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Transformers General /tfg/ "This is an official configuration"

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Old thread >>5979818


I wish I was joking, lets us bask in the warm embrace of master scopehead
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>>5981431
That's just head cannon.
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I love this new megatron so much man seriously, its back is ugly, but from my main points of display (front on and side on) the horrible back doesn't show.

Granted, each of the 3p's have something special to them, but none can replicate a proper walther p38, and each have their flaws, some are subjective (like despotron's stylized look), but now there truly is an option for everyone.

I would be pleased if he's painted but I'll await official product images before I accept plastic grey, that said he'll be easier to handle, yes I own mp05 and he's suffered alot trying to man handle that massive thing.
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>>5981415
He did
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>>5981438
you're an idiot.
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>>5981438
Generations scourge is very much subjective at this point, anything classics styled is more a choice thing, I honestly love it over the new one, but I own both anyway, I love the whole "modernized" take on them.

And if no one likes either they best try 3p or wait for a masterpiece as they won't be pleased until then
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>>5981437
>that "EEK A SPIDER" pose on the stand
What did they mean by this?
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Find a flaw.
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>>5981449
she isn't real
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>>5981449
>shit artist
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Last thread an anon was asking for more line ups of retooled CW members

I lack G2 Bruticus so I'm short that blast off
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Beast Wars: Uprising
>Beast
>No Beastu Modo
Why?
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>>5981459
I was surprised to find out how much I disliked the Firefly mold.

I only had the Air Raid one for the longest time, and I loved how solid and versatile it was. I always wanted a Firefly one because the plane mode looked better and had a landing gear, but once I got it in hand, it was disappointing. Awkward-feeling limbs and getting all the parts to line up correctly for plane mode was tricky. It also lacked arm 5mm mounts.
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>>5981480
Hello there, Allspark ACBA tranny man. How did your hormone therapy go today?
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>>5981467
I was in the same boat as you
Loved Silverbolt and not Vortex quite a bit but Firefly and his reminds were just awful. The fact that all but an overhead view shows a mess of robot kibble smashed under the hood.
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>>5981486
Every time you respond he gets a (You) and keeps this going. His accusations of you coming from other boards is a reportableable offense so just report and ignore and move on.
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>>5981486
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>>5981480
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>>5981478
>>5981474
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>>5981440
>>5981438
Both of you are retards, get off the internet, go sit in the naughty corner and think about what you're doing
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>>5981488
Thanks, Mr. Rule Nazi.
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>>5981491
>but it's fun watching him flounder about
Have you thought about the rest of us?

>>5981492
that man is wise, respect to him

>>5981493
How old are you?

>>5981494
At this point I'm going to suspect you're the same guy, just looking for attention, no one is this stupid, shitting up a thread just because you can

>>5981496
Ok clearly you're lower than 12 in age
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As far as canon is concerned, would Optimus be closer to voyager-sized, or leader-sized next to other CHUG figures? Would Megatron be one size class up from him? He always seems to look down on Optimus.

I'm thinking voyager Optimus and leader Megs.
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>>5981500
Voyager Optimus and Voyager Megs. Any other configuration would just be absolutely retarded.
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>>5981491
You think he's doing that but the reality is both of you think the other is upset when the truth is you are both retarded and just keeping these threads renewing daily, not because of content like the other generals here but becuase you guys are so boared to talk to another "fan" you just shitpost constantly.
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>>5981449
Does she transform into a [spoiler]Paddy wagon?[/yougetthejoke]
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>>5981431
>>5981437
Pics of gun mode?
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Where do I go to submit having post ID on all boards?

It won't stop the problem between manchild shit poster and mister "I'm better than this kid" poster but least we can filter them alot easier
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>>5981508
>>5981509
You're Autisitc and the same person. You're not even trying to hide it now.
Last (You) I'm giving you.
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>>5981513
Here ya go.

>dem panels

From the looks of it alot of them fold up to make up the arms, but that should be obvious seeing how the legs can't hide
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>>5981504
Noted.
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>>5981516
no one is that stupid, though you may be for believing that in the first place.
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>>5981514
We were doing great a few threads earlier however seeing this early morning it seems the retard(s) have up their stupid and is will to samefag to a high level just to be repsonded to.
Basically we are playing a game of ignore the stupid
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>>5981522
>have up their stupid and is will to samefag to a high level just to be repsonded to.
nigga, do you English?
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>>5981522
I just wish more could be done, I've been seeing this for months, not all the time but often enough to remember the pattern of the post.

I'm inclined to believe its 2 separate posters since the "younger" post pattern seems familiar, doesn't help the other one doesn't shut up thinking he's winning at something.

Oh well, its the reason why I come here rather than a forum, no censorship, just gotta deal with it, I guess
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Lets break things up and do some comparisons.
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>>5981536
>even the piece of shit Apollyon has better paint
Real fucking shame desu
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>>5981536
the other thread I mention apollyon looking much better, but the other anons were right, mightron looks much better. I like Despotron's fusion cannon the most, however.
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>>5981517
WEW that's a lot of panel lines. I ain't even mad though. Bot mode is handsome af
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>>5981536
I honestly think the dx9 works the best, but the back section is hideous, the takara one least prevents it from jutting out too far from a profile view

>>5981537
It might be a silver but not an eye popping one, but even then as long as we don't get a shockwave case of plastic color we might be ok.

I suspect that, if they want REAL cartoon accuracy it might be a grey, but this could lead into redeco potential.

Silver painted, gold painted, e hobby black, this COULD potentially make takara's megatron a big cash cow, and if he ends up being a plastic grey means he'll make a good "play friendly" product.

>>5981539
Apollyon has a great upper half, its the legs that fail him, that and qc
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>>5981536
>>5981536
But which's gun mode is to scale and more accurate?
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>>5981546
MP Laserwave's plastic color was fine. Definitely better than Legends Shockwave and Galvatron.
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>>5981547
Doesn't matter, both will get you shot up or jailed.
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>>5981532
See me and a few irl friends that come here are visiting less and less becuase it's just not worth the stupid. We dont get news faster and we have fewer post of people sharing new toys and talking about what they like and didn't like and we are just getting more shitposting. Prehapes it's where I visit the other generals and see how much more focused they are on the hobby rather than the community bs it just makes TF generals seem like a chore. I also I don't think I'm the only one thinking that because the user count has gotten lower and lower the last two years where now tfgs struggle to have 60 posters and that's assuming all 60 are not people using multiple devices.
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>>5981551
I dont live in chavland

comparisons must be made
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>>5981546
So I'm going to give my opinion on each

>takara mp
Highest g1 accuracy, official, but said accuracy may hamper one's opinion

>apollyon
First to give us a mp-10 scaled 3rd party option
>mightron
Great front, awesome head, not so much in bed (sorry couldn't resist)
>despotron
Stylized 3p that can stand on its own, suffers from the hinge making gun mode somewhat ugly

>>5981547
Takara's is most accurate, it can be held in hand at least>>5981517 but otherwise takara's aims for mp10 scaling since mp10 IS THE yardstick in size, a testament to his design perhaps.

