Transformers 3rd party general: Shit Piece edition

>>5686430

I gotta say that Kup looks a lot less weird in color. Still not the proportions I'd ever expect Kup to have but if they do color it like that it might end up looking alright.

>>5686430
they gotta fix the limbs and I'm on board with making a 1986 Movie crew or IDW shelf depending on how it turns out.

>>5686430
Another MP scale figure not in MP style. Easy pass. It would be a must buy at deluxe size.

>>5686448

Maybe people like other things anon.
Maybe the IDW design is more appealing to some.
Maybe people like IDW designs and want them in large figures.
Maybe some people like figures that are not 6 polygons.

>>5686430

He transforms into fucking nothing. I get that it's accurately nothing but a space wedge does not qualify as a vehicle.

>>5686430
It's gonna get a light retooling into Orion Pax, and i'll just buy that one, it'd make for a fairly cool OP anyways.

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>KFC
>XTransbots

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>>5686472
Speaking of non-MP figures in MP-style, here's some colored pics of Generation Toy Jaz- I mean J4zz.

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>>5686482

>>5686482

>GT

Give me the rest of gravity builder you fucks.

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>>5686483

>>5686482
>>5686483
>>5686487

Is this MP scale? I know MP Autobot cars aren't much above deluxe, but this looks a bit complex, and has jointing and construction normally seen on slightly larger toys.

Problem is, it looks like a Classics toy, not a MP, so it might just be a fail anyway.

>>5686442
Wish the legs were a bit shorter, or that the feet just came out slightly below the tires, it makes no sense for the legs to be so long because the cab of the truck is also way too fucking long.

>>5686547
Maybe if you turn the feet around and position them on the legs it would look better? It looks like you can do that.

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>>5686501
>so it might just be a fail anyway
who cares? no ones forcing you to use him as an MP. just buy it and a put it in your CHUG collection, the size difference is barely noticable

>>5686482
>>5686483
>>5686484
Doesn't look very MP-esque to me, though that car mode and the sweet pearlescent paint look awesome.

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>>5686430
TF fans have too much time on their hands

i mean... look at this shit, keep in mind he made two of these pics

>>5686482
>>5686483
>>5686487

I like the pearly finish but I don't like the silverish color of the car bits. Makes the whole thing look too dark whereas I think white would break up the dark blue and gunmetal better.

Why did they decide to make it silver anyway? Has Jazz ever been silver outside of Bayformers? I mean not that white vs. light silver is like so inaccurate that it kills the likeness of the character or anything, I just wonder where the idea even came from.

>>5686696
>>Why did they decide to make it silver anyway?

my question is "Why is it blue?"

Was Jazz ever blue? I think his Actionmaster toy had blue, but does that count really?

>>5686694
This is a troll picture right?

>>5686703

Yeah that's true also. I think the Fall of Cybertron toy is blue too.

>>5686694

Probably just an angry Jazz fan. I love Jazz as well and a lot of my issues with the GT proto are covered by his image.

I really don't get what they were going for. I'd buy a nice Jazz as long as it was trying to resemble something - cartoon, one of the many toys, Marvel comics, movie inspired... but this is so wide off the mark.

And fuck that car mode is sloppy.

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>>5686787
isn't it based on the toy but with a new alt mode?

i see what you mean tho, they took some liberties.

For me, the blue has to go, the shoulder cannons have to go, and Jazz really deserves a more handsome face sculpt

>>5686635

I don't really have plans to buy it either way, I was speaking more in terms of general critique of how successful it is at what it sets out to do.

IE, if it's intended as a Masterpiece replacement, it's not good because it doesn't have the right aesthetics.

Not sure about the difference being hard to notice for a Classics collection, I feel like the MP cars are much more small voyager than anything. I don't collect MPs though, so I haven't had a lot of comparison experience.

Since IF made notSlammer and notSixgun for Metroplex, do you think they'll make a notCog for the new TR FortMax?

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>>5686833
maybe x2toys can get off their asses and make Shaft already...

>>5686842

Yes please. And not for the new guy, either.

>>5686833

I feel like when they first started up "they go well with Metroplex" was the excuse they needed to make legends figures, but now that they have established themselves to the extent that they have, I think they'd get less sales by doing that than they would just continuing to do what they've been doing lately and making regular characters people care about in legends scale. A better Fort Max choice for them would be to just make a little IDW Fort Max to go with their Overlord.

>>5686482
>>5686483
>>5686487

>J4ZZ
And GT continues to stroll along on very thin ice.

Anyone here have nonnefs hands yet? I'm really bumbed I missed the preorders

>>5686924

Could be worse. Could've named him J1ZZ.

Also, not surprised he looks "off". None of their constructacons look much like the actual ones, but people seem to be eating those up.

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>>5686031
How's Warbot Assaulter aka notBroadside ?

He's awesome. He weighs like 3 pounds, but its all in his legs, makes for great balance. Really nice range of motion in his shoulders.

>>5687134
the one drawback i can really say about him is that his leg ratchets are heavy as all hell. I mean it's understandable considering the weight they need to support but it always leaves me worried when i use them.

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>>5686483

Looks like they fit in with these guys more so than MP.

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>>5686430
>Back in the day we didn't need stupid thumbs to hold things!

>>5686472
That's not IDW design, anon.
I mean, it's clearly taken some inspiration from it, but it's an original design closer to Studio Ox.
Now, an actual IDW Masterpiece Kup, based on the AHM design? I'd be all over that.

>>5687134
He's really weird stylistically, though. He doesn't really fit into any collection I have, hence why I've been considering selling him on.
Also, that not-aircraft carrier is shit. I want one that's an actual boat next time.

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>>5686694

>>5687141
I just took the ratchets out of him and he works just fine. And it's way easier to position his legs for jet mode too.

