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>>54969775

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>this is OC btw

>>54970097
are you also the one who made the oasis in the desert one?

>>54970097
This is comfy as hell, anon. I won't have time to post a build until later today but I love it. Great job.

>>54970026
part 2 when and where?

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>>54970845
I think that's the first time in a long time that I have seen someone post the incomplete version.

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Okay, first attempt at missions. Put in numbers for mission points, weapons and some of the stage costs and finished the flavour text for a few.
Since I'm more of a writer than image editor, or number cruncher, I'll probably have to remake it several times, so feedback please.

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Angel's birthday is in 9 days, by the way.

>>54970962
>>54970939
>>54970917
i cant pinpoint what exactly- but something about your layout makes your CYOA incomprehensible, maybe its the font or borders

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>>54970962
Still blank spaces for costumes, buildings and gadgets, but that's flavour text. I'll make it for them once I make the cyoa actually playable.

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>>54970992
Yeah, I know. Its too compressed, when it should have more space around the text and images. Like this example somebody from here made.

>>54971011
yea

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>>54970097
>A Mystery
>Center of Town
>Welcoming voice
This has such a good tone. Comfy with just the right amount of sinister lurking in the fog.

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>>54971026
But that's way beyond me. I'll sooner write a short book about this cyoa, than make it look as good.

>>54971051
fair enough

cant say id do any better- dont think id even manage to get as far as you

>>54971051
I'll probably make this page bigger though. Its too compressed even for me.

>>54970906
thnaks m8

>>54970097
this narrator is creepy as fuck desu

>>54970097
>>54970097
>letting a woman be your guide

Unless we're going shopping that sounds like a bad idea.

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>>54970097
hunter - center - retired hunter

>>54970293
Doesn't feel comfy at all to me. Feels like you're surrounded by crazy people and hostile beings hidden in the darkness. Don't understand how one can think the cyoa is comfy after reading the descrpitions of the cottage, the first inhabitant or the lady from the forest

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>>54970097
What in the fuck is this place, some sort of hellish limbo? Silent Hill style?

A mystery, square box, the first inhabitant.

They won't mind if I go nude right? I mean, the windows go both ways so best give them a show as well. One advice from /x/ that always stuck with me: when you're scared just whip it out babe.

>>54970097
>hunter
>town
>first inhabitant
if its a comfy town i enjoy it, if its some kind of hell i kill it- easy enough

>>54971607
Have you read Urban Unease? It feels a bit lik that, especially with The Young Lady implying those lurking in the fog might not be all bad.

>>54971693
only glanced through, I don't like "comfydark"

>>54970097
what hell is this?
>hunter
>centre of town
>retired hunter

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>>54970209
Sea of Sand?
Nope. Decided not to do the way more depressing cyoa instead thanks to reading it.
>>54970293
>>54971033
Neat. I was hoping to aim for that "world is burning but it's okay in here just don't think too hard about what's outside" feeling.
>>54971636
It ripped off what little I know about Waifuborne aka pretty much nothing except there's a doll, she may or may not be an eldritch abomination and also you teleport to the Hunter's Dream via lamp posts.
>>54971693
Well that wasn't really the idea but sure if you like that idea then roll with it.

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>>54971903

>>54971908
>Decided not to do the way more depressing cyoa instead thanks to reading it.
In a good way or a bad way?

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>>54971951

I'm keep having dreams about a tulpa except she's a ghost inhabiting my mind. Please provide a CYOA related to this if you can

>>54971636
>ishowedyoumine2.jpg
p-post the first image?

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>>54970097
>a Hunter
>By the Swamp

There once was a Hunter who fell into a dream
He lived in a cottage down by the villagers' stream
Kind as they were, the Hunter was kinder
In this dream like a web spun by a spider
The Hunter he set out to set them all free
And none from his boundless generosity would flee
The Huntress he killed with a knife he had hid
The Eldest he burned, her home like a candle he lit
The Youngest he smothered until she breathed no more
The Watcher he clawed to pieces, his hands bloody and sore
The Voice he had poisoned, never again would she speak
The Lady he mocked, her friends were dead and she was weak
There once was a Hunter who fell into a dream
That dream he unraveled, seam to seam

I love making shitty poems. Good cyoa!

>>54971942
Well space said he wanted to hug me when I showed him the parts i already had written down.
So probably in a good way. Jesus it's depressing.

Seriously. First section of options is this:
"How do you deal?
Painkillers. Surely your emotional anguish will be quelled if you take away the physical pain. Grab another pill bottle, down the handfull. You don't need water, it doesn't hurt to swallaw a handfull of pills anymore. Even if it does, it doesn't matter. You can get over a painful throat.
Alcohol. Happiness is at the bottom of the bottle. That's what you said when you downed your last drink and the one before it. It's what you say now. It's what you'll say when you drink the next one, and when you resume your habit tomorrow. At least you're not driving since you never leave the house except for a refill.
Stronger drugs. A little prick and a squeeze of the ampule and you can temporarily go to happiness.
??? / Antidepressants. Depressed. Sure, let's call it that. You take the pills and make your psychiatrist happy. You tell them you feel better. You feel deader than ever before. Numb. You've tried stabbing your fingertips just to make sure you were alive, if only by the basic definition.
"

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>>54972045

>>54970097
>Step into the light, so I can read your tics
No.

>Who are you
...

>Where do you wish to live
I think I'm going to move on.

>Do you want a gu-
No.

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>>54972101
Depressing CYOAs have earned their place as well. In this day and age of comfy, waifus and power fantasy ... we need more alternatives.

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>>54972101
Christ, that's heavy. Good luck, anon. For whatever it's worth I really liked One Small Dream.

>>54971928
>Personal
Immortality (36)

>Reincarnation
No Background

>Context
Nobledark (40)

>Power Gain
Soulfeeder

>Class
Assassin

Strength- 4 + 1= 5
Defense- 1 + 2= 3
Agility- 4 + 1= 5
Dexterity- 1 + 1 + 2= 4
Intelligence- 1 + 2 + 1= 4
Willpower- 1 + 2 + 1= 4

>Skills
Craftsmanship- Alchemy I (39), Alchemy II (36)
Combat- Infiltration (33), Ranged I (32), Ranged II (30), Ranged III (27), Melee I (26), Melee II (24), Offhanding I (23), Offhanding II (21), Combat Magic I (20), Combat Magic II (18), Combat Magic III (14)
Mental- Improved Healing (13), Disarming I (12), Suberb Affinity (11), Level Head (9), Fast Learner (8)

>Magic
Illusion II (2)

>Equipment
NONE!