The 3p options aren't accurate p38's at all, the saving grace is they can clear customs alot easier as a result (not in gun mode of course).

>>5981549
I liked it too, problem was in the right light it was fine, most other times it popped out too much, I noticed the diecast sections were painted and were a darker tone and weren't so affected by the light, if he were painted all around no one would of complained save paint rub.

I liked legends shockwave personally despite cancelling my pre-order, galvatron was a mess.

Takara should of just went megatron 2/initial g1 toy colors rather than shooting themselves in the foot
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>>5981556
So it seems like Maketoys are the only ones who've gotten his back down then.
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>>5981552
I kinda like the opinions shared here, sometimes I'm fooled by a trolls "opinion" but that's because all this time I'm still naive.

I get my news faster from other sources, my issue is I don't understand the opinions as I'm just lurking a foreign website, so I share what I find and gather ones that I can at least understand.

I could share with my local tf community in my country I suppose, but they're extremely slow and far, far too reserved, I do get some entertainment here at least.

Its only when we get over 10+ post shitting up a thread is when the problem is apparent
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>>5981522
I'm trying but you keep posting.
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>>5981556
And mightron's head with takara's, who's gonna headswap?

I wonder though, anyone here bored enough to cobble together the perfect megatron using all of these images?

>>5981560
There are still 2 main issues, the gun barrel's hinge sticks out, not in robot but as a gun you can't miss it, the other is how stylized he is.

You look, you know its a megatron, you know he has alot of character, the issue is it can put off putting depending on your fandom bias
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>>5981566
>the issue is it can put off putting depending on your fandom bias

What I meant to say is

>the issue is it still feels off putting

Its late where I am but glorious megatron calls to me
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>>5981552
>62 replies
>12 posters
>over 30 replies are just shitposting
There is certainly something wrong with a couple of posters here. I always wonder if these are the same posters that tried stirring up Star Wars and Marvel generals it's usually the same fights and lead to the same disproportionate posters/replies in those threads till they stop.
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>>5981566
Takara's looks better than Mightron's imo
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>>5981546
Look how utter shit the rest look in comparison to the official. Really separates the pros from the wannabes.
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>>5981570
Agreed, its just been a subject when people talk about the 3p megatrons.

They already made a 3d printed replacement head for despotron, and some now still like mightron's over the megatron 2.0.

>>5981571
Keep in mind, the comparison shots were cobbled together by an obvious hoarding megatron collector and the 2.0 posed to look intimidating, in a way they'rekinda hurting themselves exposing the screws in his sides
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>>5981431
>>5981434

eyyyyyy.
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>>5981449

not barefoot.
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>>5981582
Go away, degenerate.
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>For those asking where the Takara MP-36 Megatron Gunface originated. It was already being used when the G1 version came out. You can see it from the instructions below. Lockdown wasn't the first one to use it.

W-WHAAAAAAAAAT
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>>5981593
The more you know!
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>>5981593
Ok, so clearly the g1 looked more like an over the shoulder cannon with a big ass scope, the mp looks more like head cannon.

I was having fun but now I need to see more angles to see how accurate this is

>>5981594
Indeed!
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And an easier to work out view of the telescopic laser and particle beam cannon
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>>5981556
Looking at this pic I really don't see what the problem with TT's back is. To me it's as clean as the others, it just uses less large flat parts. It's also the only one with a full back skirt.
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>>5981444
MP Tarantulas.
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>>5981599
Its just the angle; look at his right shoulder and you see part of the the gun resting on it, and the back of the gun is connected to that, not his helmet. Otherwise the barrel would be pegging onto his face.
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>>5981599
Megatron just looks so fun.
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>>5981607
It's about time we get a main line Tarantulas now, he's definately popular enough and he's had 2 exclusives already.
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>>5981617
While I love it I fear we will be lucky to get a MP BW Megatron
I wager we will get a Tigertron deco and dinobot at best in games he next 5 years.
The MP line is very slow for fresh molds
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>>5981617
I'm still not sure why they went for a bulky military APC for him when a bike mold was there to use as well.
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>>5981617
>that head
J U S T
F U N P U B
M Y
S H I T
U P
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>>5981619
>Funpub
>doing the logical thing
kek
Thanks be they're gone.
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>>5981620
>>5981623
Careful anons, you'll trigger Walky and Kira Kira!
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>>5981618
Hopefully that tigertron gets more than a simple redeco with 2 sets of new heads.

He needs longer legs and a bulkier tiger torso
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>>5981437
He looks more silvery here. Not bad...
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What are the best movie figures?
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>>5981678
the new mb line
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>>5981536
>Takara
Love the overall look, and the sexy bell-bottom shins. Feet are a bit narrow, and the gray paint is the worst decision I've ever seen.
>Mightron
Really nice from the waist up. Hate his legs, his shins look skinny and weak. Like the stumpy fusion cannon, though. Looks like it could level a building.
>Despotron
Love the stylization on this guy. Chest proportions are a bit off, but everything else is awesome. His stature makes him look stronger than the others. Expressions on his faces are fantastic.
>Apollyon
lol
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>>5981437
Is this still banned in Australia? Would like to get one without getting charged like some gun-smuggling criminal.
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>>5981536
I honestly still really like Apollyon the best out of the 3Ps, visually at least. I just don't get the love for Mightron, the boring slab of flat, or Despotron, the chunky thing with an ugly face. The mix of slim/chunky areas on Apollyon is really pleasing to me. I particularly don't get the love for Despotron, it looks like Dreamwave art.
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>>5981726
Go away, Keith.
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>>5981718
Depends on the state, technically you *can* own him, legally too but depends where you are. last I checked queensland *only* needs the permit which is free, other states may require bit more to it, like how Victoria requires a letter from the governor to allow the collection of replica firearms.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=20265

This has all *current* known information, the admin and a few members are gonna be trying a few things so keep watch.

As for me personally, I got lucky and got an mp05 without all this stuff, thing is I got him long after the initial buzz, for personal ownership the *only* legal risk you take owning him are

>losing him to customs
>money spent=gone
>the figure is incinerated

If you're a retailer things can get more hairy, so don't do anything silly and try to get 10 of him or something, you can try for a local seller which has minimal risk of detection but its not fool proof, for me I'm thinking about registering the one I have legally even though it cost alot for just 3 years.

Just a big warning, during the initial mp05 witch hunt they were seizing shipments via xray, he was packed in robot mode and they picked up on his silhouette in robot mode, and even up to mp05G gold version they caught them (as the forum admin in link posted explained his process).

So, take a risk, lose a figure, get it cleared, keep it forever, regardless though 2 words of warning

Don't be a dick and wave it around in public because police, and if he's somehow stolen report it to the police, because if they match your prints after some punk robs a store you're fucked m8
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>>5981726
Because dreamwave has fans?

