Transformers General /tfg/ "nightbeats are on the case"

>>5911392
I approve wholly of this general.

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>>5911392
Stale bread
>>5910426

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>>5911392

>>5911402
thanks dr legbeat

Titans Returns

Wave 4
Titanmaster:
>Grotesque
>Ranger
>Hosehead
>Arcee

Legends:
>Cliffjumper
>Huffer
>Seaspray

Deluxes:
>Quake
>Krok
>Topspin
>Kup

Voyagers:
>Broadside

Leaders:
>Overlord.

Wave 5
Titanmasters:
>Battletrap
>Repungus
>Shuffler
>Toraizer

Legends:
>Cosmos
>Hubcap
>Chase

Deluxes:
>Perceptor
>Crosshairs
>Slugslinger
>Misfire

Voyagers:
>Octane
>Blitzwing

Leaders:
>Skyshadow

Wave 6
Titanmasters:
>Optimus Prime
>(Ramhorn as confirmed by Mr Chaos)

Legends:
>Freeway
>Searchlight

Deluxes:
>Needlenose
>Nightbeat
>Blood
>Carnivac

Voyagers:
>Apeface
>Snapdragon

Leaders:
>Deathsaurus

Speed Set:
>Leader Quickswitch
>Voyager Starconvoy
>Fastlane
>Nautica
>Cloudraker
>Titanmaster Thunderclap

Strength Set
>Leader Magnus Prime
>Voyager Tidal Wave
>Iron Apex
>Pounce
>Wingspan
>Titanmaster ???

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>>5911406
>>Voyager Starconvoy

I don't remember hearing about this before.

So what's with the little tabs of the red half of Fort Max's blue and red "command center"?

I wish it did something besides be a block.

>>5911407
It's just the Octane/Optimus mold with a new head based on pre-existing guesses.

>>5911411
I believe you can attach the Blaster/Soundwave or PMOP/Ultra Magnus base modes to him using those tabs

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>>5911406
It's a fun thing, I couldn't give a single fuck about legend Bumblebee, but I'd totally buy Cliffjumper and the two throttlebots
The power of characterization I guess

>>5911406
With the current QC disasters I don't think I can get myself to buy the sets. I've had a Hardhead missing half of his biceps swivel piece, but at least singles are easy to exchange at Walmart/Target.

>>5911406
lotta decepticon leaders, if this is true...I wonder if they're gonna balance it out

>>5911429
We had just as many in CW it just didn't feel that way because 3 of them were straight repaints

>>5911429
Overlord/Sky Shadow were pulled from retailer databases so they are confirmed. It's only Deathsaurus who is more sketchy.

>>5911429

its funny how much more leader Class Decepticons there are over Autobots.

also Quickswitch and Magnus Prime are both Autobots, could easily pack them with Overlord, Sixshot, Deathsaurus or Sky Shadow.

>>5911440
>its funny how much more leader Class Decepticons there are over Autobots.

You need a big bad guy for all your little heroes to fight.

>>5911425
That why I want a Rumble (blue).

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>>5911442

>>5911440

yeah that's true, I guess I was thinking more along the lines of new molds instead of repaints/retools

>>5911422
Won't fit at all.

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>>5911450

Oh.

Well they could do a Star Saber and Victory Leo. Dai Atlas as well.

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Just got Classics Smokescreen in the mail today. I've never had any version of this mold, but I rather like it. Since taking these pictures I've also learned that his feet slide down which makes him even better. I also made it so his missles could tuck up under his arms to store nearly away in bit mode.

I'll probably try to pick up Prowl for some parts switching. Both he and Prowl might also be due for some repainting and decals.

>>5911453
Overlord and Alpha Trion as retools of Star Saber/Victory Leo are no-brainers. I just hope Takara realizes this.

>>5911402
THANK DR LEGBEAT

>>5911406
>Speed Set
>Strength Set
Are these giftsets or something? The fuck are these?

>>5911411
That piece used to be Metroplex's shoulder cannon.

>>5911468
Like the Computron/Leokaiser/CW G2 Boxsets.

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Anybody know when the Platinum
Edition boxset is going to be released? Its out for inflated prices on Ebay but for a Target Exclusive it sure isn't appearing at any Targets I've seen...

>>5911480

I can't believe they screwed up Springer's waist.

>>5911479
>a leader
>a voyager
>three deluxes
>a titan master
These sound pretty fucking expensive.

>>5911487
How much is the Platinum Autobot set?
That is a Leader, Voyager and 3 deluxes.

>>5911487
there is still some debate on the number of deluxes. some people are arguing two others are saying three and that two of the clones might be mainline releases instead.

>>5911489
>Platinum set
>Leader
>Voyager
>3 Deluxes

Knowing plat prices, probably over $800 and your anal virginity.

>>5911493
Can I just give the anal virginity? I'm broke AF

>>5911487
I thought that was just the in-house term they used to refer to how they were going to organize the next waves. I really don't want to buy more shot just to give PMOP an upgrade.

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So since Funpub is Rippin pieces, let's reminisce on all the good things they've done over the years.

>>5911483
Its just mistransformed, he has waist swivel, just need to rotate it and then turn the thights.

>>5911504
A lot of the ones in "Garbage" look good.

>>5911503
No someone went back and listened to the podcast and it seemed to have been 2 boxsets.

>>5911504

BW Megs
>Good

Deathsaurus, Animated Jackpot and Motormaster.
>Acceptable.

lol no.

>>5911406
The fact that Ranger, Arcee, and Hosehead are head only is really sucky, but everything else sounds great.

I'm gonna be pissed if we never get a Twintwist to go with our Topspin though.

>>5911406
I think the strength set's Titan Master is called Powerhouse. Transmissions such a thing and said it'd use diecast.

