"Bad Decisions" Edition Last time on /edhg/: >

first for not eating too much at dinner so you don't feel sick

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Speaking of bad desicions, way to go me for forgetting the goddamn title.

I dun goofed and forgot to sell my 5 cocos while they were 25 bucks. Now I don't know what the fuck to do with them. Do I hold onto them hoping that they'll slowly climb up in price from Modern?

>>55226139
They might go up a bit if the Ixalan UG Merfolk deck ends up being a thing.

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Anyone draw-go control here?

I traded away an extra grave titan and a mikaeus the unhallowed for kokusho and wurmcoil because the shop didnt have all the stuff i wanted

Before I got back into Magic, I sold an aether vial for $5 because I had no idea what anything was worth.

>have the deckbuilding bug
>can't decide on what to build

Fuck

>>55226098
>killed discord but forgot the same fags obsessivley suck Sally's dick
8/10 but you lose some points for missing that title, son.

>>55226339
I know that feel. I've spent months brewing a new deck every single day and every time I either stopped because I didn't like it or finished the list and never put it together.

>>55226250
Where and what do you even look up to find sleeves with have frontal graphics?
I really like the look of this particular sleeve ya got.

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>>55226339
Build Best Bug Boy fallen amonkhet gods pls go and stay go

>>55226098
>thread question

I was new to the game and blew my wrath of god on turn 4 when someone casted pic related>>55226098

>>55226388
That's an Oversleeve or Sleeve Guard/Protector. It's used in Triple-Sleeving, aka: the final step before 99 Toploader Singleton.

I was playing Breya and tutored out a fun combo instead of my game winning infinite, and next turn got my field hate wiped and spent that long miserable game getting every permanent I played destroyed.

>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made?

Started playing in the khans block, traded away my ugin that i just opened for a bunch of timmy rares

>>55226339
>only get the desire to build and brew when I'm preoccupied with other shit
>once I have time to I simply lose all interest in it

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Threadly reminder that this game is currently undergoing the exact same speculation asshattery that crashed the Comic Book Industry.

>>55226427
I see. I've only ever perfect fit, sleeve, toploaded/hard cased before.

intrdasting

Where the fuck you get em?

>>55226476
I refuse to believe that's real

>>55226492
Look for KMC character guards. Heads up beforehand, your deck will be fucking fat. It probably won't fit in even a satin tower.

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uh, you don't get to bring spells

>>55226457
Same thing happened to me when I left because of Mirrodin and rejoined for Scars of Mirrodin. Goodbye, my lovely Karn.

>>55226476
Good thing Wizards decided to start printing their ink on shittier card board, eh, boys

>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made? Failed decks, trades before price spikes, even dumb misplays, anything goes.
Trading a Norn on NP prerelease for a foil Engulfing Slagwurm, still feel like a retard whenever I remember that.

>>55226533
Thats pretty strong, wow

>>55226533
Suprised this isnt a rare.

>>55226533
Quick question, does the countered card go to the graveyard if it's an ability on a creature?

>>55226532
This. Triple sleeved (Perfect Fit + Dragon Shield + Character Guard) decks can't fit inside Satin Tower, so you would need to resort to a bigger box or take out the perfect fit

>>55226476
>buy out a fuckton of C17
>local Walmart vendors order a lot more because they know they can sell more to normal people if they move fast enough
>new shipments come in before he can flip them and his "market" dries up overnight

>>55226579
No

Going to use my left over shitty minotaurs from when I first got into make a commander deck using some of the new stuff. Any tips?

>>55226533
>Mefolk support? FUCK THAT, it's a siren pirate wizard.

>>55226533
>he's the calm that hides the coming storm

who is he?

>>55226605
They want a 1-drop so Pirate decks can trigger Beckett's ability more consistently.

>>55226533
STORM CROW CONFIRMED, I REPEAT:
STORM
CROW
CONFIRMED

standard is doomed

>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made?

I had a chance to buy some stuff from a guy who had actually known some of the East Coast Playtesters and had been collecting since Beta. I only ended up getting a Mishra's Workshop and Transmute Artifact, but I had the chance to buy some stuff like Bazaar of Baghdad and even an Unlimited Black Lotus, but passed up on it.

>>55226533
>>55226556
>>55226574
Please note that it's "spell or ability that targets you or a creature you control."

I've had friend after friend ditch Hindering Light from their decks because of this limitation.

Uncommon is exactly where this guy fits. Still seems like a far worse Judge's Familiar to me.

>>55226098
>Thread question
I traded a Liliana of the Veil for a Lord of Riots at RTR prerelease because I was new and had no fucking idea about card values.

>>55226629
They could've made Beckett's ability less stupid in the first place

>>55226098
I did not pick up cavern of souls or grove of the burnwillows before the prices spiked.

>>55226098
I sold 2 Damnations to my friend for $20 each back when they were in standard.

>>55226880
Well, at least that one got vindicated by time and they're actually under $20 these days.

If I'm gonna draft a decently recent set, probably a box being around $80-125, what would be the best for possible future EDH cards?

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>>55226533
FUUUUUCK WHY COULDN'T THIS HAVE BEEN A FISH TO REPLACE CURSECATCHER

>>55226914
>they're actually under $20 these days

Planar Chaos copies are still typically over $20.

>>55226952
Draft a Conspiracy box, fun to draft with and lots of goofy interaction cards

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Dralnu seems like a cool control commander, but how often does this downside come up? I don't want to get nuked out of the game for messing up

Is WotC too scared to ban artifact lands from EDH because they don't want their new baby
Breya to get dropped?

>>55227054
True, but not too terribly far over. Beats them being like $40-50 like they were.

>>55227165
why would they ban artifact lands?

