>Of course it's a fucking box set >Of course it&#

>>54971321
Literally "yes, of course".

>>54971321
>no updates for any of the elves
>MORE FUCKING STORMCAST
I'm done with AoS

What do you expect?
Stormcraft are AoS's Space Marines. How many times have there been NO Space Marines in 40k starter sets?

The fuck are you expecting? Storm Cast are quite literally the Marines of AoS, as in: They are probably holding up half of the sales, if not more.

>>54971321
I knew you guys were deluded and not that bright, but expecting GM to not spam sigmarines in everything they can goes beyond idiocy.

>>54971321
You're a fucking idiot.
Drink a cocktail of plastic glue and paint water.

>>54971321

>of course, all you queers are going to immediately run out and buy it

Bet even you guys begging for elves in every /aosg/ run out and buy a starter set filled with SC

>>54971321
>Sigmarines
Don't care
>Nurgle
Don't care
I do appreciate GW's sort of small scale box releases, but they've only so far managed a single release that's been worth my time buying.. Would be nice to see a few more left-field combinations - Vampires and Elves, Dorfs and Skaven, Humans and NotSquats

>>54971321

So what? You can buy the boxset and the the minis for less than you would buying only the nurgle side individually. It'll also make the miniatures cheaper on ebay and other sites. What's the downside? Trade some scrub the sigmarines for their nurgle stuff.

>>54971321
>age of sigmar
Only have yourselves to blame.

>still financially enabling GW by purchasing their products

immoral desu

>>54972580
>gw
>I can get it at the store, everyone plays it
>warlord
>two weeks to ship, no one plays historicals

>>54971367
If you were waiting for Elves, chances are you weren't into AoS anyway.

>>54972691
Is anyone actually into AoS and not just catering to their Nottingham overlords like your average 40k player?

Inevitably at least one of you twats will purchase this, what level of Stockholm syndrome are you at?

can I use this nurgles in my 40k?

>>54972818
Yes, quite a few. There are far too many bitter WHF players who always spring up when something positive in a independent thread pops up, but AoS is still doing far better than WHF. I am getting back into Fantasy/AoS simply because how cheap it is now to get into. Also the rules.

>>54972848
>says the Fantasy player who never bought anything for years
>wonders why WHF was nuked
>complains when AoS is actually liked

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>>54971321
Fuck, hopefully they'll eventually sell that hero stormcast separately so you don't have to shell out for the trash she's been packaged with.

>>54972868
Actual real evidence has shown that WHFB was mostly doing, at its weakest, as well as AoS has done at its best.

See this? AoS was only at that position briefly, before falling once again out of the top 5.

>>54972957
Fantasy's revenue gain for GW was 17%. AoS has 30%+. Both Fantasy and AoS were in that top 5 Miniature line then dipped out. AoS is consistently doing better.

Gw themselves have already said AoS has done better than Fantasy has for several consecutive years. You and other anons can post that chart as much as you want but when the parent company themselves announce it is doing better than Fantasy, you can't refuse that except to try to reduce your pointless hard on hate for AoS.

Also

>rules were an absolute broken mess
>entry level cost was stupidly high
>setting (while established) was more stagnant than Abaddon's Black Crusades
>it was solely relying on a hardcore fanbase and not bringing in new players

There are the reasons Fantasy stank in regards to revenue gain for GW.

>>54973006
>AoS has 30%+.

Only GW reports this.All other evidence seems points toward Fantasy and AoS being on-par, so it can be assumed that GW is simply lying.

>>54973026
>the official companies reports refuse my claim
>anecdotal evidence suggests otherwise
>therefore GW are lying

Good god man.

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>>54973041
>an arbitrary number produced by a company with a vested interest in appearing successful, with no data to back it up
>vs actual information gathered openly and put together to form an accurate picture of the industry

Only an idiot would trust GW here.

>>54973041
>Publically held corporation
>NOT fudging the numbers to make their profits look better

Pick one.

>>54973201
Isn't that actually illegal?

>>54973006
>There are the reasons Fantasy stank in regards to revenue gain for GW.
You forgot "stopped doing releases except for giant ugly centerpiece models that nobody wanted to use".

>>54973445
The answer to that is incredibly complex.

Due to the amount of loopholes and the lack of oversight to actually investigate a potential case, the simple answer is no. No it is not.

>>54972868
Is it that cheap to get into now? Character models costing £20 a pop dont sound all that great for entry level.

>>54973744
Also the huge bloat of 8e towards buying fuckhuge amounts of models, the number of people ditching the game leading to a huge secondary market of models, massive amounts of competition from proxy companies, and so on.

40k has a huge amount of proxy competition, but it didn't have things like Reaper Bones to contend with.

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>>54971321
>>54971367
>>54971388
reminder that this is why people hate stormcuck/samecast/stormkikes/lamecast cuckternals

>>54973778
Of course it's not cheap. It's a GW game.

Battered wives will tell you that five identical near-monopose dudes for £50 is fine because there's no real restrictions on army comp, and therefore you only need those five guys, but that's bullshit. I've never seen anyone play a game of AoS with under thirty models. The game just doesn't work at a low model count.

