Did you know that all pirate captains in the Ixalan set are female?

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>>55193247
What?

>>55193247
Did you just assume their gender, shitlord?

Yeah, suspension of disbelief can only take you so far.
In Wind Waker, the idea of a little girl being a pirate captain was cute and silly, and ultimately more believable just given the kind of guys the pirates were.
Actual fucking pirates in gritty grimdark fantasy land? Fuck off. She'd be mutinied and raped to death as soon as the boat was well away from any passing patrol ships.

>>55193247
They are objects to be used up in a game. Not exactly feminist no matter what they do. :p

who even cares the pirates suck

>>55193247
All legendary ones are female.
>>55193522
Dubs confirms.

>>55193542
>All legendary ones are female.
Looks like we're getting a male Planeswalker Pirate though.
Captain Angrath, who for some reason can't leave the plane.

>>55193542
>All legendary ones are female.
We've seen two legendary ones this far, right? The mono red and the granny. There is gonna be at least one more. Also Jace is on the pirate side and male.

>>55193247
No, just the vast majority (for now as they only showed a few cards) of cards have more females in the foreground than males

> tfw no LeChuck

>>55193564
Is going to be a minotaur, mark my words

>tahngarth

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>>55193590
>Minotaur Pirate Captain Planeswalker

>>55193577
Links please, I'll do a count of males vs. female.

>>55193629
Not him but http://mythicspoiler.com/. I only count 3 more females than males. btw, the fat fuck is a female

>>55193247

OP posts answer in image threads are getting pretty good.

>>55193577
Count of character in foreground by sex for cards featuring pirates.

>Jace, Cunning Castaway
1 Male
>Rowdy Crew
3 Males, 2 Females
>Boneyard Parley
1 Male
>Revel in Riches
1 Female
>Captain lannery Storm
1 Female
>Deadeye Tracker
1 Male
>Fathom Fleet Captain
2 Males
>Angarth's Marauders
1 Female
>Arcane Adaptation
1 Male
>Ruin Raider
1 Male
>Vraska;s Contempt
1 Female
>Daring Saboteur
1 Female
>Unfriendly Fire
2 Males
>Walk the Plank
1 Male
>Prosperous Pirates
1 Male, 1 Female
>Deadeye Tormentor
1 Male
>Marauding Looter
1 Male, 1 Female
>Dire Fleet Captain
3 Male
>Admiral Beckett Brass
1 Female
>Hostage Tacker
1 Female

>Total
19 Males, 11 Females

Sadly, I'm pretty sure everyone would be less mad if we made them all female or all male.

There'd also be more porn.

>>55193771
>11 females

LOOK HOW MANY THERE ARE IT'S LIKE 40% WotC IS BEING TAKEN OVER BY SJWs

>>55193564
No one can leave the plane

>>55193247
Some random non-legendary dude that looks more like a cabin boy than a captain doesn't disprove this. All the important pirates in Ixalan are women.

>>55193807
>They were talking about pirate captains
Ok fair, then it's 2 and 2. Both the non legendary captains are male.

>you even posted vampire and sun empire cards
Which were the vampire and sun empire cards from my list? I discluded all the vampires and sun empire. If I missed any I'll take them off and adjust the count.

>>55193247
The twist will be that all the captains are transexuals.
thats why the plane will be destroy with a meteorite

>>55193771
>19 males
This is pretty problematic

>pirates and dinosaurs

Who even fucking cares, its like a 12 years old redditor made this set. All it needs is ninjas to be 100% totes randum lol xd

>>55193807
>deleted even though he's right

What did the janitors mean by this?

>>55193819
Shipwreck plane.
Neat.

>>55193771
>Unfriendly Fire
>2 males
the one with a hat looks female
>Marauding looter
>1 male, 1 female
One is a vampire, not a pirate though
>Not posting sorcerous spyglass

You know, I didn't used to enjoy the tears of fat nerds but now I am starting to develop a taste for them. Thanks /tg/!

>>55193542
The grixis one is a fat white man

>>55193247
>Make all females Amish prudes, even in a desert setting
>Make Jace a sexy shirtless Twinkboy for no reason at all.

What did they mean by that? Sexism much?

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>>55193952
The grixis one is a grandma. That's the point. She's like Dola meets Queen Victoria.

>>55193880
>sorcerous spyglass
Missed that one.

>>55193771
Adjusted Count

>Total
17 Males, 13 Females

So four more men than woman, or 43.3% Female, 56.6% Male.

