Daily reminder that anything against the T'au is Imperial

reminder that Tau are fishy space gooks

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Space communists with mind control pheromones need to fuck off.

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>>55110304
Reminder that your species is so young you make the humans look ancient by comparison

Remind there are literally no good guys anywhere in 40k

>>55110321

>tau
>commies

Really made me think.

the tau are the most /k/
the death korps and 80% of the guard can rot in their shitty trenches while i play a real /k/ faction

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>>55110651
>A faction with gigantic rectangular battle rifles that clearly weigh 30 pounds unloaded and have no iron sights are /k/

Please. Just stop.

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>>55110703
>the faction that doesn't glorify melee combat to compensate for their malformed tiny dicks
>practices maneuver warfare well, among the most basic of military concepts that apparently even ancient empires have forgotten because brits can't do military science fiction if their shithole island depended on it
it's /k/-er than any faction you can think of retard

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>>55110792
Have you ever even been on /k/? Their obsession with nuggets and SKS clones with bayonets makes them the perfect fit for the Guard. Plus their unhealthy obsession with MBTs that shouldn't even still exist because there hasn't been a legitimate use for a tank since the Siege of Grozny.

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>>55110792
>authoritarian cuck state that probably doesnt even let its citizens use a butter knife unless they are part of the sandwich caste
Fucking dropped
Meanwhile
>own as many guns as you can buy, no regulation what-so-ever
>constant competition to see who owns the loudest, shootiest gun
>bands of orks with flashy guns actually form together into sekrit clubz and cosplay as pirates
>constant exciting ammunition experiments, crazy lasers, huge bullets, live creatures, garbage from the mek shop floor
>high-capacity magazines a-ok, democucks BTFO
>no techpriest cucks to tell you "oh no that device is heretical!"
>belt-fed pistols
>anti-tank rokkit pistols
Orks are the /k/est faction by far, all other armies are nanny-state cucks

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>>55111063
>/k/-est faction
>LMAO I MAKE GUN OUT OF TRASH CAN SO RANDUMB
>literally no military structure
orks are for the retards who flock to it for the meme stories and ivan jokes, the scum of the board

>>55111134
No, Orks are the /k/ers who think making napalm shotgun slugs are a good idea.

>>55111134
Tau is the most noguns faction in the whole setting, I bet even humies can choose to CC some weedy peashooter if they want, Tau aren't even allowed to choose their own partners

>>55111134
>>55110792
Tau is for the gearqueers and /arg/.

>>55111235
Humans have so many lasweapons and slug weapons that you could probably arm all of the trillions of humans with two or three each. Bolters, plasma, and other exotics are rarer. Flamers are semi-common, easily found in ecclisiarchy aligned areas.

>>55110523
The interex

And arguably the illuminati

And Isha's followers.

>>55111216
Napalm shotgun slugs ARE a good itea.

Hunting with them is not.

>>55111301
They may be around, but can the common man actually carry one without being accosted by arbiters?
Every ork is free to carry a sawn-off punt-gun if he sees fit, even grots are allowed to keep unwanted shitty guns as far as I know.

>>55110523

The good guys can be bad people.

>>55111320
Oh and I forgot.

The jokero and hrud

>>55111365
Arbites only enforce imperial laws. Imperial laws literally don't care about what individuals do as long as they worship the emperor and don't harbor xenos. Now whether the local authorities care is an entirely different story, but considering they have many tens of thousands of planets that all run under different local governments, a very, very significant portion of humanity is free to carry whatever they can actually get their hands on.

>>55110304
Daily reminder that Tau as a species are objectively worse soldiers than humans.

>>55110304
Reminder that brainwashed imperium fags keep spouting the "m-muh sterilizing" meme whenever they're reminded that the T'au empire treats human much better than the Imperium. Makes their /hfy/-loving little brains short circuit.

>>55111436
Fuck you, I'm not having this argument again.

>>55111489
They are bad soldiers, orks eldar and even humans are better soldiers than the tau

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>>55110321
>tau, a heavily stratified is communist
>meanwhile, the imperium has regiments of soldiers based on soviet russia, and undoubtedly has communist planets that are abided in it's midst isn't
how can imperialfags be this fucking braindead

>>55111530
>random farmboy with a lasgun
>better than a soldier bred for combat and trained constanty

try again.

