>This btfo's those spaceship charts /tg/ always posts

>>55179311
>sole Mega-class
>ship isn't named 'Mega,' but Supremacy

Uh

>>55179311
>60Km
They call that big? That's smaller then the shits I take.

>>55179311
>>55179370
i know.
pure penis compensation.

>>55179395
It's the biggest sci-fi ship I know of that isn't some sort of space station or floating city.

The last contender was the 30km-long Covenant Supercarrier

>>55179311
Anyone got the screencap about the Executor and people taking hours to just send a cleaning crew?

>>55179478
The Death Star was a ship even though they called it a space station.
It could move and even enter hyperspace.

>>55179718
So could the Halo Arrays but no one calls them a ship.

>>55179727
Difference there is they were produced by an ancient extinct society.
The Death Star was produced by recent Imperial industrial might.

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>>55179481
?

>>55179311
HURR HURR HURRRRR IT'S LIKE THE EXECUTOR BUT BIGGERER.

BRAVO ABRAMSTEIN, MANY GOLDS TO THE MOUSE.

>>55179997
abrams isnt attached to star wars anymore

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>>55179909
Is the Star Killer a ship?
It traveled from star to star.

>>55180087
Shhh, you'll disrupt his fragile meme-based cognitive ability and then he'll be leaking big guys all over the thread for you even though it wasn't part of his plan.

>>55179981
That's pretty great, thanks.

Could have sworn I've seen a version comparing silhouette sizes, though.

>Has disney lost it?
No, they're making money. And faggots like you are crying about it.

>>55180247
From the /m/ thread, I believe I've found it
http://i.4cdn.org/m/1504303979792.jpg

>>55179311
>"guys we're worried the First Order won't be as popular as the Empire because they're just a shallow retread"
>"just make their shit retard huge to compensate"
I see Starkiller Base wasn't a one-off disappointment

How the fuck does a fringe military junta find enough skilled crew to operate this thing?

>>55179370
I'm guessing that the 'Mega' probably collapsed in on itself. Or it landed. Either way, that leaves the 'Supremacy' as the only one.
Some naval traditions would then rename the entire class to Supremacy, like what happened with the Thresher.

>>55180553
In their defense, they're led by an insane Sith Lord. Sith Lords are fucking masters at getting shit done.

>>55179370
HMS Hood was the only Admiral class battlecruiser

>>55180553
Yeah
I don't see how the Empire was ever a threat, if some way smaller group can make a planet into a weapon more powerful than the deathstar, and can build a 60km wide space ship that shits on anything the empire ever had

>Spending tremendous amounts of resources on Wunderwaffe instead of practical replaceable and repairable ships

>>55181362
First Order is Star Wars Zeon

>>55181398
They havent dropped a colony on Australia yet.
They need to step their game up.

>>55181406
Australia probably doesn't exist yet and they probably can't even reach the milky way.

>>55181406
I think destroying the current capital of the New Republic counts as stepping their game up

>>55181360
I doubt they will justify it like this, but if you wanted it to work you could explain it away. Say that some of the better scientists and military minds escaped away with the plans to space Argentina. Starkiller is bigger because they've had a full generation to size up the weapon. The groundbreaking work was finished with the first Deathstar.

As for resources, the Empire was in it for the long haul. They only collapsed because of a freak strike that took out their leadership all at once. The First Order is fighting with their backs against the wall. Everything they have is going into kicking ass and expanding.

>>55181362
>>55181505
I prefer a simpler explanation: You need a Sith to create this shit. Not because they're magic or anything, but because Sith are essentially ambition elementals. Any normal person is going to look at the plans for a planet that destroys other planets and ask what possible fucking use this could have, why you would ever spend this much fucking money on something to destroy your ability to extract money from something else, while also being horrifically and obviously evil. Anyone mad enough to okay such a project is probably too lunatic and fringe to have the resources to actually go through with it.

But when you've got an evil space wizard at the helm, this starts to seem like a fantastic and plausible idea, because he's willing and able to do whatever it takes to get ALL the power.

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>>55179311
Oh, that's a large ship you have there. It would truly be a shame if ship massively smaller than it had a way of destroying it. Say, maybe a black hole in the middle of it? Would that do the trick?

>>55181456
>current capital of the New Republic
Not just the capital, they straight-up wiped out all five planets in the Hosian system when they fired it.

Seriously though, the Supremacy feels like something ripped out of 40k just because of how ECKBAWKSHUEG it is.

>>55181639
I said something similar when I saw Force Awakens, I can't imagine how something that big wouldn't just crush itself back into a sphere. The only way I could suspend disbelief was to say "A space wizard did it". Because seriously, I can't see even star-wars level mundane engineering holding that thing in place.

>>55179478
>biggest sci-fi ship
You're posting on the 40k board, you know

>>55181900
hilariously, it's right in line with most Star Wars stuff. Star Wars has been dwarfing 40k ships for decades, no joke.

>>55179311
Oh no, a large ship. That just makes it less resistant to swarm tactics.


Seriously you find out how small the ship required to fit a ftl drive and then crap the out of every factory.

Numbers>size

>>55179478

The Culture has 2000 year old obsolete ships that dwarf it.

>>55179311

So, lemme see here: 60 km long ship.
Eyeballing the pic, I'd say about 300 km wide
and about 10 km 'tall'.

So, compared to, say, an Ohio-class sub (nearest real-world equivalent) this thing would have about 10 trillion tonnes and 90 billion crewmembers.

Nice boat.

inb4 pulling numbers out of my ass:
Each Ohio is 170 m long, 13 m wide, and (about)
14 m tall, with about 17000 tonnes and 155 crew.
Feel free to pull out your calculatory, and find out how many of 'em fit into this monstrosity - and then divide by 10 (like I did).

