>It's illegal to carry a sword, axe, or anything bigger

>>55266692
Be a spellcaster

>>55266692
a proper dagger can still mess someone up bad

or get a weighted cane

>>55266694

One-scroll limit.

>>55266692
Whatever I want. I'm the GM.

>>55266692
Option 1:
I am a mage and laugh because martials suck

Option 2:
I carry about 25 daggers

Option 3:
Platearmor and a walking staff

Daggers are still great, and become proficient in unarmed combat and with weapons of opportunity

>>55266692
Carry a dagger.

>>55266692
Since the bar seems to be only set for melee weapons, I'll leave my sword at the checkstop gate and keep myself armed with a bow

>>55266692
Carry a large amount of guns.

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>>55266692
You already know.

>>55266692
Be a wizard. Problem solved.

>>55266729
Who the hell needs scrolls?

>>55266742
>Platearmor and a walking staff
you would just walk around everywhere in full plate? really? even on a hot day?

let me guess, you carry a shield on your back too

>>55266692
Strangle cityguards with scarfs

Be like Sun Wukong and have shrinkable weapons.

>>55266770
Make sure you drink enough water and this isn't a problem.

>>55266692
Get a license for my sword.

>>55266692
Carry a few knives (as a nine fingered man once said, you can never have too many knives), a sturdy stick and seek lodgings outside the walls most of the time.

Honestly big knives are fine for most of the things you're likely to want to do in town, and if they're not then you're probably not obeying ANY laws so that's fine too.

Absolute worst, you may have to buy another sword or something, but unless it's a legendary relic or custom-made there's no reason to be particularly attached to your weapon, save for it it's a character quirk or whatever. And even then, that's a free sidequest

>>55266692
Carry a dagger. Generally speaking, the only people who would be carrying anything more would be the town guard, and if they're your enemy, you have much larger problems in the first place.

>>55266692
Don't go into the cities with these laws.
They can solve their own problems, no helping hands from adventurers.

>>55266692
>anything bigger than a dagger
Is is a fairy setting?
Or do people sit on the floor, drink from thimbles and build their houses from Popsicle sticks and tiny bricks?

>>55266692
Fuck em. My character has mastered literally every weapon, form of combat, and armor and has killed scores of maneating monsters. You think he really gives a single shit?

>>55266799
What? I know in games temperature doesn't really matter (and shouldn't really) unless we're talking the most extreme weather conditions and/or climate possible, but you can't just drink water in reality and suddenly the sun doesn't affect you. You're wearing metal. Hot metal isn't fun to wear. You're also almost certainly wearing a gambeson underneath and even more clothes under that. If you want armor that you can wear for most of a day then you are usually stuck with a breastplate or some kind of half-plate. Or you could just don your armor when you have a real reason to expect a fight like a normal person.

>>55266692
Carry weapon too big, too heavy and too long to be called a sword. Something more like a slab of iron

>>55266692
Start my own nation, where the right of people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

>>55266692

Carry a messer.

"No constable, this is a utility knife, note the handle."

>>55266848
>ever taking off your armor
Donning rules are shit and I'm not being penalized anyway

>>55266692

>Assuming Pathfinder

>Unchained rogue, dagger specialist

>Underhanded for max on first attack in a combat if we get the drop on them

>Spec towards shadow dancer, so stealth is god-tier anyways.

>Noswordsnoproblem.png

Play a caster, rogue, or guy so rich he can get around these rules like in every society.

If we're talking D&D the DM here obviously hates martials.

>>55266890

Fucking German trolls. Finding that out had me chuckling for weeks.

>>55266865
>sword? Nay, I am but a humble valet and this is merely my heavy-duty ironing board

>>55266899
Yeah, I'm not saying you should play like that or with those rules as standard. As I wrote, only the most extreme weather conditions and/or climate should really affect the PCs. Since, you know, they are the heroes of the story and heroes can tank shit like a snowstorm on willpower alone. Unless the players try to walk on top of snow that is twice as tall as they are then I'm going to need some dice rolling.

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>>55266692
MY BODY IS ALREADY A WEAPON

>>55266692
"Surely you wouldn't part an old man of his... giant metal walking stick?"

Probably invest in some charisma...

>>55266692
A dagger is more dangerous than an arming sword or pole-arm in a city.

>>55266692
Magic Greatsword of Growing and Shrinking

Also carry a weapon. ;D

>>55266692
Be a caster, laugh at stupid rules only good for making life hard for pack-mules and meat-shields.

>>55266899
>I'm not being penalized anyway
Like hell you're not - enjoy those CHA penalties and CON checks (admittedly the latter should mostly be a formality rather than a risk unless the going is really tough), the additional wear on your armour, the street urchins heralding the arrival of Lord Stink to all and sundry, and, of course, the detailed descriptions of just how sweaty and uncomfortable you're getting.

>>55266961
How come those are stupid, carrying smaller weapons will make them better pack mules and meat shields, if anything.

>>55266848
>You're wearing metal.
Most of which isn't in contact with the skin.
>Hot metal isn't fun to wear.
Fun isn't a necessity, for one.
>You're also almost certainly wearing a gambeson underneath and even more clothes under that.
A thin aketon, actually. A full suit of plate of any decent thickness should be worn with very little cloth, unlike mail that should be worn over an aketon and then under a thick gambeson.
>If you want armor that you can wear for most of a day then you are usually stuck with a breastplate or some kind of half-plate
>but you can't just drink water in reality and suddenly the sun doesn't affect you.
How do you think people wearing some of the heaviest armour in sweltering heat for extended periods survived? It's unpleasant, but you deal with it and make sure to drink more. And hope that you'll get to sleep and take your armour off instead of staying awake in the suddenly cold night as all the sweat accumulated freezes your testicles off.

