Articulated Icons basic ninja review: https://www.youtube.

>>6036235
Is this dude shilling his own shit or something?

Also, paint looks Marvel Legends-tier. Not really something to boast about.

>a: hey, let's make some premium figures

>b: awesome! great idea!

>a: yeah, I was thinking mother fucking NINJAS

>b: oh dude, I love it

>a: yeah, and we can go totally nuts and charge premium prices, and market it to adult collectors that want ultimate figures. and I know some guys that are professional toy designers, we can hire them!

>b: sweet! fucking awesome! this sounds like a dream come true

>a: yeah! and we'll make the articulation exactly identical to a bunch of shitty $20 figures that have been using the same ancient clunky joint system for basically 15 years without a shred of improvement

>b: yeah, I- wait, what?

>a: I think $45 would work for a glorified Walmart toy, don't you? plus shipping, of course

>the hands
I hope that isn't the fucking final plastic for them, the pictures had pretty real looking skin, the skin on this is shiny silly putty.

>>6036268
The guy also has super harsh lighting going on, which would exaggerate any flaws in the paint and figure

>>6036235

are these some kind of hilarious homages to those so-fucking-horrible-they're-kind-of-good american ninja movies?

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>>6036262
>>6036268
Like I've said from the beginning, I'm predicting Funko Legacy levels of quality. Hard to swallow the price, but I kinda want to be a part of this and support more shit like this.

I ordered a group of them, I'm hoping they won't be shit.

That is all I can do.

I only got "snakeeyes" and "stormshadow"

seems like a perfectly nice generic ninja figure, shame about the price though

I wouldn't feel comfortable spending more than $15 on it

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> teleports behind u

> nothing personnel kid

> $45

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defend this

>>6036408
The backstories are garbage. They contradict the shit out of themselves constantly within that one story alone. A special operative ninja with pistols and night-vision goggles shouldn't exist in the same timeline as ninjas and samurai warlords. And no info about the character is even given, just an overabundant amount of similes and metaphors about how dangerous he is. Cringe-worthy shit

>inb4 you're taking this too seriously

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>>6036235
Stop the bitching! I'm glad I funded $150.00 for 3 figures and have no remorse. I helped someone's dream become a reality and in return they're giving me a real figure from their dome to my hand. Quit comparing this stuff to Wal-Mart and face the fact you get what you PAID FOR. STOP THE BITCHING NOW.

>>6036432
>>6036282
>>6036262
THIS.

>>6036432
he's the black karate gi guy and the undying ronin too. so goggles is just a future tense version of him

>>Coming soon to an ACBA Alley-way/Sewer photoshoot near you

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I just don't know why people give this project so much shit? They're giving us a quality story line and highly posable Ninja's and Samurai's.

Why do people talk shit? They aren't even that expensive. You get what you pay for.

Also, basic Ninja's should be cheaper in the secondary market so order the more expensive less-likely figures that can't be purchased in 12 packs.

>>6036462
>not that expensive

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>>6036462

>>6036466
Each figure comes with tons of accessories. Plastic isn't cheap. Also, you have to remember these are imports, technically.

>>6036408
10/10 would cringe again

>>6036473
How is it cringe? It's originality, is it cringe because it's new to you?

>>6036470
Japan sells model kits of guns that can be detached and broken down like a real weapon could

People need to realize this is a brand new-line. They didn't have a comic book concept to go off of like Hasbro, nor can they afford to mass-manufacturer these. That is why they are so somewhat costly. Also, the story behind each character is pure originality. The story will later evolve into something even bigger.

>>6036475
You must be 18 or older to post on here.

>>6036480
What an unprofitable idea.

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>>6036481
Nice comeback, I'm 19

>>6036475
>>6036480
Either this is really, REALLY poor quality bait, or you have absolutely no concept of what the word original means.

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>>6036483
Unprofitable? They needed 160k originally to get funded originally and they're sitting at 343k right now. I imagine they're making some sort of profit.

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>>6036477
Those are shit without glue

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Doesn't even matter what kind of toy is released; even if it is perfect, you people will still try and find a flaw.

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>>6036493

It honestly looks like a marvel legend.

> Best ninja never got a decent figure

What went wrong?

>>6036503
What went wrong? It wasn't an Articulated Icon.
LOL

>>6036408
>ebony
They really looked for synonyms for black or this didn't they

>>6036503
Also these Articulated Icons have S.H. Figuarts joints. Nice try though.

>>6036507
Believe that could of been a mistake, it was probably relevant for the time of typing it.

>>6036492
Still cheaper and better. I put time and effort into my toys and not be a happy little man with a barebones over priced bootleg

>>6036489
4 Horsemen made double that and only have single knee/elbow joints with a leftover glyos gimmick because their stuff actually looks worth the asking price.

>>6036508

$550 kickstarter backer detected.

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>>6036514
If these two projects were both in competition for funding Feudal Series would of won plain & simple. How do these not look worth the asking price? ELABORATE.

Also, the video reviewed an FEP sample, not the FINISHED product.

>>6036523
I didn't back that much, I just respect the project managers and their motivation to release quality figures made by collectors.
They put a lot of work into making this a possibility, for that I respect them.

Simple-as-that.

>>6036526
4 Horsemen alone evokes a sense of royal. These two bit tokens belong in the amcba alleyways coming to an instagram near you

>>6036538
Oh, my god.

>>6036526
>>6036533

You are seriously shilling too hard.

$45+shipping for a marvel legend looking figure with slightly better articulation is not appealing.

>>6036544
I'm not shilling in anyway, or am I getting paid? Don't even think Fwoosh knows about /toy/ to begin with.

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>>6036544
Don't even compare these to Legends.

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>>6036543
God is right, little shilly kun. Whatevercompanyname will never compare to the royality and granduer 4H have evoked among their fans

>>6036551

Is that supposed to look impressive?

>>6036558
SIGH

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>>6036551
Figuarts bruce lee looks miles better than that bootleg

>>6036567
Bootleg? How.

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>>6036564
You know its true because only amacab fans paid army building ammounts for this

>>6036568

Not him, but it looks like they ripped off Bruce and put him in a shitty mortal kombat costume.

>>6036573
Monk-warrior. Bruce was an inspiration, I believe.

>>6036571
Nah.

>>6036575
Foguarts bruce lee still looks better

>>6036582
Nah.

>Packed with tons of accesories!
>blank arms are literally their own box set and not included

How cheap

>>6036591
I don't see other toy companies releasing hands/arms packs for their figures

>>6036462
>They're giving us a quality story line
Given how this is 4chan, I guess when you say "quality" you're actually referring to QUALITY.

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>Ninja is an average human
>taller than wolverine

I thought asians were short so they should be the same height. Also holy shit how come wolverine has butterfly shoulder joints and the ninja, who is just as athletic and flexible, has none.

>>6036597
Wolverine was VERY small in the comic(s).

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>>6036595
Thats because you are dumb. And its a stupid idea. These shelved so hard you could buy ten of them for the original price of one

>>6036597
>I thought asians were short so they should be the same height.
Kek. I was thinking the same thing as I was watching the vid.

>>6036600
Wolverine should be around 5' 4" though.

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>>6036600
He looks to be the same height here

>>6036603
>Thats because you are dumb
That is all I needed to hear.

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>4 Horsemen made double that
So because 4H made more money, that means their ninjas are unprofitable, despite being profitable... wut?

>>6036462
The majority of the people dislike the line because it's too expensive. A lot of poorfags complaining about sour grapes.

Personally, i didn't back this line and don't care for generic ninjas in 1:12, but seeing this, i sorta want.