>>55227144
He's a Storm deck. You should only be putting him out when you're about to storm off with a double High Tide or Paradox engine play. Otherwise 100% of the time you'll get hit with a Blasphemous Act and lose your board.

I bought like 10 fetchlands about a week before they were spoiled in Khans. Enemy and Allied, the release dropped the price of both significantly.

That felt bad

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>>55227144
>>55227187
Hey, what's that up in the sky?

>>55227165
They're not as good in EDH because you can only play one of each and Affinity isn't good here.

>>55227165
Artifact lands aren't broken in EDH. They're banned in formats where Affinity is a thing because at 4 of and with Ravager/Cranial Plating support all but guaranteed in your first two turns they're degenerate, but they only give Breya a little boost and she doesn't need them. Also
>WotC
>EDH banlist
This is a Sheldor thread.

>>55227144
He's kind of outshone by Kess now.

>>55227165
You only get one of each, and assuming she's your commander, that'd be a maximum of four.
There's no reason to ban them. Nigga's ain't playin' turn 3 affinity wins in EDH.

>>55227165
>Artifact lands being a problem
>Breya being a problem

I get the impression someone in your playgroup just beat your ass with some disposable Thopters and you're feeling a bit salty about it.

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>>55227214
>run that in Mizzix
so much value

>>55226688
Please note that it also counters abilities.

>>55227262
He still has the upside of being possibly used more than once per turn and at instant speed.

>>55227187
>>55227262
>Storm

well damn, I thought he'd be more akin to Rashmi where I play him and start getting tons of value

>>55227314
THAT
is also very, very true.
Good point, anon.

Wonder if this'll end up as a promo. Wizards seems to love this kinda card.

>>55227334
>Wonder if this'll end up as a promo.

Didn't you get the memo? wizard only print double sided tokens as promos now

>>55227334
>>55227374

here link:

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/store-play-evolves-2017-07-16

>The second is a move to foil double-sided tokens from the then-current set rather than foil cards from recent Standard-legal sets.
>We're hoping foil double-sided tokens offer something different and exciting.

>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made? Failed decks, trades before price spikes, even dumb misplays, anything goes.
Playing M:tG.

>>55227394
and after this they'll cry that the attendance for FNM is at an all time low.

>>55227374
Oh, shit, no, I didn't.

So they went from promoing anything, to no promo mythics, to... we only do tokens now.

Aight. That's kind of fucking lame.

Just FNM?

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>>55227394
Holy fuck
If it meant foil Rebecca Guay art lands forever, I'd be moderately fine with it, but I know it won't be

>dat swamp

>>55227270
Darksteel Citadel makes it 5 friendo :^)

>>55227469
My retarded ass thought Breya was Esper
Forgot she's four colors

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>>55227180
>Thread Question: What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made? Failed decks, trades before price spikes, even dumb misplays, anything goes.

>used to playing EDH with my group friends and getting drunk then we all shit talk when we do something dirty on the board
>get used to playing like this
>go to card shop and play with randoms
>its just down to me and another guy
>have Animar at like 5 1/1+ counters so everything costs nothing almost
>he swings out cause he thinks its over
>tell him "kill yourself retard" and play Aetherize then on my turn plau temur ascendancy and all of the creatures in my hand
>do 25 damage and win
>card store doesn't like me because I said it to a kid

This was recent how the fuck do I recover bros? Should I just go to a new store?

>>55227565
You apologize to the kid you told to kill himself and the store owner for tarnishing his store's reputation and then you don't do it again you aspie fuckhead.

>>55227565
why did you reply to me?

>>55226533
Another flying man for Edric, Time Wizard of Trest.

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>>55227565

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>>55227565
>Told an underage kid whose playing to have fun to kys himself

Stick to your 'friends' and don't socialize with anyone else unless your caretaker friends say it's ok.

Thread question:
Either traded away my stoneforge mystic right before scars of mirrodin was revealed or sold my lilli of the veil at the prerelease of innistrad.

>>55227245
As far as I know legacy has full power affinity and affinity is like high tier 3 there.

The physical act of building decks sucks. I just make lists and lists and lists for days.

Sek'kuar and Mairsil need too much shit to work.

>>55227651
Please sell all of your slivers so that slivers come back ;_;

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>>55227663
>tfw want to play cool weird enchantments just because

maybe I'll slap this into edgar to force everyone else to turn dudes sideways too.

>>55227760
Why are cards that cost triple black so appealing? I half want to dark ritual out a Bridge From Below just to see people's faces.

This would be so bad in my monoblack deck, but I want it anyway.

>>55227760
Damn I was thinking of something really nasty with the new Mirri and this card until I saw "could have attacked"

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>playing GW Selvala
>"Hey man, is that Paradox Engine?"
>tell him yes
>"Ugh, I hate Paradox Engine, takes forever."
>pulls out JVP, plays High Tide, proxied Timetwister and Candelabra
>mfw

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>dragons

what do you do?

>run the Reiterate infinite in Mizzix for a win-con
>rarely use it because stacking experience counters is so fun
I want to find a play-style that lets me keep stacking experience counters and drawing cards, but my playgroup is so mean...

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>>55227929

>>55227929
Glance meaningfully at my Dead Man Switch (aka untapped Nev's Disk)

>>55227929
Play my preferred 5 mana tribal artifact instead.

>>55227825
>no more than one creature can attack you

your opponents can still be attacked without restrictions can't they?

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>>55227929
Laugh, then kill you with Insect tokens. Just like I did the last time we played, Nick.

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>>55228011
This one

>>55228018
Yep, when I read season at first I thought it just said all untapped creatures that didn't attack not could have

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>>55227929
Thought you were safe from the black deck, did you?

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>>55227823
it's the necropotence effect

>>55227929
The benefit of this compared to Amulet is so minor.