>>5686482
>>5686483
I want to like it, but the colors and the overabundance of sculpted detail are big turn-offs. I always pictured Jazz having more of a clean, smooth aesthetic to him in both modes.

I want the TFC Seacons to come sooner I got a thirst that needs quenching

>>5687553
First one will probably hit after Drillhorn/Gaihawk release within the next 2 months.

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>>5687553

>Waiting on Chigurh in the mail
>Waiting for GT's last two constructacons
>Waiting for DX9's Not Blitzwing
>Waiting for Carnifex

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>Wow that tank looks pretty good.
>I don't mind the robot mode either.
>This might give DX9 a run for their mon-

>KFC

REEEEEE

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>>5687553

They look pretty spectacular. I actually found myself liking the neon pinks and blues. I hope it goes over well because I don't trust TFC that much anymore.

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Are there any 3rd party Superions with big ass shoulders?
Both Energon and CW/UW Superions doesn't arouse my mecha dick
To be honest CW/UW Superions are all fine and dandy except for its shitty thighs which just annoys me to no end.
I know about TFC Uranos but it's EARLY TFC so I'm having doubts on his quality

>>5687662

Honestly the best Superion is the UW one. Uranos barely has a passing resemblence to Superion and is kinda meh quality to boot.

>>5687669
but the thighs man
it's just too thin
or is there a 3rd party torso bot like that shitty 3rd party Motormaster but actually good

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>>5687616
Don't do it man.

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>>5687672

>Boldforms Loneworld

AHHH JESUS MY EYES

>>5687676

Preorder already secured bruh. DX9 mustard rice.

>>5686430
What version of Defender is that?

>>5687672

UW's thighs are not that bad at all man, trust me.

>>5687706
UW superion has no major mold change compared to CW superion
I do know for the fact that UW has better mechanisms
that's why I'm keeping my eye on UW Sky Reign
If Takara manages to add a torso rotation with solid rachet I'm buying him AND superion set to make my own aerial combiner

>>5687720
*with solid rachet on the thighs

>>5687720

He's got better paint.

And I'm with you on Skylynx. Hoping Takara addresses the molds issues.

>>5687720
The ratchet fix takes ten minutes. I did it on mine.

I sort of want a second to make it a real duo con and keep the combiner aspect. But also just usually butcher my projects

>>5687616
It has a chance based on their recent improvements in some of the newer releases.

Not holding my breath though

>>5687751
>no waist swivel
and the fact that I need to do a fucking tweak on an official toy no less is just damn ridiculous

>>5687776

Not the first time the first release of an official mold might be fixed in a re-release. It happens witj 3P's too.

>>5687776
A waist swivel on top of 3 modes is asking too much at a 25 dollar price point. Yes there is definitely space for one, it's probably not happening. Time to hack one apart and go to work with shapeways

>>5687801
>DIY
you know what?
I might as well start a 3P business myself

>>5687806

Lewd Arcee please.

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>>5687806
>>5687841
Lewd bara Megatron too while we're at it.

>>5687662
The fansproject upgrade kit is alright, but it takes that other upgrade kit to make him actually good.

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>$149.96
>$.04 until free shipping
>$18 shipping otherwise
>Nothing around $20 in stock or worthwhile

>>5686908
I'm just waiting for them to do Deathsaurus and Star Saber.
But I will instantly preorder an IF Full-tilt, Brunt, and Wipout set when Trypticon finally comes out.

So can anyone tell me what TFC toys are good? I do plan on buying their liokaiser and probably King Poseidon in the distant future. Do they have anything else worthwhile?

>>5688171

No. Hercules was great for its time but still has joint problems. Everything since has been off. Their Defensor was solid if you could stomach the aesthetic though. Their not MP releases are hot garbage. No one remembers they did a reflector before it was cool because it was shit. Hades and Neptune are looking like some sort of quality bump.

>>5688171
Hercules was good for it's time and everything else they've made prior to Liokaiser is garbage.

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Beside the color scheme, are there any differences between Toyworld's Infinitor and Grant?
Like fixed errors and other things like that

>>5688269

One of them doesn't come with many paint apps and relies mostly on stickers right?

>>5688270
Grant is the sticker sheet version.

>>5688171
I have Hercules and 4/6ths of Hades and I can pretty much say that anything else they've put out is not really worth it (and buying Hercules now in 2016 might not be a logical move either).

Herc was really nice at the time and has aged decently (the combined mode has aged better than the individual robots in my opinion). But when you compare him to other cheaper or more modern Devastators, he doesn't hold up that well right now. If you could get one used for under $350, maybe, but not at the full $600ish full price.

Hades on the other hand is just amazing. Smart, modern engineering. Solid build, characterful headsculpts. The only real downside is some questionable use of clear plastics (mostly on Cerberus). I have heard of some QC issues with the combining of the two torso bots, but didn't experience it myself, and you should be able to get an exchange if they don't work right anyway (maybe consider getting those two from a local seller just in case). Hades is shaping up to be one of my favorite combiners and I can't recomend him enough.

As for their King Poseidon, I'd wait until we see the full team. I have much more faith in them now, but I personally can't commit until I see their Snaptrap/Turtler, as he's going to be crucial to the look and stability of the combiner. After how they dropped the ball on Silverbolt, I'm a bit apprehensive.

>>5688269
>>5688270
>>5688278
I have Grant and I think he may have literally zero paint apps. Still nice. The one place you really miss paint though is on the head, as his head is all grey without any of the green that should be there.

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I keep seeing people talk about how Pandinus was originally meant to be Trypticon, but I can never find a source. Can anyone help me out there? Cause right now it's just the word of people and visual similarity to WFC Trypticon.

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being a poorfag is fucking suffering

>>5688379
>50 euro for Infinitor
Color me interested (Takara ver.)

>>5687290
oh. i should try that some day.