And mightron's front hit our g1 eccentric sweetspots, apollyon just needs better legs and for me he'd be fine
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>>5981729
I honestly don't like most 3Ps aesthetically. Its just, when I think G1 Megatron, I think of his toy first and his animation model second, so I like that Apollyon's whole aesthetics seem to draw equally from both. G1 Megatron has areas that are really thin, and areas that are chunky, and that mix just makes me think "Megatron" more than the other two.
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>>5981678
There are quite a few good ones. If you want a pure fun robot mode get the Protoform Prime.
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>>5981738
Keith please, stop shilling your garbage tier knockoffs.
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Computron is 70 bucks on Amazon.com right now.
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>>5981761
That's a fantastic price. But I have hopes he'll go lower during the holidays.
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>>5981761
Don't scare me like that, he's still 79.99. I'll wait until he's 30% off or more.
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>>5981678
Best period of movie toys was the 2nd movie's sublines, "Hunt for the Decepticons" and "Reveal the Shield".
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>>5981546

Don't the third parties ever hire actual artists to work on their sculpts? Their shit looks so souless while Takara's feel like a living character.
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>>5981779
RTS was pretty gay. HFTD is the shit though.
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So now that the initial reveal hype wore off, I'm really concerned that MP Autismo is going to wind up being Rodimus Prime-tier.

Just looking at his chest, hips and gun mode (from what I can tell from the images), he looks like a mess of joints and levers under all the solid panels. I'm worried that he's going to be a total balljoint former and that getting everything just right on him is going to be a fucking nightmare. I mean for fuck sake, in his gun mode reveal shots almost every single panel on him looks crooked or off slightly. And on top of that I'm worried about how well he stays together. Like if you poke the gun is everything going to untab? if you grab him by the shoulders and turn his waist is his chest just going to explode?

Considering that he's very large though, I hope that means everything on him is going to be extremely stable, which no flimsy levers or tabs on him and such. I'm just skeptical about how well he'll stay together under play.

I'm also really not a fan of the cartoon decepticon logo. How did we go from "good faction logos stamped on, with cartoon stickers as an option" straight to "cartoon logos only, fuck you muh geewun". This is something I genuinely want to write in to Takara to let them know how much I don't like this shit. They could at least do like MP Inferno and have two separate chest plates: one with cartoon and one with clean logos, given that Megs' chest panel is clearly removable. Maybe they could do it as an limited accessory or something but fuck, this is stupid.
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>>5981617
Are you saying that you want an R63 Tarantulas redeco of the Legends Blackarachnid mold? With Tarantulas' head, big purple boobs and all that? That must be what you mean.
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>>5981780
They could be students with a passion, but with limitations.

Got a feeling they have to work with the engineering they have on hand, takara tries to get their stuff right, least in the front

>>5981782
>I'm also really not a fan of the cartoon decepticon logo. How did we go from "good faction logos stamped on, with cartoon stickers as an option" straight to "cartoon logos only, fuck you muh geewun". This is something I genuinely want to write in to Takara to let them know how much I don't like this shit. They could at least do like MP Inferno and have two separate chest plates: one with cartoon and one with clean logos, given that Megs' chest panel is clearly removable. Maybe they could do it as an limited accessory or something but fuck, this is stupid.

They'll include stickers I hope, people want options afterall, that said lately they've been giving us no tampo options so lets hope its clean logo or nothing at the least

As for the rest I just hope his ankles aren't balljointed like mp05, that was a fucking nightmare
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>>5981459
>Literally buying the same toy multiple times

Fucking hell.
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>>5981786
Yep
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>>5981617
Better than the others
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>>5981784
Looking at the best pictures that show his ankles, it looks like the general assembly of the articulation will be similar to MP Shockwave.

Stickers would be nice I guess, but it's not like Takara has had a good track record of giving us actually decent decals. Clearly, they've been putting a lot of work into loading him up with accessories, a no tampo panel or a clean logo panel wouldn't be that much more to ask for.

>>5981783
A Blackarachnia MP would be really cool to have. It's not like she has a significantly complex transformation scheme. The hardest thing about her would be trying to convincingly fold her legs into a spider abdomen.
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>>5981784

It's not just the engineering, the actual face-sculpt and details and what not on the 3Ps just feels so dead and bland. They're the toy-version of people that trace drawings.
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Lets do dis
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>>5981794
I would agree in about 99.999% of cases, but despotron has some great god damn face detail.
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>>5981796
something's afoot
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>>5981796
Sure, I'll just need a UW Computron to do that.

Also:

>Buying G2 Bruticus
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Nobody's talking about tfcon, I see why, lots of 3p things.

Here's a licensed one, 3a optimus prime, aiming for g1 toon accuracy, stylized.

If you hate him wait until you see megatron
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>>5981449
Her hair is too short for that outfit, and she needs a cape. Also give her a friend who always makes fun of her small bust size.
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>>5981780
3P toys are largely designed via CAD (Computer Aided Design) As a result, you can just about create a viable transforming toy without needing to draw anything yourself.

If you look at the Has/Tak side of things, especially Hasbro, a lot of people are hired based on their ability to draw, even if its not particularly well. Since Takara handles the engineering, all that's really needed from hasbro is an ability to understand manufacturing(which is why a lot of Hasbro designers have backgrounds in industrial design) Otherwise, they're wanted for their ability to create interesting ideas. Neither Archer or Warden are great artists(though Archer's a lot better recently). And on the takara side, alot of the designers are also pretty good artists, or collaborate with artists/
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>>5981796
If I had the patience to dig out ALL my CW card packs and boxes, I'd probably have a Lightspeed & foot & foot & foot(etc) tower taller than me.
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Accessories
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>>5981807
>dat head

They almost had me
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As mentioned homage to G1 toy.
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>>5981807
It's way too divided between Studio Ox/Obari proportions, 3A weathering, and generalAshley wood/3A stylization on top of an already stylized design. as a result, it really doesn't please me at all.
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>>5981812
Why didn't they use their ax or flail again in the show?
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>>5981593
Not important, but interesting. Beast Wars Megatron, the toy in Barney's colors, has nearly the same transformation as G1 and Classic Megatron's toys.
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>>5981812
>post accessories
>trip-kremzeek
>no kremzeek accessory like mp05

I don't know who to blame for this

>>5981815
already posted>>5981604 but thank you for your contribution
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>>5981799
I think it looks fucking ugly with the big, puffy lips and squat face. Its detailed, but not great. Looks like fanart done by someone with only a casual remembrance of G1.
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>>5981817
The episodes they were in were a pilot, literally to sell the show, after that gone with the wind.
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>>5981812
>posable flail

That's great, holy shit.

I wish MP Primal had that.

>>5981817
Melee action is really hard to animate well. Could you imagine how much worse the cartoon would look if they told the animators "okay, now make them fist fight for half an episode"
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>>5981593
what's that middle finger flipping me off for?

Is that some kind of rubsign?
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>>5981825
Mp primal has a flail but its diecast, at best swing it around before each picture

>>5981826
Its a rubsign, but kek didn't notice what finger it was, I feel like I'm 11 now
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Good knews, TFG! a Third Party is making a standalone gun, and standalone Sword for Titan Fortress Maximus. Swords based on the on the one packed with the SDCC and Japanese release of FM.

From the name of the company, it sounds like a renamed Dr. Wu.
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>>5981832
We already had the perfect effect set, but the sword is an outright knockoff.

The gun kinda looks like pic related.

