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chaos and imperial units are basically the same edition &g

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chaos and imperial units are basically the same edition

>Death Guard stuff from White Dwarf
http://imgur.com/a/90wRO

>Konor Campaign, dead even, hours to go. Win for Ultramar!
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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Does anyone have a copy of the eye of night or hand of darkness audio dramas?
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>>55155737
>blacklibrary.com
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>>55155724
>Konor campaign ends on 9/11
>Morty is trying to crash a death planet into Konor
holy fuck GW chill out
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>>55155737
Piggybacking here, anyone have the horusian wars audiobook?
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Same question as last thread; what's your favorite Knight-Titan variant?
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>>55155729
Daily reminder that chaos lost EoT
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>>55155759
>9/11 was 16 years ago
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>>55155729
Let's start the thread off nice and friendly
Tell me what your favorite faction to play against is and why?
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>>55155729
I have been out of loop. Any words about plastic SoB?
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>>55155759
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>>55155759
CRASHING THIS PLANET WITH
N O S U R V I V O R S
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>>55155729
TEN DAYS TO BLEED THE SECTOR DRY! LETS DO THIS LADS!!
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>>55155759
>superior british skill at international bantz
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>>55155776
Not according to what happened in the results. The Imperium never won anything except Medusa and they will lose this campaign too because they can't fight and trolled their xenos allies too much.
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>>55155759
Oh fuck.
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>>55155767
Looted ones, as well as those converted for the Greater Good
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>>55155782
I don't mean that's it's too soon or in bad taste.
I think it's hilarious.
>>55155811
I love that this Daemon Primarch of Nurgle has done the most Slaaneshi thing I've seen.
You know what's inevitable about a death planet with rockets warp magic'd onto it being sent to crash into your opponents planet while affecting everything it comes within the vicinity of with Nurgle's Rot?
Absolutely nothing.
Know what's Slaaneshi about it?
Every fucking thing.
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Has anyone used the Ork bubblechukka yet? It seems like it could be fairly decent and fun, with out being just flat terrible like most of Orks "lol so randum" stuff tends to be.
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>>55155791
Haven't faced many, but out of the few I've faced, Space Marines provided the most interesting games.

Faced Space Marines, Grey Knights, Death Guard, Imperial Guard, and Tyranids so far.
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>>55155791
Despite the stigma, i like seeing summoning lists in action.
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What's with people making threads that don't show up when you filter for 40k?
Can't expect everybody to come from the old thread
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>>55155767
Warden is my favorite, but castigator is a better version.

I love em all man
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>>55155855
Yes yes gud goy
Space Marines are the best! Especially Primaris
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>>55155886
Carnac searches for 40k.

It's a cheap filter.
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>>55155791
I honestly like fighting the Salamanders.
They're my best friend's faction and they're strong.
I like strong opponents.
Also I like that they're generally a friendly faction and have a fire thing going on.
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>>55155854
its a ton of fun, but slightly annoying to resolve in large numbers.
And actually surprisingly good. All your opponent really decides is the second dice roll, as when he gets to the last one, there's no other choices.
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>>55155855
>>55155791
I can say I prefer armies that have a number of individually powerful units, rather than horde.
MC nid armies are always fun, GK and DW always feel like a desperate battle against giants of their kind, who is hunter and who prey, Deldar haemonculi armies are always weird and kinda terrifying if you imagine what their eldritch weapons are doing to your dudes, Admech and Harlequin forces are frankly frightening when you realize what they are doing in lore as they rip you apart with inhumane warriors.
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>>55155829
Legions helping with the war effort sign off!
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>>55155758
>Paying for Black Library books published after 2007 that don't have the name Haley, Wraight or Annandale on them
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>>55155930
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>>55155930
Emperor's Children, won my store this week, it was kind of a 1v1 between me and the store owner trying to paint more models and win more games against each other before time ran out,, in the end my recently completed Dark Apostle tipped the store in Chaos' favour for this last week that passed.
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>>55155907
That was what I thought to, when it fires, you just do one role for the entire unit don't you? Or is it per gun?
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>>55155801
Outside of the Celestine trio and Veridyan, no.
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>>55155930
Pavore Dominetur, faggot.
I can't wait until the Ordo Sinister feature in the Siege of Terra.
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>>55155930
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Reminder to make grenade launcher guard for when CA takes a shit on plasma and you need a cheap, all around solid weapon.
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>>55155983
you deploy the battery as one, but each gun and each set of 5 crew is its own seperate unit.
so a full 5 gun battery counts as 10 units.
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>>55155767
Atrapos is pure undiluted raep. Also looks the best of the bunch though I like Magaera and Styrix as well. Just wish we'd get real fucked up Dark Mechanicum Bots soon.
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>>55156002
Ain't scared of you nigga!
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>>55155759
>Konor ends on 9/11
>Mortarion isn't released until 9/16
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I'm not going to buy any more models until I've painted all my Thousand Sons by the end of this year lads. I've had them since January this is ridiculous.
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>>55155850

How is that slaaneshi?
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>>55155930
>"helping"
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>>55156006
What's it like living in your own little fantasy?
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>>55156091
It's excessive, it's probably fast, and it's over the top.
Also I love it.
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>>55155759
More like that shit was almost twenty years ago so only American's still give a shit or even think twice about the date.
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>>55155791

Tau actually, but that's because everyone I know who plays this game but that guy is an asshat, not because I think his army is in and of itself interesting and fun.
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I want to play Shadow War with a few local guys
so we don't have to go all the frigging way up the line every-time we want to play 40k.

I got a 3x3 mat since I lack a 4x4 table and apparently 3x3 is superior for shadow war

Only problem being is the mat I could get my hands on.

What terrain pieces should I use?
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>>55155729
Sauce on thread pic?
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>>55155767
Renegade with dual gatling
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>>55156029
So morale doesn't affect big/mek guns? I know grots count as separate units but the guns are separated too? Different anon asking this btw.
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>>55155767
Lancer by far, though the Atropos is a close second
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>>55156170
>wisjing shoddy scribble only because it has some space cowardly weakling
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>>55155829
For Barbarus!
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>>55156194
U wot m8?!
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>>55155886
Just people being fuckups. At least this one has a clear OP image.
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>>55156200
Those are glorious you done good m8.
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>>55156185
They become their own unit after deployment. Morale has no practical effect on singular models.
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How the fuck does this work?
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>>55156167
>What terrain pieces should I use?
All of them.
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>>55156207
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>>55156187

That big shield is certainly something the Lancer has going for it.
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>>55155930
Black Legion reporting for duty.
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>>55156224
Thanks for the compliment Anon, you made my day!
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>>55156040
You should be, anon.
>Not of afraid of 60 meter tall iron god-megaliths that fire blasts of nega psionic energy that destroy the soul before they destroy the body
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>>55156029
Thanks, didn't realize they each operated as their own model after deployment.
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>>55155930
Word Bearers here.
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>>55156002
Why would I be afraid of the Left handed people's club?
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>>55156047
>>Konor ends on 9/11

hory fuck
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>>55156243
we fucked gee dubs one computer like the silly little slut it is with out massive battle reports and points reporting
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>>55156233
That's good, I had the mental image of terrified grots dragging artillery away from the battle.
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>>55156167
I bought all of bandua's infinity terrain. It works well enough but I feel like I need more walkways to connect rooftops.
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>>55155729
>forgets to link old thread
>forgets to post link to new thread in old thread
>forgets the title 40kg
FUCKING STUPID
Get a fucking grip, OP.
Dont make a new thread if you don't know how to.
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>>55155759
I don't know what's more hilarious - if they did this on purpose or if they just didn't even think about this.
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>>55156135
>so only American's still give a shit or even think twice about the date.

