/swg/ - Most Important Edition

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>tfw still nothing about the Raddus cruiser

>>55175714
It'll be added to Armada a year after Episode 9 comes out.
I was really hoping for more /tg/ stuff to come out today. At least Legion is coming.
That being said, though, they'd better announce some expansions coming out soon after the core game or it'll probably be DOA.

>>55175745
I don't even play Armada. I just want to know what it is and how it looks like.

>>55175745
I'm sure they will; Alex said it would have an "aggressive" release schedule

The game's not even out until next year (January? March?)

>>55175714
>>55175773
It'll be fuckteen kilometers long and horrendously out of scale for armada like every other retarded oversized blight they've revealed for TLJ

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Oh shit, wait, it's here

>>55175797
>Sequel-era writers keep trying to push the WW2 in space angle to the fore
>USA stand-in names a cruiser hull after famous person
>Not a DD-equivalent hull instead
I know it's a really, really minor nitpick, but it still sets off my autism just a little bit.

>>55175797
So it's a scaled down (I think) nucannon Viscount?

>>55175880
yes, but the Viscount itself looks retardedly upscaled, even moreso than the pizza-class

no way that shit was more massive than the Executor

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>>55175970
forgot pic

>>55175990
Damn, those hangars have to be frigate sized if the pic is accurate.

Legion just confuses the hell out of me, I mean I haven't played Imperial Assault but is it so inadequate at that kind of skirmish gameplay that they feel there's room for an entirely new line of incompatible products? Same for Destiny and their other card game, it just seems like there's so much overlap and anyone who got seriously into one doesn't seem likely to just hop into another..

>>55176744
I understand where your coming from, but in the end I think Legion will wind up geared towards larger engagements than IA. It's also possible that Legion may be replacing IA but it's not very likely considering your own point regarding FFGs weird overlap.

>>55175797
>>55175840
>>55175880
>>55175970
>>55175990
>>55176587
The prototype Viscount was also 3km long.

>>55175990
looks like a poop

Any good sites/dumps for maps? Running a saga edition campaign on roll20 and I have some stuff, but want to know if I missed anywhere obvious/good.

>>55176744
>>55177163
Legion will definitely be larger battles than Imperial Assault skirmish. The most figures possible in an Imperial Assault army is 20. The designers have said a normal Legion army will have around 10 groups, and I believe you have to take at least three "corps" units, which seem to have five figures each. Those facts combined would indicate that all or nearly all Legion armies will have more figures that the biggest Imperial Assault armies. It also will be on a substantially larger battlefield (even when accounting for the somewhat larger scale than Imperial Assault).

Also, Legion will have more of a hobbyist wargame aspect, with 3D terrain a possibility. (And I think I heard a designer said they might add figures that can be built differently later on, although the core set is all monopose, other than the weapon options on the AT-RT.)

This isn't to say it will be good. I want to see the finished product before I make that decision. But if it is good, there is room for both it and Imperial Assault. (I love the Imperial Assault campaign mode, and the quick skirmish matches make it good for tournament play without taking all day.)

The more I stare the more fucked up Han Andrew Chewie's faces look

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>>55178607
Forgot pic

>>55178607
>>55178674
>Han Andrew Chewie
>forgot pic

Why do I even phonepost

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>>55178674
Could be worse.

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Death Star III confirmed for TLJ

>>55178885
How did TLJ end up on an even worse track than TFA

>>55178885
It's toy packaging fuck head

>>55178897
>>55178907
I thought a new death star was confirmed.

Star wars has been creatively bankrupt since the 1980s. They're obviously going to just rehash stuff until people stop caring.

>tfw people genuine enjoyed the other 2 abortions.
Or not, at this point I'm convinced people will buy anything.

>>55178957
>I thought a new death star was confirmed.
When you assume, you show your intelligence.

>>55178885
The only thing keeping my interest in this movie is that Super Squint.

And instead of somebody interesting, it'll be flown by Darth Chemical Romance.

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so, i like X-wing, but i like Dogfighting and nave no love of dragging big ships down to my scale

am i wrong?

>>55178885
>>55179042
Also the barrels all seem capped/undrilled. Pft

Maybe he'll have more interesting wingmen.

>>55179495
I'm not really sure what you're saying, but if you're saying you like the maneuvering between smaller, nimbler ships over shit like ghosts and jumpmasters and other large ships that just tank and spank then I 100% agree with you.

>>55179018
I'll bet you money on it.

Dark Greetings. If you were an imp warlord after Endor with a fully equipped ISD I, which planet (remember their defenses!) would you seize?

>>55180785
Lianna, Fondor or Eriadu, ideally.

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>>55180852

All those places could probably fuck an ISDI sideways with local defenses? But they'd be great power bases.

>>55175797

Where do I see these at?

>>55180785
Places with medium to large populations with decent to good economies, so...
>Reytha (likely the easiest to claim)
>Aargau
>Muunilist
>Mygeeto
If we're looking for hardline pro imperial sentiments after palps death that can be taken advantage of, probably Corulag or Carida.

>>55180785
Sarapin, planet was essentially a power plant for the core.

>>55179671
you got it right.
sorry, i am more of an intuition speaker than a real communicator.

and i'm excited for Hired Guns: i like Black Sun and i wanna see scum go to more Dogfighters.

>>55180785
Mandalore
for raw 'kek look what i got' factor.

>>55180912

From the sphero droid app. If you buy BB-8. Some of the images are now on the wook. And here's some more from gizmodo.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-star-wars-the-last-jedi-toy-sneakily-revealed-su-1798701899?IR=T

For Snoke and the MEGA though

>>55181045
Ahhctchually Mandalore's sector had like 13-25 Star Destroyers in the hands of... I think a grand admiral? Shortly after the Mandalorians drove the Nagai out I guess they moved in. (Not sure HOW the Nagai got a force allll the way over there. Mesed up a jump when coming from Firefist and entered the galaxy at the wrong spot?)

Source:Jedi Prince. (No really, they briefly do allude to other warlords in that book and mention one it's later confirmed to be the same area of space as Mandalore)

>>55181118

I think that Grand Admiral, Takel?, lost his fleet to Grunger and pissed off to Esseles quick smart though?

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Gas the Warlords

Imperial Remnant Now

>>55181150
Grunger stuck around Mandalore for a while though didn't he? ...Well, at least a year before fucking it all up in Corellia

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>>55181205

Imperial Remnant is gay, some yokel Moffs. Empire of the Hand where it's at.

>>55181311

You right, looks like Grunger stayed long enough to kick out Takel's people, beat Takel when he tried to get Gargon back. And is said to have controlled the Sector. But he was also running a "Join Me" tour of the Outer Rim pulling ships together for his stab at Corellia. The gonads on that guy.

Is it possible to use cybernetics and power armor to reach Brawn 8?

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I kinda want to see a 4-LOM with a head cannon.

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this is just ridiculous

>>55175797
It doesn't look too bad. But I wish ST capital ships used more paint.

>>55179671
>large ships that just tank and spank

This is 100% the reason why I quit playing Xwing. The designers refuse to get rid of this meta and add more red dice and turrets to completely destroy the entire purpose of the game, mother fucking dogfights.

Movement is the most unique and interesting thing in the whole system and people need to be rewarded more for flying well.

I'd go so far as to say that all small bases ships with less than 4 hull replace their evade action with reinforce and we start seeing the game going back to it's actual purpose.

>>55183112
I like it. Reminds me of Fractalsponge's sillier cannon wankers.

>>55183112
I think SW officially jumped the ship with TFA.

>>55183266
Well wave 12 looks like maybe they're thinking maneuvering should be important again with the Alpha heavily encouraging SLAMs and the Kimogila having the first narrower arc as opposed to the ever increasing instances of widening them, but then the sheathipede might result in an even more egregious version of the chunky monkey Ghost so it'll probably be a net change of zero. At least I can say I'm thankful none of them have turrets that we know of.

I'm starting to like the EU more, it had a lot less ridiculous stuff.

>>55183266
>all small bases ships with less than 4 hull replace their evade action with reinforce

This could actually work. It fucking destroys shit that messes with defense tokens but that kinda needs to happen anyway.

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>>55183274
Shame they decided to go with his walkers instead of ships.

>>55183407

I honestly can't think of anything more damning to say about the new canon.

>>55175682
Legion is actually very good, they did a good job with the rulers. I would still prefer my inchmeter but you can allways convert the values so it is fine. It looks more complex than Warhammer 40K 8th, alltho the game was made to be quick and easy to learn. Well would you look at that, nice job GW.