Let me guess, buying these will cost as much as a voyager?
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>>5981832
And it doesn't look terrible, nice

Now if only FortMax weren't still 200cad I might be interested in getting him.

>>5981827
Yeah the flail is nice, but you can't pose a chain
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>>5981836
Didn't see a price yet, so no clue. It's a bit hard guessing how high they'll go for. I'm guessing 25 for the sword, 20 for the gun.
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>the transformers MB line is on order stop on hlj
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>>5981781
>RTS was pretty gay.

What the fuck? the line that gave us Windcharger, Wreck-Gar, Lugnut, and Tracks? The line that gave us Jazz, probably the best Deluxe figure ever made(just needs more paint like takara's.) How was that line bad? even the redecoes where cool.
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>>5981812
That dynamic flail chain will be my toys' anal beads.
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>>5981848
I guess he didn't like the rubsign gimmick

I didn't either but I wouldn't call the whole line Bad over that.
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>>5981826
They're flipping IDWfags the bird.
"FUCK YOU MEGS IS A DECEPTICON"
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>>5981848
>even the redecoes where cool.

I think who you replied to is trying to bring up that little vendetta of his, better rop it before we shit it up again
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>>5981848
RTS Jazz is overdesigned
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>>5981869
What the fuck are you talking about? He was barely different from g1
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>>5981848
>probably the best Deluxe figure ever made
No
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>>5981848
>>5981856
Yep, I hate rubsigns. Fuck that cancer.
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>>5981889
What's you suggest is better?
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>>5981890
Wow that's petty. The RTS rubsigns aren't even molded onto the sculpt themselves. You'd really hate on some of the best engineering and figures we ever got just because of something you can replace with a sticker?
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Has there ever been a TF that turned into once of those big boxy ambulances?

All the characters I can think of just turn into weird minivans and trucks
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>>5981894
ROTF Skids or Mudflap.
Seriously. The engineering is pretty involved for something so small. Sure the headsculpt is stupid. But that toy is an engineer's wetdream.
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>>5981899
Engineering isn't enough, the designs have to actually look good. Jazz is a great blend of both.
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>>5981897
It's a shitty gimmick that impedes on my enjoyment of the figure. Versus the Takara versions of said figures, which do not have said shitty gimmick, are fantastic.

Keep in mind this is coming from someone who openly criticizes many of Takara's releases.
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>>5981899
This one?

I actually liked the way these guys looked.

That whole "racist caricatures we can never use again and should have never used in the first place" thing is a really shame
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>>5981898
Prime: RID Ratchet?
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>>5981898
Do you have a pic of what vehicle you're referring to? G1 Ratchet was a van being a fake ambulance but TFP Ratchet and CW First Aid look like ambulances to me.
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>>5981898
CW First Aid.
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>>5981906
I wanna see someone make a Skids version of the SHEEEEIT face
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>>5981909
>>5981910
I mean these big boxy ambulance. That Ratchet toy is pretty close though
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>>5981905
Oh so you're just petty then. You shit on perfectly fine molds just because of a superficial gimmick in one version of the line. Just because one version of the molds had rubsigns don't make the molds themselves bad, which is what your first post implied.
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>>5981913
There's this, but
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>>5981913
So yeah, CW First Aid.
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>>5981918
Not really.
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>>5981916
My first post implied the line was bad, not the molds. It is your hilariously pathetic and incorrect assumption that places this false implication onto my words.

And I find it utterly hilarious how you resort to calling people who dislike what you like "petty". How much is Aaron Archer paying you to defend his trashy gimmick which no one wanted? Or are you just a weak child going through a case of buyer's remorse?
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>>5981909
>The engineering on that toy
Prime Ratchet is underrated as hell
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>>5981924
>My first post implied the line was bad, not the molds

Not him but good question, how are the molds fine if the line is bad, is it their deco, or the retools that were afterthoughts which have little impact on the entirety of the line?
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>>5981924
When you're vague and just say"RTS was gay", it implies you think the line as a whole was bad. Not what you apparently really meant, that the line itself was fine except for an afterthought placed in unobtrusively.
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>>5981939
The gimmick heavily impeded on my overall enjoyment of the molds. Instead of getting a beautifully printed insignia I get an ugly silver sticker that's meant to replicate a 30 year old "gimmick" that was really just a method of verifying the real toys from the KOs.

Takara's versions have my faction insignias, and therefore bypass this stupid gimmick and the problems it poses.
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>>5981947
Correct. The line as a whole was bad, because of the cancer that the gimmick brought about. Removing the gimmick, which is, mind you, incredibly visually obtrusive, removed its flaw, and therefore made it good.
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>>5981949
Its a bit of a nit pick I gotta say but understandable, really the toys were fine its just a nit pick.

Funny how it got reversed when the TAV line shown up, the fact they retooled lines JUST so they could have indents for their stupid scan stickers actually helped me seek out the generations insecticons.

Japanese owners are gonna be crying that their shrapnel's aren't gonna match properly.
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>>5981956
>TAV Vehicon general does not have the TAV sticker indent nor the Arms Micron extra ports
So fucking lucky.
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>>5981963
Too bad that his robot mode looks so fucking bad.

I mean seriously, the car mode is fantastic but that robot mode is just...
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>>5981970
>that robot mode is just...
One my favorites and one of the most well-liked from the series and you almost never hear any criticism about it?
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>>5981909
G1 ratchet's van is used as an ambulance here in Asia. We don't get the boxy ambulance trucks from the west.
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>>5981963
good fucking lord, that guy looks like an orgasm
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>>5981975
No, I meant the deco for that specific version of the figure.

Reading isn't really your strong suit, is it?
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>>5981975
He's talking about the lack of paint in robot mode for this particular deco. all the paint budget went to the car's exterior
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>>5981975
Are you the same defensive anon that sperg out when some one noted you were missing 3 teams from CW?
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>>5981993
>still harping on something that happened because of salty geewunners
Man, do you people not have anything better to do other than to shitpost about older shitposting?
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>>5981993
>>5981994
can it both of you
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>>5981459
Guy who asked for the photos here, thanks for doing more!

Normally I don't get repaints or retools but CW was the exception and I found myself getting quite a few, some of my favorite TF's came out of this line. Hopefully they make other combiners in the future and keep using this system, it really should live on.
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>>5981996
If rumors are true, we're getting a CW Abominus and Predaking. This means that the system is very likely to stay for better.
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>>5981996
I don't see a good reason why they'd abandon the combiner port.

I do hope they do some more combining sets down the line though, yeah.

>>5981999
I hope Predaking is a set like Devy and not a scrambler
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>>5982000
>i hope Predaking is underengineered oversized trash
Stop.
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>>5982001
I don't care about the engineering and size as long as it looks good. It's what I thought of devestator as well

As good and functional as the combiner port is it really doesn't lend well to very cohesive designs in my opinion, which Predaking very much so had
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>>5981999
I forgot about the beast combiner leaks, I used to doubt them but they ended up all being true. The next batch seems like it'll be pretty crazy, hopefully they make a worthwhile mold for Deathsaurus.
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>>5981999
>we're getting a CW Abominus and Predaking.
Those were listed alongside Black Zarak and Landcross, most likely fake.
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>>5982008
>i don't care about how well a toy scales with my collection and how well it plays as long as it looks good
>implying that CW devy even looks good in the first place
Jesus christ, people like you are the reason that abomination exists.
>>5982013
Oh god, Deathsaurus is a godsend. If he scales well with MP Star Saber it'll be the greatest thing ever.