>Companions
2x Custom, both craftsman. One a blacksmith/enchanter, the other a cook/tailor

>Starting City
Saastal

>Perks
Personal Spring
Hunter's Haven
Lucky

>Accomodations
Small House (0)
Main District

>Hidden Ability
Protagonist Drive

>Goals
Kill the Archdemon

>Afflictions
None at the moment

>>54972178
>In this day and age of comfy, waifus and power fantasy ... we need more alternatives.
Real life should be enough of an alternative.

>>54972268
This cyoa would be perfect if you could pick your own spirit and then picked your bf/gf. It might be my low self-worth but I really dislike being the powerless partner to a superhuman. Makes me feel useless.

Demons are evil. Do you have any cyoas for the faithful people? May I humbly request something nice about angels, paladin or the God-Emperor?

>>54972213
i pick aigu

>>54970917
What the fuck.

This isn't Kantai Collection anymore.

>>54972135
holy shit thanks
i need moar of this

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>>54972178
I Dream of Genie anon made me learn I love melancholy/depressing cyoas the most. Loli abduction cyoa and Waifu hatred cyoa taught me humor cyoas rank second place.
>>54972219
I swear this isn't what I think. I'm exaggerating for effect. I wrote that after reading Sea of Sand so I was in tip top shape to write melancholy.
And that's neat to know. It's been a while since I made a cyoa.

>>54972551
If it helps I giggle each time I remember what in the hell I wrote that day.

>>54971973
>>54971951
>>54971928
This is pretty good.

>Personal
Immortal (Free)
Physique Change (2)
Appearance Change (4)


>Reincarnation
Ascending Prince (6) +1 Attr

>Context
Grimdark +6 pt (0)

>Power Gain
Soulfeeder

>Attributes
[Duelist] (12) +1 Int, +1 Wil, +1 Dex, +1 Agi
Strength 5
Defense 6
Agility 6
Dexterity 7
Intelligence 3
Willpower 3

>Skills
Melee 3 (22) +1 Dex, +1 Str, +1 Agi
Armor +1 Def
Ranged 3 (32) +1 Str, +1 Def, +1 Dex
Infiltration
Offhand 3 (38) +1 Def, +1 Agi, +2 Dex
Improved Healing (39)
Fast Learner (40)
Multiple Focus (42) +1 Int
Level Head (44) +1 Wil
Tactics (47) +1 Def

>Magic
Illusion (50)

>Equipment
Medium Armor (53)
Exotic Materials (57)
Weight (60)
Repairing (62)
Coated (63)

>Companions
Memory (my buddy)
Divine Intuition

>Starting City
Kaiserbourg

>Perks
Beneficiary
Connections
Brothers in Arms

>Housing
Apartment
Main District

>Hidden Power
Retry Drive

>Goal
Kill the Archdemon

>Drawbacks
That's the Alarm Anon
Fated I
Guilty

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>>54972268
>I have been scrambling to find people who's love life isn't already fated
>mfw
Ah, I see how it is...

Anyways, I would go for Alice. She seems like a really nice person, and god damn it she needs a hug.

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>>54972551
Oh yeah and the box
I'll stop now don't worry

>>54969696
You know, tomorrow's Eclipse sounds like the perfect premise for a cyoa. What is going to happen?

>>54972675
Some dumbasses are going to go blind despite all the warnings given to them by modern society.

>>54972675
Astral goatse.

>>54972675
My alien waifu will finally enslave me

gently

>>54972178
I like to imagine SDA took the pictures himself.
>>54972675
I don't know but why don't you brainstorm some ideas, add some text and an image and present it in picture form?

>>54972741
Honestly, I don't know how you go blind staring at it. Looking at the sun for more than a second hurts.

>>54972675
Fuck you bitch I googled that and it's only in North America. Eat a whole bag of dicks.

>>54972675
I hope we all die.

>>54972675
I wish I hadn't procrastinated so much on the CYOA I'm making. If it had been done by now, tomorrow would have been the perfect time to post it.

>>54972820
Binoculars, mostly. Occasional telescopes.

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>>54972830
I hope we all die after having a long, beautiful and fulfilled life.

>>54970097
An adventurer
square box
lady of the forest
pretty neat cyoa, kinda wish there was another page or something.

>>54971637
This is actually quite interesting, though there is no mauch in terms of options, you can take the most of them and only real choice is spouse and if you go with superior numbers of troops over your enemies or take challenge of raising 15k. Also what the hell STIG supposed to mean, is it a real word?

Though any CYOA about feudalism of any kind is welcome for me.

>>54970097
An Adventurer
Lone Watchtower
The First Inhabitant

This is some quality comfydark anon, kind of has a painted world vibe going on but with a foggy forest theme rather then snow, love it.

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>>54972335

>>54972675
Isekai, I hope.

>>54972551
I'm glad it helped out, then. I like your stuff so I'm real happy to see more.

>>54972871
>>54972830
Sorry for the things that I know I put you through, no matter what you always put a smile upon my face

Just know that I love you more than anything, just incase we all die

>>54971637
>vast majority of male companions/husbands wear helmets and have their faces hidden
>all female companions/wives are pretty and their face is clearly visible

>>54972969
Seems pretty reprensentative of the available art. Female armor frequently shows the face and mor skin.

>>54972675
Some assholes probably going to be driving while staring at the sky and have traffic be all sorts of fucked up.

On the plus side, maybe truck-san will come for us then.

>>54972969
In medival times looks mattered MUCH less for males than females when choosing a spouse

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>>54973043
I looked up "art male knight" and all of the results except for one on page 3 had visible faces. This was a design choice, I just don't get why? Why hide their faces, then actively choose to describe their hair colour?