Well yeah, it was kind of a big fucking deal for us.

GW also has a large number of American employees now, and their primary customer base is - by volume - American.
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>>55155793
>30k player
That makes two of us. Personally I feel that they should seem fairly similar mechanically speaking. Plauge marines feel a bit like vet squads, you will end up getting Death Shroud and Grave Warden rules in your codex. With some ForgeWorld, I bet you could probably reuse most of your legion anyways.

As a LW/SoH player, I myself am still wondering how to make a black legion list and what to include in it. Really pissed that basic chaos marines can't take a bolter and chainsword for some stupid (GW) reason. Anyone got advice?
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Comrades, does anybobdy have link for Agent of the Throne: Blood and Lies? Pretty please?
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>>55156482
>implying anyone but muh patriotism mouthbreathers give a fuck anymore
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>>55156456
Thread's been pretty much cancer-free so far so I'd say he did a great job.
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>>55156498
the only thing you're getting is 10 years in the iso cubes perp
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>>55156535
That is true.
I also made a mistake, just noticed he did post a link in the dead thread.
Maybe the shitposters are gone because they can't find the 40kg anywhere....
Now they're out there somewhere, looking for us...waiting for the opportunity to lash out and strike.
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>>55156504
While it's not a "big deal" anymore for the overwhelming majority of us, there are quite a few Americans who would get pretty offended by foreigners making fun of one of the most devastating terrorist attacks in US history that many people today actually lived through.
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>>55156097
You don't have to be so buttmad. They come with every infantry box, just make some now.
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>>55156135
>>55156504
>People laughing at a 9/11
>Getting flustered about people laughing about a tragedy, saying that because they're laughing at it, they still give a shit about it and need to get over it.
Can you explain the thought processes behind these posts?
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>>55155729
New Arbites when?
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>>55156504
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>>55156563
In this wake, I'll open a thread on pol on 9/11, reading "muh 3000 gorillion" and sporting FUCK YEAH SEAKING.
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>>55156613
Eventually with new Necromunda. Where they belong.
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>>55156635
Please, heretic.
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>>55156504

You can fuck right off you worthless commie bastard.
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>>55156550
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>>55156200
If I started DG, it would basically be just to use bloat drones. They're adorable.
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>>55156658
>Please, heretic.
You're acting like that's a bad thing.

With NuNecromunda, you'll almost guarantee get new models. Once you get new models it will be an easy cash grab for GW to add a dataslate for them in the Agents codex.

Meaning, you'll probably have a better chance getting a model update before certain EXISTING 40K armies. Like say... Sisters of Battle
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>>55156668
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>>55156661
>>55156579
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>>55155729
>Konor Campaign, dead even, hours to go.
What, it's looking like a good 60%+ Imperium controlled.
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>>55156678
Played Space Marine for the first time this weekend and have the same opinion about Plague Drones now. Little tails are adorable
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>>55156695
Actually, I am quite happy. Looking forward to Arbites/GSC/Alpha Legion/black ops Inquisition Stormiess foursomes.

>>55156698
Pic related
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>>55156706
I mean even if you trust what GW is putting out, those regions are way fucked up
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>>55156742
>VA-11 HALL-A gif in a 40k thread
Mein negger.
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>>55155759
>Implying anyone cares about what happened in some third world country almost 20 years ago
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>>55155759
Promethium can't melt plaststeel beams!
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>>55156958
wew, and i thought the American education system was bad

I don't have any images of henry kissinger so have a kissu instead
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>>55156456
All of that was intentional
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>>55156958

What on earth is you're problem man? Are you really so insecure that you feel the need to insult Americans at every opportunity? Do you think it is appropriate to make light of other peoples pain and suffering?
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So, how does everyone feel about templates coming back in Necromunda? Along with maybe shit like the Cool stat.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/a-closer-look-at-necromundagw-homepage-post-2/
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>>55157081
Here is everything you get in the box.
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>>55155850
>I love that this Daemon Primarch of Nurgle has done the most Slaaneshi thing I've seen.

Slaanesh and Nurgle are friends. See Super Gonorrhoea
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>>55157110
>Bringing back templates
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>>55157075
I will stop if you stone Soros to death
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So since templates aren't a thing anymore, i decided to just put all my dudes in a blob and move towards the opponent guns blazing. Got lieuts, apocs, banner and a cm in the middle to buff everyone.

Sorry about phoneposting a bad image.
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>>55157110
How much do you guys expect Necromunda to cost? It has roughly the same amount of supplies (modular board, cards, rulebook, etc.) that Deathwatch Overkill had, but far fewer miniatures. Doesn't even have Shadow War Armageddon terrain to inflate the price.
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>>55157183
Good bait!
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Getting back into Warhammer, got a couple questions.

One of my opponent's claimed that there has been an FAQ about who goes first that makes it a roll-off instead of just who finishes deployment first, but I can't find that in the core rules FAQ. Was he lying or am I just blind?

Can snipers that inflict a mortal would on a To Wind roll of a 6 (like SM Scout Snipers) kill more than one model per shot?

Do CSM get access to Heavy Quad Mortars? I can't find them in the CSM IA index, and I want to know for sure before I argue with the guy.
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>>55157183
Yeah, it's a sound strategy. And did you just buy various lots of Space Marines and that's what you ended up with? Because otherwise I can't imagine why you have ONE yellow guy.
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>>55156866
We will bury you in little manlets!
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>>55157212
>Can snipers that inflict a mortal would on a To Wind roll of a 6 (like SM Scout Snipers) kill more than one model per shot?
Yes, but it'll normally be wasted since you're targeting a character instead of a unit. If you hit a unit with it, imagine your shot going through one guy's head, and into the next guy.
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>>55157212
The snipers do a mortal wound on top of normal damage, so I can't see why if they kill one guy with normal damage the mortal wouldn't spill over to the next model in the unit.
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>>55157212
1) rule of thumb is "prove it" If they can't show you the source, its bullshit.
In this specific instance, its not an FAQ, but a preview of a rule that will be put in place in the new matched play missions in the upcoming Chapter Approved. I know that thats been enough for my playgroup to want to change the existing missions, but your experience may varry.