>>6036605
Avg height in Japan now is 5'7". The creators probably looked at modern height or ignored it outright

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>>6036607
Thank you for admitting how dumb you are and not being aware of what companies release alternative limb packs

>>6036612
Same anon you're replying to, I was thinking the same thing. That said, these should be a smidge shorter if we're being realistic with the 5'7" height, but hey it's a bunch of caricaturized ninja/samurai so I guess they just tried to scale them with MLs and called it a day.

>>6036610
Finally, someone knowledgeable

>>6036616
>it's just poorfags I swear!
>knowledgeable
I mean, I like the figures, but that's barely even an argument.

>>6036612
Maybe the creators wanted to fit the abacus collectors marvel legends and dc direct collections they display quite frequetently on Instagram and not make it look like batman is fighting a small army of manlets

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at least this makes sense. The actor who play's sensitive josh weaton's fanfic fanboy self insert is a manlet afterall

>>6036619
It's a great argument when this thread is mostly full of people complaining about the price.
>>6036262
>>6036377
>>6036408
>>6036466
>>6036477
>>6036511
>>6036514
>>6036523
>>6036544
>>6036591

>>6036636
>its okay to pay twice the ammount if what ammounts to a marvel legend and offers new in terms of fanciful design or implemented system that would allow to something greater its original design

No thank you

>>6036636
If you were actually around in the last thread, you'd know that the price isn't the only thing being discussed. Rather it's the whole notion of price vs what you're actually getting, which more than anything, looks like a glorified Hasbro figure.

So yeah, saying that the price is somehow the only reason people are complaining is barely an argument.

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Know what, you guys can have your opinions and I'll stick with mine. Just trying to save you guys from regretting not putting out a pre-order. I have to go.

Not being paid to say anything, just care for my /toy/ bros.

>>6036637
I don't disagree and understand it is priced out of some people's budgets, but that's just how it is.
Same way Japanese toys are overpriced as fuck.
The prices aren't justified by what you get.

It's still a fine looking line though with some cool features.

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>>6036649
Yep, 12 dollars for an 8 cm pocket waifu sure is expensive.

>>6036610

Which marvel legend is this?

>>6036658
The Ancient One

>>6036643

> I'm not a shill!

> I'm just trying to get you guys to pre-order!

Top kek

>>6036660
Literally beat me to it.

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>>6036638
>Rather it's the whole notion of price vs what you're actually getting
But that's my point.
That's exactly what sour grapes is.

It's out of their reach, so they're going to niggle at every little bit to show why they don't want it anyway.

Holy fuck this thread got a lot of argument posts fast.

>>6036656
Where are you seeing that for 12 bucks? I'm only seeing a 6 pack that costs 60-120 dollars.

>>6036674
http://global.rakuten.com/en/search/?k=Sylphy&sid=auc-toysanta

>buy sniper cuz others were gone
>literally all are now there

Really wanted Launcher

>>6036669
Tehehe~

>>6036672
Not him, but your entire position is completely childish in that it prohibits the discussion of the cost of literally any product.

>This costs too much I think for what it is
>SOUR GRAPES YOU JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT

Completely childish, and you shouldn't need help understanding why.

>>6036672

If you gave me $45, no strings attached, there are dozens of other figures I'd buy before I'd spend it on one of these.

>>6036694
Reminder that two of these cost the same as three Ultimate NECA figures plus some extra left over $10-15 give or take.

preordered 4 figs and an arms pack. Everything ive seen so far looks cool to me so now the wait to see if theyre gonna be even better in hand begins.
Ive noticed that nearly all figures that people have never handled gets shitted on here on /toy, so all these complaints i see on here dont mean shit, yet.

>>6036714
>buying something without knowing what its like

>>6036683
Sour grapes is a legitimate argument though.

Besides, there's nothing more childish than someone disliking or bitching about something just because they can't get it.

>>6036726
No, there's nothing legitimate about refusing to acknowledge ANY discussion about the pricepoint of a product the way you are doing.

>>6036726
You don't know how much money I make. Besides there are better alternatives, if price isn't an issue than a figuarts ninja would be much better engineered and not a marvel legends style bootleg made of chewing gum plastics

>>6036726
>Besides, there's nothing more childish than someone disliking or bitching about something just because they can't get it
I'm pretty sure a lot of people here can afford it given the amount expensive shit that get threads here on /toy/ (imports, 1/6 figures, hell even that Raptors Kickstarter).

Whether or not they think it's worth that price, let alone worth getting at all, doesn't somehow invalidate their point just because you think it's all just "sour grapes".

>>6036726
Man, I have 4 of these on order and get to write them off as a business expense and I still think they are overpriced for what we'll be getting.

You aren't getting anywhere doing this but making people who like these look unreasonable and fanboyish.

>>6036734
We are talking about the deluxe ninja figures like in OP's pic are we not? You know, the ones that range between $45-55?

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>>6036729
Who's refusing discussion?
Again, i understand that it's priced out of your league, but it's still a case of sour grapes when the complaints all revolve around its price point.

Ignore the price point and the figure would have been praised.
We would not be having so many of you guys bitching if it were as much as an ML or even 4H figure, hence SOUR GRAPES.

>>6036731
hi apple lover.
...does an apple even exist for figuarts?

>>6036747
>Ignore the price point and the figure would have been praised.
It's almost like whether something is generally perceived as a good value or product is determined by several factors.

If the price of marvel legends or SHF doubled tomorrow, would you consider the price point to not factor in to discussion of the overall value of the figures?

>>6036747
>Who's refusing discussion?
>Continues to say that the price point can't be criticized for any valid reason other than jealousy of poor people

You are either shitposting or you completely lack self awareness.

>>6036493

man this is definitely someone from the kickstarter campaign trying to get these low quality overpriced figures relevant somehow.

>>6036747
>calls other people childish
>literally resorts to shitting on Figuarts complete with childish reaction pic
Wew lad.

>people are now shitting on the figures after defending them the last couple of thread
wew lad

>>6036766
People have been pointing out issues with these since they were still on kickstarter. Go in the archive, there's been discussion of the cost and ML design aping since always.

>figuarts joints
>can see the shitty hasbro tier pins in the images
you can't make this shit up

I don't think this often, but this thread feels like straight shilling. ACBA style shilling, even, where they essentially act like assholes and get confused over why you aren't agreeing with them.

>>6036766
>people are now shitting on the figures
>only "now"

Kek. Clearly you weren't around during the last thread.

>>6036775
Any of the threads.

>>6036643
>>6036649
>>6036672

wow this is too dumb to even be called shitposting. Congratulations to you, trying to sell a mediocre toy kickstarter line to a 4chan board and ending up convincing people here that the campaign is made by dishonest people who think anyone on the internet is dumb enough to even want this kind of poor quality, badly designed product. that's an all time-new stupid.

>People don't like something
>Insult them until they like it

What's with people thinking this sort of approach works lately?

Every time a group tries it they get blown the fuck out.

>>6036752
>If the price of marvel legends or SHF doubled tomorrow, would you consider the price point to not factor in to discussion of the overall value of the figures?
Maybe, but the point is most of the complaints here are over sour grapes.
People are niggling, just because of the price.

So if MLs and Figuarts doubled in price, i sure as fuck would complain about the price, but if the figures are still good, I'm not going to be a little whiny poorfag about how they're suddenly shitty.
BTW, the prices HAVE doubled for me. I was paying roughly $20 for Revoltechs, $8 for MLs, etc and guess what? I still buy these toys and like them.
Of course, in the case of MLs, there was a total downgrade in features....

Shit, in the case of Play Arts, i don't even talk about them anymore and they practically doubled in price overnight.
A couple dozen threads a year later, you guys are still crying about sour grapes.