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>>5688334
Is Grant/Infinitor compatible with Warden's headmaster? I have the SD version
Where I could find some affordable mini transformers to accompany this 3rd party FortMax base mode?

>>5688371
People have been saying they will share a lot of similar parts, but it's doubtful it'll be a straight remold.

>>5688371

There is no source. People have just speculated that it's maybe a mold that is designed to be an easy retool for Trypticon.

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Master Made Omega Supreme colored/unpainted test shot pics (1/6)

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>>5688638

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>>5688638
>>5688644

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>>5688638
>>5688644
>>5688648

>>5688638
>>5688644
>>5688648
if the images didn't label this as SD then I would never have known
feels so fucking right

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>>5688638
>>5688644
>>5688648
>>5688650

>>5688651

Yeah I'm just getting it to go with my Legends scale figures. That's where I have their Trypticon right now. Metroplex was actually too obviously SD to go with non-SD figures and Scorponok also looks like it will be, but Trypticon and Omega Supreme have both been proportions that were like close enough to what you'd normally expect.

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>>5688650
Is... is that him using half the rocket as a fucking HAMMER?

Holy shit I fucking need to own this

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>>5688638
>>5688644
>>5688648
>>5688650
>>5688658

>>5688638
>>5688644
>>5688648
>>5688650
>>5688658

>MANLET SUPREME

>>5686694

That fucking guy does that for everything. I have him on my ignore list on TFW but so many people respond to him and egg him on that I still end up seeing a hundred fucking quotes of his posts in every thread.

He's now going on in the Transformission Stunticons thread about how there should never be any molded details without paint apps or some shit and if you can't paint the details then you shouldn't have them at all.

I'm literally autistic and I don't think I could nitpick as hard as that guy if you paid me money to.

>>5688658
>hand

oh I get it, more of IDW's stupid shit

>>5688644
he actually looks kinda cool with hands!

>>5688726

GEWAN
IT NOT REAL UNLES GEWAN
NO OTHER TRASNFORMER CAN BE
IF NOT GEWAN

>>5688726

When did he ever have regular hands in IDW? Seems to me more like Master Made just fucking around and thinking it would be fun if the rocket parts could come off and become a hammer.

>>5688726
IDW didn't give him hands you incredibly stupid and triggered faggot.

>>5688448

IIRC Toyworld headmasters can work with G1 figures in some capacity but the connector is different on Warden's headmaster. You could always pick up WST or Titan masters to go with it.

>>5688772

There's a pic on TFW I saw one time of someone with Warden's headmaster on Infinitor and they said it more or less works. The connector isn't actually the same but I think they said you can get Warden's head on Infinitor, just not the other way around.

It looked like shit though, to be honest

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>>5688713
>tfw I avoid TFW
>TFW when I avoid TFW because /toy/ is better TF board than TFW
>tfw all of this about TFW is true

>>5688796
>/toy/ is better TF board than TFW

honestly its true
its difficult to get a discussion going at times, but when you do it's usual more pleasant than TFW's autistic conversations

>>5688805

Standard rule for anything is to avoid official forums. It's a breeding ground for hugboxes, shitters, autists, and monumental faggotry.

>>5688823
>official forums
official forums? what do you mean by those?

>>5688823

TFW isn't official

OK guys. Suppose you were some high up official at Takara and were given the go-ahead to reach out to a 3P company and say to them "Hey, we love your work, how would you guys like to go official?", but you can only choose one company. Who do you pick?

>>5688844

KFC and it's dummies, to ensure they never put out a product again without actual professionals ensuring it isn't shit.

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>>5688844

>Iron Factory to churn out lines and lines of pocket gods.

>MMC if they kept up with designs for the comic and Cassy was never allowed another greeble.

>Mastermade for SD everything.

>Maketoys for a pseudo Brave styled line.

I'd probably pick Iron Factory though.

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>>5688844
Fansproject
Use their IP to make new transforming robot series independent from transformers

>>5688844

I mean, if a company is good right now I can only imagine that that arrangement would end up making them worse because they'd have rules to follow that they currently don't. And if a company is bad right now then I suppose official oversight might be good for them, but if since they're bad I don't really give a shit about them too much?

>>5688844
DX9, because seeing the war in pocket line go offical and get in-store releases would be crazy

>>5688870
Yeah, I suppose what I meant was that the company would maintain autonomy but would gain the official license (and all the perks that go with it) and the staff would work alongside Takara's team to collaborate on stuff. So for example, suppose Takara were releasing an MP Megatron 2.0- Hasui or whoever does the engineering these days would work with the Maketoys dudes to design and engineer it. Meanwhile Maketoys would still release their own high-end stuff with their own style, albeit as a licensed third party (and thus they'd be allowed to add insignias and official names).

>>5688828
>>5688825
Let's replace "official" with "dedicated", meaning a forum primarily and almost exclusively for that one topic.

>>5688844
Honestly, none of them.

Third Parties work because they can make toys under any budget without child safety laws. If you put them under the same constraints as HasTak people, they wouldn't be able to make anything significantly more. The only difference might be character choices.

I'm happy to have both HasTak making cheaper, simpler, mainline stuff and third parties to fill in the obscure, the amazingly complex, and the stuff that just won't sell at Wal-mart (like an electric chair).

>>5688334
hey, thanks for the input. The chase will be on for Hades soon.

>>5688844
FansToys because Takara can't do MPs anymore plus their release pace is awful. With FT by their side, I guess we could get like one MP every six weeks or so.

As someone who's been out of the Third Party loop for a while now, where does the KFC hate come from? From the two KFC figures I do own (The Black repaint of Mugen Scope and Captain Shark), I didn't have too much trouble with them asides from how pointy Captain Shark was, but that's Casey Stark for you.