2) yes, as discussed

3) if its not in the CSM IA index, then no, they dont.
You may want to check the Guard index for the renegades list, which (likely) have access to them, but then you'll be allying on the CHAOS keyword and will lose your codex benefits (unless you put them in a separate detachment)
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>>55157213
I've had some of those date back about 15 years, then the termies and 20 of the tacticals from the marines vs orks set some years back, then they just sort of added up over time with me never being able to settle on a chapter and color scheme before Duncan made a guide for Blood Ravens. Got the grey dudes, another grey dude, 2 blue dudes, the orange dude, the pink dude which is the one lighting up in the front, the white dude, the ogryn+tallarn flesh dudes, the clotted THICC blood red sprayed dudes, the abandoned Blood Raven project dudes, the restarted Blood Raven project dudes and the unpainted dudes.

Just picked up 5 more of the old metal sternguards because the models are rad. I'm just happy that dude blobs are more viable now since I've had almost about 50 tacticals for almost 10 years now. The annoying part is that I had just picked up, rhinos, drop pods, and razorbacks for them when 8th hit and suddenly made them super expensive and made footslogging seem more viable.
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>>55156706
>hours to go
You haven't been paying attention, have you? Shit ends Monday after next, hence all the 9/11 garbage shitting up the thread.
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>>55157075

You really shouldn't let faggots like him get to you, man. People hate America. Just like they hated the British before that, and the French before that, and the Spanish before that, and on and on and on. Unless your country is politically insignificant, people will have a motive to hate you and they will do it.

If you like your country, you should like it regardless of what other people think about it. Their opinions don't matter, only yours does. Just ask him how much his country gave up to keep Communism from rolling tanks into western Europe.
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Pestigors confirmed in AoS.

However unlike Tzaangors, I doubt Nurgle 40k will get Pestigors, as they already have Poxwalkers.
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>quicksilver swiftness
>only useful for the 2nd round of on going combats

may it's just me but this really doesn't help. am i just doing it wrong or should i be multi charging my daemonettes more?
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>>55157428
or if your opponent charges you with more than one unit in a turn
or if your opponent charges you and you have ongoing combats.
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>>55157387
>>55157075
I'm American, and I think everyone on both sides needs to take all this shit back to /pol/.

I'm not here to relive my harrowing escape from the towers or to remember the smell of the fires from the mosque I burned down afterwards, no. I'm here to bury all that pain in grey plastic men because it's cheaper* than real therapy.
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>>55157469
I don't know, I still think drugs would be cheaper than 40k, unless you're doing chinacast. The rest of your post is good, though.
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>>55157387
Can confirm, nobody hates my country because it's insignificant.
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>>55157406
Probably not, but could be a useful proxy for anyone that doesn't like the poxwalker models. Or money, given how many box sets contain poxwalkers.
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>>55157469
>I'm American, and I think everyone on both sides needs to take all this shit back to /pol/.
It honestly might just be one troll talking to himself, trying to start some shit. We're on 4chan afterall, I assume most of us can take a 9/11 joke, even if a few posters here were infants when it happened.

Nice House Escher gif.
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>>55157469
outrageous
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/fate-of-konor-update-chaos-win-on-drenthal/
lol
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>Americans ass blasted at the mere mention of 9/11

Ironic considering how many countries you've ruined.
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>>55157406
I have no idea of AoS lore, clan Pestilens is Nurgle now?
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>>55157576
The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.
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>>55155759
I fucking love Chaos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JATb7e8zgyo
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>>55155767
Castigator, because aesthetics
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>>55157576
This. The topic is also a nice change of pace from the usual marine cuck, chaoc cuck and NPC shit flinging.
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>want more infantry
>no more room in case for them
I have way too much infantry.
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>>55155767
Those legs look goofy as fuck, so i guess none.
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>Chaos players still can't beat my all dreadnaught list.
Get it together edgelords.
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>>55157598
Yes, the horned rat is a puppet of nurgle
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>>55157604
Can't wait for americucks to crumble eventually
The ensuing chaos is a laddah after all.
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>>55157649
What's the list fampie.
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>>55157669
Dreadnaughts. Dummy.
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Asking for people that have built both Sisters of Silence and Daemonettes--how much of a pain in the dick would it be to kit bash their legs and torsos to make Slaangors? From GWs online sprue pics it doesn't seem super friendly,but I'm curious what you think of the idea.
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>>55157680
What type and how many you dunderhead!
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so I'm running a list of mostly dreadnoughts, with a knight and it's been doing way better than expected. I'm probably 10/2 so far and I'm a bit worried that I'm being that guy.
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>>55157604
You seemed pretty concerned after 9/11.
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>>55156563
>terrorist attacks

you mean CIA false flag right

if you seriously believe 9/11 was anything but an inside job you're deranged

>>55157081
two towers weren't enough
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>Nobz come with 25mm bases instead of 32mm
What retarded shit is this
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>>55157649
Soul grinders will knock that bitch straight the fuck out bruh.
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>>55155767
Knight Gallant.

I will smash everything to death, pick up the remaining scrap and then bash the rest to death with the corpse of their allies.

Also who doesn't want to watch a knight grab a Wraithknight, pin it in place and plunge a 20 ft chainsword through the vitals.
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>>55157703
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>>55157649
>my all dreadnaught list.
>>55157772
>those Techmarines and Predators.
>in an "all Dreadnought" list

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>55157189
$120
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>>55157755
Just put them on 32s
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>>55157189
Tho they'll all be probably heavy convertible. With lots of bits.
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>>55157819
I will but I need to buy some because I aint got no spares
how anyone ever thought it was a good idea to package them with 25s is beyond me
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>>55157837
Bahahahahaahahahaha
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>>55156994
I fucking love el ray.
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>>55157772
how are contemptor dreadnoughts these days? it's tempting to pick up one from ebay and put fur on it
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>>55157858
>old kit from 1856 comes with century old standard parts
>why would anyone use this old stuff

25mm are the best, all their bloody terrain was made thinking 25mm was the norm for everyone even bloody terminators.
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>>55157837
I'm expecting easy-to-build colored plastic.
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>>55157858
It's retarded, I agree. They can barely fit onto 25mms while space marines did fit quite nicely. They're probably doing a decently big ork launch with the new codex though, so they'll probably get an update
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>>55157888
the temple's practically a khornate cult at his point
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What is the purpose of coloured plastic?

Its not primed, so you can't just paint over it and have it be a base colour or whatever.

It may as well be grey, what's the point?
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>>55157911
>implying anyone is getting new stuff in Age of Ultramarines
Please the boat sail long ago. We can only hope a retro release for the rest of the armies now.
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>>55157871
>>55157903

>We’re very pleased to say that both these gangs will be full, multi-part kits, with an enormous level of customisation.