>>6036762
wat?
I'm saying, does a ninja even exist in the figuarts line? The guy is talking about an imaginary toy that is so much better than an actual ninja toy.
And no, beetleborgs and putties don't count as ninjas.

>>6036797
I'm not sure you understand how badly you've made people who like these figures look.

>>6036797
>The guy is talking about an imaginary toy that is so much better than an actual ninja toy
If you actually followed the discussion, that anon was suggesting that the figures should have had better engineering for the asking price, likening said better engineering to the articulation scheme of a Figuarts figure. They were talking about how the figures could have been improved and nothing about wanting some "imaginary toy" that you're babbling about.

>>6036797
>Shit, in the case of Play Arts, i don't even talk about them anymore and they practically doubled in price overnight.
You literally just proved everyone's point with this.

>>6036747

>Grapes = Marvel Legends

TIL

>>6036797
Play arts actually cateer to an audience and can afford intellectual properties such as batman and cowboy bebop

>>6036805
Are you following the discussion?
>Besides there are better alternatives
Imaginary alternatives!
And again, Figuart figures are just as overpriced, yet people have to believe theyre justified because it's Japanese.

>>6036807
You don't understand.
I'm not in PAK threads whining about the sour grapes. I'm not complaining about the sizes, the articulation, the paint, or anything. I simply don't care because of the price.
Yet you guys are here talking about sour grapes, how this toy would be less sour if it were cheaper or had pull down hips or whatever it is that you think would make a $20-30 difference.

>>6036831
its not your decision what is and isn't permisable to talk about here. You are on equal footing to all of us and have no special privlege in thinking calling sourgrapes is a fact when its simple name calling

>>6036831
You are upset that people are talking about toys that aren't even available yet based on purchase analysis based on perceived value.

You are blatantly stating you are upset that people are talking about the most glaring negative about the figures rather than positive things, but at the same time your attempts to attack everyone over it has generated SIGNIFICANTLY more posts about the price than there otherwise would have been.

Congratulations.

>>6036837
>its not your decision what is and isn't permisable to talk about here.
Who says I do?
All i've said is
>The majority of the people dislike the line because it's too expensive. A lot of poorfags complaining about sour grapes.
Don't like it? Well fuck, might as well stop me from saying that water is wet.

>>6036839
>You are blatantly stating you are upset
Nope. Not upset. Just stating a fact people are complaining about sour grapes.
If they have a legit complaint, good for them. I haven't said shit about that and more power to them if they don't like peg holes or whatever other complaints made. I certainly don't see a difference between pegs or having more mechanical looking pits, because they both stand out as much.

I've only been responding to people who are upset that i called them poorfags for whining about their sour grapes, who think that isnt' a legitimate argument point because it makes them feel bad that they shouldn't be called out over their sour grapes.

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>>6036864

You're the equivalent of 'lol you mad bro.'

>>6036864
>Attacks everyone citing the price as being too high
>Continues to attack them regardless of contradicting themselves
>Calls people who BOUGHT these and still think they are overpriced poorfags
>Doesn't think people should even be talking about the price because if the price were lower they wouldn't WHICH IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE PRICE BEING TOO HIGH FOR PEOPLE

This is silly.

>>6036871
again, you can do whatever you want.

Just stop crying when someone recognizes it for the sour grapes that it is.

>>6036885

How much have you invested in this shitstarter bro?

You seem awfully dedicated.

> glossy black body

> on a ninja

Wew, that's quality.

>>6036885
No one on /toy/ will high five your Abacus profile. Not even Anambla and their poorly lit sewers.

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>>6036890
>pointing that there wouldn't be so many niggling complaints in this thread if the price weren't so high is purposely causing a shitstorm
geez
sorry if pointing out what you're doing makes you so angry

shill: the thread
I watched your review, I'm even subscribed.
I respect what you accomplished.
but...
the joint system sucks.
the plastic feels worse than average mass produced american garbage.
the paint makes it look like chewing gum, way cheaper looking than a matte finish.
you shot yourself in the foot praising the molded details then admitting they hinder articulation left and right. and damn they hinder it a lot.
poseability isn't better than usual marvel stuff.
what I like:
you can mix&match parts with other figures.
as it is, I'd buy it for 15 bucks just to try something new. how much does it cost ans where can I buy one?

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are these glyos compatible with mattels wwe hero mashems? By the way, this whole set costs 25 dollars and comes with a whole two extra arms And way more extra stuff. Cant go wrong with an actually officially merchandized franchise with truly icon heroes of the ring

>>6036918
Not that anon, but I've never been angry even when I complained about this, which is even more funny considering how asspained you sound about it.

>>6036235
Pre-ordered a few, do they ever plan on making female ones? I don't want to sound like a random SJW (no really) but it'd be nice if they could provide some female additions down the line just so I can spice up my army.

>>6036954
Yep, whenever they make a 2.0 KS. Before that they were considering a potential 1.5 wave, which would have no new parts yet though, just new heads and the like.

>>6036910
They're having that fixed at the factory, they said.

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>>6036944
who said anything about angry?
Do you not know what sour grapes is?
It's all about making yourself feel better about not getting this toy by coming up with as much possible to diminish your want for it.


Speaking of want, have they shown off the accessories yet?

I've come to associate all discussion of these with either forced marketing or extremely overdefensive fans.

It's the same every time.

That alone makes me not excited about the ones I have coming.

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>>6037028
yeah

>>6037028
Again you miss the point and assume things like a racist would. I have no interest in these toys yet post here because why not. You yourself have no interest in paks and dont post in those threads because you dont want to. Do you see the connection here? Do you see why a few comments don't change how things are and calling people jealous poorfags does no favours for anyone, especially considering it scares away people on the fence who might want to buy these but get turned off by your childish ramblings and name calling someone legitimately poor but wanting to buy one as rude and uninviting?

>>6036976

ahahhahaha

Fucking hell you kickstartercucks

>>6036597
Which head is that and where can I get it?

>>6037028
>who said anything about angry?
Uhhh
>sorry if pointing out what you're doing makes you so angry
>makes you so angry
>so
>angry
That's putting aside the fact that you pretty much used that as a blanket statement meant towards the complaints in this entire thread with your greentext in mind.

>It's all about making yourself feel better about not getting this toy by coming up with as much possible to diminish your want for it.
Except not everyone's been complaining that way, and you dismiss them with "muh sour grapes" because you have nothing else to come up with beyond trying to make fun of people. Sorry to say but this thread isn't your hugbox, not everyone who complains about this is just "trying to diminish their want" for them. You'd have to be delusional or ridiculously insecure if you seriously believe that.

>>6037041
It completely goes both ways. Detractors come out of the woodworks, psycho defenders come out to meet them, and the thread just goes to hell. What the heck is all this? I don't think I've ever seen a thread with so much negativity on here. And now some are going to other threads making AI stuff look stupid. It's really best to not take /toy/ so seriously, but damn, it's pretty stupid.

>>6036547
>Fwoosh knows about /toy/

Well, if they live in some kind of cave, they wouldn't know, I admit it.

But other than that, at one hand 4chan is one of the most recognizable sites on the internet, and at the other, /toy/ is one of the few places where you can find a lot of info about every other line.

In fact, I dare to say is more likely people wouldn't know about fwoosh than /toy/. For starters, I haven't feel the need to visit that place because basically there's nothing in there I couldn't find here.

>>6037042
I mean, the actual things, more of them. Swords? Knives? Are they rubbery or what?
The video showing off the hood made me actually want one of these figures and i want to see what else is finished.

