Transformers General /tfg/ "RUIN THE NATION" edition

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Still surprised they "retooled" blastoff

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Yes, I'm actually exciting blastoff has been "fixed".

I own a g2 bruticus and I'm gonna use him instead, the fact this redeco counts as a bunch of new guys works for my headcannon

>>5986776
did they? Just looks like his torso is turned around.

>>5986781
Exactly.

On UW blastoff you can do that but his hands remain backwards, hence "retooled", all for the same of no backwards hands

>>5986774
>>5986776
He looks nice, but not 190 dollars nice.

I am wondering if some group will do KO's of those hands and feet. How decent are they for those that got Hasbro Computron?

>>5986785
About the same level of articulation as victorion's hands and feet, if anything those hands look like they wouldn't take shockwave's gun port connectors

>>5986783
Oh sweet, definitely looking forward to these guys.

>>5986787
Didn't get Victorion either. How are they?

>>5986787
They do, they have an extra hole just to accommodate him.

>>5986791
They're "ok", for me I found the articulation they offer pointless

>too front heavy so kept falling over
>hollow feet meant no real surface grip
>Extreme poses forced the ratchets to click unexpectedly

But that was my hasbro victorion bare in mind, mileage may differ, I honestly found I could do the same stuff with the regular hfg's, they just didn't look at natural

>>5986795
Well shit, never noticed that

>>5986796
>Well shit, never noticed that

Yeah, it's pretty weird since Computron doesn't have Shockwave as part of the set, and the fact they did that for a single figure is pretty weird.

>>5986774
What I'm most annoyed by is the fact that this set gets a bunch of guns while the original bruticus set got no extra guns whatsoever

>>5986807
They literally used guns from two different Unite Warrior figures. It's not much of an accomplishment.

>>5986796
>They're "ok", for me I found the articulation they offer pointless

Well that sucks. I've never been a fan of PE stuff, their products always clash too hard with Hasbro figures, and I'm also not a fan of the hands and feet also doubling as guns.

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>>5986774
>>5986776
I do like the set, but I'm kinda disappointed that these are the warriors Unicron was bringing in.

Also, will it really sell that well? Japs will probably get it since they only have UW Bruticus, but the rest of us could already choose between UW, CW and G2.

>>5986818
That's why its a UW-EX release, limited numbers, intended for the japanese market.

And nothing is stopping the japanese from getting our sets since they can buy online as well, it makes me laugh when I find cw figures on mandarake

Aww sick, PC already has preorders up and it's only 150AUD, fucking bought
http://www.premiumcollectables.com.au/products/uw-ex-baldigus-takara-tomy-mall-exclusive

>>5986847
Free shipping too, its a steal compared to sky reign

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>>5986774
Is it wrong if I like the color scheme of baldigus/ruination better than UW Bruticus?

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>>5986774
>>5986776
>>5986780

Definitely want this.

>>5986774
>>5986776
>>5986780
Very tempting.

>>5986774
Isn't the chest symbol upside down?

>>5986905
I don't get this stupid Italian meme.

>>5986946
Its supposed to be, its the "anti cybertron" (or anti g2 autobot) faction from car robots.

Mind you the animation model never put it on the chest of ruination but its not a big loss considering g2 bruticus's g1 faction logo

Wish they would have remolded movar's feet to not be retarded as fuck but I'll still be grabbing this set in an instant. Loves me some Ruination and RiD in general.

>>5986877
No because UW Bruticus had garbage colors.

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>>5986954
>he hasn't watched Emperor's new Groove

>>5986979
Never heard of it, is it any good and does it feature alot of pasta?

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>a wild challenger has appeared

More foreign scum, not on our watch

>>5986981
It stars David Spade as the voice of a wise cracking hip-and-with-it llama.

>>5986981
It's pretty great. Good banter. Very little spaghetti but lots of salad.

>>5986981
It's not perfect but it's around the era of Tarzan and Atlantis, so if you liked those, it's worth a watch.

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>>5986993
Which Optimus figure is this? Looks nice.

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>>5986995
Toys alliance MAS-01, it doesn't transform but its fucking big, thats a hot toys hulk right there, or 18 inches

>>5986997
>doesn't transform
>fucking big
So... what are the pros again? Kidding aside, it does look nice, though. Looks a lot like that "Ultimetal" Prime that was going for 1k.

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You know, alpha trion's body is simerlar to this if you squint

>>5987004
Last I checked this was bigger, if I didn't have mp10 I'd of gone for this.

They're also doing a megatron to do with this, as well as a fall of cybertron optimus (it'll be smaller though)

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>>5986981
>Never heard of it

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Double feature featuring mp primal and TAV ratchet

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>>5987018
>U MAD WHITEBOI?

>>5987018
Still got like 3 weeks before Monkey is in my hands.

3 at most hopefully.

>>5987018
I think my only worry about Primal is the fact that he looks to be held together almost entirely out of pins and rivets.

I sure as fuck hope there are no tightness/looseness issues on him because they sure as fuck wont be fixable.

>>5987024
I just want strong ratchets in the legs, the arms will be light (well apart from the LTD mace)

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>>5987024
>they sure as fuck wont be fixable
... except they are.

lets say primals elbows were loose, you would add a tiny TINY drop of super glue between the crevice where his forearm and elbow connect, then, you would continuously move his elbow until the glue sets (dont stop moving it unless you want his elbow to get stuck)

>>5987030
>forearm and elbow connect
bicep and elbow*

>>5986774
this is why ehobby grand scourge exists

>>5986997
This reminds me, I still think I'd prefer a non-transforming MP scale Megatron that just comes with a bunch of P38s designed to fit in all the MP hand types.

>>5987018
Still can't find Ratchet anywhere dang it.

>>5987045
And the TAV version pre-ordered out very quickly along with starscream

>>5987018
>expensive MP
>has the same gappy elbows as a toy from the 90s

Overall I'm not seeing sufficient improvements to this toy to warrant replacing my original. Not unless a $30 KO comes out.

>>5986905
What Optimus Prime is that?

>>5986957
it's a result of using G2 laser Prime for Black Convoy, which had big G2 symbols on the discs. Takara didn't remove them.

>>5987054
I just like the face personally, the elbows such ass though

>>5987060
3p make toys striker manus, an OC take.

Their up coming megatron is bizarre

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>>5987060

Explosive Pelvic action Striker Manus.