>Each kit is absolutely packed with options. There are weapons for any situation,

>As well as these, you’ll be able to arm your gangers with grenades, gas masks, additional armour and even modular hairstyles. Whichever gang you build, each member will be a character in their own right

Maybe I'm just being optimistic.
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>>55157930
I guess it helps new players not get confused about who has which models in a battle? I dunno though.
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>>55157930
Considerable number of people plays with unpainted miniatures. When the plastic is already colored, they are more distinguishable.
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>>55155759
Konor doesnt end in November, silly.
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>>55157935
After the shit they release with Primaris and their character products. I'm expecting utter shit.
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>>55157930
ultrasmurfs are blue plastic
nurgle are green plastic
if you and your opponent are lazy and/or a casual, you can just use the colored plastic but still have the color difference
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>>55157406
They were also mentioned in the 40k Core Rulebook, in one of the War Zone pages.
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>>55157935
Hopefully they have enough spare hair bits for me to add a little punk style to my orks after I finish my gang.
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>Death Guard feature heavily in Konor campaign
>their codex will be released AFTER it concluded
NEVER FORGET
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>>55158027
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I hope the Escher are available separately. I kinda want to make a Guard army entirely using them.
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>>55158027
They were too busy planning to sell 3 swap-designed Plague Marines for 40$
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>>55158027
>"Oh look! The deathguard lost Konor. Don't forget to buy their new models that are going to be released soon so you too can suck as much dick as they did during this campaign!"

Or GW will just fudge the numbers I swear the guy who thought this release schedule was a good idea should be fucking fired.
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>>55156085
>tfw restarted this hobby in january and some how bought 3kpts worth of tau and 3kpts worth of space marines
>almost none of this shit is assembled or painted
I fucking hate my lack of focus and my lack of time to get shit done
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>>55157772
I think I'd be pretty unprepared for that kind of list with my usual unmodified list, basically all my anti-infantry weapons are useless. Warptime the scourge hellbrute in to go bananas on one dreadnought while the raptors drop down and give a predator a double dose of melta with endless cacophony?

-Terminator Lord 146
Combi melta, chain fist
-Terminator Sorcerer 175
Combi melta, force axe
Intoxicating elixir

-11 cultists (autoguns) 44
heavy stubber
-5 marines 65
-5 marines 67
Combi-bolter

-5 terminators 226
Combi melta, axe, reaper cannon, 2 mauls, 2 fists
-5 possessed 110

-5 raptors 131
Two melta, plasma pistol, power axe
---------- vanguard
-Sorcerer 109
plasma pistol, force sword

-5 noise marines 111
4 sonic blasters, blast master
-hellbrute 162
Twin lascannons, fist
-hellbrute 155
Power scourge, fist

1500/1500 renegade legion tactics
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>>55158108
Since the Primaris revealing it has been nothing but disappointment
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>>55158087
They should, or at least you'll be able to get the bits on ebay a few days after the box comes out.
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>>55158108
Idk why they didn't release Codex: Space Marines and Codex: Death Guard at the beginning of the event, with the release of all new models. I think it only would've boosted sales more.
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>>55155919
The admech bitch slapped a necron force so hard I felt sorry for the guy. Turn one he loses 2 Lords to rangers and their night scythe to dune crawlers along with countless immortals next turn they lost their second night scythe killing all the warriors he had setup in the tomb world. He forfiet the Match after that.
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>>55158027
>>55158038
>>55158105
>>55158108

>We need a new global summer campaign, Gentlemen. How about the forces of the Plague Lord Mortarion reigning death down upon a system in Ultramar, Death Guard will be the poster boys, all eyes on them
That sounds great, so we'll coincide the launch of the Death Guard for the beginning of the campaign so people will snap up the units and use them in the campaign, we'll feature the pictures people send in of their brand new Death Guard and it'll be amazing!
>Release the Death Guard at the beginning of the campaign? Hmmm we could do that... or even better... how about the opposite?
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>>55158201
GW works like picture related
Bunch of different departments vaguely aware of what they should be doing and trying to cobble together a finished product the night before the deadline.
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>>55158153
I am disappointed since Fall of Cadia :(.
Gathering Storm was a mistake.
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>>55158250
6th onwards has been a mistake.
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>>55158105
This made me so fucking mad. The models being AutoCAD-designed is so fucking blatant these days. At least before the difference was subtle because they tried to make them look handsculpted.
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>>55158201
>>55158239
competing sales, no reason to lose sales to yourself when you could spread them out
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>>55158239
>the guy who's perfect woman is a dominatrix
>the guy who's perfect woman is a fucking knight in armour
What fucking weirdo group of friends is this?
mine?
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>>55158264
5th and Ward-Cruddance fluff, 6th wasn't that bad.
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>>55158250
>someone saved my Ahriman image
:3
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>>55158233
>releasing the main characters codex after some NPCs
Silly suggestion, glad they went with plan B. I bet you anything morty will appear in the "lore" of konor only to get wrecked by girly.
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>>55158301
Well anything past 4th is shit. But I was being rather generous by saying 6th.
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>>55158250
>cadia is lost to chaos
>armeggedon is mostly lost to Orks and chaos
>catachan is lost to shitty plastic models
Guard needs a win in something other than new rules
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>>55158199
I hope so. I thought about doing it with the old metal minis, but having plastic multi-part figs will make it so much easier to convert everything I need.
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>>55158301
Fools, 3rd was the true golden age
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>>55158335
This look rather T H I C C
AutoCAD can't make muscular women so they make fat ones?
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>>55158250
>"Brother Ahzek?"
This fucking kills
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Painting before or after assembling?
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>>55158333
>something other than new rules
Using upcoming plastic Necromunda models for your Chemdog army.
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>>55158369
That does not look like fat thicc to me
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>>55158406
Nor does it look like muscular thicc
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>>55158369
Well poor people are statically more overweight in developed countries
Also they are pretty fucking /fit/, it's just always bulk season on necromunda
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>>55158335
Do they actually look worse than the old metalics or is it just crappy paintjob? Also
>no Heavy Plasma
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>>55158305
I would totaly fuck your yvraine bro
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>>55158335
>even more GW manface
Fuck. I just want sexy plastic women to hotglue and then PRO PAINT
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>>55158391
Doesn't necromunda have a regement? What's it called?
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>>55158335
doesn't look like real 80s hair
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>>55158423
The paintjob and terrible photoshop might be the reason why they look like a fat blob.
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>>55158423
>it's just always bulk season on necromunda
Goliath, pls.
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>>55158437
Sorry your plastic dudettes faces are too realistic
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>>55158430
I'm hoping the one on the right is the heavy plasma. That slab looks like a battery with a cable running on the bottom.
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>>55158113
Drink coffee, disregard women
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>>55158369
They're built like football players. Thick and musclebound without looking unnatural.
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>>55158494
>disregard women
Can confirm. Getting married was the worst thing that happened to my painting productivity.
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>>55158430
It's the paintjobs. The old Necromunda figs can look really good, but these look better. That and being multipart plastic is a hell of a bonus.
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>>55157241
Is this only an audiodrama? Also top cutie.
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>>55157716
>>let me make a list of nothing but one kind of unit and a lord of war that requires certain kinds of weapons to fight
>>Am I that guy?
I love dreadnoughts too, but I sure hope you warn your opponents first, desu.
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>>55158476
>I'm hoping the one on the right is the heavy plasma.
I'm hoping it's not.
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>>55158202
>bottom tier army must wait till everyone else gets a codex
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What is the most broken Forgeworld model this edition?
I vote this, 475 points for this. Macro is 2x damage against Titanic. So up to 108 wounds in one phase.
I was also thinking Leviathan Dreads
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>>55158451
It's that weird purple hue they used for shading, I'm thinking a light brown would look pretty good on them, maybe have an army of Brooklyn echers
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>>55158369
I like them. They do look more like female weightlifters rather than fitness models. I can actually see them fucking someone up in an alleyway or dispatching an Ork on the battlefield. Plus I'm a sucker for girl abs.
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>>55158335
once again GW proves they are terrible at making female models
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>>55158588
Yep, they look like your average woman after they've done heavy physical work, these bitches dont fuck around.
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>>55158605
If you want super models, just make your Escher gang out of Infinity minis.
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>>55158572
>Bottom tier
More like npc tier.
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>>55158577