>>55111320
Not really good, just less evil than the others in regards to the interex and the illuminati.

>>55111596
The IoM is a fedual system though.

>>55110304
To be a human that submitted themselves to the T'au is to be the ultimate cuckold

>>55111602
Naked human soldier vs naked fire-warrior

Human wins 9 times out of 10

>>55111216

Orks are for the /k/ers who are consumerist retards and want to own every single gun because LMAO AMERICAN HELL YEAH FREEDOM WEEEEEEEEEEEEEW.

I.E. retards like was said.

Though, I will admit, I find Ivan stories pretty funny. I think the Tau would like the AK platform since it's reliable and flexible.

>>55111602
>soldier with an average lifespan of 30-40 years
>better than the human with centuries of experience

>>55111612
as long as a planet pays it's tithes and stays loyal the iom couldn't give less of a fuck how left or right your governor is

>>55110831
>a legitimate use for a tank since the Siege of Grozny.
Please elaborate

>>55111648
That last 1 though is because the Tau was female and fucked into paste and he died from blood loss once her burrowed through her and started fucking the floor.

>>55111616

What is more cucked: to be helped and given what you need or want and all that is required is allegiance and minimal servitude or to have none of that, be treated like shit, and then still have more requirements for loyalty?

I assume you're an American that is also against all forms of socialism.

Puny Tau empire are cowards. Not only do they have frail, fleshy claws, they do not even use them! They fire pathetic, smooth slug and liquid plasma ammunition from their pathetic weaponry, and they even limit radiation exposure from their arms, likely in a tyrannical attempt to deprive their subjugated slavemeat from glorious and nutritional radiation.

Join Rak'gol army today, and receive all the blades and radiation you could ever desire!

>>55111596
How do Tau players know this little about the lore?

>>55111677
>cucked
KYS

>>55111677
Humans are literally cannon fodder to the tau.

They are like the eldar but pretend to be nice to you

>>55111677
>he thinks socialism works with imperfect humans

In a perfect world, murder wouldn't need to be illegal. But you know, I guess you're a dumb American if you are against rape and murder.

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>>55111682
>IoMfags deny the existence of two whole regiments of imperial guard to fit their delusional view of their jerkoff fantasy faction

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>>55111530
>not mentioning best soldiers in the galaxy

>>55111693

He used "cuckold." I'm only speaking his retard language.

>>55111698

That is wrong. You're a moron.

>>55111705

You're also a moron. Socialism isn't perfect and doesn't claim to be.

>>55111708
That's not a jokero

But they are the best major race

>>55111707
What, are you talking about the Voystroyan firstborn? The regiment that, despite sharing asthetics, are not in fact communist?

>>55111717
There's no point in supporting an impossible pipe dream. Being "against" socialism is no different than locking your car and house door.

>>55111717
They can't even join a caste.

They are basically peons, like any other Xenos empire that joins the tau.

Sure it might seem nice but you can't progress

>>55111667
Just like the king doesn't really care how the lord handles his people, so long as he pays his tithe.

>>55111707
>valhalla has a soviet theme therefor it is communist
Seems like a communist society wouldn't survive long in the imperium as it would require a religion which is a no go with communism which a heavily athiest ideology.

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>>55110304
Anything that isn't Imperial Propaganda is heresy, and all heretics are to be discarded immediately.

>>55111728
>vostroyan firstborn
>communist aesthetics

wat

>>55111708
Necrons suck. They're only benefit it that they're tanky as hell.

>Caste system and Authoritarian
>Communist
:thinking

>>55111822
They are s4 t4 that's a space marine

>>55111836
Also Bs3 and Ws3.

So yeah, SM. Who resurrects. And has a much better gun.

>>55111602
This has been done to death, but to reiterate.

>Tau trained for war from birth.
>Given gyro-stabilized weapons and helmets with aim assist
>Put through combat simulations constantly
Fire Warrior. 4+ ballistic skill, 5+ weapon skill

>Human trained for war from birth
>Given hellgun with iron sight and a photo-visor
>Trained in war games
Tempestus Scion. 3+ Ballistic Skill, 4+ Weapon Skill

When the Imperium puts in a similiar amount of effort into making soldiers, their soldiers are objectively superior to the Tau, even when the Tau use Aim Assist.