>>55266692
Buy up all the land immediately surrounding the city limits, rent it by the hour as "wood-chopping zones". Sell pre-chopped wood to city dwellers who don't have time to ride into the country and do it themselves.

Then move to a different city because with this retarded law carpentry is now forbidden.

Wearing full plate all the time is retarded, but we allow it, because chainmail bikinis and suspension of disbelief.

>>55267016
Ironically isn't this a case where literally buying and selling faggots is a great plan?

>>55266987
>Most of which isn't in contact with the skin.
Still hot as shit.
>Fun isn't a necessity, for one.
A figure of speech
>A thin aketon, actually. A full suit of plate of any decent thickness should be worn with very little cloth, unlike mail that should be worn over an aketon and then under a thick gambeson.
If thin, enjoy your sores. If not, it's still a full body garment shut in a suit of metal
>How do you think people wearing some of the heaviest armour in sweltering heat for extended periods survived?
Protip; They didn't wear armour for any more time than they absolutely need to.

>>55267044
Great use of the word "faggot" anon.

>>55266987
>Most of which isn't in contact with the skin.
>A thin aketon, actually. A full suit of plate of any decent thickness should be worn with very little cloth, unlike mail that should be worn over an aketon and then under a thick gambeson.

Doesn't have to be. The metal heats up and the heat transfers onto the aketon (isn't aketon just another word for a gambeson that you wear under plate?). You're still wearing layers and layers trap hot air between them warming you up. It might not be a winter coat, but it is still a bit much to be wearing while strolling around town.

>Fun isn't a necessity, for one.
Even if you are visiting the town's tavern for drinks or the merchant to drop off your loot? You're hanging around town, not a battlefield. Unless you expect a fight with some kind of underground cult or thieves guild.

>How do you think people wearing some of the heaviest armour in sweltering heat for extended periods survived?
Why do modern soldiers regularly leave behind critical parts of their own armor behind even when they expect a fight? Armor is bothersome to wear. Your standard Lvl 3 Fighter can wear his armor all day, but your average joe in-game and in real life isn't going to want to do the same. Even if they did, they might be putting themselves in more danger by exhausting themselves waling around town in full plate before they even know a fight is about to start.

Like >>55267016 pointed out, laws like this would impact certain laborers and craftsmen, meaning there must be some system for exceptions or licenses. Find out what the specifics of the law are and get a weapon that's just outside them if you truly need one.

>>55267044
Not only that the city has desperate shortage of faggots but OP can't help with it

Any city with that kind of rule would have exceptions. I would imagine the guards would hold your weapons and armor for you to retrieve once you left, up to the DM then to decide how trust worthy these strangers were with them. Could even have a minor plot where you kick in the guard barracks to get back your stolen magic weapon for a more aggressive route, or some subterfuge for the more pacifist option.

>>55266692
Carry a large, long hafted blade and several large spikes with holes in one end, when confronted by the guards I explain that I am a surgeon for giants and dragons and this is my scalpel and suture kit.

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>>55266692
>Well th' smith told me it was a knife when 'e sold it tah me.
>Is got one edge n' everythin'. Not like a proppa sword.

>>55266890
>>55267130
>>55267132
What if the guards are competent and non-retarded, for a change? Or is a trope that is almost never subverted?

>>55266692
Kriegmesser

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>>55267181
The joke is that the Messer doesn't meet the legal definition of a sword. If you wanted to outlaw the Messer you'd screw over every other tradesman who needed a blade to do work in your city.

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Detatch a spear's head and put it on the messy end of a mop or broom, carry a couple of pic related, and have a work hammer on the inside of a coat.

Perfectly legal, sir. Don't mind me.

>>55266692
Carry a kriegmesser

>>55267208
I mean you could just ban blades longer than the largest blade needed for trades work.

>>55267208
OP's post said anything bigger than a dagger, and a Messer is evidently bigger. The Messer took advantage of certain legal loopholes, which are not necessarily present. Look at the modern definitions, for examle.

>>55266692
This is simple. Be a pugalist.

>>55266692
I have this obsesión in every game that allows me to do it, be capable of unarmed combat, and not only capable but actually decent at it. So yeah, I always invest in unarmed combat or similar in D&D and in other games I buy martial arts, etc

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No problem, officer

>>55266692
>He can't summon his weapon as a free action or swift action as long as said weapon is at least in the same plane
Already had that problem, it wasn't a problem

>>55266692
You cannot separate a samurai's sword from his person, unless you think removing his soul is also an option.

He has right given by the daimyo and shogun to carry his blade, no matter the place nor the company he is to keep.

If he draws the blade, it is because he must, and he will only do so if his life or his honor is at stake.

If these matters cannot be attended to, he will not enter the city, he will wait outside until the business within is concluded, but he will also never take up his arms to help the city or kingdom that would not let him bear them, as they have no respect for his weapon, he shall not respect their need for it.

>>55266966
By RAW none of those things happen. You can write your houserules to make martials even shittier than they already are, but don't be surprised when no-one will play on in your games.

>>55267119
A tragedy, truly

>>55267280
Oh look, a weeb who doesn't even know how Feudal Japan worked, color me impressed.

>>55266692
If you outlaw swords then only outlaws will have swords.

>>55267280
Your character seems like one I'd make sure my hostiles worked just that little bit harder to knock off.

>>55266692
>>It's illegal to carry a sword, axe, or anything bigger than a dagger inside cities in most kingdoms in the setting.
>What do you do?


Monk
>Laugh and hand them even that rusty dagger i carry arround for show.

Sorcerrer
>Laugh and enter as lightning sparks on my fingertips.

Bard
>Sing in laughter because most of my spells only require me to talk.

