Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>55302313
>Really Ameiko?
>Gnolls?

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>>55302313
>no question

Tell me about your last level up, /pfg/. What cool stuff did you get? What cool thing are you one step closer to? How complicated are your level ups? How long did it take you? What are you still looking forward to?

In hindsight, my last level was pretty lame, it was just a barrel of +1's. But, Mixed Combat soon, fellow Stalker!

>>55302695
Friday just leveled up to 5!

>>55302313
Does anyone have DHB's essential items for traveling list?

i wish i was happy.

>>55303516
You and me both friend

>>55302830
But why?

>>55304216
Why what?

>>55302695
A spirit guardian to possess her blade and bolster its deadliness against her monstrous foes!

Is there an upload of the legendary gunslinger playtest besides the official PDF? I need to refer to it but it's been closed down.

>>55303514
I want to travel with Dreadfully Handsome Boy~

Daily reminder that Sohei1/Enlightened Paladin6 is fun as fuck and I'm having a blast.

>>55304738
How does holy champion feature (20th level Paladin) works on an Enlightened Paladin, you don't have Smite Evil anymore

>>55302695
I haven't leveled in a long time. Next level doesn't bring much. Uncanny Dodge so I don't get flatfeet. Level after that is when a few things turn on, including 2 more attacks, which should spike my damage pretty nicely.

>>55302830
An exciting time for initiators, I hear! A shame for 6th level initiators and noon initiators though. Any cool stances and stuff people are gunning for?

>>55304342
What kinds of foes? What's the spirit guardian like? Do you get along with them?

>>55304841
That part is just dead. You still get the DR and the bit about max healing.

>>55304881
Kek, that archetype is borked as fuck, at first sight you see that it removes several stuff that doesn't tell you they got removed (like good spells that need Good Aura and Smite). I mean, congrats if you're having fun, but you're giving way more than what you're reciving. Is not Holy Gun, but damn if it isn't close.

So anons, who here did Charisma as a dump stat and actually played their character as socially inept and not gone the 'I just don't speak.' route?

>>55305242
I haven't, but I once did that with Int. The Investigator tried to share some schematics for a gatling gun with my 8 Int Inquisitor, who's response was to just stare at it for a minute then go "what the hells am I looking at? Is this Elvish script or something"

>>55305242
makes me wanna play a Vitalist with dumped Charisma. just make them incredibly shy, yet since they're the healer, the Party loves them regardless.

>>55302695
Access to his first lvl3 extract, one extra die of bomb damage and much, much fastery alchemical item creation. Still not many formulae, but the party wizard might be willing to write up a few scrolls of his known spells for him to convert, so that's bound to expand soon enough.
Now that i've got everything else i need, every level up from now on is just going to be either an upgrade to bomb damage or a new bomb discovery, so those are bound to be quick

I wish there were gold-to-exp rules in PF, because he's lagging a bit behind the rest of the party but if everything goes right next session his "business venture" should net him around 12k gold in just a few hours, and that's more than half the expected character wealth for a level 7 PC

>>55305292
That's a pretty good one.
I may try that with a barbarian or something similar.

>>55305296
Depending on how you play the shy, that could work

>>55305242
I don't usually dump Cha (or any stat below 10) but once played a ranger (with 8 on Cha) as a coarse, harsh and arrogant dude.

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>>55304878
>What kinds of foes?
Hideous monsters and deranged madmen!
>What's the spirit guardian like?
I don't know yet since level up happened recently, but I hope it's friendly
>Do you get along with them?
See previous

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>>55305242
Made a monk with 8 in CHA and fluffed him as always having been sheltered during his upbringing since he grew up in the monastery, being trained by his master or spending long periods of time transcribing books, so he never developed good social skills. Roleplayed him by stuttering somewhat heavily and having to repeat the same word several times in a row, but the rest of my group DM excluded didn't catch on and just thought i was acting dumber than usual

>>55305242
It's not an immense dump stat whenever it is, but I try to play it off as different little things that turn people off. Maybe they're overly harsh and swear all the time, perhaps they have a nervous tic that they do all the time, or perhaps they're just nervous and bad with words.

Constant fidgeting is usually easy to keep up with, though I have to be careful not to mention it too much lest it become obnoxious.

>>55305390
I'm usually that way too but I dumped Cha for a guy and stuck with it.

I'm also doing a Bard that's higher up the food chain for a Curse of the Crimson Throne campaign and I'll be playing her as Haughty.

>>55305431
Yeah, that could be troublesome.

I also wonder how many people that dump CHA actually make them ugly.

The Dwarf I did it with wasn't exactly flat out ugly but he did have a dad bod/portly look to him.

>>55305242
On multiple occasions, actually. One was semi-emotionless and blunt, and didn't really like people. The current one loves to talk, but she's just bad at knowing what not to say, so people think she's crass, dumb muscle. People liked the former because she was logical and solved their stupid drama when they bugged her. People like the latter because she's really good at her job.

>>55305449
Yeah, you gotta find this sweet spot.


>>55305511
That's fairly fun to do.
I enjoy doing the latter and then forcing a conversation if the party doesn't take the lead real quick.

One thing I don't think I've ever seen, and I'm tempted to do some time, is do Dex as a dump stat.

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>>55305242
Who here has given their character high Charisma and played them as socially skilled, instead of just the "I'm a slut" type?

>>55305242
Hello, dump stat charisma with orator and other drop in and drops outs here. 28 linguistics as of level 12. I have no social presence and usually over-analyze or talk in circles while detailing what I mean. Usually coming off with a boring but convincing way of talking. When you've done nothing but converse with your own shadow and rot in a abandoned library you end up that way as it turns out.

>>55305569
Why not both?

>>55305569
i once Played a Paladin who, through usage of the Brevoy Bandit Trait, was a really good Psychologist/Therapist. that was pretty fun. Imagine fighting a Holy Warrior who you think is stupid beyond measure. but during the fight....he Talks. and he finds out exactly what makes you tick. and before you know it....you're sitting on a couch with the man listening to all of your life's problems and getting sound advice as to how to deal with it.

>>55305569
That's what I'm doing with a Bard.

>>55305601
Nice.

>>55305569
Several occasions, once again. I've actually never played a character as a slut.

Skald with high charisma played as a party guy with an infectious smile.

Sorc with a primal sort of charisma. When he entered a room, others were sure to take notice.

Bard with a voice as smooth as silk. She loved wordplay, and telling jokes. Others were drawn to her beautiful singing.

Lady adept at reading and leading others. She was a bit of a team mom.

>>55305569
Me.

>>55305569
I never played a slut, not even as a bard

>>55305601
Orator is fun. Low cha high int linguist who hated people, and would often deride them when they deemed his time so unimportant that they would waste it by trying to string more than two monosyllabic words together in a gross mockery of speech. He had respect for those that spoke more than one tongue, unless they used magic to achieve it, or they spoke one of the lower languages, such as Catfolk. He handed out some of the most savage insults I've ever used IC, though he could suck up to others incredibly well, and would do so if it were in the party's best interest.

>>55305756
>some of the most savage insults I've ever used IC
gib examples pls

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>>55305805
They were specific to the people, usually. And I was tipsy, so it was kinda stream-of- thought. Sorrymasen

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Anyone have any experience using the Fiendish Transformation specifically with a succubus?