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This is so edgy it hurts. Synthetic crystals were better.

>>55183773
>Legion is actually very good, they did a good job with the rulers. I would still prefer my inchmeter but you can allways convert the values so it is fine.

Why?

The movement tool is less universal but it's way faster to use than a tape measure and more precise for those "every millimeter counts" moments and vehicles with arcs

>It looks more complex than Warhammer 40K 8th,

How the fuck did you arrive at this conclusion

>>55184143
I feel like there's a kernel of a good idea buried somewhere in "Vader is in a constant state of so much pain that it overwhelms other lifeforms forced to share it", but it leaves the big gaping hole of "what about Sheev and everybody else"

>>55184143
The moment I saw that I just started laughing. Really, after the last Vader series did so well bridging the gap between Anakin the Edgelord and Vader they pulled this crawling-in-my-skin tier bullshit?

>>55178607
>>55178674

I'm not sure, but I think there might be some legal reason why they can't make Han and Leia look TOO much like their actors likenesses?

>>55184405
There's actual photos of the actors in the book, though?

>>55184143
Synthetic crystals and crystals in general really didn't have a lot going for them. They were just kind of there.

And even in Legends, for a Sith to make a synthetic red crystal, they had to do basically exactly what Sheev is telling Vader he must do there, to focus his anger and pain on the creation of the crystal.

>>55184258
According to the Lords of the Sith novel, once Vader's suit is all on and the helmet plugged in, it links in to his nervous system and blocks any existing pain.

>>55184285
This isn't anywhere near the edginess you think it is. And it's nothing new, either. This idea that they've got to corrupt and bend a lightsaber crystal to their will has been a thing for over a year at this point. It was introduced in the Ahsoka novel.

>>55184709
>Nothing new
>A year old
It's as precisely as edgy as I think it is.

>>55178704
i love pretty chewie

>>55181312
mah chiss brother from another mother. you have the best taste. clones and insecticides are best.

>>55184709
>According to the Lords of the Sith novel, once Vader's suit is all on and the helmet plugged in, it links in to his nervous system and blocks any existing pain.

Yeah but that's lame

I prefer anime Vader whose in so much physical pain anyone else would collapse, but he's still walking around and hitting people with his laser stick and being a badass who doesn't give a fuck

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>>55184143
Come on, most of it's written by grubby old baby boomers- war is bad, crystals talk to you, smoke enough weed to blow out Raith Sienar etc

Heck, Yoda's the most stoned motherfucker in the whole franchise and Palps is just someone on too much meth

So my LGS is running a casual escalation tournament tomorrow and I've decided to use Imperials, who I've almost never flown before (but they look fun).

For the first 60 point round I'm looking at Omega Leader because it's fucking awesome, and then either Vessery or Countess Ryad. Which list looks better /swg/:
OPTION 1
Vessery (35)
VI (1)
Tractor Beam (1)
TIE/D (0)
37

Omega Leader (21)
Juke (2)
23

OPTION 2
Countess Ryad (34)
VI (1)
TIE/x7 (-2)
33

Omega Leader (21)
Juke (2)
Comm Relay (3)
26

Basically my decision is between having a fully kitted out Omega Leader round one, or with Vessery who I would consider a better partner for OL, as well as with Bombers etc., who I intend to add later.

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>>55184785
this

>>55183407
The irony is that the more Disney produces it's own Canon the more people start liking Legends.
>It had a lot less ridiculous stuff
As a heads up avoid Legacy of the Force...

Star Wars universe needs Battletech-style mech combat.

>>55185237

You need to stop.

>>55185237
mechs are stupid

>>55185227
The thing is, in "Legends", the shittiest portions were simply ignored. Now, though, they've taken a very strict stance on canon, and it's shitting all over the parts that were actually good about the expanded universe, while also making just as shitty stuff as the shitty stuff in the previous expanded universe.

>>55185237
Some kind of AT-ST game could be interesting, but X-Wing vs TIE Fighter and Rogue Squadron deserve revivals more. Hell, even Starfighter/Jedi Starfighter

Battletech's cool and all, but Star Wars isn't really big on walkers as focal points.

The Forums were talking about The Captain in Guns For Hire, and it got me thinking about merging him with the S&V Podcast's joke list consisting of Nym and 4 Deadman Binayre Pirates.
Then I thought "This is hilarious, but I still need a closer of some kind for 39 points." and this is what I came up with.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Scum%20and%20Villainy&d=v4!s!263:220,243,215:54:26:M.25,M.32;115:-1,111:-1:-1:;115:-1,111:-1:-1:;271:27,193,-1,180,215:57:6:&sn=The%20Hounds&obs=

Captain Jostero — Kihraxz Fighter 24
Expertise 4
Harpoon Missiles 4
Scavenger Crane 2
Vectored Thrusters 2
Guidance Chips 0
Pulsed Ray Shield 2
Vaksai 0
Ship Total: 33

Binayre Pirate — Z-95 Headhunter 12
Dead Man's Switch 2
Ship Total: 14

Binayre Pirate — Z-95 Headhunter 12
Dead Man's Switch 2
Ship Total: 14

Torani Kulda — M12-L Kimogila Fighter 27
Veteran Instincts 1
Seismic Torpedo 2
R5-P8 3
Scavenger Crane 2
Hull Upgrade 3
Enforcer 1
Ship Total: 39

So, Jostero and Kulda are like the buddy cops in the sequel to a buddy cop movie. Jost can work of several of Kulda's upgrades, and Jost's suicide dogs can block off movement and generally get in the way of the enemy to force them into Kulda's bullseye arcs (theoretically anyway. We need to see the dial for sure.)

I could just swap him out for jost and 4 headhunters but this seems more fun.
What does everyone else think?

>>55185367
A friendly reminder that the CGI film is now formally Canon...it's like they don't even care about quality control

>>55185437
Toss Hullupgrade, Seismic and r5p8.

Add Chips, Harpoon, and r4 agromech.

Maybe swap Scav Crane on kimogila to dampeners since he has reload.

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>>55185684
>it's like they don't even care about quality control
Nothing's changed, then.

>>55185690

P8 is for Jostero to use off, same with Seismics. Plus I could just lose the Hull, ditch the Scavenger crane and put Harpoons on as well as Seismics. It's not like you can't use both in a single turn (TL's depending) is it?

Good call on reminding me about Reload though.

>>55185227
>avoid legacy of the force
other than jacen's evil swing making less sense than anakin's shitty reasons, i like most of that time period. the whole postwar "we have to be united against vong-2-electric-boogaloo/next big threat" attitude vs the corellian's "2nd ammendment muh guns muh starships muh militia of the people for the people" attitude, is a neat concept. in a galaxy that was almost destroyed by a species who gave less of a shit about life than sheev, it is a neat discussion on how you move forward from there.

i like the political games as much as the war games on both sides. and asside from the named characters, i like the numerous perspectives of good guys on the badguy side, which we never get from the imperials, except from jag fel.

>>55185789
My biggest problem tho is how ooc Han and Leia are until the end. I liked how some of what happened had genuine gravity to it but I still can't get past
>Hurr Durr let's join our perpetually douchey and Peace Brigade prick family member and his Corellia.
At least Luke notices how odd it is but still.

>>55186103
i can agree, but i saw that as more the wrong person on the right side. both sides had merit, both sides had douchey leaders.

what gets me is leia essentially being a freelance jedi. she doesnt follow the order or commit, and throws around weight she doesnt have. she honestly makes me mad with how much she sways events.

Does anyone have anything that has interesting tidbits you can do with skills in the FFG system? From both a GM and player standpoint.

>>55185192
A fully tricked out omega leader is really hard to beat at 60 points, so I'd start there. 34 can still get Vessery w/ x7 and crack shot or VI. Quickdraw is also an option. With FCS and Frame she runs 33 and you can add stuff on later.

Imagine if the Mega Star Destroyer was a Star Forge rip-off discovered deep in the Unknown Regions, rather than just another even biggererest ship the first order built for no apparent purpose

Dear Star Wars players,

There is no point in Star Wars miniatures gaming, especially wargaming. Here are some reasons:

-Ultra limited faction choices.
-Mandatory canon colour schemes, no your dudes.
-Heavy focus on canon 'hero' characters and scenarios, no your dudes.
-Limited opportunities for fiction, all must be vetted by Disney brass.
-Lore will always drag behind the films, tabletop games will not be able to advance the story independently in any meaningful way.
-Stormtroopers: white spray; gloss varnish. Done. Real great display of skill there.
-All vehicles: grey spray. Basic wash. Done. What a hobby!
-No established player base to support the game and continue its momentum.

