>that will be £45/$70/€60/AU$120/NZ$148 plus shipping please

>>54985407
Do...do you actually think this is a lot of money? You can't just drop $100 whenever you feel like it?
Sucks to suck poorfag. Go wait for food stamps or something. Can you only get on the web at fucking Starbucks?

>>54985432

I'm an Actuary thank you, I could comfortably buy these two miniatures.

Enjoy your consumer experience.

>>54985407
Wait is that $70 burger tokens each? Holy shit this company is being held afloat by old nerds with nothing else to, it's rediculous

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>>54985432
>2017
>Economy is going down the shitter in every first world country on the planet
>Jobs literally do not exist for anyone under the age 25 unless it's dead-end service industry work that pays below-poverty wages
>Entitled basement-dwelling pricks who spend all day on the computer that their parents pay for still have the mental-retardation to feel good about poor-shaming people.

Please withdraw from civilized society forever, thanks.

>>54985561
>jobs don't exist
Bullshit, go out and do an honest day's work.

>>54985561
>muh economic downturn
Go learn a useful skill, loser.

>>54985561
>Jobs literally do not exist for anyone under the age 25 unless it's dead-end service industry work that pays below-poverty wages

There's plenty of jobs available anon. You just have to be very good, since there's tons of other people that want the same job.

For the internships in law firms I want in the UK, there's about 1200 applicants for 20 places every year. I haven't gotten there yet, but I' still hopeful. And if I don't manage, I'll just try elsewhere, in another country.

>>54985561
You autists are just too stupid to move somewhere with jobs, where I live they're installing fucking air conditioning on to factory floors to attract line workers because they need them so badly

>>54985590
Unless you're working with your hands you're not doing honest work. And good luck finding a job that isn't some bullshit admin or service shit.

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>>54985590
>>54985591
>>54985626

>muh bootstraps

You are playing the game of multinational corporations. A couple will "win" and bemoan the rest, but we all lose.

Again, GW prices single models high since most players only buy 1 (most players being the cunts who leave mouldlines on, don't paint their figs and cover them in plastic glue, also build them wrong)

Since they'll only buy 1 they charge more which is shit for hobbyists who want to use them for conversions/bits

>>54985646
Then be the few. I'm lucky enough to have been born in the few thanks to my parents hard work, but I don't intend to do fuck all and let opportunities pass by. Hence why I studied law and not something that wouldn't open any doors.

>>54985641
But anon, surely you do realise that typing out bullshit busines analytics is done with your hands, right?

>>54985641
>Office workers are all EVUHL
Bloody hope living in your black and white world helps you cope with failure anon. It's just sad otherwise.

>>54985694
I never said that, I said it's dishonest work, as in it's meaningless rubbish where you don't get to see the fruit of your labours.

>>54985718
But I work in a lab, I use my hands on a daily basis, does that count?

>>54985718
I'd tend to disagree. I like spending months preparing a huge M&A, closing it, and knowing that this new massive company is the fruit of countless hours of work on my part to make sure it all happens smoothly.

>>54985732
Yeah I guess. Working with your hands doesn't mean menial labour.

>>54985718

That's a very limited worldview. Unless you want to go back to some kind of barter-based society, you need an infrastructure of "facilitators" for all the labourers.

>>54985590
As someone who's a manager at one of anon's "dead-end service industry jobs", I can tell you the young people working under me do more "honest days work" and put up with more of the absolute shittiest shit of humanity than most people in a "real" job ever will.

>>54985718
The world needs cogs, unless there is a new plague there will always be a need for people behind the scenes to make these large organisations work.
Sadly we don't live in a world where everyone has a plot of land and provides for themself with said land.

>>54985757
Let me guess, retail?

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>>54985769

Not him, but a year in retail should be mandatory, especially in the US, I've seen people being an asshole to kids on $5/hr because they don't have Pumpkin Pie Oreos on the shelves.

>>54985769
Yeah, I live in a shit town where the biggest employer in the area is Walmart, unfortunately. Moving away isn't really an option for some of the people here, it takes a good safety net to pack up everything you have, move to a new area, and hope to be able to find a job and set yourself up there. Especially with kids or a family. Alot of the people not in management positions are just scraping by paycheck to paycheck... it's disheartening when the only advice anyone ever gives them is "BOOTSTRAPS! BOOTSTRAPS! BOOTSTRAPS!" from people who have never in been their situation.

Yes I hate the corporation I work for, even though I'm in a management position there.

>>54985816
Agreed, did 3 years of it. Sure it made me hate people but also makes me bring stock foward whenever I take something of a shelf and not be a cunt to people behind tills.

>>54985816
>>54985825
Americans have...special way of envisioning clients relationships though. The entitlement is real.

>>54985543
35$ each.
Still a silly amount of money for a single model, especially models that only have the most minor customizations.

>>54985880
It works like this
>Bosses want money
>Because bosses want money, they tell their employees to bend over backwards to suck clients' dicks
>Employees do this because money to feed the family is more important than self-respect or dignity, and even mediocre jobs are a rare commodity that could take months to get if you're lucky
>Something happens where the employee literally cannot suck off the client hard enough, such as an item being out of stock
>Customer complains
>Boss fires the employee over it
>Employee gets told "Pull yourself up by the bootstraps, you lazy piece of shit" by society as a whole.

>>54985825

The mad thing is that a proportion of those Walmart-employed families will be on government benefits to make up for their small incomes, which are raised by taxes on other people. And yet people get angry at "welfare queens" and not the corporations.

It's almost impressive how they've got the working class constantly fighting against itself in the US.

>>54985561
>be under 25
>work in the service industry
>can still afford a modest army along with bills
I think you just suck at saving money anon.

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>>54985407
>dat chaplain
Where is his hat?

>>54985468
Most people could dipshit, $35 a pop for a toy is nothing. The fact that you apparently think it's expensive enough to comment on is telling though.

>>54985407
>Are the only people left playing GW games the most braindead and spoonfed?
>playing
Implying I'm buying these models and not using the models I collected over the past 8 years.

I did buy some hellblasters on eBay, I got 5 models for £10. Pretty good deal.

>>54985432
>"I make 1 billion/year, that's why I use banknotes to clean my ass
Being rich doesn't mean being wasteful. Actual rich people are often very conservative on how and why they spend their money (that's why they got rich in the first place, often). 2 monopose guys made from Chinese plastic don't deserve that much money

>>54985626
where i live they installed fucking air conditioning on factory floors 70 years ago. thanks for your input from a third-world shithole that thinks it's finally getting somewhere, though.

>>54991372
No, rich people just find ways to write off the money. Leasing a Jaguar and having $200 sushi lunches isn't frugal, but they don't have to pay for it because the company does.

t. the guy who records business expenses

>>54991686
Basically this actual rich people do not pay for their stuff

>>54985407

>Not buying from based ebay resellers

>Not buying from chinaman or easterneuropeman

>Giving GW your money

>>54991950
>not playing a better game
>advertising and indirectly supporting GW's games
>thinks he's somehow sticking it to GW

If you really wanted to hurt GW you would buy and play a competitors product. Just because you buy Coca-Cola from a non-Coca-Cola retailer and wear Coca-Cola shirts all day doesn't mean you've somehow outsmarted Coca-Cola.

Yeah space marines used to $.50 or whatever 30 years ago and people treated them like it too. Video games took the segment of the player base that preferred play over the hobby aspect and they aren't coming back, prices adjusted to match the investment people were interested in putting into their pieces.

Why not go ask /o/ why people spend huge money on classic cars when they could get something safer, better mileage, and cheaper to maintain for a lot less effort?

>>54992059
The old car comparison does not work with GW products, since the newer kits seem to have less hobby aspect

>>54985407
Well they obviously come painted at that price no?