>>55182066
Not really. In fact, the opposite is kinda true. Size means you can pack bigger shields, more weapons, etc. You need REALLY good fighters in order to counter a ship that massive.

>>55182166
It's mislabeled. Wingspan is 60 km, not "length."

Still fucking absurd, just not "Death Star can wear it as a hat" huge.

>>55182172
As long as I can deal damage I can win. I very much doubt that a big gun can hit a fighter.

If all that fails it's ramming speed

>>55182190
Shields, m8. That thing is going to have some damn strong shields. Plus weapons that could blanket the area around it with firepower.

Dahak-class Planetoid Battlefleet when?

>>55182193
All you need is some antimatter.

And in Star Wars physical objects go through shields.

>>55182014
The 40K big stuff is around 10km long for the super rare Mechanicus Arks.

>>55182209
The necrons have a complete and utter lack of subtlety I bet they have some big ones.

>>55182172
Unless, of course, you could do something like accelerate at light speed, going so fast that you actually go through shields - Even ones of an interplanetary size that are indestructible by conventional fleets.

Then, you could just arm some old fighters with massive amounts of detonate-able material, send them at light speed controlled by droids, and have them come out just in time to impact into the ship at massive speeds with insane amounts of kaboom.

But it's not like such a maneuver is possible or could be repeated in any way.

>>55179311
Yet another case of something being created by someone who has no fucking clue about what their talking about.

But then the person who created it was probably the directors 8 year old son or something so we shouldn't be to surprised at the nonsensical naming. Who'd call their ship Mega anyway.

>>55182221
It is possible if you can have disposable ftl and ai that can think faster than light.

At that point it would just be like a missile box that launches selfguided missiles

>>55182209
>Big stuff is supposedly only 10km long
>Average Gloriana-class Battleship (y'know, the stuff the Primarchs like to ride around in) ranges from 20-30km in length
You wot m8.

>>55182038
In legends maybe. Canon lore? Not so much.

>>55182038
Not counting stuff like the Death Star or Craftworlds, which are less like ships and more like huge space stations that are also capable of moving, most SW ships tend to be tiny compared to 40k ones. The Imperial-class star destroyer, which is one of the biggest mass-produced ships in SW, dwarfing anything the Rebellion had and being notably bigger than any previous star destroyer class, is about the size of a 40k frigate. However, SW has some specific ships that are bigger than 40k ones; the Executor-class super star destroyer was almost twice as long as a 40k battleship (but might be less massive since it's extremely thin compared to its length), while the Eclipse-class SSD was shorter than Executor but more massive.

>>55180553
Droids.

This really needs to be a picture of that Aliens guy. I'll see if I can find one.

>>55181360
stop questioning it goy, it says star wars on the tin so you know it's good!

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>>55179311
Backside and shit here too.

>>55182325
That relentlessly stupid.

>>55182261
Ah, they changed it again.
The last time I looked at a 40K ship chart was five years ago.

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Have a comparison chart.

>>55179448
It's basically all the new movies are good for.
Seriously wish the Starkiller had actually been *two* planets, with a giant gun bigger than either planet sticking out from just above them.

>>55182325
this is just such a stupid design. SSDs were already pushing the limit of what was believable and logical for a spaceship size, and they just say:"fuck it, this is three times bigger."

why does it all need to be so fuck hueg?

>>55182394
Because hurr durr penis size's.

>>55182422
If Snoke's origin story turns out to be that he was a property developer on Coruscant, I'm going to sell my soul to Kek.

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>>55182325
What are they doing?

>>55182207
>And in Star Wars physical objects go through shields.
No. In star wars shields are selectively permeable.

We see asteroid strikes to shields.

>>55182373
So if I'm reading this right, the space calzone >>55182325 would almost fill the whole fucking chart top to bottom

>>55180553
Rakata Prime appears in official nu-trilogy map for some reason. I bet they're using Star Forge to produce this shit. Wouldn't make sense otherwise.

>>55182458
Han Solo flew through one going lightspeed.

That means if I just have engines and air that ram I just win. F=M*V and V is equal to(or way higher than) 3.00*10^8 m/s

>>55182498
ai not air

>>55182498
Sheilds negate sheilds?

>>55182512
Then why did anakin walk through the shield in the cgi-clone wars movie.

Reminder that that movie is canon

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>>55182373
>>55182459
Larger by a small % actually.

>>55179311
>60km long
>flying wing design
So we're looking at 200-250km width, and who knows how much in depth? You could probably house the entire population of Canada or Australia in that one ship.

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>>55179478
>not a floating city
Anon, it's a floating city

>>55182525
Star Wars universe runs on narrative energy?

>>55182555
That's fucking absurd.

>>55182563
Apparently it's a 60 km wingspan.

I hope.

>>55182563
see
>>55182166
and then
>>55182184

>>55182555
Holy shit m8.

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>>55182611
Ignoring all the other retarded things about this monument to government waste/middle finger to physics.
>360 degree view
>city-like structures
>right on top
>in the center
Did the Empire learn NOTHING from watching all the Executor's spaghetti fall out of its pockets when it ate that A-Wing over Endor? PUT THE BRIDGE IN THE CENTER OF THE SHIP, with 60 KILOMETERS OF ARMOR AROUND IT

>>55182209
Mechanicus ark class dwarf Glorinia name class which were like 20 km long

>>55182209
Arks don't have a standard size

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>>55182555
It's 60km wide

Jupiter's innermost moon (Metis) is only 60km square IRL.