>>55305945

There can be no apology you shameless deceiver.

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>>55306065
I should have saved the logs...

Why are extracts so much more interesting than spells?

>>55306228
they actually make sense in the vancian system

>>55306146
>Even Speedwagon is anguished

Our group decided to use the verbal duel rules for the first time in our game

oh man does it feel weird

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>>55303514
>>55304619

>>55302695
Last level I got a +1 Natural bonus to AC, DR 1/Magic, and at-will cantrips from a bunch of different spell-lists!

>>55307187
Thanks, Dastardly Hell Bandit!

>>55307203
Whoops, didn't finish the whole list of questions. I'm one step closer to being able to use Large weapons and riding on my dragon-mount. Level-ups are really quick, since even though my character's got two lists they have to pick and choose from, most of them are pretty obvious choices and the ones that aren't are generally "anything you choose will be at least decent".

>>55307187
>tfw you used to travel DHB-style, but you've slowly packed less and less on characters over the years

Am I curing my autism?

>>55305569
Never played a 'slut'. Even when I played a bard I was a trug trafficker and con man, not a slut.

>>55305569
Why not both? My current high Cha wizard (24 Cha at level 11) is socially talented, highly diplomatic, and an insatiable slut. Sorta comes with the territory of being Nocticula's daughter.

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>>55305242
I dumped charisma as hard as I could on an investigator in order to play pic related

When a Living Monolith 5 with a ka stone uses their Soul Stone ability to gain the benefits of Righteous Might, should the duration be as that spell (1 round/level) or as the previously used Enlarge Person (1 minute/level)?

I'm kinda new to Pathfinder and I'm gonna be joining a game hosted by a friend of mine next week, got curious what class you guys would recommend for someone who likes melee combat and pretty much blocking enemies from advancing to my party.

>>55305242
My low-CHA characters tend to be less "stuttering" or "silent" and more "rude to everyone constantly."

>>55305242
I played it as abraisive. He was a 7 charisma mercenary. Fantastic at his job, but highly unlikely. He was respected and even feared, but if you talked to him you realized he was kind of a piece of shit.

>>55307187
Is traveling DHB style bad? Or is he just a harmless autist?

Also do we have any word on intrigue game?

>>55308002
Well believe it or not, having all that equipment rarely ever actually helps until it does. There's a lot of things that lists like that just can't circumvent, but you will at least have a lot more conveniences and random tools (shovels, candles, etc.) to make your trip go more smoothly.

He's a helpful autist, but an autist nonetheless.

>>55302313
i dont play pathfinder but i do play pox nora and i like your image, OP

>>55305242
7 Charisma occultist who while not socially inept is about as rough as coarse sand when it comes to being anything other than a condescending and foul mouthed prick despite being polite.

>>55307885
Fighter with polearms, take the feat that allows you to attack your adjacent squares and combat reflexes. Anything trying to move past you will provoke an attack from you, plus it's easy to understand
Did they tell you anything about the campaign you'll be running?

>>55308256
Alright thanks I'll take a look at that, and not really, he said it was going to at the very least start as mercenary work and then go from there since the others playing are also fairly new to table top games but they are all picking back line type characters.

>>55307885
Barbarian with a Lucerne Hammer, Combat Reflexes, Come and Get ME reage power, Bodyguard, and Combat PAtrol

Checking in on /pfg/ after a month or so, what's the memegame scene looking like? Did all that autism get dumped onto /sfg/?

>>55308060
What does it mean to be like him and then stop being like him over time?

>>55308852
You've learned to stop worrying so much and love in-game mishaps?

>>55308891
Maybe so. I tend to play more endearing characters now too.

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>Everyone sits down at the table
>Everyone introduces their characters
>It gets to anon
>What are you playing?
>Oh I'm gonna be playing a weretiger monk this game
>everyone elses faces when
I hope they're ready for this bullshit

>>55309104
>monk
As long as its core, It should be no more dangerous than a Nat.Attack Barbarian

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Do Shoanti girls have womb tattoos?

>>55305242
5 Charisma LN verging on LE Monk.
Told everyone exactly what he thought of them. Didn't hold back when asked to give his opinion on anything.
Frequently got into fights within the group over the next course of action to take when he believed they were acting like retards.
Still tried to be diplomatic with a total of -3.

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Tell us about the magic systems in your campaign, /pfg/!

In the campaign I'm a player in, most casters use Spherecasting and are locked into certain casting traditions depending on the region they're from, with the occasional Veilweaver scattered here and there. The gothic campaign I'm currently GMing makes heavy use of Strange Magic, Pactmaking, and good old fashioned alchemy.

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>>55309221
Eventually, but at level 1 I have 30 STR and a bunch of other stats so early game is gonna be good. Eventually though it'll start to suck

>>55309358
That's half the fun of low charisma.

Nothing better than telling them that they are doing things wrong while also implying they are idiots.

>>55309104
Do you not have character creation rules set before the game? Why would an oddball furry monk be a surprise if the rules don't stop it?

>>55309539
Level adjustment will fuck me in the ass further down the line so I might be retarded but when I'm a level 1 monk while everyone else is level 4 etc etc. Class skills will eventually outweigh my retarded stats

>>55309655
Magic items will let you catch up in other ways, don't worry
How's your HP doing?

>>55309655
>DM allowing templates
he got what he asked for

>>55308851
Starfinder doesn't have enough material to support memegames.

>>55308851
The first memegame should be coming online this November, on the anniversary of Rise of the Jade Regent.

>>55309843
Actually, I've got a question on this.

Has anyone here played Jade Regent and, if so, is it as bad as everyone says it is and/or can it be salvaged?

>>55309878
It's pretty okay so far

commoner build plz

>>55309878
It's been pretty solid so far, though we've only gotten to what I figure is Act 2 of Book 1.

>>55309878

>As bad as everyone says it is

I was under the impression it was one of the better-received APs-everyone agrees that the Caravan rules are hot garbage and should be ignored, but the rest of it is pretty good.

>>55309962
Major issues I've heard, beyond Caravan rules, is with the Main NPCs of the campaign.

Granted, I've been too busy running Kingmaker to dig into it too much but I've tended to hear negative remarks about that campaign.

>>55309962
The AP has an admittedly ponderous start, but everything once you hit Brinewall Castle is fantastic, with the AP really hitting it's stride by the time you enter Tian Xia in Book 4.

The time you spend in Hongal is downright magical.

>>55309938
Weapon Focus: Club and beat yourself to death before the rats get you.

>>55309787
Thanks to using the weretiger HD I got 6d8 to roll so I'm sitting at 50 HP and the rest of the party is like 8 HP
>>55309789
I mean yah, if this campaign doesn't last long it'll be great for me

>>55310029
How the fuck are they at 8 HP at level 4 you shitter?

>>55302695
Level 4 spells and Augment Summons on my Cleric, now I'm wrecking shit with Celestial Tigers.

>>55310168
No, they're level 1
I have 3+ LA

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>>55309391
>30 STR at Lvl 1
Unless the dm threw you a bone there's no reason for you to have it that high.