>>54972957
>Fuck, hopefully they'll eventually sell that hero stormcast separately so you don't have to shell out for the trash she's been packaged with.
They've done that with almost everything. Just wait.

>>54971367

It's the same with 40K - options out the ass and new models for SM and jack shit for CSM. CSM stuck with ugly ass models designs from 15 years ago.

>>54973761
>it's not illegal because you're unlikely to get caught
That's not what "illegal" means, anon. I get that you're bootyblasted about the idea of AOS doing well, but GW have always seemed like the sort of company that at least obeys the law. I mean, they pay UK taxes rather than pulling some offshore buffoonery, that seems like a company that's doing things above board.

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>>54974037
>loophole means unlikely to be caught

>>54974069
>and the lack of oversight to actually investigate a potential case

>>54973800

you forgot shitcast

>>54973778
The Skirmish rules has its own independent ruleset book which makes putting something together very cheap. Its not cheap as in 30 euro or pounds cheap, but its still well within the double digit.

Take Chaos. Chaos only requires you to get a warrior box and lord. Now you're ready to play. There is also the narrative play in the mainline game where its practically "put down on the table as you see fit", so its a lot more open than the original format.

>>54973853
Its called Skirmish anon.

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>>54971321

>>54974340
Ive never understood this argument. Playing the game at skirmish isnt a "low entry point" into the actual game.

>>54973800
>rumor.jpg
>not tumor.jpg

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>>54974371

>Stormcast vs Chaos
>Stormcast vs Chaos
>Stormcast vs Chaos
>Stormcast vs Chaos
>Stormcast vs Chaos

>>54974398
>Ive never understood this argument.
Try to think harder about it then anon.

>>54974371
You're comparing history of 5 different editions vs a single edition.

>>54972868
Never mentioned Warhammer fantasy you sperg, I used 40k as an example because no matter what shit gw pulls with it people still buy it out of a sense of loyalty or just regular stupidity.
But
>cheaper
>$50+ dollar heroes
>$50 troop box of ten
>those excuse for rules
Nigga what?

>>54974371
Don't compare it to Fantasy, compare it to what it's trying to be: 40k.
You'll see it matches up nicely.

>>54974760
It isn't much of an argument, and it's one that can be better applied to other games like lord of the rings, Kings of War, or Malifaux.
It's also like saying 40k is cheap since you can just play 40k in 40 minutes or shadow war.
Even then Fantasy had a skirmish ruleset so it's not like it wins there either.

>>54971367
>Please anon don't go!
>We have new models coming out this month!
>It's more stormcast!

>>54974795
Please demonstrate the other starter kits released in 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and 9th WHFB ...
Oh, what's that? They only released one starter per edition?
Odd.
I guess your argument lacks merit.

I can see how difficult it would be for GW to have put out rules that kept rank and flank a thing. But I guess they aren't capable of that ...

>https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Imperial-Armour-Index-Collection-2017

Oh shit - I guess they are.

>>54972691
>if you want to play an army that is in the fluff and is a major part of not just Warhammer, but most fantasy games, you weren't into the game

How does AoS make people this stupid?

>>54975175
AoS is blatantly about space marines anon, don't play dumb.

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Anyone else immediately think the new Stormcast chick looks exactly like Brad Dourif in Alien Resurrection?

>>54975269
she is pretty weird.
got weird elf look to her
The fuck is up with that weave?

>>54974371
>starter set
>starter set
Okay.
>boardgame (containing 1 stormcast model total)
>boardgame (containing 3 stormcast models total)
>boardgame (containing 2 stormcast models total, if you count the doggo)
>battleforce/battalion box
>battleforce/battalion box
>battleforce/battalion box
Now you're just being silly.

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Also, FFED ME SEYMOUR

>>54975328
i am fucking confused about the last 3.
>let's through stormfucks into old world armies.
why?
stormcast is aura/buff army no?

>>54972884
>be GW
>Make 7th "Hero the Hammering" Edition
>"Why aren't people buying a lot of boxes? ; ; "
>Try to force people to buy more boxes by making 8th "Go Horde or Go Home" Edition
>People don't like the idea of spending $200 to get a single fieldable unit
>"UGH WELL CLEARLY FANTASY IS DEAD BECAUSE THE FANS SUCK, THE LOW SALES COMPARED TO OUR MORE POPULAR GAME HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING WE DID"
>kill off the entire setting so you can rename shit for copyright purposes

>>54975472
>the already had perfectly good copyright names but they ditched those for stupider ones
Why highborn aelves instead of Asur?
Why anything?

>>54975512
come to think of it
why didn't they go for Dwai for dorfs ratehr than the generic sounding fuck up.

>>54975472
damn good point
>my blocks must be 40 men
>most regimental boxes WERE 16 so they could be a 4 across and 4 deep regiment and now they are 10 models for roughly same price.
i mean it isn't the worst if you run a mostly warrior WoC army but for empire i shudder

>>54975615
I'm 100% convinced that ending Fantasy was the prerogative when 8th released, they gave it it's chance to become a breakout cashcow overnight, but didn't really care if the idea flopped like it did, since they were planning Age of Stupid Names.