Example, the first result.

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>>54973065
The truck of destiny?
I hope so.

>>54972907
>smiting evil beasts with Azrael
>joining the Army of Heaven
The first option is the best option and the true path of righteous. Thank you good anon.

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>>54972874
Another page of what? I had a plan for a "some time later" section but it always feels weird to me to have those.
>>54972898
Neat, thanks. I don't know what painted world is like though.
>>54972941
Thanks man. I love Black & White a whole bunch.

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>>54971415
All the previous text is about how you calculate that.

>>54973258
>geez, anon, you know what this beloved setting that prides itself on freedom and independence needs?
>tell me, anon
>a cabal of multiversal corporations, factions and shadow councils to manipulate, rule and control the players!
>yer a genius, anon

>>54973368

In fairness, I kind of imagine the setting going super dystopian or apocalyptic within, like, a decade.

>>54967841

What was wrong with Jotun and the Black Mist? I quite liked the ice world for one.

>>54970963
What are we getting her for a present, anons?

>>54973772
I vote for baby

>>54973772
I was just going to say happy birthday.

>>54973772
How about something from Bad Dragon? I heard she's got an ... artistic use for those.

>>54973772
THE DICK

>>54973772
Straight sex.

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>>54973823
A get-along-shirt with cyoag.

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>>54973368
Yeah, that setting that's consistently about how ancient conduits were dickish evil gods
honestly, this level of co-operation between conduits is probably too much to ask for
also, the players are conduits, so they don't need to care about any shadow government if they don't want to

isnt there a dedicated general for the conduit shit?

>>54972675
>I hope my favourite CYOA becomes real and i get where i want to be.

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>>54973893
No.

>>54973930
What is your favorite cyoa and where do you want to be?

>>54973930
Congratulations, you're now a proud student of Rapture Academy! Enjoy being the little girl.

>>54973957
No, anon. That's /your/ favorite CYOA, and where /you/ want him to be.

>>54973944
was it shut down?

>>54974004
I haven't seen a conduit general on this board in about a year. People barely talk about it anymore.
It just kind of fell out.

>>54973847
Can't beat the dick

>>54973953
Royal revival. I have no idea exactly what it has but from time to time i daydream about becoming the cute little princess and defend the kingdom with my dear sister. It vexes me that i want something like that so badly because there is no guarantee of it happening any time soon.
I still hold hope though

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>>54970097
Could i request the pic you used for Hunter?
I have one similar, but he has a sword and not a cross-bow.

>>54974047
Nobody can beat the dick.

>>54974028
there was one a few weeks back

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>>54974047
>>54974073

>>54974070
That's a plasma cutter not a crossbow.

>>54973673
The perks are too specific. There's no underlying mechanic to any of the powers. You just get a thing that does a thing.
Also, neither had really strong worldbuilding to make up for it. They both build on interesting concepts to make worlds out of but don't reach their full potential.

>>54974089
Must have slipped by me.
That's not really surprising, I don't pay a lot of attention.

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>>54974070
>Hunter
Ye. First search for "Isaac Clarke" on Artstation.

>>54971928
Personal: Immortality (36)
Reincarnation: No background
Context: noblebright (38)

Power gain: Soulfeeder

Class: Duelist

Strength: 4
Defense: 4
Agility: 4
Dexterity: 3
Intelligence : 3
Willpower: 3


Skills
Offhanding II (35)
Melee II (33)
Ranged II (30)
Infiltration (27)
Disarming (26)
Improved healing (25)
Fast learner (24)
Level head (22)
Tactics (19)
Multiple focus (17)
Combat magic II (14)

Magic: Elemental II (6)


Companions: Divine intuition X2

Starting location: Saastal
Perks: hunter’s haven, personal spring and contract


Accommodations: small house (4)
Service district

Hidden ability: Protagonist drive
Goal: kill the Archdemon

Afflictions
Fated I (+2)
That’s the alarm,Anon (+20)
Equipment
Archetype: Sword type M ( 24)
Material: Rare metal (22)
Add-ons: Trick, Gunpowder type M and ancient (16)
Enchantments: Magi-form and repairing (14)


Archetype: Armour type M (11)
Material: Rare metal (9)
Add-ons: none
Enchantments: Repairing (8)
Additional skills

Monster hunting (5)
C. magic III (1)
Smithing I (0)

>>54974103
In the game, yee.
But in fantasy land they wouldn't have plasma cutters.

>>54974433
First personal choice is free. I missed that in my build too.

>>54970097
It's a good attempt but I can't infer enough information to really give a shit about the dream, the wind, the fog, or what's inside the fog. I recommend adding to it in such a way that nothing is directly stated but does hint at what the fog is, what's inside it, what the dream is, what sort of entities the characters are, and what's wrong with the world in general.

>>54974445
So just have it be some kind of magical/enchanted weapon, whatever. It's a fantasy equivalent.

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>>54974166
Adding to this.
What's bad about Jötun's worldbuilding is that it has no connecting element. If you look at Thrallherd's world or even some fanworlds like Malsanis or Qlippoth you'll notice very strongly that there's an alternate set of natural laws going on and they're connected to what the perks are. Jötun mistakes giving the world a history for creating a cohesive setting like that.

The problem with black mist's worldbuilding is just that there isn't enough of it.

>>54974595
I mean, that's what I'm going to do.
But judging from the art it appears to be a cross-bolt variant done just for design.

>>54971928
Reposting my build just because.
>Personal
Inmortal
Age change
Enhanced physique change
Enhanced appereance change
Even in the darkest of times i am going to still choose to Be The Little Girl

>Reincarnation
No background
Let's just get thrown in and get done with it.

>Timeline
Grimdark
If there is a timeline that needs my help is this one.

>Power gain
The sigil
I like cultivating my own power instead of going around sucking souls and stuff.

>Attributes
The outsider
It has synergy with the sigil. I might start weak but i am going to become a powerhouse later on.

>Combat Skills
Melee I -1
Melee II -2
C.Magic I -1
C:Magic II -2
C.Magic III -4
Armour -3
Fighting while doing magics is going to make me a force to reckon with, so might as well learn to use my armour properly so i don't die when they start to focus on me.