>>5911505
Then the legs will be switched.

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>>5911406
Where's Huffer, Windcharger, Black Zarak, Dinobot, and the combiners? I assume if the combiners are real they'll be boxsets?

>>5911504
A few of those, like Sentinel Maximus, and the viper twins, predate fun pub.

>>5911521
That "leak" was obviously fake.

>>5911529
Didn't that other leak mention Abominus, though?

>>5911504

I'm pretty sure BotCon Dinobot's head is just Armada Hoists since Longrack was a retool of Hoist.

>>5911532
No, Abominus was first mentioned with Predaking and Black Zarak.

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>>5911521

Maybe 2018?

>>5911529
To be honest we don't know about the credibility of any of the recent leaks. And Chinese Social Media is notorious for because inaccurate to the point people have gone to jail after spreading rumors about potential coups and radioactivity that never happened.

>>5911538
The podcast leaks are almost 100% accurate.

I've really been wanting to get tr fort max recently.

>>5911541
I have no doubt about the podcast truthiness.

But the recent ones like Misfire/NIghtbeat/Deathsaurus/Carnivac/Slugslinger/Needlenose/Blood/Horrorcons I think aren't from the podcast, but rather Chinese sources notable for being disreputable imo.

I don't think anything from the Chinese leaks are accurate because if anything we could wind up with more than two box sets. Hell because of the box sets for Combiner Wars we wound up with double the amount of voyagers, legends, and Deluxes compared to a normal line.

>>5911425
Plus bumblebee is every fucking where and yellow gets old quickly.

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What box first /tfg?

>>5911555
left

>>5911504
>Cannonball
>a figure notorious for being misassembled and extremely difficult to fix
>"actually good"

UTbabbies pls

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>>5911453
>tfw someone finally reposted one of my pictures

Thanks anon

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>>5911558
Tightly packed

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>>5911569
O noe

>>5911480
The Junk set, another Target exclusive, can be found discounted in their online store. That's where I'd expect this to show up later.

>>5911569
>>5911573
how much did you pay for that CW Shockwave?

>>5911573
o yes.

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>>5911576

$15 canucks with shipping

But it might be fake

>>5911582
Nah, they don't make KOs of regular TFs that often nowadays.

Also $15 with how much shipping?

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>>5911582

It was in an obviously revealed box, it came apa apart way to easily,

There were little strips of tape where the megablocks pieces are.

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>>5911567

No problem.

>>5911586
$11 plus 4 bucks shipping

Want me to post link if I can find the eBay post again?

>>5911595
Can you please? I want to see it.

>>5911582
>>5911590

couldn't it been returned to the store?

>>5911590
A lot of modern TF packaging has been using tape around the plastic bubble.

>>5911601
Good point, considering how cheap it was

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Size comparison

>>5911572
Well not a brand name fleshlight, I may want to fuck robots but I'm not going to waste my money in doing so. After my Arcee sheathe, I'll get to work on Slipstream. After some testing of the Arcee of course.

>>5911622
>testing

So, after you stick your dick in it?

>>5911627
Rigorous testing. Considering it has a surprisingly useful motorized inside and a bit of suction for the bukkake hose to properly douse Arcee when the task is complete.

>>5911402
Thanks dr legbeat

>next MPs are Megatron and Hoist
MUH DICK

>>5911454
sticky doors?

Mine were really, really bad.

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>>5911664

I'm hoping we get another Prowl mold soon.

I don't really count CW though.

>>5911685
why not?
It is a white and black police car with a red crest called Prowl.

>>5911694
It also looks like fucking dogshit

>>5911697
Dead End mold is literally the best mold in Combiner Wars and you only consider it "Dogshit" because it was used many times.

>>5911664
Nope. I was reading about that. Everything on him seems fine; his doors aren't even scratched. I may give his doors and roof a dose of clear coat not worry about repainting.

>>5911700
>best mold in Combiner Wars
How sad
>and you only consider it "Dogshit" because it was used many times.
>Wah what are opinions
All of CW was shit mate,

>>5911700
That's true, but the mold doesn't look like prowl.

No hoodchest = no prowl.

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>>5911700
>best mold in cw
Rook is very displeased, anon.

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>>5911712
Speaking of that, where's our definitive CHUG Ironhide? I've heard nothing but bad things about the Universe toy, and CW doesn't have his windshield chest.

Pic somewhat related. Non transforming but I'd love to see a kitbasher take inspiration from this.

>>5911700
>Dead End
Anyone else has issues with the windshield jamming up? i have 2 Deadends and both got stuck, even have stress marks under the windshield.

>>5911705
>All of CW was shit mate,
While CW had it's fair share of shitty toys, the vast majority of them were pretty good. Considering most of the had to be quad changing deluxes, I'm not sure what you were expecting.

Which molds did you think were shit? All I can think of are the CW Prime/Motormaster molds and the CW Breakdown/Wheeljack molds. The rest range from decent to great; especially considering what they were doing.

>>5911747
I haven't had issues with the windshield but it seems like every version of the police car tooling has an overly tight hood hinge

>>5911751
Not him, but I wasn't really a big fan of having basically all the deluxes share the same basic transformation "skeleton"

>>5911772
Not a real issue on those since the plastic is more flexible, but my Deadend has small cracks on the roof.

>>5911747

I actually had that problem with my UW Deadend.

>>5911716
MP Ironhide

>>5911788
Classics style, not MP

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>>5911406
>Still no word about Scorponok
Is it safe to now assume that he will be the Titan Class of 2018?
I thought he'd be Leader Class with the helmet gimmick and PMOP scale.

>>5911799
>Vote for which titan you want to see first
>Scorps is in that poll

What made you think at any point he'd be anything but a Titan?