And the Super Star Destroyer Executor is supposed to be 19 Kilometers long and also had a city on it.

So if given the choice between stupidly large ships and super special small ships like the sun crusher, what would you pick?

Original designs that fit into the existing lore are not an option

>>55179311
And yet it's still not as huge as your moms fat ass

>>55179981

A profound reminder of how the extended universe was endless shit and just a bunch of nerds trying to one up each other.

>>55182741
Stupidly large ships because fundamentally they just work like any other space bound super structure

>>55182611
What.

Why would anyone need to visually see anything in space? Much less on a ship that big?

>>55182711
Just turn your brain off and give the mouse money goy

If real life naval technology was following the same progression as Star Wars the most powerful warship on Earth right now would be a 10km long battleship, which fired shells as big as WW2 battleships.

>>55182751
Reminder that JJ has a size fetish and also made the Enterprise unnecessarily large in his Star Trek movies.

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>>55182325
It will be a sweet sweet feeling when we see a plucky Rebel pilot shoot down its engines and weapon systems one by one.

>>55182786
That sounds like the most fun timeliness ever

>>55182786
>>55182793
Not naval, but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwerer_Gustav

>>55182769
Look man, common sense is hard for a company that just wants to sell toys.

>>55182786
And would get sunk by concentrated fire and tiny planes just as easily as did the Yamato.

>>55182818
These days they would just use ASMs, the Russians have ones now that could probably torch aircraft carriers if it weren't for suppression of air defenses.

The Yanks have never actually had to DO that, but everyone knows it's going to come up someday so their Navy pours billions into it.

>>55182818
The AA defences are several hundred 3000mm cannon which fire once every four hours.

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>>55182818
>enormous retarded war machine
>cockblocked by little tiny ones
Where have I heard this story before? Guarantee it'll be some fucking letter-wing that blows this shit up, and then the next movie will focus on the Ultra-Class Star Asploder, which is 500km in length and has an even more expensive Lego kit.

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>>55182789
JJ doesn't know shit about space other than "hurrr, bigger = cooler"
Shit like the 60 second trip from Earth to the Klingon homeworld and Starkiller's plasmejaculation being visible across the entire fucking SW galaxy are a pretty clear indication that the guy doesn't give a single shit about a sense of scale in his work.

>>55182850

I'm pretty sure that monstrosity will get blown up in the climactic battle of Episode 9.
Don't ask me why, just a hunch.

>>55179311
More like the WHITE supremacy amirite haha

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>>55182555
I can't wait until they trench run it with a capital ship. Maybe a remake of itty bitty Death Star Uno could Ben Wa Ball the core.

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>>55182611
>tfw you initially think Supremacy looks cool but then realize its the boomerang version of High Charity but for the First Order

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>>55182843
That's a big boat, it would be a shame if something... happened to it.

>>55182876
But will Snoke get tossed into the reactor?

>>55182933
He'll get killed with the combined power of BBC and white wimmins.

>>55182711
angery doggo

>>55182933
What if Snoke is actually as big as he appears in the hologram and the reason the ship is so big is to fit his scale

This is so fucking retarded. What's next?
>INTRODUCING THE "COMPENSATOR" CLASS ULTRA ULTRA STAR DESTROYER "BBC APOCALYPSE"
>6 BILLION KILOMETERS LONG
>IT SHOOTS DEATH STARS

>>55182944
>it's revealed that Snoke is a devout white supremacist in Episode 8
>at the end of Episode 8 it's revealed that he also suffers from congenital heart defects
>Episode 9 revolves around the resistance infiltrating the Supremacy in order to bring their master plan to kill Snoke to bear
>after defeating Snoke's Nazi henchmen through a series of clever surgical strikes and psychological warfare, our heroes finally enter his throne room with nobody to stand before them but Snoke and Ren
>at the climax of their fight and on the cusp of defeat, our rainbow coalition unveils their secret weapon
>Finn drops his pants, and Po drops to his knees
>Rey and the Asian girl join in, and suddenly the throne room is dominated by the most progressive scene imaginable; a pansexual, multicultural, multiethnic, intersectional, respectful, fully consensual, kink-exploring, STD-swapping, birth control-using, POC-welcoming, equal-gender-representing orgy
>the final blow is Kylo casting aside his helmet to reveal that he's wearing makeup, at which point he introduces himself as Kylie and asks to be referred to by gender neutral pronouns as befits a non-binary person
>faced with the overwhelming power of progress, Snoke's heart gives out and audiences everywhere cheer and applaud as so great an evil is finally defeated
>Episode 9 ends with our heroes being awarded medals by the new President of the Tolerant and Peace-Loving Democratic Union (played by Michelle Obama in a cameo role) for their role in exorcising the ghost of white supremacy

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>>55182874
Super awesome deathstar 2.0 fires big gun laser thingy through hyper space. Okay.

Needs the power of a sun to fire. Okay.

Laser thingy can be seen from planets not in system. pic related.

At this point my brain had turned off, since I knew where the movie was going from maybe ten minutes in. And I wanted more Po and Finn adventures and less speckle girly Ray since she was a boring ass twat who can fly the millennium falcon because. Seriously they explain how Anakin can fly, On the flight to coruscant the pilot is shown teaching him the controls. And he isn't really that great of a flier in the final battle. They explain that Luke can fly, He mentions previous experience and Biggs vouches for him . But speckle feminist icon can fly because......? All they had to do was have Finn ask her how come she's so good a flying, and her reply is, Oh I have tons of hours in flight sims since that's the only thing I can do for fun around here.

>>55183045
Might as well just roll with it at this point.