>>54975905
It's a bit of a shame too.
i was trying hype shill for 8th when it first came out way back when.
god i feel like a faggot in retrospect.

Honestly i think the pushing of big monsters didn't help it all that much either
>every army has to have a huge center piece now.
>and big units.
felt like it was heading to mono list but 8th is where i got the least play so eh

>>54973789
You are acting as if I can't just use Reaper Bones on AoS. I already use their worms as Beasts of Nurgle.

>>54976003
Not in official tournaments you can't }:^)

>>54976590
You can say the exact same thing about WHFB, which was the basis of comparison.

So this is where all the "hurr stormcuck" shitposting went from the last AoS thread.

>>54976606
In a unit of 80 models all cramped together no one is going to check each individual model if they look close enough to their gw counterpart.

>>54976642
Beasts of Nurgle weren't in blocks with other models.

>>54975943
I wouldn't feel bad, the writing was on the wall and maybe if we'd all shilled harder we'd still have fantasy, but oh well.

>>54976590
Who plays in official tournaments?

>>54975457
>>let's through stormfucks into old world armies.
>why?

Because they work in cooperation.

>>54972630
>No one plays historical
I feel sorry for you. Everyone at my FLGS plays both Shadow war, 40k, KoW and Hail Caesar + Bolt action. We also have some warmahordes players but no one talks to them.

>>54974371
Same shit with 40k
Star set are Marines vs something
8th is just marines vs marines, like they didn't even try.

It is easier to name the start sets and stand alone "games" that do not have marines than the ones that do.

ITT GW astroturfers
>muh numbers
>Muh increased profits
Of course it's increasing because it's new. Lets see how long this can last though. Toys (vs hobby) wax and wane with fads. It only takes some crying soccer mom about GW's Naziesque imagery to dry the well.

>>54975395
the little globules on the tree also look like the troll pods from ernest scared stupid

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I think this is the first time my wife wants a GW product more than I do.

Guess I'm buying it. Hopefully big snail bro gets 40k rules so he can ride with my DG.

>>54978515
Good news- Deamons pretty much always get dual game support.

>>54979570
Even the named Characters? I don't think there's been a single case of a fantasy named demon getting 40k rules. Would make more sense now though with common bases.

>>54979651
Pretty sure they do.

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>>54979651
>I don't think there's been a single case of a fantasy named demon getting 40k rules.

>>54979651
What?
Almost every daemon in Fantasy had rules in 40k besides the ones in the WoC armybook

>>54979670
>>54979674
>>54979724
I take it back I'm a moron I forgot Epidemius and Kugath and was just thinking of end times shit.

pls no bully
>>54978515

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>>54971321
>Hey so these guys are spacemarines yeah?
>What? NO! these are stormcast eternals!
>Ok but why do they have bolters?
>Oh you fool, those are boltguns! Just crossbows that shoot bolts!

It's late in the game, but a fucking line has to be drawn.

>>54979760
>thinking of end times
Anon don't, it turns the sanest of men into gibbering madmen.

>>54979884
The line was drawn, crossed, pissed on, redrawn, then erased again as gw flew up into the air raping a shark.

>cheap death guard box set
>cheap nurgle demons box set
feels good to rotten

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>>54979939
I bought a Maggoth Lord during the end times and I didn't even play fantasy. Those models were just too nice.

>>54980017
>daughters of khaine is $100
Fuck you too geedubs.

>>54980318
It's two products in one box. One is 60 the other is 75.

Of course the Stormcast has the prototypical 2010's slut haircut.

>>54980318
>the box that saves you the most money

I don't get the hate

>>54980450
it looks like their one streamer

>>54980491
>>54980370
It's the most expensive box and all you get is one overpriced troops box and that shrine. Compare it to the lizardmen or dwarf slayer box which each come with a model worth the price of the box alone.

>>54971321
>check out these sick Sigmarines with Boltbows and Boltbow Pistols!
>Also one of em has tits — TITS!

>>54980550
these value boxes aren't start collecting, they're 400 points for allies though

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>>54975175

AoSfags are literal cucks worshipping the GW Bull and sucking it's BBC to prep it then furiously masturbating while it rapes their wallets

>>54980567
I'll be buying that girlmarine in ebay no doubt.

>>54980621
It still pales in comparison to the wizard box. Just $10 more for double the product is good.

>>54974371
Except that Silver tower and hammerhal have literally 1 stormcast in each of them?

Good job faggot.

>>54980714
lol - calling Silver Tower and Hammerhal starter boxes.
Why not call the Let's Paint! a starter box too?

I'm sorry you can't admit that GW has decided that SigMarines were better for them financially than 30+years of rich fluff.

Your arguments are as weak as your kung-fu.

>>54980664
It rapes their wallets with a game that thus far is considerably cheaper than WHF? How does that work?

>>54981117
>cheaper
Only because of start collecting boxes which isn't much.

>>54980664

I still can't believe how awful these models are. You don't even have to fuck around in photoshop to show this.