In three decades, no game has challenged 40K's position at the top, and you aren't going to now.

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>>55186730
Is this copypasta?

surely nobody could be this wrong, edgy, and smug, all at the same time, on purpose

>>55186728
>Star Forge rip-off
As interesting as that sounds, it would probably need to be heavily modified to pose a threat to even the NR navy.
>Produce only paper-thin starfighters that go down to a couple of laser bolts
>Be rendered completely useless because someone parked a Raider, Lancer, or Tartan in front of your swarm of ancient, outdated starfighters

>>55186597
My thinking for Vessery was that he could use the Tractor Beam/VI to shoot first and then everything shooting the same target would get -1 agility. But you think x7 is the way to go?

>>55186730
Nobody actually thinks Legion will unseat 40K, retard. That doesn't mean it's pointless to Star Wars fans. And there are several orders of magnitude more Star Wars fans than there are 40K fans.

Now go back to your Age of Ultramar containment thread to talk about your exciting new Chad Marines.

>>55186834
Yeah, imagine that as an explanation for where the First Order manages to get all their hardware from. A giant, ancient, evil thing they found in the Unknown Regions, that spits out Star Destroyers and TIE fighters.

>>55186860
>Nobody actually thinks Legion will unseat 40K

Then just play 40K.
And stop fucking complaining.

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>>55186899
>A giant, ancient, evil thing they found in the Unknown Regions, that spits out Star Destroyers and TIE fighters.
Raith Sienar's Outer Rim doomsday bunker?

>>55187008

You mean the TIE-Recomboulator?

>>55186905
>Then just play 40K.
I'm sorry, but this isn't some kind of contest. You don't "win" by playing the game with the most players.
>And stop fucking complaining.
You're the one who shitposted our thread, 40kid.

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>>55183266
I mean as opposed to what, TIE Swarms and 4BZ that just jousted their opponent? 4 x TLT? "Dogfighting" for a certain definition of the term has never actually been that big in competitive X-wing. In fact, the closest the we got to that was wave 5-6 meta with ace + turret and then Palpatine in wave 7-9 with all the aces flying around. So honestly, when was the game all about "dogfighting" in your estimation?

Yeah, the Jumpmaster was a mistake, but it looks like FFG is going to take the final nerfhammer to it. I've been here pretty much since the beginning, and honestly there never was a "golden age" of X-wing. People just bitched about TIE swarms instead, whose domination was so complete people back then said it would ruin the game. Funny how things change. The closest we got was late wave 7, though Scum still pretty much just had Brobots.

>>55187325
>People just bitched about TIE swarms instead, whose domination was so complete people back then said it would ruin the game. Funny how things change.

Then people discovered Fat Han, so we got Autothrusters. Then they released the Phantom and Decimaetor so they completely changed how Cloaking worked. Then they released the Jumpmaster and have spent almost half the games lifetime now trying to put that genie back into it's bottle, indiscriminatingly nerfing literally everything else BUT it in the process. Like a fat fingered fuck trying to dial in the number of a pizza place on his cheap smartphone. So to balance things out they added Palpatine and Sabine.
Then they got bored with Palpatine, not, Palpatine was too good, but they just got bored seeing him in every list. They never really stopped to ask WHY he was in every list, they never remembered WHY they HAD to create Palpatine in the first place (aside from: To sell $100 Epic Ships that nobody ever uses) just that they got bored with seeing it all the time and so they overnerfed it.
Sabine however? No changes. Can't be making stuff from Rebels or NuCanon films less desirable after all. But don't worry, at least Imperials still have X7 Defenders! ...until FFG got bored seeing them all the time as well.

Basically FFG keeps nerfing Imperial lists thinking that they've got an overpowered card because it's all Imperial players use. But, that's not why. It is with U-Boats and Dengar and K3 Security Droids and Nym+"Genius" and Sabine. But with Imperials it's because those were the only even SLIGHTLY competitve builds it was possible to play Imperials with. When it comes to large championships with more than 3 or 4 games in them, there is literally NO competitive Imperial list currently existing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtigV-biVGg

X-Wing players on the FFG forums are entitled as fuck, holy shit.

They got a new wave announced at Gencon and they're already clamoring for when the NEXT new wave will be announced. Hell, a lot of them thought it'd be yesterday.

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>>55187008
ahem,
>Raith's Secret Stash!

>>55187651
Thank god there's something to look forward to on telly, those cunts at Syfy cancelled Dark Matter
No more spess trucking, for a while until The Expanse comes back on sometime

>>55187704

It was more they were expecting the Silencer for X-Wing to get announced yesterday as part of Wave 12, same as it was with the Rogue 1 stuff last year and the TFA stuff the year before that.

It's still not impossible for a Silencer reveal on Monday, but at this point it looks like FFG are actually trying to get some proper information on what the Silencer is and can actually do before putting it into X-Wing for a change.

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>>55187558
>Then people discovered Fat Han, so we got Autothrusters. Then they released the Phantom and Decimaetor so they completely changed how Cloaking worked. Then they released the Jumpmaster and have spent almost half the games lifetime now trying to put that genie back into it's bottle. So to balance things out they added Palpatine and Sabine.

Your timeline there is utterly wrong. Palpatine came out before the Jumpmaster. Fat Han was in response to Phantoms utterly raping everything in the game. Whisper and Echo were the first named pilots not named Howlrunner to be worth it. Autothrusters were developed before the rise of Han, because they knew interceptors were bad even before wave 4.

This honestly makes me wonder if an official history of X-wing meta is needed, just so that dumbfucks actually get it right.

>Like a fat fingered fuck trying to dial in the number of a pizza place on his cheap smartphone.

Honestly, I think FFG does an alright job. Not perfect, far from it, but I keep coming back to X-wing and having a good time. They do iron out the broken stuff over time. And yes they have directly nerfed the JM5K several times now, to the point that only really Dengar is worth it now, and once he loses his torp slots he won't be anymore.

>there is literally NO competitive Imperial list currently existing.

Ah, I get it, you're a salty Imperial player. I understand. You realize this is the first time in the entire games history that Imps haven't had an easy to use, off the shelf list that they can just take and dominate with, right? I can understand the confusion when you can't just look at listjuggler and go "I want to run that" instead of actually list building yourself. I just went 4-1 with Imps at my last SC, and only lost my last game due to making a pair of really stupid mistakes due to exhaustion. I even slaughtered a Nym.

>>55187704
Too be fair, they announced new X-wing product the last two Force Fridays. I also expected an X-wing article.

>>55185684
>CGI film is now formally canon
everything tied to the clone wars was canon

>>55183112
So wait, they ARE using normal AT-AT's as well as AT-M6's?

Also check out the NuBombers in the background

what's up with TLJ and bombers/artillery/planetary bombardment? Are we going to get some Howl's Moving Castle tier anti-War messages?

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>>55188090
>what's up with TLJ and bombers/artillery/planetary bombardment
Maybe it's a sign that we'll finally get a proper ground war in the post-Clone era instead of just another guerrilla conflict or Echo Base 2.0. If you're going to invade a planet, you might as well have a shitton of bombers, arty, and bombardment-capable warships on hand.

>>55188090
>So wait, they ARE using normal AT-AT's as well as AT-M6's?

How else will they show how much BIGGER and more EXTREME the M6s are

>>55183112
WHERE DOES THE MONEY COME FROM?
>galactic empire goes bankrupt building one and a half death stars
>first order with no tax income builds a planet into a death star, builds another death star
>can still afford a fuckton of way bigger walkers
belief status: not suspended

>>55187177
>You don't "win" by playing the game with the most players
if anything, you get more shitty players and less quality ones.

>>55187325
you must be the 'tournament only super-net list' type
or, you got all that info you spouted from the internet. get IRL experience, dood.

>>55188194

Implying it wont just be the FO Echo Basing a Resistance base.

That said, if its the FO assauling a NR city/base that'd be cool to see.

>>55188395
true. Hollywood is creatively bankrupt, we'll get a second ESB

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So nothing new for the x-wing?

>>55188310
man if only they had some sort of STAR FORGE to fill these plot holes
>>55186728

but no, instead we get the Mega-Edge Hyper-Class Star Caliber Hate Engine Mark 8000

>>55188310
Space Soros

>>55188621
Mercer*

>>55181842
RAW, yes. Idk if any dm would allow it, but that is mostly because everyone I play with is either too stupid to figure it out, or too much a power gamer for the dm to trust.

>>55187651
So we're gonna get a new T-65 with a Hera pilot, right?