Cleric
>Bless them for doing their work and enter while carying my divine amulet arround my neck.

Paladin
>''You dare stop a knight of the crown lowly peasant?''

Wizard
>... Don't even talk to the guard and just teleport inside like normally.

Druid
>Laughing housecats.png

Warlock
>... Continue to snicker and chat with my patron on which people i should sacrifice to it.

Barbarian
>In case of Dex barbarian just shrug and enter with my dagger.
>In case of Str barbarian... just hope i got Tavern brawler i guess?

Ranger
>Start carving hobo siginals into the wooden constructs across the city.

Rogue
>Prepare to contact the local thieves guild to start smuglling weaponry in my bag of holding.

Fighter
>Dex based... Well at least i'm not completely useless.
>Str based... ''Can i carry my buckler as well?''

>>55267342
>Monk
>>Laugh and hand them even that rusty dagger i carry arround for show.
then dive in the the deep depression that is to be a monk and realize that even with this advantage, you will still fail at everything

>>55266692
Parrying dagger with combination of knucklebow guard and sword catcher tines for off hand.
Multistrand chain belt with large ornate quick release buckle.

>>55266765
Bows probably need to be unstrung aswell

>>55267073
Get out

>>55267321
I am Japanese though. Dad's from Fukuoka.

>>55267339
Ok.

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>>55266692
They can't take my fists, so they can't stop me

>>55267362
>then dive in the the deep depression that is to be a monk and realize that even with this advantage, you will still fail at everything

Only failures don't know how to utilize monk features.
>Highspeed chases across the city.
>Don't give shit about walls and falling from the highest towers in town.
>Laugh at the city guard and their shitty archers while you fling their arrows back at them.
>Run up to their spellcaster as you pass every single save of their spells and then anally rape them.

>Assassinations by touching someone as an Open hand monk, don't forget to knock people of roofs as well.
>Teleport and troll people with illusions if you are a Shadow monk.
>Be a pretty much unbeatable tank in while you sap the lifeforce of others as a Long death monk.
>Blast everything as a Sun-soul monk.

The only official 5e Monk archetype that sucks is the 4 elements one.

>>55267280
>If he draws the blade, it is because he must, and he will only do so if his life or his honor is at stake.
>He has right given by the daimyo and shogun to carry his blade, no matter the place nor the company he is to keep.

You know, change this around into the context of a warrior class who's above all the other people, and you get a situation where you have all these maniacs running around with the legal power to murder and openly wielding weapons while nobody else can. Like gangs or samurai mafia or something.

>>55266692
I'd take a coustille dagger. Failing that, a trained fighter would know unarmed combat as well.

>>55267362
Nah, 5e monks and PF Unchained Monks are pretty good.

>>55267421
That's basically what they were.

Right, I'll let the other members of the party go into to town to rendevous with the contact, I'll watch the the camp. If I'm signalled I'll climb over the walls come night.

>>55267421
Same goes for the police. The state gives them the right to use weapons/force that normal people aren't allowed to use (in most cases) but may only use it in certain circumstances.
Some cops abuse this power, good thing we have videocameras to hold them accountable

>>55266692

Is the restriction on length or weight? A functional dagger is reasonably long but a jeweled rapier is usually ok. Between a decent rapier, a dagger with some engraving, and a knife in your boot for security that's a bit tighter you can usually handle a light scratch up with some street brawlers or some local thugs anyway. Keep some metal bracers under your shirt sleeves and a thick vest with some metal sewn into it and you're good to walk into town looking like a gentleman, if a scruffy one.

If security is that tight though, a cane with a good lump of iron on the end(in the shape of an eagle or a wolf or whatever is in style) will have a similar effect in a pinch. Just make sure it has a nice patina and polish it up and nobody will care overmuch.

If you need to walk into a city heavily armed like that, you're not going to be checking with the guards anyway. You're either above them or charging into them.

>>55267490

A titled warror's chief duty out of wartime is to ensure peace. Which is a fancy way of saying pull out a sword if someone has funny ideas about tax exemptions.

If they have a one foot dagger and you have a three foot sword the fight is going to go your way before you even get into who's the one wearing a curiass and has two guys with the same backing you up.

>>55267421
That is 100% what went down. They would cut people up for fuck all reason. Like literally because someone looked at them funny.

>>55266692
I take my grandfather's dagger in.

Grandfather was a storm giant. This is his dagger. Any questions?

>>55267362
Maybe if you play bad systems

>>55266692
the human rectum is nightmarishly elastic

>>55267520
Did you reply to me by accident?

>>55267402
Well, you have no fucking idea of your own culture, which is sad, unless you're playing a "meme" samurai and not a realistic one.

>>55266692

It's a big dagger.

>Give up my ornamental longsword
>I can still slash things just as well with my bare hands

If I think about it a little, my hexblade warlock sounds like the kind of cheesy character a 14 year old would make.

>>55267418
>while you fling their arrows back at them.
>plural
kek
>>55267444
Actually Umonk is slightly worse than archetyped PHB monk, that shows you how good are archetypes and the fack that Umonk couldn't archetype for almost a year (and the ones he can now are meh as fuck) is a detriment
You're right that Umonk>>>>PHB Monk, but Archetyped PHB monk > Umonk

I play a lot of monks, is my fav class

>>55267596
the guards confiscate it none the less and tell you, you may present your argument to the arbiter at the next available appointment in 4-6 months.
Enjoy your stay

>>55267609
>all the good archetypes are already folded into UMonk
Uh huh.

>>55267402
How dishonarbu that you don't know your history then

>>55267362
Maybe hes not playing 3.x, and is instead playing something GOOD?

>>55267418
>Mentions high levels
Why are you forced to give up your weapons then? who could do that to a high level group?