>>5982014
Blackzarak is possible for something 3-4 years down the pipeline. Dunno about Landcross though.
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>>5982014
>Those were listed alongside Black Zarak

You know he's going to end up a TR Scorponok repaint by Takara, probably as an exclusive sometime after they do the basic Scorp deco.

Or he'll end up some SDCC $300+ shitfest ala TR Metro.
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>>5982017
>Blackzarak is possible for something 3-4 years
That's even more of a reason to doubt the leak because they don't plan molds that far ahead.

>>5982021
unlikely since Hasbro shot down both Brave and RiD/Car Robots Fort Max as this years exclusive.
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>>5981996
I'm quite surprised 3Ps haven't made much use of the CW combiner ports and pegs. With all the complaints and issues about CW, you'd think that 3Ps would be churning out dozens of alternate torsos and limbs compatible with CW.
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>>5981999
I really doubt we will see either with how much better TR is selling and how poor all the gift sets are doing. Takara could waste the money on molds themselves but I doubt this where they rarely engineer anything themselves outside of MP. Doesn't help the lasts non mp engineering they spent money on was GO and i wasn't a big hit.

>>5982000
>I don't see a good reason why they'd abandon the combiner port.
Hasbro/Takara don't really need reasons beyond the gimmick running it's course. Hasbro has engineered about 20 gimmicks in as many years and only a few return. Even with the thrilling 30 Armada molds they just put 5mm ports and no true gimmicks or even mini con partners for them.
Also the CW combiner port is the 5th port model made and they will likely make a 6th if things go as planned.
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>>5982027
That could be running risks into actual copyright issues that would get them in trouble. Back when they did it with the power core combiners they had to be very careful with how they made them.
But for what it's worth they might start pouring ideas out once CW is officially ff the markets like what they did with Power Core third party.
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>>5982040
>Power Core third party
Man I wish these had seen a bigger release. They're impossible to find now.
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>>5981898
There was the Power Core Combiners one, Stakeout.
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>>5981678
>movie
>best anything
Getaloadofthisguy.jpg
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>>5981796
Somebody give him a hand.
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>>5981981
>those elbows
Garbage.
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>>5981815
>>5981604
Wait, couldn't the his grey barrel fit inside the dangling black cylinder of the canon mode as a sort of way to feed it power or something, in the original toy?
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>>5981431
BOI
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>>5982065
>everything movie is shit meme

nigga please
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>>5982065
The movies might be shit, but the 2009-2010 movie lines was the true Golden Age of Transformers toys.
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>>5982195

More like CW and TR are.
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>>5982195
I know, right?
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I hate scalpers
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>>5982272
I'm glad I got the voyager. bigger and better.
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>>5982272

Fuuuuck is he out now?
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>>5982287
Starting to come out. Last I checked, not even their site displays Brainstorm (and it should, since he's an exclusive).
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>>5982287
No.
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>>5982272
Take heart if it's anything like the ML exclusives they will stock them very well both in store and online.
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>>5982311
I hope.
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>>5982311
>>5982417
I'll be surprised if they don't clog shelves with him
He's being released right on the verg on the holiday buying frenzy so he will get stock super well
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>>5981730
Wow Australia sounds like a totalitarian police state?
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>>5982272
Scalpers need to be shot desu
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>>5982459
Well to be fair, MP-05 is an extremely accurate gun replica ignoring his scaled up size, and in the areas where he's permitted but regulated, I think that's fine.

But yes Straya is fucking horrible to live in and probably the absolute worst place to be a hobbyist for anything. If it isn't fucking illegal because half the country is a nanny state then it's fucking overpriced because of their retarded currency and customs.
If you ever wondered why the only thing stayans ever seem to do is get shit faced and wrestle kangaroos for fun, it's because that's the only thing that isn't illegal there
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>>5981437
Prime and Megatron look so bad next to each other. It makes Prime's torso look too long, or his legs too short, and Megatron's torso looks freaking tiny on top of the diaper.
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>>5982518
Those are their proportions in the show. Prime is like half-abdomen while Megatron is a pair of shoulders on hips.
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>>5982523
I understand that, and in a cartoon, I guess it works, but I don't like it in toy form. Plus Megatron's torso looks even more shrunken than it was typically shown in the cartoon, and Prime's waist looks extended.
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>>5981431
OP, add the meme (cant see shit) on the bottom of scope head megatron
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>>5981431
OP, don't, the guy above me is a known faggot.
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>>5982282
>that ugly floppy piece of shit with a headmaster gimmick that barely works
>"bigger and better"
Team "Buyer's Remorse" is back!
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Canadians: Is it gonna be feasible to find a CW Brawl and Vortex in the wild at this point or have I missed the boat?
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>>5982682
Not that anon, but I've had no floppiness from mine and his headmaster sits fine. Did I just get lucky?
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>>5982707
Yes. Very lucky.

He still looks ugly as fuck and has garbage tier proportions though.
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>>5982710
Subjective points that I disagree with. But I'm glad I didn't get a lemon.
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>>5982713
>subjective
>his arms are longer than his entire fucking torso
>his headmaster has car door arms
>despite being a voyager his head is still too fucking large
>his guns are tiny dinky pistols that look ugly as shit in his elongated arms
>he has the proportions of Unit-03
>"subjective"
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>>5982688
They're gone. And even when they were available they were hard to find.

Just get the UW set. It's better anyway.
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>>5982717
Yes, subjective. His arms are fine.
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>>5982717
I don't want to meet someone who's arms are shorter than their torso. That would look fucking weird.
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>>5982722
Everytime I read a post like this I feel a mixture laughter and pity. Laughter at the excellent bait and fantastic responses it will bring, and pity at the fact that someone somewhere out there probably believes this.
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>>5982722
Damn. I've got Swindle, Blast Off and Onslaught already. I prefer the CW version for the price, anyways.
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>>5982728
Well if you got 3/5 for decent prices then you might as well just deal with paying scalper prices for the last two.
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>>5982727
Go to bed, Hasbrocuck. It's past your bedtime. I'm sure your mom will buy you more Hasbro toys at Walmart tomorrow as a reward for going to bed on time.
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>>5982724
His arms look exactly like this fucking thing. The toy deserves to be ripped apart like it too.
>>5982725
There's a line between having your hands end just about right below your hips and having them shoot below your fucking knees. T30 Brainstorm is the latter, and his tiny body size doesn't help either.
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>>5982729
Yeah I bought them today, actually. Got them at a small con $20 CAD for Swindle and Blast Off and $30 for Onslaught so I think I did alright.
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>>5982733
Funnily enough my first CW purchase was exactly that. I got Brawl and Vortex later on.

Your best bet is buying from local online retailers or going hunting from store to store.