>>55188783
We'll get a Sabine's X-wing with Sabine, Hera, Rex and Ezra as pilots and the meta will be forever changed by T-65's faking people out by freely switching left 1 banks for right 1 banks and being nigh invulnerable after k-turns.

>>55188783
>no blue squadron x-wings
>no hera x-wing

ffg y

>>55188783

I'd prefer Hera's PS and ability in a U-Wing

>>55188868
>Still no Partisan X-Wing
It's like LucasFilm keeps giving them chances to improve the and re-release the T-65 and they keep passing it up.

>>55187651

Damn, actually looks pretty good.

>>55188339
>get IRL experience, dood.

I've only been playing 4-8 games of X-wing every week for the past 3 years. I've lived what I'm talking about, and so I know that the game has always had this "meta" problem because people keep making one and refuse to come up with their own stuff. Also I've never taken a netlist to a tournament, ever.

New player about to start an Edge of the Empire campaign here.
Having trouble figuring out how good is good enough.

I'm making a hot-shit fighter-jock pilot. I've got that stuff maxed, of course, but I'm not sure about the other stuff. Is just five ability dice enough to be tolerable with a light blaster in a fight?
Is 3 soak with wound threshold 11 enough?

>>55189065
>Is just five ability dice enough to be tolerable with a light blaster in a fight?
Yes.

>Is 3 soak with wound threshold 11 enough?
Yes, especially if you're going to be fighting in a vehicle as often as you can.

>>55189065
http://game2.ca/eote/

Try some 5 green 2 purple rolls, it's plenty

>>55188466

Surprisingly it doesn't look like it. I have to say you would have gotten good odds of there being a TIE Silencer reveal on Friday, but they instead decided to push their dice rolling game.

Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with Destiny, but X-Wing and Armada are best selling and 3rd best selling collectible miniatures games in the world? I'm kind of suprised FFG didn't push them AT ALL for Force Friday.
I don't even think they're going at a discount online anywhere right now.

Maybe this is FFG's way of saying they think Force Friday is bullshit?

>>55189090
>>55189280
Thank you!

Is there any equipment that's mandatory?

>>55189325
Backpack, utility belt Load Bearing equipment, uhhh at least one more carryweight enhancer.

>>55189325
>Is there any equipment that's mandatory?
make sure you have a comlink and a few stimpacks. also, if you have to choose between good armor and a good gun, pick the armor.

>>55189469
and a couple doses of nullicaine too

>>55189325
C O M L I N K

I was in a game where half the party didnt even think to buy a comlink. No one could talk to each other ever.

>>55189325
>absolutely needed
>something to carry more shit
>some kind of comlink
>stimpacks

>recommended
>glow rod
>a few days rations
>binders
>synthrope
>extra reload

If you're not too moral a character, a restraining bolt can be a 35 credit way to get a droid for your team, no guarantees on that working out super well, though.

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>>55188783
Still waiting for those A-wings

>>55189065

5 green is enough raw talent to let you squeak thru boot w/o solid training. you'll be making most shots just fine, until they start throwing in cover/weatther/lighting

>>55189338
Thanks. I only have the core book right now, is there more +encumbrance gear in splatbooks?


>>55189469
Thanks. Armor > gun, roger.

>>55189481
Not seeing that in the core book, where is that?

>>55189519
God, that sounds like a clusterfuck.

>>55189536
Thanks. How difficult is it to bolt a droid without training?

>>55189783
>God, that sounds like a clusterfuck.

Actually it was kinda neat, forced us to think more tactically about things real carefully since we couldnt just update on the fly as a matter of course.

Also just realised youre making a fighter jock.
Might be worth picking up some low level mechanics skills and a toolkit.
It's not something you'll need all the time (or at all ideally) but if youre stranded away from the rest of the group or from repair and resupply, it'd be useful to be able to fix shit up if and when you need to.

>>55189519
>>55189783

It really is amazing when only one player shows up with a comlink. the look on their faces when they crash in the woods and get scattered, and no one can talk to the others is amazing.

>>55189536
>If you're not too moral a character, a restraining bolt can be a 35 credit way to get a droid for your team, no guarantees on that working out super well, though.
Aren't most droids already bolted anyway? And safe removal's a bit of a pain.

>>55189783
>Thanks. Armor > gun, roger.
Your party should have a nice little stash of secondhand blasters after a couple of sessions, assuming you see enough combat.

>Not seeing that in the core book, where is that?
Forged in Battle. Nullicaine allows you to ignore the effects of a crit until the end of an encounter, very handy in emergencies.

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>>55189783
>How difficult is it to bolt a droid without training?
>a process that requires a few seconds and a spot-welder
1 purple, if not zero.

>>55189866
>safe removal's a bit of a pain
"no."
Luke literally pries off R2D2's in half a second with what looks like a small knife.

>>55190062
I seem to recall most RPGs making it a little more complicated if it's not YOUR Restraining Bolt. Like he knew the code and stuff.

>>55190110

That wasnt his bolt - the Jawas put it on there.

>>55190184
And sold it to them. Nobody would let jawas sell them a bolted droid without codes to the bolt.

>>55189469
Is defense better, or is soak better?

>>55190184

The Jawas had sold the droids to the Lars, so I'd imagine they'd have given them the code for the droids.

>>55190255
soak, but you really want as much of both as possible.

>>55190255
They're both good to have. If you're a big lad with lots of brawn grab a riot shield, other than that defense is a hard stat to get.

>>55175797
>Republic disarms during a treaty with a defeated Empire.

This makes little sense.

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>>55190321
>USA disarms during a treaty with a defeated USSR

>>55190321
To be fair, the Rebellion/NR must have spent a fuckton of cash on pulling an overwhelming navy out of its ass (along with all the trained personnel, starfighters, fuel, and ordnance to supply said navy) in the year after Endor. The upkeep and resulting debt must have been pretty fucking nuts.

>>55186730
Reminder that X-Wing sells better than 40K.

>>55190465
A hobby using a ludicrously succesful IP that, other than money, requires no additional investment beyond playing it outsells a hobby with a niche IP (well known, but still niche compared to Star Wars) where the models need to be assembled and painted.

In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet.

>>55187008
>Snoke stumbles upon Raith's vast spice horde and vintage speeder collectio

>>55190633
>Snoke and the aging Raith have been high on everything for the last 30 years
>Even at the weapons procurement meetings
>Especially at the weapons procurement meetings

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>>55190687
OL,
4 Omega pilots with Crack Shot.

>>55190321
Nah it really does make sense, reducing the standing military from wartime levels. Especially since the NR isn't into militarization.

>>55183112
This shit however, does not make sense. I don't even have a problem with the look of the M6 in that picture but

>designs still look almost the same as the OT era, except sometimes a little bit uglier
>like the old version, BUT BIGGER
>no explanation for how the FO is able to afford Starkiller base and any of this other nonsense

I still maintain that Rogue One is a good movie and actually does respect the lore and universe of Star Wars, but the sequel trilogy stuff is kind of upsetting me now. And yet another superweapon in the form of a nucannon Starforge would not fix this for me.

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>>55183112

So, every single thing is "bigger is better"... except starfighters.

Those are the same with different greebles and paint jobs. Shit, all this wanking about more powerful military shit, can't even throw us a bone, get some extra-hulled bombers (Not necessarily TIE/IT levels) in there?

How do you handle your players overshooting what you've prepared for a session?

I have very little confidence in my ability to improvise if I have to fill two hours and am out of notes.

Is there any specialization that offers both Computers and Mechanics?

>>55191432

Increase their cash and XP rewards by at x2, maybe more and then dump them in a black-market with plenty of goodies and enough potential downtime between the next adventure to spend both.
That usually takes about 20 minutes per person for them to scour through the books for obscure goodies they want, and then argue with you and each other over what they can realistically fit inside the ship.

>>55191664
I'm not sure about specializations, but engineer and technician both have them as career skills, and I would expect all of their specializations have one or the other.

And does the BH gadgeteer spec have both?

>>55192005
Most every engineer and technician spec has one but not the other. The gadgeteer is likewise, having Mechanics but not Computers.

>>55192048
What about outlaw tech, or droid tech?

>>55190687
5 omega squadron pilots with Weapons Guidance and Crack Shot.

>>55192083
Thank you, had not checked the splatbooks.

>>55192137
I was just guessing/working from memory, 150 miles from my books.