It looks nasty but it also looks like something that gets eaten alive if you take it on with infantry/light vehicles. It puts out less anti-infantry fire than a pair of heavy flamers.
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>>55158329

It's gonna be a "tie" and week 7 will magically appear to be the tiebreaker, with new codex and Morty
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>>55158335
1980s A e s t h e t i c
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>>55158676
That would be the most obviously contrived bullshit, and I would love it.
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>>55158335
so, from what i can guess from the picture, a complete set of sprues is 5 torsoleg combo pieces, a buncha heads, arms, hair, and bits. and then whenever the gang is sold on it's own it's either a fiveperson or ten person box, like the primaris kits
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Post dank conversions.
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>>55158335
Pretty disappointed. Over-designed and manish. The hair is goofy and looks more like parrots than the punk 80s vibe.
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>>55158335
>>55158369
they're rugby players
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>>55158605
They look like rugged gangers that make their living off beating the shit out of people and shooting anyone who talks back
Sorry they aren't Victoria's Secret models, there's a million 3rd party sites that make pinup tier girl models you can choose from
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>>55158706
I tried to make a plastic Brotherhood Champion.
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>>55158717
The one on the left is your average Sister of Battle.
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>>55158417
im not sure you know what muscular thick women look like anon.
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>>55158430
>each kit is absolutely packed with options. There are weapons for any situation, from classics like the stub gun to more esoteric choices like the repurposed industrial equipment of House Goliath or the chem-weapons of the Eschers.

It sounds like the Escher speciality is being changed from plasma to "chem weapons".
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>>55158731
plz give links to prove your not full of shit
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>>55158742
>>55158742
>>55158742
that is clearly brother Marylyn of the Excoricators 5th company
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>>55158734

Looks about right, though how do you tell him apart from other grey knights in a crowd though?
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>>55158335
I do like the haircuts and guns, I do not like studded leather thigh high, high heel boots on every single model, I'd have preferred some to be more plain so the leader would be more distinct. I also do not like that hideous, excessively large whip.

It does look like they're adding in new weapons and shit, which is near.
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>>55158734

Get back to work, Greg.
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>>55158792
That was before I gave him some gubbins.
Here's a more recent pic with some purity seals. I'll try to look through my bitz box for more gubbins, though.
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>>55158273
>>55158239
>>55158233
B-but muh Rountree, G-GW is changed
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>>55158769
A link to what? The background of House Escher or pictures of real girls that would fuck your shit up?
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>>55158335
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAACE
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>>55158706
too many to choose from, ill just post the most recent ones, although they might be considered more as scratch builds
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>>55158824
Nothing. She's just not pretty.
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>>55158840
>she's just not pretty
>nothing
?
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>>55158824
She lived in a fucking hive world her whole life?
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>>55158821
>there's a million 3rd party sites that make pinup tier girl models you can choose from
>cant provide even one source
I guess you are full of shit then
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Alright anons, i need budget LoW to fit in this list. Any ideas?

Tzeentch Daemons, 2000pts, 9CP

Battalion Detachment - 268pts, 3CP
>The Changeling - 100pts
>Herald of Tzeentch - 78pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts

Battalion Detachment - 246pts, 3CP
>Herald of Tzeentch - 78pts
>Herald of Tzeentch - 78pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts
>10x Brimstone Horrors - 30pts

Super Heavy Detachment - 1115pts, 3CP
>Magnus the Red - 415pts
>Aetaos'rau'keres - 700pts
>??? - up to 371pts

Alternative is trying to run two Supreme Command Detachments and single Battalion with bunch of Horrors instead, but that's kinda eh.
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>>55158824
You think if I could be a model/prostitute I'd be beating people for protection money and fighting in street fights?
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>tfw friend likes everything but spess mehrines
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>>55158734
looks good but needs more purity seals
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>>55158792
Dat Iron Halo and bling sword.
>>55158817
What's his legs from?
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>>55158883
Something Khornate

The sheer volume of nearby sorcery will make sure it is as angry as possible, increasing its combat effectiveness
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>>55158840
>>55158877
>>55158888
>GW manface apologists
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>>55158881
But he's right, you just want to be spoonfed. A little greenstuff on some Infinity minis and you have the Escher gang you're imagining in your mind.

Just ask if you seriously want to get proxies but don't know where to find them. You're anon, you got nothing to prove.
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>>55158889
tfw friend is a whiny piece of shit so he likes everything except the stuff I do, fuck you david you piece of shit
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>>55158883
gee anon, how hard do you wanna rape your locals?

>>55158909
might be the paint job on the face, same thing happened to guilliman. soften the lines on the face and you get something more feminine
>>
I just bought into 40k with the crimson slaughter half of dark vengeance, the supplement to that, a box of raptors, a box of khorne berzerkers and kharn. I'm not really sure what I have, and could use a bit of guidance of where to go from here.
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>>55158889
Oh, good, he has taste.
>>
You know what I'm just gonna grab a Baal predator, not glue the sponsons on and give it some I symbols, that should do fine as a deathwatch razorback.
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>>55156344
>Left handed people
>God Emperor of Mankind
>people
I'm sorry, can't hear you over the unstoppable might of the Lord and his inexhaustible armies led by one of his demi god sons reborn.
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>>55158898
Space Marine Vanguard Veteran Squad. GK don't have very "action packed" leg options. I wanted him to be in more of a "I'ma get you, bitch." pose rather than the standard pose that looks like they stopped for a moment to pose for the camera.
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>>55158883
you are a horrible person. 371 points might be enough to fit in a poorly kitted GW Knight a FW Knight Castigator or Styrix
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>>55158821
I'll take the real girls that'd fuck up my shit. For a friend.
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>Everyone at my LGS said Xenos would get no love this year
>Only Chaos and Imperium
>Both CWE and Nids drop, and IG confirmed for nerfs
Man, I'm gonna enjoy those tears today.
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>>55158969
never mind the FW Knights are too expensive bro unless you drop the LoC and take 2 knights
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>>55158881
>spoonfeed me
I'm not gonna do a bunch of research for you
eBay has tons of it and ragingheroes.com also has shitloads of sexy girl models off the top of my head
Learn to use google faggot
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>>55158817
He looks like he's skipping through a meadow.
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>>55157514

>house escher gif
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>>55158881
Oh. THAT's what you're asking for. Easy. Raging Heroes has an entire line of them for example.
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>>55158979
They were probably parroting those Faeit """rumours""". Site is trash
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>>55158969
Even basic Renegade Knight is 385pts, 426 with Thermal Canon.