>>55266692
Magic Sword transforms into person and we go into the city normally.

>>55267626
no, they aren't the fuck are you talking about, Umonk can't archetype the old archetypes, only the 4 new ones which are pretty meh

>>55267642
A palace ruled by a Sorcerrer king where every person of some importance has some actual tangible power unlike the helpless kings of regular fantasy.

>>55267652
>qigong monk powers already added to Umonk
>zen archer<blood crow strike
>style feats with full BAB>master of many styles
It's like you actually haven't played one.

>>55267642
Except for the Open hand lvl 17 feature most of these features are acquired by level 6.

>>55267673
>Style feats
You can pick style feats as a paladin if you want, that doesn't turn you into a Master of Many styles neither you can combine them
You can't be a sohei
You can't be a Tetori
You can't be a Hungry Ghost
And a long etc

Stop moving the goalpost
>zen archer<blood crow strike
In your dreams, I played both, blood crow strike is fine but isn't better than zen archer who doesn't have to spend ki to attack at distance, ignores cover and concealment, is less MAD etc

>>55267685
To be a tank as a long death monk you need the 11th level feature

>>55267726
You also forgot Blood Crow Strike is a motherfucking 14th level power.

>>55267673
Anon, you have "full BAB" with master of many styles.

>>55267763
No, you have better bonus to attack and a bonus to damage but no iteratives

>>55266827
Stupid pink. One good knife is all you need. Loose it? Every cunt has one and you always have your fists

>>55266692
Obviously this isn't a setting with magic/psionics if they don't allow weapons in while anyone could literally blow apart a room with their mind.

>>55267857

What if spellbooks are banned too?

>>55267887
Even if you're a wizard, only class that has a spellbook, you can still cast ward grimoire, which sends it to a personal plane till you need it and is only a 3rd level spell

>>55266692
>Hunter's Mark to offset the low 1d4 dagger damage
>Colossus slayer for an extra 1d8 on followup attacks
I should be able to put up a fight at least

>"My sword? Officer, look at this thing. It's a historical curio, nothing more. Look at how beaten and rusted it is. Do you seriously think it would be any better than an iron club as a weapon?"
it would
doesn't matter anyway since my right gauntlet is my casting focus

Great. I wasn't looking for a fight anyway.

>>55267936
hehehehe poor you, asking for your weapons is the redest flag for ambushes inside the cities ever

>tfw still 2 claw attacks and bite

>>55266692
>in a bizzare twist the kingdom is ruled by a sentient sword

>>55266692
Roleplay in a city setting and not worry about 3 combats everynight.

>>55268006
Handing over your weapons means it all will be about combat.

>>55267812
Fuck you, demon bitch

She always had a knife anyway

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I'd be fine with it. Only rural and suburban retards want a 10ft flaming sword. Do you think you can really take on the town guards? Please

>>55267181
This is the HRE we're talking about, here. Their laws were more byzantine than the Byzantine's laws.

>>55268107
Only with a shitty DM, with a good DM it will be about avoiding combat or getting the drop on enemies. It will be about coming up with good improvised weapons to get an edge on foes. It will be about an ordinary guy with a sword being a significant challenge giving players an incentive to use stealth or subterfuge. City-focused games with roguish characters can be awesome.

>>55268214
But I can.

>>55268214
You can go back now.
But yes, I can take on the town guards. Even if I couldn't, I have diplomatic immunity and another three people around me who kill dragons for shits and giggles.

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>>55266692
Come and take it.

>>55268257
>>55268250

If you can take on a bunch of mooks in your regular gear, but you're a sitting duck without it, you don't deserve to have it to begin with.

>>55268272
Eh?
My character could easily paste dozens of swordsmen without being hit, so long as I have my focus (which isn't in the form of a weapon, so doesn't fall under the OP's rules).

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>>55268257
This is why weapons and magic should be outlawed it gives a small amount of people power to opress others. Do you really think the public wants maniacs like you guys walking around their town? Pls buy my book

>>55267236
Try a Cinquedea then, 50cm long blade. It was invented specifically to flout Italy's no sword rule by sticking to the law by the letter but pissing on the spirit.

Funfact: The medieval "Longknife" was basically a one-edged sword. It was one-edged because that way it didn't qualify as a sword, which only few people were allowed to have, but as a knife, which everyone was allowed to have.

>>55266692
Bags of holding exist for a reason, you know.

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>>55268330

the idea might work for some royal cities of the "Forbidden City of Imperial China" variety, where you can literally order your servants to go in front of the city walls to chop firewood. But otherwise it seems pretty removed from the actual reality of most of those things being tools that almost everyone needs at the time.

I'm pretty sure you could easily forbid martial weapons, however.

>>55268309
You know who is also opressor? That ancient dragon who decide to raze the city. I think i`ll be joining him now.

>>55266692
>>55266827

What if... My weapon is a flail forged out of Astral matter that appears when I make an unsheathing action and dissipates when I will it?

>>55268309
My counter-argument is as follows:
Fuck you, I'm a High Lord. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go straight to collect your unemployment checks for telling your boss to give up his weapons at the gate to his own city.

>>55268403
Now watch the town guards unionize

>>55268483
If they want to, that's fine by me. I've already done a significant amount to improve their pay, equipment and training in the time I've been in office. If they want more, they can negotiate like any other interest group.

>>55266769
Every caster but a specific few in my setting. Magic is a rare commodity and needs to be handled carefully.

>>55266692
>AM I BEING DETAINED?

>>55266833
>Implying that the city and all of civilization in general don't view adventurers as nuisances at best, or bloodyhirsty lunatics at worst

>>55266900
Are you me? Literally had the character like that, but I think it was knife master/scout or something. Literal pssshhh.... kiddd.... in the surprise round.