>>55175682
What do you guys think of this list for X-wing-

- Wookiee Liberator (Trick Shot, Operations Specialist, Intelligence Agent)-30
- Green Squadron Pilot (Juke, Snap Shot, Autothrusters, Chaardan Refit, A-wing Test Pilot)-23
- Green Squadron Pilot (Juke, Snap Shot, Autothrusters, Chaardan Refit, A-wing Test Pilot)-23
- Green Squadron Pilot (Juke, Snap Shot, Autothrusters, Chaardan Refit, A-wing Test Pilot)-23

Everyone moves at PS 3 for maximum movement flexibility, an Opspec on a tanky ship to support the 3 juke snappers, and there is an Intel agent to ensure I can get more snaps off. And a 1 point bid to fuck with FSR.

How is Rebellion? Is it worth $100?

How long's it take to play? How replayable is it?

>>55189644
A Rebels A-wing box also needs a Phoenix Squadron redshirt with a pilot ability that highlights how worthless and expendable he is.

>>55191349
>reducing the standing military from wartime levels

Especially since they've been going like that from the start of the CW. That's 27 years of wartime spending.

>>55188310

You're mixing EU info with Canon info. Everything is bigger now, as it should be. The war, the spending, the resources. It's a good thing.

>>55188194
I love how TCW managed to do protracted conflicts, but with the new movies we get rapid, countdown-till-disaster battles all over again.

>>55188239
It's a moving artillery piece, though. Lucas did the same thing with the SPHA-T. They're both basically turbolaser towers on legs.

>>55189783
Always carry two holdout blasters so you can turn one in to look more trustworthy.

Keep your ship stocked with survival gear and other extra stuff as well.

Do you have any social characters in the group? Get the "Onboard Amenities Unit" modification on your ship. It's fun.

I recommend also getting some type of binoculars for the future.

>>55193759
>>55189783
Also, holdout stunners are fucking cheap and legal pretty much anywhere, get one or two and use them whenever you want low profile, legal 'self defense'

>>55175682
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtigV-biVGg

>>55193796
That's true as well. Another good idea would be to get a regular blaster and put some modifications that give you a bonus to hide it but also another bonus like "Shortened Barrel" or "Filed Front Sight."

>>55193279
>When destroyed, assign one focus token to all friendly ships within range 1-2
Would be funny for the first pilot ability on a non-unique pilot.

>>55183112
I don't mind these designs they remind me of some of the star wars comics I used to read.

>>55193668
WHAT ARE THEY SPENDING?
WHERE ARE THE RESOURCES COMING FROM?

>>55194733
The unknown regions is an untapped resource anon. There's a reason the FO needed riot troopers.

>>55194743
Where did the money come from to start tapping those resources? Where does the labor come from to tap those resources?

>>55194798
The First Order first started out with a bunch of Imperial hardliners, guys at all levels with all sorts of cash.

And then a few years before TFA, it's revealed that a portion of the NR Senate was sending them funds (and maybe even materials).

It's not like these guys went out to the Unknown Regions with nothing, either. They had a pretty decent size fleet when they ventured out there.

>"Most Important Miniatures Game Ever"
>Thread is over a full 24 hours old and is less than halfway to bump limit
Fucking lol

DnD DM screens usual have NPC tables - names, personalities, etc - but the Star Wars ones are dedicated to combat and gear.

Which is ironic, given the systems in question.

Is there a set of Star Wars NPC tables floating around that would make for good DM screen material?

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>>55194733
The Hutt's got a deep dicking and lost all their territory, cash and influence. All their subject species like the Nikto, Weequay and Klatooinians are running buck-wild now they're not owned and a few got convinced by the Centrist/Imperial remnant that now 'they run this shit'- so nearly all the cash from underworld activities now gets channelled back to the remnant so they can go build weird shit in the unknown regions.
Essentially, proceeds of organised crime and if you need >>55194798 labour, I'm sure they're also happy to help out with a steady stream of "volunteers" and younglings

Course who and how sold them that shit is entirely left open to any kind of hypothetical as the New Republic™ doesn't seem to have any kind of intelligence services what so ever!

>>55195305
>empireboos
>trusting non-humans
This isn't the fell empire, lad.

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>>55195334
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodline_(novel)

Its not my 'favourite' book but one of the slightly better ones from the current crop of novels, has a few cool characters and Leia in it and gives some insight as to why Leia got the gang back together to form the Resistance

>>55195220
The title is a shitpost based on some clickbait some star wars youtube channel posted.

It's ironic.

>>55175797
>disarmament treaty

christ, new lore is such shit. The Old EU Republic vs Imperial Remnant made much more sense. This shit is just so Disney could bring the setting to outgunned rebels vs str0nk empire again even though ROTJ would have made it the opposite.

>>55186730
All the people saying legion will topple 40k are the overexcited fanboys who go around with the intention of starting fights, kind of like you, the game isn't designed to be a hobby heavy thing like 40k or Sigmar, the boring, simple design of everything was probably a deliberate thing so as to not scare off the normies they're trying to integrate into the hobby from X-Wing since they don't actually know anything about wargames aside from kiting minis around a board and rolling dice until someone runs out of minis. It's not the kind of thing that's really going to be competing with GW since they have different focuses.

>>55195462
The old EU was a fucking tangled mess of garbage.

>>55183112
I have no idea why the First Order can be stronger than the Empire, building 60km SSD's and planet-sized death stars.

FO should have been improvised/older tech. TIE Crawler's for instance. Or stuff from the clone wars they salvaged, maybe they have a lot of Droid fighters due to manpower issues.

>>55189644
>Sabine Wren
>in an A-wing?

mai waifu. would fuck the shit out of her. then her A-wing. then her in the A-wing.

also, why isn't her ship neon pink, yellow, and orange?

>>55195486
Nu EU is the Old EU but worse

Starkiller Base is worse Suncrusher
Mega Star Destroyer is worse Eclipse
First Order is worse Imperial Remnant
Kylo Ren is worse Jacen Solo
Rei is worse Jaina Solo

At least post-Jedi EU didn't try to reset everything so it could do the OT over and over again. Yuuzhan Vong Invasion was far more entertaining than TFA.

>>55195520

It was a loaner

>>55175682
sup /swg/, I have a question.

A couple of months ago, my X-wing collection got stolen. I'm re-buying it back now.

I started buy buying someone else's collection, but it was a lot smaller.

Now I'm looking for three types of things that will probably be prohibitively expensive to buy on their own- do you know if I can trade for them or the like?

- large quantites of specific ships- Is there somewhere else that I should go besides emailing a store and asking for a discount on a bulk order?

- Upgrade cards that are in expansions of ships that I don't want- I'm re-buying my collection, and that collection was mostly empire.

- Acrylic sets- Where is a good place to get a full acrylic set that matches the FFG stuff? I had won a full set of acrylic everything on my own, and looking at the prices of all of it on ebay, I'm not happy paying those prices.

>>55195487
this is a very smart post.

>>55195563
ebay lots kind of sell ships w/o cards

cards...man, that was a loss. sorry.

>>55195526
I as a completely unrelated anon with no valued opinion nor vested interest in the outcome of any discussion based in the this subject would like to state that I disagree. Completely and utterly.
Good day.

>>55195526
>Yuuzhan Vong Invasion was far more entertaining than TFA
Holy fuck this is sad. Someone actually believes this?

>>55195563
there is an active normiebook buy/sell/trade group that is good for scouring information on templates/accesories

>>55195603
The issue is that I want those upgrade cards. They stole my epic ships, and every ship I had that wasn't in my large ship case, along with all upgrade cards and tokens.

That ended up meaning that what I had left was 6 large base ships with no upgrades.

I ended up offering them all (they were all repainted) to the charity auction that just went up, and now I'll probably sell the ones that they didn't have space on the site for.

And after I buy this other guy's collection, I'll still be 26 ships short of where I was, and I'll still need to repaint everything all over again.

>>55195674
What's the page called.

>>55186860
>Nobody actually thinks Legion will unseat 40K
but it will
easily in NA probably in the first few months, will take a bit longer in Europe, UK will take the longest

>>55195123
Okay. I've considered the state of the First Order military to be a lost cause for awhile now but I would accept an attempt to salvage them if in the next movie they establish:

1) That the First Order has found and built up a power base in a collection of untapped resource-rich systems in the Unknown Regions. So in other words, a Starforge level asset without throwing in another dumb superweapon.

2) That the First Order military is numerically smaller than the New Republic military. This is important. The New Republic is huge, even when lightly militarized they should outnumber the FO. Now that we have all out war and none of this pseudo original trilogy Resistance crap there is an opportunity for a transition that makes sense.