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>>54981117
Don't make me laugh, are you saying that paying 80 dollars for 5 terminators or 50 dollars for like 20 stormvermin is worth it? I remember when I could field an army of like 60 minis and they didn't come in packs of 5 for >50 dollars.

>>54981294
It's a real shame, isn't it? The worst part is when GW still puts out the odd nice model - like those skeletons above or the snail/rider in the OP box.

>>54981383
No, it's more like 65 for 10 Spider Riders and 1 big ass spider, to name an upcoming example. Which yes, is worth it when 2 of those boxes pretty much gets a new player to a 1000 point army, compared to what it would cost to field the equivalent points in an average WHF game.

>>54981508
Avarage 8th abortion game where 200 skaven slaves don't even go up to a 5th of your points for a standard game or earlier editions?

>>54981563
Both, whether it was because GW was obsessed with forcing you to buy more infantry, or obsessed with forcing you to buy giant creatures.

>>54981583
But both huge monsters and huge formations wasn't really a thing before 8th.

Also not to move any goalpost, this is just a side note, I don't get why people praise GW for the start collecting boxes. I am not saying you don't save money on those boxes, but one start collecting space marines do not excuse 15 different products where you pay 40 pound for five plastic figurines.

http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/getting-started/product/undead-army-2017.html

60 pound for 67 minis, including warmachines and characters.

https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product_info.php?cPath=66_73&products_id=3147&osCsid=lliplhbf0rpigats22q9esvcf4

60 pounds for 114 high quality, multipose, hardplastic miniatures including added metal character models.

http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&prodcode=pl01&prodname=Dwarf+Seekers&id=118&Itemid=53
20 minis, with over 120 parts. Super high quality, 35 pound (Expensive but lots of parts)

https://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/roman-ancients/products/early-imperial-roman-legionaries-attacking
25 high quality multi part, multi pose, hardplastic, customizible minis for 20 pounds

Why do GW fanboys pretend like their special brand of wargame is not expensive? Privateer press and GW is fucking cancerous.

>>54981769
There's no point bringing this up, it always goes the same way.

>All those alternatives you linked are shit
>Poorfag
>Because I'm willing to pay GW prices they're completely excuseable
>GW has the best miniatures on the market!
>Why bother with less popular games?
>I bet you think GW has no costs/you just don't understand economics
etc

Nobody is ever convinced by this sort of thing, people just double down and start name calling after dragging the standard arguments out.

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>>54981508
And how does that compare to battalion or brigade boxes?
£50 and then £100 ish from what I can find online.

>>54981769
>mantic
>the manufacturer were an army is mermaids and succubi and centauresses but they can't sculpt anything that isn't zombies or skeletons worth crap
At least their warpath stuff has improved.

>>54974371
I like age of sigmar. I really do. I'm even warming up to the setting (vermintide introduced me, so I was expecting the old world). I just hate the stormcucks.

>>54982205
>vermintide introduced me, so I was expecting the old world
The biggest problem.
They've got all these games utilizing the Old World's lore, and all the while they make AoS lore as obtuse-as-fuck to reach.
>inb4 muh novels
Yeah, I've never had to read shitty BL fanfic to learn about 40k.

>>54979884
Technically all crossbows shoot bolts.

>>54982522
Sure, but how many crossbows are called (verbatim) Boltstorm Pistols? A name like that is so baldfaced I'm honestly wondering if GW is trying to take the piss out of the Stormcast = Marines crowd or if the company has simply lost all self-awareness.

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>>54971321

>Of course GW is giving us yet another discounted boxed set
>Of course they force new models on to us
>Of course Im a spoiled brat that probably just joined the hobby

Stop making it so obvious anon.

>>54973026

>The Nile isn't just a river in Egypt

You do know that GW paints sold better than fantasy in the later years, right?
That's how bad sales for WHFB was in the end show.
And Im no expert, but even I can see a shift in the trend. People are actually buying miniatures now that AoS is released, be it for converting to 40k or actually playing AoS, I leave up to your own imagination. But the point is, you must be deluded if you think AoS sales is as bad as fantasy was during the late years.

>>54978515
And even if the snail guy doesnt get 40k rules as is

I think he would make a nifty daemon prince

>>54975395
Lol, didn't see it untill now.

>>54972866
Yes
Apart from the special character all the nurgle stuff has 40k rules.
The grand cultivator would probably work as a generic character on a palanquin.

>>54975395
that fucking straight-out-of-bleach sword
top kek

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>AoS has only been a top 5-selling wargame for one quarter since release in 2015

This is what they killed Fantasy for? Embarrassing.

>>54984454
It's not a sword, that character is wielding a pair of nurglified hedge shears, as per the characters background of a groundskeeper for Nurgles plague garden.

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>>54984454
You do know what garden shears look like, right?

>>54971321
Why does GW have an hard-on for boxed sets? They realized they can just repackage some miniature, throw in a shitty booklet, sell it for 100$ and call it a day?

>>54984651
Basically. They have some clause with the share holders that they won't lower the price pf an item. So this is the only way they can do a discount. Plus the whole self contained game box is good for drawing in new players.