>Mental skills
Superb affinity
Improved healing
Fast learner
Level head
Multiple Focus
Precog
Second chance
If i really want to survive this fuckfest i need to learn fast, keep my cool, and see coming the fact that a demon is about to rip my head out of my body. Even then chances are that i am going to die anyways so better take second chance.

>Magic skills
Elemental I
Illusion I
Delayed release
Wellform
The basics in combat magic and some utility stuff. Everything else i will learn later in the future.

>Equipment
Nothing.
I will ask some freebie to the questing guild. or loot a corpse

>Companions
Divine intiution
Goddess
Waifuing the goddess is mandatory.

>Starting city
Amben
Roast-Sesh (u wot m8)
Librarian
Lucky
Important for rising morale and learning magic and also to not die by bullshit.

>Accomodations
Apartment
Main district

>Hidden ability
Retry Drive
I want the Best ending and i am in the grimdark timeline so i need this

>Goals
Kill the archdemon
If the archdemon is the source of all this grimdark shit then my choice is clear.

>Drawbacks
None.

>>54971928
>Personal
Immortal, Physique Change+, Appearance Change
>Reincarnation
No Background
>Context
Grimdark
>Power Gain
The Sigil
>Attributes
Assassin, +2 Defense
>Skills
Smithing IV, Cooking I, Melee III, Ranged III, Offhanding III, Disariming II, Tactics, Precognition
>Equipment
N/A
>Companions
Custom x2
>Starting City
Orderward, Brothers in Arms, Lucky, Hunter's Haven
>Accomodations
Small House
>Hidden Ability
Protagonist Drive
>Goals
Hunt the Ancient Wyrms
>Afflictions
Guilty, Fated Ix2, Cucked, Drifter's Curse

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>>54972268
>waifu cyoa
>some but not all waifus offer immortality

fuck this shit

>>54975149
Immortality is a curse.

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>>54971928
>Immortal (36)
>Wealthy Heir (25)
>Comfybright
>Soulcatcher

>Paladin

Craftmanship
>Cooking I (24)
>Cooking II (22)
>Smithing I (21)
>Smithing II (19)
>Extras (15)
>Alchemy I (14)
>Alchemy II (11)

Combat
>Offhanding I (10)
>Offhanding II (8)
>Armor (5)

Mental
>Disarming I (4)
>Disarming II (2)
>Improved Haling (1)
>Level Head (-1)
>Tactics (-2)
>Telepathy (-4)
>Telekinetic Barrier (-8)

>Large Blunt Weapon (-11)
>Large Shield (-15)
>Larte Armor Type (-20)
>All common materials
>all coated

>Monstergirls

>Orderward
>Brothers in Arms
>Contract
>Lucky

>Mansion

>protagonist drive

>Settle Uncharted Lands

>That's the Alarm, Anon (0)

That's right. I took the identity death option. idgaf. I'll be using my understanding of electricity to create a modern city. Just you wait.
I chose my perks in order to be a tank. I'll protect my minions while they do the damage.

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>>54972268
>She has started to lose track of her life goals because she decided, a little obsesively, to start making her own cyoas.

FUUUK thanks for reminding me about wasting time on making cyoas when I was supposed to study.

>>54975179
Spoken like a true mortal.

>>54971928
Since I only made a slayer build I guess I should do a normal build.

[40]
Immortal [40]
Physique Change [38]

No Background [38] We'll let my skills do the talking.

Noblebright [40] Just enough danger for a op adventurer to be able to claim his own territory.

Soulfeeder. Grinding may be slow but that doesnt really matter when you've got eternity .

Lets go for a magic swordsman build.

Class Knight

Combat Magic 1-3 [-7]
Melee 1-3 [-7]
Improved Healing [-1]
Fast Learner [-1]
Multiple Focus [-2]
Superb Affinity [-1]
Thats -19 for [21]

For magic, lets take all 3 conjuration levels and 1 level of elemental. Teleport and pocket space are incredibly useful and elemental works well with magic swordsman.
Thats -12 for [9]

Special Equipment: Medium Armor [3] made with Organic Materials [4] That is self repairing and has Presence [2] So it's kind of a weak armor to start but it grows with me and will repair itself anyways.
Thats 9 points so no points left.

Companions : Monster girls. Should be a decent starting party, and any children they may have should be much easier to teach them to obey me. Plus Divine Intuition. Let's say they're a support type. Smithing skills, craftmaster, extras, alchemy, cooking, enchanting, you know that kinda stuff.

Starting City: Saastal. Should be less dangerous than amben and orderward while still providing opportunities for hunting and opening up a smithy shop.

Perks: M-Serum for staying alive, Personal Spring, Lucky.

Housing: An apartment for now. Going to have to hunt to earn a place we can open a shop at.

Retry Drive: Good for making sure shit doesnt go down.

Goals: Settle uncharted lands. It's going to take a while but hey we've got all of eternity.
[str 4 def 3 agi 2 dex 4 int 5 wil 2]

>>54972268
alice best girl

For the Necromancer cyoa. If the author is here could he answer my question? Can I trade in both of my perks for spells or just one?

>>54975179
>Implying that you won't be able to move on or find other inmortals
>Implying that getting tied to a limited amount of time is good
>Implying that you won't be able to adapt to the pass of time
>Implying that the endless wisdom of a thousand lifetimes will not allow you to guide humanity to a better path if you felt like it
>Implying that inmortality is shit is not something we say to try to console ourselves
>Implying implications

>>54973772
a new cuddle cyoa?

>>54973953
Time Stop Chillzone. It'd solve so many problems in my life to be able to have a pocket dimension to live in and all the comforts I could want.

>>54973772
A cake? Something like that cheers up everyone, no clue how on earth it will be delivered but i guess the thought it is what it counts right?

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>>54975893
No. It should be a pie.

>>54975974
Heh.

>>54975812
Idunno, you making it?