>>54992100

Really? Shit have you seen how much the converting crowd uses ad mech bits?

>>54992059
I saw a spotless 1970 Camaro SS in blue with dark blue racing stripes and what looked like completely new chrome and exhaust and everything. It looked and sounded so fucking amazing, and I am a 100% JDM guy. I mean I'd never buy a muscle car and I probably would never restore even the old classic JDM cars I love, but I still think that guy got his money's worth. I'd probably spend the money on high performance parts or trying to upgrade into a Porsche or GT-R instead. A lot of old cars have excellent curves and aesthetics that still hold up to modern design standards were it not for dead giveaways like chrome fenders or outdated badges or taillight designs, especially muscle cars.

>tfw used to get 20 infantry and a character for less than one plastic character
>you could actually start an army for less.

>>54992456
You used to get a lot more of everything for less back then. Inflation going faster than wage increases is total bullshit. Doesn't help that GW does price hikes along the way too. But comparing £20 or $20 from the 80s to the same amount in 2017 is kinda dumb ffaamm. The start collecting boxes probably have decent value if inflation is accounted for.

>>54992506
>thinks im talking about inflation
>thinks im talking about the 80s
This was the early 00s
Shut up idiot.

>>54985561
Im 25 and i have a well paid career.
...at GW head office no less

>>54992808
Shut up, Duncan.

>>54992556
>thinks there was no inflation from 2000 to 2017
>thinks two decades ago is recent

>>54992808
Y-you guys looking to hire a new writer, maybe...?

>>54992939
>GW studio painters
>well paid

>>54985561
Have never been out of a job since turning 17. 26 now and making a 6 figure salary, wtf is wrong with you?

>>54985407
>12$ from china

>>54993165
>says a thing

I don't believe you

>says thing again

>>54985407
Jokes on you, I use alternative miniatures for Cadian Shock trooper that are twice as expensive as GWs while having a worse quality out of the box.

>>54993259
Sweet forgeworld army man.

>>54985561
Those who dont work dont eat. Also buying used/recasting for personal use are things.

>>54992961
>two decades ago
>the same pricing existed up to late 00s
Anon you are retarded stop.

>>54985934
That one models costs more than:
10 lesser daemons
10 kabalites
10 wyches

>>54992506
It would make sense if prices followed a logical pattern.
>HQ are expensive since they are a one time purches.
Fine
>shit like DCA cost as much as an HQ but you need like 5 set of those to make a single unit.
>who the fuck price the GSC stuff? You need hordes of this bastard and their priced like those so called one time purches
>let's not even start with decades old products costing more than newer stuff.

In other words te prices do not make sense from a consumer stand point

>>54993531
Not sure if trolling, shilling or just does not understand basic economics

>>54995091
Anon you are fucking retarded. You have no clue what you are talking about because you are a teenager. Stop with the damage control you ignorant little cunt.
For starters two decades is twenty years its 2017. Inflation does not explain the price increase in the last ten years which is where the change has occured.

>>54995232
The consumer index does and it is tie to it.
We can make this simple and use the "Big Mac" or "hour work" shit I can buy with said "work hour" unlike what you college students think the economy is not simple because it has fucking retarded humans in it. That do retarded shit like buying retarded overpriced crap just because they can

>>54985816
>I've seen people being an asshole to kids on $5/hr
I don't doubt that but how the hell do they get paid $5/hr when the federal min wage is $7.25?

>>54995302
>tips
>but they don't get tips!
>well they should work harder for those then!
America has a strange way to avoid paying for workers directly

t. Third world business trying to start something in America, it just felt wrong being this level of asshole towards workers

>>54995232
>implying it's the same person
>implying you're not so dumb you don't realize inflation makes 200X's models cheaper than 200X+1's models even if the price stayed the same

>>54993653
Yup. Given that a squad of primaris intercessors is 60$/10 dudes, that's 6$/model for new space marines. So these guys are almost 6 times as expensive than regular marines, but have specialized battlefield roles and are keyword characters. Are they 6 times as important to your army? Are they 6 times as valuable as a model or on the table top? Probably not. Hence, why the pricing is silly.

>>54985407

These are literally $15~ each which is expensive as fuck right now from multiple sources located in Asia lol

>>54995302
Because there a number of loopholes that exist to be exploited.

Tips, for example. Projected Tips are accounted for for a minimum wage paycheck, but most do not receive anywhere close to minimum wage in a week because of how tips get distributed.(the house often taking upwards of 50% of tips before they go to employees.)

When you don't tip, be it for being a greedy fuck, or for some "fight the system" reason, you are not hurting the business (nor system) at all, just hurting the employees who are trapped in the bullshit.

>>54992053

I've always liked 40k and the now dead Fantasy but in decades of hobby I have never ever bought a single thing from a GW store or website

>>54985432
Whilst I believe that you need to financially support the things you enjoy - you're obviously a retard with wealthy parents.

>>54985615
>Law
Mate, you're in the worst situation. Unless you have friends who can get you a job look at something else. At best you're going to have to work your way from call centre bitch to lawyer over 10 years.

>>54985615
lmao and how do you have the money to move? trust fund UK boi

>>54991686
>>54991903
yeah sure OK CEOs and other big jobs like that get free travel and lunch. Literally every real rich person (so rich they don't work) is a complete frugal cunt with their money

source: was groundskeeper at a few super rich people's houses

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>>54985658
>law
>honest work
Also
>it's your problem, system is fine! Don't fight it, be a good goy and work yourself to death for two shekels a month, you will be rich soon, you will see.

>>54985407
Nah. A lot of people just use their old models / buy used models.

>>54999952
Eeeeh I'll manage. If not in a law firm right away, then in-house. I've done internships for a top 10 asset management company, was all right. Albeit a bit boring. Still, could be a decent stopgap before I panage to find something better.
But yeah, the legal world is a small one, and weirdly enough, you find tons of lawyer's children getting their training contract way more easily than others. But surely it's just a coincidence right? Oh well, that's life. I use my parents contacts as well when I can. Shame they don't work in law.

>>54999990
Not exactly trust fund, but at least I'm not English. Ew. I'm from accross the river my dear friend.

>>55000064
>income inequality spiked under Reagan

gee what a surprise, it's like 'small govt' claptrap is bullshit or something

>>55000064
Yeah but the US is fucked. Undeniably so. And I'll have you know, working in law can is actually pretty decent. The evil lawuers defending big ass corporations killing people are a very small minority. Where I want to work, we're glorified paper pushers and Googlers.
Not saying the system is right, far from it, but the US is a blatant overkill from the system. Interestingly, an anon from here once pointed out that

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>>54985407

Did you know a vintage Barbie doll costs around $100-$800... So its safe to say a hobby costs money no matter your take on it.
That is the reality of it. If you can't afford it, you are no longer a paying customer, and thus need not worry yourself about it.
If you feel you can get the same out of a cheaper manufacturer, then you should be happy with that and move along.
And if you like me, by the use of a simple budget can buy the miniatures that you want because you think its worth it, all is well.

There are not much outside of this that will give an effect. You can bitch and moan all you want to try and sway the opinion of others that don't mind paying money for the models they want, but in truth I don't think you will have that much luck.

Engaging a hobby is a privilege, not a right.

>>55000064
Can anyone explain why income inequality took such a dive before WW2, pretty please? That's interesting.

>>54985646
This graph is inaccurate. Well, it's accurate, but misleading.

The change in income hasn't kept up with productivity, but the change in compensation has. Turns out that health insurance is actually really fucking expensive.

>>54999067
jesus christ your country is run by a bunch of evil mongs

and anyone who decides to work as a waitress deserves 5 bucks an hour

>>55000102
Pointed that the US's riches repartition was more akin to Brazil than a 1st world country.*

>>54999067
>>54995362
If you make less than minimum wage, it is a federal crime to not make up the difference.