>>55111436
Pound for pound, a Fire Warrior is a better soldier than a Guardsman. Possibly not a Scion, before you start factoring in battlesuits anyway.

>>55111831
Welcome to Stellaris.

>>55111951
>Crunch vs Fluff
Tau BS is balanced around MLs

>>55111951
That's discounting the fact that fire warriors are more like space marines then the tempest scions.

>>55111671
See, when in the other thread they were talking about cringy edgelords? This here is a prime example.

>>55111951
Not to mention that Tau had I2 when that was a thing, so literally getting blasted by conscripts in melee if not for better armour save, and then not even.

>>55111663
Space Marines are human in name only.

>>55111698

Maybe try reading the lore instead of getting your info from circlejerking and memes.

>>55112012
Don't worry any guardsman that lays with a xeno is shot

>>55112006
And IG BS is balanced around orders.

>>55112034
In the most extreme circumstances a guardsman can become an inquisitor.

In the most extreme circumstances a Gue'vesa will always be a Gue'vesa

>>55112008
Tau are nothing like space marines, they die in droves

Unless you mean that the creation process is similiar (Automated systems, gene tampering, etc)

>>55112049
Not really, Orders isn't accuracy modulation ripped from the fluff

>>55112036
What if it's to show the filthy xenos dominance of the human species?

>>55112115
[ordo xenos]

Nope

>imperial thought for the day: ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise

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>>55112108
But it's shooting a whole lot.

Truly humans are amazing, able to squeeze out that much more firepower because some guy told them to, or the ability to render the enemy's cover useless, again because a guy told them to.

How can Tau even compete?

>>55112006
If you have to use special helmets to hit as well as a veteran human, you're not superior soldiers, you just have fancier toys.

>>55112073
>Tau are nothing like space marines, they die in droves
And marines don't? Basically any official artwork that wants to puff up a faction will have them slaughtering smurfs.

>>55111744

You're right. We should all fling ourselves into a volcano because lol nothing will ever change dang

>>55110304
I fucking hate that comma. It's Tau, not T'au. That makes it read and look wrong. There should not be a pause after the T, that makes it two syllables and thus sounds stuttered.

>>55111780
You don't know shit about Communism do you? It's not remotely incompatible with religion.

Inb4 hurr durr opiate of the masses

>>55111951
By your logic Space Marines are a fucking waste and the Emperor should've just recruited more mundane humans and given them better armour.

Crunch =/= Fluff

>>55112073
I think he means in their general culture and morals. Despite their more practical approach, Fire Warriors are all about that MUH HONOR warrior shtick instead of a more professional soldier deal.

>>55112290
Apostrophe.

>>55112319
Nah it was due to the training similarities, and the fact that they are the fighting force of the two factions

>>55111596
>>55111682
idk where everyone got the idea that they are communist?
They are based of India and Hinduism.
"The Greater Good." is a direct reference to Hinduism.
The Caste system is clearly pulled from Hindi Caste system even has the exact same tiers.

>>55112361
>idk where everyone got the idea that they are communist?
American """education"""

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>>55112302
>guy who invents communism literally says it's incompatible
>was brought up by the very group that the valhallans are based on leading to more proof as to them not being communist
>d-don't bring this up because I don't have an argument to stand on if you do

>>55112361

Americans think any form of unselfishness is communism and must be eradicated. The Imperium also sells bootstraps, citizen. Get to pulling for the Emperor. Also *BLAM*

>>55112403
The opiate of the masses quote doesn't mean what you think it means at all.

Also Marx's teachings have been built open and reworked massively in Communist theory, no modern far-leftist is actually preaching directly from fucking Capital.

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>>55110304
Daily reminder that Taucucks are going to get stomped by Death Guard chads.

>>55112313
Not that anon, but yeah, I've always thought that's pretty much true due to the outrageous expense that goes into making a whole million Marines, designing all their thousand types of unique expensive wargear and wasting thousands of people on trials just to get a few better soldiers out of it. A million Marines is a miniscule number to deal with the whole galaxy, and for the cost of that you could probably stick a few extra Guard Companies on every planet and kill that one Marine per world with meltaguns. It's not like you really need Marines for the surgical strikes they always do, takes very little of a Chapter's absurd resources to drop in some Termies and stab some guys, and you could do that with Scions.