>>54975742
>implying that the thousands or even millions of years you will spend doing things and being active wont pale compared to the billions of years of loneliness and nothingness as you wait for the eventual end of all things, hoping that at least that will end your suffering

theres a reason that "immortal wishing to die" is a trope at this point

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>>54975998
>not destroying everything before it has a chance to end

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>>54976019
>not destroying everything before it has a chance to end

and this is why "immortal wishing do die" is a trope that is usually the villain/antagonist

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>>54975893
I kind of like that idea. Imma bake her a birthday cake, then I'll eat it.
Though, to be fair, I do something like that every time I see some random anon mention their birthday on 4chan. I just kind of want to bake a cake this time.
Mmmm... Cake...

>>54976084
Damn. Anon you are making me jealous and hungry, i will have to buy a cake or something.

>>54970097
A Hunter

Center of Town

The Welcoming Voice

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>>54975205
>That's right. I took the identity death option.
you're a bigger man than me, anon.

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>>54975998
>Not piercing the veils of the multiverse.
>Not spending your time sailing the quantum sea between what is and what can be.
>Not finding a way to navigate to existences that you find interesting, even if they're completely foreign to your sensibilities.
>Not turning life into the wild ride, with you as the conductor of the crazy train.

>>54976174
>Traveller in a nutshell

>>54976197
I just hope one of my self insert builds makes it in.

>>54975998
That's why after getting immortality the first thing you need to find out is how to jump dimensions.

>>54976019
>search filename
>67 posts

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>>54976231
It probably didn't unless it's in this

>>54976174
>>54976272

>not understanding that all possible experiences and things will become mundane due to overexposure
>not understanding that you will become decensitized of life
>not understanding that due to the ephemeral nature of all things nothing will have any meaning

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>>54976285

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>>54976288
or this pdf.

>>54976290
>Not inventing an amnesia machine and zapping yourself with it from time to time to keep things fresh again

>>54976311
>not being able to tell if there's permanent damage

>>54976332
>Not experimenting on other people first

>>54976290
Fuck your nihilist bullshit! I'm gonna have fun forever!

Who invited /r9k/

>>54976354
except eventually fun will become meaningless, as will everything else

the reason that anything matters is because you cant have everything- because theres a time limit

as an immortal with a dimension gun there is none of that, there is simply your now infinite existence

>>54976399
>the reason that anything matters is because you cant have everything- because theres a time limit
Fuck off with your ''Life is meaningless without death''

>>54976399
And you know this from experience?

Or just projecting your own philosophy onto everyone else forever?

Is this what nihilism has become? Rick and Morty?

>>54976385
I don't see any complaining about degenerate sluts who don't want to date the complainer and suck his dick on their first date

>>54970917
>half a thread later
>next to no yous

>>54976399
Fun will be fun forever and you can't stop it.

>>54976444
People already told you why youre not getting them

>>54970917
>>54976444
i find it difficult to read

>>54976453
a movie can be good the first time you see it, maybe the first 10 times with classics- but the 100000th time it wont be

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>>54976290
>Not being able to both find comfort and pleasure in mundane repetition, as well as finding excitement through pushing the boundaries of infinity.
>Not understanding that desensitization wanes with lack of input, allowing one to find new zeal in things they haven't experienced in for millennia.
>Not understanding that the ephemeral nature of all things is just an agent of the universal law of change, and that meaninglessness is actually a call to assign arbitrary meaning.

>>54976302
Hey, bonus!

>>54976491
>assign arbitrary meaning.
except you will know that meaning is false, its literally playing pretend with reality

>>54976426
>Rick and Morty?
where does rick and morty have philosophy? isnt it just a decent comedy about a crazy scientists whacky capers

>>54976520
Arbitrary=/=False
>This is for nothing.
>That's funny, I'm using it for this.
>My statement is not funny, it is meaningless. Further more, you are using that wrong.
>I don't know, I find your statements rather amusing, and using this thing wrong entertains me.

>>54976577
>the word "purple" is now entertaining to me
except there wont be any entertainment in the word purple- im just saying there is

>>54976577
>and using this thing wrong entertains me.
except you dont decide what entertains you- so you cant suddenly have something be fun or not fun based on whim, so you would eventually have everything that can be fun become meaningless due to its banality

>>54976520
Perception is Reality. You cannot escape the fact that nothing you perceive is TRUE, but merely a model of reality according to the information your senses can gather. Nothing is known and nothing is true.

Delusions are powerful and the only thing limiting humanity is innovation, creativity and possibility.

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Hekko again /tg/. Guardians CYOA v3 is now ready. A few minor balance tweaks, and I've added skills to chose. This will probably be the last update to it, unless I think of ideas for missions or I need to correct any mistakes. As always, constructive criticism is appreciated.

I'm working on a sequel in case anyone cares.

>>54970097
>A Hunter. Shit, tracking and killing is what I do best. The bigger and nastier the better.
>Lone Watchtower. I like towers and it would be good to fortify. Either that or the Cottage by the Forest. Im a loner.
>Lady in the Forest or the Welcome Voice or the First Inhabitant. Im no good at choosing, these three all sound good.

>>54976661
>except you dont decide what entertains you
Yes you can, autohypnosis, self suggestion, your mood, willpower, drugs and changes of personality.

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Here's Part 2. Post builds. Or not.

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Part 3. I will keep working on my CYOA's until I am worthy of being reposted.

>>54976679
Not that anon but, I never understood the logistics of "nothing being true" being a inescapable true, sound a little contradictory, how do you know for a FACT that nothing we perceive is a FACT?

>>54976679
>Perception is Reality.
yes, but if you take the conscious effort to alter your perception that very effort will make it false- you will know that what you are seeing is not what you should be seeing

>>54976577
>>54976661
>except there wont be any entertainment in the word purple- im just saying there is
Not the other anon, but I find entertainment from your pedantry.

>>54976793
Not that anon, but it's because we can't confirm it as fact from that logic that we assume by default everything we perceive is not fact. It's probably a truncated statement.

>>54976711
>I've added skills to chose
You forgot to mention how many skills one can choose. Or at least it's not mentioned in the yellow part of the intro.

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>>54976793
Because nothing can be verified independently of our perception. Any tool or method of measurement is merely an extension of our perception.