The IRS checks this. They check it because you pay your taxes on your income made, and if that's less than what you should be making, they get more money.

I know CPAs who do work with restaurants. Trust me, if the owner isn't making up the tips, he is going to get fucked over hard the second there's an audit. Has to pay back double what he owes, and possibly prison time.

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>>55000106
are you retarded or are you just trolling

>>55000145
>jesus christ your country is run by a bunch of evil corporatists that are now more in power than ever before thanks to Trump*
FTFY. And people were rejoicing and thinking it'd do some good to the people. The fact that some still support deregulations of the financial sector is so incredible it's not even funny anymore. They drive towards yet another wall and cheer along the way.

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>>55000115
ggggreat depression

>>55000115
Simple
There was no income to be unequally spread

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dam bubba i wish i was rich, i still wouldnt by any fuckin games workshop models tho

>>54985432
>$120AU is not a lot of money
In the grand scheme of things? Of course not.
For two fucking pieces of plastic that I would otherwise buy from a recaster for a fraction of that amount?
Of course it fucking is.

If they decreased the price, I might actually consider fucking purchasing legitimate models.
They can't still believe that somehow they wouldn't get additional business sufficient to offset the decreased profit margain from each unit by decreasing the price.

>>54985561

I don't know the situation in the US, but in Sweden there is a huge need for registered nurses which I am fortunate enough to be. So I can literally just pick and chose what I want, when I want it! A bonus as well is that our otherwise left-swing government has allowed for private firms within healthcare to make debut, which actually pays quite well!

Point is this, if you would have asked me 15 years ago if I thought Id be a male nurse, id be laughing in your face! I had never even thought about working with healthcare. But now, this is where the work is! As a bonus, its Swede's top 1 work for women... And Im talking some serious hotties!

>>55000170
I always find it so funny that the US tax system is so bloody aggressive and thorough, in the middle of all the other gvts agencies that seem to be lacking any strength.
The one institution that I alwyas hear not to fuck with is the Taxes. Not the cops, not drugs or employment, but bloody taxes.

>>55000178

>Stating simple facts
>anon can't comprehend it
>you must be retarded

Really now, this the best you got?

>>55000188
>>55000195

Oooooh yeah silly me.

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>>55000220
op never said anything relating to what you said.

clearly youve been holding this in for a while. are your expensive barbies and toy solders putting a strain on your marriage? there's a lawyer in this thread who might be able to help you

>>54985977
Class war when?

>>55000115
First inflation and great depression, but then mostly taxes. If your top margin for income tax is 92% then you can be sure nobody is going to actually earn that and the money are spent on investment, including salaries.

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>>55000315

OP specifically hinted that this hobby costs a lot of money.

I replied to that statement in exact. I said
>A. You ether afford it or you don't, and accept this reality.
>B. You find alternative cheaper models and stop complaining.
>C. You make due with what you got, if you think its worth the money, by the use of a budget.

In short.

>OP: This hobby is expensive, anyone disagreeing is stupid!
>Me: Consider the following....

Now tell me anon, how is this post not related to OP´s argument? And on a more serious note, where you born this stupid, or have you had a long time practicing?

>>55000211
It gets really bad when you consider 120 bucks is almost the amount of the big starter sets GW puts out now and you get two starters and two or more characters.
Their price model for individual characters is retarded.

>>54985407

I got to ask... Do people do this outside of the hobby?

Like go to work and complains about the cost of other, not necessary products such as cars and furniture?

Like, imagine going to IKEA, buy a couch and then rush home and trashtalk IKEA on the internet because its in you opinion "to expensive". Wouldn't you be deemed a fucking idiot for buying something you thought to expensive for your budget? Literally the only response you would get is a friendly nod (because of pity), and the suggestion that you could have bought a cheaper couch or not buy one at all since you already own one.

>>55000503
OP didn't say he bought them. So it's more like saying "Man, *insert car model* is way overpriced, you'd be an idiot to buy that when there are cheaper and often better alternatives."

>>55000533

Well your right. So what your saying is it would be even more stupid?

Like a guy complaining about the price on things he can't afford all the time. But really, who does this? If you don't have a goal to paint yourself out to be "that guy" who´s always short on cash.
Because if I think something is to expensive, I must have an interest in it. Otherwise I would simply let it pass right by, it simply doesn't make sense of me bitching about it if I have no real interest in it.

So in OP´s case, it doesn't look like he´s comparing anything, he simply states that GW is expensive and whoever buys it is an idiot.
This to me simply sounds like a grumpy old man, who really wants to get stuff, but can't afford it. Thus he flips the coin and changes the attitude to "If I can't enjoy it, nobody will".

Like, imagine having that "friend" who complains about your car. That you are an idiot for buying it and yada yada yada, when its obvious that he´s really just envious of you.
I could be wrong, but OP sure as hell is starting to look like that guy.

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>>55000102
Especially when your political caste looks like this.
They don't even hide that they shit on common people.

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>>55000140

>Turns out that health insurance is actually really fucking expensive.

Considering you guys already pay more in taxes on public healthcare than most other developed nations, it's an absolute scandal that you are then also expected to pay a corporation insurance premiums, or have them deducted from your wages by your employer.

And ultimately you generally end up receiving pretty average healthcare amongst other developed nations for it.

>>55000097
Income inequality is a literal non-issue, you should worry about how to help poorer people find work and succeed, not about the gap between the highest and lowest earners.

If you like "income equality" go to Venezuela or Zimbabwe where everyone is equally destitute

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>>55000798
This.
But if anybody proposes free health care he gets shouted at because >m-muh feelings and ebil gommunism
McCarthy died 61 years ago, but it turns out he's still well alive.

>>55000436
no he didn't you salty marsupial, he's mocking angry GW fans like yourself. Show me where OP said he plays 40k

your entire post is based off assumptions, and OP is a troll who clearly got your trangs dangled

>>55000436
see
>>55000533
Op said nothing about buying overpriced shitty models. lrn2 reading comprehension

>>55000837
>free
"Free" healthcarefag here, literally everyone who can afford it goes private, because single payer is shit.

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>>55000758
>>55000436
>>55000533

Fuck me, lot of assumption going on there lads. Like I said, I'm an Actuary, money isn't the issue. I'm not enough of a spastic to pay nearly £50 for two 40mm base plastic miniatures though.

>>55000825
>Zimbabwe and Venezuela
Zimbabwe has GINI of 50.5. It's a horrible inequality. Venezuela - 44.8. And that's only going by official statistics that, if Piketty is to believed, are about 5 points too low. Meanwhile Sweden has GINI 25.
It would be nice to know something about the shit you're blabbering about or you might look like an idiot.

>>55000874
I'm sure they do the same when they get cancer or something like that.
It's what capitalism does the best. Cash in on the easy and profitable and leave all the costs on the society. It's literally Walmart foodstamps practice in medicine.

>>55000861

So in your statement, OP simply complains about shit he has no real interest in?

Dude, stop being retarded.

>so many autistic grognard idiots ITT
The issue is when you compare their big box sets to the indvidual characters prices. Everything else ITT is irrelevant autism.
You can get two forces with characters for less than two individual characters. It looks bad and it is.
Everything else ITT is a retarded abomination.

>>55000906

So then you go with option B, and move along. Is it that hard? You obviously have some interest in GW, otherwise you wouldn't be complaining I take it.

I bitch and moan every day about my shit ass car, wishing it to be a brand spanking new sports car, because I have an actual interest in the latter. I don't like my current car, and I want a new one because its better. Had I no real intention of wanting a new car I would also loose my argument on as why I complain.

So my advice is strictly in line with GW´s own words. If you're a customer, you're a customer, if your not your not. Its really not harder than that.