>>55266932
What is the source of this image? Why is Google's search algorithm so shit nowadays?

There were actual medieval laws like that. Also, innkeepers were obligated to warn the mayor about all armed and armored people stopping at the inn. Thing is, you were allowed to carry weapons and wear armor if you're a mercenary or a person in service of the kingdom. Nobles carried swords as well, of course.

If we're talking fantasy settings with adventurers, they'll probably need to acquire a permit of some sort, and that's it.

>>55268766
Because of niggers.
But seriously, when searching google engine with image of negroids it would give you gorillas

>>55267016
>a saw is a weapon

>>55266692
Purchase an extremely potently enchanted dagger.

>>55268766
It's an old manga about meidos called Emma.
By the same lady that does A Bride's Story.

>>55266692
Encourage the guards to take it by force as i had no reason to unsheathe it in over a decade
If they don't want to let me in i'll just walk through them, it's not like they're heavy enough to stop me

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>>55268831
A saw is very easily utilized as a weapon, yes.

>>55266692
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED REEEEE

>>55266729
My one scroll is Hellball. Anyone fucks with me, WE ALL DIE TOGETHER

>>55266729
what about invocation/spoken magic like this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI2tuPJonRg

>>55266692
Play a monk, and fight with literally the biggest dick on the streets. Oh, you have a knife? Well, the tip of my dick deals 2d8 damage.

>>55266834
Underrated, you literalist bastard.

>>55266848
He can wear samurai armor. Or just cast Endure Elements. Or just not worry about the problems you made because they aren't actually rules.

>>55268766
The reverse-image function on 4chan only searches for the thumbnail, and since 4chan is likely the only place that hosts the thumbnail sized images, it returns poor results. You have to save the full sized image and then image-search it manually.

>>55267337
I unironically want this setting.

>>55267545
I loved that album.

>>55268108
Yeah, A knife. You'll trip down the stairs and gut yourself. Even the boy only carried two

>>55268831
Oh is it not? Okay then. This isn't a greatsword, it's a straight-edged two-handed saw.

>>55267208
That isn't why messers existed. Messers are legally not swords not to be allowed to be carried around, but so that knife makers can compete in the sword market without infringing on the sword guild's monopoly.

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>>55266692
Bring a big knife.

>>55268721
>LE ADVENTURERS ARE BAAAAAD LAWL

Fuck off with that shit.

I set up a business providing goods lockers outside every city on the continent. Don't trust the guards? Check in with me.

>>55270317
I would probably modify my setting as I go based on the actions of the party.
>If the party are actually nice and generous with their money people will love adventurers, when a party enters a town small children might run up to them to get a look at the heroes
>If the party are jackasses who bully local villagers than I modify the setting so adventurers in general are viewed with distrust. The shop owner may order one of his workers to keep an eye on the party while they browse, a barkeep may deny them good rooms so their best rooms don't get trashed
Essentially treat the party like the average adventurers and base encounters of people they haven't met on that. Besides a small group of armed men walk into town and your only two options are highwaymen or adventurers, so its better to air on the side of caution.

>>55267490
>>55267421
>>55267520
There's a reason the words "abuse of" and "power" are used so often together. The same basic description could be applied to some feudal European knights as well- recall that the French lost at Agincourt because so many of their knights were more concerned with fighting a battle than winning it. Sounds exactly like what you'd expect from a bunch of authority figures with fancy weapons and immunity from most consequences.

>>55267606
God I wish bladelocks were more viable. I guess I should run an Eldritch Knight, but I just like pact magic as a concept.

>>55267642
The point is that a Monk is barely hindered by being disarmed at any level. Low levels it's like 1-2 points of damage a turn on average? Whereas other martials will go from d8 rapiers or d10 longswords down to d4 daggers or such. That's more like 2-4 damage per ATTACK difference.

>>55267726
>To be a tank as a long death monk you need the 11th level feature

Nah. Te lvl 3 feature alone is enough for that in a citty full of commoners for the bag of rats.

>>55266692
Trust the Rogue with my weapon so he can conceal it on his person.

Hilarity ensues as he becomes a weapon-filled piñata for the guards to shake/beat up.

>>55266692
Bag of Holding up me bum

>>55270809
Then again that's your answer to everything, even the situations that don't call for anus-based solutions.

>>55266692
Use chair legs, glass bottles, fists, knives and work tools

>>55271128
Such situations don't exist.

>>55267418
Newbie here, where can I get more info on those types of monks?

Oh hey this thread again
>I'd carry a weapon anyway
>Super high magic solution for a low magic problem
>My character is a paranoid sociopath
>I tell the law to go fuck itself with no consequences
>No similar countermeasures for mages
>Mentioning messers
>Well actually in my setting
>Its an exalted game why do I care
>Its D&d while ignoring what being a player with levels means
>Genie tier wordplay

What am I missing? Thinking about making a bingo board.

>>55266692
> Carry lots of daggers, and get my expensive sword properly peace-bound by the town guard.
> Get my sword peace-bound, and then hit people with the sheathed sword
> Camp outside the walls and send the wizard and rogue in to do trading.
> Stage a protest by blocking the main gate

>>55266729
>okay guys you can only carry ONE nuke on you at a time, thats it

>>55271845
You forgot "Well, I just wouldn't go there!"

>>55266692
Im a soul knife

Or
Im rolling my Eldritch Knight and can instantly summon my halbard or my hand axe.

>>55267970
>he doesn't like being carried

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>>55266692
Carry a knife like a good boy.

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>"Well shit... just don't lose any of it, okay?"
>"Perhaps the lord of this place will permit me to keep them once I prove myself a worthy ally to this province."

it's honestly just the origin and appearance of his equipment, he's really a nice guy to the commonfolk

>>55266692
What if I keep the weapon locked up in my trunk and the ammo in my glovebox? I have a permit you know!