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>>5987067
That looks so cool and yet so painful

>>5987067
There are so many product shots of that guy showing off the ab crunch that you could almost believe that his abs are just like that and don't actually articulate.

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>>5986783
...you can just take the arms off of the mushroom pegs and swap them. That isn't remolding.Voilà.

>>5987090
I guess the term for this would be altered assembly?

>>5987090
...oh well I like ruination's colors better and I can repurpose shuttler as a g2 limb.

Wish I knew early before my pre-order, UW bruticus is cheaper

>>5987090
So whats exactly the function of those pegs on the chest?

Anybody else seeing a mark-down at walmart on TR deluxes? My local store has them marked down to $10, not sure why but I was happy to get Skullcruncher for a little cheaper. If there were more than two Scourges there right now I'd bring 'em all home and army-build at that price. I wonder if they're just trying to clear space out for the xmas rush?

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QUICK! Post your favourite toy from each sub-line of Transformers that you bought

>Beast Wars - Dinobot II
>Armada - Tidal Wave
>Cybertron - Crumplezone
>TF2010/RtS - Sea Spray
>DotM - Human Alliance Tailpipe
>Generations - WFC Megatron
>Thrilling 30 - Metroplex
>Prime - Vehicon (non-FE)
>RID - Quillfire
>CW - Shockwave
>TR - Hardhead

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>>5987071
It's probably fine, Transformers don't feel pain when they transform so they can twist their limbs in very odd ways.

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>>5987107
>masterpiece-MP10
>classics-Optimus prime
>DOTM-Leader Optimus prime
>Movie advanced-Deluxe starscream
>Titan returns-Blaster
>Combiner wars-All silverbolt retools specifically silverbolt
>Tav/rid2015-Optimus warrior class
>henkei-megatron

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>>5987101
Just in case you get the urge to put his tailfin on his back in his "proper" robot mode

>>5987107
>Beast Wars - Quickstrike
>Armada - Demolisher (he needs a slight update to be even greater, Generations treatment when?)
>Cybertron - Breakdown (GTS?) or Dropshot
Hard to start picking the newer stuff though, lots of favorites for different reasons

>>5987107
>G1-Ultra Magnus
>Beast Wars-tough call, but probably Ultra Optimus Primal overall
>Machine wars-Sandstorm
>Beast Machines-Deluxe Jetstorm
>Robots in Disguise-Megatron
>Armada-Tial Wave
>Energon-Galvatron
>Cybertron-Optimus Prime
>Universe-Razorclaw(BW Tigerhawk redeco)
Alternators-Jazz/Meister
>Classics-Mirage
>Movie 1-Wreckage
>Universe 2-Cyclonous
>Animated-Blurr
>ROTF-Bludgeon
>RTS-Spec Ops Jazz
>2010-Battle blades Bumblebee
>Generations 2010-Warpath
>DOTM-Sentinel Prime
>TFP First edition-Bulkhead
>TFP RiD-Vehicon
TFP Beast Hunters-Grimwing
>Thrilling 30 Generations-Springer
>CW-Rook
>Titans Return-Blurr(Legends version)
>Masterpiece-G2 Lambor

>>5987124
Oh ok, I have Strafe and was wondering the fuck those ports are for, thanks.

>>5987107
>Beast Wars - Insecticon
>Beast Wars Neo - Longrack
>RiD - Megatron
>Energon - Sharkticon
>Animated - Shockwave
>Generations - Springer
>Masterpiece - Soundwave
>Prime - Breakdown
>CW - Shockwave/ Reflector
>UW - Computron
>TR - Weirdwolf

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>>5987127
>Generations treatment when?
NEVER

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>>5987018
Just one week and full galleries of him with other Primals.

>>5987108
I read it with his voice (as i heard it in my country)

>>5987107
>Beast Wars - Transmetal Waspinator
>RiD2001 - Optimus
>DoTM - Shockwave
>Animated - Shockwave
>Generations - Rhinox
>CW - Shockwave
>MP - Shockwave

I don't even like Shockwave that much, he just always has the most consistently fun toys I find.

>>5986785
BBTS put him up for $160. Still a lot to swallow but it's better.

>>5986785
The hands are so so, but I actually like the feet better than the PE feet because they can pivot outwards instead of just inwards

Not as solid though.

>>5986981

John Goodman and Patrick Warburton also voice in it.

it's funny as fuck.

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>>5987018

They're both voiced by Takehito Koyasu in the Japanese dubs of the shows.

>>5987140
They're 5mm holes, so put whatever you want there. Give him combat nipples.

>>5987193
This makes me wonder.

TF_PR's pictures have alot of similarity to Yuki's, do you think yuki is incharge but only posting tf sales stuff without his commentary or accidental hints/leaks?

I thought it was a generic post like always but I've noticed have his special something to them

>>5986603
>>5986584

Trying to figure out how to do this with my Hasbro Fort Max.

Is there modding required or is it a mode that only the Takara one can do?

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>>5987215

Nah. I just know my VA's.

I really want Koyasu to voice Overlord someday.

>>5987254
You're literally folding him over, mine is currently like that right now.

shins facing up to the wheels are on the ground, and contort the main body into that shape, can't remember if you need to twist the pelvis or not though but If I remember correctly the ab crunch must be used.

The reason why my memory is hazy is I own a SDCC fort max and I've used him in this position as a table since it was posted, and between the fort maxes the only changes are the TM face, paint color, sword inclusion and the legs being glued shut, this position should be possible with the takara one

>>5987263
Oh and the voice chips between all 3 differ but that's not a folding difference.

Just do what I did and start with the legs, match them like the picture

>>5987107
Energon-Jetfire
Cybertron-Optimus Prime
Universe-Deluxe Hound or Sunstreaker
Generations-Voyager Springer
Movies-voyager ROTF Scream or ROTF
Leader Prime
Masterpiece-Star Saber
CW-Devastator
TR-Skullcruncher
3P-Terminus Hexatron

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>>5987266
>>5987263
Got him mostly there but I had to remove the cannon mounts on the legs to do it. Not sure where or how to reattach then back there

>>5987258
But that doesn't sound like a funny transsexual. Overlord should wear girly clothes and mutilate other robots while licking their internal mechanisms.

Does anyone else dislike it when toys have static angled feet instead of ankle pivots?

