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How would your party defeat 150,000 screamers riding in

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How would your party defeat 150,000 screamers riding in on an open field?
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>>55126333
200,000 Screamers riding in an open field.

With bows.
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>>55126333
One at the time.
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We wouldn't. We'd be slaughtered horribly unless we can scare them off with some shitty low level wizard magic.
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We'd call our mercenary company into action and defeat them with disciplined squares and effective cannon that's how.

Fucking savages.
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>>55126333
Earthquake.
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>>55126333
We would defeat them with the power of love and friendship!
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We have a tank.
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>>55126333
Spam Create Water until we've got enough of a swamp to cover our flanks, set up some quick earthen walls to force them to dismount, activate meatgrinder mode, and hope we can heal our melee guys faster than the enemy can injure them.
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>>55126333
Pikes. Lots of fucking pikes
Have a great shield wall in front of them. The horses fall over like dominos. Peasants in the back fucking shank them while they're knocked down
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see who screams the fucking loudest
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>>55126333
We'd get in our spaceship and shoot them from low orbit.
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>>55126333
Scouts.
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>>55126333
>Damage barrier 100
>Can punch ground and generate earthquakes at will
>Can vaporize normal humans in one punch
>Moves at the speed of sound
And that's just my character, I think we'll be fine. The dragons will be more up to our level.
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Our alchemist has bombs that function like cloud kill. He also has a discovery that lets him shoot his bombs like rockets with bigger blast areas. And he can do this multiple times a round.

Multiple 40ft radius cloudkills being put ahead of the approaching horde will do some damage. Depending on the hit die of the screamers and their horses, it might even kill them all instantly. I dont think he could cover them all, but seeing that shit go down must do something to their morale.

As for myself and the rest of the party, I guess we just hang back and try to look scary.
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>>55126333
By making those Dothraki HOOOOOAAAAARS BOW BEFORE THEIR KING!
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>>55126333
agghhh...
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>>55126333

Mountain full of naked women with AIDS
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>>55126333
It occurs to me that unless they all die in the war with the Others that Westeros ethnic makeup will suddenly be much more diverse then it used to be with all those Dothraki and Ghinscari folks arriving with Dany.
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>>55127593
>Others
Who now?
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>>55126333
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH yourself!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hegUgANcTw
Uh oh.
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>>55126333
Trenches, earthworks, war wagons, scouts to know those guys are coming would be nice. Magic or not, one needs to plan and prepare. Also my PC has a mortar, a catapult and 40 ghost-possessed soldiers to man and protect them. Assuming we have our social connections, I could call imperial composite phalanxes.

I've checked the scene on youtube, those were some awful horse nomads. Although throwing dead horses on top of the enemy can be surprisingly effective. I think there was an instance of this with english cavarly in 1857.
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>>55127606
The White Walkers.
Their proper name in the book, insofar that they even have one, are "the Others" (because they were not Men or Forest Children, but Other), with the White Walkers being yet another name for them.
They are primarily called The Others in the novels, but the showrunners changed it because they unironically thought that people would confused a species of frozen ice fairies with a magical zombie army for the villains in Lost if they had the same name.
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We wouldn't, those fuckers are going to swamp us.
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>>55126333
By preparing the field beforehand and hoping for the best.

Sharpened stakes, Pikes, Laying out fields of pitch which you can ignite when they are stalled by your stakes/pike wall, Greek fire throwers & Mangonels, plus a an extremely healthy dose of luck.

It's like Sun Tsu says if you're able to choose and control the battlefield most of the time you'll win.

However, if caught offguard or unaware you're fucked.
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MY PEOPLE!
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>>55126333
Shield wall with spears.
Horses don't charge home against spears because they're not fucking retards, unless they're specially trained for it.
Given that the Dothraki never fight organised forces with spears, and that they love their horses, combined with their complete lack of armour, It's a fair bet that their horses wouldn't be trained for full frontal spear charges that would cause massive casualties to them.
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2 step process
1.) Geomancer creates a 5 foot thick lead bunk
2.) S.T.A.L.K.E.R. pulls in radiation from Chernobyl
Survive and dig away
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>>55126333
We wouldn't technically be able to defeat ALL of them, but I think six fully Gauru'd werewolves would terrify the fuck out of them. We'd mulch the first wave, and after that it'd be a matter of how many of these dudes are willing to be next in line.

Realistically, they'd overwhelm us eventually, but how many warriors, even ones like this, are willing to go to 99% certain death at the hands of a giant killing machine so that guys way behind him may have a chance at wearing said killing machine out?

So basically we either scare them off or we kill tons of them before dying.
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We might break a sweat punching the last one of them to death since we'll run out of bullets before they run out of screamers.
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With our BattleMechs.

Not too hard desu.
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Alright lads! Lets give them a taste of the old pike and shot!
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>>55127487
AAAGHH DAVOS SAVE ME, SAVE ME DAVOS
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THE WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE IS PREGNANT.
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>>55127092
>>55128718
>Pikes. Lots of fucking pikes
Pretty much. Don't horses refuse to get themselves impaled by a spearwall?
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>>55126333
Have scouts and light that field on fire when they approach.
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>>55128855
Nope, large beasts legendary for their skittishness will valiantly impale themselves upon a painful wall of steel and sinew at full gallop.
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>>55127665
I thought its was because it was hard to get across capitalisation in speech.
While it's dumb, you gotta remember a lot of the audience genuinely think the girl with the dragons is called Khaleesi
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>>55128256
Sadly Dothraki are also very capable archers in the fluff
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>>55127665
>but the showrunners changed it because they unironically thought that people would confused a species of frozen ice fairies with a magical zombie army for the villains in Lost if they had the same name.

Dumb and Dumber are really some of the most clueless baboons in the history of television, their genius of the first four seasons was attributed entirely to copying The Fat Man's writing wholesale, and once the lard-laden wellspring ran dry so too did the writing quality of the show.

I should know, I'm a crayola factory worker where Dabid personally orders his fresh stock of writing material.
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>>55126333
All you'd need is twenty good men
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>>55128718
Tercios are so fucking aesthetic.
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let them charge me while the rest of the party drops back and drops fireballs on everything. i've tanked gods by myself. that's what happens when everyone but you is a caster.

i hate them so much.
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>>55129085
Why the fuck don't more fantasy settings take place in the 16th century? It's got literally everything you'd want for adventure, on top of centralized states ran by monarchs, large urban centers and exploration!
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>>55129114
You'd think you would've been roasted to cinders by the rest of your party by now.
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>>55129116
Because they'd all just be WHF in the end.
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>>55129116
Because feudalism loving spergs cannot into renaissance.
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>>55129130
anticipating what was to come, i've dedicated my character to NEVER FUCKING DYING. and because of GWM, he still hits like a fucking freight train, besides taking damage like one.
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>>55129147
Is there something wrong with a Not!WHF TTRPG setting?
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>>55129116
I prefer Byzantium to be honest.
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Fall back and call in the napalm
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>>55126333
Whatever happens,
We have got,
The Maxim Gun,
And they have not.
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>>55129697
Why not both? Just assume Byzantium won out against the Ottomans.
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That's easy!