>>55310222
Well I have 18, but when shifting into hybrid form as a weretiger I have +12 STR which puts me at 30

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>>55310232
Lycanthrope template only gives you +2 STR

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>>55310263

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>>55310294
Book and page #?
I'm going off of this http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/lycanthrope/

>>55310333
3.5 monster manual 1 pg 178

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>>55310360
>3.5
your dm is a retard and deserves his whole game crashing and burning after you solve every encounter by yourself

>>55310360
>3.5
Jesus fuck. You don't deserve a DM that permissive.

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>>55310360
>3.5
Well there's the problem.

>>55310396
To be fair, his retarded DM also has him as a retarded player who wants to break the game over a knee.

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>>55310396
>>55310412
>>55310416
>>55310478
Yah after the first session he told the party he's never looked over lycanthropy tables and just kinda glanced at it so when I told him I'm playing a weretiger monk he shrugged and said that's cool but after the first combat session he said it's not gonna fly and he would REALLY appreciate it if I came in with a normal character

Must have been a lack of communication between us cause I off handily joked with him about bringing a weretiger monk and he was like "Yah sure, that sounds pretty cool go ahead and do it"

To which I was just like "What the fuck? Really I was just joking about bringing a stupid broken character but if you're cool with it I'm gonna do that"

Now he knows why I was joking about it cause he didn't understand how retard strong weretigers are

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>>55310561
They're really not that bad if you use the actual Pathfinder rules.

>>55310633
I would prefer pathfinder but this group prefers 3.5 and won't allow outside rules

>>55310561
Your DM should rebalance you to a skinwalker.

>>55310561
Use rulebooks for the game you're actually fucking playing you giant cunt.

>"HUR HURR I HOPE THEY'RE READY FOR MUH DEATHWATCH SPACE MARINE CHARACTER IN PATHFINDER"
You were literally wanking yourself over building a character that basically amounted to googling online templates and finding something that had like +40bajillionty whatevers and stats of "I WIN" that said "were-tiger" on it.

Words cannot describe how retarded you are for thinking this was okay, and how dumb your GM is for not checking over the fucking character sheet. DIAF you furry fuck.

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>>55309375
Vancian spellcasting from the CRB, since the Die Vecna Die! happened, Alchemy, and DSP Psionics.

The Spellplague won't happen in my campiagn, so we'll be sticking with the normal Pathfinder rules.

The PCs have fought enemy initiators. It will be a few more sessions before they fight enemy mages and psychics.

>>55311077
Hey I'm just trying to play Bloody Roar DnD

>>55311184
Use the fucking rulebooks for the edition you are actually playing. Or if you want something else ask your dm and MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.

>>55311216
>>55311077
I am using the rulebooks for the edition we're playing though, where's the disconnect?
We're playing 3.5
I used 3.5 monster manual 1
I used 3.5 lycanthropy rules
I used 3.5 level adjustment
Like why are you so upset about me using 3.5 rules in a 3.5 game?

>>55311246
Then why the fuck are you bragging about it in the Pathfinder General you fucking shitheel?

>>55311246
>posting in a pathfinder thread when you're playing 3.5
>at no point clarifying the edition you're playing until you get butthurt over people calling you out.
Fuck off.

>>55311246
Because you're posting about it in /pfg/ so everybody assumed you were playing Pathfinder. Shocking, I know.

>>55311313
>I would prefer pathfinder but this group prefers 3.5 and won't allow outside rules

This actually clarified what anon was playing, but doesn't really change how dumb talking about it here was.

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Hey /pfg/ 3.5 question here, there's only 5th ed and pfg so I figured I should ask here

I'm about to start a session with a group where we all start lv 2 right, and I've chosen to go with Human Duskblade. The catch is I want my character to only have one arm, but he's a martial caster so he'll need a free hand to cast. So I've decided to go with the hidden weapons from complete scoundrel so I got the Knee Blade, Wrist Blade, Sleeve Blade and Boot Blade, what other weapons should I consider? Plenty of throwing javelins or throwing daggers? Are there any other items I should consider like alchemist fire for some variety? I have spells but not a whole lot at this low level.

>>55309375
...can somebody explain to me what's happening in this image? Please?!

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>>55311380
Make a new thread.

>>55311411

>>55311411
Swole wizard proving to the slackjawed martial in the corner how superior he is and his excellent lady skills

Anyone have the version with the subtitles on it?

>>55311380
Talk to your dm about fluffing your character as having only one arm, but still functioning as a perfectly normal person. You just don't use that other arm for fighting with weapons (though it still is 'used' for spellcasting and not suffering ridiculous penalties on everyday activities).

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>>55311436
I did, wanna guess how many replies it got. Actually I'll give you the answer. None, so I figured I would ask in a active pfg thread since they're somewhat similar.

If it would please the crown may I ask my 3.5 and bother you for an opinion
>>55311542
I'll ask but he mentioned if I go through with it he's gonna penalize me stuff like climbing and swimming and things that require checks so I don't think he's gonna let that slide for me, but I expected that so I'm not to worried about, I've looking at items to try and mitigate those checks so it might not be so harsh

>>55311436
honestly what else are SAD classes supposed to do with all those leftover points

>>55311603
I checked the archive. I found one mention of a 3.5 thread, and nothing for duskblade.

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How reliable are orcs as mercenaries?

>>55311884
As long as they have an enemy to fight, and are being well paid and provisioned, pretty well. Once thy run out of fights, or if you start to dry thier funds, thats when you'll get problems

Also, whatever you do. becareful and avoid letting them take 60% casualties in a short amount of time

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>>55311884
They're less likely to take the money and run.

If it ever came out that they were too cowardly to finish a job, no one would ever take them seriously ever again.

>>55311934
It's 30% casualties that morale breaks (as a rule of thumb).

>>55311934
> becareful and avoid letting them take 60% casualties in a short amount of time
I feel like this applies to everything with a sense of self preservation.

>>55311380
Sleight of hands checks for spinning your weapon in the air, casting the spell or doing the thing and then catching it again

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What do I have to offer to get people to leave PFS and join my game?

>>55312681
PFS is drop in/drop out. Just offer a homegame, and people will likely play it.

I think I am just about the worst Mystic ever. On average I'm dealing 8-10 DPR at Level 5.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/88673/iron-gods-and-flesh-desires

Those character creation rules are real fuckin' neato.

>>55312736
I want to fuck Argent until he cums hands free, desu

>>55312736
wew my fucking lads

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>>55312736
My dude

>>55312736
What the fuck?

Why not just fucking jerk off at this point? Jesus.

>>55312681
PFS is the last resort of people who have no other way to play, if they wouldn't rather be in your game something is seriously wrong.

>>55311884
They're Chaotic Evil, so not very. Go with Hobgoblins instead.

>>55312944
>PFS
>last resort
>not living campaigns
You haven't seen the real bottom.

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>>55312944
I mentioned that I'm using the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting and 3pp in the flyer.

>>55313014
Should have said something interesting enough to draw people in, like "We're not playing in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting"

>>55312856
Some people are just too thirsty.

Does a creature get a save upon entering the area of a Silence spell or does the spell have to be centered on the creature to allow a save?

>>55313703
Has to be on the creature to give a save.

Think of it as the difference between painting a room and painting a person who doesn't want to be painted.

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>>55313703
>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/coreRulebook/spells/silence.html#silence
>The spell can be centered on a creature, and the effect then radiates from the creature and moves as it moves. An unwilling creature can attempt a Will save to negate the spell and can use spell resistance, if any.