>>55227823
Because a lot of the old black cards, especially the ones with BBB in the cost, had a "black begets black" style to them

hey guys what is your opinion on my shitty spirit tribal commander deck?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/31-05-17-spirit-tribal-edh/

>>55226098
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.

Does Solemnity let you abuse Persist and Undying creatures?

>>55228317
yes

>>55228317
Yes.

>>55228240
It fits the thread question, but points for effort.

>>55228360
I haven't bought the cards yet, so its not like I'm losing much

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>>55227565

>>55228416
Time is all that matters.

>>55227565
did you get drunk that time too or something?

>>55227565
Double down on being an asshole. If it works in WWE, it can work at your LGS.

>>55228446
desu I would've wasted it on something else

>>55228462
wait I thought the "desu" thing was a joke its real?

>>55228479
Sure is desu imo senpai

>>55227565
Maybe don't tell children to commit suicide and go back to your autistic playgroup

>>55228240
include iname, deaths aspect + patriarchs bidding/rise of the dark realms. if you managed to pull that off it would be hilarious.

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>>55228479

>>55228479
It's been real for a few years now, anon.

>>55228591
I knew people did it a lot but I was lurking then and never bothered to test it

>>55228576 I kek'd for a good minute

>> 55228543 I did consider iname but I felt the combo reuired too much to go right. but I might put it in

>>55226427
>Triple-Sleeving

No one man should have all this autism

Gonti is pretty fun.

What are some unconventional stax cards? I'm a dirty hipster and I'll definitely run the usual suspects but I also like looking for stuff that makes someone grab the card and read it

>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made? Failed decks, trades before price spikes, even dumb misplays, anything goes.

Not worst for me but for someone else and he still regrets it to this day.

>Split a box of New Phyrexia with someone when it first came out
>Evenly split the packs
>I get both Karn and Batterskull

To this day he still gets mad when he sees my Karn in my Eldrazi Tron deck.

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>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made? Failed decks, trades before price spikes, even dumb misplays, anything goes.

Not the worst but a recent blunder.

>Bought a Mirari's Wake right before the precons came out for $15
>It's like $7 now

>>55226098
>What's the worst Magic-related decision you've ever made? Failed decks, trades before price spikes, even dumb misplays, anything goes.

When I first started magic, I was 11. Apocalypse had just come out (I started with a 7th edition starter kit or whatever it was called). I spent my weekly allowance on a booster pack. I got a Pernicious Deed.

My reaction was "what the fuck is this shit, it destroys my own stuff". I traded it in for another pack. I got another Pernicious Deed. I traded it in for another pack. I got another Pernicious Deed. Luckily that stupid store owner was trading me packs for this worthless card, so I got 4 packs that day.

I don't blame the store owner, I thought I was taking advantage of him, and I was a little shit.

>>55228855
Chains of Mephistopheles

>>55228855
Anything that gives phasing to another permanent can cause people to fuck up, because most people don't understand how phasing works.

Ward of Bones is a fun one in Zedruu.

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>Guy casts Armageddon
>Cast Teferi's Protection in response
>the entire table's face when

>>55228848
You're wrong

>>55228990
Did you get your toys taken away?

>>55228981
Dude, Armageddon and Avacyn fuckery has been around for years. This isn't exactly new.

>>55227144
Magebane Armor is your friend.

>>55227165
EDH banlist is not made by WotC, you piece of retarded newfriend.

>>55228981
>before your next turn, someone uses a "win the game" card which you can't counter.
>they're able to do this because instead of phasing their lands out, they just countered the Armageddon spell, or made their lands indestructible.

>>55229092
The online one is, and it should be used by everyone because the "official" offline one is made by retards.

>>55226360
I have never seen a single person recommend salvation during my time in the Discord.

>>55229010
I just wanted you to convince me otherwise

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>>55227565
How do you fuck up this bad?

Does anyone have the collage with the One With Nothing combo where you end our first turn with no lands, no hand, and no library?

>>55229208
Oh. Then just play him. You play him as monoblack control, except you get access to all the other good removal in your opponent's decks. Roll the dice enough and you steal their combo pieces in a way that they can never get them back.

Be as disruptive as possible.

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>>55229256

>>55229432
You can make it EDH legal, and use two less cards) with a land like Crosis's Catacomb

>>55229166
Check the OP. For some reason every time the discord link comes back, so does the glowing praise of Sally.

>>55228862
I was at a casual legacy tourney where everyone got a pack for participating so after the thing was done a dude was selling his pack for a beer, so I got him the damned beer, the pack had fucking Karn in it. Pure luckfaggotry does the body good.

>>55229432
Won't you still have one card in your graveyard? Tormod's Crypt?

>>55229755
Tormod's Crypt sacrifices itself as a cost, which means it's already in the grave when its effect resolves. It exiles itself.

>>55229432
Thank you, anon.

>>55229464
It is funnier to use the entire hand of 7 and to sinkhole your land.

The variant with Leveler and Kaerek's Spite isn't nearly as funny for the same reason.

My decks worked today! They did what they were intended to do. And I won one of them. I had Monarch for the whole game except for 2 turns, 1 at the beginning and one mid game.

Now I just need to make all my other decks work.

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I'm building Ezuri Elves. At what point to I stop going off the top elves listed on edhrec? There's so many fucking elves.

>>55226098
>thread question

I traded a Liliana of the veil for the B/W Sorin from that set. They were the same price at the time...

My friend used a dark depths as a proxy by writing on the back of it with a magic marker back when it was a bargain bin rare.

>>55230273
At 63 cards?

>>55230354
At that point stop at 62 and add Primal Surge for the hell of it.

>>55230273
Your goal is to empty your deck of elves, cast Concordant Crossroads and buff everyone for lethal with Craterhoof or Helix Pinnacle for 100.

