g2 optimus prime's tires are still intact and as mentioned I don't even try to look after them

>>6041853
>was thinking of making it a crasher despite not even close.

A homage to Crasher was already made with that mold in the movie line.

So I own alot of jet transformers, the bulk of my collection are seekers with a leader jetfire, the repaint of dreadwind, and the UW aerial bots being my favs that aren't seeker related.

What are some good jet transformers, preferably based on real world aircraft, any f-14's or anything just real special?

>>6041858
>>6041859
Clear plastic really isn't an issue unless it's under stress, because clear plastic is less strong and stress marks are more visible even if breakage isn't likely.

Rubber on the other hand can just die eventually if you have bad luck no matter what you do.

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>>6041861
ROTF Voyager and Leader Starscreams are really good transformers but they may not fit your collection's aesthetic.

Lugnut (from the HTFD line) is a pretty fantastic transformer that turns into a WWII bomber.

>>6041822

>literally on clearance prices on a good number of retailers
>Black Friday only sales
>Proof it's not selling well

Full retard.

>>6041866
Leader starscream was a dream but I settled on the movie advance, does the job fairly well.

Lugnut though is VERY tempting though, cheers

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>>6041861
Do you:
>like the F-22
>not mind Bayformers designs
>appreciate good engineering
?

If yes to any two of these, you should get Hunt For The Decepticons Leader Starscream, from 2010 (or TakaraTomy's MPM-1 if you don't like the tattoos). The toy is as close as we're ever gonna get to an accurate movie Screamer that can still transform into an accurate Raptor. Amazingly for a jetformer, there's no fat box of robot parts in jet mode. The bottom is definitely made out of robot parts, but they're made so that the profile is still relatively smooth.

I believe DOTM Deluxe Starscream accomplishes similar things, but in a smaller and more simplified manner.

>>6041868
The fact that it's going on sale on black friday is proof that it's doing fairly badly.

>>6041875
Oh I have the deluxe, I was impressed by it, if I ever see one of the leader variants cheap (like the g1 colors, might be comical to put it alongside my mp11) I will acquire it, cheers

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>>6041861
Is HFTD Highbrow a jet?

As you can see, the movie lines have given us some really good alt modes on some really good toys.

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>>6041881
Aw man, that thing was so ridiculous. I saw at least one of those in every toy store for years.

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>>6041861
Do you have Terradive or one of the repaints? Really cool figure with real world alt-mode.

>>6041897
>>6041899
I don't, but now I'm interested, seems finding the old g2 figure on ebay is easier than finding him for a reasonable price

>>6041875
I always got the feeling that bayformer Starscream was a designer favorite, it seems like all of his toys are engineered in some creative way and is overall really well designed

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>>6041899
>>6041901
I'll second this. The Terradive mold is fantastic.

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>>6041875
>>6041881
if you're really impressed by the deluxe i really recommend getting DOTM Thundercracker, plus that his mechtech weapon is actually one of the only few ones that is pretty cool

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Why is MP megs so expensive? This giant faggot is the same price as him.

>>6041949
>license to brand
>staff payments (considering how large the company is in comparison to 3rd party manufacturers)
>design, manufacture and engineering
>testing phases ie safety, quality
>mark up knowing official fans WILL pay


3rd parties have an easier time than the official companies, and those who make improved variants like mpp10 have it easier and thus charge you only for the add on and plastic itself.

And yes, I DID mention the corporate greed but that is to be expected, buy what you like, don't buy what you don't like for whatever reason (just know the most faggotted reason why to even buy official, if the interest in the brand somehow fades below a certain threshold they might just stop altogether, hence why we do need to buy official from time to time)

>>6041875
One time I bought Leader Bayscream off eBay for $14 shipped, complete (it was listed as a Stealth Force figure lel). Flipped it for forty something.

>>6040725
>>Th- This isn't a face
Ah-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>6041949

He has a shit ton of add-on parts, and electronics.

>>6042007
The electronics are in the canon, its just a voice box and what seems to be a light that goes off when speaking much like fort max's.

The add on parts wouldn't be worth that much, compare what he has to mp10 and you'll see what I mean

>>6042007
No matter how many accessories or gimmick they put in a toy, at the end of the day it's still cheap to make and they sell it for what they think they can get away with.

fitting some extra guns into the mold and stuffing LED wiring into a toy doesn't make a 150 at best toy worth 200

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>>6042012

>Wasting money on a shitty static voice box that will make 1 gargled explosion sound effect

>>6042023
It would of been worth it if it was frank welker's voice, granted I like jp megatron's voice but its not something I can say LOOK MEGATRON SPEAKS and people would recognize apart from the weebiest of weebs that even /a/ would call autistic beyond believe

I picked up a Brainstorm today.