We just make them listen to the voice of REASON.
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=1746
(preferably use several of them, since only one won't be heard by everybody due to all the screaming ...)
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>>55127593
To be fair, most of the Ghiscari immigrants won't make too much of a difference in Westeros' ethnic makeup in the long term.

Not without cocks, anyway.
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>>55129078
What if there's only one bitch that needs to be impregnated?
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>>55129114
>tanked gods

How?
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>>55129038
Nope, D&D said that but Martin claimed the former.
Given that when they stopping having Martin-written material to copy the show's writing saw a massive drop in quality, I think we can safely conclude which of the more retarded explanations is more correct.
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>>55126333
Would 3-4 castings of earth to mud or grease work?
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Well we're playing Exalted so relatively easily.
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>horsekeepers that spend their lives raiding defenseless villages and having their best warriors kill each other are somehow on an entirely separate level than professional soldiers from a standing army

>light cavalry stomps heavy infantry in a head-on battle
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>>55128162
Jaghatai likes to go fast
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>>55126333
Orbital bombardment.

What? We have a voidship and we are not idiots.
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>>55126333
Fielding enough Tercios.
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>>55128585

You've got Delirium on your side as well.
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>>55132799
They did create some pretty impressive holes in their lines what with the 50 foot long monster that breathes fire.
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>>55132799
It was a thin line of infantry they had to smash.
And the dragon didn't help the poor sods to hold ground
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A DOTHRAKI WHORE NED

ON AN OPEN FIELD NED
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>>55126696
Unless your mercenary company vastly outnumbers them, Dothraki use dragonbone bows to fire from much further than most Westerosi crossbows, and certainly much faster rate of fire than any musket. They wouldn't charge a pike line. Dothraki are uncivilized but not stupid.
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>>55132799
>A three rank deep line armed with short stubby spears and kite shields fail to stop a massive army of cavalry that outnumbers then 10 to 1 and has a dragon
>This is somehow an absurd outcome.

Yeah man, you are such a clever strategist. Too bad HBO couldn't afford your consultant rates.
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>>55133528
GODS! I USED TO BE A HORSE
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>>55126333

We're Solars. They're fucked.

(More specifically, Sorcery and Tiger-Warrior Training Technique. Sorcery gives you vast numbers of demons, the latter lets you mass-produce crack soldiers.)
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>>55127092
the dothraki wouldn't just charge your shield wall, they're not retarded
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>>55126333
>>55127487
I WARNED YA SHIIIETS!!!
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>>55127593
A bigger concern is how the fuck she plans to feed them with Winter here and the Reach's stocks already depleted by the Lannister army.

In fact I'm confused by what was in the caravans Danny blew up, it sounded like the gold was in the city safely before she attacked, and the Golden Company is still on the march to come to Cersi's aid... so did Danny burn the fuck out of highly valuable food supplies?
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>>55132799
she had fucking dragons you mong
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>>55126657
this. a 1000 times. a simple immunity to fire spell should do the trick.

i'ma call it a /thread here.
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>>55134072
There is literally a story in the history of Essos where 25,000 Dorthraki charge a spear wall 3,000 strong like 18 times over 3 days, then the 12,000 survivors cut their braids off and leave and THE WHOLE TIME THE SPEAR FORMATION'S FLANKS WHERE EXPOSED BUT IT WAS A MATTER OF HONOUR TO CHARGE FRONT ON.
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>>55126333
>"Don't mind me /tg/. I'm off to destabalize another region with my- what you call that term? Kaikauks? Yes that's it."
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>>55126333
Just like we did in real life, heavy forests, and castles.
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>>55129062
>I should know, I'm a crayola factory worker where Dabid personally orders his fresh stock of writing material.
we really didn't need your testimony to figure that out though. they're average hollywood hacks, that much is clear by now. they might as well work on a future season of shannara and you'd see no improvement in that show.
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>>55126333
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>>55127593
>suddenly be much more diverse then it used to be with all those Dothraki and Ghinscari folks arriving with Dany.
that's the other thing. you got a 100.000 potent young dothraki men - apparently they all have been turned into unsullied by now or else there'd be a lot of cultural enrichment going on by now.
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>>55134172
It was covered in that episode, they sent the gold ahead. One of the generals said that all the gold was safely through the gates of kings landing when talking to Jamie
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>>55133145
To which country belongs that flag? or is it fantasy?
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>>55134476
It's the Spanish Cross of Burgundy.
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>>55134172
It was a wagon delivery
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>>55134498
>Spain
>People in pic look white
nah, srly, which country?
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What are their stats?.
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>>55133189
That might actually be the biggest decider.
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>>55134578
My bad, it was actually a false flag operation by the perfidious Swedes to instigate hostilities between the French and Spanish.
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>>55133145
>tercios
If firearms exist nomads are dead.
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Tight hollow spear blocks with archers inside. Rigid training to ensure the men hold ranks. Horses will not charge formed men.

Failing that or with less capable men schiltroms. Light cavalry are totally ineffective against disciplined infantry.
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>>55126333
What's with the giant floating stone head?
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autocannons and heavy bolters. Flamers and heavy flamers when they get close. Maybe even stay inside the Chimera after we lascannon/missile the fuck out of the lone dragon. It'll be like bringing down a Helldrake.
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>>55134638
He warned them about this.
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I suspect our small army of combat servitors and cultists that the Magos and Slaaneshi face have put together backed up with some fortifications and a few Chaos Champions hacking their way though anything that threatens the line would do a pretty good job, since somehow I doubt their bows outrange or outpunch heavy bolters. We do have gunships,so the dragon(s?) would last about ten seconds given they're basic vastly shitter Heldrakes with a worse pilot, at which point I suppose we just strafe them over and over. We're Black Crusade high-rankers, normally the "charge them with hordes of cannon fodder" is our thing.
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>>55134638
It's a meme from /tv/
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>>55126333
We'd hole up in a walled city, then disperse them by sending agents to either pay them off, manipulate thier leadership or magically poison an entire fucking lake they are using as a watersource. The only fight would be a token one forced on us by a frustrated DM, whose plans of pitched battles are yet again ruined.
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>>55134638
SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT
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By casting silence.
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>>55126333
My party better get serious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydxIeO-2C2M
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>>55126333
with a mage on a big dragon

alternatively with a mage that turns into a big dragon, but he claims that breathing fire makes his throat chafe afterwards
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>>55129149
If it has full plate, it IS renaissance, anon
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Makes you wonder. If it's that easy to bring down a GoT dragon, they probably don't have the DR levels that typucal D&D dragons have. So maybe even a single lightning bolt would down it. Magic missile would auto target the rider. Mass cloudkills and fireballs should deal with the horsemen.
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>>55126333
Do you wish for some more wine /tg/?
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>>55126333