>>54971321
What the fuck is that slug thing and why does it look like it was sculpted from a retarded anime by a 10 years old?

Do we have stats and cost of slimeboy?

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So are the Freeguild still unimportant losers in this setting or what?

>>54985156
Everyone but Smugcast and Khorne are

>>54983165
Dwarfs and Wood Elves sold out immediately at release and so did the better End Times models.

>>54985176
Unironically this, "freeguilds" don't fit the setting anymore and they're getting squatted when the molds break

>>54985211
Was it ever explained why they still have Karl Franz written on their shields?

>>54985249
Nothing official, no.

>>54984556

>obligatory reminder that those charts don't factor in purchases made in GW stores or on their website, which account for 2/3 of their sales

>>54985428

Even then, does that mean that everyone suddenly decided to purchase their plastic from GW directly instead of LGSs, or that it's likely GW aren't shifting too much either?

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>>54985249
It now stands for Kentucky Fried.

>>54985476

It shows that X-Wing is growing pretty quickly, and has managed to pull ahead of 40k at FLGSs, despite GW's rocketing sales over this last year. Much more than that is difficult to infer.

FFG doesn't release financial information, let alone sales figures for individual games, but Asmodee (their parent company) turned over €377.2 million last year, as compared to £158 million for GW, so roughly double. Asmodee owns a shedload of other boardgames and licensing rights (like Catan, just to start with), so FFG products only account for a fraction of their overall revenue, and X-Wing only a fraction of that. 40k outsells X-Wing overall by quite a long way, but X-wing is catching up.

>>54985647
>greatswords
worse chaos warriors

>>54985661
>worse than chaos warriors

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>>54985661
>>54985691
The gud guys are supposed to be the underdog

>>54985704
>elves
>the underdogs

>giant lizard monsters
>the underdogs

>>54985704
>Be'lacuck
Just pelt him with rocks.

>>54985716
does anyone in the setting like bel'akor? hes possibly the most universally hated thing there- hes like wfb cobra commander

its a shame since his model is great

>>54985704
>>54985716
>>54985739

Stop talking about Bel'akor, you'll summon his biggest fan.

>>54983165
Pretty sure paints and brushes are still what gw sells the most of given how redily available the stuff is and how keen they were they repackage it into air, base, and those 3 other types of paint.

>>54974371
Well, they are Stormcast "Eternals".

>>54985773
Carnac has no power here.

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>>54985773
Don't worry, I've brought rocks for everyone.

>>54985739
I'm pretty sure that his entire gimick is autistic screeching. At least when he was a vague plot point in Mordheim he had mystery going for him.

>>54985156
The Empire is still one of my favourite armies in WHF, followed by Lizardmen and Skaven

>>54985791
Remember that time some halberdiers killed a greater daemon of khorne?

>>54984556
>numerous fantasy skirimish games in the market
>GW let's kill our rank and file game instead of fixing our mistakes
>even better blame the consumers!
>make bland fantasy skirmish to compete with already stablished fantasy skirimish games
>fails hard onces the novelty wears off

I'm going to be very upset if they fuck up Necromunda, they need to go hard with the RPG elements and the models must he easy to alter for each passing upgrade and level ups.

>>54985904
Well they failed that last one since they're primaris sized.

>>54985910
Primaris size does not bother me, if they fuck up the system and the model customization then they'll fuck up.
We can just use third party models as we have since forever.

>>54973965
Play deathguard or thousand sons then

>>54971321
>people are talking shit on OP like he's somehow the problem for being annoyed by GW's predictability

It's literally just two Start Collecting! box sets with an extra two minis and some 'game' tacked on. At this point surely even GW realize people buy these solely for the discounts- why even bother with the illusion that these are different 'games' ?

Those lankygryphs are nice at least. Not the riders, the mounts.

>>54975269
Amazing, they turned angron into a female stormcast.

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>>54986265
Warhammer high here we go!

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE, THEY'RE REUSING POSES NOW TOO?

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>>54986500
If we get genderbent primarchs this way then I'm all for it. Finally some good would have come out of AoS.

>>54982607
Perhaps it's the Totally Under New Management GW trying to be In With The Crowd?

>>54975395
My god, everything with this model is so right. It might be the best thing GW has ever created.

>>54986604
Maybe genderbent Curze will know how to wash her fucking hair.

>>54985156
Literally nothing but Stormcast and Chaos are important.

Even during their own release cycle, the not!Sylvari (fucking real smooth there GW, you even stole half the goddamn name) were overshadowed by Stormcast.

>>54986843
>not being her husbando that washes her hair after she's done slowly torturing people to death for the day

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>>54975269
I thought they were going for the Lagertha/female viking look to cash in on Vikings (relative) popularity.

>>54985739
No he's not, I actually like Cobra Commander. Be'lakor aint got shit on him.

>>54985156
GW has realised that people love the old aesthetic, something that's been helped along by that one dude and his Free Peoples of Hammerhal army that has appeared repeatedly in White Dwarf (including in a battle report), hence the new box sets with stormcast + older fantasy kits.