>>55194017
I am wrong again, I forgot "Ogre Hand Ravager", who is shirtless so assumed male.

18 Male, 13 Female for 58% Male, 42% Female.

>>55194045
I can't stop being wrong, Dreamcaller Siren is a pirate and male.

19 Male, 13 Female for 59.3% Male and 40.7% Female.

>>55194045
>Ogre Hand Ravager
I can't see shit in the card, do you have a better quality one?

>>55194101
>Siren
>Male
What the shit?

Also, strange, vampires are more diverse, 4vs4 so far

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>>55194120
Neither the facial features, clothing, nor figure look male. I was confused as well.

>>55194103
This is the best I have, but I can see he is shirtless and has a beard.

I love this. Someone is taking the original idea, disproving it, with a simple study and all the /pol - tards come out like "Oh yeah? Well what did Obama ever do that was so great?" Fuckin kek

>>55194151
It's great, in a previous thread a dude posted all the human cards in Amonkhet to prove that the majority were black and not Arab looking. The same was done with Theros to prove the majority were black and not mediterranean looking.

But I think we have to wait till they release all cards from Ixalan.

There are a handful of famous female pirates in real life anyway. I don't mind.

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>>55194147
Not saying you're wrong, but just because you're shirtless doesn't mean you're male

>>55194170
Link thread, please. I can't find it anywhere in the past few months on plebs. I'm curious.

>>55193289

How do you know xe isn't a shitlady, shitxer?

>>55193587
Don't presume that anybody working at Wizards has any taste.

Like, think about their literature intake that was necessary for Theros (Greek mythology) and Kaladesh (India and Dwarfs and Steampunk). Do you think any of them did any deep rooted research into any of those topics? They just stole Gandhi's name (Gonti), it's just the most worthless and lowest-common-denominator wink at an audience that is equally retarded.

We are in the Mayan dinosaur pirate block now. How much of that shit do you think is going to be an interesting take on those themes? Because it's looking to be feathered armor, big lizards, and eyepatches, bandanas, and treasure stereotypes all the way through.

>>55193342
the pirates in Ixalan are what remains of a civilization escaping from vampire Spaniards
in such cases one would imagine those guys have equals chances of harboring cookie baking grandmas as cuthroat murderers and entreprenurial corsairs

>>55193819
I thought it was just PWs?
Though to be fair they are the only ones who could easily leave anyways
But Angrath specifically being mentioned that he can't leave makes you wonder if he would normally have the ability to do so..

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>>55194299
If your civilization is on the brink of destruction for many generations, nobody surviving probably even remembers what a cookie is.

BUT I GUESS MODERN WIZARDS KNOWS BETTER THAN ITS PAST SELF

>>55194385
It isn't many generations, their societal collapse happened within Granny's lifetime.

>>55194218
Not in the archive anymore it seems

>>55193522
This. Fuck pirates and dinosaurs.

>>55194170
>>55194405
That's interesting, because a cursory look over the 71 human cards of Theros makes me think that there's only 6 cards with the human subtype which can definitely be considered black in that entire block. How interesting.

>>55194445
Therere more cards than just creatures, anon.

>>55194478
>a dude posted all the human cards in Amonkhet to prove that the majority were black and not Arab looking. The same was done with Theros
>all the human cards

Are you moving the goal posts?

>>55194445
>Agent of the fates
>Soldier of the pantheon
>Meletis charlatan
>Curse of the swine
>Chained to the rocks
>Ordeal of nylea
>Phalanx leader
>Tormented hero
>Arena athlete
And I'm not even in the first half of the first expansion

>>55194488
Yeah, wrong use of adjective, cards with humans.

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>>55193342
Pic related is probably the most successful pirate lord to have existed in real life.

>>55194532
A quarter of those look Mediterranean rather than black to me. I can't see any negroid features in them at all.

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>>55194576
>I can't see any negroid features in them at all.
Whitest dude you'll ever see

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>>55193577
>>55193771

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>>55194587
Srly, he reflects 100% of light

>>55194442
Dont you fucking dare to say anything against the dinos

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>>55194601
I mean, I almost thought she was norse

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>>55194442
>and dinosaurs

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He could play Johnny Storm in a new 4F movie

>>55194587
I am clearly referring to the quarter of them which look Mediterranean to me rather than black. Study some reading comprehension, it's good for you.

But sure, keep going. Let's gather a list of all of the cards in the Theros black that you, with your standards of whiteness, consider black. Then we can compare that to all of the other cards that feature humans.

Let's do this.

>>55194618
Well if the entire plane is greece themed wouldn't people closer to the equator be black and greek?