I know the lore loves to wank them all the time, but given what we know about killing Marines (AKA: heavy weapons do it just fine) they're really not worthwhile.

>>55112488
>Mortarion salty that he lost Kronus so he swings by the Tau's homeworlds to get a consolation prize
Hahaha what a fucking sore loser.

>>55112488
>5 fire warriors and a handful of drones
wow what an intense fight right there, way to got Morty

>>55112488

>unseen: the remainder of the Tau army about to blast the DG to diseased smithereens

>>55112487
Are you saying the imperial cult doesn't directly have the same effect of propagating the inherent class issues of the imperium and is being used as both the higher class as a means to solidify power and by the lower class to find peace in their meaningless lives?

If I've jerked it to t'au porn, does that make me a heretic?

>>55112555
[ordo xenos]

Yes

>Imperial thought for the day: a broad mind lacks focus

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>>55112555
If you need to jack it to a xeno at least pick one with breasts like the eldar.

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>>55112531
>Implying their guns haven't already rusted to scrap as daemonic plagues annihilate their puny civilization

>>55111063
>>55111134
yeah Or/k/s are by far the most /k/ faction. Not in the sense that they are the best representation of a modern militrary, or because they are full of oper8ors like the ones /k/ worships and aspires to be. They are the most /k/ faction because they are a wild chaotic mess of guns, cosplay, infighting, and ramshackle semi retarded equipment that are exactly what /k/ meetups are like.

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Daily reminder that all the lore on the Tyranids is imperium records and they won't admit that the imperium know next to nothing about the Tyranid threat as a whole.

>>55112607
Tau armour and weapons aren't metal.

>>55112540
I'm not the anon that thinks a Communist society in The Imperium would ever function, it wouldn't, that's retarded.

I just think you have a shitpoor understanding of Communism. Some highschool textbook level stuff.

>>55112607
>Mortarion
>Not jobbing
lol

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>>55111320
>the interex

Ih im sorry are you talking about that literal who society that got all of 20 pages discussing it?

The only good thing about the T'au is there females who belong to human dicks.

drawfags still haven't made a lewd picture of the two só I can tweet thunder

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>>55112936
Forgot the pic

>>55111866
^this^

They have guard numbers too.
Best basic troop in the galaxy.
Too bad our specialists suck balls

>>55112488
As one dude once said: when the Tau are winning, they're way out of frame. You don't see it because MUH GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT, though.

>>55112595
Fanon T'au have tits at least. I swear every damn picture of Shadowsun gives her 36DDs.

>>55112827
How is that relevant as to how good or bad they were morally?

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>>55112165
Victory is assured, if only a really big guy tells them to.

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Jesus, /tg/ and /k/ clearly doesn't translate.

>>55113599

Unless FARSIGHTU-SAMA

>>55113744
Different strands of personal issues

>>55114245
I dunno. I'm a cross poster from /k/, and I've never had many problems with /tg/.

I don't know much outside of the Eldar. Why do people like Tau so much, and why do people like Imperial Guard so much?

>>55114437

People like Tau because let's face it, mech suits are cool as shit, and Pulse Rifles are pretty much among somd of the best basic infantry weapons in the game.

Imperial Guard is fairly popular because they have some of the best, most versatile tanks in the whole game -at least for their price-, and can be deadly when fielded en masse and given orders. They're also normal humans, which helps. There's also a good degree of potential for making personal touches to your army too.

>>55114539
Interesting. Tau sound pretty nice. What do people like about the lore of the two, and how much room for Your Dudes with Tau?

>>55114437
>>55114596
Being somewhat vaguely good/optimistic, relative to 40k factions. Evil in any other universe, which is what makes Tau such a nice addition. The good guy of 40k is the villain of any other universe.

A bit of your dudes, fluff up your own <Sept> or headcannon stuff for a minor <Sept> or renegades group (Enclaves)

>>55114596

Well, they both have a reputation for being underdogs within the setting. The Tau are a fairly young, small, but technologically advanced race that are basically the only thing 40k has that would qualify as 'good guys' within the setting. They're masters of long ranged warfare, with some of the longest ranges for normal infantry weapons at their disposal.

