Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1683: Big Fluffy Tails Edition

>>54938221
You are disgusting.

>>54938241
Agreed

What a promising start of the thread!

>>54937819
No, because I don't think I'm 'too good' or 'superior' to people who read isekei novels. I'm laughing at those people who think they are while posting here.

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>>54937908
I don't get why you guys keep bringing up fiat, what's the tie between the italians and Jump-chan, is this some kind of shady mafia deal? Why does fiat backs your perks?

>>54938259
It does seem a little hypocritical for us, who enjoy jumpchain, to look down on people who like the isekai genre.

>>54938270
Thank you, this made my day/

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Jumpers!

How do you deal with those insistent, irritating background characters that just won't take a hint? Where was this the biggest problem for you?

Rakansen from Wuxia. Would it apply to Crossbows?

>>54938270
Sponsorship and advertising.

>>54938282
>How do you deal with those insistent, irritating background characters that just won't take a hint?
I set up re-educational camps in every Jump were people may or may not get out in ten years

>>54938282
I just use a clone, fake my dead or just vanish without an explanation.

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Is there any point to getting a Manse in Lunars? How useful are they? Can i get a hearthstone elsewhere?

how can i become a higher dimensional being.
I'm sick of being a puny 4 dimensional guy

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>>54938270
If the mafia was funding Jumpchain we, the Jump Makers, would be getting paid better. Or at all.

>>54938282
So, minor update, we landed in Shadowrun this time around. In Wales. In Llandovery, Wales. If you know anything at all about that place you'd realize just what kind of crap we landed in the middle of. Add on top of that the fact that Katia and myself are chromed out enough to make our magic far less effective than it should be. But that's beside the point. The question was about irritating background characters.

Rhonabwy had this dwarf that manages equipment for all his assets (a.k.a. people under his thumb like me). Felix "Fix-It" Troeger. Fucking Felix is a better name for him. But I have to be polite. Rhonabwy loves the little sneak for some reason and doesn't even seem to mind that he skims 5% off the top.

Anyways, Felix, in addition to acting like he owns the world because he's a favored pet of a dragon, has a thin, needling, whiny voice that he believes is the essence of seduction. I can't even count the number of times he's hit on Katia. He tried it on Sally before he realized she enjoys breaking fingers with her new cybernetic muscles. Felix was smart enough to take that one on the chin, but he won't take a second.

And this is the guy we have to see /anytime/ we need a new gun or my cyberdeck gets smashed or I need a box of Drone parts. Believe me, I tried finding other people to buy from. But Rhonabwy doesn't exactly hand out substantial paychecks to his assets (or at least he doesn't to me) and people I deal with who aren't Fucking Felix tend to disappear. Which causes a whole host of OTHER problems.

So how do I deal with him? I bring him porn. No word of a lie, it's the only way to keep his hands of Katia and business transactions short. He's so eager to see what new filth I brought him that he'll hand over what I need quickly and all but shove us out the door.

>>54938504
Git gud

>>54938479
Aside from the powers of the manse itself a heartstone also often has powers related to that in addition to allowing you to regain essence faster.

They're also often used to power more advanced magitech, like power armor or vehicles.

And no, as far as i know the only way to get a heartstone is to be attuned to its manse.

if i take the dream demon option in gravity falls i will become basically as powerful as Bill Cypher in the mindscape, right? (That doesn't mean i can do anything with that power in the real world)
Could i hold my own against Dream of the Endless that way if the fight takes place in his realm?

>>54938518
i work on gitting gud with loads of magic/technology/spiritual stuff so i can ascend into something higher. I just wanted to hear some other options

>>54938547
Probably not.

>>54937817
Lies and blasphemy and more lies. She's not even best carrier

>>54938504
If you can travel between timelines, which isn't all that hard to find in the chain, you're already a 5th dimensional being.

>>54938566
Well you could be an energy being and multiple types of god. Theoretically you could get there via xianxia cultivation eventally.

>>54938186
>Last Thread
>1681
YOU FUCKED UP. YOU FUCKED UP.
>>54931798

>>54938547
Remember he got beat by mabel in the dreamscape.

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Does anyone have a list of crafting perks? I want to make the best items that others could never dream of having.

>>54938740
Only crafting perks, or any perk that can aid in crafting?
Because Enchantment perks aren't crafting perks, but can totally make the stuff you craft better.

>>54938760
I am fine with anything that involves making crafting better.

>>54938740
I doubt it. There are tons of crafting perks. Hundreds probably.

But for your goal of making the best stuff ever i'd suggest looking at Exalted Solars.

>>54938740
Well first off the top of my head.

Maker in darksiders
Smith perks in demons of astlan.
Forge god stuff in marvel magic
Be a making theme kami in kamigawa
Percy jackson child of haphaestus
Be a forge god in sulernatural
Bayonetta has some nice crafting stuff
As does god of war.