>>6037043
>Again you miss the point and assume things like a racist would.
.... so you're a racist, since you assumed there's any anger involved in any of my or others posts? wut?

>Do you see the connection here?
No, because I've bought PAKs before and stopped, mostly thanks to their shitastic paint apps, but i still followed them to see if they'd improve again. I stopped following them with the price jump.
Sorta like this thread and people following this ninja, huh? But instead of crying sour grapes because of the price, i just don't care to follow PAKs anymore.
>does no favours for anyone
Why should i care? I'm not fwoosh. I don't care if they change their mind or not or whatever the hell you think I'm trying to convince them of.
Someone asked why this thread was so negative and i pointed out it's a bunch of people making complaints over the toy because of it's price.
Pretty simple, huh? No ulterior motive.
Just me making a point blank statement, and people like you continue trying to blow it up because waaah

>>6037093
I knew about 4chan, not really about /toy/. Only after a while I looked it up after all the new pics from conventions showed up here first. 4chan also has a pretty shit reputation, so I wouldn't be surprised if some avoided it just for that reason.

>>6037104

Lots of us are making fun of the figure for looking like shit though

The price just makes it even more hilarious.

>>6037104
Not sure what you're asking about the weapons, but they're hard plastic.

>>6037108

No they aren't, watch the video.

>>6037104
>Why should i care? I'm not fwoosh.
For someone who doesn't care, you sure love policing this thread while saying that everyone making fun of the figures have simply been "priced out" of buying them. Then you move your argument to "sour grapes" when you realized that not everyone's a poorfag here. Good job.

>>6037106
Exactly this, especially when you consider how the first few comments on this thread were anons just laughing at these figures.

>>6037091
>muh negativity
are you fucking new?

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Grapesposter BTFO

>>6037117
>you sure love policing this thread
Nope, because I'd be arguing or defending the toy.
Instead, 99.999% of my posts are in response to you guys having a problem with me pointing out that the majority of the complaints were over the price.

>Then you move your argument to "sour grapes" when you realized that not everyone's a poorfag here
Shows that you can't follow shit.
It's always been about sour grapes and poorfags since post one >>6036610
>The majority of the people dislike the line because it's too expensive. A lot of poorfags complaining about sour grapes.

>>6037132
So wait, that was your first post? So you never really changed arguments and you were actually butt-blasted about other posters since the beginning? Wow, shows what I know huh.

Funny you'd mention how people are crying over your comment when they simply called you out about being priced out of these figures. And then the following damage control you've conducted ever since by dropping the poorfag comment and just constantly yelling out "SOUR GRAPES" is nothing short of amazing.

All for a line that you barely even care about? Damn, /toy/ never fails to entertain.

>>6037116
They are... he explicitly says so in the video around 5:30. Having some give to thin plastic doesn't make it rubber, which he also explicitly mentions is not the case.

>>6037132
>people dislike shitty looking action figires because they are poor

ITT buyers remorse /the kickstartsr

>>6037118
Are you a fucking retard? Negativity was one aspect. The two sides that have made this thread grow really fast for this board are what I'm talking about.

>>6037159
If this shit cant hold its weight in other threads or be taken seriously by anyone here its in way over its head and out of its league when compared to glorious 4 horsemen stuff

>>6037157
>people dislike shitty looking action figires because they are poor
Kek. It's funny because most of the initial comments were making fun of the QUALITY vs price discrepancy with the cringey bios as the cherry on top.

>>6036458
Underrated

>>6037149
>answering a guy on why the thread is so negative means buttblasted
So what's it called where you have to make things up about someone you're arguing with to feel better about yourself or position?

I don't even understand the rest of your post
> they simply called you out about being priced out of these figures.
... do you not know what sour grapes means? They got priced out, thus: sour grapes = diminishing your want for something by being overly negative.
Again, as pointed out, the majority of the negative remarks in this thread wouldn't be if the figures were priced like an M... i mean, WHAT?! I'm really confused on what you mean about what "they called me out" about.

Also, i don't see how i dropped anything from my original stance. Care to point it out? Or do you think I should always reference my original post at all times?
I mean, it shouldbe obvious that being priced out of buying the toys and being all sour grapes about it afterward implies poorfagness forever.

>>6037181
>I don't even understand the rest of your post

Must be hard living with brain damage

>>6037181
You were constantly insisting that people here were poorfags "hence sour grapes" when other posters utterly proved you wrong which is something that you still can't seem grasp with how many people here regularly buy expensive shit.

Afterwards you had nothing to fall back on but your sour grapes argument, which doesn't even make sense when majority of the posts here were making fun of the QUALITY with these figures and their bios in lieu of their asking price.

>being all sour grapes about it afterward implies poorfagness forever.
HAHAHAHAHHA HE STILL DOESN'T GET IT

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>>6037181
>Anon: I think $25 for a tuna sandwich is a bit too much. Nah, I'll just pass.
>Not(Fwoosh): LOL, U poorfag!
>Anon: C'mon, is just canned tuna, canned vegetables, and regular wal-mart bread loaf, I could buy two or three burgers for that much.
>Not(Fwoosh): It shouldbe obvious that being priced out of buying the tuna sandwich and being all sour grapes about it afterward implies poorfagness forever.

>>6037199
He's pretty much baiting at this point. I suppose the local janitor will deleted this shit thread in a couple hours or even faster.

I'm looking forward to the figures I ordered since I love ninjas so much, and this was the best way to get an almost correct Stormshadow and Snakeyes in the 6inch scale. Will be fun displaying Ninjas vs whatever other lines as well.

wow this is still going on?

>>6037199
>Afterwards you had nothing to fall back on
.... but that never happened.
Where did you think that ever happened? Link to post.
>hich doesn't even make sense when majority of the posts here were making fun of the QUALITY with these figures
I linked to all the posts complaining about the price.

>>6037210
It's more like
::group enters restaurant::
>Anon1: Your tuna sandwiches aren't worth $25 but i will surely pay you $15 tuesday.
>Anon2: The sandwich shop down the street sells chicken sandwiches for $5 and they're so much better than tuna sandwiches i've never eaten here
>Anon3: Geez, the tuna sandwiches are shit for $25
>Anon4: ew for $25 youd think they'd advertise the tuna sandwiches as good as McDonalds
>Anon5: I would pay $10 for these tuna sandwiches, but not $25
>Anon6: Hey do they have a dollar menu here?
>Anon7: LOL WHY WOULD I PAY $25 FOR PREMIUM TUNA SANDWICHES WHEN I CAN GET ONE AT SUBWAY FOR LESS?
>Anon8: The Tuna sandwiches from Pizza Hut are way better and they're so much better made and cost less too
>anonymous-restaurant-regular-who-must-be-a-plant: What's with this lunch crowd? All they've done is complain since they got here 2 hours ago. It wasn't like this last time i came here
>anonymous-plant-two-because-no-one-likes-tuna: it's just a bunch of kids with no money who hope someone here will take pity on them and hand them a sandwich for free
>ANONS1-234: WTF DID YOU SAY TO ME!?! YOUR SANDWICHES ARE SHIT THER SO GROSS ILL HAVE YOU KNOW MY DAD IS RICH I DIDNT WANT YOUR TERRIBLE SANDWICHES ANYWAY MUH FREE SPEECH STOP OPPRESSING ME SANDWICHES AER SHIT
>anonymous-plant-two: you haven't even tried them, and mcdonalds and pizza hut don't even sell tuna
>ANONS5-678: LOL U RETARD WERE JUST HERE TO LAUGH AT YOU AND DONT WANT ANY SHITTY TUNA SANDWICHES ANYWAY
::curtain on "Not Sour Grapes" by the Member Berries::

>>6037299

$50 marvel legends

>>6037308
Does it really cost $50?