>>5689141

They just have a REALLY spotty track record when it comes to overall quality. When they first showed up their plastics were horrible and everything was a floppy mess, which soured a lot of people on them. At some point I think they upgraded the plastics but the floppy mess problem sometimes persists, along with other things.

Also basically everything they make looks like complete shit but that's just my personal opinion lol.

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Just saw the preorder for pic related at BBTS, who the hell is it supposed to be?

>>5689141
Poor QC/quality on a lot of their items, plus they have a habit of re-releasing toys with more or less simply better paint jobs and (sometimes) QC issues fixed.

>>5689188
The face looks like the toaster bot Ejector...

>>5686482
>>5686483
This isn't bad, but it's not too impressive either.
I mean hell, RTS Jazz is such a great figure.

>>5689188
>>5689196
Yeah, my first thought was the random appliance-bots from the begining of ROTF.

I think this might just be wholly-original though and BBTS is just thinking that people who like Transformers-related stuff might be into it.

>>5689141

Complete shit quality. When chinese KO's are better than your quality, you know you're fucked

>>5689188
>who the hell is it supposed to be?

Someones idea of a joke, or an aborted child that somehow lived.

>>5689302
>an aborted child that somehow lived.
i keked

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>>5689188
looks like the thing next to Megatron

>>5689438
but why does it turn into a metal slug?

what is the thought process behind that abomination???

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>>5689458

Pic related, probably.

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Man, make toys really nailed it with the comic aesthetic. I wish they'd announce the next one in the manga mech line.

Just got a shipping notification today from nonnef but the tracking number isnt working, how long does his stuff usually take, standard 3-5?

Also anyone here have the nonnef cw hands yet?

>>5689988
Yeah I ordered the eyes for MP10 and they came in that time frame.

>>5689959
almost looks good from that angle

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Haters gonna hate, but as long as it balances well without the stand I'm happy.

>>5690054
her face makes her look like a guy, its no different than DX9's Ironhide

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>>5690054

Although the fact that it comes with that standing base isn't a good sign...

>>5690054

While I don't really agree with

>>5690058

I do think the face looks weird and that's probably the thing that's most keeping me from wanting the figure. It actually reminds me of their studio ox Rodimus, who also has a weird face.

It's also especially glaring when you compare it to Iron Factory cause they do those great moe animu waifu faces for their female figures. I mean I could see people disliking that too but I like them a lot.

>>5689778
Gotta agree, I was impressed how nice that little is. And yeah I'm really wondering who they'll tackle next?

>>5690054
That face is hideous and ruins it more than the not standing.

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>>5690046
Looks great from any angle to me.

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>>5690082
a combiner with that much partsforming has no excuse looking so disproportionate

>>5690128
On the left is with the joints extended for more articulation ala MP 10. If you look at the pics above when pushed in he looks much better. waste could be bigger but isn't a deal breaker.

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>>5690058
>her face makes her look like a guy

Because she is, Anon.

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>Jesus christ how horrifying

>>5689959
>>5690082

The arms are too long.
The forearms are too large.
The helmet is too big and the face is too small.
An egregious amounts of partsforming.

>>5690062
That altmode is super nice.

>>5690054
I'll take IF's cute anime girl aesthetic over this monstrosity.

>>5690054
>mediocre
>tiny
>priced as much as buying LG-10 Arcee from BBTS

seriously, there's no excuse to even get this now.

>>5690514

IF Arcee when?

>>5690530
>Mp Arcee when

there we go

>>5690531

Lewd Arcee when?

No really. Wheres my bubble titted big assed anime stylized lewd fembot?

>>5690546
>Lewd Arcee when?
When I get my bubble titted big assed anime stylized lewd Megatron with trigger dick action.

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>>5690546

Eventually

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>>5690653

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>>5690657

but wait

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Holy shit, just look at this. It's made by the same guy who designed Wei Jiang's OS Evasion Prime, and the vest is fully integrated into the transformation.

>>5690653
>SD baby style
>they give her a puffy ass

Great it looks like shes wearing a diaper, this isn't sexy at all.

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Not as big as I expected, which makes it mildly tempting. I want that Evasion OP bad but I wouldn't buy it any larger than leader class.

>>5690054
This is Dull Surprise, right?
Anyway, I don't know why you'd get this over one of the official releases. Maybe if it was an IDW style Arcee.

>>5690672
Sweet damn.

>>5690678
ok, how much is this gonna run me?

Anybody know the best place to buy both MMC's Cynicus and Anarchus?

I hate with dealing with ebay...

>>5686703
Pretender Jazz inner robot
Marvel comics

>>5690678

Oh, man, you should reconsider, because it's awesome.

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>>5687853
I love you.

>>5690128
Partsforming isn't the issue, every modern Devastator is disproportionate. The real issue is idiots who want to prioritize individual mode proportions and scale even though 95% of Devastators will be displayed combined 95% of the time.

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>>5690128
>no excuse looking so disproportionate
Disproportionate to what? What standard are yout useing? Other imaginary robots that are made out of construction equipment? I wasn't aware there was a standard for that.

>>5689959
He looks cool, but between the supposed quality issues and the fact that literally 50% of the combined mode is extra junk that does absolutely nothing outside of combined mode I'm not touching this set with a ten foot pole.

>>5690858

People proportions generally. Most people can't grab their knees standing up straight and neither should this robot. There's especially no excuse considering the arms just fucking plug in so it could be any length TW wanted them to be.

>>5690672
Cigar, knives, tire feet, no hand panels, integrated wu add-on and bitchin paint scheme! They need to redo every AOE mold for the main cast!

>>5690678
Their Evasion OP is a bit like MP-01, fuck huge, doesn't really go with anything, but is a work of art.

Although, OP doesn't scale that bad with movie stuff, particularly human alliance.

>>5690672
where to buy this?