>>54976827
>but I find entertainment from your pedantry.
nice to hear- but say you didnt originally, you couldnt just decide one day "im going to find anons pedantry entertaining" since the very thought of "i will find X Y" then you will know that there is nothing real to the Y, its just a self projected illusion

>>54976457
Should I stop making it then? I mean, visual upgrade is unlikely.

>>54976711
Repost it in the next thread. This one has reached the shitposting end of thread state of no return.

>>54976880
it doesent have to be as good as the example posted- just make it less cluttered

the CYOA is an information overload

>>54971903
>Advanced
>Alice
>Flandre
>Kirisame
>Kochiya

>>54976858
Damn, I always forget something. Pick 1.

>>54976812
But what makes our original perception true to begin with? Red, yellow, green, blue... all these colours do not actually appear as we perceive them and are a fabrication. Hallucinations exist as do tricks of the mind where the cogs between our subconscious get caught and the only thing dividing them is causal consistency.

It shows that not only can our senses be trusted but not even our very minds. In fact the only thing that can save us is shiny metal hats.

>>54976903
There is much shitposting yet to come. We haven't even started talking about traps yet.

>>54976974
>But what makes our original perception true to begin with?
that we didnt have to come up with them, they are simply our minds way of representing what it sees- as opposed to what we want to see

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>>54976994
here we go

all we need now is something about whether clones are people or not / whether killing them is fine and or might is right vs statism

>>54976661
Both of those arguments seem rather arbitrary to me.
People are changing things. Simply by living, we constantly change. We can, in fact, direct that change to some extent, at least as far as we can tell from our admittedly limited perspective.
So why would would I find something arbitrarily banal just because I did that same thing five or six thousand years ago, when I could instead find it arbitrarily fun, or nostalgic? Hell, I don't even remember what I was doing five years ago.

Now that I think about it, the word purple shows up a lot in my life. Yet now that I'm paying attention to it, purple does feel rather odd in my mouth.
>That's not the only thing that feels odd in someone's mouth around here.
Heh.

>>54976827
> we assume by default everything we perceive is not fact
Of course, the burden would be in the person arguing that is a fact but, there is a difference between the default assumed state of not proved to holding that is not the case as a true.
The difference between
>I see no evidence of X so I can only assume no ~X for the moment
>Is the case that ~X is true beyond any doubt
In the second case the burden of proof is on you
>>54976868
A lot of people would argue that a priori knowledge is a thing, but without going there, how do you know nothing can be verified independently of our perception? Because something you got from your perception? Then it cannot be verified, Because something outside of your perception? Then the statement is untrue

>>54977027
Can't we have a discussion about whether rape is wrong in a cyoa where anon has been given the power to reset time?

>>54976998
How do you know that? You are informed by your existing conception of reality and it cannot be used to prove itself. Moreover what DO we want? Free will in the broadest sense doesn't exist, ...but I'm being pedantic.

Essentially it doesn't matter what is real or false, it doesn't matter if we change are perception and it doesn't make those changes any less real to US.

>>54977048

The point is reality is EFFECTIVELY perception and perception is something that can be warped and changed both inwardly and outwardly.

>>54977091
That's a very interesting question, actually.

>>54977091
anything other than handholding and you're a degenerate m'anon

>>54976868
the facts that we're percieving and thinking about things, whatever those things may be, is verified

>>54977091
assuming that time travel isnt "you create another timeline" and litterally changes the past for a set timeline

so long as you rewind time its daijobu- there was no consequence and it never happened, it may as well be a fragment of your imagination

>>54976994
Well, they're not gay. That's all we need to say on the matter

>>54970917
>>54976444
>>54976457
I remember reading the previous WIP update and was considering a build. I didn't post it because there were some elements that needed clarification, and the final elements needed to be finished.

>>54976880
>>54976922
I agree. Perhaps a more standardized format or organization would make it easier to read? I'm not sure how to describe this but this CYOA looks so... busy.

>>54977091
It's not wrong in the new timeline, so long as you don't bring back the you that did it. Else ways, it still happened to some degree, and is thus wrong to whatever that degree is, so long as you consider rape to be wrong.

That said, to what degree is it wrong?

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>>54977140
here we go

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>>54977091
I would argue it isn't TECHNICALLY wrong given they never experience it. I suppose it depends on your feelings. If you feel guilty or not.

>>54977131

How? How is it verified?

>>54977098
>The point is reality is EFFECTIVELY perception
Oh no no no, a second ago it was a inescapable true, now is just a practicality? I'm perceiving a goalpost in a place where I wasn't perceiving it before

>>54976880
also, i know kancolle is effectively fanservice with plot but some kind of backstory/context/something for those of use who dont into ships would be nice

>>54977164
rape is a forceful violation of someone person, and is also potentially bering of serious long term effects/consequences for that person

as such it is still below murder and roughly on the same tier as extreme physical(but non lethal) injury

>>54977173
it's verified by the fact that you wouldn't be thinking whether you're thinking or not unless you were in fact thinking, and perception is whatever you percieve no matter if it exists or not so it tags along as well

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>>54977140
>they're not gay

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>this thread
my work is done

>>54977183
lol, OK. It is EFFECTIVELY a fact, since it is impossible to prove or disprove. Not really moving a goalpost since the goalpost doesn't exist, silly goose.

>>54977140
>Well, they're gay
ftfy

>>54977254
>>54977227
>>54977140
IMO some are gay but others aren't. Silly anons, you can't just say all of them are gay or not, you haven't even met all of them yet.

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>>54977236
You've done well, my pupil.

>>54977269
liking traps makes you gay

>>54977133
I disagree. Retributive justice dictates that there must be punishment of unlawful behaviour for there to be justice. Even if there is no victim, even if the act has been undone, then still the perpetrator should be punished. The basic principles of justice themselves dictate that this punishment should take place. Sure, in such a situation no one would know of the crime and able to bring the perpetrator to justice but that doesn't change the fact that justice should take place.

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>>54977236
It was a pretty fun ride.

>>54977282
That's silly, anon. Assuming that someone who likes traps is gay, it would necessarily be the other way around.

>>54972907
>Laurette
>Victorian Manor
>Seraphim
>Army of Heaven
And yes, I would keep Laurette around.