The saving throw only applies when the spell is centered on a target.

>>55313734
>>55313744
so if a fighter has a necklace that has Silence cast on it, and he goes to harass an enemy wizard, the wizard is basically fucked, right?

>>55313752
Yes.

>>55313752
Yes.

>>55313752
You could also just cast it on the fighter, as creatures can willingly fail saves.
This is assumed to happen with beneficial spells like healing and buffs, thus why they say Yes(Harmless) to saves.

>>55313752
The caster could have Silent Spell, in which case they're less fucked.

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>>55313794
How often have you seen a PC or NPC take and use this feat?

>>55313823
Not often. It is a possibility, though I have no clue how common it is.

>>55313835
Depends on how commonly the PCs fuck over the GMs encounters with the Warrior of Silence.

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>>55313835
>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/npcCodex/core/index.html

Sorcerer - five times
Wizard - two times
Clerics and Druids - zero

Most mages I've played with focused more on item creation and raising their damage.

What is the class that gives you attacks of opportunity based on strength? Also are what ways to give extra attacks of opportunity besides combat reflexes?

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>>55313915
High Guardian (Fighter)

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo-fighter-archetypes/high-guardian-fighter-archetype/

>https://cse.google.com/cse?q=combat+reflexes&cx=006680642033474972217%3A6zo0hx_wle8#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=combat%20reflexes&gsc.ref=more%3Aclasses&gsc.sort=

>>55313915
Warder gives you extra attacks of opportunity based on your intelligence (wis if you're an Ordained Defender)
That's 3pp though, so I don't know if you'll be able to use that

>>55313952
Zealot gets to do it based on CHA.

>>55313823
I never play casters that actually need verbal/somatics honestly.

Alright guys, college and unstable work scheduling has fucked 2 1/2 of my 3 games so I figure I might as well make the best use of my medically induced NEETness, give in and try giving /pfg/ a memeable game to shitpost some life back into these threads, and maybe fix my eternal salt that Pilgrimage to the Demonlands was a goddamn bamboozle. I have my notes for it but it's midnight here and I'm mildly intoxicated so I don't feel like typing out a novel here. I'll give the TLDR, see if anyone cares and maybe post the rest tomorrow.

>A few generations back the typical BBEG Archmage started the foretold ritual to end the world and let a new one be gloriously reborn from the ashes.
>Brave party of heroes stopped him but the ritual was too far gone to just vanish, heroes sacrificed themselves to basically lodging themselves into the rift and jamming it.
>Turns out they fucked up. The world is dying now because it was stopped mid-rebirth.
>Reality and Magic are breaking down, demons and terrible shit are falling through the cracks.
>Entire continent the battle was on is now a post apocalyptic tier wasteland.
>Last ditch solution is settled on, if the world dies like this it dies for good. So they're going to get anyone brave, stupid and capable enough to go to this magic blasted wasteland, kick out the support beam holding the ritual back, and hope the next world is less shit.

Game is probably going to be E6 or E8 with the standard gestalt / feat tax stuff all the cool kids games have. Lewds won't be a thing as the main interactions will be the PCs vs the world and most of the RP and interactions are going to be interparty for the most part, but if two PCs want to fuck at camp of whatever they can PM it out, I don't care about that.

The start and end points are fairly set. But anything in the middle is fair game. Some folks sperg out and call anything not pure sandbox a railroad so this is just a disclaimer right at the beginning.

>>55314716
>cont

The main themes and tone of the game are going to be the relationships of the PCs and the exploration of this alien and ruined land. Think something along the lines of Journey and Shadow of the Colossus, and at the risk of the meme, Dark Souls (in the sense of everything sucks and has gone to shit so you're going to fight your way to the end, burn it all down and hope the next world is better, then "lol Dark souls is hard XD")

>>55314716
Sounds like ass, but who the fuck cares what I think. Give it a go. Others are probably more interested than I am.

>>55314716
>E6 or E8
So you'll never be able to actually fight the demons and terrible shit because you'll never be a high enough level. Pass.

How would you go about making a level one character that's an ex paladin, but they "fell" for basically being a regular person that didn't live up to the code, not any blackguard shit?

>>55315461
Play a Fighter or a Cavalier, maybe a Warlord if you're using Path of War. Fluff yourself as being someone who retrained out of Paladin after falling.

>>55314716
The premise is alright. The level cap is on the low side, though E8 is acceptable. A focus on interparty relationships is selling it for me, honestly. A risky gambit, given the app circus. It has potential to be good. I'm just not sure how comfortable I am relying on the quality of applicants for such a large piece of the game.

>>55313871
>...
>*sigh*
>*unzips*

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>>55315461
What to you want to be able to do in combat?

>>55316181
Tank. Be that Invincible Bulwark that holds the line.

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>DM has a rule about wearing a hat when talking in character
>Playing Lawful Neutral character who's a decent guy and does stuff within reason
>Forget I was wearing my hat when I was jokingly said "Maybe we should set up a bear trap then when the guard comes through we all throw oil and alchemist fire at them"
>"Anon are you sure you want to do something so violent?"
>My face when I realized I was wearing my hat
>We set up multiple bear traps
>Throw acid and alchemist fire with some oil here and there on this one dude
>"Yah, this was probably kinda fucked up, like yah he was working for mercenary group that the BBEG hired, but he was probably an alright guy and we just put him in a shitty situation"

>>55316191
Ordained Defender Warder then.

>>55316237
Or Zealot.

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>>55316163
>https://joeshawcross.deviantart.com/gallery/

>>55316191
Warder

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/warder

Ordained Defender - Divine empowered tank
Zweihander Sentinel - Two-handed tank
Sworn Protector - Bodyguard

Say your GM wanted to have a contest of boasting and storytelling, Baron Munchaunsen-style.

Would you rather try and roleplay it out, or just trust in your character's ability to roll opposed Skill checks to try and win? Which would seem more rewarding to you?

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How do we make TWF not suck, cause I just want to play Gabranth

>>55316461
Role Play. you get to see for yourself what shit your players can come up with!

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>>55316481
Dervish Defender

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/warder/warder-archetypes/dervish-defender/

>>55316276
>How it feels to have Cut from the Air

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>>55316556
I'm guessing there is no arcane portion to this, but a decent TWF?

>>55316588
Take a few levels in Wizard.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/prestige-classes/bladecaster/

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>>55316604
I can work with that

>>55316613
You could also exchange disciplines to get access to the more supernatural disciplines, like Black Seraph, Cursed Razor, Elemental Flux, Shattered Mirror, or Sleeping Goddess.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/disciplines-and-maneuvers/

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>Find someone at work who also plays pathfinder
>I just got out of a 3.5 group
>Coworker mentions he's gonna be DM'ing a game
>Fuckin nice can I join?
>Sure no problem anon
>We start talkin about pathfinder and DnD for a few hours
>Time to go home
>Ask him if he wants my character before his next session for make it at the table so he can see my rolls
>You can go ahead and make your character anon, just remember we're using 3.5 rules
>3.5
>My face when

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Other worlds and planes exist without Pharasma to judge souls.

Who judges souls for these worlds and planes without Pharasma? Are the souls automatically sorted like in the 2e/3.X/5e Great Wheel cosmology?

Is Zen Archer a fun Monk archetype to play?