>>5690672

Will they do a badass gritty repaint? The only thing keeping me from waiting for the Optimus is that he would stand out as the only one painted like that.

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>>5688638

I hope they can keep the partsforming to a bare minimum here, obviously the tank and rocket need to be separate but it would be great if the rest of the transformation is fully integrated.

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>>5688638
>>5691645

How much is this gonna be? This shits kawaii as a motherfucker.

>>5690888
Look at >>5689959 with the shoulder joints pushed the arms are shorter. Not to mention you'd probably have the arms in a fixed pose so you wouldn't even notice.
>>5690866
How many times have the individual bots had to suffer because they had to be self contained combiners? Not to mention stability and possibility of the combined mode itself? So you have to box the forearms and pants when not in use. Worst toy ever huh?

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>>5686430
this bitch has been on preorder at BBTS for over FIVE MONTHS

what the fuck warbotron?

i cant find it for non-rape prices, so this is my only choice..

>>5692018
Gravity Builder looks just fine and that uses almost no partsforming. Sure it's not 100% GEEWUN but that beats half the fucking toy being literally useless when not in a certain mode. I wouldn't mind so much if the parts actually did something, but no. They don't do shit.

This isn't the 80s anymore. We have the engineering skills to work around useless combiner kibble. There is literally no excuse for such excessive and badly implemented partsforming.

>>5692064
Yes he looks good but what about articulation and stability? The combined modes articulation doesn't impress me at all when you compare him to TW. Stability we'll have to wait and see on that one.

Though I will say I'm worried about Longhauls joints over time with all that weight. With TW you don't have to worry about that. The pros of partsforming outweigh the negatives in this case. I guess in your case though boxing three pieces when not in use is just terrible.

>>5692062
Really? I'm surprised, since it's in stock at TFSource.

>>5691645
Oh man, that's so adorable. Damnit I'm gonna have to get this guy now, aren't I?

>>5688638
see, this is what i'm talking about.

it's not that people hate heavy greebles on a toy, it's how the greebles are done that counts.

Mastermade's products have alot of detail, but they're designed in a way the looks cohesive and appealing.
with other 3P companies, i feel they just cover every surface with panel lining and vents because why not

>>5692062
>BBTS
Found your problem. BBTS has been notorious for getting shit way later than everybody else. Couple that with how they will just decide to charge more randomly whenever they feel like it, I've flat out stopped preordering from them anymore.

>>5692200

Funny since they notoriously got all of Warbotron's first stock when Greeblecus was coming out and every other retailer had to wait months before they got their stock.

>>5692099

I own a 600 dollar set of six toys that combine to form one big guy. I do not own a 600 dollar giant action figure that just happens to also be 6 other guys.

To me, play value is high, and having to build my combiner like a lego kit is not fun. It's really not an exaggeration to say half the TW combiner is just extra shit that does nothing in any other mode. It's not really a transformer at that point so much as a freaking kit.

I appreciate good engineering. Having a combiner be the sum of six robots (within reason) is part of why I shell out 600 dollars for them.

He's as articulated as he is because of partsforming. He's as tall as he is because of partsforming. The most baffling thing about him is that he looks like lanky garbage because of partsforming.

It's just cheating. They're doing it differently and I get that but he's just not a transformer at that point. They really could have made a giant perfectly articulated and accurate G1 devastator action figure and you would have the same result.

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Liger looks fucking cool but I really don't like diecast.
Has your Sphinxs given you any trouble?

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>>5692525

Those proportions!

>>5692604
Goddammit, Trump.
Now I can't unsee them.

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>>5692484
>To me, play value is high
bro......

>>5692744
>playing with the toys you spent a fortune on makes you autistic
This board sometimes.

>>5692744

Look out folks we got a real badass on our hands here. This kid is way 2 cool 4 skool.

Partsforming is cool IMO. Constructules or whatever looks bad though.

>>5692744

Sick rebuttal. I'm surprised you didn't post a fedora image and tell me to go back to plebbit.

I don't just set and forget my transformers. I constantly move them around their displays, transform them, pose them, etc. My combiners might stay in combined mode for a month at least before I decide to display them in vehicle mode or whatever suits my fancy.

This is non-conducive to having a gigantic deva-dick, gorilla arms, and a whole head just laying around in a ziplock bag. That's fucking retarded.

>>5692748

There's different degrees of partsforming. I understand the engineering necessity of having forearm bits and maybe separate feet pieces in combined mode but I do need them to go somewhere or do something.

TW Devastator is all fucking partsforming.

Does toyworld devastator have partsforming? I'm unclear on the subject, it never gets discussed.

>>5692757
>having a gigantic deva-dick, gorilla arms, and a whole head just laying around

They really should have found a way to have the combine together as a trailer or something for one of the cons to tow around.

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>>5692757

>>5692767

It's not unreasonable. The dick assembly is a big piece.

>>5692769

The point is that partsforming on that scale is garbage, not that I couldn't find a place to put the parts.

>>5692774
Why does it bother you so much?

>>5692776

It doesn't famalam. I criticize lots of transformers. I'm one of the few people in the thread that thinks MMC Tarn looks like absolute garbage.

It's all just my opinion. If you like it then enjoy it. I went with generation toy's take on devastator just because I prefer the aesthetics. Your money bruh.

Beyond partsforming, I just don't like the Studio Ox design. Devastator should not be 'lean' imo.

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>>5692780
>I'm one of the few people in the thread that thinks MMC Tarn looks like absolute garbage.
There are many of us that think that. I'm especially disappointed because I feel like he's 90% there, if only MMC would rework him a little more.

>>5692786

I think his design is terrible actually, no mechanical complaints. I don't understand the hand criticism.

>>5692788
The hands have the same problem as Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus, they're too loose and don't hold well and look really bad when opened.