>>55000909
>try to cash in on poorfags as you're twirling your moustache
>another health insurance company/hospital undercuts you
>prices are driven down and quality driven up just like any other good or service

>>55000948
Quality post
/sarcasm

>>55000968

>another health insurance company/hospital undercuts you
>prices are driven down and quality driven up just like any other good or service

Except the part where in reality it's an oligopoly with no interest in reducing rates to levels in comparable countries. You are already overpaying.

>>55000964

>why review films/books/video games, if you don't like it move along and let the goyim purchase it!

>>55001000
Quality argument
/sarcasm

>>54990746
This edgelord condescension from people that don't want to admit they're fucking mugs for shelling out that much money for little plastic toys is transparent and hilarious. You're free to spend your money on whatever you choose, but if you feel the need to attack other people for not sharing your perception of value, it just indicates that you're actually hugely insecure about your own financial status and/or personal choices.

> screeches poorfag some more in response.

>>54985432
Even for those of us who can afford it, the sense of value just isn't there anymore. US$35 for a single monopose plastic mini is nuts.

>>55001053
Better than yours.

>>55000077
That makes you even more of a cunt.

>>55000214
>immigrants keep stabbing and raping people so Sweden needs nurses to care for their victims

Well, that nice for you, it doesn't help people who don't live in shit countries.

>>55000182
>Trump in power for a couple of months
>Entirely at fault for the current state of the American economy

Holy fucking shit you just love putting it out there that you're retarded don't you Jesus fucking Christ what a fucking mongoloid

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>>55000906
>I'm not enough of a spastic to pay

This.

GWIDF likes to pull the "mansion flipping is an expensive hobby too, loser - maybe get a job" dodge, but plastic mans purchases don't take place in a vacuum (if only!). Adults with walking-around money, thinking about maybe picking up a dozen nice cigars or a couple bottles of decent scotch will see two 1in plastic toys and ask themselves if they're going to give that US$70 to GW instead. Short answer: No. Longer answer: Fuck, no.

:sips single-malt:

>>55001578
>adults
>drinking liquid devil

Pick one and only one.

>>55001476
>after a rocky road the car drives off the cliff
>in the middle of the fall some people are like "Jeebus Christ, it's not the cliffs fault, or drivers!"

>>55001578
People justify the purchase to themselves in the same way you justify the cigars.

>>54985407
Chaplain looks like he too sweets the most loyal marines

>>54985407
No, the only people left playing are the ones who bought into the game before $60 infantry characters were a thing you newfag casual. If you're only thinking about starting now then you're right to stay away because you're not wanted.

>>55000798
Well, fuck. And here I am in the UK where everyone bitches about NHS waiting times and all the medical peoples I work with and game with say there's some pretty heug staffing shortages beginning because Brexit. How bad must it be in the fucking US if we were this good four years ago in the middle of Toryland?

>>55001861

Aha, christ.

Yes, I'm sure the crowd that has been playing/putting up with 40k for ten years without moving on are amongst the most patrician, cerebral people in this hobby. Well done.

>>54992808
What do you make an hour? If it can beat my $85 an hour sunday doubletime I might consider

>>55002108

From what I know, GW's pay is is pretty average for similar UK office jobs, most of the people in admin roles and above at head office don't have a clue about "the hobby", it's just a job. Same for the technical staff in manufacturing.

However, in the jobs where they can hire "fans", pay is generally poor. So a lot of the retail roles up to middle management, the design studio, they get pretty embarrassing wages all things considered.

>>54985561
>Jobs literally do not exist for anyone under the age 25
Anyone under the age of 25 should be studying a useful career,not working.

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If I had a big black suitcase filled with loads of orcs and gobbos, giants, warbosses and they are mostly painted badly, I was a kid then. Would those figs have any value or are they trash.

Dont know where to ask, so I do it here.

>>55002170
Yeah, you can probably sell them in ebay. Don't expect much for them though.

>>55002194
Forgot to say I'm in EU, but cheers.

>>55002170

Badly painted, probably 40-50% retail max, less if assembly is bad.

Could always consider stripping them, that would add a bit of value back on. Depending on where you are in the world there's different products, ask in /wip/.

>>54985407
The only thing i disagree with is how hard Australians get fucked by GW. I wish i could walk into a store and pay UK or even US prices on my models but we just get fucked on because we are Australia

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>>55001578
>spending your money on wicked wicked poisons

>>55002170
Get yourself an ultrasonic cleaner, methylated spirits and an shit electric toothbrush, it'll cost you about £40 but you'll have them stripped in no time.

>>55002209
Its even more annoying considering it wasnt always like this. They just decided to jack up the prices one day.

>>54985561
Don't you have an Antifa riot to be at or something?

>>55001578
>I'm an adult because I drink and smoke
Could you be any more of a pathetic poser?

>>55002381
All companies do it to us but GW is paticularly bad for it. Our prices here for warhammer is fucking rediculous

>>55000336
It's less a class war, more an after effect of globalism. Multinationals have been spoiled by the low wages required by foreigners. So they try to drive down their labour overheads in more civilized countries as far as they legally can and then some.

There wouldn't need to be any class conflict if they stopped antagonizing the labourer. That only feed the socialists they so hate.

Eventually globalism will lead to it's own downfall as people will be too poor to afford the costs required for multinational shipping and feul costs and what have you.

>>55000336
>Class war
>Not wanting class cooperation within the corpus of the nation
>Not wanting to work with your fellow countrymen against the international financiers who feed on class conflict

Do you even fasces bro?

>>55001578
>drinking and smoking
>adult
Pick one

>>55001578
>drinking and smoking makes me an adult
No. You are unironically better off spending your cash on GW minis than that shit. Alcohol and tobacco are some of the worst things you can spend your cash on: they cost a lot of money for good stuff, they are consumables so you don't get long term use out of it once you drink/smoke it they're gone, they cloud the mind and make reasonable men into bumbling fools, they expedite one's demise, they increase one's weight and can bring about quite easily long term health problems that cost a great deal to cure.
There's nothing wrong with a glass every once in a while, but if you buy scotch with the same regularity you do minis, you have a major problem.
Don't fall for the liquid devil.

>Buying character models
>Not converting your own
>Buying primaris shit ever
This is your own fault OP

>>54985407

GW employee here.

We're brainwashed to counter price complaints with "It's a luxury hobby brand".

Do I do that? Fuck no.

How does GW justify the prices to its employees is another story. Equally funny, but a lot of the employees buy into the concept, which is NOT funny.

>>55004540

Still get 50% discount?

I have Kirby's little black book in a pdf somewhere. It's to Business Management what Dianetics is to Psychology.

>have multiple degrees including a post-grad
>bunch of relevant field-related experience
>could tutor literally 50+ courses at college, specializing in ESL and special needs
>work a wage-slave retail management job where they micro-manage me down to the minute
>talk to thousands of stupid fucking people a day while other people get paid more money to literally do half the job I do "because they've been there longer"
>I fucking had to show my boss how to set up group contacts in outlook, make spreadsheets, and how to not save things all over the desktop
>she's started training the other manager for expanded roles, despite the fact that I have objectively the best sales numbers in my store, which is top five in my country
>I mean seriously, I make no fucking money. I made more money doing security and fighting people all day, but at least "it's management experience"
I'm probably going to kill myself. At least I'm taking all my fucking cardboard and minis with me when I go.

>>55004773
That's ridiculous, what are your degree that your field is so fucked?

>>55004540
>>55004640
With a %50 discount GW prices are pretty reasonable. As a austarlian, I would kill to pay 50% less, since I'm usually paying 40% more.