>>55317769
Many would say it's flat out the BEST Monk archetype to play.

>>55317782
Can you explain in more detail?

>>55317769
Depends. If you like being a fighter, sure. Because the only use for a Zen Archer monk is shooting arrows into people.

>>55317788
Basically, it Capitalizes on Archery, and has a lot of tricks to make being an Archer easier, as well as the fact that it suffers less from MAD than other monks because you can get Wisdom to hit fairly early on in Zen Monk progression.

>>55317808
Do you need much STR?

>>55317815
eh, you could get by with starting at 12-14, and then increasing it via belts later.

>>55317598
>worlds
Worlds still exist on the Material Plane, they go to Pharasma. Not just Golarion.
>plane
I assume they just take an alt route to the Boneyard, but are more likely to be snatched by something.

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>>55317444

What's a good feat build for a lancer's mount? So far combat reflexes seems good so I can get some AoOs and hopefully trip the enemy, but I find myself running out of ideas after that.

Dazzling display seems good but I'm not sure if I should be sticking around after every charge since I already have ride by attack.

>>55318082
build to have it be as hard to kill as possible. if your mount is dead, you can't spirited charge. a Mountless Lancer is a sad Lancer. don't be a sad Lancer.

>>55318107
So just toughness/dodge/save boosters then?

Where's the Discord at?

>>55318244
https://discord.gg/KPKWdyr

>Minor Gestalt looks kind of interesting
>Don't want to put up with a straight up "hentai" game
I might try this out myself some other time. Since this looks kinda interesting. Also wonder what sorta values one should subscribe stuff like Alchemist Bombs and kinetic blasts?

>Others: have a fucking bow and arrows moron, doesn't matter your Dex is shit and you don't have ranged feats, always have a bow and arrows
>Buy composite longbow Str 20
>Facing flying monster
>Pick longbow
>Fail 80% of arrows
>Those that hit deal almost no damage because the monster has DR that literally ignores 1d8+5 easily
Thanks, I guess

what are some good offense spells for early (5th level) sorcerer? I'm going to be the only magic user in the party, so I have to pull double duty with utility too. Right now I have:

0th
>detect magic
>dancing lights
>ray of frost (jolt if the gm will let me)
>message
>mage hand
>mending

1st (4)
>Alarm
>mage armor
>magic missile
>Burning hands
planning on getting floating disc later

2nd (2)
>aggressive thundercloud
>scorching ray

Any tips on discoveries and feats for alchemist, plan is going Grenadier/Toxicant then picking up Evangelist for some neat things. Other than that I'm not sure what to pick, GM said I could have Infusion for free and Potion Glutton would work on extracts

Can a wizard select arcane discoveries with his normal feats? I thought the answer was no, though he could select them in place of his bonus feats, but I've noticed there are some that require you to be at a level where you would gain a feat to take them, like 9th or 11th or even 1st.

>>55318954
"A wizard can learn an arcane discovery in place of a regular feat or wizard bonus feat."

>>55318808
Grease is a classic

>>55318842

I don't know much about toxicant, but bomb alchemists probably want Precise Bomb early. Frost Bomb is a good choice, as are Grease Bomb and Stink Bomb, and you definitely want Fast Bomb as early as you can get it. The standard ranged combat suite of feats do a lot to improve your bomb-throwing as well.

>>55318986
Thanks, I read the but somehow missed that part. If a wizard trades out all of their bonus feats for an archetype, does that mean they can't take arcane discoveries even with a regular feat because it's not a class feature for them anymore? And when they say "wizard bonus feat", does that also include Scribe Scroll at 1st level?

>>55319060
>If a wizard trades out all of their bonus feats for an archetype, does that mean they can't take arcane discoveries even with a regular feat because it's not a class feature for them anymore?
No, they can still tak them as noral feats

>And when they say "wizard bonus feat", does that also include Scribe Scroll at 1st level?
No, your bonus Scribe Scroll doesn't count as part of the "Bonus Feat" class ability, it counts as its own ability

>>55319035
Grenadier gets Precise Bomb for free, and Frost Bomb was one of the ones I was eyeing. Toxicant was for some flavor and for Noxious Bomb from Evangelist. Not really sure when to stop picking up bombs, but outside of them I can't really decide since most things I have looked at recommends stuff like simulacrum and other thingies that give me loads of dudes which isn't a playstyle I'm very fond of

>>55319463
Simple question.

Does an evangelist/exalted receive both boons?

>>55319540
I have no clue

>>55319679
>Certain prestige classes gain access to these boons at lower levels as a benefit of their prestige class. If you have no levels in one of these prestige classes, you gain the boons marked as exalted boons. If you later take levels in sentinel or evangelist, you lose access to the exalted boons and gain access to the new boons appropriate to your class.

I was researching and found this, so would that mean you'd get only one boon, but you can choose since you get both at the same time?

Also, if you don't make an obedience for a day, would you lose all your higher levels? A reverse to a lvl 5 whatever class you have?

>>55318683
I hate that meme aswel, people genuinelly believe that if you have a bow you suddenly become awesome at ranged even if your class and character aren't suited for that

>>55319761
Well GM isn't known for being that harsh should you forget to do stuff like that some times, but it looks like I would basicly turn back to lvl 5 sans HP and skill points I guess

How can I increase the realness of my shadow illusions? I want to make them as real as possible, maybe even too real if I can.

Are there any good unique longspears?

Playing paladin has ruined this system for me. Now everytime I play other class I just cry over how shitty my saves are.

Srly, I just hit 4th level yesterday with my Magus and seeing that I just have 7/5/5 almost made me puke.

>>55319806
Bow a shit,light crossbows is where it's at
>Never without a means to fight
>Every class can use it
>Damage isn't based on your stats so they're never not good
>Cheap and light to carry around
>Decent range

>>55320074
If we're talking about PF, only at first levels. And if you have proficiency on bows is stupid to pick a crossbow over a bow, also:
>takes a turn to reload, so if you have multiple attacks due iteratives, is shit
>shit when you have Str because 1d10<1d8+5

>>55320035
I know that feel, even though I never played a Paladin before, Dex/Wis is my fucking jam, so I cannot comprehend not having a really good Will save. There's lots of classes and shit I still want to play but I always end up obsessing over trying to pump up my Will save instead of whatever the class was supposed to be good at.

>Weakest save is Fort, I need to pick another trait
>Pick the Will boosting trait instead because fuck mindfuckery

>>55314749
Link me, nerd

>>55320074
>>55320101
I've considered, as a GM, allowing higher weight crossbows, just like bows have compound settings.

Though, xbows still have a higher feat requirement than bows, assuming you start with proficiency.

Though, one could work around the iterative problem with quickdraw, a special version of a haversack/efficient quiver, and a fuck ton of crossbows.

>>55320226
Make it so that a lower strenght modifier than the one required lenghtens the reload time even with feats that reduce it, but on the other hand have the bonus apply both to damage and to hit to reflect the much faster projectile speed
That way crossbows might still require a bigger feat investment than bows but allow for bigger payoffs

>>55320360
Maybe like, half or a quarter bonus to attack rolls, otherwise you'll end up with crossbows effectively adding both Str and Dex mods to attack rolls. Imagine a crossbow with the variable Str mod weapon enchant in the hands of a QUALITY martial if it added both. Would you be ready for +10 to attack rolls from ability mods at level 5?