>>55183137
I'd like to ask how exactly a planet can take away all the energy of a Star even tho the star is constantly burning fuel to produce more energy, and where exactly it puts it that doesn't just burn the entire planet instantly.

But that'd be nitpicking.

>>55179311
>biggest ship there is
wtf i love star wars now

>>55182751
>a bunch of nerds trying to one up each other
Isn't that also literally what Disney is doing with Snoke's SSD Phallic Compensation Exercise?

>>55183209
Now that you mention it.............................................

>>55179311
Just you wait
In my fictional universe even the fighter class ships will be 120 km long and that will mean it's the greatest fictional universe ever

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Fuck me they got the AT ATs as well.

>>55183336
I really don't understand why the first order felt the need to redesign so many of the empire's equipment when they're already a struggling group likely starved of material.

>>55183343
I know right. Maybe they're just big into recycling.

>>55182786
Fund it.

>>55183336
.... but why?

Why is it a gorilla?

>>55183336
So literally another battle for hoth?

>>55183343
Because new designs means they can make new merchandise

>>55183395
At this point, I would not take a bet that they won't have a shot for shot repeat of the Executor overshadowing a Star Destroyer using Snoke's dick measuring exercise in the place of Executor and Executor in the place of the Star Destroyer. It's all Disney knows how to do.

>mfw superweapon inflation
>mfw I made a superweapon that was somewhat bigger than saturn and its rings in volume
>mfw this can turn out to be a possibility in some SW media

I think I can be a SW ship designer.

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>>55183385
Are you asking me why I call it a Gorilla? Or why they designed made it look like a gorilla?

If the first, it's mainly due to the fore legs being taller than the rear legs.

>>55183404
>Not going turbojet and just recovering old designs

>>55183336
>>55183385
>>55183416
Looks more like a mammoth to me.

>>55183416
Why did they make a transport walker into a gorilla is what I am asking

>>55183413
I'm starting to feel like the designers for the new SW stuff might be those types who get super buttmad whenever you point out that the ships in 40K or any other sci fi universe are bigger

>>55183423
It has arms

>>55183423
Check out the front legs. These walkers are knuckle-walking like gorillas.

>>55183439
Fuck me I didn't even notice that.

>>55183439
Shit, you are right, you can't see it on the one on the foreground.

That's not only ridiculous but also really ugly

>>55183343
Maybe they secretly found like, a super secret empire complex that no one knew about or was ever mentioned before that had 400 nonillion tons of every material they could ever want.
Or maybe the rebellion fucking failed and they're only a tiny ass part of the galaxy

>>55183431
I get the feeling aswell, I wasn't the first to come up with a gas giant sized battlestation, but shit, it sounds they are going to cross the line soon.

>>55183385
Doesn't it look more like a sloth?

>>55183480
>now fear our mighty new walkers
>the slowest things in the galaxy

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>>55183424
So it can kneel and aim its back cannon

>>55183493
But why? Wouldn't it be like a lot more smartie to just not have the gun fixed in place?

Are the rebels still going to be using fighter craft to take down these monsters of horrible engineering?

Wouldn't the first order LEARN?

>>55183493
But it can fire it's back cannon fine

>>55183505
Apparently not.

>>55183513
Bad guys are stuck up old people who can't change their ways, they're stuck in the past, of course they don't learn!

>>55183501
It'd be hard for a gun of that size.
>>55183505
I think the new walkers have blades in the legs to cut cables.
You know, it woulda been cool if they didn't spoil these and left if to be a surprise in the movie but... Whatever

>>55183493
Sheeeit maybe they learned a bit from Hoth.

>So you see, the legs are vulnerable
>Why don't we make them so they can move out of the way of attacks?
>What, like an arm? We don't have the resources to upgrade all of them with arm-legs!
>Guys guys, hear me out here. What if we switch only the front ones? Sure the back legs are still vulnerable but that's where the Rebels will hit... so we can crawl using the undamaged front legs, like a zombie! Yeah? Yeah?
>...
>...
>GENIUS

>>55183531
The gun on the back is smaller than the two in the head

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>>55183536
>Attacks from the side

I-i like the new star destroyer

>>55183536
The issue was the weight of them falling usually destroyed the at-at

>>55183549
I like it's design. It's just Fuckhge.

>>55182207
>>55182458
>>55182498
>>55182512
>>55182525
There are two kinds of shields in Star Wars, you noobs. Deflectors prevent physical entry and are cheap to maintain, so they're usually kept up at all times to ward off meteorites and shit. Combat shields absorb energy and are costly to maintain, so they're usually only raised for battle.

>>55182555
What the fuck.

>>55183559
I meant the retributor SD, the big fucker is okay I guess

>>55183553
But the engineers were told that it wasn't the AT-AT's fault, it's because of those pesky Rebels. Or are you implying our largest, most formidable land vehicle has such a simple weakness as falling under its own weight?!?

Or, alternatively:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA

>>55183549
The design is alright as such, but having it at pne-third of that size would have been enough.

>>55183575
>>55183569

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>>55183413
>mfw I made a superweapon that was somewhat bigger than saturn and its rings in volume
You made Unicron?

>>55183056
>fully consensual
You sick fuck.

>>55183137
she mentions once in passing that she'd done low altitude flights before. I think it's right after they escape the TIEs and her and Finn are freaking out.

Never comes up again though. I almost missed it.

>>55183622
I didn't know stuff about transformer, so >>55183465 is kinda an excuse.

But I had some hearty laughs on the setting, my version of such station was based on Iserlohn from LoGH

>>55183137
Yeah the piloting thing is kind of a plot hole. Luke actually owned a ship, and IIRC it's implied in Episode 4 that the T-16 has very similar controls to an X-Wing because they're both made by the same company and conform to some standard.