Not like that'll stop me if i do decide to buy one. I've paid double and triple for older toys just because i want them, despite the current waves prices. Or it's like buying exclusives.

I'll pay up for the character/design, not for what it's value or worth is.

It's part of the hobby.

>>6037328

The character design is about as bland and generic as it gets.

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>>6036235
Might I suggest a better ninja?

>>6037383
Looks like an EVA unit 01 ninja. Pretty cool.

It's amazing that the entire thread shifted to whether or not someone is a poorfag, which completely sidesteps conversation of the figure itself. If there were ever a /toy/ tradition, you're looking at it.

>box looks like shit for a "collector grade" figure
>shitty headsculpt for the unmasked old guy
>had a hand in making these, but doesn't know what a kunai is
>said he won't be biased, proceeds to be biased
holy shit fwoosh
I'll admit the articulation is better than some MLshit, but doesn't justify the price. They could've easily not include the shitty display stand

Subjectanon is probably the faggot shilling these.

>>6037440
Yup it's him. Unless I'm mistaken, he admitted to it last time, or at least people caught onto his autism and then he proceeded to sperg over the fact that no one would take him seriously the moment that everyone found out.

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>>6037458
I bet subjectanon is a qt

>>6037458
Everyone should take sour grapes seriously?

>>6037460
I heard he's a wannabe tranny.

So he tried/10, I guess?

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>>6036462
You're right, it's impossible to make a truly high-quality ninja figure with a ton of accessories for around $45.

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>>6037476
Totally impossible.

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>>6037478
Absolutely no way they could produce a deluxe figure set with tons of accessories for less than $80 either.

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>>6037476
>>6037478
These don't look that good, desu.

>>6037476
>>6037478
>>6037482
The Feudal Series blew up because people wanted traditional Ninja's.

>>6037483
Guess I'll have to dig mine out and take some pictures then, because they're among the best things Figma have ever made. Prior to the anime happening they were dirt-cheap too, I picked up regular Ninja Slayer and Hattori Hanzo for ¥3000 each.

>>6037484
Then why are they taller than a marvel legends wolverine? Asians are shorts

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>>6037478
>>6037476
Quality injas with a ton of accessories only cost $8.

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>>6037484
Is that why half of them are thinly-veiled knockoffs of Strider, the Mortal Kombat ninjas, Silver Samurai, Call of Duty characters, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, etc?

I really want to like the Feudal Series but looking at the in-hand "quality" I'm glad I got cold feet about pitching into the Kickstarter. Nice ideas, mediocre execution. They aren't much less stylised than the Ninja Slayer figures either, honestly. They're closer to the Shinobi splash art than anything historically accurate.

Also, pic related in figure form when?

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>>6037487
Because the best ninjas are white.

>>6037491
Wait for Feudal Series 1.5, there will be tons of new varieties including Female ninja's. This is just what I've heard throughout their podcast though.

>>6037491
>They're closer to the Shinobi splash art than anything historically accurate.
This. Some idiot in one of the previous threads was saying how these were the result of Japan never making figures of their own culture and Americans taking a crack at it.

Japanese culture my ass, these figures are literally American caricatures of what the normalfags think ninja and samurai looked like. It's literally a Mortal Kombat-lite without a brand name to back it up.

>>6037491
>They aren't much less stylised than the Ninja Slayer
You realize that his legs are longer than his torso and the head is pretty small, right?
It's a very obvious cartoon ninja.

>>6037499
Stylisation doesn't just refer to proportions, see >>6037497

>>6037499
I think anon was referring to the fact that the figures aren't any less stylized than the Ninja Slayer figure in terms of subject matter, given how they play into the same typical ninja stereotype like the ones seen in MK.

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Speaking of caricatured ninja and samurai, I'd kill for an entire modern lineup of Onimusha figures. I know McFarlane made a number of figures based on the 2nd game, but aside from a few figures, the whole thing desperately needs a modern upgrade in figures.

I always loved how the series took proper Feudal Japan aesthetics and dialed it up to near-fantasy levels without going overboard, 4th game aside. Little details like the 2nd game's main character (pic-related) wearing a samurai warcoat as a sign of his royal status are exactly the kinds of trivial details I'm talking about that these figures sorely need (at least the non-army building "special ones" anyway). Even the demonic creatures you fight in the game derive from a mix of Japanese folklore, using stuff like oni and youkai for the basis of their designs. Heck, the main antagonist Nobunaga wears Western-inspired armor based on the rumored notion that he surrounded himself with Western items and may have even owned some Western armor himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgWHhYM0p1U

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>>6037502
>>6037502
oh, well its still totaly wrong then

real historical action figures coming through

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>>6037528

Alright SourGrapes. Since you like food so much, how about an analogy to compare legitimate complaints.

Suppose people working at McDonald's decide to start their own burger joint. They come up with amounts to a McDouble, but with an extra slice of pickle and cheese. Then They price it the same as a burger from Red Robin (about $8). Would it still be sour grapes if people complained that they are paying way too much for way too little?

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>this fucking thread

>>6037492
>every Chinaman is a basketball player

>>6036235
god damn ive been waiting forever for these things

my first kickstarter, got black ninja white ninja blue ninja and 2 arm packs. now, a year later, I really wish I got the red ninja too. depending on finances I may snag one before it's too late

i knew from others stories that kickstarters (and limited run toys in general) can take forever to follow through and deliver, but holy shit. I was hoping to have the figures by september at the absolute latest

>>6036262
while I agree with this- i still had to have them becuase there's not really a decent lineup of ninja action figures to pick from, especially "regular" ninjas without some kind of special standout design

>>6037715
They were selling post kickstarter preorders under the claim they would ship last spring.

They have not been good about their estimates.

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>>6036235
What did he mean by this?

>>6038188
>Paying attention to anything ACBA staff say
They are so far up their own sphincters they've come back out the top again and gone back for another pass.

They are genuinely unreasonable to a ridiculous extent.

Are these preorder only? Is there a preorder deadline?

>>6038257
Pre-order deadline is December 31st.

>>6037613
Do you know what sour grapes is?

All it means is that you like something, but it's priced out of your reach, and then you start coming up with reasons to diminish your like/want for it.
That's sour grapes.

So when someone complains it's not worth it's price, because it's only as good as an ML, when it's actually better, that's sour grapes.

It's a very simple concept, but the butthurt is rampant over this. Sure, if your complaint is just the price, that's not sour grapes. When you add onto it by saying it's only as good as an ML or be worse than what's been shown, it's nothing but sour grapes and has been a common complaint.

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These things can't even two-hand a sword, utter fucking failure.

>>6038473
You're basing that on this image? Well whatever, they've shown sufficient inward motion to hold a sword with both hands, and even in that pic you can tell there's still a fair bit of room that both arms can be brought inwards.

>>6038473
>advertised as super poseable
>gives them the shittiest pose
>can't double hand grip
S U P E R
P O S E A B L E
C O L L E C T O R
F I G U R E S

>>6037383
what's that? Looks cool

>>6038826
Figma Dark Ninja from the Ninja Slayer anime, just went up for preorder

So something I don't get is...why all the hate for Marvel Legends. I just grabbed the X-men wave and for the most part they're all pretty fantastic. Figma, Revols and Figuarts are all nice in their own right, but they each have their flaws like ML. Marvel Legends may not have the same range of articulation as some figures from other lines, but they still have great amounts of functional articulation, great sculpts and decent paints. The fact these ninjas have similar joint set ups is fine by me because it means they can pretty much pose however I'll need them to pose.