That being said, i'm looking into alternative HQs. I've heard that Malefic Lords are cheap as dirt.
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>>55158883
your list would have 12 CP not 9 as you get 3 just by being battleforged. Still wouldnt want to play a friendly game against that list
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>>55158706

I built my first Primaris marine today, I know he doesn't really look converted but I removed the purity seal from his shoulder ajd I think I did a pretty good job of it right?
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>>55159020
Keep up the good work, anon.
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>>55158979
Why don't you grow some balls and gloat to them instead of going on an internet board where no one cares?
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>>55159020
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>>55158202
Suffered from turn 1 shooting from admech you say?
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>>55159006
>Jonny joestar hippo
Fuck off sluts thats what I'm after
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>>55159020
>>55159034

Shit that isn't the right picture.
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>>55158250
>people didn't immediately recognize this as a carbon copy of Warhammer Fantasy End Times
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>>55159056
At the very least, he'd be an amazing objective marker.
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>>55159008
Yeah, they were.

>>55159036
Where do you think I'm going to go to get that delicious lacrimal vindication from tonight?
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>>55159071
That was the very first thing people said. And they were wrong.
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>>55158108
Death Guard won Konor*

I'm Imperium, but it's pretty clear Chaos is going to win at this point.
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EC slut from a few days ago reporting back in.

I am pretty sure I want to do my own loyalist chapter successor to the EC, or some alternate reality loyalist EC themselves for 40k.

I have some questions about custom chapters though.
Say I want to use the UM chapter tactics.
Can I "use" the UM characters, just painted or greenstuffed differently? Keeping the same base sizes of course. The extreme example would be (assume I am talented) roboute guilliman sculpted and painted to fulgrim, and I even call him fulgrim but use rowboat's stats.

What are common annoying tropes to avoid? I don't want a mary sue chapter I just want to get across the "They pursued perfection too far and fell from grace, and are trying to repent" theme.
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>>55159013
I don't think i can be Battleforged as Tzeentch Daemons lack third LoW.

I could go with single Battalion and two Supreme Command Detachments to give me a LoW slot each. Magnus and Aetaos, sixty brims, Changeling and six Heralds. Actually, i could run a LoC instead of one of Heralds and just have enough points to fit them all in. Spend leftover points to give Heralds rods.
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>>55158979
>and IG confirmed for nerfs
what do you mean? where is this sourced?
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fuck off with this shitty op image, do you want to turn into /pfg/
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>>55158979

I seriously hope they bring platoons back and make conscripts 1 per again, I want so badly for all the bandwagon WAAC fags to bet btfo

Here's to us being mid tier again where we belong
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>>55159056
Each of their factions has a pet.
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>>55159118
I'm ready for all the bitching from the "40k isn't balanced" folks to turn into "how dare they change the rules after I bought all these models."
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>>55159110
>Can I "use" the UM characters, just painted or greenstuffed differently?
Probably, ask your gaming group not us though.
>What are common annoying tropes to avoid?
some alternate reality loyalist EC lead by fulgrim himself
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Just read Soul Hunter.

Great read IMO. I liked how it wasn't a grand story of a great triumph or even, it was quite small scale and personal.
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>>55159096
>carbon copy of end of times
>wrong
Beside the setting squatting it is the same.
Oh wait they did squat the setting since it is no longer at the end of the forty first millennium
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Okay I think I got it to work, new phone sorry.

My first conversation!
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>>55159071
Well GS wasn't that much simular to ET, but 8 ed is AoS in space
World is destroyed by chaos/Imperium is fucked by chaos
Sigmar/Guillman
made Stormcast/take Primaris from his fridge
new army is starting to drive chaos off
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>>55159110
>What are common annoying tropes to avoid?
Loyalist traitor legion descendants.
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>>55158577
The broken ones are the big things that most people just ignore like the Eldar Scorpion or SM Relic Falchion, for the majority of stuff under 500 points only a few are even good much less op.
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>>55159110
Generally yes as long as you make clear you're using the actual Ultramarines rules and not running with your chapter's keyword as a successor. That gets a little odd with Guilliman though. You can't really "counts as" a Primarch and have it make any narrative sense.
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>>55159112
Not an explicit nerf statement in and of itself, but that IG is getting a codex which is where they'll be fixing the current issues with them. They've been talking about it for a while now with all the people asking them questions. I'd wager it's going to end up being with Commissars not working well with Conscripts anymore and/or points increases to make Guard somewhat less blobby and efficient.
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>>55159177
I literally cannot see it
there is new phone and there is sideways out of focus pic on top of a sprue and something else
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>>55159173
>Oh wait they did squat the setting since it is no longer at the end of the forty first millennium
>he hasn't read dark imperium
kek
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>>55159241

Something like "Undisciplined rabble: This unit doesn't get the normal benefit from a Commisar but instead raises it's leadership by 1 if within x inches of a Commisar."
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>>55159263
Probably, yeah.
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>>55159263
Don't forget about orders as well.
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>>55155791
Orks

Always good for a laugh, dem greenies.
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>>55159177
removing a purity seal isnt really what you call a conversion bro. turning Centurions into mutilators or AoS Bloodbound into 40k 'Zerkers is a conversion
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>>55159243

I removed the purity seal.

It's on a sprue so I don't drop it down the bowl.
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>>55159241
So no source, as suspected
Hopefully conscripts are nerfed by rolling them back into platoons
Real guardfags would be okay with this
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>>55159173
Completely destroying the setting and discarding all prior fluff, squatting two whole factions, fundamentally altering/breaking up/reordering almost all the others. Brand new faction that is suddenly almost all of the new releases for years.

No, it's really not.
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>>55155729
Why are you bitches not more excited about the Vehicle Design Rules: Landraider Beta?
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>>55158922
Kharn is <world eaters> only.

You could run all your models as world eaters or you could run Kharn and the berserkers as a separate parole detachment (world eater berserkers are troops) and use the other models as a different legion/renegade chapter (crimson slaughter).
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>>55158922
Pls
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What if they made it so you could only have 1 commissar per detachment.