>>55266742
Brigantine would be more practical.

>>55272716
Fucking autocorrect.

Brigandine

>>55266692
several small daggers that form one giant sword when put together

>>55266694
Entire city is encased in an anti magic bubble, or nodes that dissipates magic when used.

>>55271845
accusing dm of actively trying to fuck over pcs

>>55272838
And only certain areas like a mage hall/guild is free where it can be monitored by high ranking mages that are trustworthy by the city.

>>55271845
>One person valiantly attempting to answer the question seriously

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>>55266865

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>>55266692
I got a cane

>>55266692
dagger, club/knobkerrie & sling ar e fine, no armour excpt leather or padded, no shields either.

>>55272619
Cool looking katana

>>55273215
Danke schön.

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>>55268258
Well, you cant come in then.

>players think no one else in the setting has even thought of sword canes before
>not even the guy that fucking sold them to them

>>55273215
I mean yeah, a messer is basically an independently developed western katana, without the class expectation, and made entirely out of steel instead of low quality iron.

Well, there are many ways you could approach this. Hidden weapons, weapons that can change size, weapons that don't look like weapons, lots and lots of poison, spellcasting in general, unarmed fighting, the list goes on.

>>55273282
Oh and I nearly forgot, significantly better hand protection.

>>55266692
Finally, my dagger build is (kinda) viable!

>>55273286
But why though?

>>55273282
>low quality
Like your bait

>>55273323
Haha nice one. Japan has shitty iron anon, that's literally why they needed to fold it a billion times to get the impurities out, while only making the edge of their swords out of steel instead of the entire thing leading to an easily bendable butt parade of a weapon.

>>55270809
When you're a hammer, sometimes every problem looks like butt-play

>>55273322
What if you need to assassinate someone? What if the guards get dominated and start killing people? What if the kingdom next door decides to teleport in an army and start conquering the continent? That's why.

>>55273354
Well fold out impurities and more evenly distribute carbon content.

>>55266692
Bag of Holding, next question.

>>55266692
Get a life, bin that knoife!

>>55273374
>What if you need to assassinate someone?
You'd probably not use a sword to begin with and thus not be affected by the law.
>What if the guards get dominated and start killing people?
Then the casualties will already be massive by the time your rag tag band of bad asses can respond swords or otherwise. This could be avoided with more checks on mages, but as is would have already succeeded as a terror attack by the time any response could be considered.
>What if the kingdom next door decides to teleport in an army and start conquering the continent?
That's what the city's mages, guards, militia, watch, potentially even army is for. Same with the domination scenario. By the time your rag tag band of badasses respond the damage has already been done, and commoners having swords wouldn't have stopped it one bit.
>That's why.
Not really.

>>55273374
Anon what you're doing is dishonest. You're placing a by your own design a low magic city into a high magic world where it cannot support itself as a population center.

That's like me posting in an arms and armor thread about how shitty gothic plate would be at defending you from a 75 ton marauder's alpha strike, or that the very idea of armoring yourself with the intent of participating in melee combat violates the very principles and traditions of zellbrigen.

Why bother specifically creating circumstances in which you're right and then declaring yourself correct?

Take a dagger, take two. Take a walking/planting stick with a pointy end, knuckle dusters in the pocket. Take a kama

>>55270809
Or hear me out.

The wizard/cleric raises a donkey as a Zombie, with preserve corpse spell, you then shove everything up the ass's ass.

>>55273250
>wooden gate

Is it ornamental?

>>55273798
>that the very idea of armoring yourself with the intent of participating in melee combat violates the very principles and traditions of zellbrigen
HOW DARE YOU INSULT ZELLBRIGEN!?

I DECLARE A BATCHALL!

>>55266692
heavy metal staff and being a big guy
maybe add a spike on the end

be a spellcaster/psion

be a monk

>>55274723
Fuck off clan scum.

>>55266692
Pocket Sand.

>>55270809
Pathfinder pouch.

Or even just a hidden compartment in your cart.

>>55266692
I'm an ok runner so I put a spiked helmet on. I tell them it's some knight culture shit and they all cheer when I headbutt a pickpocket to death

>>55267078
>Why do modern soldiers regularly leave behind critical parts of their own armor behind even when they expect a fight?
They don't leave anything critical, they just have a different opinion as to what constitutes critical, and in 140 degree weather pretty much everything that isn't the helmet or trauma plates is considered non-critical.

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>>55266692
Be a knight of the realm and thus be exempt by royal law of local laws of that nature.

Or see if there is a lop hole in the law, for example a there being a laws that gives a definition to what a sword is. In the HRE and a few places to the east of it hilt construction methods were part of the laws governing what a is sword, to better protect the power of a swordsmith guild. The "Großes Messer" is a type of sword ( er 'knife') that was made to use that lope hole. See pic.

Or just get a big dagger. In most cultures the point in which a dagger something becomes a sword is if it has a total length above a given amount. 14 to 24 inches were common cultural amounts. The only example of something that was called a sword that was shorter then 14 inches is the Tanto. It is important to however that the Japanese only viewed it as being a sword in the sense that the laws of manufacture that governed it were the same as the those governing making real swords.

>>55266742
Places that had laws against walking around with weapons they also had laws against walking around with armor during peace times IRL.

>>55266692
Begin an organization to lobby for repeal of the law under the pretense of a right to personal security through the right to bear arms, but in reality we're just an arm of rich arms merchants trying to make a buck off the sale of weaponry to the common people.

>>55278039
Don't be ridiculous, that would never work!

>>55267231
And what is that length? Blades were used in all sorts of trades. Even long ones. A good foot long blade could be used in trades as variant as gardening to boatswain.