I'm waiting for LG Brainstorm but I figured it'd be fun to get the TR version to play around with for a bit, only now that I have him I kind of want to hold on to him misb for some reason.

>>6042029
Welker can't even do the G1 voice anymore so it would be pointless.

>>6042031
>misb
It's just a mainline toy that may or may not have good qc. Play with him anon.

So I was at Costco seeing their holiday isles, and I'm just wondering, why the hell aren't the combiner box sets there? I think they'd make fantastic gifts for casuals but I've never seen a single one in person at regular retail stores. I know they've carried tf stuff before. What happened? Is everyone just giving up on the franchise?

>>6042046
probably because the G2 combiner sets are fucking stupid and one of the dumbest boxsets Hasbro has done in a while.

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>>6042046
Maybe they're just all out of stock.

>>6042046
I've never seen them in US retail... at full price, but I have seen them for 40 at TJmaxx.

>fortmax for 165cad on amazon

eh
I don't don't think I want that

>>6041868
What other MPs had Black Friday discounts?

>>6042062
US amazon has it at 99. Maybe you could get someone to buy it for you then send it to you?

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3 down, 1 to go.

Maybe 2 if we include Triggerhappy.

>>6042066
I think Lazerwave was 15% off

>>6042076
You better include Trigger Happy you double nebulon!

>>6042079
I'm waiting to see what the Takara version looks like, and if he comes with anything extra.

>>6042076
Is Mindwipe's head solid or rubbery

>>6042076
Post the legends comic.

>>6042076
Christ for a second I thought Mindwipe's wings were all clear red plastic

>>6042076
Wait, does the Highbrow box use the wrong colors for Highbrows chest?

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Just got my UW Devastator and I was wonder if anyone has a good way to store the bot guns on devy's back?

>>6042101
>good way to store the bot guns
Pretty sure there's a recommendation for doing that in the instruction manual.

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>>6042093
Huh. You're right, it's colored more like Hasbro Highbrow.

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>>6042101
It quite literally shows you exactly how to store them in the instructions sheet.

You can just peg some of them together and store them all on two 5mm peg holes on Longhauls bucket.

Devastators weapon will also fit on there with them if you split it into its two halves, if you don't feel like making him hold his gun all the time.

>>6041316
>a): that's retarded
Get a load of this faggot.

>>6042108
>>6042113
I don't need instructions, and I've seen that image already, figured out something I think works better than that, shame their's seemingly no other ideas.

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>>6041819
Shelfwarming where exactly? His price has gone up by almost 50% on amazon.jp and he's sold out on Amiami and Anime-Export.

Faggot.

>>6042046
Its because cw/tr is a adult/collector line same with most generations shit. Children don't go out and go oh shit devastator that robot i've never seen that was in the 80's same with all the other cw/tr stuff

Why stock generations that only adults/scalpers will buy when you can have 3 steps and rid/movie crap shelfwarm. Its dumb but its how the major retailers think nowadays, which is why retail is dying out.

>>6041956
>mark up knowing official fans WILL pay

Don't kid yourself, it's all this one.

>>6042050

Are these shelves in places other than the US? I've never seen a shelf this well stocked of ANYTHING outside of SW shit during a movie re/release, or TMNT in the 90's.

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>>6042062

FortMax is pretty fun, but I don't know how much 165 mapledollars is compared to Freedomerica Eaglebux.

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Sorry for the bad photo but I'm in a rush
Just wanted to share that Astrotrain's head looks pretty good for Galvatron

>>6040755
>story is named Trigger Warnings
>it triggers people

2meta4u

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>>6042144
Yeah, I'm from the Philippines, and that's at a toy store in the second-biggest mall in the country.

I usually take shelf shots when I find new waves, but I haven't seen anything new for some time. This picture was from August.

>>6042153
What's that Bumblebee and Megatron on the bottom left? Never seen those.

Kre-o is completely redesigned for 2017.The new sets based on TLK have more detail and new features.See ya at Toy Fair.

>>6042159
It's the simplified voyager class toys. 2007 era Legends class-tier articulation.
Forgot what it's called.