>>54977140
>>54977169
>>54977227
>>54977254
>>54977269

They're only a little gay, guys. With traps there is an attraction to the feminine features and the contradiction. If they were just gay they'd look at normal gay shit, and they have no reason to lie given this is an anonymous figurine collecting imageboard.

>>54977295
by liking a trap you like a man, therefore any man who likes a trap is gay

>>54977307
it doesent matter, you are attracted to a man as a man, therefore gay

>>54977317
>by liking a trap you like a man, therefore any man who likes a trap is gay
Don't change the subject, silly anon.

>>54977317
So you'd fuck a guy if he had female genitalia? Yes or no.

>>54977240
>It is EFFECTIVELY a fact
Ok, I can go with that wording even if a little jarring

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Allow me to resolve the question using pure, logical science.

>>54977284
>Even if there is no victim, even if the act has been undone
then is there really a crime? if the original act has been prevented from occurring then it never really happened

>>54977337
>guy
>female genitalia
pick one

>>54977340
that guy is obviously overcompensating for the fact that he likes dicks and balls in his porn in the first place

sadly, if you like such things and are a man, you are homosexual

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>>54977340
Did he just divide by zero? TWICE?!

>>54977352
I'm saying do you think genitalia is the only aspect of sexuality? A trap has a female body but normal male genitalia and so is gay, then naturally a woman with a male body and female genitalia is also completely straight, right?

>>54977352
Yes, there is a crime. Undoing the effects of your crime even when taken to its fullest extent aka time resetting, doesn't undo the fact that you commited a crime. Therefore justice demands you be punished.

>>54977389
>A trap has a female body
no, a trap is a feminine man dressed as a woman in such a fashion that might fool someone

its still a male body

>>54977403
calm down Ulric

>>54977403
But the crime literally doesn't exist. Are you saying if I convinced someone or someone deluded themselves into believing they committed a crime, then they should be punished?

>>54977413

Yes but the attraction is to the feminine appearance. Gay people aren't attracted to feminine features, they're attracted to masculine features.

>>54977403
>doesn't undo the fact that you commited a crime
but i didnt, the timeline where that occurred doesent exist

its the equivalent of really lucid hallucinations

also
>if there is no victim
>and there is no act
>there is no crime

>>54977435
then why do faggots have the makeup and shit

>>54977454
>then why do faggots have the makeup and shit
Faggots are weird anon, how am I supposed to know?

>>54977435
>Yes but the attraction is to the feminine appearance
but its still a guy

if you are attracted to a trap before knowing its a man thats fair, if you are attracted after then you are Bi at best

>>54977337
Depends. Does he also have a lithe, somewhat effeminate body type, good personal hygiene, and a pretty face? Because then it's a yes. Bonus points for a bro tier personality.

Otherwise, no. Probably not.

Sorry for butting in on your conversation, I just thought the question was funny, and I liked it.

>>54977403
Hmm, I'm not sure about that anon. If he simply stopped time and removed any evidence and effect of the crime I'd say he should be punished since it still happened, but by reversing time the crime literally never happened.

>>54976880
Don't stop making it Anon i am still waiting for the quest resolution mechanics to be properly finished.

>>54977340
>>54977362
What if you don't specifically like dicks and balls? What if it's the asshole? Is anal with a woman gay?

>>54977478
because it takes one to know one

>>54977435
The crime did take place. Justice is a universal value, a concept that transcends time and space. In an ideal world a divine force would punish those who try to evade their just punishments by time manipulation. In such a scenario, if such a force does not exist, then mankind will probably be able to punish them even though they should. It's mankind that is lacking. Not justice.

Your example concerning falsely convincing someone that he commited a crime does not make sense. He did not commit a crime so he shouldn't be punished. Justice doesn't care for his personal feelings.

>>54977480
I'll concede to that. It's definitely a little gay, but certainly not full-blown gay.

>>54977497
that depends on the asshole's gender

>>54977504
Justice is a human concept, silly anon. It doesn't exist in a vacuum.

>>54977504
>The crime did take place.
no, because you rewound time so that it never happened

key words "never happened"

>>54977485
Does he remember it? Did it effect him?
If yes, then it will have still happened to some degree.
It then becomes a question of to what degree it happened, and how wrong that degree is.

>>54970992
>>54971051
Actually no, the main issue is that these images are being assembled without thinking of how the eye has to move across it. English-trained eyes move with a hard left justification and reset based off of that, so your design always needs a strong left edge that stays consistent. Grouping should also be informed by this property.

>>54977531
But since it doesn't effect anyone, it's like if I imagined killing someone. Would imagining it mean it happened to some degree? That's crazy.

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>>54977504
And how are they going to know of a crime that did not actually happen? Space magic? Also who would spend resources in looking for crimes that did not happen and bring the ''criminals'' to justice? Fucking lawful good holy shit they are more boring than a grey square

>>54977600
i thought ZBG was a vampire with bad hair and a suit?

>>54977526
That's not how it works, at least according to me. The moment he commited a crime he was, imagine it like that, marked for punishment. Even if he rewinds time he still carries that mark. Justice exist as a near-divine imperative outside of time and space. That no one could punish him is a flaw in the way the world works. Again, ideally an angel of justice would descend upon him and he would be punished because it is ludicrous to think one should evade punishment because he managed "to rewind time". Even more so because he'd still (fondly) remember the rape. Crime cannot be lucrative. Even if nothing else remains, the enjoyment he got out if it does. That alone is worthy of punishment.

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>this fucking thread

>>54977615
>Crime cannot be lucrative. Even if nothing else remains, the enjoyment he got out if it does
but there is no act or victim- he is at worst guilty of thinking wrong

>>54977615
>That alone is worthy of punishment.
Why? is a enjoyment that doesn't bring any ill to anybody

>>54977615
If something EFFECTIVELY didn't happen then it is basically a thought experiment! Do hypothetical people have rights!?

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>>54977631
all it took was being bored and people posting conduit

>>54977670
Don't bother Anon. He is lawful good therefore he can't comprehend fun.