How do you guys feel about people conceding mid game? Friend 1 was upset at Friend 2 for conceding before I could finish him off. His thought process being that had Friend 2 stayed for a few more turns, he could have gotten the upper hand before I could turn my attention to him.

>>55230618
Friend 1 should have provided an incentive for 2 to stay in the game then.

>>55230618
You're a bitch if you concede in a multiplayer game and it's not entirely obvious that the player you're conceding to could beat every other player turn by turn.

So, yes, I would call Friend 2 a bitch.

>>55230618
At the end of the day I don't want to have to be draw > go as I look down at my anemic board while everyone else has their fun 5 minute turns either.
The only time you shouldn't be allowed to scoop it up is if your actions by doing so directly influence the boardstate, such as in response to a lethal swing full of lifelinkers.

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>>55230660
>>55230667
>we roll dice to see who goes first
>I go last
>first player goes "scorching desert, target anon, pass"
>I'm absolutely stunned
>I go down to 39 life before it's even my turn
>he doesn't even apologize
I haven't even had one turn, so it was impossible for me to interact with the trigger. If he let me just play one island I could have stifled the trigger and still been at 40 life. Instead he targets me out of pure spite. We all talked about it and it was pretty clear that he only wanted me to be at 39 life so that I wouldn't win. He was going all on about how he is perfectly allowed to scorch me, but he didn't even think for a second about how I felt about it. It would have been infinitely preferable if he gave me just one turn to get up stifle mana or find a way to gain some life. Instead he tries to act like just because the game lets him do something that its ok and my feelings don't matter. We all agreed that targeting me was unnecessarily spiteful considering he had another land in hand he could play, or he could have mulliganed to a hand that had less hateful cards. We all agreed to just play as if I was at 40.

What I don't get is how people like him think its a good idea to play like that with regular playgroups. You know that by hitting me with scorching desert, it's just going to make me bring out my five color stonerain.dek and completely remove his ability to play next game. Since then we have houseruled that you're not allowed to hurt others players if they don't have a way to interact with it. Our players that have some social awareness and aren't completely autistic have all agreed with this rule and it has done a great job of weeding out the players that have offensive personality traits, such as having skin any thicker than plastic food wrap.

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>>55230806
That has absolutely nothing to do with that I was talking about you fucking memer.

>>55230806
I would've leaped over the table, snapped open his neck, and made him choke on the sands of that Sunscorched Desert

>>55230818
It has absolutely everything to do with you, friendo. Maybe you'll realize that.

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>>55230806

>>55230655
This is the correct answer. Friend 1 should look inward and think about how he could've spent his resources better to prevent that board state rather than blame someone else for not doing exactly what he needed to undo his losing situation.

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friendly reminder

>>55230920
I don't think >>55230655 was implying hindsight incentive, but rather immediate.
Maybe I misunderstood.

>>55230936
Not at my lgs :^)

I posted this in a thread a few days ago, but I need suggestions for a janky Ramos/Cascade deck I'm working on.

Got shit like Maelstrom Nexus, Wanderer and Archangel, Conflux, Progenitus, Yidris and a few other cards. And I got Deadeye Navigator and Eldrazi Displacer so I can blink Ramos so he can keep using his ability. Not looking to win games but cause big things to happen out of seemingly nowhere.

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>>55230936
>tfw you were Harmless Offering'd a Platinum Angel and now can't concede

>>55230949
I wasn't trying to say that. I was trying to convey that if Friend 1 can't supply a good enough incentive for Friend 2 to stay in the game then maybe he should think about how he played his cards this past game and reflect where he could've played better. Sorry if that got lost in translation.

>>55230981
Try Charms.dec maybe. Those seem like a real good way to rack up Ramos counters and get shit done.

>>55230991
Gotcha. That makes more sense.

I just find it a little bothersome when Friend 2 concedes during the combat step because they were about to get swung on, but then leave, allowing Friend 1 to then swing all on me instead.
Ya feel?

>>55230982
104.3a is the super-rule. It overrides any other rule specifically for that reason, to prevent donated Platinum Angels, Abyssal Persecutors, etc. from trapping people in the game. It prevents IRL abuse, though leaving a few gaps for in game abuse.

>>55231019
is joke

I'm glad there's an anon out there with enough brains to cite actual rule numbers, though.

>>55231037
Funny thing is that I actually disagree with the way the rules work currently. I understand that it's legal, but I think it's a scummy thing to do to scoop to deny someone else a win, and that it should be discouraged.

>>55226605
As if Merfolk need even more shit

>>55231014

I just realized Jund Charm can charge Ramos all on its own for three mana. Thanks for the suggestion.

>>55231019

...Did someone try to hold someone hostage with a Magic game?

>"You can't just concede and walk away! That's breaking the rules! You'll lose!"

>>55231131
>"You can't just concede and walk away! That's breaking the rules! You'll lose!"
That made me laugh harder than I should have.

>>55231131
We brewed up with C17. GAAIV Fractured Identity on a Platinum Angel with about a dozen prison effects on the board. We scooped. He didn't like that.

>>55230904
who's that semen demon

>>55231082
staying in the game likewise gives the other players the advantage of a couple turns to perhaps put up a fight against the player killing your
you're helping someone either way

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So how many other people got suckered into building/runnig Wasitora solely because of the adorable tokens?

>>55231606
Not yet, but I love her and them.

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>buy cat deck
>draw Bloodforged Battle Axe
>don't think much of it
>read it more and see what it does
>have 6 axes out at once
>too much axes to even equip at one point
>Unlimited Axe Works my friend
>mfw

Holy fuck this card is so fun

>>55231449
One of the fairies from Amagi Brilliant Park.