I find they really only facilitate that one single "stand up straight with legs spread" pose and make that specific pose look better by making it possible to have their feet flat on the ground.
Otherwise. I find they make it difficult to balance dynamic poses since the feet are stuck angled in a specific way. In some cases they can even make it impossible to stand a figure with their legs straight if the outsides of their feet are rounded.

Not even ankle pivots, I'd probably rather feet that are just in a static non-angled position.

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>>5987271
Good work anon!

Now, for those to mount there should be ports on the arms themselves, should be on the inside like this pic I kept for reference (forgot I had this), plug them via the pegs and angle them as required

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>>5987107
>Armada - Happy Meal Cyclonus
>Energon - Deluxe Steamhammer
>Movie07 - Leader Megs by default
>ROTF - Legends Soundwave
>PCC - Smolder & Chopster
>HFTD - Leader Starscream
>DOTM - vanilla Deluxe Bumblebee
>Prime - Cyberverse Hardshell
>T30 - Cosmos & Payload
>CW - Rook
>TR - Rumble

>>5987280
Well, that's not where they were in the pics I quoted but I suppose it will do for now. Still gives me nowhere to put the gun mounts I had to remove from the legs

>>5987278
I prefer stable feet, it really depends, on a deluxe yes fucking PLEASE but on a voyager or leader it needs something like a ratchet to prevent their own weight taking themselves down.

Take mp05, balljointed feet, most of the toy is big, heavy and has a diecast spine, doesn't end well and would rather them being static, hell maybe just bigger feet too

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>>5987283
Oh, OH, THE GUNMOUNTS AS IN THE RED RAILING SECTIONS (that are grey on takara fort max)!?

I didn't even remove those from mine, pardon the shit shot, its really a mess where he's sitting, I also altered him further *just* so he's more stable for the weight he carries (he has 5 UW/CW boxes on top of him as we speak, don't ask why)

All I know is I never removed the mounts, just the cannons

>>5987291
>>5987283
Now that I think about it and check the pic I posted I believe I angled the torso so it rested flat ontop of the mounts, initially they were at an angle and thought I had to remove the mounts

>>5987107
>Cybertron: Megatron
>Movie 1: Barricade
>Animated: Bumblebee
>RTS: Lugnut
>DotM: Megatron
>Generations: Cyclonus
>Masterpiece: Shockwave
>Prime: Megatron voyager
>RiD: Grimlock
>CW: Armada Megatron
>TR: Sentinel Trump

>>5987284
I agree, they should do everything they can to make feet stable. I just find that most of the time, static angled feet only really make the legs spread more stable at the expensive of other poses. I think that just having flat feet would make a figure all around more stable in various poses.

>>5987095
More like alternate form like Generations Sideswipe/Sunstreaker and Punch/Counterpunch.

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>>5987291
>>5987296
My problem is the damn wheel berry's in the way

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>>5987303
What's the position of the crotch?

It should be angled so The torso half is resting flat ontop of the mounts, I think this helped.

I want to fiddle with him more to get a better idea but its 4am and the ratchets have woken up the family, plaster walls are useless

>>5987303
gets* in the way.

Fucking phone

>>5987302
>Sideswipe/Sunstreaker

That would constitute a altered assembly, Punch to Counterpunch I'd consider a

>>5987309
Near as I can tell that is in the same position as mine. Fuck it, I'm just going to remove the mounts for now and call it a day until I figure this shit out

>>5987316
Maybe tommorow during earlier hours I'll mess with mine, all I remember is the torso, crotch were factors.

I thought of one thing, did you pull the legs to the side using the slide joint from the top of the shins?

If find your answer please post, otherwise I'll post a pic of mine tommorow, good luck otherwise anon, time for sleep for me

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>>5987090
correct me if i am wrong, but some tried that with Generations Sideswipe and then turned the whole thing around to show how Generations Sunstreaker would look with a roof chest instead of a hood chest. That resulted in a Sunstreaker with upside down hands, like the thumb was on the bottom. When Hasbro released Sunsreaker they had to make new hands to fix that, right? And then another set of hands for Punch/Counterpunch, right? My Red Alert is on display, but i'm going to dig out Streaker and Swipe to see in person.

>>5987333
As far as I remember, sunstreaker used the same hands, just that it was swapped around. I can't remember if it was swapped at the bicep swivel or the wrists, probably the latter.

>>5987054
>has the same gappy elbows as a toy from the 90s
I don't really understand why this new one has such an egregious elbow problem, too. I'd assume it's a compromise for the transformation, but that makes very little sense, seeing as how the arms are basically the same damn thing in both modes. Why does the elbow joint get fucked?

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What's the best G1 style Megatron?

>>5987349
For what's out now, Despotron

We don't know what MP36 is like though

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>>5987345
The original ape Primal toy had a gimmick where the lower left arm would change into a gun. On the show, this was reinterpreted as two arm mounted canons that come up from the forearm. Since the gun has to fit within the arm, it leaves very little space for an elbow joint.

>>5987354
The hinges are technically animation accurate as well. On the show he had those bigass hinge elbows, they were just centered in his arms and not on the very edge.

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>>5987363
This too, and actually the show's elbows seem more restricted than either the MP or the 96 toy. Can't go past a 90 degree angle. The elbow joint is still unsightly, but its effective.

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>>5987354
Ahhhh, okay. That's actually worth it then. It doesn't look terribly bad, and as long as there's a good reason for it, it doesn't bother me. Not that I'm buying the thing, but it's good to know.

>>5987349
My favorite is still this little guy, but Despotron looks really good. Interested in the official MP, if they give him a silver paint job and fix his badge for a later release or something. Remember when the objective of the MP line was just "to look good" instead of "too look exactly like the cartoon to shut the autists up"?

>>5987363
Well that's the problem. Nobody's really complaining that it has visible hinges. After all, it's a robot.

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>>5987349

Wait for the Masterpiece before choosing.

>>5987366
I don't mind the matte silver but I really want a clean decepticon logo. Given the nature of his removable chest I'd really like to at least see a clean logo chest panel sold separately, like they've done with some other MP accessories.

I'd still like to figure out a way to write in to takara to express my opinions on this.