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>>5692484
Again your whole argument against the set boils down to "I have to put four extra parts back in the box". You claim play value is high yet your going with a $600 statue. I mean really just look at the horrible shoulder articulation! Save for the tread bros everyone else still transforms into their respective pieces in dev mode.

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Now compare it to TW with the joints extended.

>>5693042
Why is megatron green?

>>5693084
>what is a prototype?

>>5693386
What is someone who can't tell a prototype from a testshot?

>>5692790
>they're too loose
what, do you have him in hand?

>>5693042
>>5693051
I'm confused as to what you're arguing. You claim horrible shoulder articulation yet you post a picture of Gravity Builder with his shoulders up WAY farther than TW's Devy can.

Also, what do you mean by
>Save for the tread bros everyone else still transforms into their respective pieces in dev mode.
Both GB and TW have the treaded bots becoming the upper arms of Devistator like they're supposed to with the forearms being separate parts. At least with GB, they become power generators that the treaded bots can haul in alt mode or wear as backpacks in bot mode if you don't want them sitting off doing nothing.

With TW Devy, you literally don't have a choice as the forearms AND the entire hip assembly are separate pieces with no extra functions.

>>5693393
Test shots are usually painted and cast in the intended color plastics to see how the final product might hold up so they know if further tweaks are needed. That is an unpainted prototype.

>>5693414
GT shoulder articulation breaks up the sculpt and doesn't look natural. As for the arms I was referring to your comment where you basically called this set a giant action master.

Which is an exaggeration as each bot dose what its supposed to do. I'm just going to agree to disagree with you and move on. The GT set looks nice and I admit dose somethings better than TW. However to me he appears to be Giant up scaled. Mind Giant is looks good but that's it. He's no fun to mess with and at his best just standing there.

>>5693084
G2.

>>5693401
Not him but thats what was being said by the reviewer and mmc reps both. We have that confirmed from two separates sources.

>>5693417
>Test shots are usually painted and cast in the intended color plastics to see how the final product might hold up so they know if further tweaks are needed.
Some testshots are, most aren't. Prototypes are prototyped. This isn't prototyped, it's molded. It's a testshot.

>>5693628
>>5693393
oh well, you're arguing semantics then. Point is, Megs is green because it's not the final product.

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Do you guys think that Maketoys will ever finish a Shattered Glass Computron, or was Ripper just a solo figure?

>>5693739
If they didn't put out a second one yet, my outlook on more is poor. It might not have sold well enough to justify.

>>5693743
Yeah, I totally get that. Hopefully they pull something out of left field for their next combiner (Liokaiser would be awesome).

>>5693499

Each bot does not do what it's supposed to do, as the bots fail to transform into Devastator without half of the figure being separate pieces. TW Devastator is a lego kit.

Criticizing GT Devastator is a butthurt tu quoque that has nothing to do with TW Devy looking like hot garbage. I'm not even comparing the two, in fact I'm not even comparing TW devastator to any other Devastator. It's also a complete exaggeration to call him a statue as he's as poseable as most other combiners.

TW Devy is, in a vacuum, completely garbage. He's barely a transformer. He's an oversized lego kit with terrible proportions despite partsforming, and in fact, it's because of the bolted on pieces is why he looks so garbage.

The fact that you're practicing so much damage control about partsforming of all things tells me that you're just so sour with buyers remorse that you'll eat up whatever shit your delt because you've already invested.

Partsforming is objectively bad. TW Devastator 50% unintegrated spare parts. Poor proportions are objective bad, and TW Devastator looks like Shaq and an orangutan had a green dumpster baby.

This is way before I even consider the QC issues on the individual bots, the shit tread and mixer drum gimmicks which hinder poseability and transformations, the godawful squeaking on hip joints, the thin ass fragile elbow joints on the arm bots, the garbage proportions on every single bot so far (three mile deep legs on every member), G1 bots with a non G1 style combined mode, etc, etc, etc.

TW devastator exists for his combined mode just like Hasbro's does, but TW is so incompetent that he can't even get there without having to be built with parts. It's embarrassing.

I wanted him to be good so badly. The headsculpts are gorgeous. I love the size of the thing. It's as G1 as third party is gonna get, but everything else is so completely shit that I just couldn't do it.

>>5693777
>Partsforming is objectively bad.
Nope.

>>5693796

Good argument.

There's a consensus that partsforming is bad within the hobby because Transformers are supposed to change without having to pull it all appart to reassemble it. This isn't the 80's anymore. We can engineer Tf's to go from one thing to another without having a bunch of extra garbage.

I can tolerate having feet pieces for combiners if they do something in other modes. The serve a purpose in stability of the combined mode.

TW is half partsforming because doing it right would be too hard. It's shit.

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>>5693777
Am I supposed to read all this bullshit?

>>5693810
>There's a consensus that....
There is a concensus in this thread that we are sick of hearing about it.

Why don't you two faggots just post your emails so that you can cry to each other in private.

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>>5693812

That's like a one page essay. Two paragraphs at the most. Read a book nigger.

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>>5693818
>That's like a one page essay
Yeah, on parts forming.......

You wrote an essay... on parts forming.

>>5693817

This isn't your tumblr page. Adults can have civil disagreements you passive aggressive little shit. Talk about something else if the conversation isn't going your way.

>>5693822

You'd have it rough in college. Don't call people dumb if you're too lazy to read.

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>>5693777
>Each bot does not do what it's supposed to do, as the bots fail to transform into Devastator without half of the figure being separate pieces.

>>5693845

What confused you about that statement?

TW Devastator is made up of six robots which account for about half of the figure. The rest is made of two arms, the entire head, and everything below the mid torso and above the knees is also a separate piece.

>>5693862
>Each bot does not do what it's supposed to do
They have a vehicle mode, and they have a robot mode. They do what they are supposed to and they use extra parts to do the combined mode, like nearly every other combiner has and continues to do.