>>55320399
Wait, is +10 to-hit at level 5 supposed to be high? With the people i play with that's usually on the low end of things
And well, that was the point, to have an alternative to bows that could be used by someone with a not so stellar DEX. Crossbows are fucking easy to use, so easy that they were banned by the pope for fear of every otherpeasant being able to kill fully armored nobles and warriors without much trouble

>>55320455
That's just from ability scores, Anon. In reality it would probably hit like, +20 total at that point

What are you building for Iron Lewds, anon?

>>55320574
I'm not. Lewd games aren't my cup of tea. I prefer to keep my sexual fetishes seperate from the other aspects of my life, especially my gaming. As far as I'm concerned, the less the world knows what I fap to at night, the better it is for me

>>55320531
It's really so bad to have someone good at killing shit do 1d10+5+[around 4 or 5 depending on money and feat investment]? Plus that would be only if someone spec'd a bit in xbows, so what's the issue? My suggestion was to make xbows a good fallback option for those specialized in other stuff or a good alternative to bows for anyone else other than a Bolt Ace
You seriously underestimated the bullshit that goes on in my group. At level 7 our barbarian could only miss on a nat 1 and shat out damage like no tomorrow, i wasn't kidding when i said +10 was low

>>55320574
Shilling already? I guess you gotta start early with the shorter app process.

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How are you going to include Toxic Masculinity into your games, /pfg/?

>>55320574
Why even bother building a character if lewd comes first?

>>55320723
"Women work better than men together" is my favourite meme to watch people parrot

>>55318567
That's pretty much where I'm at.

>>55320574
A time dragon.

>>55320631
It's mostly that it's kind of janky, and results in number inflation that wil probably have people screaming their lungs out about "crossbows OP". Bonuses to attack rolls on ranged weapons are worth any amount of gold, and this in particular appears to become pretty easy to break if any effort is put into it. I do like the idea of it at least.

Also:
>Barbarian only missing on nat 1 and shat out damage like no tomorrow
>I wasn't kidding when I said +10 was low
>A Barbarian doing fuckloads of damage is "bullshit", or in any way a surprise

I already said that the attack roll would probably total out to more like +20~ after adding in other shit and factoring deadly aim, and that's not even counting something like outside buffs.

>>55320808
>Women
>Cooperating

There's so much sneaky backstabbing social bullshit in groups of women that it's painful to watch. Meanwhile, men make such feats of jolly cooperation in movies about struggling together that women just don't understand.

>>55320723
>How are you going to include Toxic Masculinity into your games, /pfg/?

Doesn't Ruins of Azlant have a "toxic male" in the party?

>>55320808
>>55320935
Where did this meme originate, anyway? Was it the result of delusional feminine men who found themselves the leader or key person in a group of women who gave him a false sense of cooperation and camaraderie?

>>55320963
Just make a grippli with some kind of poison, and fluff it as toxins. Boom.

>>55320986
(((Feminists)))

>>55320963
>Self-absorbed fucking white male who is explicitly described as a secondary antagonist
>Old white male
>Bitter middle-aged white male who is the heterosexual life partner of a fabulously gay Erastil cleric (also white)
>Disgusting blacksmith described as being "very masculine" and thus "very rude and unbearable."

There you go, every single male character in Ruins of Azlant.

>>55320360
Certainly, the lengthen reload time was a consideration. And part of why I haven't put it into my house rules, as I haven't sat down and decided how many steps compared to bonus.

Though, since Comp.Bows don't add to their to Hit, I don't feel like it would be a great idea to add higher-weight xbows rating to hit.

>>55321032
THEY'RE
ALL FUCKIN'
WHITE...
MALES!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE NEED MORE DIVERSITY HERE PRONTO REPLACE THEM ALL WITH BROWN PEOPLE!

How do I Awaken My Masters in Pathfinder?

>>55321406
Stone to Flesh

>>55307187
Oh, that's a thing of beauty.

>>55320723
>Implying I'm not playing a character who is toxic masculinity personified.

Is it possible to concentrate as a move action on a Totem from the War Sphere using the Easy Focus boon, then attack with a Blast from the Destruction Sphere? Apparently my GM is telling me that I can't cast a spell while concentrating, and I can't find anything from the Spheres of Power book regarding this.

>>55320854
I'd like to know more.

>>55317769
It's a gun turret, you're very good at putting out damage but that's all you do.

>>55316276
JoJo reference?

>>55320574
I made a character just to experiment with the "build a class" thing they have going on with minor gestalting a commoner. Not going to apply, since constant hentai stuff at the forefront doesn't sound fun.

I don't like lewd, but I can handle the idea of shit happening in the background. What group doesn't have it's share of dirty jokes and such after all? What I don't get is why make a game that's more or less "porn first"? Why not just use porn or just cut the pretense of having mechanics and just type fuck somebody?

>>55320723
I am actually thinking of playing a half-orc orphan brought up in a sanctuary devoted to Shelyn, leaving to adventure as they learn the true circumstance of their birth. And as you might expect of a first generation half-orc, it involves the despoling of maidens in said sanctuary, by roving marauders. Mom dies in child birth, bla bla bla, obvious life goal being finding the dad, getting some answers, and either redeeming them in some way or making said deadbeat beaten dead.

What do you think /pfg/, think it'll make for a good story? He or she? Subvert the obvious expectation by making the mom the orc?

>>55305976
Anyone?

>>55321098
>>>/pol/

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>55323192
Given how Orc's age, there's a good change your dad has kicked the bucket by the time your Half-Orc is of adventuring age.

>>55323223
Didn't think of that, but just so happens the campaign takes place in a city where aging is cured, resulting in a massive burgeoning metropolis.

Exactly where a successful marauder would retire.

>>55323036
You can cast other spells while concentrating, but you can't concentrate on more than one spell at a time.

>>55323394
Is there a source for this? My GM won't believe me without a source.

>>55323464
http://www.dropdeadstudios.com/spheres-of-power-eratta/

"Basics: There should be a line stating that, unlike with vancian magic, it is possible to cast a sphere ability while already concentrating on another, so long as the concentration and the casting use different actions."

>>55318567
Alchemist bombs would probably be 3 to line up with rogue sneak attack. Kinetic blasts would be similar to the Avowed stuff Argentum posted.

>>55323574
Thank you very much, anon.

>>55323603
That's about what I had. For Alchemist Bombs. Here's what I got so far
>Bomber-3 Points-You gain the alchemist's Bomb class feature and a Discovery every 4 levels
>Best Friends- 3 Points- You gain the Summoner's Eiodolan as a summoner of your level and Life Link class features. Gain Evolution points as a Summoner.
>Haunted- 3 Points- You gain the Spirutiualists Phantom as a spirtulist of your level and the Etheric Tether Ability
Also one I'm not so sure about.
>
Ki Mystic- 4 Points- Obtain the Sage's Ki Pool, Chi Gong Class Feature, and select a single Esoteric Training Package. Starting at the second and every 4 levels afterwards you may select a single Esotery that you qualify for.

Issue with the sage and kineticist is that many of their class features are so tightly linked together that I'm not sure how to divy it up. Especially in the sage's case where a half the class features are literally non-funtional without each other.