3) The FO is able to keep up with the New Republic with more advanced military tech (as the NR military has become stagnant), quality over quantity, and a military that is both better trained and better organized. Even though I don't like what they're doing, this will help explain the BUT BIGGER vehicle and ship designs we're getting out of Disney.


Starkiller, the Resistance, and a fair bit of TFA feel unsavable at this point but this would be a decent course correction to me if they did it.

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>>55195835
>What's the page called.
this is the page

>>55195899

Honestly, detailed exposition might be a bit clunky for a film - especially since many movie goers won't care, but I'll be happy just if they acknowledge some of this shit.

>"Where the kriff did this giant space wing come from?"
>"I dunno we need to figure out where all this tech bullshit comes from!"

And then hopefully novels sweep in and actually give it the "Oh, Rothana is a KDY subsidy who exist in the outer rim and built all this shit for the clones on the downlow for a few years" treatment

>>55196010
That falls to the despairing hands of Pablo and the writers to turn JJ's stupidity into coherent stories and background.

>>55196124

Well, that's not necessarily any different, at least - It's not like GL actually explained where say, all the Clone Trooper's hardware (including ships and shit) came from in his films either.

>>55195844
Hahahahahaha

Shit I don't even play 40k anymore and this is hilarious that people really believe this

>>55187783
>I just went 4-1 with Imps at my last SC

Okay I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, what did you take?

>>55195526
>Yuuzhan Vong Invasion was far more entertaining than TFA.
Woah. I know TFA wasn't everyone's cup of tea but let's not get silly.

>>55195668
Better? Debatably. Definitely had some genuine high points, Vong themselves are a fustercluck but they're at least more compelling than a lot of the FO shit especially now we're in full retcon mode.
But more entertaining? That's almost objectively true. I can't imagine someone saying with a straight face New Hope But Shit is less entertaining than cenobyte biotech pain-sluts

>>55196814
*more entertaining
fug it it's late

>>55195526
Kylo is actually pretty fucking great, about the only thing from TFA worth using in other shit.
Like, the Darth Columbine routine is 120% exactly what a dark sider *should* be like, it's perfect, and the actor actually pulls it off really well

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>>55197478
while we are at it:

Finn would be great if not for the shit role the screenwriters forced him into.
yes. Ex-Stormtrooper, turns traitor and is on the run. has adventures with this escaped RebAce, and they eventually run into a fledgling jedi. he's no pacifist, but he doesn't wanna shoot civilians.

instead, he's a PG rated BBC advocate.

>i need pic related to get plot armor and return in TLJ

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>>55197478

>>55190465
It's also the only big deal in prepainted miniatures.
There are already starwars prepainted soldier games.
Remind me where they are again in the rankings?

>>55197576
God, they could have done some really cool stuff with Finn and the First Order's indoctrination thing. But instead they decided to focus on Rey instead.
Also, I seriously don't understand how they fucked up so badly that despite Phasma being marketed as the "Boba Fett" of the sequel trilogy, some random Stormtrooper ends up being the fan favorite instead. Did anyone who read the script truly think she'd be popular when all she does is get used humiliated by her ex-subordinate?

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>>55197691
this exactly.
also, see this promo poster

might HE be back???

>>55197706
>Random asian
Gotta appeal to that chinee market. :V

>>55197796
Did she show up in TFA? Because literally everyone else in the poster is already an established character, and I'm now wondering why the fuck she's on there. Hell, for that matter why is pickaxe trooper on there too, unless they really want to cash in on the TR-8R bucks Which would honestly be one of the best decisions nuwars has made, even if it would be kinda stupid

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>>55197796
Star Wars has had Asians since at least RotJ. Granted, TLJ's Asian will almost certainly never be as cool as this guy.

>>55197893
>pilots a y-wing
This guy has balls to fly in the battle of endor on those antiquated machines

>>55198627
Well, don't know about disney shit, but old canon had Y-wings as the workhorse of the Alliance, simply because it was the only starfighter they could get their hands on in large numbers. They had more Y-wings than any other starfighter (possibly any other starfighter combined? Need confirmation on that though).

>>55190615
>In other news, the sky is blue and water is wet

It's actually pretty news worthy given how few the moments have been over the past 30 years that Warhammer wasn't at the top.

It'll be brief though, I give it 3 years tops, especially with how GW's been reinventing itself lately.

>>55191357
That TIE variant looks like the type of thing you take home from a pet store and feed every day in the hopes it'll someday become a bomber.

>>55198715
The question is, will it end because GW reforms into a much better company or will it end because X-wing hits terminal feature bloat and power creep?

>>55195844
I seriously doubt that it'll even be able to reach Armada's level.

Xwing got big in part because of the illusion of being cheap (it costs half as much to start as most games but the minis overall cost the same as everything else), coupled with a constant stream of new models.

Now tell me, with an entry level price point that's the same as every other major game instead of being only half, and miniatures that by their nature are doomed to be extremely limited in their numbers veriety wise, how exactly are they going to have constant waves coming out like with Xwing and not instead like Armada?

It'll be lucky to be in 3rd place.

>>55196661
Maarek: VI, Flechette Cannon, /D
Rexlar: Adapt, Ion Cannon, /D
Scimitar: Fleet Officer, Ops Spec

It does quite well against current meta, I haven't had a game where I didn't get Rexlar's ability off meaningfully, and the list gives you the focus tokens to not die horribly most of the time.

>>55198742
I think it'll be a bit of both. GW's resent changes are ones that overall I think have been positive. New subfactions we never would have thought would get armies only 2 years ago, the rules being streamlined, price of entry being lower then in decades, actual value packs, and the plot actually advancing are just a few things they've done.

Add to that the fact Star Wars seems to be on the decline as the hype train dies (as all do over time) and I think it's safe to say X-wing will end up being a fad in ttg.

>>55188868
>>55189005
I'm afraid to repaint my x-wings.
I worry that if I do anything from either cannon it will just be what ever I painted, rendering my effort redundant.

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>>55199048
>I worry that if I do anything from either cannon their eventual power up release will be whatever I painted
I'm too tired to post right.

>>55195487
I see your point, but I wouldn't call them stronger. Building one giant big dicked ship may actually cost less than building a fuckton of star destroyers, and we all know which one ends up being more effective in the long run.

Just like fanboys, they focus on the flashy stuff over the practical.

>>55198903
Star Wars has been popular for at least ten years longer than 40k. The hype train is never coming off the rails.

>>55198715
If nothing else, we have FFG to thank for forcing GW to innovate and reinvent itself. Without the serious challenge X-wing posed, they might have remained the solitary figure atop the tower, and never felt the need to change.

>>55196418
He didn't really need to though, there was an entire Galactic Republic to call upon. Like you don't have to explain how a Galactic Empire can build a Death Star.

When the Galactic Empire falls and these dudes just come out of nowhere, it's weird and incoherent.

>>55197706
Well, they did rewrite the script "to give a popular character more screentime" if i recall correctly

>>55199181
>I see your point, but I wouldn't call them stronger. Building one giant big dicked ship may actually cost less than building a fuckton of star destroyers, and we all know which one ends up being more effective in the long run.

Tarkin Doctrine out out reee

Should defense / shields do more than just add a setback die?

What if added automatic failures instead?

>>55200339

There's some houserules in the OP stuff for making shields a bit less pointless on ships.

If you mean at an interpersonal level, I think that stuff tends to be pretty decently balanced out. Though in fairness, I havent played or run enough high-level play to see shields and defence on characters get much use.

>>55186730
>In three decades, no game has challenged 40K's position at the top, and you aren't going to now.

And that is the whole reason why GWS is at deep trouble, and dissipating its fanbase. Also, there is no need to challenge W40K as GWS is driving it of the cliff.

Otherwise, if people like you would take their heads out of ass, you could look the whole industry, and see that new big budget game is good for everyone, as it brings to people to the hobby. It's not zero sum game.

>>55190343
Not official. Ice station Zulu from Order66 podcast has fan made stats.

>>55190669
>Snoke: now that fighter jocks have tailgunners to always win dogfights, they're going after capital ships for a challenge but can't do squat without bombers
>Raith, still up and about at 95 due to his blood being mostly glitterstim: let's make a TIE that can take out an MC80
And so the TIE/SD was born: an Imperial-class with fuckhueg solar panels like on the Raider corvette, a full squadron's worth of which are housed in Snoke's >>55179311 bachelor pad

>>55198707
Nucanon they are relics from the clone wars that the rebels stole from scrap yards, found in old clone bases or bought second hand. Basically just slightly refurbished junk.