"This is admiral Salen Kotch of the Settlement Defense Front here to make an announcement. I' am to not be, and should not be mistaken for that nobleman lord named 'Jon Snow', who resides in some obscure continent known as Westoros in some unnamed feudal-archaic world. For I am not the illegitimate child-spawn of other filthy fuedal nobles nammed 'Ray-ghar' or Lisa, nor have I bedded redhead snow barbarian or a white haired dragon wench, that is all. Mars Eternum."
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>>55135022
Shut up, Egg on
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>>55134189
He's right ya know
awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Three_Thousand_of_Qohor
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>>55134638
It's part of one of the most painfully forced memes in over a decade, done largely by an abatap tier sperger on /tv/
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>>55134961
GOOOOOOODS WHAT A STUPID BOOOOOOOAAAAR
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i think we'll do just fine....
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>>55134390
Ugh, can you just... Not? Westeros is not going to be the monolithic culture of boring white people doing boring white things it used to be, Khaleesi is here to Break The Wheelâ„¢ and she will do it with Jon "You Know Nothing" Snow. Beautiful brown babies born to blonde white mothers will be the norm, and it will be wonderful!
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>>55134159
That's literally a thing they did you moron
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>>55128591
my nigger
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>>55135022
Peace to the Fallen/10 post
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>>55128162
ULTRA
RAPID
DEPLOYMENT
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>>55134638
ZARDOZ
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>>55135203
fuck thats retarded, i'd forgot how utterly stupid the screamers were
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>>55134159
of course they would- their "honor" code is retarded as fuck
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>>55129116
Because that's not a prehistoric setting any longer.
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>>55134072
Dragonbone bows are extremely rare and expensive and the average Dothraki has never even seen one
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>>55134125
While this is true and it's not outrageous that they win an engagement against a small chunk of tired lannister soldiers, Jamie after that keeps referring to them as some unstoppable savage warriors. Because d&d apparently forgot the dothraki were already established as being ineffective against armored foes having mostly been slaying sheep farmers as of late.

So rather than saying they're too good of fighters to defeat, Jamie should be saying there's too many to defeat with a dragon flying around. I think d&d somewhat realized their mistake because they nodded at this a few episodes later.
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>>55135711
>Because d&d apparently forgot the dothraki were already established as being ineffective against armored foes having mostly been slaying sheep farmers as of late.

>Your people can't fight
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>people keep comparing the Dothraki to the Mongols
>when they completely lack siegecraft ability or a leader capable of singlehandedly spawning a significant fraction of the human race

Not that siegecraft matters in the show, since Jaime apparently managed to take Highgarden with infantry and cavalry alone.
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>>55135739
I was referring to season 1, not the same episode in question
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>>55134927
>If it has full plate, it IS renaissance, anon

Not necessarily. AD&D had full plate, but explicitly made it so that suits were super rare, making them was basically a state secret, and they were essentially a second skin that you could move around in without much encumbrance and still be pretty much invulnerable.
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>>55126333
Strafing runs in our starship. Or we would just leave.
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>>55135802
>I was referring to season 1

Season 1 might as well have not existed.
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>>55129078

I am confused by the filename
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>>55135827

It's one of his Smug Anime Girl reaction images, anon, in the (Bolton) category, and the (Male) subcategory
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>>55135823
Thank you for reiterating my post
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>>55135711
the dothraki are very much not the mongols, they dont believe in big flowery tactics or anything of that nature, their only strengths are numbers, mobility and in the books bartering
the introduction of Drogo in the show is him on a horse grunting like a savage
his introduction in the books is at a nobles manse wearing silk robes engaging in conversation with some pentoshi nobles (i forget if he was talking to the brother of the lord of braavos or if that guy was just mentioned as being in the room)
but still
they took away their only aspect of civilization was their somewhat mercantile nature and just kept all the mindless savagery
tis sad
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>>55126333
Most of the players leave on a beer run. Against a horde of that magnitude, one warrior usually suffices.
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>>55134072
>Dothraki are uncivilized but not stupid.
>Sea bad, we not cross
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>>55134578
die
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>>55135790
Yeah it always bugs me cause the Mongols would laugh at them. No proper armour, no grand strategy, just charge and they engage in actual one on one combat instead of just shooting arrows all day then cycling out your troops so the enemy can't sleep.
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>>55126333
I, as the navigator grin. The others turn their backs as around 150,000 heads pop.
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>>55136056
makes me wonder how the other barbarians-on-horses the Jhogos Nhai fight, aside from the conehead shenanigans and they fact that they constantly raid Not!Asia kingdoms they dont have alot of story, but then again they are as far away from the actual content of the books as you can get and still be mentioned
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>>55136103
I mean Yiti is a right mess, any cohesive force larger than 50 could easily cuase huge troubles, since most of the armies in Yiti are to busy fighting eachother.
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>>55136138
still...conehead barbarians!
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>>55128591
>>55135453
>how would one defeat this large medieval force of savage horsemen?
>"WHY, WITH THE SPACEMARINES OF COURSE!"

Why does every thread need to have this bullshit forced into it?
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>>55136453
because 40kfags dont get how bad their setting is
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>>55135453
>>55135391
>>55128591
So how would an unsupported squad of veteran marines fare against 150 000 screamers? I'm sure nothing those screamers have can even dent the weakest part of a power armor, but that's a lot of screamers. Lets say those screamers absolutely need to kill the marines, so they won't flee immediately against these giant metal men.
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>>55136543
they swarm them and essentially bear down on them
if they are 100% commited to it then yeah, just crush them under pure weight and pry at whatever joints/anything you can get at
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>>55136453
>how would your party
>your party
the ffg 40k rpg's are fairly popular it turns out
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>>55136453
>A question was asked.
>An answer was given.
>An anon gets triggered.
It's poetry.
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>>55136453
Because "your party" imply numerous, incredible variables.

Do you think those savage horsemen would fare better against a circle of Exalted?
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>>55136453
It's not like a party of Mages from the WoD or an high level DnD party would have more problems than the space marines.
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>>55136568
I thought so too, they'd probably die by having 150 000 fucking horses dumped on them.
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That's a lot of screamers. I don't think even we have enough bullets or missiles for this one. But we do have a VTOL plane. Fly away, come back with more explosives, hope screamers can't fly.
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>>55126333
With machineguns, grenades, drones controlled by a rigger, and a bunch of summoned spirits, including bug spirits. The physical adept wouldn't be of much use.