>>55231633
Unlimited Axe Works + Grinding Station or Blasting Station or some other thing powered by sacrifices. Unlimited Jank Works.

>Trostani
>Saltskitter
>keep healing for 4 every turn and nobody can dare to stop me
Hahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55230981
Gods speed anon, im hoping to make a ramos cascade brew at some point. Door to nothingness and progenitus in one deck is just sexy

>>55231932
You're a silly bitch, first deck Wurm anon. I am glad it is working out.

>throw together a mairsil deck using cards i think will work well
>100% competitive

excuse me?
Someone post the Mairsil image. You know which one.

>>55230273
Do what I do since I'm a bit lazy. Go to the list of recent decks (and maybe more than that by browsing tappedout) and pick out cards you like till you have a list of cards that you can start shrinking down.

>>55232058
Tappedout is bugged out and every deck is 100% competitive

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>>55232058

Other than Docent of Perfection and Talrand, what blue or red creatures can repeatedly generate flying tokens?
I'm looking to add a bit of redundancy to my Locust God deck so that it isn't entirely dependent on it's general to win.

>>55232173
Dragonmaster outcast?

>>55232173
Meloku, the Clouded Mirror, Utvara Hellkite, Sharding Sphinx, Aerie Worshippers.

Can I get input on how to start a King Macar deck?
I can tell he's definitely below par on power level but I traded for a foil of him recently and want to use it well.
Would I focus on frying any of their defense and killing through commander damage or just any damage?
What cards scale well with the raw number of tokens I could generate?

>>55232173
Retracing Call the Skybreaker. Drake Haven. Meloku. Pentavus. Sharding sphinx. Whirlermaker. Wand of the Elements.

>>55232363
Put vehicles in the deck. Play loud eurobeat music from the moment you pull it out of the deckbox to the moment the game ends.

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>>55232363
Tokens? Oh, like gold tokens.

The king got a lot better with vehicles. Before your tap shit was much more complicated. As for win conditions, the skies the limit as it is monoblack with your general being just removal.

Putting gold to extra use can be done with Inspiring Statuary, pic related and other colorless artifact sac things.

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Karlov or gitrog?

>>55232554
Orzhov forever, anon. I only wish Karlov had the Orzhov watermark and came in foil.

>>55232554
Can you run this bad girl in Gitfrog? Didn't think so.

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>>55232708
Fuck.

>>55232629
there is no way to get him in foil? gay..

What's the most tryhard budget deck you can make?

>>55232889
Ezuri Elfball without Cradle for like $80.
Don't think there's anything close to that power level that costs less.

>>55232930
Anything that won't make everyone hate me?

>>55232629
I get the feeling that next time we go back to Ravnica they're very likely to do Masterpiece Series: Guild Members, including the ones printed in C15. Ravnica is one of the only planes that has enough native Legendary creatures to support that as a theme, alongside Dominaria and Kamigawa, especially since they'd be printing another batch of candidates in the block.

Imagine Karlov or Teysa 1.0.

Is there any commander that would play similarly to Havengul Lich? If it was legendary, I'd build around it because I love the effect and art so much (and lichs in general are GOAT); but sadly it's not legendary, and my friends all assume that if I want to use a nonlegendary as commander, its to do a degenerate combo (despite the fact that I do degenerate combos just fine with legendary commanders, and those only account for a small portion of the decks I build.)

>>55232980
>tryhard
>not getting hated
Organize your ideas.

>>55233039
I can't help it, I want to be a hipster and win.

>>55232889
Spymaster of Trest flying men/unblockable is SORT of tribal, if you don't care about stretching the definition.

Reposting:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-
decks/avacyn-is-best-angel/

Looking forward to buying the cards for this, but I am worried that I don't have enough tutors. At one point it had tamiyo's journal. Should I put it back?This isn't some high level competitive deck, it's mostly a break from combo-control, but I still want it to function.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>>55233028

well sedris is kinda like the casting from the yard part, as is gisa and geralf. and then kraj and mairsil are like the activated ability stealing part

>>55233087
I like Mairsil and Sedris. Are they expensive to build?

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>>55233028
If you have the cards that let you put something in your graveyard on the bottom of your library, Grenzo could kind of play out similarly.

Is there any way to get Grimlock, Dinobot Leader without going to hascon? Like ordering it online etc? I live in New Zealand and can't go but want to make a dinosaur edh deck with him

>>55233114
Grenzo looks pretty fun. But don't people assume Grenzo = degenrate Doomsday shenanigans?
Also, those cards would be Epitaph Golem, Reito Lantern, Crystal Ball, Junktroller, and Tel-Jilad Stylus, right?

>>55233103

Up to you how much money you want to spend, 3 color mana bases are a tad inconsistent on a budget though

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This one caught my eye, it's not often you see green messing positively with artifacts.

Anyone have any dank combos or synergies that come to mind?

>>55233161
Everyone I play with runs on budget mana bases too, and one of them exclusively runs 5-color commanders with no shocks, fetches, tangos, scars, or ABURs.

>>55233124
Something like this might be your best bet.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hascon-Exclusive-Magic-the-Gathering-set-of-3-cards-PREORDER-Hasbro-MISB-MIB-/253132803502?hash=item3aefe40dae:g:TdQAAOSwACZZq4Cd

Grimlock seems like essentially the chase card, specifically because of people such as yourself, so if you wait for the promos to be released, he could be as much or more than the preorders for the whole set.

>>55233139
And Canal Dredger.
Soldevi Digger too, technically, but it takes a bit more effort.

>>55233175

That just seems very difficult, does he get mana screwed a lot?

>>55233216
His decks are primarily green, with 3-4 copies of each basic land and lots of cards like Cultivate and Rampant Growth.