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>>55200624
>Basically just slightly refurbished junk
You can't be saying things like that around here, it angers the blood

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>>55200567
wouldn't be suprised (pic related is a leaked concept art drawn by JJ Abrams himself)

>>55197706

...what the fuck is going on with Rey's Lightsaber? She is clearly not holding it straight and yet the beam seems to think it is.
Tell me this isn't a real poster. This is just some shit someone has shat out with 12 minutes on Photoshop in their mothers basement like all those Fake Trailers you see on Youtube.

Because holy fucking christ, this is bad composition. Fucking Gods of Egypt had a better poster than this. GODS OF EGYPT.

>>55200975

Fuck now I can't unsee the bent saber.

>>55200982

HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE SEEN IT ALREADY. IT'S LITERALLY THE CENTRAL VISUAL CONCEPT OF THE ENTIRE POSTER.

AND ITS WRONG.

played against FSR for the first time last night.


I dislike FSR.

>>55200991

Honestly, I pretty much just wasnt looking at her.
I was getting off on the A-wings, primarily.

Looking for good Star Wars music that doesn't come from Star Wars for this game I'm running.

It can be anything from stuff like Klendathu Drop to more obtuse stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp3BlFZWJNA

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>>55200975
Holy shit, that's some amateur hour nonsense.

>>55201041
>Star Wars music that doesn't come from Star Wars

Shadows of the Empire Soundtrack works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vuXdSLirnM&list=PL52216F97F15A201A\

Also, recommend the Last Starfighter, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner's & Alan Silvestri's Sci-Fi movie soundtracks, and some of the Gundam and Macross soundtracks (especially the ones composed by Yoko Kanno)

>>55201077
>Shadows of the Empire Soundtrack works.
That falls under the 'from Star Wars' thing. I'm looking for music outside the franchise as a whole.

>>55201041

You could try the Clone Wars stuff since that doesnt use the SW film stuff and is its own thing which is thematically similar.

If you want things that are in no way connected to Star Wars but still sound Star Wars... anything John Williams has written would probably do it.

>>55201077
>especially the ones composed by Yoko Kanno
You recommend Yoko Kanno without mentioning the Escaflowne OST? Be ashamed, anon!

>>55201230
I hope this link and my death restore the honor of my family

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_49H_N43jQ

http://xwingtactics.blogspot.com/2017/09/nationals-top-8-breakdown.html?m=1

So Armada Nationals just happened, and the winning list was Rieekan Aceholes, because like its commander, that list refuses to fucking die, apparently.

But thankfully, unlike pre-nerf, the top 8 lists were not ALL Rieekan Aceholes. In order:

>Rieekan Yavaris Aceholes
>Ackbar HMC80
>Ackbar HMC80
>Cracken 6x Hammerhead Swarm
>JerJerrod 2x ISD-1
>Ackbar HMC80
>Rieekan HMC80
>Motti ISD-2 + Demolisher

The MC80 lists were all pretty different, with different upgrades, anywhere from four to seven activations, from two to seven squadrons, and from a zero to an 18 point bid.

>>55201041
>Looking for good Star Wars music that doesn't come from Star Wars

This gets asked like every other thread - the objectively correct answer is Gustav Holst, a classical composer whom Star Wars' soundtrack was all but based upon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bcRCCg01I

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>>55200975
>movie posters are shit

This is not new information

it's usually newsworthy when a poster manages to NOT be shit, and the simpler/fanmade "minimalist" ones are almost always the best ones.

>>55201434
>No Imperials top 4
>Only 2 in top 8

This is how the Empire went down in one year isn't it?

>>55201007
Nobody does. Play Dash or Nym and shit on it. Nowadays whatever I play I specifically tailor to curb FSR and quad TLT because they are the most obnoxious garbage to ever appear in X-Wing.

>>55201434
Compared to Worlds it looks a lot better. I guess the nerf worked?

In other news, I played my first real game of armada yesterday.

>>55201780
>>55201712
One thing that was pointed out was that most of the top players were running lists they'd played for months, even if they'd been trying out fresh lists in recent smaller tournaments.

Possibly the nerfs to Demo and Rhymer disrupted the Imperial lists veteran players were comfortable with?

Whereas, the Ackbar MC80 and acehole lists haven't been affected much by anything that's come out in a while, including the errata.

>>55201758
I play Scum, with a slight dabble in Imperials with Interceptor Aces. I've been concentrating on running a Boba/Kath list lately, with maybe 2/3 success rate. I only JUST beat FSR in my second game last night by using Interceptors, by splitting the group with bumps and tricksy flying near board edges.
I'm trying to resist the lure of a Scurrg, as I suck with bombs, but... It's tempting.

>>55201780
>In other news, I played my first real game of armada yesterday.

How was it?

>>55201894
It's possible. I suppose I'm just salty right now. The local meta has been full of bitching about how Sloane and BTAvenger are OP, the Quasar should have been a rebel release, and Demo wasn't nerfed hard enough - yet here's another event where the Empire barely squeaks into the standings.

>>55201758
How does Crackswarm fair against FSR? I'll probably ask someone local to play it against me closer to regionals, but until then, i'm wondering how to deal with it in an imperial swarm.

I'm thinking 5x Omega Squadron with Weapons Guidance might work well, since they can break formation and have consistent 2-damage hits in the late-game as well.

>>55178957
https://youtu.be/31JNEVHZxO8

You might enjoy this.

>>55202593
Thing are hard all over, ever since the ghostbusters reboot people have been complaining that they're not ready and dont understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YxJZffezM0

>>55201949
It was fun. I had Vader, ISD2, Combat Interdictor, Gozis and some fighters vs Reikann, MC80, MC30, CR90, and some fighters. It was both our first times so it was suitably sloppy, messy, and awkward.

>>55202059
You'll have a hard time breaking through all the tokens and damage spreading. Jess can reliably one shot ties and you'll just lose the war of attrition. Give it a shot, it could work better if you hit them from multiple angles and get behind the formation.

>>55202876
Doing some quick math, on an initial joust, I should do 7 damage distributed amongs the FSR with Crack, but the question is if that distribution is useful.

On subsequent rounds with no crackshot and Rex shitting things up, just over 3 damage a round to the squad.

This is with the 5 omegas, so that I an approach from multiple angles, and have the shield to not get 1-shot by Jess.

Thoughts? Would you swap 2 of them to an ace that can token stack?

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>>55201015

...fair enough.

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>>55201007
I honestly didn't think Biggs needed any more of a nerf, but goddamn that list makes me think so now.

>>55201758
I've had good success with Miranda with Ion Torps against it. Make sure you get the TL on the ship with selflessness, and you'd be surprised how quick they go down. You have a decent chance of killing Jess with two five-dice attacks. The ion sets you up nicely to bomblet their whole list too, especially if you can catch them before they turn in. I have a bomber Ahsoka in there as well, so there's a decent chance of sniping Rex too.

>>55201894
>One thing that was pointed out was that most of the top players were running lists they'd played for months

Makes sense. You don't take something new to a tournament you're probably spending upwards of $1,000 to go to. You take what you're practiced and comfortable with.

I myself have been having some good success in practice games with Sloane and two Victories with disposable capacitors and quad batteries, supported by a Dengar/Howlrunner TIE swarm and a Quasar. The list has excellent objective choices, so I don't usually mind going second. Gonna try it at the next local tourny.

>>55202000
>BTAvenger

That thing one-shot one of my Victories when I played it a few weeks ago, killing with the ram. I was kinda pissed. It's a damn good ship with little that can actually stop it from doing what it wants to do.

Sloane is merely the Imperials finally getting a decent commander for their TIE swarms. Quasar is an Imperial ship, FFG is good about not falling for one-offs in the lore being in the wrong faction.

I honestly kinda liked the Demo nerf, it means I no longer feel obligated to spend 8 points on ETs, and can take medical team.

>>55203704
BTVenger can one-shot almost anything with a double arc, including other large bases with good rolls.

>>55203851
He didn't get a double arc. He had SW-7s, and got a double hit with red dice with no misses. Still took the double ram to kill, but I don't begrudge people hating that ship. First ISD build that really leverages its speed 3 as well.

>>55175682
To help fight against FSR, I'm thinking of bringing back Superdash. I'm also looking at Nym as a wingman for him-

What's the best 42 point superdash to bring as a wingman for Rebel Nym?

Bomblet and VI are a given, engine and FCS? Advanced sensors and cruise and chips?

>>55204177
Assuming you are already running Autoblaster, and that you meant a 42 point wingman for dash? That leaves 6 points to play with.

I'd be torn between LRS+Cruise+Sensors and EU+FCS myself- You need to use your nym to get rid of PS8+ repositioners so that dash can clean up. Shame you don't have a single point to run Sensors+EU.