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>>5987369

>>5987321
Huh. I had totally forgotten those slides existed, that did the trick

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>>5987370
>I'd still like to figure out a way to write in to takara to express my opinions on this.
We're in the minority. I feel like most people love that they're embracing the cartoon so strictly. When Hasui was head of the MPs, he was more focused on drawing from all aspects of a character to create a good-looking G1 style toy. As time has gone on, they've just decided to go full-pandering, and since 90% of MP collectors are over-30 manchildren who just want a figure that looks as much as possible as their dumpy 80s toy commercial, instead of something that is actually, you know, good.

I hate the loss of silver paint on these things. All of their faces used to be silver, but now they've switched to flat gray to better emulate the cartoon, I suppose. I always assumed that the grays in the cartoon were meant to be silver, anyway. They just didn't always highlight it properly because it was cheap and lazy animation.

>>5987385
>We're in the minority.

I honestly kind of doubt that. I don't think I've ever seen people complain over a lack of cartoon adherence or the use of clean logos, but I've seen tons of people complain over Shockwave having sloppy animation stickers, Inferno's alternate grills having sloppy logos and now Megatron only having sloppy logos as an option.

I don't know what other fan sites are like or even what the average japanese fan is like (I'm curious about this, actually), but so far the sloppy cartoon logo advocates have been a silent minority that have been content to be forgotten.

>>5987399
>I don't think I've ever seen people complain over a lack of cartoon adherence
Where is this fantasy dimension you live in, and how can I get there?

>>5987405
Okay well not in that broad of a sense, I meant more specifically with the logos. I've never seen people complain about clean logos and I almost want to say people never even thought of the distinction between the two until takara put the sticker options on MP Shockwave.

>>5986776
>>5986780
Are those new guns for Onslaught, or have they come from a different figure?

>>5987416
They come from UW Computron.

>>5987416
That set has a bunch of reused guns

I see UW Scattershot's guns, Defensor's guns, and some UW Devastator guns.

>>5987385
Good ol "show accuracy is evil if it's G1".

>>5987369
>Sees Megatron having a gunface.
I didn't even notice that before. Does he think he's AoE's Lockdown?

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>>5987424
It's not show accuracy, it's lazy and bad animation accuracy.

If we're going to be getting poorly animated symbols then we might as well be getting a Soundwave-sized Devastator because it's the same damn thing.

>>5987427
Do you ever get tired of posting this picture every time you want to reheat your copy pasta that G1 is lazy and bad?

>>5987352
lol fuck off.
MP-36, even if it's fiddly or fragile or something, will still make more sense to own, since it actually looks like the character in both modes, instead of an awkward gun mode and weird "artist's interpretation" of Meg's bot mode.

Don't try to drag some poor sap into your world of buyer's remorse by owning a Despotron.

>>5987430
But it is.

>>5987433
And no matter how many times you say it, it won't stop people from wanting show accuracy. That's all anyone has ever wanted from the Masterpiece line, going all the way back to MP01. He looked like show and turned into the best truck he could manage. It's why people hated MP03. He didn't look like the show because his retard designer focused on the jet mode too much.

Even Hasui, his stuff is "it turns into a real world car except it also has a show accurate robot mode". It's not some "ultimate" version almagated mess. It's ultimate show accuracy. If it wasn't, Optimus wouldn't have giant Optimus crotch and legs in truck mode.

But show accuracy trumps all.

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>>5987425
>Sees Megatron having a gunface.
>I didn't even notice that before. Does he think he's AoE's Lockdown?

No, he thinks he's G1 Megatron.

>>5987436
>his retard designer
>Kawamori
>retard
Nigga.
He might not be able to direct shows for shit but damn if he isn't great at transforming robits.

Accurate or not the show logos just look fucking ugly

At least with the emblems, you can just reprolabel over them. It's much less consequential than plastic design choices.

>>5987366
What's that shield?

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>>5987310
remove those red thingys with the cannons attached and peg the cannons behind the thighs

>>5987333
No, dummy. The hands are removable. They're swapped in the factory and assembled differently

>>5987107
>Masterpiece: Grimlock
>Classics: Megatron
>Cybertron: Omega Supreme (YOT repaint)
>Beastwars: Optimus Primal
>Metals: Megatron
>Generations:WFC Megatron
>Thrilling 30:Legends Starscream
>RTS: Lugnut
>Prime: Legends Wheeljack
>Combiner wars: Bruticus set
>Titan Returns: Soundwave

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Well threw my back out due to being stupid with outdoor home improvement. Ask my wife to get me some pain relief stuff from Walmart. She surprised me with this.

>>5987583
Give her a blowjob as thanks.

>>5987583
Although I don't care for the new transformers; re-wife her.

>>5987107
>Beast Wars - Retrax
>Armada - Sideways
>Cybertron - Crumplezone
>TF2010/RtS - Lugnut
>DotM - Quick strike
>Generations - FoC Vortex
>Thrilling 30 - Brainstorm vs Jetfire
>Prime - Rumble
>RID - Megatronus
>CW - Scrounger
>TR - Hardhead
>Masterpeice - Laserwave/Shockwave
>UW - Grand Scourge (you heard me)
>Legends - Slipstream

>>5987575
No need to call me dummy, but i am wrong.

>>5987600
>Retrax
Is this a joke?

>>5987602
No
He was a blast to roll around and I love how I could have him ambush other bots with that bearhug gimmick

>>5987583
How does ratshit look next to chug dudes?

>>5987431
>since it actually looks like the character in both modes
Well, the MP has an uglier gun mode than all the 3rd party options. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere due the nature of the design.

>>5987436
>And no matter how many times you say it, it won't stop people from wanting show accuracy. That's all anyone has ever wanted from the Masterpiece line,
Not sure I agree with that. A saw a lot of comments about Hasui's designs praising how they felt like proper updates of the G1 "toys". He definitely wasn't obsessed with making them perfect cartoon representations, although they were still close enough for most.

>>5987583
I still haven't found Bisk. I think because i live in South Louisiana people buy him thinking he's a crawfish. Heading to The Big City tomorrow, maybe i'll find one. And the Little Woman is a keeper!

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>>5986774
>>5986776
>>5986780
God that is beautiful.

I'm selling my CW Bruticus immediately.

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>>5987634
>Well, the MP has an uglier gun mode than all the 3rd party options

Nor really, the MP has many panels, but you can't actually see a single double-hinge joint piece or recessed parts needed for these joints to work. Compare Despotron's grip with the Masterpiece one and you'll see what I'm talking about.