>>54985561

>age 25
>make 50,000 Canuckbucks a year on a high school education
>plenty of disposable income for games despite living in one of the most expensive cities in the world

fucking apply yourself

>>55000064
To be fair, he didn't claim to be working for anyone but themselves and their kin. Lack of empathy for those who are not his people doesn't correlate at all with how much effort he puts in to his life.

It does mean we cannot trust him to do anything but act in his own interest. And his interests are well served by the extant systems.

>>55005347
Degrees.

Cultural studies with an emphasis in writing and narration, as well as political science with a specialization in political theory.

I also have a post graduate certificate in emergency management, that comes with twelve regionally verified certifications from the fire marshal and a certificate in business continuity from disaster recovery international, that was also objectively the hardest test I've ever written.

I'm really depressed about it actually. I'm either way over qualified or I lack experience. I literally works masonry after graduating because the fucking college stopped scheduling me the second I wasn't subsidized as a student. Every day I think about killing myself because I just can't handle it. I'm talked down to by fucking welfare bumpkins and I'm exposed to so many children and stupid parents that I'm terrified of having kids. I read 3 1000+ page books a week and wrote papers on them, yet Im treated like I'm functionally impaired because I have a shitty job. I've tried counciling and I've tried government programs for career assistance. The best I could get was a minimum wage security job where I had to deal with needles, meth heads and no hours. All because I'm young and worked hard.

I'm sure some teenager dickhead is going to laugh at me about it, but it's honestly fucked. If the world ended tomorrow I'd be so fucking happy.

>>55001124
Fucking this. It's not that I can't afford the hobby but it just doesn't feel worth what i spend anymore.

That's basically one of the reasons I started getting into Guild Ball.

>low model count
>average model costs about $10-15
>even the most expensive models are like $20-25 and that's only a small handful

The average person could start playing for maybe $100

>>55007211
>Canuckbucks
So about three fiddy?

>>55009577
>get shit degrees
>complain when you can't find a job

>>55009798
Bitch please. I suppose the 50 courses I tutored were all shit degrees too. I had a job lined up working as an exercise designer for a local municipality and my professor ghosted on me, after I designed 3k worth of practical exercises. Regardless, objectively I'm head and shoulders above the other sales people at my job in less time with added responsibilities. I'm more qualified for my managers job then she is,yet I'm stuck in purgatory based on my age.

>>54985561
>be 27
>own a house
>own 2 cars
>make $56k canadabux a year, pushing coffee on a train

Fuck you and your lazy attitude, shitfuck. It's your incessant prattle that's giving birth to entitled otherkin al over the world. Get your hands dirty and get a fucking job.

>>55001124
agreed. It is absurd that there are people still defending this bullshit...Guess they love the taste of GW cock too much...

>>55010098

If you can't find a job where your degrees are useful and considered then they are shit degrees. There is literally no discussion about it.

I have no idea of where you live but in my country basically the entire humanist department at university is a self devouring monster, where the only opportunity you have after you get a degree is to teach the same useless things to others that are going to replace you .

Nobody cares how smart and educated you are. Nobody cares about how many degree you have unless in a field directly correlated to those degrees. The point is that either you are able to do highly qualified work in a field that need more labourers or you don't matter.

>>55010274
It's hilarious that you think that's a good salary.

>>55010274
>I have three mortgages to pay for so I have to work like a chimp
Fixed.

>>55010098
>cultural studies and poly sci
>not shit degrees

>can't find a job
>not shit degrees
How many hours ypu studied or classes you tutored means fuck all if it's not in something worthwhile.
Why you would think fucking cultural studies with a focus on fucking writing is a skill that's in high demand is beyond me.

>>55010098
>Regardless, objectively I'm head and shoulders above the other sales people at my job in less time with added responsibilities. I'm more qualified for my managers job then she is,yet I'm stuck in purgatory based on my age.
Sure you are bitchboy. Do tell, what job does cultural studies, poly sci and emergency management make you more qualified for than your boss? Ambassador to a thrid world shithole?

The purpose of a degree is to educate you in a field that is in high demand and that requires extra education that can't reasonably be provided on job, like STEM or law. Those are good degrees, because they give you usable skills and are practically required to be able to get a good job in a field. But you're a retard who decided to get degrees that are either in very small markets or are practically useless in the real world, and then bitch about it online because you didn't bother to think about what the practical use of your degree is.
All the hard work in the world means nothing if it's work on something useless

>>55011040
>>55011160
I work 4 days, have 3 days off. I also have a secondary income coming in in the form of a wife with a comparable job.

I don't understand why you guys always have an answer. I have a mediocre job that more than fulfils my hobbies and comfortably pays all my bills, but there's no way that could be right; your plights must DEFINITELY be my plights as well.

Get a job you lazy fucks.

>>54985646

Do you think people are actually more productive now? Do you really think people work twice as hard as their grandparents?

It's called technology. The fact computers make industry more productive doesn't mean you deserve more money, you lazy commie.

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>>54985646
Get off my board you summerfag marxist orclover.

>>55012520
good goy, them corporations never do anything wrong

>>54985646

Also, wages are not indicative of quality of life. All of the money in the world in 1960 would not buy you a portable computer with access to a world-wide communications network and vast resources of information. How does inflation account for that?

>>55011040

It's hilarious that you think it's a bad salary.

>>55010640
>>55011737
>>55011637
>Hey guys, I was an incredibly motivated/bland 18 year old and LUCKED into a good field.
Now I get that you're all high and mighty because you happened to stumble into the right life choices, but your attitude is the problem.

Did you not read what he said he does? I mean, I understand that his degree isn't immediately applicable, but he doesn't sound like someone unmotivated or useless. He sounds like a dip who worked too hard in a silly subject, but there's no reason that isn't deserving of a reasonable career. Realistically, the hyper-subjectification of the individual relative to capitalism is the problem; if you don't have a quantifiable skill in terms of capital, it's not seen as useful. This leads to two types of people getting "jobs": manipulative sociopaths, and complete spergs.

For example, I work in a STEM field, and the petty interpersonal problems of intelligent, well paid people are absolutely insane. Human resource workers are basically glorified babysitters for horrible manchildren. Now, not everyone can preform complex STEM functions, but the same can be said for forming a coherent sentence. The reports from these mongoloids are baffling because incredibly intelligent people sound like fumbling morons over arbitrary bullshit, when you could easily pay someone to write the exact information better.

Then we get into the problem of why pay two people to do one person's job. Really, the only area to cut cost is staff, because expenses are often static outside of your employees, and a confidence based investing system requires unsustainable growth. The only reason you can hold yourselves highly is because of an incredibly unequal system of socialization, so instead of glorifying it like a bunch of tards, accept that other people have different skillsets, and that a real utilitarian would find something useful for everyone, it just makes sense both fiscally and structurally.

>>55002170
>mostly painted badly
Define "painted badly".

>Has TWO big black suitcases of Orks of various painting quality (well, the ones that are painted at least, which is about 50% of my army)

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>jobs
>2017

>>54985407
These idiots will pay $5 for a truly pitiful amount of paint. I can literally ejaculate a greater quantity of fluid in a single wank than is in those retarded little containers.

>started collecting Bloodbound
>buy the starter boxes and sell off the Sigmarines
>core of my army was super cheap
>but now more specific boxes of shit will cost ~$100
>feel bad for supporting those prices
>but the overall army cost will be pretty alright

>>55013076

Do you think that in the middle ages or any historical period things worked differently? The only difference is that now you have freedom to choose what you want to do so you are able to fuck yourself by choosing badly, while in the past you worked the fields because that's what your parents did.

The fact that you either have a valuable skill people are willing to pay you for or you end up doing minimum common denominator jobs that literally everyone can do it's a hard rule, unless you are living in a fantastical uthopia.

If everything a philosophy degree allows you to do is to teach other people phylosophy then it's a shit degree, because by definition your job is creating your own competitors.