As for the high price...that's kind of standard with KS figures. I will admit, the basic Ninjas shouldn't have been as expensive as they were, as that defeats the point of em. But 30-40 bucks for a fully painted deluxe figure with tons of gear is fairly standard. Hell, BFS HACKs figures were $30 individually and they're half the size and 4H's birds were the same price as the basic ninjas with less parts and accessories (but far more paint).

The back stories are....there. They're not important and easily ignored, but the idea of having generic stereotypical ninja, samurai and such is still great. The ball joint wrist is a surprising and nice touch (I wish both ML and ML used those wrists!) though the shiny plastic is meh. Hopefully that does get fixed, because if not it would be fairly disappointing.

Overall, these guys are certainly overpriced and not for everyone but they're no where near as bad as all the complaints make them seem.

>>6036926
The pegs are totally different and much larger then Glyos stuff. I got that got for $10 bucks...and that's about as much as I'd be willing to pay for him. Fairly basic articulation, almost no paint, soft sculpt work and some very cheap feeling plastic and accessories.

All that said, for 10 bucks, he was totally worth it. Makes a great giant grunt for 1:12th figures to beat on.

>>6039765
>So something I don't get is...why all the hate for Marvel Legends
Let's see...crappy QC, re-used sculpts, painted on parts that should be sculpted, re-used accessories and some characters get less hip range than big muscle men despite being more agile characters. For the price they are a god damned rip off. Look at what NECA is releasing for a similar price and tell me Marvel Legends is good. Don't even try to compare them to imports. Imports may not be perfect but they get unique sculpts, good articulation and a great spread of accessories.

I do agree KS toys tend to be more expensive but at least the 4H are offering interesting ideas to justify it. These are just some generic ninja and if you want to pay import prices for them you're certainly free to do so. I won't judge or criticize you for it but I sure as hell didn't invest in them.

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>>6039773
>generic ideas cost less than slightly less generic ideas
lol
I bet you think this cost a lot to make and that makes it worth a million dollars.

>>6038351
I didn't mention anything at all of sour grapes other than to identify some anon (you) with a specific name. You failed to articulate how my analogy is at all misleading or false.

These ninjas are essentially ML with a few extra things like a fancy stand and some more accessories, but are overall built the same as ML. That doesn't warrant pricing these at double that of a ML.

Making McDoubles, adding extra toppings, then over charging for it as if it were of higher quality.

That's not sour fucking grapes. I'm not complaining because I can't afford the Damn thing. I'm complaining because it isn't worth the asking price, comparatively.

>>6039796
Are you clinically retarded or is your mastery of the English language just so poor you have zero reading comprehension? 4H is overpriced too. The difference is they are offering ideas never seen before in figure form and so someone is more likely to justify the price in their own mind.

There is no shortage of ninja themed figures out there. There is a shortage of bird people based on all kinds of rare or interesting birds.

>>6036235
I spent over 100 dollars for THREE of these trashy looking shit figures...God kill me. Should of bought the samurai ones not the ninjas. At least they have more going on when it comes to detail.

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>>6039796
>armored birds with weapons is generic
Can I see these other bird people figures that aren't made by 4H?

>>6039765
Legends are fun figures. They're the only way to get many characters from comics that otherwise would NEVER get figures, or only movie versions of them, along with pumping them out at a steady pace. I started collecting with them and love them. Don't get me wrong, there are some I buy to finish a BAF and think "why did I buy this" later on, but I also think that about many of my import figures. I think it just comes down to taste and what people prefer.

To hit on the reuse sculpts, in comics most of the time several characters all look the same so it doesn't bother me a ton. Sure, I wish that they had more sculpted details, better paint, whatever. I'm never going to compare my 20 dollar (Or more recently my 12 dollar each) marvel legends figures to something like an SHF because of the huge price difference between the two.

>>6039854
I now realize this is not a legends thread. Disregard most of the shit I just typed.

Honestly, I put quite a bit of cash into these because I love the ninja idea. Liked the swappable parts idea, the slight (or not so) nods to characters like snake eyes and stormshadow. However, after seeing the fwoosh review I see tons of issues that you'd normally see on a legends. The Old master head had hair that wasn't properly painted, for one thing. I hope they turn out a bit better, but overall I do think they were a bit pricey, and after such a long time, and seeing some mythic legions figures for a similar price, I wish I had been able to back those ones a bit and hold back on these aside from a few figures.

>>6039773
>crappy QC
Ok right there I know you're full of it because after buying a fair amount of Marvel Legends I can say the QC on them is pretty solid. Out of like 20+ of em, only one or two have any actual flaws. I have more Figma and Figuarts with QC issues then Marvel Legends.

>re-used sculpts
Not really that big of an issue if there's enough parts in circulation. If it means getting fun D-listers among the popular A-listers, then that's all the better.

>painted on parts that should be sculpted
Fair enough

>re-used accessories
Eh, matter of opinion. Though limited accessories is a major issue.

>some characters get less hip range than big muscle men despite being more agile characters.
THIS is definitely a problem and a stupid one at that. The inconsistent articulation is actually one of my biggest pet peeves of the line. Butterfly joints should be universal, not on specific figures and I feel the hinged ab crunch on most males is terrible compared to the superior upper torso ball joint the females use.

>For the price they are a god damned rip off. Look at what NECA is releasing for a similar price and tell me Marvel Legends is good.
Compared to my Neca figures...yea ML are pretty good. My Succubus can't stand, Alucard is barely articulated, Gypsy Danger feels super fragile and Nova is full of problems, though Arthas is pretty cool. I like my Neca stuff, but lets not pretend they're not without issues.

>I do agree KS toys tend to be more expensive but at least the 4H are offering interesting ideas to justify it. These are just some generic ninja

The 4H literally made the most generic fantasy figures they could, ripping ideas right out of old D&D artwork. They're beautiful and fun toys, and I'm eager to get more, but the Legions are no less generic then the Ninja.

>>6039897
Come on man, these people are entitled to their opinion, they can say what they want, and the trolls will look like jackasses, but you're making the actual fans of these, as well as the Fwoosh (though anyone who thinks you have anything to do with them is probably not too bright) look bad. Just don't worry about naysayers. Feel free to stop misinformation, but you don't need to project with the sour grapes and all that.

>>6036606
Hugh Jackman is known for famously being too tall to really be an accurate Wolverine; most people overlook it for his look, voice & perfornance but Wolverine in the comics is literally like 4'10" or some shit

>>6037531
This looks neat. Where can I get one from?

>>6039815
>You failed to articulate how my analogy is at all misleading or false.
But i explained how it's sour grapes and your analogy isn't. You're missing the part of the actual complaints in this thread that makes it sour grapes.
It's people saying "I didn't want it anyway because it's as bad as an ML" or that some other company makes it better (read: no other company has made better generic ninjas), ontop of complaining about the price.
Or see hungry poor teens entering restaurant wanting tuna sandwich >>6037299

Take this guy for example
>>6039773
Just so you know, it's more expensive to make quality generic stuff than it is to make something based on a character. Why? Fewer people are willing to pay up for a figure that's not based on some important character or anything but the idea of a role.
Some people want faceless figures that show how special actual character figures are. It's an army builder and you can go look at how expensive other quality army builders. It's a niche product, which raises the cost by low demand.

Of course, all this is thrown out the window when a company like Hasbro actually makes army builders, but all their stuff are based on their own properties and have names.

>>6040116
Unimax's failed line, because generic shit doesn't sell well. Have fun searching, because it's rare. It probably has no demand, so if one ever turns up, it'll go for cheap.