>>5982730
Pic very related. Great bait but you fucked it up there.
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>>5982732
>he couldn't find a brainstorm in stores so he acts angry and pretends to not be bitter
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>>5982736
I actually saw him everywhere. Fucking everywhere. He shelfwarmed to oblivion. When I went overseas for holiday and tried toy shopping he was also there, shelfwarming to no end. Keep in mind I'm talking about a trip that occured about a week ago.

I fucking hate that thing, but definitely not because I want it, and certainly not because I couldn't find it.
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So what is a "good' price for a masterpiece Grimlock
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>>5982739
Don't bother with the original MP-08. Get the Reximus Prime KO
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>>5982737
Where the fuck do you live? I NEVER saw him in stores, and I only saw Roadbuster while traveling.
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>>5982739
It still floats around for MSRP from most sellers that still have him stocked.

I wouldn't bother with him though and just get >>5982740 instead. They made him before they decided on a scale for MPs and he's undersized compared to anyone else.
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>>5982737
Yeah it sounds like it really affected you sitting on store shelves like that.We'll warm up some hot chocolate and get you some gummy bears while you tell me how he hurt you, will that make you feel all better?
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>>5982732
The only one of your complaints I can really agree with is that his arms are long. I usually just keep his double elbow joint "accordioned" which basically fixes it with no problem. Overall the figure looks fine imo. But it's fine if you don't like him. It's weird how aggressive you're being about what other people like though.

Actually yeah the headmaster bot mode looks lame too. That's fair.

Gonna get the the new one too. I like him as well.
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>>5982744
MRSP being like, 160usd or so
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Are these ever coming out over here in the west? The earlier waves of minicons (aka garbage) clogged every Walmart/Target shelf for ages, but then they stop bringing them in completely just as the line got good...

I know there's the 4-pack out there with the recolors of some weaponizers, but I want this dragon cannon in his proper sexy black.
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>>5982757
>Instead of any decent accesories he has a pair of shitty pistols that look like fucking Nerf guns.

But that's pretty much how his original guns looked?
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>>5982747
Hey someone actually saved this pic....niiiice.
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>>5982777
>continuing to baw this hard
>misusing "projection" this hard
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>>5981431
He's just trying to get that underskirt shot of megaempress. The sly dog
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It is hard not to regret this purchase but I don't.
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>>5981507

No, she has no alt mode at all. She's a holographic projection.
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>>5982803
Good, you shouldn't.
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>>5982803
Aw man, Legends Fort Max looks damn good and I can get him for a decent price but I can't bring myself to do it because of shitty dull grey Cerebros and the legs being glued together.
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>>5982812
>accurate grey Cerebros

ftfy
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>>5982803
Well, you might if you were avoiding the SDCC version since this>>5981832 is coming out now.
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>>5982812
I only justified it at 300CAD because duty/exchange/shipping would've had him at about 380. And considering TR Fort Max is 230 here without the master sword, it made way more sense.

Seriously though having the anime accurate head is actually worth it, hated the hasbro one despite being fine or preferring everyone of the TR deluxes.
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>>5982732
You're a dumbass, look at where his hands sit in relation to the start of his legs. He's proportionate.
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>>5982823
I can get him at exactly $180. I still don't know if I should do it.

I don't give a flying shit about accuracy really, I just want it to look good.

>>5982828
Looks fine to me. Especially so in comparison to dull grey Fortress, which, no matter how accurate he may be, still looks like trash. That and his legs being glued shut are stopping me from investing in getting this guy.

>>5982824
Not a chance. Try again, buyer's remorse.
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>>5982821
>only being slightly accurate to the source material but actually looking good.

>this.

GEEZ, anon, it's almost like opinions are subjective!
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>>5982752
HOLY TITS I NEED THAT
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>>5982833
Goddamn I wish I had mod powers.
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>>5982837
There's also a blue autobot verison. I wanted to get one, but I'm not really sure if they look good on Metro, or FM.
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>>5982833
>>5982844
To put things into perspective of my dilemma:

SDCC Fort Max is $175 USD, shipping not included. He also has the much better deco overall. However, his master sword is unpainted red plastic and his QC is ridiculous.

Legends Fort Max is $180 USD, shipping not included. He has better QC and all around looks great. However, Fortress is a shitty dull "accurate" grey and his legs are glued shut, meaning no fanmodes.

What do?
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>>5982842
this one right

totally gonna hunt this down
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>>5982833
>he thinks toys are an investment
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>>5982853
>what is figure of speech
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>>5982857
>why do other people claim to have opinions equally valid to my own?
>>
Just report him, he's shitting up the threads.
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Comparison of alt modes for masterpiece megatrons.

Looks like mp36 is following the same mp pattern the seekers follow, compromised alt modes for improved robot form, mp05 clearly was all about the gun
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>>5982851
You could take the third option, which is getting the Hasbro version for cheap, the buying the upgrade sets to get a sword, and gun.

The only other option is getting the Legends version.
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>>5982881
If I have the opportunity to inspect the SDCC version in hand before buying it should I take that?
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>>5982888
I doubt a store's going to let you open him up to check if anything's broken. At best you'll see if his hips are cracked through the he clear package, but I've heard the blue covers for the back of the legs can be broken in package. Oh, and you won't be able to check if any stickers are missing unless you turn him around, since most of them are there.
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>>5982895
Fucking christ, alright then.

So if I get the Legends version, is there anything I can do about his legs being glued shut?
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>>5982710
>garbage tier proportions though.
An alien robot doesn't have to have human proportions.
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>>5982905
Correct. It still needs to look decent though, and Mr. Lanky Longarms is the exact opposite of that.
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>>5982900
I own the sdcc, one of the stickers are missing but other than that nothing major, if he ends up being a dud as in broken surely you can send him back, if done via mail just make sure THEY pay to ship it back.

As for the legends version and his glued legs no idea, its a shame they taken that feature out as it made for good fan modes
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>>5982900
It's a high priced collector's item, I'm sure they can give you a little leeway at customer service. If you really wanted to you could open it up in the parking lot and see if everything is ok. The store people would probably be pretty sympathetic concerning $130-170 purchase.
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>>5982900
Sadly, no. They apparently glued more than just he sides, they also glued the holes on the inside so it's extremely hard to do that.

I remember someone posting a great product that could remove glue very easily, but it's pointless if it can't get to it.
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More 3a transformers stuff.

Yeah, it doesn't transform, they look odd, this is a taste kinda thing, and for me I'm tempted by the megatron just incase I can't get the mp somehow
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>>5982909
When my Weirdwolf came in with the broken hinge I managed to get it replaced, but they forced me to pay for shipping. Thankfully it amounted to less than a dollar. I don't know how it'll go with Fort Max, hence I'm wondering if they'll allow me to inspect it inhand if I go to their warehouse and take a look at it.

>>5982910
Hmm, probably. I'll give it a try sometime soon and see how it goes then.