>>55233201
>Soldevi Digger
I can finally show them that "grave order matters" cards actually exist.

>>55227144
make sure you can get high market/phyrexian tower/ashnods altar or such and protect them once he's out. Look at your meta to know how dangerous it might be to leave him open to damage.

>>55227333
nah you can definitely also play him as classic draw-go control; just the fact that he doubles all your counters and removal is insane. My old dralnu deck got it done with Time Warp/Stretch, urborg/coffers and flashbacked exsanguinates for lots.
Storm is just the most competitive way to build him, maybe.

>>55233028
scarab god, sort of? i assume you knew about him though

>>55227328
IMO that doesn't make him better. Kess is one mana cheaper, has a superior version of flashback (works with buyback and other similar effects), and offers you a better color identity.

>>55233170
She's great in Trostani's 99

>>55227825
It means that each creature that could've been declared as an attacker but weren't are destroyed

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>deck-tuning Boros
>last three cards to add are Neheb 2.0, Grenzo 2.0, and Aggravated Assault
>already got rid of Sigarda's Aid
>can't decide
The fun is so close and yet so far

>>55233181
SWeet but as much as I want it I'm not keen to spend $237 on essentially one card.. don't give a fuck about the other ones thanks tho

>>55233422
>Scarab God
Oh, wow. I've been out of the loop for the past few sets. Hope he's not too expensive to build.

>>55233690
As with all Dimir decks, mill is fun, inexpensive, and terrible.

>>55233690
>>55233422
i thought scarab god was dick awful compared to his brothers?

>>55233712
You're thinking of Scorpion God

>>55233682
Nobody seems to be doing preorders for the singles, unfortunately, so it's hard to predict how much it'll run you to buy Grimlock himself later. Good luck, hope you can get one for a good price somehow.

>>55233732
Thanx <3

>>55233712
That's Scorpion God.

>>55233690
Build him as mill-control, big mill cards, loads of counterspells, boardwipes and removal and training grounds to steal other people's creatures from their graveyard for only UB

>>55233707
Why would I run him as mill when I could run him as reanimator/ETB value? Also, do you think he'll drop in price? $17 for one card seems a bit too much for a game I'm not too invested in, play rarely, and have practically no community for.

>>55233741
>Training Grounds
I had a playset of that card. Sold them off last week when I found out that they had spiked so high.

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>>55233748
Reanimator decks get boring after a while.
Zombie tribal never gets old.

>>55233748
>Why would I run him as mill
Because as>>55233741 said you do it to "steal" your opponent's stuff. Also eldrazi processors are really good with him.

>>55233770
I'm not talking about "mill a wincon, plop it back to the field" reanimator, I'm talking "run a bunch of interesting value creatures, reanimate them for further value". And I used to play Zombie tribal. It got old very fast. Only tribal I've really enjoyed is Inalla.

who's your favorite draw-go control commander?

>>55233794
Mizzix. Once you get the experience counters up to 3, Buyback costs for most Buyback spells are essentially free, meaning you'll have plenty of resources to keep protecting yourself and stalling until you can storm off.

>>55232930
is there a card in elfball that will let me cast a hurricane for 40 without killing myself?

>>55233837
Platinum Emperion

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>>55233837
Shouldn't be too hard to get if you play things like Crop Rotation.

What's Elfball?
>inb4 newfag
>inb4 get out casul
>inb4 gb2ygo

>>55233837
If you have enough Elves to cast Hurricane for 40 you have enough Elves for Wellwisher to gain you a bunch of life and put you off danger.

>>55233876
>>55233894
thanks. do you know if there are any insta win combos or infinite mana combos in ezuri?

>>55233903
Elf Snowball.
Any deck that seeks to play a shitload of elves and win in one attack through Overrun effects, usually through a Natural Order tutored Craterhoof Behemoth.

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>>55233903
shit out a bunch of mana dorks (creatures that tap for mana, typically elves), make a shit load of mana, use that mana for a blow-out play (such as Fireball X = 80)

>>55233918
That sounds pretty fun. I saw earlier in the thread that it could be built for <$80. Is Craterhoof important, or could it be cut for budget replacements, too?

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>>55233929
its an amazing creature, usually wins you the game upon resolution with an All-Out-Attack but having multiple options is what any good deck would desire. A non-combat variant could be this

>>55233948
That and Hurricane, with some way of turboboosting my life could be fun.

>>55233914
>Priest of Titania/Elvish Archdruid + 3 other elves + Umbral Mantle = infinite G and 1 infinitely large elf
>Viridian Joiner + Umbral Mantle + 2 mana = infinite mana
>Elvish Guidance + Wirewood Lodge + Argothian Elder = infinite mana
>Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest = infinite tokens
>Seeker of Skybreak + Illusionist's Bracers + Mana Dork = infinite mana

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>>55233929
other variants that use massive buffs to turn your little elves into lethal unblockable/trampling hitters

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>>55233914
>infinite mana combos in elves

So many.

>>55233984
So it's a highly modular combo deck that can be built for cheap, is entirely flavorful, and has generally high-quality artwork? That sounds amazing! What are some important cards for me to look for?

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>>55233929
Be aware, arguably the best Green Legendary Creature for this strat, Rofellos, is banned in commander.

>>55234008
Understandable. That effect could get out of hand quickly.

>>55233983
>>55233988
is there a way of winning on the spot without having to go through combat?

>>55234032
direct damage spells
see>>55233948

>>55234008
>guaranteed 6 mana on turn 3

yeah wonder why.

>>55233929
At it's absolute best the deck goes for $500 or so just because Gaea's Cradle costs $300.
Take out Cradle, Natural Order and Craterhoof Behemoth, Umezawa's Jitte, Planeswalkers and Sensei's Divining Top and you still have a great deck for $80-$100 depending on the edition and condition of the cards.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-12-16-ezuri/
I built this list for $95 or something because I got most of it in the Freyalise pre-release for $35.