>>5987565
Ah, thanks anon

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>>5987425
>not knowing that the face is an hommage to the movie when he turns into galvatron

It isn't a gunface, you fucking inbred,

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Okay, so this guy is on his way. I only paid $22.99

Is the figure any good. Clearly Red Alert is less popular than Sideswipe.

I really would have preferred Sideswipe but this guy was so cheap I couldn't pass him up.

Also, the seller says it is not a knockoff.
>"100% Official and original product and not a KO." How can this be? Is he that worthless?

>>5987727
>he fell for it

It's indubitably a knock off.

>>5987681
Fair point. That is messy looking.

>>5987727
Probably a knock-off, but their quality was as good as the official products.

>>5987656
Good luck friend! Brisk is a fun engineering marvel. His arms make 2/3rds of the alt mode and I find that amazing for the kid aimed line.

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>>5987718

Pretty sure he was talking about this.

>>5987727
Almost definitely a knockoff.
Save a copy of their product page and get a refund from ebay if it winds up being a knockoff.

>>5987740
Well, shit

Now everyone knows I'm retarded

>>5987718
Dumb.

>>5987727
I'm sorry anon but they can and will lie
More so if it's from an Asian factory country
I hope you get lucky but I wager you have bought a KO but if it has few QC issues you made out alright

>>5987741
I just realized that I kind of assumed you bought it off ebay.

Knockoff or not, if the figure quality is good then 22$ is a decent price.

>>5987732
Well, I figured it was a knockoff but why would the seller lie about the obvious? Especially based on his price. Most other sellers say "KO" but this was even cheaper than theirs.

Does this mean I can complain to the seller that I was sent a knockoff and keep it for free when I get it? I'm hoping the box at least says Takara Tomy because I like the perfection of that when compared to Takasa Tony.
I already have Takasa Tony Cassettes.

>>5987759
Here's the auction I got it from: http://www.ebay.com/itm/332002299935

The seller is out of them so hopefully he will relist if anyone wants one. I wish he had Sideswipe for that price, though.

>>5987759
Some sellers might issue a refund the moment you express any displeasure and leave it at that. Others might tell you to destroy it and show proof or return it before issuing a refund.

Bulk Chinese sellers tend to do the former I find but it really depends.

>>5987772
I bought a fake 128GB SDHC card for like $7 and after showing the flash memory test results, I was given a full refund and got to keep the card.

>>5987736
Are there any other TFs that do stuff like that? I swear there's another but not sure.

>>5987783
Oh! I remember now! Thrilling 30 legends bee, tfa lockdown, and 2007 movie barricade.

>>5987759
Christ dude, are you that guy that posted the ko cassettes a few threads ago?

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>>5987789
Yeah. I want the KOs because they're cheap. Plus, I collect knockoffs anyway. These are some impressive knockoffs. I also got a Human Alliance yellow Bumblebee for $16. That's less than original retail. The seller claims they are KOs but I have my doubts. These things are identical and have the same quality as the originals. I think they're something else. Asian rereleases or something. They're very strange whatever they are.

>>5987798
Forgot the auction in case anyone wants one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/222287528257

This one comes with the box. I've seen them go for more on Aliexpress without the box.

>>5987798
Well alright then, just seemed like you rushed into buying them both and then asked if they were knock offs after the fact, but if it doesn't bother you then that's okay.

>>5987802
Here's the current auction of $16 HA Bumblebees:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/new-Transformers-ROTF-Human-Alliance-Bumblebee-Figure-and-Sam-New-with-Box-/222291544606?hash=item33c19bca1e:g:Jp4AAOSwFe5XxoMp

>>5987281
>>PCC - Smolder & Chopster
My nigga, Smolder is a great little dude and definitely my favorite PCC. Chopster is a fun little guy too, elbows and any sort of neck would make him 10/10. I like Drill-bit as far as PCC targetmasters go. (melemasters?)

To any anons with UW warriors blast off, are all 3 hinges in his feet pinned in or is at least one of them friction hinged?

>>5987385
>>5987433
I completely agree. Not much we can do about it, though.

Transformers the Movie is still my favourite animated musical of all time, but I would much, much rather have toys of these characters that actually look good, but that's not gonna happen as long as 40-year olds clinging to Muh Childhood make up so much of the fanbase.

>>5986997
I gotta see him with some Joes

>>5987820
I'm not a clever man
What do you mean by friction hinge?

>>5987583
>Bisk
HNNNNG.
I don't really care for the look of the Animated/Prime/RiD toys, but I fucking love that little dude.
I'd love to see a CHUG-style take on him some time.

>>5987844
Where it's just like a set of little plastic nubs/pegs snapped into indents/holes holding the piece in place instead of just being pinned all the way through.

>>5987836
>favourite animated musical
It's not a musical. There's one song.

>>5987735
>but their quality was as good as the official products.

Fuck off with the shitty meme already.

>>5987862
>Instruments of Destruction
>Dare
>Nothin's Gonna Stand in Our Way
>Hunger
>Dare to Be Stupid
>The Touch
It's an 80's metal musical for sure.

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>>5987872

Fuck, now I have the need to listen them all once again.

>>5987872
No. Having music in the background doesnt make it a musical.

>>5987107
G1 Overload
Beast Wars Optimus Primal
RID Galvatron
Armada Unicron
Energon Shockblast
Cybertron Dark Scorponok
2007 Movie Leader Brawl
Animated Leader Megatron
RotF Bludgeon
Universe Cyclonus
DotM Megatron
Generations Darkmount
WFC Megatron
Prime RiD Vehicon
FOC Shockwave
AoE Evasion Mode Optimus Prime
MP Star Saber
RiD 2015 Fracture
CW Superion
UW Computron
TR Wolfwire

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>>5987903
>G1 Overload

Are you sure you didn't mean Overlord?

>>5987798
Remember that these people probably have access to the same factories and molds. They are most likely saving a lot of money just by not paying Hasbro loyalties, which is how they can lower the costs so much.

>>5987907
Yeah, that guy. Had him when I was a kid and was the only G1 figure I felt the urge to repurchase as an adult.

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Is this guy worth $40.98? It seems there are quality knockoffs of this guy now. (at least based on the price) I wasn't aware. Does anyone have one? They're definitely more expensive than the cars. Is Hot Rod larger than the cars like Sideswipe?