Our other shadowrun party has access to orbital microwave cannons that can kill everyone in a city block, so we'd use that.
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>>55136453
would you rather this be about exalted? or casters turning them into mushy paste? or even shadowrunners gunning them down with guns?
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>>55127433
More Boar, your wine?
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>>55126333
One wizard.
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>>55126333
did anyone else see a giant, disembodied asshole attacking the horse-dudes in the OP at first glance?
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>>55136543
There's a bit in one Heresy book where around 250 unarmed and malnourished cultists (inc. women and children) rush a Death Guard Marine in all his gear. He kills a couple dozen, but they eventually swarm him and beat the joints of his armour with sharp rocks and such, and he dies. The Dothraki are in good physical shape, have weapons and horses to get closer and there's easily enough of them, they could easily manage it if they didn't break and flee during the first minute or two of them being blended pretty hard by the squad until they close and start lynching the Marines.
A good chunk of the horrses would probably refuse to charge into the hail of bolt shells, though. They may have better odds on foot, depending on the terrain.
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>>55126333
>my actual group
Transport a photon torpedo into their midst and engineer a number of local historians to write about the event as a "freak meteor strike"

>a theoretical group in asoiaf rp of which I'm a member
In the past, my real group has advocated a scorched Earth retreat strategy. So I imagine they would do the same here. If there's over a 100k of the fuckers I can't imagine they'll be able to last long on their own supplies so our best bet is drawing them beyond their supply lines and then watch the fuckers starve.
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>conducting a mass cavalry attack on an entire army without infantry support
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>>55136713
GO GET THE BOAR-STRETCHER.
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>>55136818
theres also a horus heresy book (a thousand sons) where an individual marine legionnaire is stated to be enough to conquer a world

so maybe death guard are just shitters
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>>55136883
Well yes, have you seen the condition of their armor? No wonder starving children were able to break it.
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>>55136864
At once, your grace. But perhaps first you'd like some more wine?
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>>55136883
Um. No. Figure of speech, probably, because that doesn't make ANY sense even at the highest possible extremes of MarineWank. They almost always get killed outright by a lascannon or missile hit, and a battle cannon can take out half a squad if it hits dead on. He could probably rip the hell out of a couple village.s, but he'd die if he tried to take anything big on directly.
Hell, unless the Primarch is Magnus I doubt that even they could conquer a world singlehandedly without doing their usual thing and making allies, because they'd eventually go down to a couple lucky lascannon hits or they'd get warpbombed or nuked. Magnus is just OPPLZNERF alpha-psyker nonsense.
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>>55136936
There's a big big difference between societies that have lascannons and a bunch of howling savages on horseback using bows, spears, and arrows.
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>>55136936
>lascannon or missile hit
most worlds at the time didnt have those- since the imperium didnt conquer them yet

think medieval tech most likely
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>>55136683
My real problem with the 40k shoehorning comes from the usual "I'm a petulant little shit" attitude of those involved, who usually say some stupid shit like "oh ho we may actually get tired after punching them all to death with our unstoppable iron fists!"

It's the kind of edgy shitposting typical to fans of 40k. A bunch of children who somehow manage to be both incredibly assured that their setting is "The Strongest," while simultaneously being incredibly sensitive to any discussion that doesn't involve said setting or suggests that it might not be the obvious answer to the question.
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>>55136975
>oh ho we may actually get tired after punching them all to death with our unstoppable iron fists!
as opposed to

>i guess our wizard has the 10 seconds of spare time it would take to turn them into ash
>guess we gun them down with ease
>nuke from orbit

also
>edgy
nigger, its literally how it would go- its an incredibly one sided engagement, what did you expect?
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>>55136965
Yep, but not enough of one to let one or two squads of Marines kill a hundred thousand guys. We've seen that, too. In what I think was the 5th ed. CSM Dex a Feral Worlder on foot gets a lucky hit on a damaged section of armour with a broken lance, AKA a pointy stick, and manages to kill the Marine. They're good, but not that good, and planets are kinda large. Even if they were unstoppable, twenty guys can just about be some roaming minor natural disasters to a couple of countries. If they split up like that they'd be even MORE vulnerable to being swarmed, too.
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>>55126333
Depends. I like to start campaigns in places like the city dungeon or on a train car or what have you, where the party members have reason to shoot the shit and introduce themselves to one another under the expectation that they're not going anywhere for awhile before I interrupt a conversation in progress with "EVERYONE ROLL ___" because shit is going down

I like to start one-shots right before the party arrives at the destination of whatever task or quest they've been given, to let them decide how to approach or prepare before they actually delve into the ruins/caves/bandit hideout
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>>55137042
>a Feral Worlder on foot gets a lucky hit on a damaged section of armour with a broken lance
once the armor is breached from gunfire
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>>55137038
well noone said D&D fags arent as stupid as 40kfags
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>>55137085
except the vast majority of parties(all those either high tech or high level) will have the same outcome you shitflinging monkey

>baww why dont these people who can kill satan take my horde of savages with horses like a credible threat
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>>55137071
Well, it said it looked kinda melted, so probably a glancing hit from a melta or warpfire or something. Still, combine that with the pretty explicit Death Guard example and it's fairly obvious a crowd of people can kill a Marine, and professional soldiers and generally strong and healthy people with their own sharp bits and swords will have an easier time than a bunch of malnourished civvies with fists and rocks.
Hell, eventually he's going to run out of power for that armour suit, even if takes months. Then he's either much slower or way more vulnerable. You'd need at least a few dozen Marines to cover each other, a squad of ten Deathwatch tops won't cut it.
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>>55137042
We have historical reports of single guys in plate armour holding off and killing hundreds of men at a chokepoint.

Once you factor morale and the fact that dothraki aren't mindless fanatics, once the marine have killed the first hundreds without breaking a sweat I highly doubt the others are going to simply crush them under the weight of their own deads.

Also this is not the situation in >>55136818 where a single marine get suddenly rushed by a hundred men. The marine squad can choose the field, can choose the terms of engagement, etc.

Of course if you put them on a open field with 150.000 mindlessy rushing them they are going to loose. But at that point you are just asking if a marine can survive a sudden avalanche of flesh.
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>>55137138
>melta or warpfire
which are both rather scary powerful shit

also, those humans had at least guns&cannons- so already leaps and bounds ahead of dothraki

>Hell, eventually he's going to run out of power for that armour suit, even if takes months
which is time that horde doesent have - since humans tend to be rather fragile compared to ceramite armored monsters

but yes, its doubtful a marine could actually conquer a world solo- if only because he couldnt hold it

>>55137145
>150.000 mindlessy rushing them they are going to loose
id say it would depend on the equipment and morale of the enemy- dont underestimate the impact of your friends turning into fleshy mist out of nowhere
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>>55136975
Well, ok. However in my current party the undead guy simply punch them to death one after another. He's usually a caster, but he never get tired and they lack magic weapons, so they literally have no way to defeat him.

the rest of the party simply look.
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>>55137116
Actually it's
>Why the fuck are people even talking about their stupid fucking space marines in this thread "OHHH WE BEAT THE WITH EASE FOR THE EMPEROR OF COURSE" obviously that's what happens you fucking mongoloids you're bringing a bunch of rocket launchers to a cavalry fight

Also, as stupid as DnD players are, at the very least the wizard would, at some point, run out of spells.