>play black/white/blue
>get shit on by green

do i need to swap up? change to green myself? green faggots always running big boy with trample dick me over

>>55234039
read that as soon as I posted. thanks!

>>55234052
How important are Nykthos, Sylvan Library, Song of the Dryads, Thousand-Year Elixir, and Door of Destinies?

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>>55234077
>they drop a big boy
>"thanks kid"

doesn't even have to be merieke, you can do the same with things like Gonti, Control Magic, or Treachery

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>>55234087
Nykthos can come in handy

>>55227626

Post list.

>>55234077
>dictate of erebos
>gravepact
>no mercy
>cyclonic rift
>wrath of god
>damnation
>evacuation
>propaganda
>ghostly prison
>sphere of safety

do you want me to keep going?

>>55234106
I just don't quite feel comfortable paying so much for a single card. I don't have many people to play against, and only play 2-3 times a month, anyways. It'd be nice (I like monocolor decks), but it's a bit pricey.

>>55234130
no worries, one cool thing about this format is that even hyper-tuned mana bases (especially in monoColor) aren't exceedingly more powerful than just average budget options.

>>55234153
That's good to know. Also, I'll be moving state in about a year or two, and the LGSes near where my wife and I are moving might actually have friendly players and a community that accepts newcomers (although I doubt that; given that out of 12 LGSes I've been too, all of the Magic communities have been the same).

>>55234087
>Nykthos
Very high
>Sylvan Library
High
>Song of the Dryads
Medium
>Thousand-Year Elixir
Low
>Door of Destinies
Medium

I recomend you get all the Elves and instant/sorceries first since it'll be playable at that point. Then if you really like the deck get the lands, then the artifacts, then the planeswalkers, then the enchantments. Then if you're in love get Natural Order, Craterhoof Behemoth, Staff of Domination, Wordly Tutor and Exploration.
Then if you win the lotto and/or don't give a shit about spending next-gen console money on a piece of cardboard, get Gaea's Cradle.

>>55234177
Alright. I'll look at my LGS this week.

>>55234087
not him but those are all pretty good. ranked in best to worst order i'd do it like this

>thousand-year elixir
most of your elves have activated abilities and getting to use them right after you draw them can be invaluable

>nykthos
can potentially give you a shiton of mana at the very low cost of one land. note that there are elves and other effects that can untap it

>sylvan library
card draw is just really important but there are other ways of drawing cards. I wouldnt say its essential but its still really really good if you have it.

>song of the dryads
green has trouble removing creatures and this is one of its ways for dealing with them. usually your elves will be bigger than most creatures when it matters though.

>door of destinies
can get out of hand quickly with all of your elves costing so little. Ezuri has an overrun effect on it and you have a bunch of elf lords so it might be winmore. plus might draw hate if you dont kill everyone on the spot with it.

>>55227144
Don't let Kessfags get you down, Dralnu is superior for making an actually interesting storm deck rather than just goodstuff.grixis.
The B/U storm/control shell also allows for alternatives to just Tendrils to death, such as the various Lab man wins available.

>>55234213
So out of those pricier cards, TYE is top priority, and Nykthos is amazing, but everything else has cheaper alternatives?

>>55234130
dont look at it like paying $6 for a single card. look at it more like paying $100 for a deck that you will always have to play with. those cards are really good but if you dont get them then its ok.

>>55234231

How is dralnu more interesting? Because he has a "you lose the game" drawback? Because he's yet another thing that combos with paradox engine?

Dralnu is gay as fuck and has shit design. Fuck him for stealing Phyrexian negator's thing

>>55234234
Pretty much yes.

>>55234234

I think sylvan library is more important than either of those actually

>>55226098
Worst mistake I've made in a game
>player has a card that forces everyone to sac a creature during upkeep
>another player has a card that bounces cards to my hand unless I pay 1
>I draw into a card I just bought and my inner Timmy is unleashed
>tap myself out to play it
>with two creatures on the board
If I didn't cock that up I could have taken out another player before he got his combo off. Such is life when you're a timmy in denial

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Do I build him?

>>55234241
Even still, why would I pay $100 for a deck I'll rarely get to use, when I could pay $50 for that deck and save that other $50 towards some other game I play more?

>>55234234
I wouldnt say Sylvan Library has really an alternative. its a pretty unique effect for green. but for $15 and all the other card draw that green has I wouldnt say is really essential. Beast Within is the best green removal spell but other than that green doesnt have a way to deal with creatures other than through combat, hence you want redundancy with song of the dryads (plus I think there are a couple of elves that give everything forestwalk) but as I said, you really can avoid interaction and just stomp whoever if giving you trouble with their creatures with one big attack. Door of Destinies is a good anthem affect but your commander already has one and your elves make a bunch of mana so its not really necessary imo.

>>55234321
because winning is fun

>>55234130
Nykthos is a very good card. Paying some money for cards that are powerful and functional is good, because they're not likely to lose much in the way of value over time and there will be a reasonable demand for them. If you ever really need the money, you shouldn't have too much trouble cashing out and with some cards you may even make some amount of profit if they've risen over time. Nykthos is a fairly special card, meaning it's not likely for it to be reprinted often.

You don't have to go wild, but don't be afraid to sink a little money into cards when appropriate.

>>55234350
Won't most players see that as being a tryhard netdecker asshole, though? Using a "competitive" card?

>>55234359
Almost everyone has "competitive" cards to some extent. People would have to be almost literally playing Craw Wurm for there not to be something comparable in their decks.