I'm having trouble finding pictures of the army, but it's worth checking out. There's only a handful of Stormcast in the whole force and plenty of other heroes to go alongside them. Some cool kitbashes too.

>>54981769
>>54981881
>Why bother with less popular games?
That's a legit problem though. A LGS has a massive starter box of Antares miniatures which looks like a great deal, but what the fuck's the point if I can't actually find anyone else who plays the damn game?

>>54988189
It's the vicious cycle.
People only play warhammer because no one else plays anything but warhammer which in turn makes more people play warhammer.
Wouldn't mind it so much if they gave lotr time in the sun.

>>54986604
Well nothing says that sigmar doesnt have daugthers or sons. Through the only child of a god we saw was created by Alarielle cutting of her own arm so nyeh?

>>54988232
It feels good playing at a store where Flames of War is by far the most popular wargame.

>>54973006
>Gw themselves have already said AoS has done better than Fantasy has for several consecutive years.
>better than last two years of 8th edition
>Guys it's totally better
Top kek

>>54987681
>GW has realised that people love the old aesthetic,
And here is the problem

>>54988232
>only
No, a range of factors contribute, namely production value and availability. Sure I can get 20 dudes from some game for the same price as 5 GW dudes, but when I have to deal with shitty sculpts, misfitting parts... Also if I have to order through a specific supplier and wait 2 weeks, well y'know what I'm going to be wishing I was playing instead.

The large numbers of Warhammer players isn't such a bad thing.

>>54985428
>Age of Shitmar has no penetration outside of GW's own stores
It's amazing how you think this makes it better

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Guys, relax, it looks like State Troops are back on menu.

>>54988424

What is the problem and for who?

>>54988621
Warlord Lansknecht are a much better fit.

>>54988722
Actually answer already was posted here >>54988621
GW cannot hold attention of people who love WHFB aesthetic, not AoS game or setting.
SO I guess Freeguild models will look much more high-tech comparing with Empire models

>>54988621
>a song of ice and fire

>>54972189
Pretty much this. Even for 40k it's the same fucking issue. Gimme a boxset that pits fucking Tau versus Nids or Dark Eldar f.ex

>>54988883
And what's wrong?

>>54988908
Pretty sure those are bigger than gw.

>>54988977
Nah, they are 35 mm, so as AoS

>>54985791
Will not be enough. No matter how hard you lie, you will not defeat the truth that is Be'lakor!

>>54985808
His shtick is to be the shadowy force behind the setting and eternal challenger of the Everchosen.

>>54971321
that chick better get herself an individual kit!

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>>54971367
>no updates for any of the elves
pisses me off too
>>54972691
>If you were waiting for Elves, chances are you weren't into AoS anyway
no
>>54971710
>Bet even you guys begging for elves in every /aosg/ run out and buy a starter set filled with SC
hell no

god damn it AOS needs aelves like yesterday.

>>54989177
>god damn it AOS needs aelves like yesterday.
None needs Blood Elves miniatures

>>54989177
No, you stupid cuck, it needs more Stormcast Eternals^tm
Now buy more, you stupid nerd faggot

Oh fuck
>>54988789 -> >>54988636

>>54973761
not this guy but also GW has an extremely dodgy(post incest revelations Lannister level) reputation in the sordid sargasso sea of the English business world, the fact is even Londoners give the whole mess a wide berth ive been told.

>>54989177
Nobody needs elves.

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>>54989272
Malekith will be back and get a whole release of new dark/shadow elves with him from the realm of shadow. Just a matter of time, patience.

>>54989427
As I've said none needs another Warcraft miniatures

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>>54989454
>As I've said none needs another Warcraft miniatures
stupid child, Warhammer Dark Elves were the inspiration for your pathetic computer game.

pic related predates world of shitcraft

>>54989479
>Dark Elves
Yes, unlike Dark exilies.

>>54989479
Noone cares nerd, elves are warcraft and so are orcs.
At least stormcast and chaos are unique.

>>54989479
Dude, you seem to attracted the attention of the slav shitposter and a random troll.

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>>54989521
>stormcast
>unique

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>>54989521
>Stormcast
>unique
10/10

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>>54989564
>stormcast
>unique

>>54989521
kek, nothing about GW's settings are unique. They have plagiarised an embarrassing amount from other IP's and visual designs.

>>54989479
>dark elves are the sexiest
>batshit insane, kill each other and slaves for fun
>wood elves are the most exotic
>act like Fuzzy Lumpkins from ppg
>high elves are the most ayy in the face
>insufferable cunts
Guess it's time to brave silk road and bring back a cute Cathayan girl.

>>54989521
>""""unique""""
>blood angels vs bdsm fetishists but in faaaaantasy

>>54989576
shit, that's a pretty sexy conversion

>>54989648
That's what everyone does.

>>54989692
Nah, some people actually have ideas of their own. They have something called ability and talent. Most mediocre creators have neither.

>>54989692
just because you share their lack of creativity doesn't mean everyone else does

>>54975269
I'm glad I was not alone

>>54989709
Like what? post examples?