>>5982912
Jesus, it's as if they were given an obligation to have a major design flaw and couldn't meet their quota so they just threw this, of all things, in. How does anyone fuck up this hard?
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>>5982908
Decent compared to what? Its an alien robot.
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>>5982880
Well, not a gun fan and besides a few times Megs will be in bot mode so the gun mode isn't really an issue.
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>>5982916
These just look ugly, not because they don't transform, but just aesthetically. I really like that MAS Optimus. I love Obari and Sentinel Dancouga is my favorite mecha toy, but 3A just doesn't seem to really get what makes that Obari/Studio Ox style look cool.
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>>5982918
>Jesus, it's as if they were given an obligation to have a major design flaw and couldn't meet their quota so they just threw this, of all things, in

Technically its not a part of the intended design, takara thought removing it would help since the fan modes created by it are a tad unstable.

Which is sad since some fan modes have become official in a sense like scourge's dragon mode
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>>5982916
>stupid fucking Tron lines in the fusion cannon

I want western designers to get over their retarded Tron light fetish.
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So how do you address robots that combine together to make a bigger robot?

>combiner
>gestalt
>by its name and no sub-division
>cluster fuck
>retardicus!
>Dunno man there isn't any set cannon to me

Feel free to throw in some oc
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>>5982852
That set just got marked down massively in Singapore along with earlier RID stuff like blue card Warriors, Deployers and minicon battle packs. Quite tempted to buy a second set.
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>>5982949
Separate the name into 3 bits. Arms, torso, and legs, and I make up the name from that.

Grand Galvatron, and Sky Reign are the only exceptions.

No I remember that I was a bit disappointed that the Sky Reign deluxes never went on clearance. I only really wanted Ironhide, and Hound, but still.
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>>5982949
super robot lifeform
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>>5981465
To appeal to Geewunners.
But it's bizarre because the fucking Predacons were (in a couple of continutites, at least), actually founded by Razorclaw, an actual G1 beast-former.

And then you get Maximals like Grimlock, who started as beast-mode Autobots, became car-mode Maximals, and THEN gained back their beast modes.
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>>5981500
I'd go with Voyager, myself.
Although sometimes Leader works, because you want trucks and tanks to actually be fuckhuge.

If we're talking early days Orion Pax, then I go with Deluxe.
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>>5981617
If we do get MP Tarantulas, I really hope it's the Transmetal version. I'm all for a decent season 1 variant (god knows it's about time), but the Transmetal will always be my favourite take on the character.
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>>5982959
That set has been in the US too for ages.

The dragon recolor does still look good.

Lord ballfist looks a bit awkward in that color but I can pretend it's a jack-o-lantern.

Hammer is alright though the robot mode is pretty weak.

And lastly the spear thing is just weak in both bot mode and weapon mode.

All in all it's something I'd pick up at a discount but probably not at full price.
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>>5981678
Ransack.
I really regret not buying this little guy when I had the chance.

I'm not normally a fan of Scout-sized planes (major scalefag, I won't lie) but he's a biplane, for crying out loud!
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>>5983011
>>5981678
Here's another good scout plane.
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>>5981678
Mindwipe, Skystalker and Bludgeon are a fantastic trio.
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>>5983019
I always wanted to get that guy but he fell off my radar when I was looking at all the new stuff that was out in stores.
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>>5981906
weird thing is, I never got a "black" vibe off of the Twins like most people claim, they always felt more white trash than anything
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Since we're getting ruination/baldingus as the next UW release, could they be planning to give liokaiser a massive retool using megatronia and him to scrape up some necessary funds?


Here is what I THINK they could do.

>use the silverbolt mold, retooled the same way as scattershot was retooled into liozack/liokaiser
>Use same molds as jet guys but retool their chest
>Either use same molds as tank guys but with retooled sections or even use the retooled drillhorn mold again
>add additional ports and have a legends class blackjack mold act as a chest/waist attachment

How extensive do we think liokaiser would be, or will they shit on us for believing in them?
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>>5983043
They were a mix of both to me. Black trash, if you will.
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>>5983043
Bay was doomed to be pick apart by everything during 2 becuase he went ahead with the filming of the movie even though the screen writers strike was going on, basically media was witch hunting at that point and Bay was a target like everyone else
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>>5983019
Who is that?
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>>5983043
Same here, dude.

Although maybe it's just that I'm used to living in an area with a lot of white trash and no black people.
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>>5983050
DOTM Hatchet
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>>5983046
Anon, we're not even sure if they'll make a Leokaiser. You could assume they'll make him since the last few releases have virtually no new retooling or new molds (unless they give Baldigus his improvements over Bruticus), but that still doesn't mean anything.
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I hate to do this but it seems there is evidence now that the mp jazz that was teased was, infact a lacked 3p

>Maketoys MTRM-09 Downbeat

Just posting to crush the dreams of wishful anons, gotta admit the hands looked like mp hands
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>>5982949
Combiner and Gestalt are the main ones, unless a more specific term is given

>>5983049
true, he probably should have waited till it was over, ROTF probably would have been closer to DOTM's quality in that scenario

>>5983053
I think it's their voices more than anything, definitely sounded more white in that regard
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>>5983046
I doubt they will do anything beyond compromising to an weapon limb for the missing member
Takara hasn't been bold enough to do anything major yet. Basically:
First two UW just got copies of the same mold with different heads
Straight repaint
Completely OC limb
Two retooled heads and 3 repaints
Completely OC limb and slight retool to one other
Heavy retool but no new limbs
Repaint
Repaint

Love or hate it Takara plays off what Hasbro pays for. It seem they just put all their own budget into MPs and rightly so for the market they work with.
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>>5983054
Looked him up.
If they made a bigger version, he'd make a damn fine movie Sky Lynx.
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>>5983059
I say why not?

>legends headmasters getting screen accurate heads
>rumors of star saber in tr

Its not major evidence (hell not even close), I just think it'll be sad if they miss the chance to make another japanese character that people know, much less let the hasbro version butcher it without their own attempt (sorry I'm still salty over the whole deathzaras thing, I hoped they'd pull off major wizardry and retool him into a bipedal robot)

>>5983064
That would be shitty if he ended up as the third repaint in a row.

I'm at least expecting liozack being made more true to form at the least
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>>5982969
How tall could these guys get?
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>>5982880
It depends if you want a Transformer character that transforms into a real object or the other way round.
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>>5983074
>That would be shitty if he ended up as the third repaint in a row.
They are doing Skyreign that short of Ratchet/Smokescreen is a 1 - 1 of what we got. I wouldn't bat an eye if they just rework them as descendants or something and left them be
>I'm at least expecting liozack being made more true to form at the least
If you are lucky they will make a 5th retool of Silverbolts mold
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>>5981730
I think AUS still thinks people could still use an MP Megatron gun to threaten people from long distance.

But not with a sci-fi Megatron gun?
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>>5983088
>If you are lucky they will make a 5th retool of Silverbolts mold
Which I personally would prefer unless they can find a solution with the skylynx mold.

I honestly don't mind retools as long as they can stand out from each other like ultra magnus and PMOP
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>>5982949

Combiner or Gestalt.
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>>5983075
that one is 70cm
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>>5983098
To put that into perspective: That's 3 inches taller than Metroplex.

Fight when?
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>>5983091
>But not with a sci-fi Megatron gun?
Because he'll be easier to identify upon sight rather than something that does resemble a real world weapon.