I weighted Ki Mystic against Ki Soul and Hedgewitch Traditons, but I still feel like 4 points for all that still feels a smidge bit cheap.

>tfw have DMing questions in need of advice
>can't ask because I DM a pfg campaign and my players all lurk

what games are recruiting right now?

My DM is allowing me to make a car in his campaign.

What's the best way to go full on Initial D in PF using only 1st party stuff?

I'm already planning on having a radio using ghost sound and loading it up with tons of super eurobeat music.

Also, what car should I base it on?

>>55324428
Just change the names and genders

Something that bugs me, humans are often viewed as this race thats just utterly unremarkable in general, or even inferior to all the other demihuman races, yet I find it odd that in DnD, they are always a superior choice in general

Sometimes I want to live out the RP story of humans prevailing against all odds against it despite all this flaws and all that but knowing how they are superior in terms of mechanics makes me question that fantasy a bit

>>55324428
Yeah, because there are no other places to discuss Pathfinder, other than /pfg/

>Party planned to rob the town because they heard that the mayor took over with brute force
>From talking to townsfolk, they've learned that the mayor is actually doing a better job than the last guy
>Now they're trying to figure out how to establish a rapport with him
If this was my old group, they wouldn't have even bothered to stop and ask the townsfolk about the mayor.

>>55324732
They're generally viewed as the superior choice because they get an additional feat.

Meaning they get 10% more feats than another race running the same class. And they get it at level 1, meaning they have 50-100% more feats than another race.

Yeah, the others have special abilities to try to make up for it, but they can generally be replicated/replaced with gear eventually, but very little RAW gives access to extra feats than you have by default. (Primary example being Metamagic Rods.)

So, they bring builds online faster, and have a bit more flexibility earlier to expand into other options.

>>55324889
And, if we look at 3.5, the get 8 to everyone elses' 7 feats.

>>55324889
Yeah I know that part, its mainly that it seems strange for humans to be treated as utterly unremarkable or inferior by elves, dwarves, etc in a number of settings when mechanically they are definitely stronger and all that

As for me, I often like trying to RP a human as somebody who triumphs in spite of all the flaws and such despite all this limitation but the imagination is shattered a bit because I recognize they are superior mechanically

>>55324858
Always wondered how many problems you solve if you bothered to ask first in a typical Dnd/PF game

>>55324950
Since they bothered to actually ask around town, they now know of a few jobs they could do to help the town and gain some allies.

My last group would have just killed the town, looted it and moved along.

Ok, so my guys got KO-ed by a mob of monsters. Can you guys think of some reasons for:

- Monsters capturing them instead of killing or eating them
- If PCs get captured, they'll be somewhat abused one way or the others
- PCs released without outside help (I'm pretty sure they'll have to metal gear out of the monster's den, but can there be any other way?)

>>55323176
Probably wants to test their Eros Unleashed homebrew.

>>55324997
Depends on the monster, what did they go down to?

>>55320574
>Iron Lewds
What is Iron Lewds? Iron Gods you mean?

>>55324950
It isn't really that they're unremarkable, it's that they're the baseline from which all else deviates statistically.

Elves view humans as inferior, because they're haughty, long-lived assholes. And stereotypically either nature fetishists or Tolkien style fading elder civilization.
Dwarves are stereotypically more like an elder brother to humans.

>>55324997
>- Monsters capturing them instead of killing or eating them
Slaves to use or sell, ransom, they want to recruit, they're keeping him for "later" where later is unspecified amount of time.

>>55325047
Iron God's running off "hentai logic".

>>55325026
Greenskins... no, literally, Orcs and Goblins + a troll.

>>55325084
So "Hey character, let me succ dicc. Oh hey a monster from beyond time and space who just kinda eats brains. Let me succ tentadicc. Oh hey enemy. Let me succ dicc. Oh hey literally anything happening or anybody appearing. Let me succ dicc because we, and by extension the players, are mentally retarded and addicted to carnal pleasures so much that we make actual fucking sex addicts look chaste"?

>>55325084
Really? I thought that AP was a scifi + Terminator stuff. Weird...

>>55324997
Getting dragged off to be fed to as of yet unborn/unhatched young usually works, but it's hard to say with zero details.

>>55325141
Now you get it.

>>55325142
It is. They're just running it with a pornographic spin.
>>55325141
No. It's just gonna be this.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzO2mi4uHAs

>>55325142
Yeah, IG is the last AP one should turn into lewds because it doesn't even have the excuse of tentacle monsters that Strange Aeons, but like rule 34's Mental health clause states: Retards will make everything into porn.

>>55325174
So how many of the players get off from getting their genitals needled, laser'd and/or sawed off? Have you even seen what the robots look like? Has the moron running the game actually seen the robots?

>>55325153
A band of Adventurers went out to purge a mob of greenskins that's been doing some shits to local villages. Well, failed Perc check real bad, got ambushed, and few but significant bad dice rolls. Boom.

>>55325197
>So how many of the players get off from getting their genitals needled, laser'd and/or sawed off?
My chan's daily life is a thing. But you over esitmate peole, there are people who get off to Transformers and Jet Girls.

More likely, given the GM, all the robots are gonna be like 2B or Haydee.

>>55325226
>Tfw no 2B to kill me by sitting on my face

>>55325226
But in both of those cases the robot part is just exoticism while most of the robotic features are just superficial as they just look like humanoids in funny costumes and body paint. And 2B is a fucking robot in name only for fuck's sake. I still don't why people find Haydee attractive, she is so misproportioned that you'd think the guy who modeled her has never seen a human in his life and only had one described to him.

But the worst part is that the porn part is probably just to hide the fact that the guy probably can't run a game normally, which is a fucking desecration to Iron Gods, arguably the best AP Paizo has put out and probably one of the three that are actually worth defending when somebody cries about Paizo.

Each to their own and I hope they have fun if the game actually gets the green since it's not going to change my life in anyway aside from superficial annoyance and salt, but still.

>>55324950
>Always wondered how many problems you solve if you bothered to ask first in a typical Dnd/PF game
iktf, especially since we have a 'that guy' style player in the party
>hags have someone we need captive
>have to go fetch 3 artifacts
>start the second leg
>run into a sphinx
>almost immediately, that guy says "If you say any riddles I'll kill you."
>sphinx attacks
>that guy literally shoots her into outer space with magic
>wizard has to get her back
>almost blow the entire quest because of that guy
gif related, basketball=progress

>>55325396
>I still don't why people find Haydee attractive,
> she is so misproportioned that you'd think the guy who modeled her has never seen a human in his life and only had one described to him.

The same reason why people find Jessica Rabbit attractive.

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>>55325441
>and then I forget the gif

>>55325396
It's somewhat difficult to determine his GMing skill, since his other games have died from player-hemorrhaging and thus don't have a lot of sessions to back them up.

>>55325396
>I still don't why people find Haydee attractive, she is so misproportioned that you'd think the guy who modeled her has never seen a human in his life
Anon, exaggeration of secondary sexual characteristics is a common thing, and as been the whole basis of entire mediums of art and porn. Hell, its part of the premise that cartoons and anime are based off of.

I'm sorry, but you appear to have autism. I don't mean that in the typical 4chan way, I mean I think you legit have some form of aspergers

>>55325454
>The same reason why people find Jessica Rabbit attractive.
I did when I was 13, not now though.