Might fix the morale issues with Guard no?
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>>55157406
Pestigors have always been a thing, though. This is just reconfirming that they exist.
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fuck I hate cleaning models
scraping off mould lines and all that shit, fuck it. Takes me eons to assemble a simple box of guys because of flash and mouldlines
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>>55159283

Did... Did you photograph your Intercessor over a toilet?
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>>55159297
I'll likely just paint them all as world eaters, I'm more wondering if I have anything close to decent or what my next pickups should be
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>>55159284
I don't know what more you want me to say. They rolled out all the bugaboos the system had this year barring Necrons. Skittles are getting their desperately needed buff like CSM did, and they'll be knocking down IG. Don't have to take my word for it, but that's pretty much a foregone conclusion.
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>>55158922
nothing stops you from running the CS as World Eaters they are the appropiate colour too
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>>55159263
A ld 5 squad that supposed to lose men by the dozen is entirely useless. Have the commissar blam d3 of them to ram the message home and remove the <regiment> keyword from them so they can't be ordered.

But for all /tg/ bitches about them they haven't actually been dominating the competative scene at all.
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>>55159271
Okay, that's honestly the worst part of it all.
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>>55159251
>>55159192
>>55159096
>series of fluff books at extreme end of timeline of old edition
>advance plot past 2 minutes to midnight cutoff
>large character kits released in tandem, including reviving old characters from well established fluff
>mini series re-release at new scale, which had built up for a few releases

Gee I wonder.
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>>55159299
You might want a rhino for those berzerkers unless you can think of a better way of getting them into close combat. Making them part of an alpha legion detachment would work, but then you couldn't use Kharn in the same detachment.

Likely the best thing to do is make a world eaters detachment with kharn and zerkers as troops like >>55159297 said and get them a couple of rhinos to get across the board relatively unmolested. Raptors can be for dropping in to melta something.
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>>55155930
Death to the False Emperor
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>>55159320

Well it's the brightest lightbulb in my flat.
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>>55159337
>A ld 5 squad that supposed to lose men by the dozen is entirely useless.
Isn't that was conscripts are supposed to be?
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>>55159361
so who is the true emperor then
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>more conscript spam whining
God damn can we not go a single thread without bitching about this? You can't all be in conscript dominated metas, you guys literally just say the same thing over and over all day
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>>55159295
I wonder what weaponry options the csm land raider will have?

>no assault cannons
>but you get the havoc launcher ;^)
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>>55159349
>>advance plot past 2 minutes to midnight cutoff
wrong, read dark imperium.
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>>55159387
Me
[/spoiler]Alpharius[/spoiler]
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>>55159337

Their only job is to be a cheap block of S3 spam. Doesn't really matter if they die fast.
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>>55159349
None of that is "carbon copy". Furthermore, that's all really general stuff. I mean... "large character kits"? Really? That's your argument why they're exactly the same?
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>>55159401
sheit son u dun gud
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>>55159295

Because it's only really exciting if they green light giving every army a build a bear unit?
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>>55159357
Yeah I have a rhino from the supplement box that I'll definitely use
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>>55159387
ADB
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>>55159349
The two terrible things that WHFB End Times did were squatting full armies and completely erasing/ending the lore of the armies that were left. Gathering storm had weird things happened that made important changes to the galaxy, but it's still the same galaxy and is populated by the same people that fans care about.
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>>55159337
BAO top lists were full of Conscripts. Including the winner. So far major tournaments have been won by conscripts or gimmicks.
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>>55159434
that is NOT a Rhino in the supplement box.
That thing is too big to be called a Rhino. Too big, too thick, too heavy and too rough. It is more like a large hunk of Iron
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>>55159434
Then you're probably in a good place. I don't know what comes in the supplement box, but you'll probably need some ranged anti-armor since the zerkers and kharn can mop up just about any infantry if they get the charge. So that's either las havocs, slaanesh obliterators or a las predator.
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Is 4 heavy bolters and a stalker bolter good?
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>>55159161
Okay I figured as much.

What would be something less stupid? It was proposed that some fabius bile gene-fucking would be a decent idea. I admit I know little about him.

>>55159200
Ah well that sucks for me I guess

>>55159234
Yeah I was intentionally using the most extreme example I could
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>>55159495
No
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>>55159444
http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2017/08/01/bay-area-open-2017-top-lists-pics/
Looked it up, 2 of the top 5 had conscripts, one of which was 2 minimum squads. That isn't dominating.
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Got a new thread on the way in just a little bit after my break, gimme a /comfy/ picture to use as the op image
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>>55159458
You're inspiring me to make a Band of the Hawk army.
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>>55159518
By his logic SoB should be dominating
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>>55159518
Won't stop this retard from screeching
every time someone downplays conscripts, this shitheel shows up in their defense
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>>55159530
are they an Iron-Hands Successor?
>>
When I looked at the campaign website 5 minutes before the timer ran out last night, the Imperium was still slightly ahead. Hmm...
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>>55159489
I might go for the predator. Also I am mistaken, its a landraider in the box
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>>55159529
comfy foam
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>>55159568
We all saw this.
Then later GW change it.
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>>55159518
>1st place had 120 conscripts
>2nd place had 103 conscripts
That might not be "spam" per se, but it's still a clearly dominant unit.
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>>55159529
Praise be the Om-Meow-Ssiah
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>>55159518
Uhh the first list is using 120, the second is using 83, and the third is using "only" 40. 4th and 5th place aren't guard.
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>>55159324
Looks decent.
Chaos lord, exalted champion and kharn for HQs.
Two cultist blobs and berserkers fill out your battalion detachment.
Helbrute and chosen for your elites.
Raptors for fast attack.

I'd get a rhino or two to cart around the chosen, berserkers and kharn. A csm box for more special weapons/special weapons marines.
Plasmas/meltas for the raptors and an axe, powerfist and chainsword for the berserker champion is top tier and then as many chain axes as the squad can hold.
Consider bikers with flamers, picking up combi-weapons and special weapons bits on eBay or something.
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>>55159588
>103
It was 83, I can't count.
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>>55159599
nice cat
my shitlords just try their hardest to break all my minis
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>>55159518
Good to see guard killing it after spending an edition on the sidelines
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>>55159584
Did the math. Checks out.
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>>55159518
regardless of how well they Really~ are, real balancing isnt about having everything equally powerful, but rather FUN* to play with and against. so If people Moan about conscripst being annoying to play (moving shitton of models) and to play against, they are likely to be "adjusted"
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>>55159578
Four las shots from a LR puts you in an easier position wrt anti-armor. With your core built up you can kinda just do as you like.
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>>55159529
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>>55159584
Well go look at it today on the new planet. Chaos is dominating the US and EU, has a slight lead in the UK, but the overall planet is almost 90% Imperium controlled.
>>
>Conscript spam guard topping lists
>i-it doesn't count, no we arent w-waac
fucking guard players
>>
Is five Ravagers too many Ravagers?
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>>55156344
Don't worry anon, I got your joke
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>>55159529
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>>55159661
Why do I get the feeling that the boobsnake does something lewd with that tongue
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>>55159667
Depends are you running Flyers?

How much Venoms do you spam
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>>55159667
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD6sTDH9Zdc
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>>55159680
I think it can do some comfy things

>>55159662
GW trying to mask their bullshit?
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>>55158922

2-3 heldrakes, super good anti flyer unit and can lock big shooty units with a turn 1 charge after flaming things to death. 3 of them grants a VP.