Take the DL-44 heavy blaster pistol, han solo's pistol of choice, also banned from australia because it looks too much like the Mauser C96.

The 3p megatrons would count as well but they slip under the rader due to the underground nature, that and being packed in robot mode helps, if they were packed in gun form regardless to their accuracy to most people they're guns.

So yeah, if you're in an allyway at night and someone pulls a megatron walther p38 you'll shit yourself but if they pulled a hasbro neratron you'll only wonder how hard they can hit you before it shatters
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>>5983101
Posts like this makes me wish people would have bigger balls to repeal stupid laws, instead of wishing for toy companies to package things differently because their country is shit.
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>>5982969
This guy is the very definition of a clusterfuck
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>>5983122
Not necessarily shit, we've had people hold up stores with replica firearms in the past which may of influenced the laws, the real problem is each state handles them differently.

In Western Australia, it is PERFECTLY legal to have, and if there is any hassle, you just need a FREE permit to get customs to let him go, other states however a bit touchy with this stuff, especially victoria which requires an approval letter from the Governor allowing him to come in, that cost $200aud, that last 3 years, and that letter requires a referee who works in a government institution like a bank manager, and a safe storage place like a safe or gun locker, no open display like living room display cabinet.

The video game laws are fucking stupid though, clearly made to shut people up and enough to let mortal combat in, yet games like syndicate which ONLY IN CONTEXT makes it worse than mortal kombat, is banned even once we got r-18+ games.

I imported my mortal kombat kollectors edition during the pre r-18 days and I bought syndicate while on holidays, no fucks given, it just pisses me off with megatron because he will cost more
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>>5983122
I would totally play a video game with finger-guns, not gonna lie.
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>>5983122
It's a lose/lose
WV had a shooting this year that lead to 2 kids deaths. The teenager had a custom pink and teal glock and the officer mistook for a toy and approach him slowly asking him to lower the gun, this lead to the officer and several others injured as well as the two fatalities. Most people blame the officer but that's highly unfair because if that officer shot him those hollow point rounds would have likely killed the kid and if that gun was a toy we still blame the officer.

That situation is ultimately what leads to the compromise of eliminating toy guns thus ensure when the officer sees the gun it's a safe bet it's real and he should act accordingly.
It's not a fix all by a long shot, that retard got killed recently holding that black and grey Motormaster and many other accidentally cop shot outs happen for similar reasons.

Also actual shit countries don't really care about kids playing with fake guns because fatalities are so high there a small child getting shot over it is the least of their worries.
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>>5983137
are you me?
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>>5983139
>that retard got killed recently holding that black and grey Motormaster and many other accidentally cop shot outs happen for similar reasons
Last I read, that "dude" with the motormaster (first identified as a toy truck and wasn't until more clear shots shown otherwise) was autistic, he didn't get shot it was his career who was black, laying on the ground with him, arms raised, and he didn't die but he sure as hell was pissed, especially when he asked the officer who did and the response was "I don't know".

UNLESS your story was another incident
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>>Fans whine and cry for a gun Megatron.

>>Hasbro gives them Classics Megatron.

>>Fans whine and cry and demand he be like G1.

>>Takara gives them Masterpiece Megatron.

>>Fans continue to whine and cry.

>>Takara gives them this new Megatron

MFW when fans continue to whine and cry even upon being given what they ask for.

You must get some sort of enjoyment out of proving me right. You do it so often.
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>>5983167
Easily nit picked into oblivion

>classics megatron
Not everyone was into these reimaginings, I love nerfatron (more into the henkei version of course) but not everyone does especially with his shell wings
>takara mp05
12 days is amazing to design him in, even more so his gunmode, the fact he is worse looking than the cheaper g1 toy is offputting
>takara mp36
People hate the back but takara are front and side people so the back is often neglected, the fact he's so panel heavy as a gun just goes they went in the other direction away from the old mp05.

Overall people will never be completely pleased which is why 3p's exist, I still remember people crying over mp01 and mp10, and as much as I love mp10 his head ain't quite like the g1 show but I ain't gonna cry over it
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>>5983136
You guys deserve nothing if you're going to let them cow you.
Good for Western Aussieland for having balls, unless they don't allow video games to be played either.

>>5983139
>cop got shot for approaching a guy with a gun in a reasonable manner
>kid got shot for holding a truck
Damned if you dont use overly excessive violence to take control of a situation, damned when you do.

Either way, people are bitching a hell of a lot over cops being overly violent now.

BTW, i can't find any info on that teal gun being used to shoot a cop. Or that transformer shooting.
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>>5983177
lolololololololol found the transformer shooting

Hilarious video.

Has nothing to do with guns, just dumb cops.
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>>5983174
>People hate the back

Who the fuck stares at the back of their toy though? Do they pose him facing the wall? Yes, a nice, kibble-less back is good and all that, but fuck, most 'bots have a ton of shit hanging off them from all sides, even MP's.
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>>5983190
Most TFs will typically have some dangling bits or smooth panels on their backs at most. MP36's back looks like someone pulled up some floor boards of a house and exposed the ground heating and a big "this is where the head goes in gun mode" shaped hole.

I don't really care about the backs but MP36's really looks like shit.
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>>5983177
>unless they don't allow video games to be played either
The video game ruling is the same for all states.

Dunno man, waiting to see if the laws have changes in the last few years, maybe if I can just post my mp collection and say "him im a collector i aint gonna shoot nobody lol" it'll be easier than giving money to my fucked up state
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>>5983190
>Who the fuck stares at the back of their toy though?
People who take pride in their photography work and take pics of more than just the front?

The takara mp backs are really meh in most cases, like the mp datsuns, hot rodimus, the seekers, its kinda a worry for mp megatron when his is the worst
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New >>5983234
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>>5982870
Yes, massa.
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>>5983144
>keep up with the news
>endless blm riots over police shootings
>news about doctor gets shot in the middle of the road while taking care of an autistic black kid holding a toy
>just now hear that the toy is fucking Motormaster

Holy hell that's hilarious, also we need to get cops binoculars, they wouldn't be in such a freak out mode all the time if they have all the tools they need to analyze the situation.
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>>5983060
Nope. The "leaked" MP Jazz is a totally different figure. In fact, MakeToys revealed Downbeat before that leak happened.
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>>5982748
I actually love how this guy looks, even if it's kind of a shitty toy. The arms may be a tad long if we're talking human proportions, but you can find people whose hands are almost at their knees. If we're looking for human proportions in our Transformers, then almost every single one has shins that are way too long and thighs that are too short.
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>>5982921
Agreed, which makes it pretty stupid that I wouldn't just accept G1 Megatron as non-transforming figure that could look correct without compromises, but I still want it to transform into something, even if it looks kind of shitty.
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>>5983043
I'd go with white trash "wiggers" too.
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>>5983450
I wonder what will happen once this pattern is confirmed and people will just start waiting on 3P MPs of 84/85 characters until takara does them a few months later. some people will prefer 3P aesthetics,abut a lot of people will jump ship. Maybe 3Ps will focus on toy accuracy/modernized designs while Takara focuses on show accuracy? Inferno and the 3P Inferno is a good example of both 3P and official interpretations being valid.
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