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>Got Nico on black Friday for 15 GBP and comes with an extra glow in the dark arm

How was everyone else's weekend? =3

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>>6039816
>There is no shortage of ninja themed figures out there. There is a shortage of bird people based on all kinds of rare or interesting birds.
Missing the point.
Who are you to say that one is more justified than the other?
With both lines, they're obviously been funded by people who want the product. The demand is there for both.
Neither idea is worth more than the other, unless you agree that the prices they go for proves their actual worth.
IB4 popularity proves their worth, in which case: does that mean the Toyota Corolla is worth more than a Ferrari just because Toyota sells over a million more Corollas every single year? Or inversely, does the Fwoosh Ninja prove its worth $50 because it was sold at that price or like that million dollar urinal?

Nah, in fact, because that ninja is people actually ask for all the time, does that mean it's more justified? Arguably, yes. How many people have ever asked for anthropomorphic fantasy bird warriors? I'm sure there's a fantasy thread somewhere of some obscure fantasy book that got all of two posts wishing for some.

People want generic shit to fit in with their own collections. A "neutral" realistically sculpted toy is more likely to fit in with more things than the dozens of other stylized ninjas you're thinking about. There are like two or one options for people to buy such a figure, and it's severely lacking compared to Fwoosh's and costs just as much.

I'm a firm believer that anything can be justified and worth it, because it really comes down to what you yourself want. I know a lot of things i buy are overpriced, but what am i going to do? It's either get it or not. I won't buy anything that i know will get a hundred thousand reiterations though, if it doesn't meet my criteria. This is why i didn't bother to back the Fwoosh Ninja in the first place. Seeing this review is making me change my mind, because as a standalone figure, it looks really well done.

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Honestly, really excited to get this guy. The mask was the sell to me.

>>6040129
Except that most complaints were that for the price being charged, people are not getting enough out of the figure. They would rather 2 ML than one generic ninja, because that's the price range we're looking at. You just said everyone had sour grapes from the get go because of it. It was always that the price is too high for what they're getting.

Imports got brought in for a comparatively priced figure, but have way more to offer in quality, like detail in sculpt and paint apps. With similar pricing, imports are considered better, some of which are still cheaper than these ninjas.

The only part where my burger analogy failed is to bring up alternatives. Which would be simple enough. The problem with the tuna is that it seems to ignore that the other tuna places serve the same tuna, just on a different bread. Instead, chicken, McDonald's, and Pizza Hut are brought, none of which offer a similar comparison except maybe chicken salad (I dont think you meant this).

And yeah, I get why these are more expensive. Kickstarters are going to be pricier because they have higher overhead costs and cater to a niche collection. That doesn't make these in any way a good investment.

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>>6037495
Ja...gute...gute..

>>6040433

How much is that and the Hitler figure?

>>6040372
HOLY SHIT i want this
im not even inside of this thread-just seeing this on the front page.
What is this
how much this will be? not released yet?

>>6040688
It was part of the original kickstarter which ended over a year ago.

You can pre-order him here for more money.

https://articulated-icons-the-feudal-series-ninja-action-f.backerkit.com/overlay_preorders

>>6039816
>4H is overpriced too. The difference is they are offering ideas never seen before in figure form and so someone is more likely to justify the price in their own mind.

I love my 4H guys, but generic Knights and Orcs aren't exactly original. But I'm not into em cause of originality, I'm into em because they're awesome.

>There is no shortage of ninja themed figures out there.

The only 6" scaled generic Ninja I know of is the Marvel Legends Hand Ninja which goes for stupid prices nowadays. Ninja Slayer is cool, but he's tiny, not very generic and costs more then the Fwoosh Ninja anyway. There's plenty of 3"3/4 ninja because G.I. Joe was like 60% ninja toys for a few years, but they don't really fit with 6" collections.

Where are all these awesome, generic, fully articulated cheap 6" Ninja because I would love to have more grunts for Wolvie and Iron Fist to whallop on.

>>6040205
Wrong thread, but I gotta agree Nico is a little ball of fantastic. The magic arm and effect are nice extras and she really pulls off the whole teen goth witch look.

>>6040947
Jesus christ...

>>>6040415 Except that most complaints were that for the price being charged
Dude, no. Look at all the posts referenced here >>6036636 . Almost all of them are sour grapes, making inane comparisons or ignoring various qualities on why it costs so much more.
There's been more sour grapes since then as well, like >>6036731 and a lot more.

> but have way more to offer in quality, like detail in sculpt and paint apps
There was ONE figure mentioned and it isn't better quality in terms of sculpt, it's just different. Cartoon main character vs generic realistic. What details and paints that are there, neither looks better over the other. You may prefer one style, but there really doesn't seem to be an objective difference.
>imports are considered better
Only because it's cheaper or weeaboo opinion.
>my burger analogy failed is to bring up alternatives.
No, it failed because it didn't actually acknowledge the fact that there's a lot of sour grapes. Again, people WANT this figure, and are making things up or being extra nitpicky to diminish their want for it. So if other places have different bread (cartoon style ninja), they're still wanting the tuna on bread (realistic) from this restaurant. This thread is the restaurant. The people complaining are inside this restaurant complaining about the price, yet don't want to leave for some raisin.
Or rather, for some half-way between a grape and raisin reason that is very tart and acrid.

And i don't think the ML ninja is even an option. It costs nearly as much now and doesn't have as much articulation or accessories.

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>>6036503
Best Ninja is Rikimaru

>>6040947
that looks really unappealingly glossy

>>6042089
DON'T WORRY THOUGH, THEY PUT THAT IN THE NOTES TO THE FACTORY!! ALL WILL BE FIXED!!!

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Think these are just ML ripoffs? Get your ML to do THIS!

>>6042574
Didn't know this thread turned into a shitty posing one.

>>6041783
Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I think that no matter how badly these turn out, no one's gonna say anything, cause everyone's either gonna want to kiss ass or they'll have to justify spending the money. No one will admit that these are lackluster.

>>6042574
This. People don't realize these have Figuarts joints. Don't get why they compare them to a ML when Feudal Series have better articulation.

>>6042622
>People don't realize these have Figuarts joints.
>Figuarts joints

Is this a meme at this point?

>>6042644
They have them in the wrist but it's all the defence force has to say at this point so just let them have it

>>6042574
Just tried this with the very same ML that is in that pic and he can pull off a one leg kick with his arms posed just as shitty almost perfectly.
Only problem is the body has a problem with the ball joints in the hips that stops it from going that far out

>>6042715
>Only problem is the body has a problem with the ball joints in the hips that stops it from going that far out

I'm pretty sure that's what the point of that post was. Thus a lot of modern ML's can't do that. Those with big ball joints attached to their hips can though.

>>6042718
I can't personally prove anything since the only ML I own is Iron Fist but I've heard that the teenage male body they made last year fixed the hip problem

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>>6042715
The older ML hip style is superior.
Even these clunkers are able to get poses like that by just moving the joint around.

>>6043372
Superior in range but not necessarily appearance. Though sometimes the floating meat of the thigh swivel of the modern ML does look pretty bad.

>>6042694
>they have them in the wrist

Mcfarlane has been doing them for decases with Halo too anon. Are you high? A lot of asian and american companies use them

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guys look! The wrists use figma joints! FIGUARTS JOINTS

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>>6043399
> Though sometimes the floating meat of the thigh swivel of the modern ML does look pretty bad.
>sometimes
That's that special keyword.
Usually original bodies look great, it's when they cheap out and do a redeco or retool is when it looks bad. And most retools don't look good in the first place, so it's an easy pass.
So getting that original freshly tooled figure is well worth it for these types of joints.

>>6043407
I know that anon I'm saying that's the only joint they have in common but the people who like them have been clinging to it since the beginning

>>6043407
The wrist joint they use has been around for years, hell Revoltech did it before Figuarts.