>>55234359
I think a $100 ezuri deck is very far away from the definition of a tryhard asshole in the mtg community. I mean, there are people who play $4k stax decks

>>55234359
Non-neurotic playgroups would say that about stuff like Mana Crypt, Force of Will, Jace the Mind Sculptor, Liliana of the Veil and other $50+ cards. Not Nykthos.

>>55234359
Take a look at the price of Gaea's Cradle.
That's what a tryhard competitive card looks like.

>>55234385
The people at the LGS called me a tryhard netdecker and implicitly told me to quit playing for running Capsize, High Tide, and Peregrine Drake in my Mizzix deck, even though one of them had Chains of Mephistopheles. Another LGS called me an asshole for running Rite of Replication at all. Have I just had bad experiences with LGSes, or am I missing something?

>>55234411
Nah, you were just playing with assholes.

>>55234318
only if you slide to the left

>>55234411
You pointed it out yourself there. There's not any real definition to what a "tryhard" card is so some people will call fucking anything "tryhard" if they're salty enough, regardless of how hypocritical it might be.

At that point, it isn't worth worrying about what kind of cards those people would get upset about.

>>55234411
im sorry anon but I think youve had terrible luck.

>>55234411
At certain point you gotta tell people to stop being bitches.
Capsize is like 50 cents.

>>55234411
what deck were you running with rite of replication? was it an instawin combo? it might be more the type of strategy that your playing rather than the cards. I know mizzix is fucking degenerate because I built it

>>55234417
>>55234439
>>55234435
That makes me feel a little better - but only a little. Aside from a couple friends of mine, I don't have anyone else to play Magic with, and the LGS in question is the least cancerous one in terms of Magic community for a long ways out.

>>55234466
Even if I did, I'd be the minority there - the community is very cliquish, and even the store owner is in on it.

>>55234485
I ran it as tech in Mizzix. The few creatures I ran had ETB effects, and there are quite a few situations where I can close out a game with it by cloning an opponent's card. A friend of mine runs RG Omnath and Dragon Tribal, I've RoR'd both Omnath and Scourge of Valkas for huge damage.

>>55234330

Green actually has a fair amount of playable fight cards, notably prey upon is pretty underrated

Not great for elves though

>>55234525
yeah I think its probably more the fact that you could do that with two blue mana rather than the card itself. not saying its your fault though

>>55234572
I remember a couple of the decks people there ran:
>Gonti goodstuff
>Szadek mill
>Mayael, guy called himself an "ultra-Timmy"

>>55234557
>a fair amount

I'm only really seeing Ulvenwald Tracker and maybe Prey Upon.

Ezuri's Predation is more of a sweeper than a "fight" card, but I guess it could count too.

>>55234610
Savage Punch and Epic Confrontation

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>>55234619
>2 mana sorceries

>>55234645
Better than no removal.

>>55234660
I'd rather be playing things like Beast Within, Lignify, or Song of the Dryad.

Preparing for pirate tribal, decided all my removal will be fall based. Fatal push, walk the plank, tragic slip, etc. what are some more fall or accident themed removal spells?

>>55234854
Capsize

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>>55234419
what did he mean by this?

>>55234864
Solid hadnt thought of that, thanks

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>>55234854
If you're really, really dedicated to the theme.

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>>55234854
May or may not count depending on how strict you are.

>>55234887
Fiery Fall
Rise // Fall
Not removal, but Mercadia's Downfall could work too thematically

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>>55234854

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>>55234854
Technically tumble?

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>>55234854

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>>55234854
Fatal Plunge is a ritual you might want

Into the Core's flavor text indicates that the juggernauts are being led into an incineration pit

PIC RELATED

Spicy guys, thanks a bunch

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Is this a winmore card? 6 mana no immediate effects. I'll be running it with doubling season if that makes a difference

>>55229112
Isn't the online one for duel commander?

I want to make a fully colorless eldrazi deck. Possible or nah?

Also, if I cast say, Sudden Spoiling on a Blight steel Collosus, does it's enter the graveyard trigger still occur or nah?

>>55235536
>Also, if I cast say, Sudden Spoiling on a Blight steel Collosus, does it's enter the graveyard trigger still occur or nah?

it uses last known information, it was a 0/2 without any abilities when it dies

>>55235575
Nice. I play a few people with some blightsteels every now and then and it can sometimes be a pain to deal with.

>>55235511
I think it depends on the deck and the playgroup powerlevel, because that card is both weak and needs a lot of card support to be worth spending a turn doing nothing but casting it.

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>>55233903
Using a lot of elves like Llanowar Elves that can produce mana and then spending that mana to cast big Fireballs. It's an old green/red deck.

>>55235511
Running Primeval Bounty because it works with Doubling Season is like running Storm Crow because it works with Moat i.e. fucking stupid

>>55235536
It's a replacement effect, but yeah, it doesn't happen, since the effect is lost. It's the only way to get Blightsteel to the gy

>>55234728
>>55234610
The dragon isn't bad.

>>55236042
It's not particularly better than Duplicant.
Only killing an X/4 without additional setup isn't amazing. Maybe if it were repeatable.

>>55236089
Fair. I did end up cutting him from Monogreen. I run Ulvenwald and Arena as my fight cards in monogreen. Fun with Rhonas and Bow of Nylea.

Monstrous Onslaught is a new card that I think is worth running, but I haven't tried it yet.

>>55235956
Is the card really that bad?

>>55236113
It's strange to run such a low power card in the same deck as such a high power card is all I'm saying

>>55236160
Admittedly, the power level gap between Storm Crow and Moat is much larger than between Doubling Season and Primeval Bounty. Storm Crow deserves to be banned.

>>55234252
>Negator
Surely you mean Lich

>>55227144
Reins of Power the first fucker that tries to Blasphemous Act you. Taste their salty tears.