>>5911801
Cuz Scorponok was smaller than Forretress Maximumus

>>5911700
I like the mold but ur doesn't make for a good Prowl.

>>5911804

His original toy was yeah, but you know they just go with random sizes for everything.

I swear they use a dartboard for choosing the size of shit.

>>5911801
>What made you think at any point he'd be anything but a Titan?
Helmet gimmick and PMOP scale, like I said.

Also, couldn't they do both?

>>5911807
>Also, couldn't they do both?

They could, but it's unlikely in the same line.

I'm probably going to just get the IF NotScorponok anyway. I don't have the room for 2ft tall plastic statues everywhere.

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>>5911799
>Switch hands for claws
>Turn tower into stinger
>Fold up legs
I'm fucking looking at you, Warden. Don't you dare.

>>5911775
But you get why they did.

>>5911826
Yeah, totally. It did make having a large CW collection feel like a lot of the molds got kinda stale tho

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>>5911818
ZA

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>>5911843

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>>5911848
REPAINTO.

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>>5911863
>>5911863

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I've been putzing around with MP Shockwave some more, trying to figure out some kind of improvised storage on him for his mini-me gun, and I found that you can actually store the spare hands in the hollows of his leg.
Shown here with a transparent saluting hand and a transparent left fist (right fist fits as well). They don't actually peg in or anything I just have them taped in, but I think you could very easily glue in some sort of clip holders within his legs to hold them in place.

And if you were to shave off a little bit of the inner mechanism of the knee then I believe there would also be enough room to store a cannon hand instead.

Unfortunately this doesn't work in his gun mode because the same hollow areas become filled, but it's still very interesting and potentially a very useful mod idea to explore.

>>5911700
My ass. It sucks in arm mode and a meh leg mode. The only thing keeping the bot mode from being perfect is the lack of feet, which if you just want a standalone figure, get Chromedome.

>>5911818
>>5911863
Look at that delicious frontal hole. Would be a shame if someone decided to fuck the shit out of Fortress Maximus.

>>5911402
thanks dr legbeat

>>5911863
woah for a second i genuinely thought this was a concept image for a titans return tidal wave

>>5911945
I was thinking that as well. Similar shape to the combined form even if the distribution of elements is different.

>>5911402

THANK DR LEGBEAT

>>5911945
I thought it looked kinda like Energon Shockblast color wise

>>5911518
Thankfully for Springer that actually looks better

>>5911945
Now see that would be a SDCC variant I would buy!

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>>5911406
>All those throttlebots
>All those obvious Bumblebee retools

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>>5912027
>John Warden celebrates BW's 25th anniversary by making new Throttlebots

>>5912030
>25th. It's the 20th mate.

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>>5912030

I hear John Warden's eyes glow in every color of the rainbow because thats the minimum number of Bumblebee repaints you're going to see in this line alone.

>>5911402
Thank dr legbeat

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>>5912042
The sad part is I could legitimately see this line producing seven fucking bumblebee-skeleton retools and it looking relatively fine if you keep them in vehicle mode because they remold either the front or the back of the car, and the head.

>>5911402

Thanks, Dr. Legbeat.

>>5912053
Why not?
Seems to be effective.

>>5912053

Well, we know more repaints/tools are coming for everything. People think it's going to be different from CW, but it probably really isn't. We've already got what, 3 Blurr molds running around?

>>5912057
The reason CW Legends were mostly fine is because you only saw two per wave, and they ALWAYS had different skeletons compared to one another even if one was a repaint or retool of a previous figure.

5 and 6 are two waves, in a row, that have every reason to use the same damn skeleton unless some of them are going to use the blackjack mold (which is unlikely since it doesn't play well with the gimmick.)

What also has me rattled is that there are no cassette bots, meaning the one legends repaint they have every reason to make, Blue Soundwave Tape Guy, wouldn't be showing up.

>>5912067
Maybe Soundwave Blue is part of a multipack with other guys.

>>5912061
>We've already got what, 3 Blurr molds running around?
At least they make an effort to be different. People are just really down on CW because every deluxe had to work under the handicap of also being a limb. Meanwhile, the three uses of the Blurr mold are so extremely different, you'd be hard pressed to tell they were even remolds, at a glance.

>>5911402
thanks dr legbeat

>>5911705
>cw was bad
This meme needs to die now

>>5912104
>cw was good
This meme needs to die now

>>5912114
>le repaints and retools a bad xdddd
This fucking meme needs to die faster than your mother did from cancer

>>5912118
Wew lad, let's take jesus off the dashboard, got enough on his mind.
Cool the edge kiddo, when you grow up you'll realize that having variety in a toy line is good rather than repainting the same 5 toys over and over like your shitty ML collection

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Anyone wanna try and guess which transformer I'm trying to fix based off of what I labelled the screws?

Can't be too hard, I imagine.

(I don't usually bother to spell correctly if it's something I don't plan on showing to others so please excuse the bad spelling)

>>5912132
Mixmaster?

>>5912129
>le repaint xddd
Half the fucking toys in CW were retools and most combiners barely shared any molds. The worst offender was Defensor and Bruticus who share 7 unique molds in total. And that's excluding the 6th legends class member

Also I don't deal with capeshit

>"people" are unironically defending Repaint Wars

Holy shit, who's shitposting about Combiner Wars being bad again? Please don't tell me it's that Korean shitposting faggot

>>5911518
The upper thigh joints are on a mushroom peg, this is an easy fix.

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>>5912138
dingding.
I guess "mixer tip" and "left accesible mixer screw" were dead giveaways.

He has floppy hip rotation and was long overdue for a floor polish crotch massage, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to get him apart until now.

For as stupid and bad of a figure he is, he sure is the most complicated to assemble CW/UW construction by far.