The Imperial Guard, on the other hand, have basically been around since the Imperium was formed, if you count the Imperial Army. The Imperial Guard is comprised of normal humans as soldiers, which makes it all the more satisfying when they win against foes that are drastically more powerful than them, at least on a one on one basis. The Guard's main strengths are typically numbers and how good their vehicles are.

As for the 'Your Dudes' potential with Tau, you could probably make a nice paint scheme for your own Tau sept, or even have some custom human models count as Fire Warriors. The Tau tend to have a lot of human auxiliaries, often times Guardsmen who deserted their units, or humans from Tau aligned worlds.

>>55114693
>Implying Harlequins aren't the real good guys
>Implying the Cult of David Bowie aren't optimistic

Still, I like the idea of a caste-based, highly propagandistic dystopia being the most benevolent setting. The "least of many evils", so to speak. What are some interesting starting builds? I like the design of Ghostkeels.

>>55110304
No one gets how awesome the jokero are.

>the good guys
>the most technologically advanced race
>no warp based ftl
>no jail can hold me!
>space ape families

They are up there with the hrud.

>>55114780

As a Guard player, I will hate you forever if you use Ghostkeels.

Basically, theres a setup for them which reduces enemy ballistic skill by 3 when being shot at. This means that my Guardsmen cannot hit it. Even my Commanders only hit on sixes.

>>55114780
No the harlequins are one of the good guys.
Along with the interex, illuminati, jokero, hrud and probably something I'm forgetting

>>55113599
>Implying that isn't all that's left of their army after the first wave of supernatural, virulent, medically-uncurable plague swept through that world.

>>55114596
Word of warning:
If you play Tau, people will hate you. They will not stop hating you until GW learns how to write them properly.

>>55114883
Yea even the space monkey engineers are better written then the tau.

I wish I was joking.

>>55114786
>>the good guys
They aren't good so much as true neutral

Like the time they turned a space station into a ship, just because. But the station kept a nearby world from being burned up by the sun.

>>55114810
The Inquisition obviously.

>>55114908
They where improving it.


They just are a bit daft sometimes.

Think of what the other races would have done to the space station.

>>55114930
They still doomed an entire world for the keks.

>>55114883
Most people at my LGS ignore lore outside of Space Marines.

>>55114807
That sounds amazing. I like Ghostkeels even more now.

>>55114928
They are trying to help.

It's just that they are going about it in the wrong way.

It just depends on if you judge on intent or action.

>>55114780
SC boxes as usual, build up as you go.

>>55114810
>interex
Barely any fluff and long since exterminated
>illuminati
dunno
>jokero
Inquisition pet xenos for the humour
>hrud
Irrelevancy aside, projects a field of age the shit out of things causing rapid decay of anything nearby

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>>55114946

>ANGRY LASGUN NOISES

>>55114959
To be far most of those are either trying to help(illuminati) or are doing nothing(jokero, interex, hrud)

Not actively hurting anyone is pretty dang good for 40k

>>55115005
Doing nothing cause you've been dead for 10k years isn't praise able.
Doing nothing that still causes things nearby to age to death isn't really great either.
Guess the monkeys you might be right about

>>55115026
Getting mad about the hruds field is like getting mad at a fighting ork.

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>>55114953
>It's just that they are going about it in the wrong way.

>>55110703
Oh shit you've used one? Where did you get it? I'd like to get one myself.

>>55114959
So how should I set up the Crisis Suits when I get them? They have way more options than I'm used to. Also, should I get a Ghostkeel right away?

>>55115072
The thing about /k/ is that half of them would want the lasgun and half would want something like a bolter

>>55115097
Best bet is to magnetize things so you can swap easily, assuming you're experienced and big on WYSIWYG.
No one is stopping you from getting a Keel, better to buy what you like than WAAC shopping list.
Balance will probably change a fair bit with the codex so don't do anything stupid and like buy 7 commanders.

>>55115147
I'm very slightly experienced, but I haven't magnetized anything before. Would a list primarily consisting of Crisis Suits and Ghostkeels be viable in a meta full of Space Marines (I've seen every chapter but Raven Guard, Blood Angels, and Ultramarines)?