And shit degrees are actually worse than having no degree at all, because if you spent all the time you did getting a degree working then in the end you'll have more useful experience and more seniority.

Nobody values hard work. Nobody ever valued hard work. This is not a characteristic of this society. This is a hard rule of human civilization. You are either able to obtain results others need, or you aren't useful.

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>>54985561
>23 yo
>degree in history and archeology (without finding ajob)
>served one year in the army (not a job, as you dont get paid), even lost money because during an exercise in the firing range my crew fired three shells after they ordered us to stop because the radio malfunctioned, and we had to pay for them
>working as head mantainer in a minihydro powerplant, and get paid 0.90 euro/h because of my shitty special snowflake new age degree of uselessness

Kill me /tg/.

>>55001595
Nobody mentioned coca-cola, you illiterate mud.

>>54985407
overpriced but not unaffordable

>>55015927
Post proofs

>>55017692
>herp derp human history this, usefulness of proper life choices
Like I said, the problem is exactly this ideology, not the practical application of skills. It's both stupid and harmful because it's irrational.

>>55000214
good luck having any of those hot nurses respect you, they all want somalian doctor cock, sven.

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>>55009577
>Cultural studies with an emphasis in writing and narration, as well as political science with a specialization in political theory.
>I also have a post graduate certificate in emergency management
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Holy fuck, I feel kind of bad for laughing, but seriously man, what were you thinking?

>>55001578
Your liver would much prefer you bought that overpriced apothecary.

T. Your liver.

>>55020358
How the fuck is "you need to be able to do something other people needs to be needed in the first place" irrational?

>>55009577
>Getting a degree without a specific career in mind
Beyond retarded. No wonder you work a dead end job.

>>55020775
Please refer to that giant post you ignored but still replied to.

People need every skill, the issue is whether or not you can cut it to make your stock rise. Communication skills are just arbitrarily marginalized because twats like yourself buy into the rhetoric then parrot it around like it means something.

>>55020819
Everyone has communication skills, lol. The people in STEM fields aren't the bumbling autistics you caricature them as, they're by and large well adjusted and can communicate clearly and effectively. The auxiliary staff you talk of exist to do menial clerical work, not to babysit. Your laughable evaluation of the workforce leads me to believe you are in fact one of those auxiliary staff.

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>>55020358
It's not an ideology you idiot. It's literally the entire basis of society. You need something someone else has, he needs something you have, you join forces so that both have what they need.

Without this extremely simple and basic principle there is literally no need for people to live together and form any kind of group or relationship.

If you don't have to offer something someone else needs then you don't get to complain that you don't get what you need from others.

What would be the irrational part of it?

>>55020819
No retard. Communication skills are marginalized because you can literally pick a random individual from the street and he's going to have them. But good luck doing the same in a STEM field. It's simple demand and offer. Those guys with highly valued technical skill are instead so valuable that you get them even if they lack in communication, because you can get any moron to compensate for that, but good luck finding another with those degree.

>>55020860
Here, how about a practical example.

You can have a unit that's stabby, or you can have a unit that's shooty. Taking a shooty unit and making him a stabby unit too is inefficient. Either it'll cost too many points to field a reasonable number for productive results, or it'll be half as effective at both jobs. On a large scale, you may be able to field a couple of units like this, but there's little reason to do so when you can get a cost effective shooty and a cost effective stabby to accomplish both jobs.

>>55020884
Need is relative. One of the biggest ways companies lose money is by pissing off their employees and getting sabotaged from within. People get pissed off for a variety of reasons, but generally it relates to workload versus compensation. A person who enjoys their job will do more work for less money than vice-versa, which means it's incredibly important to ensure your productive workers are kept productive.

What does this have to do with anything? All skills have a practical application, but right now people who have communication skills or critical thinking skills are marginalized because you can pay someone else to do that job. This leads to increased undesirable workload, thus less productivity. Over time, as the successful workers get into management roles, and promote new standards of accomplishment relative to their previous undesirable workload, you piss off more productive people by making them do things they don't really want to do as essential job functions.

Either you can promote an idealized, fictional, example of productivity, or you can use two people to accomplish the job indefinitely at a lower cost for both. Sure, the gross cost is higher, but the net productivity gain in productivity can easily offset that.

In summary, both things are needed, but because you can trick people into doing both, one seems less desirable than the other, when both people would be equally happy if both were involved in the process.

>>55020819
People need different skills, but need those skills in different amounts to be valuable.

If you need a person to design a bridge you give the priority to the "design a bridge" skill, not to the "write a report" skill. What is better? Someone that build great bridges but write shitty report or someone that design shitty bridges but writes great reports about it? In the end what is your priority? Having a bridge that doesn't collapse or having nice reports about it?

And to this you have the fact that when you search for "great at building bridges" you have ten candidates, but when you search for "great at writing reports" you find ten thousand of them.

There is no grand conspiracy to undervalue communication skills. Simply put, communication skills, outside of certain fields, have not much value.

>>55021002
I would have loved a practical example, but you seem to have given me a poorly cobbled together analogy instead. Shame. If we are to equate stabbiness to interpersonal communication and shootiness to technical skills, imagine that the vast majority of shooty individuals are perfectly capable of being stabby. Now imagine your warband's mission is to be as shooty as humanly possible, without totally breaking down and being inefficient. Which unit type is more important, and therefore more valuable? Shooty or stabby?

>>55021119
You're correct, but the problem is undervaluing top-tier communication skills because of the internet and hyperbole.

While building the bridge is a skillset, presenting the need for the bridge and soliciting executive support is also a skillset. Writing the policies for health, safety, and productivity are also a skill set. If you're great at building bridges, people will always want you to build bridges, but if you can't communicate why someone needs a bridge, you're still going to get less work in the first place.

Now, because any fuckwit can say they have the ability to communicate, it's much more difficult to find someone who can effectively communicate in a variety of situations, because most people who say they can are admittedly bumpkins. This is why top-tier communication is actually MORE highly valued than the practical application; you need to be contracted to do a desirable skill in the first place. Being an architect is completely irrelevant if you don't have the support to build anything in the first place.

>>55021168
I'd still argue that while the shooty units are important, you need stabby units to make sure the shooty can specialize. Not as many, but they're still needed, particularly those at a high level.

Now let's give a practical example. Your job is still designing bridges, it's a complete waste of your time to write the policy for how the bridge should be designed relative to regional law, or to ensure the policies relative to worker safety are being followed, or even to catalogue and transfer that information to your boss. Your job is to design the bridge, and when that's your only job, you can to it at a much higher proficiency, instead worrying about semantics, like a worker getting killed on the job despite following proper procedure. You have your communication person break the news tactfully, tell your boss, create a press release, and ensure the optics are positive, while you worry about the bridge-ness of your bridge.

>>55021002
Have you ever worked in a company doing technical work? Because one of the biggest way to piss off someone that does technical work is making him work with someone that doesn't understand nothing about it.

What you propose is completely retarded because you can't have two people do a work where one does the job and another communicate about it. Because the guy doing the technical work then has to communicate it to the communication guy that will never understand all the points unless he has a technical background too. So what you are doing is adding a middleman that is great at doing the middleman but has no idea about the argument. Which is hell for any actual communication.

I am a doctor, and while sometimes It's hard to understand everything from other doctors clinical reports, I can assure you that of those reports weren't written by those doctors but from a communication guy I'll probably understand even less, because by definition If you are not a clinical professional you don't have the skill to write or understand a clinical report.


Also your example is shit because in this case making a shooty specialist being able to do melee decently cost ten point, while taking a melee specialist and making him able to shoot decently cost you a thousand.