>>5911590
I bought mine in the store in the US and it had tape around the bubble. All of the legends class figures on the pegs had them as well. I think they used a cheap glue that melted in the heat of Summer.

>>5912167
Every carded TF deluxe and legend I've bought lately has the tape on. They probably went with the cheapest glue they could.

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Who /oilslick/ here?

>>5912198
>animated
No one

>>5912174
Ive been giving them benefit of the doubt and assuming they started going tape over glue for box/card collecters

Simple knife takes tape, glue always rips shit

>>5912198
Oil slick is awesome, keep hoping hell get a generations like lockdown and lugnut

Did that guy who was trying to get a proper skeleton head into his ever report back? I wanted to try it if it worked out

>>5911590
On the fb page HK-TF there was talk about ko shockwaves, I'd say you're spot on with your assumption.

Where did you get it from so I can black list it?

(Got shitloads of real shockwaves here because no one knows about this chainstore finally getting a toy department)

>>5911402
THANK DR LEGBEAT

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>>5912207
Ha that was me actually. I didn't have the mold at the time but I don't wanna ruin the one I currently own. But from what I've asked others I think a pose skeleton head might be able to work. Gotta buy one and an extra Oil Slick and try it.

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>>5911406
>Huffer, presumably a new mold
>no Pipes from it
Well fuck you, too, Hasbro.

>>5912228
Man, if this list is true then buying the CW one was a total waste...

>>5912228
If Huffer is true then we're almost definitely getting Pipes

>>5912238
But we aren't getting a twintwist yet even though transmissions confirmed topspin

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Anyone own Generations Wreck-gar?

I love asymmetry, I love shit that looks straight out of mad max, I love motorcycle transformers and I just found out this exists.

>>5912245
Says who?

>>5912207
>>5912223
Is the head filled with liquid or is it all solid plastic?

>>5912250
No liquid, I don't think the helmet is air-tight enough to retain water.

>>5912250
It was originally planned to be filled with water but the idea was scrapped cuz Hasbro was afraid it would leak during shipping, and that water in the chinese factories might be somewhat unsafe if a kid tried drinking it for whatever reason.

>>5912247
It's one of the popular molds. Just be aware that the handles are fragile at the joints.

>>5912280
I could see that being the case
The one I'm looking at on ebay seems to not have any stress mark or breakage though

>>5911406

If the pattern of entire sub groups getting toys holds true (Like all first year Headmaster characters, all original Decepticon Triplechangers, All Monsterbots, etc)

Topspin will get remolded into Twin Twist

The fact were getting Season 3 Sunbow characters, Broadside and all Decepticon Triplechangers mean we could get Springer and Sandstorm, which will be retools of each other

If Huffer is completely new, Pipes will follow.

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>>5911397
>>5911392

>>5912311
tbph I greatly prefer MP09 over MP28 as a figure to pose.

MP28 is inarguably an actually functional toy but MP09 just plain looks better purely in terms of posing him.

If I ever find a cheap, good condition MP-09 with knees that haven't exploded yet I'd totally get him to have a Rodimus Prime in my display.

Any ideas how to reinforce the front wheel struts on deluxe groove?

>>5912325
>MP-09 with knees that haven't exploded

Has there ever been a MP-09 edit of exploding knees?

>>5912330
There's not really any reason to rotate that wheel assembly other than when you first get Groove out of the box.

But it is a really scary piece stability wise though.

>computron sitting in my hlj warehouse
>$40+ to ship it

Jfc. Its just sitting there taunting me.

>>5912330
Doubtful. It's so thin you couldn't really do anything to it without just making it ugly.

Those pieces should have been metal or something

>>5912347
Yep. It really scares me specially that the plastic seems brittle.

>>5912347
>>5912367

Glad to see I'm not the only one shitting myself every time I look at those wheel struts.

>>5912374
Yeah, when I first got mine I was like >jesus christ, these struts shouldn't be bending this much. feels like im gonna break something

As the name implies, I'm sort of an aficionado when it comes to Skywarp. Now this has a reason, I'm not just going to be all "HURR DURR SKYWARP BEST U R FGTS" In truth, I just am curious about the generals view on character collecting.

Is it odd to pick a favorite 'bot and stick with him or her, amass a collection throughout the years or maybe even days, weeks? Just wondering if it's something looked down on, since I ended up in a discussion with someone from the local toy store earlier on how she believes that if you have one toy, you should pass on other variants unless it is absolutely necessary. So, thoughts on the contents of my post perpetuated with tired prose?

>>5912405
It makes sense to me in buying a lot of characters you like.
Personally the only example I have of that are with small capsule figures of vidyagame characters since my Transformers collection has only overlap guys being different guys with the same name like two Starscreams and two Waterlogs.

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What's the most difficult transformer to transform?

Sideburn a.k.a. clearance issues the clusterfuck over here is my vote

>>5912405
Everyone collects for their own reasons anon, just get what you want.

I follow this japanese artist on twitter and I'm pretty sure they have literally everything bumblebee related ever made. They post pictures sometimes and it's like a literal Bumblebee shrine

>>5912409
MP-05 is a pain in the ass.

>>5911406
>Voyagers:
>>Apeface
>>Snapdragon

I'll believe it when I see it.

>>5912418
I don't even know if I've ever actually seen that figure's transformation now that I think about it

>>5912409
RotF Mixmaster is a piece of shit to transform

>>5912418
>>5912425
It's by far one of the most complicated, but it makes sense when you know how to do it

>>5912409
As in a huge pain the ass? WFC Bumblebee

>>5912427
I never saw it before and just watched a video and god damn if that aint some shit

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>>5912409
A personal pain in the ass for me is Beast Hunters Prowl/Smokescreen.
Jesus christ those arms are fiddly as hell to get into vehicle mode.

>>5912427
And the worst part is there's no satisfying end point of the transformation for most of the parts.