>>6043458
Those types of leg joints never look good on a non-robotic character. And even on robots, they're atrociously annoying to work well. Mythic Legions have easily the best hip joints as they offer a full range of motion with no fiddliness. Though the ones on the Ninjas do look good too.

Also, that's the 4" Deadpool, the 6" ones hips are still bad, but not as terrible, though his harness and accessories are nicer.

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>>6043881
>hell Revoltech did it before Figuarts
I think he was saying McFarlane was doing it decades before, which is an exggeration, but they were using it at least as long as Revoltech, if not before.

>that's the 4" Deadpool
I know, and if it can look good on 4" figures, there's no reason it can't on larger scales.
Toy Biz only made it look as bad as it was because they were still experimenting with their joints.
By the end, they pretty much perfected it.
> they're atrociously annoying to work well
I never understood this. You just put it at an angle and then use the leg to bend it to your liking.
Only time it ever sucks is if the joint is stuck, but you know how to unstick them, right?

>>6036864
>Just stating a fact people are complaining about sour grapes.

I can pay $50 for a figure if I want it. That doesn't mean I don't take into consideration value for money spent. And looking at these, I would question purchase at this price. For about $20 I would see a greater value.

It doesn't mean I can't afford it, it means I don't think there's value at the set price.

The only way you can't understand that there is nuance there is if you're autistic.

>>6037328
>I'll pay up for the character/design, not for what it's value or worth is.

You're literally making a value judgement here.

For you the character or design enhances the value of a figure enough that you would pay $X for it.

Then you're turning around and saying that any one other person's value judgement can't exist and they aren't buying it because "muh sour grapes".

>>6044486
I'm well aware of how to pose legs with those joints, I just feel it's a) annoying to mess with and b) never looks good.

While it's certainly a matter of opinion, if you were using the Deadpool of an example of that joint style looking 'good' then I wasn't aware because to me it just looks ugly. Robots can pull it off because exposed joints are kind of a robots things, but on fleshies, the top of the leg turning into a ball is just ugly imo. There's no reason for it when you can just do a full leg with a thigh swivel and pin disc hip.

Some Revoltechs can sort of pull it off, but they use a much smaller joint and hide it between the thigh and hip molding. It has the same (annoying) form of articulation, but hiding the joint leaves the figure with a much better, more natural aesthetic.

>>6044645
> I would question purchase at this price. For about $20 I would see a greater value.

As someone who backed these Ninjas, I can completely understand this line of thinking. These guys ARE expensive, prohibitively so. IMO, the issues stems from the fact that their value isn't fully reflected in the figure itself, especially when compared to other mass market figures.

But by their nature of being KS figures, they're going to carry a higher cost then what a comparative figure would. Their limited run numbers and production costs, all from a start up company using outsourced designers, add to the figures final price. While some may not be as bothered to take those factors into account, many people will not be as willing to fork out extra cash due to these unseen issues.

Personally, I have no qualms with people saying they're "not worth the price", because to many, these guys just aren't. I do take issue with complaints about the figure's quality, articulation and overall look, because to me, the latter two are both top notch and exactly what I was hoping for and the former is looking good from all initial reports.

>>6044811
I agree that they look good, even if I don't really care for the modern ninja. I've contemplated picking up two of the guys in Gis just so I can have one Seoi Nage the other one on my desk, but I'm on the fence still.

>>6044656
>You're literally making a value judgement here.
No shit?
>saying that any one other person's value judgement can't exist
I'm not saying that at all.
I'm just saying what they're doing when trying to nitpick it or devalue its features, it's sour grapes.
Again, it's a very simple concept, but you guys just don't want to admit to being bitter. The more you even do this just shows how sour you guys are, because you can't let go over how you're perceived by your whiny attitude over this toy.

If you had simply said "don't want for blahblahblah reasons" and just shut up, that'd be the end of it. Instead, to continue the analogy, you're picketing the restaurant about how the food is bad, despite the fact you want it.

Again, you guys are only demeaning yourselves by claiming they're no better than an ML, proving it's only sour grapes.

>>6044645
>The only way you can't understand that there is nuance there is if you're autistic.
NAh, you just can't read because you're getting your butt inflamed.
As i said before: >>6038351 Sure, if your complaint is just the price, that's not sour grapes
But it obviously isn't just this, huh? You obviously have to have something else against it and why you're applying what i said about sour grapes to you.

new karate guy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjRFiFdxLEA

>>6047676
...how hard is it to read the bio and do 2 minutes of googling to find out a weapon/accessories real name?

The figure looks nice, but this guy just irks me as a reviewer.

>>6047759
I don't think he actually doesn't know. He's had a hand in the creation of these figures after all. It does seem odd that he did it that way. Though the only thing that doesn't come with Shoken here are those so called Kung Fu hands, as if those initial layouts are to be believed they are exclusive to Seijun in his monk garb.

>>6047676
Well that looks awful. And despite what he says, the gi looks to be very restrictive. That hair is also fucking absurd, but I guess it's an homage to 80s action heroes? I dunno

>>6047807
I think it looks quite good. The hair is disheveled and an homage to a specific character I believe who's name eludes me at the moment. The gi doesn't look very restrictive, stops like a cm of movement at most. Sculpt and articulation look good from what I can tell. I think if the pain detailing was a bit more subtle it'd look a bit better though.

>>6037490
>for ants

>>6047783
TONFAS

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>>6047783
He specifically said he doesn't know the names of some very common ninja weapons or the bio of Shoken. It's a small issue and honestly doesn't really affect the figure review as a whole. It's just annoying when someone is telling you about something, but they don't actually know the details about the thing they're telling you about.

>>6047832
His head is thought to be based on Jubei Kibagami from Ninja Scroll, a classic 90s anime. Essentially if you take Shoken's head and throw it on the drunk monk's body, you have yourself a pretty good approximation of Jubei in a 6" scale. All he'd need would be a sword and the hat.

I was tempted to build this myself, but I couldn't really figure out any other use for Shoken's body as a whole as I'm not particularly fond of basic karate guys.

I kinda want to get two so I can mishmash the parts into a Tengu/Oni warrior while making some random old master out of the leftovers but I'm just wondering, do they charge you instantly for the pre-orders or is there an allotted deadline as to when they'll charge customers?

Who here Devoted Legion?

>Loved the way they're looking
>Will finally have tons of different ninja with a bunch of side accessories I can use for other figures
>All that mixing and matching I can do
Even if the armored ones are fucking statues they're going to look cool.

>>6048895
Not devoted, sadly. However. I did back $150 into the project for 2 Karate guys and the Exclusive. If you sell 1 of each color (Black, Red, White) basic ninja's in the future hit me up

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are these glyos compatible? Serious by the way as I want a few to have skeleton arms

>>6049053
That might be too thick. Can't say for sure, but you can always ask them on whatever source.

>>6048895
Not devoted proper, but I did do $550 so I could get the bonus figures.

Can we all please just ignore the dumbass with the grape fetish? None of his posts make any sense and all he does is piss people off, regardless of whether they bought the Ninja or not.

>>6048895
I couldn't go all in on the 4H's KS, nor could I do that for this one. I did manage to get a nice mix of characters though, Though I do kinda wish their cheaper Samurai option wasn't the silver one, I prefer my troop builders to be a bit less...auspicious looking. I also wish they sold a head back or something as I wanted to do some headswaps, but didn't wanna buy whole characters to accomplish them.

Also, I doubt the Samurai will be that hampered in their articulation. The biggest impacted joint will certainly be the ab crunch, but it should get enough range to look good under the armor.