>>55204177

For Dash? I saw the British #3 rolling around with Lone Wolf and Rey last week. Not sure if he had anything else on him.

>>55204285
Typo'd,
>>55204280
has it right. I'm looking for a 42 point Nym to fly alongside my Superdash, since with FSR, the double-reposition is likely going to be super helpful.

Or really any good 42 point wingman for Dash. Shame that Intensity Poe costs 45 fully geared.

>>55202876
>I had Vader, ISD2, Combat Interdictor, Gozis and some fighters vs Reikann, MC80, MC30, CR90, and some fighters. It was both our first times so it was suitably sloppy, messy, and awkward.

It took me and my group each probably around a dozen games before we stopped ramming two of our own ships together at least once per match, it's a good pain.

>>55186730
I just want a bunch of stormies and scouts so i can kitbash them and make the orange dot dudes drawn by cam kennedy in the first issue of dank empire.

t. Guy with 200+ guardsmen and 80something marines.

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Who is the Euron Greyjoy of Star Wars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0vqPGK8IPI

>>55204999
Hondo?

>>55204999
the general space

For all those playing/playing against FSR, what's the standard makeup out of curiosity?

>>55180785

Why would I seize a planet?

I capitulate, sell the ship, pay the crew their retirement, buy myself a smaller luxury vessel and cross the stars with a little fortune living a comfy life of procastination

>>55204999
Xizor, maybe?

>>55205596
Rex
Biggs w/ R4-D6, integrated
Lowhrick w/ draw their fire
Jess w/ R2-D6, selflessness

That's the basic model, plus you have a few extra points to tech for certain matchups. Autos vs integrated on Hess, tactician/chopper vs commandos on Low, etc

>>55205865
Xizor's probably the perfect fit.

>comes from a long line of pirates (just crime lords in Xizor's case)
>pretends to suck up to legitimate power in order to get ahead
>wants to give his big cock to princesses/queens

So, let's say Disney decides to make all the money tomorrow, and basically makes something akin to Kancolle with Star Wars (Ships/Vehicles into waifus. And maybe husbandos, I don't know.) for mobile

What's your starting lineup? For those who don't know, these things usually have a 1-5 star rating system (which resembles your CCG rarities, Common for 1 Star, SSR for 5 Star). Who makes up your highest rarity level, and how many would you put in at start (keeping in mind these usually have a rarity of like 1% occurrence, to make you spend waifubux), and who are your 1 stars, the trashy filler characters you roll to actually play the game mostly while you wait for the gacha capsules to spit out a top tier waifu?

>>55206111
AT-RT harem for filler squad, TIE Interceptor waifu for the standby that's solid but won't crash the meta with no survivors, Venator and Lucrehulk top waifus

>>55199258
Given the fact Star Wars merchandise from 2 years ago is collecting dust on store shelves, I doubt Star Wars has been the success Disney was hoping it would be.

>>55206389
Disney made back the purchase price off merchandise before TFA even hit theaters or some shit

>>55206389
>third and twenty second highest grossing films OF ALL TIME
>pff, look at this smidgen of merch that wasn't sold, star wars is dying

>>55206405
With how little merchandise is actually moving, I seriously doubt they made 4 billion in profit in that time. If they did, they sure aren't making that type of money now.

>>55206429
>Movies did well
>Therefore merchandise not selling well isn't a problem

You evidently know nothing of Disney

>>55206449
Except merchandise is selling well.
You're acting like it's Post-TPM levels when that's definitely not the case.
Also at what point is making more profit than every film on the surface of the earth except for two whose director your company ALSO basically owns just 'doing well'

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hey, what model of ship is this thing from rogue Squadron and are there higher res pictures of it?

>>55206476
>You're acting like it's Post-TPM levels

That would be a step up at this point given how little of it is moving. You don't see most of the merchandise from 2 years ago mostly still on shelves despite new shipments not coming in during that time without there being a problem.

It's selling, sure, but it isn't on the level of The Avengers or D.C., and outside of Xwing and Armada it certainly isn't anything that could be called a success story.

Hell even the movies are under-performing compared to expectations. Disney's insiders actually thought TFA would brake 3 billion, something only ANH did after you adjust for inflation. It made a lot of money, but not anywhere near what Disney thought it would. And then there's RO, which just barely broke the billion mark, something that is assured to be less then what Disney was hoping for.

When you add the reaction to TLJ so far and the less then expected sales level of the merchandise to that, Disney very clearly isn't getting as much milk from this cow as it had hoped, even if it has made its money back.

It wanted another Marvel but only got Iron Man instead.

>>55206628
You heard it here first, folks. Star Wars is a dead franchise. Han Solo movie confirmed for direct-to-DVD (not even Blu-Ray!).

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>>55206744
>It's massively under-performing
>Therefore it's dead

Guess Warhammer died a decade ago.

>>55206111

Your mid-tier OC starter waifu should be some kind of YT-chan, obviously.

I wanted to say ISD-chan for SSR, but no, smart money is make the regular one an SR so you can reasonably roll one F2P and get a decent ship, and then for your limited run "Thrawn's Revenge" Banner, SSR Chimera-chan. Who is blue and also some kind of mecha-monster girl. Whales will spend lodsemone on it.

>>55206804
not a great example because honestly, yes. they have a niche market and almost no increase in player base. they are stable because they have a foundation, but they have no out reach or plans on doing anything with the franchise other than a game and books. they act like the tabletop game version of Halo.

in this case its more, bare dirt doesnt make a yard. disney isnt really making money on this franchise, and neither is gw for 40k or fantasy (since 40k is the flagship of the two)

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>>55206384
ISD-chan is best girl.
She may be stern, but she loves you and is fiercely loyal and strong.

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>>55206111
How about mimicking XWM's starship progression trends?
>low-tier filler
Generic small capitals, small vehicles, freighters, and starfighters would fill this niche. Think generic Xs, Pinooks, TIEs, CR90s, YTs, etc.
>highest rarity level
This is where most unique, big-name ships and rare hulls reside. Here's where you'd see Bacta War X-wings, 181st Interceptors, the Tantive IV, Otana, Chimaera, Home One, the Executor, etc.

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>>55207342
Blatantly wrong choice made for boys. Real men know Lucrehulk-san is best. Sure, she's kinda big and a tad controlling but she has way more experience and will take care of you like no one can. Plus, for men who know what they want, her size is a plus.

And her kids, while grown up and independent, are still great when they visit.

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>>55207576
>Lucrehulk
>best
Not even close.

>>55207576
i dont know, i heard luker-chan is a slut because she lets slave boys get waaaay up inside her, especially on their first time flying. she shows them her reactor, for shame

>>55207608
MODS!
this is a blue board you asshole, mark as NSFW if you have pictures that sexy.

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>>55208002
>NSFW
You ain't seen nothing yet, anon.

Is it just me, or are starfighers both horrifically expensive and highly likely to explode after two shots?

>>55206628
>it made a lot of money
>third
>most
>profitable
>film
>on
>planet
what """"insiders""""" are you quoting, the ones in your ass?

>>55208669

Homerule that shit, check the OP for some versions of it.
Starfighter combat is pretty deadly.

>>55208722
>It made the 3rd most non-adjusted revenue of any movie
>Disney expected it to be 1st by a significant margin

If you actually followed anything about Star Wars in 2015 you wouldn't even have to ask "where did you get the information everyone is talking about?"

>>55208561
i just came

The literal fuck is the difference between Vigilance and Perception?

>>55208833
>it only made quadruple gold-plated platinum diamonds
>the fact it didn't make quintuple gold-plated platinum diamonds means the franchise is D E A D
wew
also the attempt to pull 'n-newfag' is cute

>>55209282
You definitely didn't follow any of the discussion in the year leading up to TFA, that's for sure.

And let me ask you this: if you're a shareholder in a company, and your biggest project of the year performs a full 33% lower then what you'd been assured it would make, tell me, are you happy you made 67% of what you'd been promised? Because if so you'd be a rare exception.

>>55205994

I faced a weird variation of this in my last game of a Store Championship last Saturday.
He was running Selflessness Lowrick with 3PO and Tactician, Wulfarrawo with Tactician (and an EPT I think? Preds maybe? I dunno) and M3-G8 Jess.
It was incredibly hard to grind down with my Dash-Nym build, but if I'd have taken even a jot of stress deal I could have caused it to collapse I feel. As it was I just could do damage faster than he could unfortunately. Oh well, I got an Omega Leader and Crackshot card out of it.