When the fuck will they make Legends/Titan Returns for Horrorcons Apeface and Snapdragon?

A lot of the intensely shellformery figure are awful. RotF Mixmaster, as mentioned, as well as Cybershark/SkyBite. From Generations, Kup can been a bit of a struggle, but generally those figures have decent transformations, so it's really relative. Likewise, from Animated, that voyager prime with the stupid spinning torso, I think it was.

Unlike a lot of people, I don't have a problem with complicated figures like WfC or RotF Optimus, both because I'm a fuckin' boss at transforming figures, and because everything has a nice final spot at either end of the transformation, each resulting in a pair of fantastic modes.

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What is this expression trying to convey?

>>5912405

I like having same characters in different sizes, because thats always useful or fun. If a design is different enough (like FoC Soundwave and regular Soundwave) it's also fun.

Beyond that though I don't specifically try to collect certain characters.

>>5911469
Oh cool, now I HAVE to get Metroplex. Just so I can compare and switch up his and Fort Max's parts.

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>>5912405
I have a three-pronged evaluation system when it comes to buying a bot.
>Do I like the bot mode?
>Do I like the alt. mode?
>Do I like the character?
Unless I can answer "yes" to at least two of the questions, I typically won't buy the figure. It keeps my collection from being crazy bloated, to the point where I just have a checklist of character that I feel I "need" to own. Never really understood the mentality of buying a toy just to say that you own it. Of course, my criteria means that occasionally I won't buy a toy of even my favorite characters if it looks like a sack of dump.

>Just wondering if it's something looked down on
Not at all. That level of dedication is actually kinda neat. I've seen some people who have a single shelf dedicated to every version of a character. It actually looks pretty cool because of all the similar-yet-different designs, and cohesive color schemes, since most Transformer collections end up looking like a rainbow mess of plastic.

>>5912464

Pants-shitting terror.

>>5911402
thanks dr legbeat

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>>5912471
>since most Transformer collections end up looking like a rainbow mess of plastic.

It's kind of hard to avoid when the characters are specifically made to be a rainbow.

>>5912486
I find the '86 movie bots to be an exception. It's pretty obvious that they were the first bots designed with the animation in mind. Their color schemes are so solid and bold, they actually work with each other.

>>5912494

Even the non-86 movie bots had a lot of color changes from their Diaclone/whateverothertoylines originals though, didn't they?

>>5912469
>>5911469
>>5911411

Wait, what?

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>>5912405

Not really. If you dig a character and can afford and will enjoy different versions of them then its worth it.

Personally it doesn't appeal to me. I gave it up playing pokemon early with specific characters after realizing I was buying duds for the sake of completion. Fuck that. Now I just buy what I like. Since I don't have a shelf-ster-fuck it doesn't matter if anything goes together since I rotate things out on my limited desk space. At most I buy different versions of the same character because they are vastly different from one another. For example I picked up RID2015 Quillfire because he's a cool bastard even he doesn't go with anything else I have. I also bought 3 different 3p versions of Sludge without their other dinonot members because they all ticked my boxes.

>>5912456
WFC Prime is easy shit, the only reason people complain is the rotating torso section. Even that's not too hard

>>5912501
The thing that goes on TR Fort Max's leg was originally a turret that went on the shoulder of CW Metro.

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So I got an extra Clobber and tried to make a Zarak for Energon Scorponok, the face is a bit larger for the tm botmode.

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>>5912524
But as a head it works.

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>>5912551
Just ignore him, no need to fight over toys.

So anyway, anyone notice how disproportionately high-quality Weirdwolf is?
His shoulders have layered plastic and apparently the QC on him in general is really damn good.

>tfw we'll never get a Legions Devastator based on down-sized versions of the CW molds. They don't need to be as sturdy because Legion Devastator wouldn't be nearly as heavy as the behemoth Titan version.

>>5912571

All of the beast HM's are pretty good honestly. Skullcruncher just got assreamed by bad QC, his design is solid.

>>5912581
I'd go for a deluxe/big deluxe version.

>>5912589
Yeah, but my Mindwipe has had issues standing because the hinge for his ankles keeps letting him fall forward.
Weirdwolf however feels like we traveled back to Galaxy Force/Cybertron with how solid he is overall.

>>5912595

Mine stands fine, but I could see how that could happen. Futureshine to the rescue?

Question

what's the best CHUG figure to represent Hot Rod/Rodimus?

>>5912631
TR Rod

>>5911402
thanks dr. legbeat

>>5912632

uh

okay, second-best then?

>>5912642
Classics hot rod.

>>5912642
>>5912646

Seen here: >>5910935

>>5912631
Hot Rod: Classics
Rodimus: Titanium

>>5912358

Pretty much this

>>5912631
Titanium Rodimus. He's getting a reissue too

>>5912631
>>5912642
By far easily Titanium Rodimus desu

>>5912658
>He's getting a reissue too

Is that by itself or packaged with Cyclonus?

>>5912631

TR Hotrod. Just wait for'em, he'll probably be the best that isn't the MP.

>>5912666
Packaged with Universe Galvatron. Both are fantastic toys

>>5912677
Hahaha no, Galvy is garbage

>>5912681
Galvy is a fantastic Leader. Unfortunately he's a deluxe, so he's a finicky mess who won't hold together at all due to his budget not covering his full design.

>>5912681
What're you on about anon? Galvatron is a good toy just like Titanium Hot Rod. Better than the shitty TR versions of both

>>5912499
No. Magnus is the only movie toy with a Diaclone toy. The rest were based on early animation models

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What I wanna know is why is hlj taking so long to get more preorders for mindwipe

>>5912690
It's so shitty that not even they want to release it to the public

>>5912405
Skywarpbro! I'm in the same boat, I think I have five or six different skywarps. I just love the purple on black aesthetic.
Debating on picking up the leader class fig from CW whenever it starts going on clearance.