Germans have been trolling longer then you have been alive. Get over the fact that you are not smart enough to outwit an entire people.

>>55267413
Source? Google and iqdb give nothing.

>>55272529
>he

>>55266692
Ply my trade in countries that are not kingdoms, such as princedoms, tribe confederation, republics or empires.

>>55267231
>he doesn't know bout dem peasants

Peasants and burghers were masters of exploiting semantics like this.

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>>55266692
make the setting in texas

>ban swords
>don't ban monstrous races
>don't ban spellcasters
Racism against humans isn't ok. Neither is classism against martials.

>be a high level fighter who everyone on the continent knows has slaughtered tens of thousands of men, women, and monstrous entities
>possibly a few children in there too

Magi, swerve!

>>55266787
That's life in the burning sands, which has the no weapons rule in the biggest city. Death cultists use scarves, deuling is clasped hands dagger fights. Only guards have weapons, they volunteer twice a week.

Magic users are of course bullshit and don't care about these rules.

>>55266692
I laugh because I have throwing knives

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>>55266692
>This? This is just a stick I brought for some kindling. Same goes for the large bundle of them in my pack.

>>55267321
this was clearly bait

>>55272838
This shit never makes sense.

If there are spell casters, the town without the stupid bubble with prosper while the no mages allowed shithole would be over run with piss peasants and the paranoid.

If they ever tried to fight mage land, they would have to find a way to mobilize non magic land where the mages would just leave.

>>55277731
sashsarh!
Neeeh!

>>55267413
source me up

>>55266799
Enjoy your death by hyponatremia.

>>55280095
Chew some salted meat while you march then.

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Bribe the gaurds.
If they're corrupt enough to take my rightfully owned weapons, then they're corrupt enough to take my offer to look the other way

>>55266692
I feel like this is a little nonsensical when a sufficiently magical dagger can tear through people like butter just as well as a sword can.

Start a National Dagger Association and push kingdoms to allow all bladed weapons. Then I'll start taking donations from blacksmiths and talk about how the elites want to take all of your swords, sending peasants running to stock up.

>>55280118
>Rightfully owned weapons
>Having them is against the law
>They enforce the law
>This makes them corrupt
If I paid for a bunch of crack cocaine and rocket launchers, should I expect the cops not to care because I bought them and they are, therefore, rightfully owned?

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>>55268228
>H
>R
>E

Thief it up my dude

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>>55280175
These laws are unlawful.

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>>55280175

>>55280118
Not taking weapons into the city is a common law.

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>>55266692
If it's modern day.

It's what i carry

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>>55266692
I'd argue that I'm a chef and they are a necessity to my trade, and if they dispute that I offer them a free meal to show that I'm legit as a show of good will.

>>55280499
http://www.ncsc.org/Topics/Courthouse-Facilities/Court-Security/State-Links.aspx?cat=Firearms%20in%20Courthouses%20and%20Courtrooms

AS with all the things in the us. diffrent laws depending on the state. But it would be like taking a gun into court.

>>55266848
wear linen over the armour, like the crusaders did, for the same reason they did

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>>55266692

Just use a quarterstaff. Affordable, versatile, and a credible threat to anything that isn't wearing a lot of padding under their armor.

Unless you mean to deprive me of my walking stick...

>>55266692
I use weaponized nudity

>>55267857
Psionics is faggotry

Do they inspect every hegglers cart? Every pot of every delivery of milk?
Do they unroll all the carpets that pass through the gates?

well I guess I'd probably respect the customs of the land and try not to make a scene

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>>55280772
Give it up you wizard lookin old fuck, I ain't fallin for it this time

>>55266692
So my pistols are fine then. Hell these lowbrow sods probably don't even know what they are any way.

>You won't mind if I bringe my smoking pipe
>stuff some herbs inside breech
>light it
>Go ahead, partake!
>Oop, looks like you're out, here let me refresh it for you
>Load shell
>From arabia and the heathen lands, go ahead smoke!
>Pull trigger with gun in their mouth

>>55280940
I bet you, somewhere, somehow, there is someone stupid enough to fall for this..

>>55280678
Op doesn't expressly prohibit firearms just anything bigger than a dagger.

>>55280884
pfft... gandalf can't even cast fireball

>>55280940

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRLTFi--lY

>>55266692
We go to Texas, which has just made swords legal for open carry in any place that isn't a school, hospital, airport, or that sells alcohol

>>55281032
Never forget the day William Dafoe made Charlie Sheen his bitch..

>>55266692
Set up a weapon storage business right outside the city gates, start to rake in that dosh

>>55281253
You know, you don't think you'll do it till someone points a gun at you.

>>55280940
Ha! Lets see Harry Turtledove top that!

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>>55280977
Pleb even without his mage skills dude can cast top level fire spells all day long just from his elf ring.

>>55266692
Figure out which class has a bound or pact weapon feature in your system and put the relevant levels into it so you can summon your weapon.

>>55266848
Comfort armors, bitch. It's not that expensive.

>>55266692
> put the weapons into your bag of holding.
> find another way into the city
> carry a bunch of daggers
> do quests for the cities so you become the exception
> Have one person enter the town, then slip the weapons to that person over the wall. Go into town without issue and stash your weapons.
> disguise your weapons in a bedroll or another unassuming container (think Terminator 2 flower box 1887)

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Weapons must be checked at an inn, you're only allowed to carry upon entering and exiting the town (generally how those medieval laws actually worked).
Mages must wear something which clearly indicates visually both that they are casters and their school of magic. All crimes committed with magic are handled by the magical not civil authorities and generally carry greater punishment.
Non humans must wear padded versions of pic related at all time or any crime they commit will have "with a deadly weapon" attached to it.