Thanos is copied from Darkseid
Deadpool is Dethstroke
Ryo is Ryu
Tyranids are Aliens
Tauren are Beastmen
Jag XK is an Aston martin Vantage

>>54989687
>shit, that's a pretty sexy conversion
That's BA minis

>>54989648
And others have taken a ton of shit from gw.
It all comes around.

>>54989797
...oh I see now, now I feel dumb

>>54989832
You can't steal from a thief.

>>54989427
Nah, nah, he'll be entirely made of shadow now, and all his troops will be weird shadow monsters with no real personality.
If anyone complains, they will be told that those are totally aelves, and that they totally have personality.
Hail the Everqueen and her trees!

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>>54989879
its coming

>>54990120
So pale shadow elemental

>>54989832
>And others have taken a ton of shit from gw.
Who?

>>54990499
I expect Blizzard to be brought up, which I guess stole the Orc design from GW.

>>54988722
I unironically use their Thirty Years War Swedes for my Nordland army.

>>54989879
I still hate what they did to the lizards.

>>54990749
Fitting, desu.

>>54980788

No ones saying stormcast arent over represented or that they arent financially good for GW but using silver tower, hammerhal and 2 of those battalion boxes just make you look like a retard. Silver tower has 1 fucking guy in it. I dont think you play AOS and you just looked at the front of the box.

>>54986880
>not Sylvari
>implying literally anyone cares about the shitshow that is GW2
>not realizing that they both use "sylv" because it comes from "sylvan"

>>54983165
>taking what that one AoS shill says the owner of his FLGS told him as the truth around the world

fucking lmao

GW wanted to end fantasy so they could get easier to copyright names, that's literally it. They knew they had the biggest fantasy game they'd ever get coming out and knew how much a good video game sells their products and yet they still killed off fantasy to play it copyright safe.

>>54973006
>Gw themselves have already said AoS has done better than Fantasy has for several consecutive years.

Oh well then I guess you're right, I can't think of a single reason why a company that made an unpopular decision would want to make that unpopular decision seem like worked out for the better. Especially when they blamed their customers for it.

Also: Brand new game with several new releases a year outsells the 30 year old game with one or two releases a year. Go fucking figure.

>>54990526
>hunchback cockney fightan nomads = noble savage green humans with tiny tusks

How in the world could anyone say warcraft orcs steal from warhammer orks? Warcraft orcs are derivative, but not of warhammer.

>>54992308
he probably talking about stealing from Iron Horde

>>54992128
To be fair the guy running gw at the time sounds like a stupid asshole

>>54992373
Well I'll stop talking then because I never played that expansion.

>>54992402
I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the change to AoS was a board decision because the execs didn't like the possibility of frivolous lawsuits being filed against them.

>>54992502
Anyone surprised that when the exec moved on GW started doing cool stuff again? Primaris, trimuvate boxes and discount bundles. I'm not.
Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to run companies.

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>>54984556

>Warmachine is barely on the chart after a major relaunch

Embarrassing.

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>Be prospective customer
>Walk into GW
>See 40k dark imperium, hmm I don't fancy soulless blocky marines vs discusting looking hard to paint nurgle shit
>Let's see what the AoS box is about
>Oh it's exactly the same, weird
>Fuck it I'll just get that new Star Wars box I saw online.

>>54974977
Neither Blightwar nor any other box besides unnamed box is a starter set - in starter sets you have simplified, easy to assemble models. Blightwar has normal models from different boxes with full options, it's like Death Masque was in 7ed 40k.

>>54992612
Fuck off then, you aren't part of the target market. The last thing 40K needs is to become a easily palatable mainstream franchise like Star Wars, Dr. Who, or whatever is hip these days.

>>54992612
>not waiting for 150$ for 103 minis
>>54992679
>40K
>not easily palatable mainstream franchise

>>54992612
>be new potential minis customer
>go to see if anyone is playing that star wars minis game I heard about a year back
>everyone playing something called Four Tee Kay
>lots of organized game nights
>nothing about that star wars game
>buy into 40k

I don't even play 40k but this is exactly how it's going down if they don't go hard on removing the hobby aspect and sell literal premade figures like X-Wing.

>>54992612
The issue is the original trilogy is popular to this day. The new disney universe isn't popular.

>>54992733
>The new disney universe isn't popular
>source:my ass

>>54992733
I mean, the new Disney universe has only had one movie in its big central trilogy. Rogue One was an aborted fetus they should have left in the dumpster it was found in, I agree, but the trilogy hasn't become irredeemable yet.

>>54992764
Well word from the toy community is the merchandise isn't selling the new characters arent as popular as the original. No one knows who they are, just generic brown people in similar outfits

>>54992801
And why would they, when you could get a Han or Luke toy? I don't think it'll ever surpass the original in that kind of sales, but I think that speaks more to how big the original is.

>>54992612
If the starter boxes is enough to deter you from getting into either one of them, you were probably not that interested in the games to begin with.

>>54973006
This

>>54973154
Say what you will but AoS has sold more than fantasy and I have seen it first hand at multiple stores and retailers, it's okay, keep being in denial...
don't get me wrong WHFB was fun while it was around but it's had it's day...