Why has there been such an obsession on making everything way too fucking tight?

I mean, some things need to be, like Sky Reign's hip joints. And obviously figures should be able to hold a pose and hold up their own weapons. But most of the time they go way beyond that. If a figure doesn't end up with any stress marks at all after transforming it once, I basically consider it a gem.

>>5912703
Iiii don't think i've ever seen someone who goes so fucking hardcore on tightening that they basically just give their figures locked-in syndrome. It's only joints that would bear weight or need to stay in place for transformation.

>>5912711
The peg that holds the front of Hook's vehicle mode together is extremely tight. So much so that unless you're extremely careful getting it out (which is damn near impossible since it's really wedged in there) it will snap off in the socket. The joint doesn't suffer much without it since there are enough other tabs to keep Devastator intact (mostly on the chest piece), but he's somewhat harder to assemble in the first place when Hook's front keeps swinging apart.

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>>5912427

You know you want to

>>5912703

Personally, I feel a figures basic limbs shouldn't noticeably budge from a shake test. If shit goes flying or limbs start going wild, it's not tight enough.

Too tight is also a problem. Things need to hit a good median, basically.

>>5912733
I honestly don't mind if the limbs go wild as you swing the figure back and forth, as long as they can still stand in the pose I give them... which is something Skullcruncher can't really do, so he would be an example of one that is TOO loose. I'm totally fine with Wheelie's floppy arms, though, and he can still hold up guns from bigger figures.

I know a $10 plastic toy isn't going to be perfectly engineered to hit all the sweet spots. But if I had to choose between slightly loose and slightly tight, I'd take loose any day.

>>5911716
That's because people are retards. Universe Ironhide is a great figure.

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Is the Leader class Cybertron Prime that great of a toy?

Seibertron listed it as the second best Optimus Prime figure ever, even beating the G1 and the ROTF Leader and seconded only to the Masterpieces. He always looked like an aesthetically pleasing figure to me, but jesus christ, should I totally get one now or are they just overrating it?

>>5912770
>this badly mistransformed

Why

>>5912770
I would say he's the ultimate Brave toy. Lots of gimmicks. Various stages of power-ups. Blocky and bulky.

I'm not sure if you would enjoy him if you only have experience with recent stuff.

Hasbro Blaster?
or
Takara Blaster?

bonus
TR/LG Soundwave yes or no?

TR Primus/Unicron when?

>>5911697

No it doesn't.

>>5912783
>Hasbro Blaster
Better face.
>Takara Broadcast
Better legs.

I'd say Takara, since you can just swap out the head.

>>5912782
I started around the 2007 movie line but have experience with everything from tons of G1 to half a dozen of Unicorn trilogy toys, so I'm aware the figures in that era were mostly hit or miss. So yeah, I think it could be an interesting figure, although the "bulky" part does sort of worry me. How's the poseability?

>>5911705

You're stupid.

>>5911712

>No hoodchest = no prowl.

It must be terrible not being able to think outside the box.

Hasbro owns Prowl. If they say it's Preowl, then it's Prowl. It may not be a Prowl to your particular liking, but it's irrefutably a Prowl figure.

>>5912793
It's far better than armada bricks but what you see in that picture is what you get.

>>5911805
>>5911805

It makes for a very acceptable Prowl.

>>5912798
Sounds good then, most complete ones on Ebay are going for circa ~40 so I'll give it a shot. Thx anon!

>>5912775
Gundam SEED fags. It was around the same time that thing aired.

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>>5912750
Like hell he is

>Bought TAV Strongarm/Sawtooth months ago for $20
>finally got her a week back
>got her out of package
>she was missing her backpack
>had to send her back to Hobbylink
>cost $60 to send her back
>final cost: $80

theyre supposed to refund me but fuck

>>5912030
>>5912042
>>5911874
>>5911863
>>5911848
>>5911843

Man, you ass must be in such unbearable agony over this guy.

Of course if it wasn't him, it would be someone else. You fanboys do love having a scapegoat to focus your anal devastation on

>>5912770
Second best is definitely overrated but it's still a great figure.

>>5912802
Are you in Canada or Merica'?

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Ebay listings for this mysterious bad boy are getting progressively scarcer, is it time to get one already?

>>5912129
>let's take jesus off the dashboard, got enough on his mind.

Whatever are you blathering on about?

>>5912819
Nay, Portugal, but that's more or less the price of one with combined shipping.

>>5912792
>Hasbro Blaster
>Better face.

What do you mean?

>>5911716
>>5912750
>people are retards
>>5912812
See?

>>5912631

Cloud Rodimus, if you can afford him.

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>>5912824
I just don't like the white on the Legends version.

>>5912813
You're supposed to wait till they give you a shipping label. Unless you're a business the rate for sending shit is absurd. Good example is if you're selling something on Ebay for the same item your shipping through an affiliate program so you only pay like $20 and it comes with the basic tracking and shit, but if you send it on your own back then you will easily pay $70~100 for the same service. HLJ is a big company and that they should be guaranteeing the return labels. The question now is if you contacted them and they told you to send it back yourself then they would be at fault. But if you sent it without them confirming they can probably write you off and you would only get your toy refunded for the original amount you paid and not for the one for the shipping you paid with your own money.

TLDR; Unless they said to return it yourself, you probably fucked yourself by paying it out of your pocket. Also it's a hassle to return it so normally they just tell you to destroy the item and send them a picture that you did and they will send you a new one free of charge.

>>5912828
Here's an idea, buy the Takara for the body then get the TR for the head, then just repaint the TR into Twincast.