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>>5693862
>Scrapper doesn't transform into a leg
>Mixmaster doesn't transform into a leg
>Hook doesn't transform into a chest
>Longhaul dosen't transform into an abdomen

So I'm at an impasse. Gundog, Sphinx or Impactor/Commotus?

>>5692064
>Gravity Builder looks just fine and that uses almost no partsforming. Sure it's not 100% GEEWUN but that beats half the fucking toy being literally useless when not in a certain mode. I wouldn't mind so much if the parts actually did something, but no. They don't do shit.
Well that's the cool thing, we have different options to suit different tastes.

>>5690145
The one on the right has been photoshopped.

>>5694020
Commotus is pretty bad ass and likely the best version of turmoil we will get any time soon.

>>5694053
I know that but the pics below aren't and show the shoulders sitting up more making him looks better.
>>5689959
>>5690082

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>>5693417
>>5693628
who gives a shit? we've seen the toy in its final colors already

>>5694078
>>5694078
I'm not crazy for wanting this upscaled to Leader class and tweaked/touched-up a bit in order be a stand-in for an MP Megatron, right? It'd be leaps and bounds ahead of my apollyon simply for having working tolerances and a transformation that... works, actually.

>>5693875

The extra parts aren't integrated in any way, shape, or form in addition to comprising a greater percentage of Devastator's final form than any other combiner to date. He is literally half partsforming.

>>5693894

Long haul Transforms into half a torso as he is supposed to be what the dick piece is as well.

Hook doesn't integrate the head.

The arm bots are really just shoulders.

>>5694074

The bigger issue is his disproportionate right collar area being much thinner than his left.

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My pandinus finally shipped (fuck you tfsource).

16.
Fucking.
Pounds.

>>5694299

How are you supposed to play with something that heavy? Feral Rex gives me enough trouble and he's nowhere near that weighty.

>>5694302
Rex has shitty joints though.


I have utopia as well and he's way easier to pose / transform.

>>5694322

Since when? Mine are nice and heavy. It's more of just the ordeal of having to deal with posing something that big and weight.

>>5693765
Word on the street is they're doing Superion next.

>>5693765
>Maketoys Liokaiser

I'd buy two

>>5694379
>Word on the street is they're doing Superion next.

for what purpose? everyone has the official one by now

give me liokaiser!

>>5694379
That'd be fantastic if it happens. Superion needs some love considering he's only gotten one fairly mediocre 3P release, and the CW toy. Liokaiser can wait, haha.

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So, after owning both sets of Constructicons, (Toyworld and Generation Toy) I think im going to sell the Generation toy bots.

Nothing wrong with them, honestly they probably have the better QC of the two sets, but I like the scale and aesthetic of TW just a little more. If anyone wants Bonecrusher, Mixmaster, and Scavenger Ill hook you up with a good price.

>>5694707

What were the QC issues with TW?

>>5694707
I might be interested in the Mixmaster. Mind if I ask what price you were thinking of?

>>5694078
Nice, try to say something related next time.

>>5694720
dont worry. next time you're wasting your time arguing for no fuckin reason, i'll keep my lips sealed.

CW Superion with the PE kits is already pretty good and TFC Liokaiser has actually been great so far.

Bruticus is in dire need of a good update. Colossus just doesn't cut it anymore.

>>5694714
Im selling all 3 for $220 shipped, OR $80 each.

>>5694712
>What were the QC issues with TW?
Nothing major. My mixmaster was missing a thumb (chosen prime already replaced it). Some people have had some cracked elbows, but I havnt seen it on mine.

>>5694727
Those prices ain't too bad. I think I'll pass though.

>>5694726
>Bruticus is in dire need of a good update

CW/UW Bruticus with PE addons.

>>5694745

>Polishing a turd

>>5694726
>>5694852
if CW Superion with PE upgrades is good then why not CW Bruticus with PE?

>>5695113
because Superion was well designed. Bruticus/Defensor was not.

>>5695135
that is what you implied sir, i understand. but i am asking you to elaborate on it though.

cause i got UW Bruticus on preorder with PE pieces waitin for him.

>>5694302
>How are you supposed to play with something that heavy?

From the videos I've seen, I'm under the impression you don't so much "pose" or "play" with Pandinus so much as you wrestle it into obeying your will.

>>5695190
>wrestle it into obeying your will
>SCORPONOK SERVES NO ONE
>*falls down the shelf

>>5695135

But Bruticus is well designed. It fixed all the flaws from Defensor. The only weak part of the whole thing is the helicopter molds shitty weak port that may or may not stress.

>>5695190
>>5695196

That's pretty much why I haven't gone with any of them. Too huge. Ratchets are appropriately heavy but it's just a mean experience.

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Fuck yes, I'm happy I waited for this version, I really like magnus in powered convoy color, and this looks way better in these colors than the original one, even if the cab is a bit dull.

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>>5695486

Look good, but man I would love to have a face plated version then add him as Delta Magnus

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>>5695498
yeah, I would really like a faceplate too, The face is the only thing I'm not too keen on. Still, looks good.

>>5695486
>cab is black, not the proper blue

fuck doing it right!

>>5695498
What's the mini Cybertron Optimus Prime from?

>>5695805
THS-02 Hybrid Style Galaxy Convoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO24apKz-yw muh dick

>>5695912

...Is that tread pull-joint on clear plastic?

>>5695809
>>5695805
THS-01 actually.

it's on the rare and pricey side, and honestly its not that impressive

>>5695912
God damn thats an awesome transformation

>>5695912
>Those huge expowed gaps in back
>That visible head

Nah son. Wait for fanstoys.

>>5695486
Gonna get this one too. Very excited. Him and UM can team up.