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>>55194629

>>55194640
Spain is even closer to the ecuator and they aren't black

>>55194681
That guy actually looks Greek.

Just looking at the Art of MtG page for Theros, I can immediately see that there's more whites. Stop being a baby.

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>>55194713
The greekest

>>55194666
Ever heard of moors?

Keep going. Let's see all of the blacks you can identify, then we'll see how many cards feature humans that aren't black and compare the numbers.

>>55194756
Moors are from morocco you imbecile

>>55194756
North African people that aren't Black? yeah, I heard of them. Also they weren't from Spain

>>55194247
The religions of the Sun Empire and Legion of Dusk are pretyy well developed culturally
The head writer has a masters in Theology and used to be a pastor

>>55194796
As a person in academia, I no longer blindly take educational credentials as evidence of being creative or interesting.

The proof will be in the pudding so we shall see.

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>>55194713
Greeks weren't black and neither were Egyptians you donut.
I wouldn't give a shit if they were but you should get your facts straight.

Modern Egyptians share even more of there genome with Africans than ancient Egyptians and they don't look black either.
This was proven with the first successful genome test on an ancient mummies and they came back being closest to other middle eastern races NOT Africans.

>>55194757
Karametra's Acolyte
Favored Hoplite
Sip of Hemlock
Traveling Philosopher
Scholar of Athreos
Setessan Battle Priest
Wingsteed Rider
Omenspeaker

And these just in the first expansion, way more than those 6 you mentioned in the whole set

>>55193247
But the Fathom Fleet Captain is a dude?

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>>55194899
Wait, I forgot about this girl. Clearly Greek

>>55194915
Not after im done with him

>>55194929
She looks Greek to me.

>>55193572
Jace is with the Merfolk

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>>55194989
>literally on a boat
>"he's with the merfolk"
what did he mean by this?

Imagine having a life so devoid of meaning or excitement that you have to get upset at the depictions of people from a fictional plane of existence in a children's card game

I'll never understand why a real world theme needs to be paired with the skin colors in that real world place. If skin color breaks your immersion in magic that bad then you're a fucking autist

I don't watch porn with black guys because of muh immersion

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If we get an african theme set we will complain about it having to much black people on it?

>>55194929
the dreadlocks are what bother me the most

aren't greeks all about that swarthy and curly hair

>>55195024
His planeswalker deck's cards.

>>55195049
>if we get
We already got that, you're too young to remember

>>55195024
There is a merfolk card in the PW deck that synergizes with a jace planeswalker, I personally don't think that's enough proof but it's likely he could float between the blue factions of pirates and merfolk in the story.
Has anywhere mentioned the pirate leaders are all working together even?

>>55195049
>where my rhodesia at
>why don't they have apartheid
>COLONIZED

>>55195049
No, since they fucking belong there. People will probably complain about there being too many women in positions of power though
Also, Mirage block doesn't exist

>>55195049
In Kamigawa nobody complained about the lack of white people. Though SJW complain about the lack of black people everytime you bring the lack of whiteness in kamigawa

>>55195049
/pol/ will but I wont, I will complain if you make a set in an alternate egypt and make all of the people black because a bogus study half a decade ago guessed they might be (which has since been proven wrong).

Would you be mad if they made an African plane completely white and made no comments on the fact of why everyone is white? I mean there are white Africans anon.

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>>55195049
Jamuraa was fucking sweet, and I would complain about any new african set because the modern magic team literally cannot make something as good as it.

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>>55195071
I don't think a set released in 1996 is a very good argument for representation today. Also there were white people in mirage

>>55195115
>a bogus study
Rap and Hiphop videoclips don't constitute a study, anon, neither Das Rite black jews in the street constitute historians.

>>55195140
>Tap all nonwhite creatures
Wow fucking white privileged males at it again.

>>55194151
I am confused. The /pol/ posters are to being proven right, nobody mention Obama. Too many women in what should be grisly male sea fantasy set. As is just look like gayer version of Disney's Peter Pan pirates, no fear, too clean.

>>55195140
That's cause back then wizards was interested in equality and not tokenism

>>55195144
Not sure how any of that is relevant to what I said.
People DID conduct studies that said Egyptians were black and they WERE proven WRONG this year by analyzing DNA genomes of mummies.
I don't give a shit about cultural movements or whatever the fuck you're on about.

>>55193247

Where the fuck are the sexy pirate ladies

I didn't sign up for this gay porno

>>55195055
Greeks literally invented dreads though.