>>55325396
Oh, no, there are gonna be straight up robots with attachments. I don't do THICC, so no haydee clones, but Androids will definitely be 2B/9S types.

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>>55325396
>>55325514
Porn, porn never change

>>55325563
>I don't do thicc
>But there's 2B
:thinking:

>>55325576
The correct meme is :2bornot2b: for that one.

And 2B isn't THICC, she's just well proportioned. THICC is a whole different ball game, which Haydee hit on.

>>55302695
My oracle/summoner hit level 6 and unlocked SM3, now I can throw wolverines at people

I'm making a gnome wizard for an upcoming Hell's Vengeance campaign my IRL group wants to start. Which would be better, DEX 14 and CON 16 or DEX 16 and CON 12? I normally never make casters with less than 14 CON and so I'm afraid my wizard will be too squishy with only 12, but starting with 16 DEX sounds mighty tempting for that extra init and AC, plus I'll be falling back on a crossbow when I run out of spells at low levels. I can use my favored class bonus for HP and basically cancel out the CON loss as far as my HP total is concerned, but I'm still not sure. I think that once the party reaches higher levels the lower CON will become less of a concern, but I will have to actually survive that long first.

>>55325576
>9S

>>55325514
If you are supposed to be insulting, it usually should come in an insulting manner or would you rather explain how and why you come to the conclusion that having an opinion and not articulating it like I was trying to impress my English teacher is sufficient proof of one's mental health?

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>>55325563
I respect you not hiding behind words like lewd, and hope you find players that want to fap with you. You came out and said exactly what your game is about. I have no interest in that sort of thing, but I appreciate your honesty.

>>55325650
I would say dex because of the init and crossbow damage. They can't hit you if they're dead

>>55325622
>And 2B isn't THICC, she's just well proportioned. THICC is a whole different ball game,
No it isn't. Thicc was originally a phrase used by African Americans to refer you a chick having wide hips and a nice ass. All thicc means is "has wide hips and a plump ass". The current definition occured when fatfags attempted to reappropriate it for their own use to try and justify themselves and their insecurity, so they memed it super hard until people forgot what it originally meant because

>>55325836
Then fair enough, my man. 2B is Thicc by the old definition, and I don't do the new definition!

>>55325834
I don't think I'll be dropping guys in one round at the start of the game, when I'm just plinking at them with a crossbow and only have a few spells/day to my name. BUt yeah, DEX seems like it will be the stronger option in the long run, so I just need to stay alive in the mean time. And the difference between 14 and 12 CON at level 1 is just going to be a single hit point, so the point of AC I would get from boosting my DEX will probably be more valuable at that stage of the game anyway.

>completely forgetting to use Bodyguard in the last fight when it likely would've helped prevent people from getting shanked

How does Bodyguard WORK? Does it only proc once per attack?

>>55325836
Why do white people love to steal black culture so much?

>>55325396
>Argentum probably can't run a game normally
[citation needed]

>>55326002
Once per attack, spending your AoO.

"If you succeed, your friend gains either a +2 bonus on his next attack roll against that opponent or a +2 bonus to AC against that opponent’s next attack (your choice), as long as that attack comes before the beginning of your next turn."

>>55326075
Let's not have this conversation.

>>55326075
Because white people own this flippity floppity floop people call Earth and everything in it belongs to us.

For a more serious answer because let's humor your baiting ass: It's not stealing, it's cultural adaptation, something every single culture ever has always done since the dawn of human history. It's how cultures evolve.

>>55326104
If I'm a Zealot, does it apply my Zeal bonus?

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>>55325895
Just remember, Thicc is all about the pelvic basin. While the exaggerations also count as thicc, it is still a sliding gradient that will slide from "realistic" to "Cartoon Mom"

>>55326075
Because rap music, prison culture, and the anti-disestablishment mindset of the 90s made it popular, despite the fact that neither the whites nor the blacks even remember the basic origins and foundations of what caused modern African American culture to be born, instead making it into the idolization of ignorance, contention, and insular tribalism that ended up denigrating everything that the original Civil Rights leaders stood for

>>55326143
It seems it does, yes.

"In addition, when he uses the Aid Another action to grant an ally a bonus on a skill check or to their AC, he adds the intensity of his zeal to the bonus granted."

"When an adjacent ally is attacked, you may use an attack of opportunity to attempt the aid another action to improve your ally’s AC"

>>55326233
>instead making it into the idolization of ignorance, contention, and insular tribalism that ended up denigrating everything that the original Civil Rights leaders stood for

H-Hey, at least we got fun music to rot our brains with as the rest of the world surpasses us in everything!

>>55326240
Sounds rad, means my allies are gonna get a LOT of benefit out of standing beside me.

>>55325836
>Language doesn't evolve to serve the people using it

Get a load of this guy.

>>55326233
You.

I like you.

Can I subscribe to your newsletter?

>>55326310
Don't got one, nor do I have the writing skills, socio-political savvy, new awareness, or the patience to ever do as such. Besides, I prefer to spend my time innawoods, plants and wildlife tend to be much more rational and understandable than people

>>55326308
>spot the fatfag

>>55326366
Fatfags are the only people who believe in the evolution of language?

>>55326366
M8, I'm saying that bitching about lingual evolution is a mug's game. Language is how people use it. You can say what something USED to mean, but if people are using it to mean a certain thing, and you understand what they mean when they say it, then the language is serving its purpose of communication.

Language changes to suit whims of the people using it, s'how it's been for fucking ever.

People might even chortle about people saying 'ATM machine', but most people don't register ATM as being an acronym anymore. It's just a word.

Lingual evolution.

>>55326424
Lingual evolution is a conspiracy by Big Fat to normalize the word thicc, obviously.

>>55326424
Language is a meme.

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>>55326735
Don't get me started on free will or religion, Jack.

>>55326759
Oh, what was that? Sorry, I was busy watching your goons play with a cat.

Stop arguing about dumb shit.

Is there a good way to build a sort of Rogue/Cleric mixture? Whether through archetypes or multiclassing or prestige?

>>55326837
Inquisitor. What you want is a Sanctified Slayer Inquisitor, but with prepared casting.

>>55326837
Cleric with the rogue VMC, pick a god that let's you swing two-handed weapons and have fun dealing hit dice with your battleaxe while you buff yourself with plenty of spells and evade the shit out of people who can't flank you.

>>55326849
I always felt Inquisitor spread it self too thin, it had too many weak features that didn't add up to much. Kind of the same problem as a Bard but in different ways. Does the archetype fix that?

>>55326864
You're suggesting a 50/50 multiclass?

>>55326914
Variant Multiclass. You'd give up some feats for rogue class features.

>>55326914
>I always felt Inquisitor spread it self too thin

The only thing I think could probably have made the class better is if it had been a talent class, and if it didn't force the teamwork feats on you. Other than that, I just like Sanctified Slayer getting Study as opposed to to Judgement, personal preference.

>>55326914
VMC drops half of your feats for class features from another class. The rogue one is decent enough as far as they go. It's usually reserved for builds that are not based around too many feats or with classes that give you plenty bonus feats.

Harvesting poison components from felled beasts requires a Handle Animal or Craft (Alchemy) check?
Also what's the best way to determine the craft DC and market price of it?