In fact, Luke never flies a ship that isn't made by Incom Corporation. The T-16, the X-Wing, and the Hoth Airspeeder are all made by the same company with (presumably) the same or similar control schemes. Him being capable at piloting those ships ties his skill to something concrete in the universe.

>Bigger Death Star
>Bigger Star Destroyer

What next in Disney's new Supersized Star Wars?

>>55183916
Bigger profits sadly

>>55183209
Likely in the same place that lets people watch things happening in different solar systems in real time.

"Watch those worlds explode!"....

"Uh.. Boss, the beam we sent though hyperspace will hit the planets now, but we won't be able to observe the results from here for, uh.. six thousand years. For the closest one. Maybe we should have some scout ships go watch the results so we can see what is going on."

>>55183385
DIversity

>>55183941
Given it's the capital system, having observer ships/stations there for communication and things would make sense, so people may have actually watched it happen

So, why don't they blow Coruscant?

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>>55179311
mfw something the size of a comfy escape pod manages to one shot it.

I swear this is escalating into anime shit

By episode 19 we'll have that gurren galaxy mech death star star forge that shoots suns I drawed when I was 8

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>>55184307
Power creeps like this always disappointed me. Its also a horrible idea for a franchise and I figured Disney would have a lot more forward thinking than this.

In the original trilogy it was fine having enemy ships and weapons get bigger because it was meant to be leading to the grand finale.

On its own power creeping is fine, but for a franchise it just makes things awkward for writers in the future to try and create a sense of danger for characters that have already faced greater foes and worse odds and come out alive so they next episode or series needs to have an even bigger finale.

Unless they change this formula in the next episode I fear they'll get stuck in exactly what you described with a Star Killer based flanked by a fleet of death stars that give supporting fire.

>>55184539
Not him, but I would appreciate if the First Order were like a terrorist group, kinda like Empire tasting their own medicine.
>>55184307
Heh, funny I had a similar moment, but I don't think they will put something like Abeloth in there,right?

>>55184539
Could easily be solved by not having hack writers pressured by retarded corporate suits into trying to make the good guys who've already won and are no longer a guerrilla group still function as a guerrilla group.

It literally makes no sense to have your small terrorist group acting as a big mighty force to be reckoned with, launching full invasions and shit and your supposedly semi-conventional semi-official force (and yes I know the new canon has something about the resistance being technically separated from the republic, but still) still relying on infiltration and basically still using all the resistance tactics.

>>55184642
Yeah the early decision making process behind the scenes was pretty awful. Personally I would like to see an Imperial Remnant in the next film, I'm fairly certain Disney didn't erase the idea. I doubt it tho, the New Republic losing a bunch of core worlds would create the perfect opportunity for such a faction to strike at undefended worlds and I don't think that will work well with the whole Resistance Vs First Order story. It would just confuse people.

>>55181220
Snoke isn't a Sith. Neither is Kylo Ren.

>>55184756
They could literally make up whatever bullshit they want seeing as there is essentially 0 plot in the actual movie and all of it must be looked up elsewhere and therefore most people who saw the movie probably don't know about it.

>>55184642
The Resistance being lead by Leia also butchers her character imo, she was a supporter of the Republic but instead of working as a Republic official/leader she chooses to be a Warlord/General. It just doesn't make sense, I doubt many people would even want to join the resistance in the first place. Its a volunteer movement so they aren't paid and until the events of the movie no one has much reason to dislike the First Order, they were as far as everyone know a bunch of autistic Empireboos playing minecraft on a random planet.

There is also no explanation as to why the Republic didn't just kick the First Orders teeth in the second they knew they were there. Unless they were under the protection of another faction I see no reason why they would let them exist.

>>55184799
The republic lets the First Order exists as a compromise to end the galactic civil war or something like that, which Leia hates even tho she really has no reason to until the events of ep7, so she throws a tantrum and leaves, is what I remember. So yes, she's essentially just out for blood for no real reason which is totally inconsistent with her character having always been more of a politician type.

>>55181639
Snoke isn't a Sith, the Sith are extinct.

>>55184858
You know what he means.

>>55179478
http://charlock.free.fr/gunbuster/

>>55182325
Does it have a subway system or something?

>>55184904
Its the only way operating it would be feasible with such distances.

But you're going to see characters dramatically run through it anyway.

>>55183757
Luke flies a lambada class shuttle at the end of RotJ. Granted, he's been a rebel pilot for a few years now, so it makes sense

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>>55184916
It's not as though he's pulling particular maneuvers in the shuttle. He just takes off, leaves a hangar, flies straight out to the rebel fleet, and then presumably parks/docks there.

>>55179311
Can somebody explain to me why it's flat?
Does it confer any meaningful advantage at 60km scale space combat?

>>55184642
>It literally makes no sense to have your small terrorist group acting as a big mighty force to be reckoned with

But anon, if they weren't so big and scary the heroes wouldn't be plucky underdogs anymore.

>>55184959
Cheaper toy molds.

>>55184959
One could make the argument that more surface area = more guns

>>55184985
Yeah, and semicircles are superior to squares. Pull the other one, man.

>>55184996
Fucking broken semi-circles.
Someone should nerf that shit

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>>55182325

>>55185025
Just wait until you see spheres.

>>55185028
Why is everyone inside the ship going crazy?

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>>55179311
>This btfo's those spaceship charts /tg/ always posts

You are quite wrong anon. This does...

>>55185082
The fuck is a battle universe?

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But does it have that single glaring design flaw that would allow the main character to blow it up at the end of episode 7+n?

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>>55183045
I still got something bigger.