But please, go ahead an continue to cry about people telling you that bringing your juvenile retard edgelord franchise into a thread about fighting cavalry was a stupid thing to do.
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>>55137248
>Why the fuck are people even talking about their stupid fucking space marines in this thread "OHHH WE BEAT THE WITH EASE FOR THE EMPEROR OF COURSE" obviously that's what happens you fucking mongoloids you're bringing a bunch of rocket launchers to a cavalry fight
because thats what the thread question was?

if you are going to ask about people parties you dont get to spaz out over someone exalted/40k party/ level 20 caster shitting over anything sans azathoth
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>>55137245
Is the undead guy wearing some kind of magic armor or something? I'm pretty sure that many opponents against one humanoid, no matter how "unstoppable" would eventually be overrun.

We're not talking about combat in 6 foot squares with dice rolls, we're talking about 150,000 dudes on horses against one guy. They could literally just grapple you to the ground, pry any sort of weapon or casting medium out of your hands, rip your armor off, and keep on rolling.
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>>55137248
>at the very least the wizard would, at some point, run out of spells.
before or after the continent of westeros becomes a crater?
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>>55137145
>>55137220

I imagine that a Marine squad in a cityfight would be rather like a long match of Warframe with more bulldozing and less acrobatics. They'll pretty easily butcher their way though everything for a good while, but if one or two of them fucks up and gets in a tight space with too many guys it's pretty likely they're going to have a bad day. They certainly couldn't hold a planet, they'd struggle to hold a country.

To be fair, the situation was "Deathwatch squad being charged by 150'000 Dothraki", not "Deathwatch Squad dropped somewhere in the world and told to deal with the Dothraki over the next few months.".They'd do a lot better in rough terrain or mountains or something, or in urban combat.
I do think you overrate the morale thing where it comes to some of the forces in Westeros, it's not like they lack for crazed zealots or those unaffected by pain or fear there. The Dothraki might well break, but I suspect that if they manage to actually get into melee and start swarming them they won't until they're dead, since there's a whole bunch of other guys behind them and they can't really retreat.
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>>55137292
>We're not talking about combat in 6 foot squares with dice rolls, we're talking about 150,000 dudes on horses against one guy.
>conveyed through combat in 6 foot squares with dice rolls


>>55137353
>I do think you overrate the morale thing where it comes to some of the forces in Westeros

look at the effect the dragon had on the lannisters- now reverse that and instead of a flamethrower its explosions out of nowhere and weapons that sound like a mountain is collapsing, and that those weapons are wielded by what appear to be indestructible giants

facing an unknows foe with devastating weaponry is a scary thing, sure if they keep at it long enough they might get the marines under sheer mountains of flesh, but they dont know that- all they see is their weapons doing nothing and their allies brutalized with ease
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>>55137292
No, he's an undead with damage reduction and regeneration. No magic means that they can't literally damage him.

Also he doesn't tire. Ever. He's also a high level PC, so the ones that get to grab him are getting strangled one after another.

This is of course ignoring everything else about him. Just turning on his negative energy aura means that now they can't even reach him without becoming zombies under his command.

And this is just one PC.

Warhammer 40k is extremely low power compared to the bullshit you get to do in fantasy rpg.

>inb4 dnd shit

Exalted
Mage
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>>55137455
>waah 40k is undermining my thread

>have some exalted instead
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>>55137419
That's scary as hell, yes, but given that desperate civilians are often persuaded to rush Marines in 40k fiction and the Dothraki are bloody-mindedly stubborn enough to charge a shield/spear wall over a dozen times and take over 50% casualties before giving up I think they might manage it. Outside of melee they're just seeing arrows bounce off plate armour, which isn't exactly that strange even if you'd normally expect to stagger someone with that. Once they're in the melee blender then they're pretty committed anyway, they don't have any choice.
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>>55137526
You realize that after the first dozens die their companions have to literally climb a mountain of their dead allies to get to the marines?

How the hell do you think this is not going to break morale?
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>>55137526
>but given that desperate civilians are often persuaded to rush Marines in 40k fiction
usually through either insanity inducing drugs/warp shenanigans or supernatural charisma/things scarier than marines

>the dothraky are bloody minded enough
true, but they know what unsullied are, and that was more a case of honor than anything else- and they still ran away after the first 15,000

it will literally end up being the case that any dothraky that wants to kill them will be climbing a mountain of his fellows dead bodies
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>>55126333
What if I have 20 Good Men?
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what time of day is it? because if its night they literally cant win against the vampire
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>>55126333
Pike squares with crossbowmen.

Heavy infantry.

Withdrawing to favorable terrain.

Setting the grass on fire behind them when they engage.
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>>55137546
>>55137560

Isn't that pretty much the case with every cavalry charge ever into enemy fire? That's not new, and it's not like anyone who touches the Marines dies instantly. There's only six or seven boltguns, which is a lot of dakka but not exactly "ramp of bodies" level until melee starts happening, at which point the Marines can't shoot anymore and will pretty quickly be surrounded and overrun. Also, they do have to reload, it's not just half a dozen continuous streams of explosions and bolter fire rate is slow enough to make out individual shots.
Doesn't matter whether they're charging because they're brave or as a matter of honour, you just have to get them to do it, and on that list of "Scarier than Marines" is apparently Commissars and Renegade Enforcers, so it's not exactly supernatural.

If it was just three or four thousand, maybe, but 150k is a HELL of a lot of men.
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>>55127487
>>55127433
I knee you fuckers were dual boarders

Aaagh Sansa save me
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>>55137661
>There's only six or seven boltguns
it depends on the loadout

but i assume that a deatwatch team will have flamers/heavy bolters and other nastier stuff

>commisars/renegade enforcers
commisars being able to discipline men to the extent where they will charge marines is a thing, but even then the men will run

>renegade enforcers
its not the enforcers so much as the chaos corruption and promise of immortality and power

>150k is a hell of alot
it is- but they wont all be engaged at the same time- since there is only so many dudes on horses who can get close to a marine
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>>55134958
Magic missile is a stupid spell, why do wizards get a basic spell that never misses like that? Can't be blocked or evaded.
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AGGHH SANSA PLEASE SANSA I WUB U
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>>55137837
>>55137667
FEWER
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>>55137719
Think this is probably one of those "agree to disagree" moments, honestly. Still, I do think that you're not quite getting the scale here sometimes, sure you can't melee ALL those dudes against the Marine squad but they're numerous enough to surround them and just keep going, since the ones at the front will have trouble retreating through the swarm of dudes and/or horses.
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>>55137893
well its not like marines dont deal with those kind of sitiations, and against scarier foes than horsemen (nids and whatnot)


>since the ones at the front will have trouble retreating through the swarm of dudes and/or horses.
they will also have trouble climbing the mountain of corpses- look at the pile that formed from just ramseys archers and cavalry charge, imagine what a thundehammer or heavy bolter would do
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>>55137667
Don't make me bring rape into this
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EXPLAIN THE DAMN MEME BEFORE I PISSED MESELF
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He didn't die so good!
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>>55138084
It's funny, book littlefinger would never have been in this situation.