>>55021278
The difference is if what your company does is making bridges, you need lots of people that design bridges, while a single communication guy can easy take care of the public relations of the entire company (unless is a very big company) While at the same time you are heavily skewed in applicants numbers, as you have few people with engineering degree of which you need many, and lots of people with communication skills of which you need few.

Also having great communication skills in your company is subordinated to having great technical skills, because even if you are great at selling yourself it's only a short term gain if then your bridges collapse.

Of course one of the reason Apple is a gigantic company is because of marketing. But even with Steve Jobs communication genius if he wasn't able to actually create the iPhone then it would have amounted to very little.

>>55021278
You are confusing things.

Communication Skills are extremely important and valued.
It's communication degree that are a lot less valued.

This is because communication skills are additive. They magnify your other skills. They help you point the attention to your qualities and hide your deficiencies. They help you sell yourself or your product.

But you need to have something to sell in the first place.

>>55004773
>I'm probably going to kill myself
dude, no need to kill yourse-
>Cultural studies with an emphasis in writing and narration, as well as political science with a specialization in political theory.
nevermind

>>54985407

Just going off and reading this thread, I can't believe I got transported to /biz/. Anyway, one of the best ways to circumvent GW's pricey models (you know if it's too expensive for you for whatever reason you have) is usually some local Hobby shops that I know of offer discounts and such from their products, usually 10%-20% discount

>>55022582
There are even some that do 30%. And you of course have second hand models and Chinese recasts if you want things for cheap as well. There are plenty of options. I would agree that buying everything for the retail price is silly, but don't dismiss all of the models out of hand.

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>>55009577
>Cultural studies with an emphasis in writing and narration, as well as political science with a specialization in political theory.

>>55021294
Yes but your unit can't shoot and stab at the same time, which is the whole point.

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>>54985757
thank you

>>54987709
not apologizing for GW pricing but I work as a groomer at PetCo and my wife does the same at Petsmart. We pull in a modest amount to pay all of our bills and still have plenty of dickoff money. She buys fancy makeup and I get occasional models or guitar shit.

We budget for fun and responsibilities. It's definitely possible to afford this stupid hobby without a college degree requiring job.

tl;dr: don't spend your money stupid and you can afford even FW.

>>55000758
>Like a guy complaining about the price on things he can't afford all the time. But really, who does this?

Everyone on /tg/ and in this thread, when complaining about GW shit.

Because the only alternative is that they complain even though they CAN afford it, which is EVEN STUPIDER.

You want it? Can't afford it? Sucks, I guess you can complain about it.
You want it? Can afford it? FUCKING BUY IT WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING, YOU CAN AFFORD IT
You don't want it? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE WHAT IT COSTS

>>55000050
>every real rich person

Haha

>"real" rich person
>moving goalposts this hard
>SO RICH THEY DON'T WORK

Day trading and speculation is still work. The top 1000 wealthiest humans all work.

I don't understand why a typical thread like this stayed alive for two whole days. If someone can afford GW toys, why do you care if they buy them? You know people buy even stupider shit, like $300 anime titty statues to jack off on, when you can literally get better porn for free. Why don't I see a dozen threads about that shit and making fun of people for those purchases, or saying how stupid titty statues are? The obvious answer is because you're all lying fucks and you're really just sour grapes because you CAN'T afford GW shit and you want it.

>>55009577
>I'm talked down to by fucking welfare bumpkins
If you told them what you studied, I'm not surprised.

>>54985432
>No price is too high unless you're unable to afford it at all

That's right good consumer. If you can't buy something then you must not deserve it. The price is a reflection of your value. Working hard increases your value, and credit is just a gift that you reciprocate.

>>55025135

Too bad you have no understanding of economics and don't realize the market is bearing GW's price, meaning its price ISN'T too high. Maybe if you stopped spamming Jew memes both online and offline you'd have a better job.

>>55018411
How do you make less money than a god dam Mcdonalds employee?

>>55025189
GW odd working has resulted in third parties and piracy. That is the market speaking.
Hell some third party options are even more expensive than GW (IG third party regiments)

>>55025189
>Don't believe your eyes, for the market has decided for you! If you will not pay then you can not pay then you are not worthy!

Anon pls.

Also love the idea that anything that isn't consumerism must come from the people famed for money-grubbing.

>>55025295
>That is the market speaking.

GW is still the overwhelming majority of its specific niche market. THAT is the market speaking.

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>>55025295
>>55025409
>That is the market speaking.

DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?

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>>55025476
I feel The Warp™ overtaking me

>>54985561

>23
>manager over a small sausage factory
>make ~32000$ a year
>live in apartment with gf since 3 years ago
>spend ~200$ on warhammer every month

It feels good to not be a shitfuck americunt

>>55025409
>niche market
>what is chapter house
Oh so you are new to the hobby my bad

>>55025633
>>manager over a small sausage factory

I choose to read this as your subconscious admitting that you live with your mom.

>$70 FOR TWO TOYS THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
>I'M TOTALLY RICH YOU GUYS BUT THIS I JUST CANNOT LET STAND

Yall niggas is stupid rich people don't waste their time screaming about how Starbucks coffee isn't worth $5.

>>55025745
>doesn't know the definition of a niche market

Oh so you are just fucking stupid, my bad. "Niche" doesn't mean "unpopular" or "minor" or "irrelevant". It means a subset. GW's market is a subset of the miniatures market which also includes other miniatures in different scales or genres, and the miniature market is itself a subset of the model market which is yet another subset of the toy market.

>>55025745
>what is chapter house
The fuck does that have to do with anything other than proving that GW is in fact the dominating player of its respective niche market? If people start making fake Rolexes, it just proves Rolex has clout in its niche market.

>>54985432
This is highly effective bait

>>55025894
>rich people don't waste their time screaming about how Starbucks coffee isn't worth $5.

The fact that so many of you seem to think that only poor people are frugal makes me feel like I'm talking to children.

I just cannot believe so many people have so little real world experience.

>>55026054
Who needs to be frugal when mommy supplies all of your tendies?

>>55026054
The point is that frugal rich people don't whine about how much shit cost. Because if they don't want it enought to buy it then they don't want it enought to cry about how much it costs. It's only people that want to buy it but can't that whine about it.

>>55018411

Why did you choose such a useless major?

>>55026473
You have literally never met a person before, much less a rich one.

>>54985561
>26
>Got a degree two years ago
>Half of the week I work for free because I need it to improve my skills
>Still paying a lot for courses and similar
>Working in the very lowest places of my category, getting payed very little compared to the usual for my category.
>Realize that even with all the above I still get 25€/hour in the places where I get payed less.
>Also things are getting better every month, and as I continue to gain practical experience will continue to get better.
>Realize that what I consider the lowest point of my career from which I am only going to climb up is still a dream job for many

Thanks God I'm not a retard and I didn't choose a shit degree. I don't want to think where I would be if I got a phylosophy degree instead of becoming a dentist.

>>54985407
>Are the only people left playing GW games the most braindead and spoonfed?

yes

>>55018411
>>degree in history and archeology (without finding ajob)
What job were you expecting to find?

>>55020819
>People need every skill, the issue is whether or not you can cut it to make your stock rise. Communication skills are just arbitrarily marginalized because twats like yourself buy into the rhetoric then parrot it around like it means something.
No, just no. Not every skill is needed. A person who's only skill is clearing away snow will be useless on the middle of the sahara desert. Communication skills do not require specialized training unlike STEM or Law, which means that those jobs which require such skills have a much lower bar of entry. It's not fucking arbitrary, it's supply and demand.

>>55021002
>All skills have a practical application, but right now people who have communication skills or critical thinking skills are marginalized because you can pay someone else to do that job.
>critical thinking skills
Fucking what? What the hell do you think STEM majors develop? Are you so delusional you thinking people with fucking communication skills are somehow better at critical thinking than the set of disciplines which are almost entirely based around that?