>>5987920
Except his name is totally Overload. Overlord is someone completely different.

>>5987921
Sorry, forgot my link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TAKARA-Transformers-MP28-MP-Rodimus-master-hot-rod-hot-rod-/331994882123?hash=item4d4c6fe04b:g:7kUAAOSwNRdX-mwN

>>5987901
>advertised as an incredible rock 'n' roll adventure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_25RK5GbJIc

>>5987930
It has rock and roll. Would you count guardians of the galaxy as a musical?

>>5987930
>implying rock 'n' roll is music

>>5987931
yes

>>5987931
Kind of, yeah. Especially considering many of the songs in GotG actually serve to drive the plot forward.

my gorlfriend is getting me an expensive figure for christmaa, a while ago I had my sites set on fort max, because I dont like feeling as if I missed out on great release, like with devastator.
so, figures i want: tr fort max
Mp optimus primal
the new 3rd party masterpiece laser optimus prime

what should I go for?

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I had this loud thing as a kid.
I think I need to get it again.

>>5987943
I'd get Primal.
TR Fortmax is pretty terrible. I'm not familiar with that 3p Laser Prime though.

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Wow, look at that price: http://www.ebay.com/itm/TAKARA-Transformers-MP-05-NEW-BOXED-edition-version-of-Megatron-TIANRI-/131979525349?hash=item1eba97bce5:g:ORMAAOSwHMJYDHW-

Does this mean they even copied Masterpiece Megatron?

Is this guy worth $50? Do you think he's make it past customs if I ordered him from China??

>>5987740
I think I need this.

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>>5987872
A Musical is a media performance that combines songs, spoken dialogue, acting, and/or dance all in one performance of a scene. Technically most animation doesn't count as a Musical number because the part of dancing and acting is in debate since a large part of it is animated rather than performed.
However there are some on the edge that can be seen as a Musical number due to what happens in the animated scene
Aladdin's "One Jump" scene in the first act of the film could be argued a Musical number by itself
Beauty and the Beast's scene with the cover song of the same name by itself couldn't count alone as a Musical because Angela Lansbury singing in place while the couple dances would not count because while both singing and dancing is occurring they are separate from each other

In the TF film no actor is sing the scene as it unfolds and that alone disqualifies it as alone. Never mind that all the songs save for one has any direct relation to the Film.
Hell Touch was originally written for the Sylvester Stallone film Cobra

I have no idea what we are getting next year but the 1986 film by itself is not a musical

>>5987912
Not just Hasbro, try Paramount and Chevrolet. Licensing for the movie toys is a mess.

>>5987954
He doesn't make noise, though.That said, yeah he's really cool and worth it.

>>5987978
I disagree. Have you heard the ratchets on that thing? Though nothing will ever compare to the ratchets on Cybertron Metroplex.

>>5987871
Not sure how it's a meme if it's true?

>>5987982
The ratchets on the Botcon 2016 Megatron are particularly scary because they sound and feel like they'll snap at any moment. And it goes for $500+

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>>5987982
>the ratchets on Cybertron Metroplex.

>>5987107

>G1 - Ironhide
>G2 - Slingshot
>Beast Wars - Injector
>Beast Wars Neo - Randy
>Armada - Sideswipe
>Energon - Mega-Dinobot
>Universe - Galvatron
>2007 Movie - Deluxe Brawl
>Prime - Airachnid

>>5987954
I'm pretty sure the previous owners of my house used to have one of those guys

This is YEARS ago, but shortly after I moved in I kept finding weird plastic toy parts laying around that I eventually recognized as his tail, both of his feet flaps, a chunk of one of his arms and a piece of his wing. Like I'd find bits strewn about under furniture or behind appliances.

I guess the last people to live here had a kid that swung around RID Megatron like a fucking baseball bat just to watch him explode into bits

Is MP-05 worth $50? What was the original retail price?

>>5987996
>>5987964
As a collector's piece, if you can get an official one and be sure of it, then he may be worth owning just to be able to say "I own an MP-05" and keep MISB.

As a figure/toy though, no he's fucking horrible, you couldn't pay me to want one.

What makes him so horrible? I always wanted a gun Megatron.

I don't care if it's genuine. Those ones on eBay for $50 looks genuine enough.

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>>5987978
>>5987982

>>5987989
>Botcon figure
>cheap plastic
Duh. Plus they used the "thinner" "less expensive" plastic.

>>5988004
Fiddly transformation, breakable parts, rusts.

>>5988004
He has a lot of metal parts that are prone to tarnish, a lot of thin plastic that's prone to snapping, his left arm can barely support the weight of the fusion canon if you're lucky, he has weak balljoint ankles so he can barely stand and his resemblance in robot mode is pretty terrible.

>>5988014
also, a lot of plastic-on-metal friction joints and tabs that'll last about about 5 minutes before going loose.

>>5987727
I have KO Bluestreak and KO Gold Lambor and they're awesome. Bkuestreak had a tiny bit of flash on the red of his door panels and a bit of flash on his torso. Lambor required that I trim the tab that connects his hood to his chest in robot mode. Grand total I spent $52 for both KO's and I'd say it's totally worth it.

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Does this resemble your local TRU?

No Voyagers besides a Motormaster and a Galvatron here, no Leaders, no Titan Masters.

>>5988008
Its not the plastic that's cheap, its the construction on the gear itself. The ratchet has too much resistance.

>>5988022
looks like mine, only replace the CW bots with a sea of Galvatrons.

>>5988022
Haven't been in a while but that's pretty much how it looks every time I'm looking for something I want in general.

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>>5987921

He's one of the better MP's in terms of design, yeah. But he can have problems with his chrome. Lot of people got theirs scratched/chipped/etc.

>>5988022
I notice Scourges and Blurrs don't sell a great deal, I wonder why.

>>5988050
Lazy deco, those characters are canonically not head masters, plus the others kind of stand out more especially as blue figures start to cluster on shelves.

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>>5988022
Heres my TRU

>>5988050
After the Generations figures, I think a lot of people are hesitant on double dipping, even if they're more G1 accurate(headmasters aside).

>>5988061
I think it's the fact that it's a very dark blue that makes it hard to look at the details. They really should have toned that down.

>>5986774
>>5986776
>>5986780
Baldigus USA Edition when?

>>5988069
Hasbro Fanclub exclusive, only $200, plus express shipping.