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I fucking hate soft sci-fi.

>>55183209
>and where exactly it puts it that doesn't just burn the entire planet instantly.

That thermal regulator whatsit that Poe and friends were bullying. Did you not notice how once they blew that up, the planet slightly turned into a babby star?

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>>55185095
If I remember it right then it was made on some forum as a challenge of who can think of more ridiculous weapon. This is not the only example there's also this...

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>>55185164

>>55185164
>ridiculous
That's not how you spell "retarded".

>>55185110
BLAME! is cheating.

>>55185164
>>55185172

The hell is a giga light year even?

This really just looks some black balls for lulz

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>>55185215
And that's all.

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>>55185225
>fortress looks like an ass

>>55185195
>we've run out of matter in the solar system to continue construction
>time to start mining from alternate universes

>>55185203
>The hell is a giga light year even?

10^9 light years, duh.

>>55185299
>^
Yep, I don't get those eithers, I am low int poster.

>>55185310
1,000,000,000, or 1 billion.

>>55185324
Thats it? seems rather short, given the distanceof milky and andro are 2 millions

>>55185110
>>55179311
What is the biggest ship in fiction?

The biggest ship I know is the Leviathan with a diameter of 10 ly.

http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4802acd634205

>>55185352
Probably a downstreamers ship.

>>55185360
The downstreamer's and the xeelee built ships who work like the TARDIS. Not that impressive from the outside, but it has a infinite area inside.

>>55185348
I mean, that still makes the observable universe 15,000 times larger than that distance.

Plus the observable universe =/= the whole universe.

>>55179478
It is a floating city though. And hive ships and the rock are both larger

>>55179448
It is literally concave

>>55185225
>The War has been escalating for thousands of years
>it got to the point of dudes stealing entire parallel universes and weaponizing them somehow
>mostly by slapping fuck huge thrusters and cannons on them
>possibly also whipping into obedience whatever obscenities dwell into the newly-stolen universes

Not gonna lie, that sounds fun. What else do we need to turn this into a viable setting, and what system could we use to play it?

>>55182711
>Did the Empire learn NOTHING from watching all the Executor's spaghetti

First Order
first order is a club of rich copy-cat (not40K) Fanboys sperging all over what the empire was.

they cannot into realistic lessons

>>55182439
You have my Sword!

>>55182786
KEK
E
K

the nation that built it would have to sack another nation immediately to get the funding to cover construction and fuel costs.

also, enslave the entire population as low-rank servant-crew

>>55182791
maybe Poe Dameron?

>>55185352

Final form of Gurren Lagann is bigger than galaxies.

>>55179311
All fictional spaceship sizes are arbitrary, only toddlers would be impressed.

>>55186071

I've actually never quite understood why bigger is supposed to mean better in a scifi context. When you look at technology that actually exists, smaller is usually better, because with technological advancements comes miniaturization. The first cell phones were the size of a suitcase.

I'm not worried about the 40 mile battleship, I'm worried about the 40 inch one.

>>55182818
Didn't they ambush it when it was jumping from one fleet to another solo and just feed planes at it like they were going out of style?

>>55186153
Sometimes more means more, you can fit more hardware from the mini cellphone inside the same suitcase.

>>55184799
In the newish book bloodlines, the public discovers that Leia is Vader's daughter so the republic freaks out and she is forced to retire. So she leads the resistance to try and fight the first order since she can't fight politically any more

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>>55186153
>I've actually never quite understood why bigger is supposed to mean better in a scifi context.
Because it's visually more impressive. Also, big ships means big dakka means many exploded smaller ships.

>>55186153
Depend of what you are talking about, when you talk about thing like architecture or plane people always want to build bigger and bigger.

>>55186153
>smaller is usually better, because with technological advancements comes miniaturization.

Only if you're being dumb.
The biggest building and ships exist now.

>>55182066
Depends - on - the - setting.
In Star Wars, Shields require power, and bigger shields need more power.
If 10% of the Penile Compensation class starship is Power generators, and 10% is Shield generators, then we're looking at attacking a cinder block wall with mosquitos: you might have a billion feisty little bloodsuckers, but they aren't going to do much besides splatter.
I feel like such a nerd for saying this but: remember how Han Solo had to use hyperdrive to get past the shields on a planet?
Imagine that, but the shields are *much* tighter to the body. The margin of error for a small ship to penetrate is non-existent. especially in this heavily analogue control oriented world of droids and spaceships.

>>55185065
>other than sheer comedy
likely they realized they were essentially their own nation, and a starved imperial was in charge

>>55183385
It's going to stand up on its hind legs and get into a fist fight with Rey.

>>55183056
You realism this is Disney right?
As in, 'Our first official gay in a film is the guy who was already an old gay caricature' Disney.

The only reason Disney is even as progressive as is, is because they simply couldn't push against inertia anymore.

>>55183137
>Laser thingy can be seen from planets not in system. pic related.
I honestly thought they were on the one planet in the system NOT getting blown up because Kylo and co.

It still raised the question of how they saw such big explosions considering Mars from Earth is a pinprick but that is less of a handwave.

I didn't realise it was an entire separate system.

>>55184298
I, for one, do not miss the EU.

>>55185352
>>55186041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CXNa_m52r0
>ROW ROW! FIGHT THA POWAH!

>>55184884
>Gunbuster
Best taste

>>55182325
Wait, if it's 60 km long doesn't that mean from nose to thrusters, not across the wings? I mean, I wouldn't put it past them to do something that stupid, just asking for confirmation.

>>55179370
>naming a member of a class the same as the class itself
Asking for trouble. What if there's another Mega-class ship in the future? Besides, as an analogy, there's a bunch of species who are the only ones in their family.