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>>6041861
I really like PCC Skyhammer.

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>>6042171
He has a flip-out aviator helmet that doesn't hinder head articulation. In fact, you can't transform him into jet mode without putting on the helmet, which I think is hilarious.

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>>6042159
Cyber Battalion series; Deluxe and Voyager-sized figures with Legends/Cyberverse-level engineering. Cheaper than actual Deluxes and Voyagers, they exist for those kids who want Transformers bigger than Legions but have parents who don't want to pay full price.

I think they ended up being a limited release? They're common here, but IIRC the last Cyber Battalion sighting in the US was at a Universal Studios.

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>>6042173
Jet mode is also pretty decent, landing gear and all.

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>>6042175
And lastly, he has a targetmaster with knee, waist, AND head articulation.

>>6041949
Also you're probably looking at BBTS/TFsource bullshit markup prices.

I really wish people would stop using those for official price comparisons.

>>6042170
>>6042174
I've seen something similar to those with the Transformers Prime toys, but never those. Thanks.

>>6042179

Because as crazy as it might sound, most people don't like, or don't bother with, importing.

Which is why those shops exist. Remember: No one would be doing it, if there wasn't money to be made from it.

>>6042177
Every time I look at my Mini-Cons I regret having been a dumb teenager who lost Chopster's leg.

>>6042183
Just the Abominus deluxes I think? And even then they didn't even make a full set.

I hope they take the recent Legends Kickback and do it as the Deluxe Insecticon from 1985 Ransack.

>>6042186
>most people don't like, or don't bother with, importing.
>but still bitch that things are expensive
Well then those people are retarded.

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>>6042196
Redeco Bombshell into that green one first.

>>6042192
I'm pretty sure there was a Predaking too.

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>>6042204
There's a nice hasbro stand-in for Barrage.

>>6042214
I'm really upset about Chop Shop. It's a great mold and a good figure, but all they had to do was actually cast him in brown instead of orange, and remold his pincers, and it would have been perfect.

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>>6042204
Yes, finally an excuse to post this!

I really like the second generation of Insecticons. The uniform black/purple and yellow deco is cool but Ransack especially really pops with the clear orange wings. Like they're made out of lasers or something.

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>>6042215

But he is brown.

>>6042076
Fuck the only one I got from this wave is Chromedome. I will have to buy Highbrow and Mindwipe later on unfortunately.

>>6042164
Good news!

>>6042120
>I don't need instructions
>I want my own special snowflake way of doing it

Fuck off retard.

>>6042073
Honestly it's only going to be about $30 difference and it will still end up at the same price because of shipping and shit.

>>6042244
Jesus, it's clearly more of a "Yeah, that works" than a "This is the best and only way this should be done" scenario.

And fyi, mine's better.

>>6041819
Such delusions about wanting MP Primal to shelf warm when everybody says it doesn't and everybody that owns or has seen it in person will tell you he's one of the most solid MPs that came out in a while that is not a car.

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>>6042257

Kind of disappointing so many people are reporting issues with the face/head paints though due to the clearances being super small, or just getting them out of the box with paint defects.

I need to get a Harambe Prime still.

>>6042268
Mine didn't have any and I noticed there was a plastic flash on the slot where the gorilla head goes around in early on so I sanded it and now the head slides in there like a dick to a pussy.

I've played with 3ps and official MPs for a while now and Harambe is the only one that I was giggling while playing with it. Everything else was me being scared of breaking them but that one, I can play with him and everything feels fine. Even my MP Star Saber scares me when I transform him.

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>>6042276

I only own 1 official MP so far-The new Hotrod-but I do want to get more.

Any to avoid/get before others, besides MP10?

>>6042281
Well all of them have their risk and rewards. My own collection is 12 MPs(3 3ps, 9 official) but like I said I've handle more than that and those 10 are the stuff I actually did want in my collection.

I would get MP Harambe honestly, this one I could not recommend enough. Even people who didn't like Beast Wars fell in love with that MP. Everything else it's your discretion. MP Inferno might be a contender too since seeing that review made me want one. His engineering is just top notch, surprisingly it has a better transformation than Ocular Max and Maketoys. It's like HasTak saw how they were transformed and decided to made it even better. I'm a firm believer that you don't need rubber wheels nor diecast to make a good MP. Just because a figure has them doesn't make them actually good.