But show littlefinger has ran out of use. The show doesn't want to show intrigue or plots anymore, we've had enough of that. Now is the time for humans vs zombobos.
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>>55137991
THE WHORE IS A BOAR I FUCKED IN THE WAR.
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>>55138152
then what you're saying is

THE BOOOOOOOOOAR IS PREGNANT
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>>55134578
Unless you are German or from even further North, you have no right to call yourself white.
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>>55126333
Pile up my drone mounter LMGs and shoot the fuck out of them while trying not to think about how fucking expensive ammo is. The rest of the party... Idk, they can play poker or some shit.

Yay riggers.
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>>55126333
With ease
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>>55138291
>rorkes drift 2.0
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>Urine Greyjoy
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>>55138133
Well, they had to shovel that shit before another season of TWD reminds people how horrible zombies are, so go figure.
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>>55138175
WE CALLED IT MAKING THE EIGHT.
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>>55134611
>If someone figures out tabor fighting, nomads are dead
Here, ftfy. You don't even need firearms if you have portable fortress on wheels

And then you can combine firearms with carts to get absurdly effective tachankas
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>>55137893
There are two possible cases.

In the first, you have a literal human tide, where the first men are being pushed by the hundreds of thousand behind them.

In this case, the marines can't possibli kill them all, but at the same time the men in the front can't take the time to kill the marines because they are being pushed by those behind, so they either try to stop and be trampled or they try to trample the marines.

The marines get overrun, no question there. But at the same time power armor is able to withstand the foot and hooves of the horses trampling them, so the marine get up when the literal river of people ends.

In the second case, you still have hundreds of thousands of people, but they are not being literally pushed forward.

In this case, after the first hundred casualties, that the Marines can easily enought do, the other dothraki have to literally climb a gigantic mountain of corpses to reach the marines.

Not only this is devastating for the morale, but they making their own dangerous terrain, as good luck climbing a mountain of corpses with horses. You are not getting up there with more than a few men at once.
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>>55138487
>barbaric mindless savages on one side
>on the other side uruks
kek
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>>55138512
He gets it.
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>>55138456
They're not literally going to shove the entire horde of dudes past the Marines, surely they'd at least stop for a couple hacks at the downed Astartes first. Hell, at that point just dismount and swarm them that way.
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>>55132769
>Zenith uses a combination of speech and survival to take both army and dragons to their side in the span of an hour.
>Dawn leaps up high and kills the dragons, spends a turn or two after that dealing with a bloated battlegroup
>Twilight simply nukes them en masse
>Night murdered the Khaleesi last night and impersonates her flawlessly
>Screamers die as soon as they make landfall by overdosing on discount heroin supplied by Eclipse
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>>55138560
I think you are not really understanding the number. A single fraction of that army is so numerous that good luck for those behind to understand what's happening in the front. When you have a hundred of people behind you pushing even simply try to kneel to hit the marine on the ground is gonna have you trampled. On foot and on horseback is literally the same.
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Literally trench warfare.

The Mongols were at their best in the open plains and fields. When they came across the dense forests and fortresses of Europe they stopped in their path.

Also they were unable to conquer the west for the same reason the Ottomans were unable to.
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>>55127168
FUND THIS
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>>55138673
Serious question, what reason?
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>>55138633
So what, they just stomp all over the marines until they've all had a go and then give up and go home? They're going to kill them eventually even just by sheer weight of stomping and stabbing at joints on the way past. Once they've got the Marines on the ground the bloodbath is WAY less severe.
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>Everyone here thinks the marines will just stand there and take it.
The first thing a squad of super soldiers with centuries of experience will do is to get the fuck out of there. These guys run nearly as fast as horses so they'll do a tactical retreat and try to get to higher ground or a natural funnel. They're not dumb enough to tell themselves "yup, a literal army is running at us on their favoured terrain. Stand your grounds, men."
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>>55138712
We had better organisation of militant society.

Whereas the Caliphates relied primarily on hosts of mercenaries and peasant conscripts headed by small groups of elite soldiery - the European cultures had practiced internecine warfare between this and that lord for centuries.

Your average peasant was expected at least to be able to hold a spear or bow by the time the Mongols showed up, which is why we became excellent at extended siege warfare. To an extent this was also true of the Islamic Empires where the average soldier had either been whipped into line or brainwashed into obedience.

In the plains of Eurasia, there were not substantial enough fortifications as is the case throughout Western and Northern Europe where resupply and reinforcement was possible.

We had a better command network. That's all. The Mongol Tide broke against the Euro Rock.

With the Islamic Empires it was simply a case that our rocks were better than theirs.
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>>55138835
Implying they wouldn't build fortifications out of dead horses and men.
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>>55138633
>that good luck for those behind to understand what's happening in the front
double edges sword

if the front breaks and tries to run itll send shockwaves

>hear thunder and see explosion
>suddenly the men try to run
many will simply be carried by the horde trying to avoid turning into nomad craters- not to mention the horses being spooked and shit
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>>55126333
By turning it into a siege.
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>>55126333
>his party hasn't managed to ally itself with a two jabberwockies
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>>55138754
>So what, they just stomp all over the marines until they've all had a go and then give up and go home?

A literal human tide of a hundred thousand men charging at the same time has literally no other option.

I think you fail to realize how fucking unwwieldly is a group so large.