>>55115174
Crisis suits are a bit mediocre right now, so suit spam won't be crushing too much. But it depends on how WAAC everyone wants to be

>>55115213
That's a shame. Are Stealth Suits any good right now? Right now I'm looking at Ghostkeels + Pathfinder support.

>>55114897
What's so bad about it?

>>55115281
Stealths are pretty solid

40k lore thread

Devolves into a 40k rules thread.

Huh

Now, wait
>>>/k/35006140

>>55115358
That's good to hear. Nice looking models, and cheap too. How many squads should I get?

>>55115373
Start with one, then see how you feel. I'm not going to tell you to buy a lot of shit at once.
I'm a paced out buyer.

>>55115390
Alright. Thanks for the advice!

>>55115370
First two posts about orks.

Looks like orks it is

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>>55115098
>Not wanting a plasmagun

>>55115416
"Gets hot"

Lasguns are basically the best gun ever

Bolters have that nice high damage/ap ratio

My wet dream would be a staff of light but whatever

>>55112436
>voting to steal and redistribute other people's property how you see fit makes one unselfish
Wew!

>>55110304
>Tauposting on an Imperial Board

>>55115793
all of 4chan belongs to the weebs

>>55115370
Looks like they want pulse rifles

>>55115465

Personally I'd want a meltagun, for that added dose of "fuck you *and* the entire trailer you live in."

>>55115745

>hoarding things whilst others suffer and die is okay

That's a hanging.

>>55114883
Writing quality has very little to do with the hate Tau get, and in the measure it does it's still entirely disproportionate. Half the playerbase's answer to "what don't you like about Tau fluff" boils down to "they don't get on their knees and start sucking when Space Marines walk in".

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>>55117765
Despite the government using nearly half of its spendings of some sort of entitlements program the poverty rate has more or less flatlined.

If "social programs" can eliminate poverty, the question remains:

When?

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>>55117765
>>55121169
Furthermore, with all of this runaway spending the US has reached Debt:GDP numbers only seen during World War 2. And that was money spent to organize and fight the largest and most destructive war in history.

Currently the US government is spending similar amounts of money just to keep the lights on.

>>55110703
>>55110792
>>55110831
>>55111063
>tfw actually from /k/ and find all of this terribly amusing.

>>55111134
>literally no military structure
blood axes

the fact that they don't really understand military structure or standards and just try and imitate it is an important similarity

>>55111596
>has communist planets that are abided in it's midst isn't
So? Does the fact that some hippies in Washington still live on communes make that state, or America itself, an actual communist nation? Of course not, because out of the millions of people that make up America, they're just a small portion.

>>55111682
>How do Tau players know this little about the lore?
Because if they did, they wouldn't be Tau fans.

>>55121206
I bet the debt:GDP ratio would be a lot more reasonable if we stopped giving endless tax cuts to the rich, but what would I know about such things?

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>>55121368
Unlikely considering that the rich already pay the lion's share of the governments tax income. A better solution would to not spend insane amounts of money on a totally unsustainable and ineffective system.

>>55121466
Are you seriously arguing that making the people with more money pay more won't make the national debt go down because they're already the source of most of the income?

>>55121545
No I'm saying that the hole is being dug faster than it can possibly be filled. France for example has taxes as high as 75% and their debt:GDP is only 10 points lower than the US.

>>55121545
Social Security in the US is totally unsustainable. The system could work back in the 50's and 60's when there were ~10 tax payers for every pensioner, but now its closer to 2-3 tax payers for every pensioner.

And now with the boomers retiring, combined with lower fertility rates, means that there will be a huge surge of new pensioners without enough taxpayers to support them. So to pick up the slack the government needs to take out massive loans

And that's the fatal flaw of the system. It was made for a time when people would have 3-4 kids, instead of 1-2.

>>55121649
France also has a completely different economic context than the US and you couldn't have cherrypicked a more suitable example for your argument if your tried. Germany or Nordic countries have the same expansive social programs in place and a much better control over their debt.

Great plot twists, thread

>>55122107
The IMF says that Germany's Debt:GDP is at 82%, the UK at 85%, and France at 90%. All seem to be in the same ballpark to me.

Sweden has fewer people than major cities