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>>5696088

Yeah, it just a mini version of the big Cybertron Optimus. Some of the plastic is thin and crack under the spring weapons. (I reinforced it with crazy glue) They could have added some extra articulation like a thigh swivel. It will look nice for my display

>>5696254
it blows my mind how the THS one doesnt have the leader version's thigh swivels. even though it's supposed to be a high-end collectible...

>>5696256
>high-end collectible

that's cute, you think that term means things like "does stuff" and "is durable". It really means "we're selling it with some ad fluff printed on the box, it's a cheap piece of crap but you will pay more because we hyped it"

>>5696265
honestly? i agree with you, and i feel your description fits the Masterpieces line to an extent. Seeing as how other Japanese companies are capable of more with similar prices to MPs.

i'm just saying, THS Prime should be able to do something as simple as a thigh swivel, seeing as how the bigger toy marketed to kids can do it

I stopped following the whole thing ages ago to protect myself from constant disappointment, but it looks like nonnef's stuff is actually shipping out now? Can anyone actually confirm getting the feet? I still need replacements for the three combiners I have and I reeeeally don't want to pay for three perfect effect sets I won't use half of.

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>>5696256
>>5696265
>>5696269

Yeah, I was slightly disappointed in that.

Luckily I got a deal on it and will look nice posed in front of Primus

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>>5696340
I got the version 1 feet a monthago and I was abit disappointed with them. I bought bone white and it was the black feet spray painted(badly) white and flaking off. And I didn't even get the rubber skid stopper.

And It was loose as fuck. It took a lot of floor wax to make him stand without falling over.

He has the version 2 feet up now for 15. I think he wanted 20 before.

I say buy one pair and see if you like them.

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>>5696416
I didn't want these, I had no interest in them before.

But fuck me do they look there.

>>5696416

I don't know how to feel about Dinobots that don't turn into dinosaurs.

Especially Legends ones, because now this means we're not gonna get IF ones that turn into dino's any time soon.

>>5696227

>25 years later

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>>5696476
ftfy

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>>5689188
repugnus?

>>5695912
My only issues are the clear purple plastic pull-out joints, the shoulder spikes in robot mode, and the sorta dinky turret.

Aside from that, I REALLY like the look of that guy; The box tank and box jet are definitely daft to be, dare I say, fun to look at. And that robot mode is REALLY great -looking.

>>5696402
holy shit dust your figures

What should I spend 150 american dollars on senpai?

I was looking at Chigurh, Quakewave, or maybe preordering Gewalt.

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>>5696872
So you like decepticons. Have you considered Diabolus Rex?

>>5696899

I like purple decepticons specifically.

I really haven't. Nothing against him, I've seen the reviews and he looks stellar. It's just weird that he doesn't have a robot mode.

>>5695912

And my dick, also.

So many hinges...

>>5696902
>he doesn't have a robot mode

...What?

>>5696902
Yeah, that's always been my only gripe with trypticon, his 'bot' mode is a dino mode, I woulda preferred if it was the equivalent of the battleship modes on fort max and metroplex, in that it was a secondary alt mode, and that he had an actual robot mode

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Looks like they canned the chromed sword hilt and gun. Also added tail fins for jet mode and an angry face.

>>5697093
looks shit

>>5697093

WHEN

>>5697093
That MiG-25 is all wrong, it needs a spine and the canopy is way off. It just looks bad beside a reasonably accurate Starscream.

>>5697093
>brick with wings

Wait for fans toys.

Anyone got pics of this FT Blitzwing that everyone's talking about?

>>5697161
>>5697175
To be fair on DX9, the thing needs to be able to turn into a tank AND a pretty blocktacular robot. Sacrifices had to be made for it to work at all.

I'm more pissed off that the tank gun has nowhere to go in jet mode. Partsforming needs to fucking die.

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>>5686430
i dont like Cassy Sark, but as long as there's more Lockdown in the world, i'm okay with it

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>>5698126
gun face!

>>5698128
i'm into the idea that Lockdown always changes himself and his alt modes, but the back of this jet is not so hot...

>>5698130
I'm pretty sure the back of the jet is only the armory add-on, and he has a sleeker jet without it.

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>>5695912
>he calls it a bento box
My sides.

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>>5698130
It's a trailer for his collection.

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>>5698490
And now here he is without it.

>>5698494
Looking at this, I can see why they chose to retool it into Cyclonus.

>>5698490
Why the predacons faces?

>>5698719
Anyone has images?

>>5698967
>Why the predacons faces?
they're new upgrades faces by MMC, they dont come with Lockdown

>>5698967
>>5699484
I think the idea of them being there though is that they're pulling from his bounty hunter origins from TFA. I see it as MMC's story of the Predacons going off the rails (not a surprise considering their lack of loyalty to Megs in G1 and erratic actions in other continuities) and Megs or another high ranking Con putting a price on their heads, with Lockdown being the one to claim it first.

BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY!
A TOY THEORY!

>>5699777
>their lack of loyalty to Megs in G1
they werent loyal? what did they do?
also was this in the cartoon?

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Got my Nonnef CW feet today

for some reason they arrive pre assembled, thought they were supposed to be a kit

Anyway, sprew marks all over the shop and the pieces were a bit loose

took them apart, cleaned up all the edges, super glued them back together and bam, some sexy ass feet, can't wait till he gets the hands back up

also didn't receive the rubber tubing for the stability, was that a supplies limited thing or did I get an incomplete set? kinda bummed about that part

>>5700118
That's weird, mine were a kit. Also be careful, mine contributed to the death of my Defensor.

>>5699854
Sorry, I meant G1 comics. I don't actually remember them doing much in the G1 cartoon but in the comics, Shockwave (or maybe it was Ratbat.... memory's a bit foggy) ordered them to kill Megatron, a task they happily undertook.