>>54977634
There was an act. This is completely different from a thought. Imagine a space wizard raping your mom, impregnating your gf, and feeding your dog to alligators. Then he rewinds time so none of it happened. Do you really think he should not be punished? That one can let someone weasel his way out of just punishment through time manipulation? Even worse, imagine he doesn't rewind all his crimes just the ones for which he gets caught!

In such a setting one can only hope a form of time police exists to investigate and bring to light time crimes.

>>54977686
>LG
hes lawful lawful- even an LG person would fuck off when there is no evil being done

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>>54977610
>a vampire with bad hair and a suit
I mean...
I am, but how do you know that?

>>54977694
>Do you really think he should not be punished?
if he rewinds time so that it didnt happen- then it didnt happen- so there is nothing to punish him for

Worst CYOA thread ever.

>>54977600
Make more pages? i dunno.

>>54977694
>>54977716
also
>imlying i have a GF

>>54977705
the narrator for WOTZB is the vampire from blazblue

>>54977562
>effect anyone
>anyone
Anon, it effects the one who did it.
Imagining murdering someone is wrong, to a very small degree. Negligible, by most metrics, and even non-existent by some.
Vividly experiencing that murder would likely effect the theoretical killer more than simply imagining it, even if the theoretical victim is alive, well, and none the wiser.

That said, I'm not telling you it's just as bad as going out and raping someone, or even very bad at all. The degree of how "wrong" something is can only be determined by someone effected by something, after all, even if that effect is only having heard or thought about it.

>>54977694
But it is just a thought. It didn't happen from MY perspective so if I was somehow aware of it, it would just be like his thoughts had been revealed to me. Besides emotions aren't rational, most people are of course going to want some kind of justice but that doesn't make it right.

Setting aside whether it is real or not, do you think Justice is some kind of mystical force? How do you reconcile differences in morality? How is a universal morality decided if so? And how do inhuman existences fit into it?

>>54977741
Wrong one, the vampire from Blazblue is a bitchy girl, he's from that other anime game.

>>54977716
No, that's just not how it works. It still happened, just in the meta-past

>>54977716
It did happen though. I could only support your argument if the wizard himself was affected by the reset too because then the wizard who commited the crimes would no longer exist. Actually, there still remains some risk of abuse considering time wizards could "suicide" when they get caught which might just lead to infinite loops of crime.

I'm starting to think time wizardry should be banned in the name of justice.

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>>54977766
>Guiltygear
thats the one!

>>54977781
no, it happened as a theoretical concept- no more real than me imagining something

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>>54977785
>Banning time wizardy in the name of justice

>>54977781
You're assuming such a thing exists.

>>54977785
But people are affected by their thoughts too! After I have a thought it doesn't unhappen. A crime is only a crime because society deems it a crime. Society deems things crime because they are harmful to society. Law doesn't exist outside of this.

>>54977785
>would no longer exist
if the wizard rewinds time so that he never commits the crime then there is no wizard who committed the crime

>>54977751
Justice is nothing more than the fair and timely application of punishment dictated by positive law to a crime commited. If the law dictates that people who smell bad should get electrocuted then it justice for them to be electrocuted. Justice does not care for morality. The law is the law whatever it says. Justice is to apply it.

Whether this also includes natural law is a different debate.

>>54977805
>>54977785
>>54977694
>There was an act.
This argument is particularly stupid as it depends entirely on how the fictional universe works.

In THIS universe, if you could rewind reality, it would be analogous to running a simulation. As if you lucid dreamed it in full detail.

In that fictional universe, it depends on whether there is some sort of magical Zeus immune to the time change that triggers on you doing something it doesn't like. Which can be anything, not just a 'crime'.

I'm not gay haha I just fap to traps

>>54977698
You gotta smite ALL the evil, boy

>>54977805
That's like saying that the past of today is nothing more than a theoretical concept.
>>54977829
>You're assuming such a thing exists.
If there's only a single timeline that can be changed, there has to be a meta-timeline. It's just a logical conclusion. Unless you just throw causality out of the window, but at that point the whole discussion becomes moot.

>>54977876
Are you Mystic Justice Anon?

How does that work? In this situation, where time is being reversed, how exactly does a law surpass time and space? How is a CRIME, according to it's official definition, being committed if it didn't happen?

>>54972675
200 people become conduits

then shit gets weird

>>54977880
>you gotta smite the evil that didnt happen
>Schrodinger smite
>quantum purging


>>54977905
no, the past happened and is real- the future has not and is not

>>54977876
>The law is the law whatever it says. Justice is to apply it.
no, justice is what is right (morality) the law is what is permitted- the law can be unjust

>>54977905
the canonical past has consequence on today, the undone future doesn't

>>54977878
>it would be analogous to running a simulation
Tell me one good reason why a simulation that is indistinguishable from the real thing should be worth less.
>As if you lucid dreamed it in full detail
Are you a solipsist? Because otherwise the distinction is that the sentience of other beings isn't real in a lucid dream. The people in the 'simulation' actually think, which is why hurting them is reprehensible.

>>54977943
because it is not real

>>54977905
>If there's only a single timeline that can be changed, there has to be a meta-timeline.

Why? Why does time travel - which is probably not possible at all - have to follow physics as we understand it? It is already an impossibility to casually rewind time.

>>54977933
>no, the past happened and is real- the future has not and is not
Just stating something doesn't make it true.

>>54977937
First of all, even an undone future can have effect, by virtue of the people/things that have undone it. Also, just because something doesn't have consequences doesn't mean it's not 'real'.

>>54977933
Actually the dictionary admits both definitions

>>54977925
The moment it was commited it broke a law therefore the perpetrator should be punished as dictated by the law active at that very moment. Even if he then rewinds time he should still be punished for breaking that law in the future. Consider the need for punishment edged into his very soul, noted by an entity outside of time and space.

>>54977931
>200 conduits
Goodbye earth as we know it.

>>54977977
>consequences doesn't mean it's not 'real
actions have consequences- anything without consequences must not be a real action

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>>54977741
>narrator for WOTZB
>vampire
>suit
>bad hair
I am a homonculus, thank you very much.
And what's wrong with my hair?
I work very hard on it...