>>5912129

CW had only three straight redecos via regular retail. The G2 sets were pretty much just online exclusives.

Everything else got at least a new head

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We did this in the last thread and we're doing it again: post underrated figures.

Pic related is easily one of the best deluxes from the first movie: imposing posture, great articulation and poseability, and a paintjob on the level of Star Wars action figures. I guess most people ignored it because it doesn't really look like Optimus Prime and transforms into a weird metallic comet instead of something that's recognizable, but honestly, those are the reasons that sold me on it. Were it just a regular deluxe-sized Prime that was red and blue and transformed into a truck, it would have been completely overlooked by the Voyager and Deluxe versions, but the alien-ish appearance really makes it stand out as something genuinely charming and unique amongst the 2007 film toys.

>>5912828
Is it just me or both the Hasbro and Takara versions look like Fisher Price toys? Jesus fucking christ, I hate how cheap the plastic for the new figures looks like.

>>5912245

Hasbro seems to want to do complete sets of various subteams, if only through odd formats. like all the 2nd year Deluxe Headmasters being released as Titanmasters

Im pretty convinced that we WILL see a Twintwist late in the line. Along with Pipes

>>5912330

We're NEVER going to get another chance to get Deluxe Groove, are we?

>>5912775
Only the cannons and wings are wrong. And if they like it that way, fuck it

>>5912848
Not anytime soon, that's for sure.

>>5912853

So I should just bite the bullet already and brave the secondary market prices then?

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>>5912848
I'm just glad I got one when a reputable Chinese seller was selling it for non-scalped price.

Netclow is such a good seller.

>>5912854
I'd say so.

>>5912845
>I hate how cheap the plastic for the new figures looks like
Iktf. I'm not touching any of the sparkly figures or the ones with dull gray plastic.

>>5912820
UncleBilly's Aliexpress store still has a grip of them, cost should be a bit over 30 bucks with shipping if i recall correct. If it's cheaper than that then go for it. It's worth picking up, it's a decent figure and it's got a unique story behind how it came to be

>>5912845
It's just you. The plastic quality is just as solid as the plastic we got 10 years ago

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Generations toy when?

>>5912884
oh snap i have that one, never knew it's name though, thanks to the filename that is a thing of the past

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>>5912408
>>5912414
>>5912468
>>5912471
>>5912505
>>5912701
Just want to give quick thanks for the feedback about my question. I suppose it's a sentimental reason for collecting Skywarp as well as aesthetics - I mean that colorscheme is up there with the Titans scheme Gundam Mk-II. Anyway I feel a bit better now about my desire to augment my growing collection with extra Skywarps.

>>5912884
>swindle
>swindler

>>5912901
Somebody at Hasbro apparently bought a DeLorean and wasn't happy with it.

>>5911504
>rampage, astrotrain, ramhhorn garbage
>obsidian crayola
>tripredacus, skybyte JUST
WAT

>>5911504
strika is garbage?

>>5911614
looks good m8`

>>5912581
If we're already dreaming, might as well make it Legends/Commander class. Use Power Core Combiner ports for cross-compatibility, then create a Cyberverse Combiner Wars using that system.

>>5912884
They'll probably go for micromasters in an upcoming wave, although I'm pretty sure he won't even come close to resembling a DeLorean.

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>>5912783
Hi, I'm the OP that posted >>5911392 and I was in the same position.

The takara one has better legs, the legs are glittery as fuck but apart from a slight blemish on the face in pic related (the other side has a slight miss in paint but you'd only notice if you stare right at it) its quite solid, the takara is much the same just different paint.

If a bigger overall aesthetic is important to you, get the takara one, I ONLY got the hasbro one because we're having a sale here (from $89.99aud to 59.99aud) and the fact the design is clearly intended for hasbro's toy aesthetic (the helmet homages the g1 toy/marvel comics) helped cement that in, its still the same toy.

One thing else I noticed with the takara head, if you look at it it seems the whole lower face is white, the black on mine's head would be white too, and if you love the legs but hate the head its easy enough to drown it in silver paint.

As for soundwave's simerlar argument there, infact a flaw emgo mentioned (yea yea he's shit meh) is the gold paint on the chest panel rubs off on the hasbro version, the takara version adds MORE paint around the sides...I honestly think the takara one is the better figure but if cost is a factor the hasbro one wins

>>5911402
THANK DR LEGBEAT

>>5912845
They do look like Fisher Price but the plastic isn't reason.

>>5911402
THANK DR LEGBEAT

>>5912821
>Being THIS new

>>5912843
I never have it but I was always a fan of the protoforms

Seeing what a "default" cybertronian looks like, at least in the bay universe, is pretty nifty.

>>5912848

He was in stock again on Amazon a few days ago for MSRP.

>>5912886

Buy what you like, man. The only thing I can't really understand with collecting is buying the exact same figure multiple times without a good reason.

I mean, like, hey, collect some Stormtroopers or something, sure, but don't go buy like, 10 of the same one in the same line with the exact same sculpt etc...

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>>5913005
Army building is a fine reason is it's an army building character.

If you have the money and desire then why not get seven sweeps or a hand full of tank drones

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>Skytread's special power is "Clone"

So does he make copies of himself or copies of the body he's piloting?

>>5913005
Oh nah, no multiples. Different styles and gimmicks and such. Although I suppose I would get a spare Gen 1 Skywarp if just to have one for play and one for boxed display.

>>5913008
Whatever happened to that Tank Drone Anon?

>>5913017
>Skytread's special power is "Clone"
According to what?

>>5913023
The Titans Return promo storybook

>>5912486
I didn't know Ryuko and Satsuki were in the 86 movie?

>>5913122
Brief cameo as the Headmasters of Rumble and Frenzy.

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>>5912688
>The rest were based on early animation models
So Wheelie originally looked like this?