>>6042268
the clearance is fine, albeit uncomfortably tight. The reason why pain scratch issues happen on his robot head antenna is because they pass right by a pin, and if the pen edge is jagged at all it'll scrape the paint.

If you sand down that pin to smooth out the ends (if they're jagged) then it's no issue. Unfortunately I did it after the fact so I have to live with scratched paint, though if people are right about him being a shelf warmer then I should have no issue buying him for 40$ in a bargain bin to replace later on.


Other than that though I'm pleased with the quality of the fur tampo in terms of resilience. I had a lot of concerns about them wearing off through rubbing but I really doubt it'll be an issue, if you told me it were a texture that was molded into the plastic then I'd probably believe you.
There are some noticeable blemishes here and there during manufacturing but for the most part they don't stick out very much. Unfortunately mine has a tiny speck of metal blue paint that seeming flaked off of the neutral gorilla face's muzzle but the other faces are fine so I much have just gotten bad luck. I could always just pretend he has a mole or something.

>>6042281
I'd honestly say any MP after 10 could be worth buying if you want them.

The only ones I'd say are more "flawed" would be Starscream and Shockwave, though they're still good in their own right.

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>>6042329

Well, I've already got some 3P stuff covering my Megs and Shockwave, plus the officials just don't look as good to me for those offerings.

I do want to snag a Soundwave reissue, hopefully there won't be any problems with those.

How are the Datsun Bros? I'd want to pick up Prowl mostly.

Other than that, I want to snag a Grapple, Optimus, and Ironhide & Ratchet.

>>6042339
Prowl and Ironhide/Ratchet are both really great molds (though Ratchet's white paint is somewhat prone to flaking around rub areas like his roof and thighs). In general it's really hard to go wrong with any of the car bots.

And Optimus is basically perfect.

Can't speak for Grapple though since he isn't out yet.

>>6042346

Any major difference between JPN/US releases of the figures that have'em? I know the US Optimus has a much more cartooney color scheme, which I think looks better over the darker JPN one, but beyond that I don't know much about the differences in other figures.

>>6042350
In general, most of the differences come down to how they paint the toys. Takara typically does a lot of "X color paint on X color plastic" to give their MPs much nicer colors, but Hasbro doesn't do this. It doesn't necessarily make them look worse, but side by side a takara MP might have much richer colors than a Hasbro MP.

a quick summary for most of the hasbro versions:
Grimlock has unpainted grey plastic and rounded edges, mostly the same.
Optimus has unpainted red plastic, brighter colors and a bit more painted details than the Takara version. Some people report loose ankle joints on him.
Soundwave's paint jobs are identical I believe, though hasbro has yellow eyes instead of yellow. The Hasbro version is notable for including 5 cassettebots whereas the Takara version only comes with Laserbeak for the same price.
Starscream has a more toy accurate deco and silvery painted blue plastic, and it's remarkable for having a chest that stays together slightly better due to overall tighter transformation joints than the Takara version, though it's still pretty floppy. Same goes for all the other Hasbro Seekers.

Prowl, Bluestreak and Bumblebee are identical to the Takara versions, though the MP Exosuit with Bumblebee has brighter colors.

I'm not familiar with any other differences but I know the Hasbro seekrs have slightly different decos.

In General though it's typically not worth getting Hasbro MPs except for Soundwave, because unless they're new/recent and on the shelves then they're typically scalped HARD, compared to Takara MPs who are pretty easy to find for MSRP everywhere years after they come out.

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I don't need it.

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>>6042236
He's really more of a burnt sienna. I wanted him to look like his official render.

>>6042301
>surprisingly it has a better transformation than Ocular Max and Maketoys
How is this surprising? Official stuff pretty much always has a better transformation.

>>6042361
Actually, Soundwave has one other notable difference: the small panels on the sides of his feet, used to store Rumble/Frenzy guns, are unpainted.

>>6042281
The only official MP I don't like is Shockwave, because his unpainted purple looks cheap as shit. Technically, he's still a good toy, I just wish he looked like he was worth what he cost.

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>>6042372
Yes you do.

>>6042379
There are some 3ps with amazing Transformation and their official version sometimes is lacking in that department. Just look at Grinder vs MP-08.

I got ocean transfer decals for MP Ratchet today

How the hell do these work again?

Just picked up TR Soundwave. He's a really cool figure, but all these hinges and panels locking so tightly for boombox mode makes me nervous

Triggerhappy is very satusfying and I didnt even realize it was a decepticon lol

>>6042431
also are these water slide decals or dry decals?