>>55182373
>no ships from Advent Rising
Not surprising in the slightest, but still disappointing

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>>55179478
Spear of Adun is (supposedly) almost 75 km long.

>>55187813

As if Blizzard needed to make SC2 even more retarded.

>>55182272

Most depictions of Craftworlds have them looking pretty ship like.

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>>55187939
Ture. But they behave more like a (barely) mobile station than a ship. They practially incapable of manouvering on the timescale of even the biggest and most sluggish starships. In BFG rules a Craftworld was treated like a planetary assault target that also moved (very slowly) and had a shitton of gun and point defence.

>>55186164
They couldn't supply enough fuel to the Yamato to carry out any sort of long-term mission plan, so when the Emperor made some offhand statement about the IJN not doing enough for the honoru of their country they threw it and a couple escorts on an unspoken suicide mission to jam up the American military advance.
The USAF spotted the flotilla en route and bombed them to hell.

>>55187813
>>55187864
No seriously, why can't I escape the feeling that these people have started reading dumb Enterprise vs Millennium Falcon type arguments and started tailoring the writing to help their side "win?"
>No, WE have the biggest, bestestest space ship!
>Look, our iconic protagonist is amazing at everything now! That makes him better than your iconic, amazing at everything protagonist!
>Let's give everything a hypertechnical explanation so people can know how everything works even though they just highlight how nothing makes sense and it all runs on story logic!

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>>55179478
Culture GSVs put that lot to shame, although they're pretty much on the borderline of Kardashev III and are the most powerful civ in that universe bar whoever sent the Excession, that's not really the point of that series. The AIs that run them spend most of their time simulating their own universes because this one is too dull for more than an infinitesimal fraction of their brainpower. Minds OPPLZNERF.
Of course, they can't hold a candle to the megastructures, they can build Dyson Spheres and stuff they but they normally don't as a waste of resources.

Still, new Star Wars ship is pretty idiotic for that universe, since that makes basically no sense. Why's it not just a globe covered in guns like the Death Stars? Not like it would ever try to land anywhere and that way you could bury the command deck in 30km of armour.

>>55185788
>and what system could we use to play it?

Just go wild, the winner is whoever can come up with the most absurd proposition.

>>55186464
>the unenlightened masses intensifies

>>55186217
Buildings are meant to fit people in, and ships have been relegated to the task of just fitting people and equipment in. If they were actually required to do any kind of fighting they'd probably be built smaller.

>>55188494
>Buildings are meant to fit people in

Yeah, no building has ever been built as a vanity project or anything.

>>55188572
A really big one? No. Even when buildings were built to be a dick measurement competition contestant, they still serve a specific purpose, and that AFAIK always is fitting a lot of people in them.

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>>55188625
>A really big one? No

Yes.
Vanity height is very real.

>>55188713
The only one that strikes me as just utter vanity (not uncommon on Arab kings) is the Burj Al Arab, the Burj Khalifa is still under construction, and i'm not sure what it means by "non occupiable" space in it's case, since there's a lot of services and other activities that go on in many of the floors it says cannot be occupied.

>>55186576
The EU at least had bursts of weird originality.

>>55185028
Is that canon? I've seen it before but I never tough of looking it up and now that I did I can't find any references to it outside of fanfiction.

>>55179909
The Galatcic Empire is also an ancient extinct super society, dumbass.

>>55188972
No. It's not. It's not even Legends. It's pure fanfiction. It's the SDSD Freudian Nightmare.

>>55180553
Oh, easy, they still have a population in the billions and they have a MUCH smaller fleet to worry about.

It's why their TIEs are so much better than the TIEs from the height of the empire. They no longer need to or can shit out a billion, might as well up the quality. The Supremacy likely has a lot of automation compared to an Executor class desperately trying to find jobs for millions of humans.

>>55184539
I didn't remembered they had outright literally just put the Starkiller base next to the Death Stars. No longer do I have doubts in my mind that Star Wars is now aimed at 10 year old or younger.

>>55182876
Just like the executor class, this is totally going to happen now isn't it
>>55183002
I want it

>>55184642
>could have had a weakened Empire and growing Republic locked in a space Cold War, both wanting the other gone but neither of them willing to start a conflict that will ruin them all
>the First Order could have been a splinter faction officially disowned by the Empire but unofficially left to do whatever as long as it stays out of the way
>the movies could have been about a proxy war between the First Order and Resistance, which also conveniently explains away why the Resistance isn't helped or acknowledged by the Republic

But instead we got "hurrr remember Episode IV guys?" Hooray.

>>55182741
Anything but the Cone of Doom

>>55187813
That's a fucking craftworld.

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>>55179311
>mega

>>55187703
>What is usual naval nomenclature

>>55186464
Well, I would pay to watch that

Nah, I would watch it for free on YT or somewhere

>>55186464
RULES OF NATURE

>>55187703
You generally name the class after the lead (first) ship in the class. For example for the Iowa class battleships the first ship was the USS Iowa, followed by the New Jersey, Missouri, and Wisconsin. So the Iowa class is made up of four ships with one of them being named the Iowa.

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>>55186023
>maybe Poe Dameron
>a male
>being the hero of a Star Wars film
>in 2017
It's gonna be one of the two tubby Viet girls Disney has on the cast list. Maybe both, together in a "NOT Y-WING(tm)" that they introduce for their new product line targeted at the asian audience.

>>55179311
At what point does someone look at this and say, this is impractical you could make 3 fleets and it would cost less, need less crew to manage, and wouldn't be killed by one guy in an A-wing.