And if instead it's divided in lesser groups it's the same "having to climb a mountain of corpses to reach them" problem.
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>>55139225
>And if instead it's divided in lesser groups it's the same "having to climb a mountain of corpses to reach them" problem.
it has that problem anyways

their victory condition is to drown the enemy in a tide of corpses, and there WILL be many corpses since it lightly armored cavalry charging against some of the most powerful fighters in a stupidly retarded setting- where far more dangerous enemies try that strategy and fail

also keep in mind the dothraki had an issue getting through a shield wall 3 men deep, which held them for a while
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>>55136883
that may be true in the case of one of the thousand sons because of their psychic powers.
but there is no single marine who would be able to do such a thing to anything that is not a world controlled by primitive tribes
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>>55139357
well like 10 marines managed to reconquer a world from a genestealer cult and even start an empire when the sergeant turned rouge - and thats in a high tech world

in a medieval world who knows
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>>55139394
10 marines are not even remotely similar to a single marine
as strong as the marines may be one can only carry so many provisions.
and if we were to assume that the marines can utilize machines then you would have an astronomical difference between one marine and 10.

can you give me a source on that? sounds quite interesting.
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>>55139456
the Octavian iconoclasm or something

its in "treacheries of the space marines"

tl;dr sergeant goes nuts and

>10=/=1

very true, but a 40k era world is also far different that a medieval one
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In the show they have often had the element of surprise and attacked unsuspecting people and troops who were not expecting the Dothraki to be there. That is when they are at their best, when they are quickly swooping in to kill the defenseless before they even know what is happening.

In this scenario we seem to at least be aware that we will be meeting them in the field and as such we would be able to make proper plans and preparations for their tactics. We would have a much better chance of beating them than unprepared Lannister troops exhausted from a previous battle.
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>>55139865
>unprepared Lannister troops exhausted from a previous battle.
without the dragon ruining everything it was honestly not that bad for the lannisters
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>>55126333
We'd use our gold to hire one unit of plate armored pikemen and form a small scale tercio.

Dothraki are so retarded that anything even resembling real life tactics would slaughter them.
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>>55135022

Fuck, I read this on Kit's voice and the memory of his completely autistic yet oddly cool performance made me replay the game. Thank you, anon.
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>>55139967
Pretty much. Dothraki honor demands you actually get in the teeth of your enemy and fight, so put heavy infantry with crossbow or longbowmen on a hill (make one if necessary) and wait until they run out of arrows trying to punch plate. Once they charge in it's exhausted light cavalry with spears and scimitars and no armor against fresh, cranky heavy infantry with pikes or spears. Game over.


This is more or less how the Unsullied beat them, and generally how you beat any type of horse nigger stupid enough to give battle: let them fail to punch through your heavy armor and force them to either come to blows and lose or quit the field and lose.
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>>55138835
>They're not dumb enough to tell themselves "yup, a literal army is running at us on their favoured terrain. Stand your grounds, men."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkFo5SBx-g
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>>55135022
>Mars
I need to play this Call of Duty.
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>>55136543
You realize humans with bayonets can kill a space marine, right?
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>>55126333

Well, the nice thing about being GDI is you've got a lot of fire support. Start with an Ion Cannon strike, and keep calling in CAS until the Mammoths arrive. We'll be all right.
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>>55140097
and you realize space marines defeat alien hordes who can overrun planets right?
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>>55140095

Do it. The campaign is /tg/ like all fuck. You can hear the crunching of the character sheets if you listen closely. It has feels tho, so be prepared.
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>>55140080
Well, Boreale was in command of that group, so it's no surprise.
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>>55134072
Oh you sweet summer child. Tell me, how did Ney's cavalry fare against Wellington's squares? When a platoon of French Foreign Legion can hold out against 400 taureg cavalry I know the disciplined square wins the cavalry fight. The dothraki don't stand a chance against an early modern army. Hell the biggest threat is running out of ammunition.
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>>55140073
>crossbow or longbowmen
We've got guns so it'd actually be a lot worse than the Dothraki. Unfortunately we can't hire a hellfire battery, that would be fucking hilarious.
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>>55140828
cant you hire a hedge mage? i imagine something like lore of death would be sweet

even lore of fire
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>>55136975
Having played the deathwatch RPG, if the party was endgame they could survive by breaking the fuckers with fire support and sheer firepower.

It's retarded, but I had a group with a lot of supports that took on an ork army of thousands down by hosing them heavy bolter/autocannon fire, and calling in danger close laser strikes from their strikecruiser

Now 150,000 is meme tier, and they would get beaten to death if they closed the gap (I'd count them as cultists armed with primitive swords riding horses and shit) but they COULD do it.

But I will say it's not like the guy earlier saying 'lel we'll smack them with our fists'
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>>55130606
I got that reference even without the link! Snow Crash mang.
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>>55140130
>and you realize space marines defeat alien hordes who can overrun planets right?

definately takes more than 5
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>>55140922
this, and they have extra support other than themselves
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>>55140862
Possibly although it'd be incredibly expensive compared to a pike company. And we've already been able to broker deals with some infantry companies should we need them.
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>>55126333
By wearing actual armor instead of Lannister paper mache.

Going by the rules of the show, however, I would just need 10-20 good men, a flock of teleporting ravens, and access to Euron Greyjoy's supersonic fleet.
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>>55134159
The dothraki are completely retarded anon
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Land mines.

What do I win?
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>>55140097
Not really, even in the case of unarmoured Space Marines. They instantly scar so they won't die from blood loss, they have incredibly high bone density so good luck piercing their modified bone cage made of interlocking plates without gaps to reach their organs. They are also strong enought that normal humans simply aren't able to stop them from moving.

Yes, I know that there are cases in the fluff of pic related, but fluff is all over the place, there are extremes where Marines are literally demigods and opposite extremes where they are just big guardsmen ready to be slaughtered.
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>>55142417
>but fluff is all over the place, there are extremes where Marines are literally demigods and opposite extremes where they are just big guardsmen ready to be slaughtered.

...but of course your interpretation of the fluff is right and correct.
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>>55142490
for every instance of them jobbing theres 10 of them doing things that should be impossible even for space marines
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>>55142490
My interpretation of the fluff is simply to discard both kind of extremes and just go with both the middle ground and what capabilities marines have been described to have.

If we have a single case of a marine getting killed with rocks and one in which a single average marine can survive on a planet full of orks for ten years killing everything but never being defeated then maybe we shuld discard both of these things and go with "marines can't be killed by rocks, but can't kill entire waags alone".
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>>55142490
There are dozens of occasions where marines do stupid shit like overpowering two hundreds men or killing every man in a room in less than a second in melee.

Also a marine dying from getting stabbed with a normal weapon is nonsensical when we have pages on pages about the modifications that one man get to become a space marine, and half of that directly counter that possibility.