>>54992612
>start collecting boxes don't exist
>implying SW:L and 40k have any sizable amount of overlap in target audience

>>54971321
So how much is this, $160 like dark imperium or more?

>>54994408
Probably. Be like Storm Claw or Death Masque

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>>54984556
desu; After axing Fantasy, some of best content for Fantasy has come out. Tribute RPGs, 9th Age, Vermintide, Total War 1 & 2, and a renewed interest in Mordheim.

Maybe we got a New Coke Scenario?

>>54971321
that looks supremely boring

Can you have two crown of conquests in a given army? Like are items like that considered unique?

>>54993064
>Say what you will but AoS has sold more than fantasy and I have seen it first hand at multiple stores and retailers
[citation needed]
Also
>GW releasing 8th edition
>it's totally kills the game
>launches AoS with shitton
>guys look it's sells better than EndTimes
>success

>>54994382
>>implying SW:L and 40k have any sizable amount of overlap in target audience
Both GW and now FFG aiming fkr the same audience of kids and newcomers in hobby

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This game should switch to d10s and replace the to wound stat with how much the enemy needs to roll.

>>54998125
why?

>>54999216
D10s allow for more modifiers and range of roll while not having a fixed wound stat allows for model interaction.

>>54975395
i kinda just want the blight rider just because he looks like a japanese yokai demon. add a talisman slightly over the eye and he's there.

>>54971321
maybe, they wanted to make the set also for 40k player interesting, that's why there are also Stormcast in it (altough, Sylvaneth could have also worked)

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>>54974069
>pick a mans pockets and steal his wallet and car keys
>escape justice with the "not-getting-caught" loophole
Lawcucks BTFO, coppers can't touch me

>>54973026
where the fuck else do you get a company's sales figures from? youre trolling

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>>54975269
>Brad Dourif
fuck yeah this is now a brad douriff thread

>>54978496
>the little globules on the tree also look like the troll pods from ernest scared stupid
holy fuck

>>54981769
The Perry twins do excellent work so I'll give you that, but a lot of mantic miniatures (basically everything except some of the undead) look like absolute shit

>>54992699
Daemonculaba and torture-rape BDSM elves isn't exactly what you'd see on daytime tv m80

>>54984454
drink your paint water anime scum

>>54985530
my sides

>>54975395
BETTER WAIT A MINUTE
YA BETTER HOLD THE PHONE
YA BETTER WATCH YOUR MANNERS
BETTER CHANGE YOUR TONE

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>>54989566

Its so bad

>>54975269
Her helmet looks better.

>>54992308
>noble savage green humans with tiny tusks

I'm guessing you're too young to have played WC:O&H and WC2:ToD. Enjoy your WoW, baby?

>>54992612
>complains about soulless
>buys Stormtroopers

>>54992801
SJWness biting Disney in the ass I see. They forget that while the movies may make a billion (or two) dollars, the real money is in the merchandising. And nobody cares about their Reysue shit bland characters. Fuck, the only one I really like is Finn.

>>54971321
look at the bright side - it could be Khorne instead of nurgle

>>54971321
Chaos is the big bad villain in their setting. Of course they want to show it off in a starter box.

>>55000950
>WE

>>55001142
Finn shouldn't have wanted to help the rebellion after they killed his only friend in front of him.
But I guess homolust goes a long way.

>>55002455
>Implying that it's the Nurgle part i'm upset about

>>55003042
This

Why couldnt they push their chaosue factions and in each new release box include an alliance faction
>1st: Stormies and khorne
>2nd: Elves (fuck aelves) vs Tzeencth (since slaanesh died)
>3rd: dwarves vs Nurgle
>4th: Undead vs Rat-Chaos

Keep the game-in-a-box shit for Warhammer Quest games theyre kinda fun actually

>>55003042
Kids like big guys in fancy armour. Seems like a no brainer to have those be the poster boys of the setting. The only people who whine about this is old fatbeards that are angry that their best days are behind them.

>>55006445
Kids like the shit they see on tv and let's players.
Just make an army of numales with headsets and fidget spinners and they'll beg mom and dad to get it for them.

>>54978075
start sets and stand alone "games" that do not have marines.

If you don't count Gorkamorka, there is no such a thing

>>55006949
Adeptus titanicus.
Necromunda.
Gorkamorka.
Battlefleet gothic too right?

>>55007052
Battlefleet and Titanicus are specialist games and Necromunda doesn't really count since you can't really use those models outside of the game (unless you feild a penal legion, and that's stretching)

>>55007174
Not to mention those games are long oop.

>>55000702
Oh you sweet burger child.

>>55006538
Too late, Infinity already exists.

>>55006949
Beside the DE, the Knight and the please buy our airplane shit codex one
There isn't a single one.

>>55007052
Gorkamorka maybe counts since it has orks that can be use in normal games, Necromunda... I guess we can throw the random gang models as "count as"
Also >>55007193

In other words I'm surprise they don't add marines in the random non marine army Start Collecting boxes.

>>54987013
Female viking warrior
No dirt
No no makeup

>>54989479
That cover is so fucking metal.