I can't find any info about these anywhere but it seems like they're water based

>>6042477
Post a pic of the sheet and I should be able to tell you.

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>>6042518
That does look like a water slide sheet.
I'd try cutting out that Transformers logo in the top left and putting it in hot water for a minute or so just to check, if it is a water transfer sheet everything printed on it should slide off.

>>6041282
i showed this to a non TF collecting friend of mine, he said it looked like a Go Bot with that funky "head"

>>6042522
I thought so. I peeled back a bit of the clear plastic top because literally everywhere I check says its dry transfer, and the decal didn't come off with the clear plastic.

Wasn't sure if I just got a bad sheet or if it's water transfer

I messed with a ROTF Deluxe Cannon Bumblebee and wow, I thought it was a Fast Action Battler or something until I looked the toy up.

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I got it.

>>6042553

Nice! Wish my stores actually stocked the damn things.

>>6042372
He's so fucking gorgeous

>>6041866
Have a decent-condition Lugnut that I'm just not that into. What's a decent price I should sell it for?

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>>6042570
Why did you post Cosmos?

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>>6042361
>grimlock
Correct
>soundwave
Aside from what you said the inside of a foot panel is left unpainted on the hasbro panel, not detrimental as its on the inside of the robot mode foot but its noticeable
>starscream
>and it's remarkable for having a chest that stays together slightly better due to overall tighter transformation joints than the Takara version

Ok mine CAN'T transform its chest without excessive force, the sides of the canopy block it from sliding down unlike the previous seekers from both hasbro and takara, mine is also floppier than the previous ones (I mean my mp ramjet does better, mp ramFUCKINGQCSHITFESTjet)

>mp datsuns
Tampos can be crooked, additional toy warnings but thats present on all hasbro mp's, excess flash on silverstreak makes his transformations stiffer than takara datsun's and hasbro prowl, I suspect mold degradation

No idea about bumblebee as I only own a g2.

>mp seekers have slightly different decos

Drastically different, look at sunstorm, thundercracker, starscream is the only one with a minor deco change and thats what you said previously.

Hasbro's are initially the same as hasbro's in tolerances but their versions suffer mold wise before you notice on the takara ones, just putting that out there

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>order second hand mp sideswipe
>told its legit
>pictures show black outline around headlights
>my previous 2 don't have that so looking forward to a REAL mp lambor
>with amazon piledrivers
>open box
>looks gorgeous compared to my other 2
>lift him out of tray
>a screw drops
>can't find where his screw goes

He's the real deal, box matches guides, paint is crisp (well, for a mp car), even his head hatch locks down unlike my other 2 I own, but I can't find where this screw goes and he's stiff enough so wherever it fell its not a problem.

Do I complain to the japanese ebay seller or do I just mark him down and move on?

>>6042594

Is it possible there was just an extra screw in the box due to a factory fuckup?

>>6042526
Yeah they're water decals.

Weird how everywhere says they're dry decals though.

Now if I could just find a guide for this set that would be nice. there's a ton of decals beyond the obvious red crosses and I can't figure out where the hell any of them go

>>6042600
Dunno, all I know was this is second hand, the box had been opened (seller had pics of him in the tray on ebay)

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>>6042680

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>>6042553
ugh pls buy me one senpai u_u

>>6042702
They only had one Brainstorm and two Mindwipes.

I'm starting to feel crazy now

I can't find anything about these mp ratchet ocean/eness decals except for that i can buy them on ebay

I wasn't even planing on putting them all on but I just want to know where half of this shit is supposed to go. Like why the hell are there 3 red crosses for his shoulders? Is there a 3rd arm I dont know about?

>>6042594
You can use a screw of a different transformer. Funny thing is that transformers screws are standard for the toys. I ruined an MP screw when I was doing a fix on mine and I just used a screw from a junker and it fits perfectly.

>>6042748

Just curious, but would you know how to extract a ruined screw? The head is completely fucked on a screw I need to remove.

So I ordered that year of the monkey Air Attack Primal. Shit was marked the fuck down on Amazon to $35. wasn't it like $150 originally? I'd love to have the original instead for the proper colors and all the cool Garry Chalk voice clips but either way for the price it's a neat figure.

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Hmm

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>>6042790

Well, yeah, that is a pretty easy swap. What'er you getting at there Anon?

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Brainstorm is pretty fun.