>>5988064
That looks like my Target. They've only got Generations-Warpaths and TR Scourges.

>>5988064
How does the stuff stay on sideways like that?

>>5988064
Bottom shelf.
They had like 6 more Fort Maxs on the top shelf.

>>5988070
And Movor is the Slingshot mold

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>>5988070
>>5988087

>>5988087
If Hascon had a G2 Defensor with legends Groove and a G2 colored Rook, I'd actually be cool with it. I'd also be up for seeing Alpha Bravo and Offroad get G2 decos. Plus, naturally, I'd like a G2 Shuttle Blast Off.

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>>5988082
Forgot my pic

>>5988102
I always get a kick out of that depressed slight lean forward pose combiners always have.

Especialyl fitting when G2 Bruticus has to be in a video with that guy

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>>5988122

>>5988122
Doesn't help the Hot Shot/Onslaught mold has the arm-connection points too far forward so it can't hold itself up very well, even with PE Feet.

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>>5988120
I noticed these larger simple to transform RID Starscreams were TRU exclusives. Why is that? Does even Hasbro think this hollow shit won't sell? Also, one of his feet fell off when I was there. The buyer is lucky I put it back on or else they'd have bought a new toy missing pieces. These open window boxes are terrible.

>>5988135
I think TRU has a deal for exclusives and are not picky on what it is. TRU has gotten a number of exclusive decos of RID stuff.

>>5988125
Wait, CW Bruticus doesn't even have a proper space shuttle mold?

Do you guys think FunPub might keep doing Botcon as an unofficial con?

I mean, 3H did it and the brand has a strong resonance.

>>5988143

UW Bruticus gets shuttle but a shit color scheme.

CW gets better color scheme but jet BO.

>>5988143
>>5988148
I don't really like jet Blast Off, but less "it's not a space shuttle" and more I don't like that mold. I skipped on Superion for a reason.

>>5988135
I don't understand why open window boxes are a thing. Even as I kid I thought they were disgusting and didn't actually protect the product when they took it to the store

>>5988145
>implying people would go to a FunPub con if they didn't have the lisence.

>>5988135
There not exclusive in other countries where RiD has seen better sales in

>>5988164
Wait, RID has poor sales in Hasbroland? Do kids even play with toys anymore?

>>5988167
Couple of factors:
1.tv show/brand isn't strongly pushed but must compete with everything else including blockbuster films, right now the us market is crazy for capes and Star Wars, while TFs are having s strong year it's been thanks to the generations brand, not the kid aimed one
2. Its competing against its own brand. 2015 two toys are the same price, one is oversimple and looks cheap/low in playablity, the other has better quality look, more joints and has a third limb mode to build a gaint robot , for the same price

>>5988158
Save on cost and the markets seem to accept them
Also studies claim if the average consumer can touch the product in some way they are much more likley to buy it, so they claim

>>5988069
Hasbro toy colors ruination when??

Okay, so I've found no evidence there are knockoffs of Masterpiece Hot Rod and Megatron yet they are still on ebay for $40 and $50 respectively. Is it possible these are legit figures that are just cheap because they're old stock from China? Could they be factory defects?

I've love input from people who've ordered these figures before? It seems the fans selling these on eBay can't compete with China.

>>5987921
>Is Hot Rod larger than the cars like Sideswipe?
Yes. He's kind of halfway between the standard cars and Ironhide.

>>5988222
Isn't it normal for Chinese sellers to put stuff out to sell but then never actually send anything? That might be the case, but who knows

I dunno. I ordered the knockoff Masterpiece cassettes and they came in only a few weeks. Most china stuff I've ordered I have received.

>>5988222
From most likely to least
1. They are knock offs and they are lying
2. They are factory rejects and you are gambling the quality
3. It's a scam for money
4. They are overstock

Knock offs are fine by me for that price.

I just found this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-100-AUTHENTIC-Takara-Transformers-Masterpiece-MP-12-Lambor-Sideswipe-/272423505613?hash=item3f6db4cecd:g:tNsAAOSwnbZYCtwO

This has to be the cheapest I've seen these for. I thought $22 was cheap for Red Alert. I may yet order Sideswipe.

I love how it also says "Genuine" I may get it for free if I dispute it in eBay. Gotta love China...

>>5988102
He has such a punchable face.

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>>5988350
This came up, hopefully we get a better pic.

>>5988360
>Trailbreaker as the hero
>Sky Lynx as the dragom
>Ratchet as the princess
>Wheeljack and Hound on lights and effects
>Prime, Marissa, and the Protectobots in the audience

Too cute. I need this set now.

This is adorable.

>>5988360
>a fist in Trailbreaker's gun barrel

>>5987364
Fucking hell. It's not that complicated to make an elbow that both looks good and is functional. They could have done it like the show, but with a double-jointed part to make it bend further without making a huge gap, like one of the newer Megaman X figures does.

>>5988453
I do feel for BW fans wanting these MPs
They could have tossed the light up eyes for better elbows and most would be happy for it
Really I don't understand why thy gave him any. Shockwave is a homage to the old toy. Primal had no electronics just spring loaded missles

>>5987991
1/10

(you) tried too hard.

>>5987107
>G1 - Blitzwing
>Beast Wars - a tie between Powerpinch and Razorclaw
>Beast Machines - Megatron
>RID - Ruination
>Armada - Predacon
>Classics - Astrotrain
>Movie - Stockade
>Universe 2.0 - Legends Wheelie
>ROTF - Jetblade or some of the scouts
>PCC - Icepick with Chainclaw
>DOTM - Barricade
>Prime - Vehicon
>Thrilling 30 - Rhinox
>Combiner Wars - Rook
>Titans Return - Blurr

These are just the ones I have.

Who coukd i repurpose either of the last two brainstorms into? Possibly with a new head.

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I'm needing someone with a more creative mind here to help me out
I want to find a way to integrate Wreckgar to CW Computron but I can't think of anywhere creative to put him, basically he can just counter balance Scrounger's lumb on the other arm but I like to find a way to attach him that isn't just a bike hanging off the arm.

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>>5988577
Thrilling 30 Brainstorm could make an easy Beast Machines Jetstorm

>>5988577
The TR one can basically be any future space jet mode TF

>>5987740
that's ridiculous but... works well, why?