>>55026738
If it make you feel better about how poor or autistic you are sure, you can tell yourself that. But extremely frugal rich people are usually into one of two categories. Those that don't have hobbies (or better, hobbies that cost money) because they don't spend money into anything that they don't consider necessary, or those that are frugal in everything but what they love doing.

I am from a upper middle class family, and I have both seen people richer than everyone else that for holiday went to their house in the next town because they didn't want to spend money on vacations but wanted people to believe they did and people that refused to buy toys for their children except for Christmas and still blowed thousands of dollars on motorbikes that never used.

Neither of those whine about how much hobbies costs. They do a lot about unavoidable expenses, but the thought of buying miniatures only if they were a little cheaper will never cross their mind. Either they will never buy them because they don't consider it necessary or they want it enought to blow whatever is the cost.

>>55026054
Frugal people don't waste their money on little plastic men in the first place.

>Can't even get an interview at Walmart or fast food shit
>Not accepted for student loans
>No family contacts that can help

I'm just scraping by on what cash my father left behind when he died, hoping I find something before I run out.

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ITT:
a bunch of NEETs screech about how other people don't work hard enough.

>>55027253
>it's a "everyone who doesn't agree with me is a shill/neet//pol//libtard/cuck/facist" episode
I hate reruns

>>54985407
What's the pistol on that apothecary?

>>54985615
>There's plenty of jobs available anon.
> there's tons of other people that want the same job.

Then no, if there are more people than jobs how can you say there's plenty?

>>55027403
The difference is that the problem is not that the jobs don't exist, it's that you that aren't good enought to get them.

It's like someone on a river full of fish that doesn't know how to fish and cry because there is no fish. No. There is a lot of fish. It's that you are not able to fish.

>>55027340
It's a reductor gun. You put it under the border of the helmet and it blows off the head, so that the apothecary can access to the progenoid gland in the neck and recover it.

>>55027059
>>55027082
Look kids, two stupid tards who bought into the STEM meme and don't understand simple concepts. Look at them and laugh.

A snow removal person is a very highly paid job in Canada that is constantly in demand. You put people where their talents dictate instead of derping over how your special snowflake degree entitles you to be good at everything and everyone else is stupid. A person who creates new technology isn't necessarily the person who knows what it's social impact is going to be, or what policy is needed to prevent abuse of this technology. They aren't necessarily the person who understands how to best implement that technology. They're the person who improved or created something specific to fill a roll, and while that is practical problem solving, it's not critical thinking relative to rules and socialization, or policy and safety.

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>paying a small asian child's lifetime wages in exchange for a plastic figure you have to paint and assemble

Lol

>>55027509
>It's like someone on a river full of fish that doesn't know how to fish and cry because there is no fish. No. There is a lot of fish. It's that you are not able to fish.

If there's 100 fish in the river and 200 people fishing. There's not enough fish.

>>55027036
Something related to the thousands of archeological sites in my place, or become a professor

>>55027630
>who bought into the STEM meme and don't understand simple concepts
Lawfag actually, but anyone defending fucking communications degrees has no room to call anyone else retarded.
>A snow removal person is a very highly paid job in Canada that is constantly in demand.
Yeah, but not everyone lives in Canada. Just because a skill is useful in certain areas doesn't mean that "People need every skill." Certian people need different skills, and if you want to be competitive, you need to have the skills in demand.
>You put people where their talents dictate instead of derping over how your special snowflake degree entitles you to be good at everything and everyone else is stupid.
Many proffesional jobs need fuck-all talent. Everything from law to programming to physics to biology to plumbing to engineering to medicine require first and foremost training. Talent will only allow you to do that faster, but what matters is you actually have knowledge about. That's why degrees matter, esspecially because they're are people who have talent in other areas (like communications) but trained skills in stuff like say programming. In most professions your skills (degrees)>>>>your talent.
>A person who creates new technology isn't necessarily the person who knows what it's social impact is going to be, or what policy is needed to prevent abuse of this technology. They aren't necessarily the person who understands how to best implement that technology.
Firstly, not true. Many STEM majors have undergrads take classes on just those very things. Secondly, no shit, but that stuff isn't handled by meme degrees like communications. Hell, a good portion of that is analytics, which is done by computers, or is handled by either politicians or company lawyers, depending on what exactly you mean by "policy"

>>55027701
>paying a small asian family's lifetime wages in exchange for a metal stick that you have to go wave around in a field in exchange for another fee just to hit balls into holes
Lol

It's as if hobbies cost money... But that couldn't be.

>>55028103
>An incredibly butthurt "law fag" argues semantics while generally agreeing with intentionally vauge statements.
Let me guess, your neither highly paid nor employed.

>>55028239
>generally agreeing with intentionally vauge statements
Nigger what? Are you so retarded thst you think anyone was arguing that those jobs just don't exist? The entire conversation came about because someone of shit degrees. Of course there exist jobs for communications majors, but most of the stuff you listed are not them. And that's the entire point: that communications isn't a useful degree because it's a market with a lot of people in it and very few actual jobs.
And you're still just flat out wrong about the whole "people need every skill," unless you want to cop out and say "people" means the entire fucking human race.

>>55027630

>Look kids, two stupid tards who bought into the STEM meme
It's not a meme it's a fact. You can either accept that and behave as appropriate or cry conspiracy. The former get you a highly payed job, the second get you poverty and menial labor. You are then free to call us stupid tards while we gain in a week more than you gain in a month.

>You put people where their talents dictate instead of derping over how your special snowflake degree entitles you to be good at everything and everyone else is stupid.
If there are 10.000 people with communication skill and 10 position available there is physically no place where to put them. What are you suggesting is to create jobs that aren't needed which is basically charity but with some make believe on to not offend their self value.

>They aren't necessarily the person who understands how to best implement that technology. They're the person who improved or created something specific to fill a roll, and while that is practical problem solving, it's not critical thinking relative to rules and socialization, or policy and safety.

Except that you don't get a communication major to do those things. You get someone with a law degree to work out rules. You get a physician and an engineer to think about safety. You get a different kind of STEM professional to think about the implementation of a technology.

It seems to me that you are extremely confused about what a communication expert is actually going to do. I ask you clearly. What do you think someone with a communication degree should get as a job? What is going to be his role in a company with only his communication skill? Because I can only think of HR, public relations and marketing, which while very important, are also extremely small sectors compared to the rest of the company,and also usually require specific degrees, not a vague "communication science".

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>>55028130
It's as if you're implying a plastic figure has equal value to a nice golf club. That would be insane though so...

>>55028488
>implying value isn't subjective

>>55028239
Not him but I'm the other one responding to this argument.

Are you a retard? The reason for which I support this view is because I have seen too much friends and acquaintances losing years getting some shit degree like phylosophical sciences because they liked it and then spending the next years unemployed or getting shit jobs that have nothing to do with their degrees.

Meanwhile I choose my degree because of future professional opportunities and I have to turn down job offers, while I earn more than twice what they do despite having just started and them having been on the market for years.

>>55012493
>The fact computers make industry more productive doesn't mean you deserve more money, you lazy commie.
And who deserves the money made by comptuers? The government? The employees? The assfuck randomly voted CEO.

>>55028488
>That would be insane though so...
why? hobby items are like that

worthless to people who are uninterested in the activity

>>55028597
>>55028342
You guys are getting trolled. That guy was writing intentionally vauge marginally correct statements to make you argue with him and y'all took the bait like a bunch of suckers. Of course people need every skill. That guy who makes piss and toilet paper statues is needed because inevitably someone is going to need or want one for some arbitrary reason. Of course it's stupid not to use every resource to the best of its capacity because the statement is vauge and assumes the desire is maximum productivity.

Christ, he's retarded but you guys aren't helping yourselves look better by proxy.