>>55194830
And then they're going to wonder why the asian audience suddenly hates them

>>55195233
The nucanon Darth Vader comic features General Tagge, who takes over the military while Sheev has Vader on timeout for the Yavin 4 debacle, wondering why Palpatine let Tarkin build the Death Star when its resources could have been put towards dozens of SSDs and a lot else besides.
Unfortunately the ISB failed to pass that internal memo to the people writing the sequel trilogy.

>>55182908
>trench run it with a capital ship
Alright you just 100% sold me on this absurd fuckhueg ship.

>>55182555
Anon, anon; the space calzone is 60km in length.
Not in width.
It's closer to 6 or 7 Executors wide.

>>55195889

Pablo has stated that 60km refers to its wingspan, not its distance from front to back.

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>>55195641

>>55183404
but the new designs are all kind of shit

>>55195979

They really are. They're mostly just existing Star Wars things modified slightly in dumb ways.

>>55182769
Morale.

>>55191987
Yes, that's sort of its point.

>>55182713
>>55182721
The last time I looked into this, the biggest Mechanicus Ark on file was 10km long.

I guess power creep isn't limited to the actual game mechanics anymore.

>>55179311
Dolza's Flagship was 50km almost as big...

>>55187813
The Protoss pretty explicitly rely on their psionic crystal bullshit though.

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I think Eldar Craftworlds are still the biggest. I mean some of those little ships in the picture approach the size of at least half an Executor class if not more than that.

>>55188713
I hope an earthquake, tsunami, or both hit Dubai. Be some awesome disaster footage.

>>55179311
Is it going to be in Ace Combat 7?

>>55195962
Graphs win wars, Ani. "Vision" tends to ignore strategic and logistic reality to fulfill some bullshit grand narrative.

>>55195955
That's fucking stupid, then; why call it length?

>>55195641
>>55195962
>>55196577
The Death Star wasn't a weapon of war, it was a peacekeeping weapon. The space equivalent of a nuclear detente + compatible with the empire's usual doctrine of just throwing walls of bodies and metal into things until victory, something the Death Star would obviously be quite good at, being able to house god knows how many ships and soldiers. Tarkin's logic was perfectly fine, if only he wasn't a character on a children's movie.

>>55196529
Despite containing millions of people, Craftworlds are never described as densely populated and there are lots of rural/quiet areas and peaceful forests. They must be pretty huge for that

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>>55185225
>Paradimensional fortress

How many galactic civilizations rise and fall in the time it takes an order to get from the bridge to one of the point defenses?

>>55181360
These were all Empire prototypes that they made workable?

>>55182166
Engines have to be bigger.
Every doubling of size requires quadrupling of thrust.

Then you have the additional fuel requirements, since it has been established SW ships still ise some form of fuel.

Eventually any size you add is taken up by engines and then engine size over takes the available space.

>>55187703

This is what literally happens in real life though.

First ship of the class is traditionally named after the class then the rest are named something else.

>>55195962
Tagghe, was it? i liked the guy. he was a realist among a bunch of expected types.

>>55197451
It's the other way around, the class is named after the first ship.

>>55183459

The Rebellion is confirmed successor to the empire, the First Order is a fringe nation which is meant to have only had 20 star destroyers at the start of E7.

>>55188126
Dahak from the David Weber books is probably the single most logical instance of "absurdly huge battleship". A post-scarcity interstellar empire discovers evidence of a Reaper-style race that does periodic genocides of civilizations and decides to spend the next few thousand years preparing by building battlemoons designed to tank extinction level events.

>>55182207
>>55182458
>>55182498
>>55182512
>>55182525
>>55183561

I've always assumed their shields could be set to allow slow-moving or otherwise low-energy objects through (or set to block everything), depending on what you were planning on using them for.

Want to keep people out of someplace or protect a ship? Blocks everything. Protect some infantry? Only blocks weapons fire.

Plus they seem to be able to make them not affect things passing through from inside, so ships can shoot out if that's what the shields are designed for.

>>55197255
At least 3, maybe four depending on the circumstances

>snoke

makes me laugh every time

>>55179981
>Warhammer_40k_ships.png

>>55187706
Advent Rising is the best game that nobody has ever played.
I still hold out hope that perhaps, some day, it'll get a remaster and the rest of the trilogy it deserved.

>>55199299
It goes for pennies all the time on GOG, I've been looking for a while but I didn't tough it looked that good, first time I see anybody mention it

>>55179311

oh wow... I wonder how they're going to blow up this one.

You know, just once I'd like to see one of these fuck off huge ships captured instead of destroyed. Or at least disabled in some way that doesn't make me go "oh, 1 billion people just died".

>>55199376
1 billion FASCIST IMPERIALIST PIGS just died*

>>55199299
Great, now I have to play it again!

>>55196804
I remember once someone from GW saying that they had populations measured in the tens to hundreds of thousands, not even a million apeice.
That was why they had wide open empty spaces and why they are considered a dying race.

Mind you this was the better part of a decade ago now when I heard this.

>>55179718

Death Stars don't seem to move other than maintaining orbital speeds and FTL

>>55200451
>they don't seem to move aside from all that moving they do
ok

>>55179370
>isn't supremacy-class
would be so much better.

>>55179478
the ship i just now came up with is over 100km long.
tough luck buddy.

>>55183336

>that tiny ATAT

DON'T TALK TO ME OR MY SON EVER AGAIN

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>>55182611
more like star destroyer sized

>>55183336
this is just gonna be "empire strikes back - fuckhuge edition", isn't it?
i really hoped it wouldn't be, but deep down i always knew.

>>55200893
anything beyond executor size is retarded and serves no purpose, story wise nor otherwise.