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i made some good Oc with the new optimus, i'll have fun painting this one

>>5988596
Okay

>>5988596
If TF4 is any indication, I'd wait for Takara to make a premium deco of him, possibly with new parts.

>>5987681
This could be used to rob someone at night time.

>all that bullshit above about TFTM being a fucking musical
>"80's metal"

Jesus christ, how embarrassing. The idiots in this thread truly are clueless.

>>5988579

Can you put him into Defensor chestplate mode and then just stick him on the arm somehow?

>>5988617
Rook was original planned for the set, but you'd have to swap out a member for that. If you do that, you can use him in arm mode, and attack Wreck-Gar to him.

>>5988612
Not as embarrassing as bringing up an old post to show everyone how you can't take a joke.

>>5988623
>a joke
Suuuuure

>>5988629
Oh yeah, I forgot the rule that everyone on 4chins has to be 100% serious all the time.
My bad.

>>5988640
No. Jokes can be made. That person wasn't joking thinking it was a musical.

>>5988641
Anon who posted the musical thing here. It was 100% bait.

>>5988623
>>5988640
>>5988646
>PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED
Bravo!

>>5988651
Hey, you're the rube who's still mad about it 8 hours after the fact.
I was just bored of complaining about MP Megatron for the 50th damn thread.

>>5988651
Alright alright, go back to /v/ or /co/ or wherever you come from already.

>>5988657
I was on a plane when you made that shitpost, retard. Sucks to be a self-centered prick, huh?
>>5988658
You first, projectonimo.

>>5988664
So basically you're mad because a baby cried the entire flight or you were seated next to a hambeast?

That sucks bro. Wanna talk about it?

>>5988665
I was actually on the end of the row with no one next to me so yeah. I'm just here to laugh at you.

>>5988673
I didn't say it was good bait, dude. But it clearly caught you.

Calm down, post robots.

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>>5988582
>>5988586


I meant one WITHOUT repainting the figure, q different name and character that is still an homage to a transformer.

>>5988681
Nothing caught me other than how jarringly stupid your posts are (and by extension, you).

>getting this angry over a joke
Jesus Christ, am I on /v/?

>>5988688
Well, you certainly post like you are.

>>5988693
Enough, either post robots or fuck off.

I realize this is a thread about children's toys but you that doesn't give you the excuse to act like a child.

>>5988697
Then why are you doing just that?

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Ignore Australia
Post Transformers

>>5988702
Man I love the face sculpt on that one but I got the FE for those nice flip out blasters.

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>>5988135
Open window boxes are retarded af.
>tfw half of the Power Surge figures here have the minicon ripped off

>>5988754
Hasbro doesn't care, why should you?

>>5987926
Perhaps because he is indeed, talking about Overload?

>>5988022
>>5988064
My walmart has deluxes dropped to $10, not sure the cause. Haven't had CW guys there since early Spring, all RiD until TR began hitting shelves.

>>5988770
My Walmart did the same roll back, unfortunately they still only have wave 1 TR bots, on the bright side I just found Brainstorm at Walgreens.

>>5988064

I should take a pic of a french toy store someday, with the pegs still loaded with full price AoE shit

>>5988786
Nice, I'll have to check my Walgreens again, wish I'd waited to get Hardhead and Blur, both are plentiful and cheaper than a week ago when I bought them.

>>5986774
MFW I saw ruination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MD48...

>>5988795
link not working?
sorry

>>5988791
I've been checking the one by my house for a week to no avail, go figure the one a few miles away had a peg full of them. I bought a second Skullsmasher to swap out the legs, lost the receipt and ended up getting $10.76 back instead of the $16.18 I paid for him. It sucks but having a Skullsmasher with working legs was worth it.

>>5988795
Cool, no one cares.

When will EE have LIokaiser preorders up?

>>5988797
Was it the entire first batch of Skullsmashers that got the bad legs? I bought one a couple weeks ago, exchanged it for Blur, then re-bought a second one the other day at the reduced price. The new one also has a floppy leg, hips and thigh swivels are pretty loose. Maybe I'll try the pledge trick, never actually needed to try before. Also picked up the little Flywheels headmaster because the tank/plane looked adorable, and I love it but the headmaster's waist is super loose and the legs want to fall off without much provocation.

>>5988806
My first Skullsmasher was so bad that it couldn't stand, I'd stand it up and then it'd do the splits, I used a ton of Future and it didn't help. From what I can tell I got lucky with this second set of legs, the thigh swivel is a tad loose but nowhere near the original legs. Except for Skullsmasher all of my Titans Return figures have been amazing QC wise. I'm hoping that I'll find Mindwipe and Weirdwolf this week.

>>5988818
The only other quality defect I've encountered with these guys is Hardhead's elbow, which seems to be a bit too loose to hold his gun in any position other than up or down. Well, that and Skullsmasher's gun refuses to clip into his tail and instead just falls out, but that's minor.

>>5988820
Hardhead is an amazing bot and I'm considering army building him. Is the connection point to shallow or mishapen?

>>5988825
It seems like the pins holding forming his elbow joints are loose, or the plastic on either part has not enough grip on one another.
I still like him, but that's one niggling detail.

>>5988806
It's an issue with the steel mold, similar to the tolerance issues on the very first wave of CW Deadend, so the issue is widespread. Who knows if they did a running change to the mold midway through the 1st wave, but if you got one that isn't loose, you'd be very lucky.

>>5988827
Still an awesome figure.
>>5988832
I consider myself very lucky to find a decent pair of legs for Skullsmasher, especially because he's my most wanted figure from wave 1.

>>5988797
You know you could have just added Future/glue onto his leg ball joints right?

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>>5987816
I adore Throttler as much as I do Chopster.

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>>5988851
I have no idea why I thought his name was Drill-bit, other than he is a drill. He is great though, I wish we had gotten more of these while PCC lasted.

>>5988848
I used a ton of the stuff but for some reason I couldn't get enough to stay on his knees, I'd stand him up but he'd start to lose his legs after a short time.

>>5988854
What the fuck are you even on about m8

>>5987880

Enjoying the tunes anon. You know they're good.

>80's kid reporting in
>listening to Instruments of Destruction thanks to this post

>>5988905
>80's kid reporting in
Back to 9GAG you go.

>>5987372
>Hollow shoulders
>That mess of a back
>Dull grey instead of silver
>Robovagina

Despotron it is.