>>55281389
>Mages must wear something which clearly indicates visually both that they are casters and their school of magic.
and what if they don't? you are going to subject them to the geneva convention?

>>55281389
>Non humans must wear padded versions of pic related at all time or any crime they commit will have "with a deadly weapon" attached to it.

retarded. just cut them off with a dagger when you get into town.

>>55278808
Klingons would love the wild west.

>>55281762

Doesnt Dragonlance have something to enforce mage dress in the official robes of their order or you get execited for roguw magic?

>>55281828
I dunno. Dragon Lance is 10 million years old.

>>55281389
>Mages must wear something which clearly indicates visually both that they are casters and their school of magic
How is this regulated? Are mages obliged to sleep in properly colored pajamas? Is skinny dipping or taking showers forbidden?

>>55281762
Then any crimes they commit are considered worse. Duh.
>>55281877
Why do you have to ask purposefully retarded questions anon? Are these mages committing crimes worthy of the attention of the magical authorities while they bathe?

>>55281900
>Why do you have to ask purposefully retarded questions anon?
They are no more retarded than Dragonlance setting

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>>55266865
I get this reference.

>>55281929
Anon if you have no concealed carry permit, is the atf going to break down your door if you take a shower with a derringer wedged in you butt cheeks?

>>55281981
>is the atf going to break down your door if you take a shower with a derringer wedged in you butt cheeks?
Quite likely. And they will do it for sure If I take shower while drunk and smoking cigar.

>>55266692
Everything that's not a fist is for pussies.

>>55282004
Sometimes fists are for pussies too

>>55280223
>(not)HOLY
>(not)ROMAN
>(not)EMPIRE

>>55281999
Only if you live in a surveillance state. Though I suppose its more likely a city mage would have access to a city scale detect magic spell, than the atf having butt derringer detection.

>>55266692
>tie axe to rope and drag it noisily behind me wherever I go
But officer, the rules only say I can't *carry* a weapon.

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>>55266888
with blackjack and hookers

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>>55266692
I bring an alehouse dagger.
Because you can't say a dagger is bigger than a dagger

>>55282359

once you have that thing, what's stopping you from bringing tons of warhammers, handaxes, and maybe even a really small bow as long as they're all smaller than it?

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>>55282377
Why would I need though when I have a lantern shield in my other hand?

>>55281224
Which is fine. In those places you can take your assault rifle with you.

>>55282377

Nothing. That's the historical point.

The thing a lot of people don't get is there's a sharp divide between the civil weapons everyone above a basic peasant would have, and even some of those, and the actual weapons meant for war one sees about.

If the guards allow a dagger they'll probably allow a lighter rapier or equivalent weapon, because otherwise the people who bling them out as status symbols will complain. Laborers will invariably be using a cutlass or handaxe for splitting wood and menial tasks. Unless literally every city expects you to chop your wood and work your labor outside the city limits it's an unenforceable law past a certain point, and if you do that you'll just get people emigrating past the city walls and building new quarters out there.

The difference is you can't just blatantly decide to carry around a giant ass two handed sword literally nobody carries around outside wartime, or a halberd that only works in formation, without the implication you expect to USE it. Nobody lugs that shit around 24/7.

>>55280223
Depends on the time. Also Voltaire is overrated as fuck.

>>55282435
those are shitty civilian knock offs, not actual assault weapons. those are more difficult for them to get

>>55281224
That is good, they had some surprisingly shitty knife laws

>>55280360
Not really.

>>55266692
My cold dead hands.

>>55273037

I would seriously deny an old man his walking stick

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>>55266692
It's okay officer, this is just a bench I use to sit down sometimes

>>55266692
Good. Can't just be having mass swordings or axeings like they have in the western continent.

>>55284085

Your Highness, please get back inside the palace. The angry shouting woman will yell at us again.

Man that kids a decent ruler all things considered but I swear he was dropped on his head as a lad.

Concealed carry was actually considered more illegal for historical purposes of weapon control in cities. Because anyone that was hiding a small weapon was surely up to no good with underhanded tactics.

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>>55284144

>>55282459
Most fantasy settings are essentially wartime settings unless there are no monsters that threaten civilization. In which case adventuring would be more like going on safari and hunting big game for sport. Still you wouldn't carry around polearms like a greatsword, but you would have it strapped to your pack animal.

>>55284143
Here here! Lightning bolt to the back, that's the civilized way to do business.

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>>55266865
Truly, this is just a slab of metal with a handle.

>>55267413
Sauce?

>>55266692
Laugh because I'm a monk

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>>55266865
Nice

>>55266692
I can think of three options.
A: go full iaijutsu and strap the hilt to the sword, turning it into an incredibly odd club.
B: weasel through the law using exact words. And wield the sword out of it's sheath at all times. It's in use, therefore it's not being carried.
C: throw logic to the wind. Why, yes, my friendly neighborhood guardsman, this +10 Eternal Slaughteraxe of the Darklords is a tool. Trust me, i'm a lumberjack by trade and i know my woodcutting axes when i see them.

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>>55287325
>It's in use, therefore it's not being carried.

you can carry something while using it m8

>>55288258
Not if we're using exact words and definitions. What the common folk call carrying might be something totally else in the eyes of law.

Although i'll admit, it hinges heavily on the act of wielding a weapon be distinct from carrying it. For example, you'd carry things on outstretched arms or on your shoulders, and anything just held with one hand and off your shoulder would count as wielding, regardless of the object held.

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>>55266692
I don't know what you're concerned about, officer. This is a totally normal and mundane hydrospanner. It spans hydros. Just the sort of tool you'd find in the hands of a loyal Imperial citizen employed at Notta Jidai's Speeder Repair.