>>55195190
Attractive women are patriarchy

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>>55195157
people will complain that the white guys are doing bad stuff

>>55193247
What, rowdy lady pirates were okay in the 80s, (or today if japan does it), but not right here?

>>55195206

Greeks didn't wear dreads, greeks cut their hair shot and slathered it with olive oil for that patented greasy look.

>>55195284
Wizards of the coast is proudly based in seattle

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Well, this thread seems to be a good place to post this.

>>55195292
Well you can think that if you want, but you're wrong. Greeks were one of many ancient cultures to invent dreadlocks because all they fucking are is letting your hair stay dirty and allowing it to clump up.

>>55195284
Breasts are oppressive to women anon, take your sick perversion fantasies somewhere else, also don't forget to be at the next free the nipple rally downtown this weekend or you're oppressing women's rights to express their bodies!

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>>55195323

Then why do all their statues show short haired guys?

>>55195323
literally no work of art from that time proves this

More important: why are the woman so ugly

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>>55195335

>>55195353
Attractive women are a tool of the patriarchy and therefore evil

>>55195355
....continue

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>>55195348
Straight from Wikipedia, dipshit.

>>55195365
At least give them hueg boobs so I don't have to look at her ugly faces

>>55195376
Just find it yourself. The first page gives you the title AND the artist.

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>>55195355

>>55194336
Even native walker Hualti can't leave; she interpreted her spark igniting as a spiritual experience that turned her to writing poetry.

>>55195388
Breasts are also a tool of the patriarchy.
A true woman is completley indistinguishable from a man in appearance and action other than having a vagina which makes them automatically better

>>55195412
YOU ARE TEARING ME APART WIZARDS

>>55195412
You're strawmanning very hard now.

>>55195380
That doesn't look greek at all. It's also repainted and redrawn, so god knows how it was in the original.

>>55195410
She's not trying hard enough to leave then.
I mean, she IS RW, that's the best color combo for forcing a planeswalk

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>>55195425
It's from Crete, it's Greece no matter what you think it looks like. Why don't you go look up Greek kouros statues so you can see for yourself the sheer number of dreadlocks that they depicted themselves with?

>>55195472
That doesn't look like dreads to be honest.

>>55195472
Look at this hot black woman

>>55195472
Stop feeding the b8 poster already.

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>White people are goblins in mirage
and people complain about Ixalan Vampires

>>55195550
Jews aren't white.

>>55195550
I wish we would get some art like this in newer sets.

>>55195626

Sorry, can't do. Every card must have full body shots of a bunch of nondescript photorealistic people standing around in the middle distance. It's important for the Magic brand that cards look like nothing and it's impossible to remember their art after looking away from them for five seconds.

At this point I want more women and minorities on magic cards out of spite.

>>55195969
Dont be a fucking contrarian anon.

>>55195969

Pretty sure all the current ones were put in out of spite too.

>>55195969
You loved Amonketh then

>>55195983
but it's so fun to piss off the whiny little nazi boys.

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>>55196039
I sure did

>>55195969
I honestly wouldn't mind.

Despite the whining, they're not actually eclipsing whites at all. If MtG turned into Magic: The Africaning I'd be weirded the fuck out, but it hasn't, and it IS pretty enjoyable to watch paranoid nerds rant about BLACKED.

>>55196066
>nazi

Do we need to add this to the pile of words that don't mean anything anymore?

>>55196100
>they're not actually eclipsing whites at all.

I don't think you get the issue. Your argument sounds like you think everything is fine if there are still some percentage of whites around (let's say 50%). But that assumes that Magic has one unified world whose population is similar to New York or something. The issue is that black characters keep popping up where they don't belong. Case in point: Innistrad. Theros. Why are there black people in Innistrad? Innistrad is Transylvania: the Plane. Why are there black people in Theros? Greeks weren't black, and Theros is Greece: the plane.

>they planeswalked there
No they didn't. Planeswalkers are incredibly rare.

>>55196179
>Why are there black people in Theros? Greeks weren't black, and Theros is Greece: the plane.
Greece was close enough to Africa that it had a black population during the time they were trying to emulate. Not a massive one, but they had one.

Besides, the point is Theros IS NOT Greece, Innistrad IS NOT Transylvania. They're not the same world even if they're stylistically similar. They are literally fictional dimensions.

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>>55196179
> The issue is that black characters keep popping up where they don't belong.
Yes, clearly the creators of the setting have no idea what belongs in their setting.
What flavor is that Kool-Aid, by the way?