Another 10-20 berzerkers and a couple rhinos

A couple maulerfiends with lashertendrils

A daemon prince.

Then play world eaters.
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>>55159495
Depends.
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>>55159688
I'm on the fence about raiders vs venoms

I get the feeling I need all the help I can get vs hordes with my space pirate list, so probably 5 venoms full of Kabalites.

Though I'm taking one raider to convert as a centerpiece flagship for my Archon space pirate captain

But I'm on the fence between 5 Ravagers, or 3 Ravagers and 2 Razorwings.

I need MAXIMUM SPACE PIRATE aesthetic
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>>55159680
because you're a pervert and you're right. the better question is what can't it do with that tongue?
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>>55159708
At best the website is just fucked right now, at worst they've accidentally tipped their hand that this was all predetermined after two weeks of fudging Chaos' numbers. I guess it won't matter for another 10 days.
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>>55158922
>>55159710

Careful young one.

Do NOT take Heldrakes or Fiends, Heldrakes are only ok against other Flyers and even then not even that Impressive, Maulerfiends kinda feel in the territory where your DarkVengeance helbrute does the same job but cheaper.

Daemon Prince and Zerkers are good investment though

>>55159752

Pretty sure at 2k you can fit in 6 Venoms each filled with MSU Kabalites with your prefered Loadout of Ravagers/Razorwings.

Could Swag-up one Venom to be your Archons Pimp-Mobile

If you going full Pirate get a Raider instead of the Venom and take ravagers
>>
>>55158948
>GK don't have very "action packed" leg options.
Yup. I know that pain.
It looks good. Thought it was VGV, but didn't know if they were from a Bangel kit.
>>
Does anyone put the tilt shields on their terminators?
>>
>>55156170
soooo, anyone?
>>
>>55159846
>>55159846
Only wholesome friendly anons allowed
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>>55159812
Heldrakes are good for flying over enemy lines and killing enemy aura monkeys or tying up enemy artillery in melee.

Fiends are near worthless thanks to their 4+ BS and WS.
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>>55159808
Traditional GW. Being fucking up this kind of things since for ever.
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>>55159812
Right now my 2k list is

Archon w/ Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Agonizer (76)

Archon w/ Blaster, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Agonizer (76)

Kabalite Trueborn x7 w/ 4 Blasters, 2 Dark Lances (177)

Kabalite Warriors x5 w/ Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Blaster (53)

Kabalite Warriors x5 w/ Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Blaster (53)

Kabalite Warriors x5 w/ Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Blaster (53)

Kabalite Warriors x5 w/ Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Blaster (53)

Kabalite Warriors x5 w/ Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Blaster (53)

Ravager w/ 3 Dark Lances (155)

Ravager w/ 3 Dark Lances (155)

Ravager w/ 3 Dark Lances (155)

Razorwing Jet Fighter w/ 2 Dark Lances (170)

Razorwing Jet Fighter w/ 2 Dark Lances (170)

Venom w/ 2 Splinter Cannons (95)

Venom w/ 2 Splinter Cannons (95)

Venom w/ 2 Splinter Cannons (95)

Venom w/ 2 Splinter Cannons (95)

Venom w/ 2 Splinter Cannons (95)

Raider w/ Disintegrator Cannon, Shock Prow (126)

I only own about a third of the models so far, but the plan is to cram all the warriors into venoms, and to convert the raider halfway to a ravager, so the Dark Lance Trueborn can man turrets while riding with both Archons
>>
Is there a point value for the hellblade(blood letter weapon) in the chaos index? not the codex....
>>
Thanks for all the constructive chaos advice guys, I will take it into consideration, and also pick up a rhino or two in the future.
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>>55159200
>Loyalist traitor legion descendants.
Minotaurs(old), Red Scorpions, Blood Ravens, Minotaurs(new), Silver Skulls, and Soul Drinkers
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>>55159891
That seems to look pretty similar to what is being played in this Battle-Report here, might be worth having a look unless you netdecked that list from there to being with :^) No one will judge you for it tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZO1xD3lg8
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>>55159921
Are any of those EC descendants?

I would play chaos EC I just don't like daemons, they are gross to me
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>>55159961
Nothing forces you to play Daemons as EC, the only "good" Daemon unit EC has is the double-claw Prince.
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>>55157212
For the Quad Mortars I think they are an option for the Rapier batteries but I might be wrong.

Worst case you could take some Renegades and Heretics with the Chaos keyword.
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>>55159975
So I could make a marine heavy list as the traitor EC?

I fully admit I am pretty noobish as far as the crunch goes, I have read the indices just have zero idea what works and what doesnt
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>>55159991
They are literally a different army. Its like saying you want to play Ultramarines but without Ad-Mech. That being said they still look very Daemonic. Unless you just dislike pure daemons.
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>>55159961
Red Scorpions are implied to be EC descendants.
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>>55160045
it's the pure daemons I really dislike, I can't put my finger on why exactly.

All I know about EC chaos marines crunch wise are from 7th edition, so I guess I need to watch some battle reports of 8th
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>>55156456
>Carnac butthurt about posting in dead thread.

Like pottery.
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>>55159891

Having run a very similar list I can tell you it's very very strong but boring to play.

I ran

Flyer wing
2 razorwing and a voidraven

Battalion
3× 5 warriors
2 archons with blasters
5 venoms
2×5 scourges with dark lances.

Just out the scourges in buildings for the 3+ and watched the enemy struggle to take them out while venoms flew around pumping out poison, ravagers and flyers causing mayhem with lances and missiles.

I've tabled 3 opponents by turn 3 so far (tau, SM and DG) but now I'm looking to swap out some stuff for mandrakes and incubi and even made a full coven list to be a bit more friendly.
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>>55156958
/Pol plz
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>>55157081
>Everyone at my flgs threw out their templates and scatter dice after 8th came out
>I kept mine
My hoarding finally paid off
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>>55159991

I've wanted to make an EC list since I read the horus heresy books but the old models put me off. Anyway my 8th edition list would be;

Lucius
Sorcerer

3 squads of 10 noise marines; 8 sonic blasters, 2 blast masters

3 helbrute with helbrute fist and twin blast masters (sonic dreadnought available now due to FAQ)

Daemon Prince with wings and claws, with the intoxicating elixir relic.

I've got some points left over and deciding if I want some forgeworld flyers, whether I need rhinos for the noise marines or whether I want some havocs for anti tank.

Basically lucius and the noise marines move up and he allows them to reroll shots, sorceror supports and the prince goes in hard with warptime.
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>>55158889
What a guy.
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>>55157740
>CIA
>Not Israel/Mossad
Learn2tinfoil newfag
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>>55160470
You will have to let me know how that turns out, is lucius any good?

I like named ICs a lot
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Does white dwarf come out on the 1st of September?
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How viable is 1k deathguard paired with 1k slaanesh marines? No demons, pure csm units?
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>>55158731
>triggered by people wanting attractive female models
BEGONE THOT
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>>55160399
Mine are also kept safe.
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>>55158824
Yeah no woman could ever look like that.....
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