Either you discard all fringe cases or you keep all of them and go with the majority. Disregarding all the "MARINE POWAH" moments but keeping the situations in which a Marine is clearly jobbing is very disingenous.
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also deathwatch can be in a landraider crusader and have one or two dreadnoughts in support
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>>55138837
I agree with this post. The density of heavy fortifications in central/western Europe is the main reason the Mongols never were able to get further than Bohemia. It's also why the Second Mongol Invasion of Hungary failed.
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>>55126333
My last party would need just to roll a d4 to sort out who can massacre them all. The others would set back and watch.
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>>55143163
Rifts?
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>>55143163
simply good old-fashioned abuse of rules in pathfinder.
they're not even full casters with the exception of the jedi druid, who still didn't got past lv 6 spells. the blackblade magus is the only other caster, and the top killer. he killed five thousand enemies in a horde, alone, in something akin to four rounds abusing all sorts of cleave feats, speed boosts, and powerups. had to be saved from all the onnidirectional stabbings he got from the fuckers, but managed to survive as the horde fell from the skies.
He was level 12.
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>>55136568
Power in numbers, for sure.
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>>55126333
>My setting has (well, had) a faction similar to the Dothraki in that they were warlike equestrian steppe nomads
>More than a field army's worth of cavalry want to kill us
>Wunderbar.jpeg
>Call up the General Staff for a division's worth of soldiers
>Send light cavalry to scout for the Dothrakis' whereabouts and project their movements
>Friendly forces stage controlled fires along every dry grass and woodland ahead of the Dothraki horde, bar a trail of fodder/untouched leading to a battlefield of our choosing
>Prepare for battle if no hills or star forts are conveniently close
>Dig trenches, scatter caltrops, and construct many wooden fortifications to protect us and our cannon emplacements
>Win with volley fire and canister shot
>Jajaja
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>>55138512
Well, weren't the Uruks (at least under Saruman) an efficient military machine? I recall they were supposed to be some metaphor for industrialization destroying "muh beauty of nature" with their ripping up ancient forests to mass produce their armor and weaponry.

Uruks are based.
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>>55126333

Spears and bows
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>>55139916

Drogon broke the Lannister line and the Dothraki rolled them up. It was like some napoleonic shit with a flying artillery battery.
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>>55126333

It Ain't Me starts playing.
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>>55134216
The funny thing is both sides in that comic are germanic.
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>>55140104

We are going to have to act if we want to live in a different world.
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>>55134383
Images like this are why I love fantasy. A guy throwing a fireball or lightning bolt is cool but it feels common. There is not much emotional impact usually. But then you have people doing "force of nature" shit, that even knowing it is fiction, becomes awe inspiring.

Off top of my head is starkiller pulling a star destroyer out of orbit or voldemort breaking the hogwarts shield.
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>>55136818
I fucking hate seeing this shit in every thread when SM are mentioned. I don't even like slave marines and I'm triggered. They are the culmination of 40,000 years of technological advancement and warfare. Battle tested and forged against literal immortal physic space elves, green giants bio-engineered to be the perfect army, and skellintons who tell physics to fuck off. Any one being the worth of a hundred veteran guardsmen. A group of 100 expected to pacify a planet in their own top the point guardsmen can walk in and mop up afterwards.


> well in my novel (fanfiction) one of them gets taken out by 200 starving peasants.

How about go fuck yourself whoever wrote that.
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>>55126333
Well, they have a diverse set of talents ranging from social manipulation, the ability to make mighty machines, and of course a variety of allies they can call on to come to their aid.

So of course, they're going to try and go the direct combat route.

I'm the GM. Send help.
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>>55126333
>Tugs Braid
>Kicks them in the shins
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>>55136851
>"HOW? HOW CAN CAVALRY ADVANCE WITHOUT INFANTRY SUPPORT?"
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>>55126333
>>55126333
Bite the bullet pay the cost, or convince some lord(s) to cover the cost
Hire 50,000 Ashed mercenaries and call it a day.
>Heavy infantry
>Spears and big kukris
>Big ol' tower shields with rooting spikes
>Crossbows
>All well trained

Expensive as shit but its a pretty good solution
Either that or assassinate the Khal and get the bloodriders to split up the Khalasar
Easy enough, just wait for him to get injured and let his bimbo trophy wife have our witch poison him.
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>>55136818
>There's a bit in one Heresy book where around 250 unarmed and malnourished cultists (inc. women and children) rush a Death Guard Marine in all his gear. He kills a couple dozen, but they eventually swarm him and beat the joints of his armour with sharp rocks and such, and he dies.
There is no way.
SM armor has a protective underlayer that is pretty invulnerable to sharp rocks
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>>55129174
Especially since the original is pretty fucking dead at this point?
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>>55140772
>how did Ney's cavalry fare against Wellington's squares

It was such a good day too. Then you had to go and bring that up.
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Make fun of their dumb-as-fuck khopeshes-on-sterioids signature weapons until they all die of shame.
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>>55134072
>Dothraki use dragonbone bows
No, they don't. Idiot.
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>>55126333
By packing up and leaving. This planet is fucking loopy land. Fucking dragons, ice zombies, and multi-Jesus. If they insist, tell the lionman he can finally unpack that man portable fusion cannon he humps every night.
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>>55134172
Yeah it was a bunch of food.
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>>55127394
You guys need any help from a bored Essence 'lock? 'Cause I can fill that entire field, and everything else in a 150km radius, with Gympie-gympie, Tarantula Hawks, Yourgulat, Major Dragons, or multiple Shai Hulud in two turns.
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>>55141057
Indiscriminate landmine fire
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>>55136803
It fills me with the urge to defecate!
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so all im getting from this thread is that 40k is still the worst setting

thanks for confirming
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>>55126333
One shell at a time, I guess.

Or perhaps five shells at a time, considering everyone's in a mech.
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Monowire mines and Emergenseal turrets to break their ranks and cause panic, then plasma flamers and AP grenades to finish things off.

If we don't have any prep time, then replace the first step with heavy autogun suppression and flashbang clusters
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>>55126333
We lose get our asses kicked and make a peace deal with them.
Then year later after a building considerable amount of defenses to keep them out of our lands and heavy missionary work convert them to our side.
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Carefully but efficiently.
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We're riding in an armored scout car.

The top is usually open but we can roll down the flack sheet to buffer against arrows, we have a mounted pneumatic machine gun with a few hundred rounds, some grenades, and rifles, almost everyone has a couple of pistols.

We'll probably die once we run out of gas or throw a wheel plowing over some horsefucker, but we'll make a good fight of it. Might be able to radio in for help, but the kingdom is most likely to only launch a few light biplanes for assistance and further recon while mustering an alarm and shoring up the perimeter defenses. I suppose we can try and race back to the lines behind the trenches. No way a bunch of spearchucking tribals are getting past the wire, but it will be a real hell of a race.

Local price of ammo is likely to skyrocket, but the price of meat and leather will drop.
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>>55140104
Or be Nod and just, not be apparent or in sight, because fighting something like that head on is fucking stupid and instead flank and pulverize with stealth tanks.
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>>55126333
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>>55126333
Peasants with crossbows, giant shields and wagons. Wagons are pushed in front and behind the army to prevent cavalry charges, flanks have our elites, peasants fire from their gianthe shields as we exchange fire with puny barbarians. If they dismount we battle on foot with axes and halberds.

It worked for the Ottomans and Russians, it will work for us.
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>Get in airship
>Fly over them casting fireballs
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