>>55196179
Because the grandchildren of the people of Innistrad and Theros were (like yours are going to be) brown and then they were black

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>>55196179
I mean...black people have been on Innistrad literally since the first set, though it was as an outcast, implying some kind of rarity or racism.

Frankly though, its one of those things that I don't really find that ridiculous and nonsense. This is Magic, where elder dragons have scrunchy old man faces and people are made partially out of filagree. Where goblins incite anarchistic riots and a chunk of the moon imprisons demons. Considering it's fantasy I don't really have a problem with varying up the racial composition of a plane. If they were claiming to be historically accurate, it's a different story, but Innistrad is literally a spooky monster smorgasboard, so who cares if some of the people there are black or asian?

>>55193927
>You know, I didn't used to enjoy the tears of fat nerds but now I am starting to develop a taste for them. Thanks /tg/!

I don't even play Magic, but I love lurking in these threads nowadays.

>>55196179
>Your argument sounds like you think everything is fine if there are still some percentage of whites around (let's say 50%).

Yeah that's actually fine. Why wouldn't it be? Why do you care so much about race?

>But that assumes that Magic has one unified world whose population is similar to New York or something.

Not really bro. It doesn't assume that at all. You can have races realistically dispersed in planes.

>The issue is that black characters keep popping up where they don't belong.

They belong wherever the fiction says they belong.

>Case in point: Innistrad. Why are there black people in Innistrad? Innistrad is Transylvania: the Plane.

Because Innistrad isn't actually Transylvania (and, based on naming conventions and influences, it draws quite a bit more from other places), it's Innistrad. It's not one little piece of Earth, it's an entire dimension.

>Why are there black people in Theros? Greeks weren't black, and Theros is Greece: the plane.

Because Theros isn't Greece. It's Theros. It's not a tiny slice of Earth, it's an entire dimension.

>>55193862
rawr!!!111!!!1! XD

>>55193862
It's spaniards, caribbean pirates, and aztecs.

>>55196449
>rawr means: i'll suck your dick while you pet my fluffy head of vibrant colors in dinosaur

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>>55195223
this and prejudice on the board
>kek

>>55193247
ITT: MRAs and /pol/ is triggered because men aren't as ubiquitous as before

>>55195380
>dat anterior pelvic tilt
>complete lack of muscle tone
>doesn't even keep hands up to protect the face

2.6478345219/11
fix that shit

>this could've been a dinosaur thread

>>55195115
That study was on a certain dynasties genetics, that proved they weren't Nubian decedents.

To say there were no "Blacks" in Egypt is crazy stupid. There's a thousand years of history that the "Dark Skinned" warrior class kept them Jews in line.

They were literally the enforcers and slave drivers of the affluent class. So they enjoyed a pretty high status, similar to American military and police.

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>>55196474
no thanks

>>55196314
Now, if they'd actually gone and made half of Innistrad black/asian/arab/whatever?
Yeah, that would've been nonsensical.
They added a few more than the time before. The majority are still white. And Innistrad explicitly has other continents.

>>55196555
>this could've been a dinosaur thread
But instead we get /pol/tards posting infographics about nigger intelligence, which is "better"!

>>55196091
She actually looks Egyptian though, the humans in Amonkek are about 50/50 for looking Egyptian or looking African.

>>55196618
No no, don't move goalposts now.
The study was to disprove peoples claims that they were in fact black. This study proves that the majority of ancient Egyptians were not.
Nobody is claiming blacks weren't a minority in Egypt, I'm sure they were treated on the same level as every other person to some degree and that's fine I don't really care.
I only care about people saying all Egyptians were black when that stupid shit has been disproven.

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Wizards has really nailed the fantasy elements in recent sets. Women in positions of power, what will they dream up next?

>>55196940
Also the important part is that the KINGS weren't black, since that's what the meme is

>>55197234
But but... "We waz kangs~!"

Nubians did rule the empire for one Dynasty. It was short lived, and the study proved it as the largest dynasty of that time period reverted back to Ancient Egyptian.

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Female minority pirates wearing heavy clothing instead of some sexy stuff is so wrong.
This for sure is be wizard.
They have never done this

>>55197336
>This for sure is be wizard.

>>55197336
but anon, that is a boy

>>55197526
It have long hair and I'm drunk, is girl enough

>>55197549
Perfect! You're pirating excellently already, anon!

>>55193572
>jace
>male
Good try

>>55197948
he (or should I say she) is an ilusionist after all

>>55198018
Yeah, but he was born a little bitch faggot planeswalker. Before he became an illusionist.