>>5913108
Where's that?

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>>5913172
The original design was lanky as fuck

>>5911402
THANK DR LEGBEAT

>>5913214
>what is google

>>5912494
They were the first toys designed to fit floro dery's original designs.
They fired him by the time headmasters needed to be designed.
Cause he didn't care about things being able to be transformed in real life.
This is why arcee couldn't get a toy made, and why blurr and kups toys are so simplistic compared to any prior figure in that scale.
Also this is why the cyclonus toy was hideous. Dery left them no notes on how the transformation worked.
Also why hotrod has three different transformation animations.

>>5913231
>left them no notes on how the transformation worked.
was that faggotry just Dery's or were everyone else at USA like that as well?

>>5911535
Yes, it is.

>>5913231
Go away Walky

>>5913236
All of the non toy transformers in seasons one and two were made by dery. This is why alpha trion never got an alt mode, why the females had no alt mode kibble, and why devcon or whatever his name was had no sensible transformations (or any previous prime)
The 86 movie was the first time dery had to design things that would be made jnto toys, and he was bad at it.
After the movie, any character that got a toy was designed by his assistants. This includes metroplex and trypticon. So after he was fired, the team knew how to design stuff that would work, cause they'd been cleaning up dery's mess for years.

>>5913253
Who the fuck is walky?
I see him mentioned through the years, but could never figure out what he did.

>>5913259
Creator of TFWIKI. Good site, horrendous person. One of his more famous "quirks" is having a massive hateboner for Floro Dery

>>5913255
His designs were cool as fuck before simplifying for animation.

>>5913255
Lol. You believe walky's black propaganda?
Seriously, all this shit about dery was orchestrated by walky. All of it.

>>5912030
I am not a member of /tfg/'s John Warden Hate Club BUT...I own all the Titan Masters, which have weapon modes, some of the MIni Con Weaponizers from RiD15, and the tool/weapon guys from Rescue Bots. I would have gladly bought the Arms Microns, too, but they weren't available in the US. If i found out Warden was responsible for that, i'd be willing to join the Hate Club.

>>5913296
>>5913265
Oh, i see
Nah, this was from interviews with floro dery
He's very conceited and literally said his designs were so futurisitic, they're what the future would call futurisitic.
I love his art and designs, they're awesome independently, he was just awful at toy designs, which is why they replaced him.
We don't think of it now, but back in early 80s cartoons often depicted toys, not the other way around, which is why dery had such a hard time.

>>5912464
Dull surprise.

>>5912999

And he was up on HTS for about a day about 3 or 4 days ago. Managed to get another one to go alongside the one I bought during May Mayhem.

>>5912886
Gonna need pics of your alleged Skywarp shrine, anon.

>>5912405
I have every wheeljack I can get my hands on. Except MP. Even at the KO price I feel meh about it. I don't know what it is.

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>>5913434
>I feel meh about it
BUT BUT HE'S LIKE THE MOST ACCURATE AND ELEGANT WHEELJACK FIGURE IF NOT THE MOST PERFECT CAR MASTERPIECE IN EXISTENCE, HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLYDHBHASASDFDHDBSIHNFUOBFSDBFHDB FHDB

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>>5913434
That's weird, man. Wheeljack is one of my all-time favorites, and I own a lot of his toys, and the MP is far and away my absolute favorite. It's probably one of the best MPs around, and I've heard the KO is pretty great. The mold was so brilliant, I even bought MP Exhaust, despite him being a literally who.

>>5913444
Basically this.

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>>5913452
Indeed, it really is a brilliant figure. When it comes to the "deluxe-sized" ones, it might very easily be the best one around, and that's not an easy thing to say considering how they're all so damn great.

>I even bought MP Exhaust, despite him being a literally who.

I got Exhaust first since he managed to show up in a local merch store, actually. He's not as interesting or recognizable as Wheeljack, but imho, it's still an interesting repaint with cool accessories and probably worth the extra bucks if you're that in love with the toy. Also considering getting the extra decals to complete the Marlboro livery, he just looks so cool.

>>5913452
>>5913444
Not that guy. I want to love MP Wheeljack but the excessive lancia branding on him just annoys the hell out of me.

>>5913444
>>5913452
I'm not denying that it's a great figure. I just can't bring myself to do it. Maybe it's because I only have one other MP? Or because I'm tired of collector figures and like having something i can just fiddle around with. I have almost 100 figuarts. All amazing toys but you gotta watch yourself with them.

>>5913225
Looks like Gomer Pyle

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>>5913479
But anon, it's actually incredibly accurate with the actual Group 5 Stratos. It's not just their ego, the car actually looked like that.

>>5913490
>I'm tired of collector figures and like having something i can just fiddle around with.
Which MP do you have?

Masterpiece figures are for the grand majority solid and durable.
Not as durable as something specifically designed for 5 year olds to eat but they won't explode if they fell over on your desk.

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>>5913479
>excessive lancia branding on him just annoys the hell out of me
Well then this must trigger you something awful. Personally, I love the realistic race sponsor decals. Looks rad as hell. I got decal sets for my Smokescreen and Exhaust, too. Can't wait for MP Jazz and Mirage, someday.

>>5913497
Yes, but he's probably a geewunner and wanted Wheeljack to look as bland as he did in the original cartoon, because of lazy animators. Not because of what actually looks good.

[spoiler]Although all opinions are valid, I suppose.[/spoiler]

>>5913499
Hasbro Soundwave (was lucky to get him complete for $70 on the BST last year) and I do love him. He's great, but he's not close to being something you can say take to your desk at work to fiddle around with.

I don't bash around my toys or anything, but I like to not worry.

I feel like I'd get MP wheeljack, transform him a few times, then he gets displayed with the rest of the wheeljacks.