>>54938724
hmm...that's true

>>54938631
yeah, that would be to easy. I guess i have to be sneaky and steal Dreams dreamstone first. I need control of all of DCs dream for an amount of time.... for reasons...

>>54938796
What haplens to a makers soul when they die in darksiders?

>>54938837
They usually wait for another maker to turn them into a construct iirc. They really love that making stuff.

>>54938221
Ugh...

>>54938509
Can you give me some of that porn?

>>54938702
>via xianxia cultivation

what's that? I'm aware that there's a generic xianxia jump, but i haven't been there

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>>54938995
No Simsense chips for you. This is a blue board.

>>54938479
No, you can't get a hearthstone anywhere else, unless you have a Manse some other way. Manses produce hearthstones, that's how it works. As for the point, you get a mystic fortress (all Manses are inherently supernaturally durable, though some are more durable than others and it's possible to make a Manse more fragile than normal in order to make it better at channeling Essence) that's been consecrated and enchanted to perform useful tasks for you and grants you a nifty magic token that improves Essence recovery and has its own powers. That's not bad.

>>54938221
Ugh. If there's anything worse than an SBer, it's a Discordite.

>>54939106
Why don't people build 'fragile' manses then build a mundane super fortress around them?

>>54939034
We've got some specific xianxia settings, too. How cultivation works varies from setting to setting, but it typically involves meditation, training, taking drugs made from rare plants and animals, some mystical soul-refining rituals, and possibly consuming the souls of others. Inevitably, a cultivator will eventually ascend to a higher plane of existence. Sometimes that's the end-state of cultivation, but in a lot of stories that's actually mid-tier and the highest ranking cultivators are some sort of ridiculous double-plus omega ultragods.

>>54939186
That would effect the manse. Manses are all Geomancy/Feng Shui.

>>54939034
Thats the one, go there and just write up your cultivation gradually makes you 5th dimensional or something. Xianxia cultivation usually works in stages though so it would be a long ass time to get to there, luckiky in that jump you have a long ass time.

>>54939186
It messes with the feng shui. Manses are just super-feng shui, you don't want to disrupt the Essence flow around them. That's actually one of the ways to deal with a Manse that has the "Invulnerable" power, fuck up the landscape around it until the power flow is shut off.

>>54939214
>>54939231
Why not simply fuck the Geomancy until it bends how you please?

>>54938479
>Is there any point to getting a Manse in Lunars?
A magic house that has all sorts of cool features like running water, indoor plumbing, and possibly even air conditioning. (these are all rare outside of a manse, Lookshy, or the Dynastic Capital).

They also tend to have great features such as being a fortress, coming with an entire city, or even both such as one of the ones you can buy in Lunars. Having their hearthstone with you gives you faster essence regen as well, the hearthstone is also often a decent magic item on its own even outside of the essence regen.

>>54939242
Only Amilion can do that. And she's married to a Solar.

POKEMON ULTRA SUN AND ULTRA MOON, BITCHES.

>>54939274
Why not be the Solar Amallion is married to?

>>54939282
It might be good like HGSS, or it might be bad like ORAS. It's too soon to tell, we don't know enough about what's being added yet.

>>54939227
>>54939210
thanks

>>54939292
because we have no idea what Moons' Caste was.

You could be his reincarnation, in which case she'll definitely have an Intimacy towards you, but we have no idea what that Solar was like.

>>54939292
He's dead. She's pretty faithful, despite being a Third Circle.

>>54939302
Eh, ORAS was okay.

>>54939242
Because that would probably take a high level Twilight Caste Solar going all in on constructing it.

>>54939327
Nothing stopping you from deciding in your story, anon. 2e is over, you don't have to worry about canon contradicting you.

>>54939329
It also says she's interested in meeting his reincarnation, so.

>>54939242
What do you mean? Like, control the flow of geomantic energy to the Manse to take it over? Well, you actually can do that, there are charms and spells that will do it. Or do you mean make a "Manse" entirely out of warped geomantic energy, with no physical substrate? Again, that is something you can do, there are charms for it. Though without physical feng shui to guide the Essence into the patterns you want you're going to need to fuel it yourself by committing your own Essence. Or do you mean just will a Manse into being by reshaping the world around you? Because again, there are actually charms and spells for that already.

Guys.

Quick question.

How much could Cell derive from a person if he ate one of their legs.
Not drinking them entirely. Just, like, ate a limb.

>>54939383
Not a lot, he does it to Piccolo and doesn't experience a significant increase in power.

>>54939395
Oh.

Phew.
I was worried I accidentally fucked up everything.

>>54939411
What did you do.
Did cell eat one of your legs.

>>54939444
Krillin missed with the Destructo-Disk. Took it off at the knee.

We needed to get the fuck off the island. Fast.

>>54939383
>>54939411
>>54939444
What do Jumper legs taste like?

>>54939468
If you're dealing with Semi-Perfect Cell, he considers eating non-androids beneath him now.

>>54939468
Well, my question is how fucky are your genetics.

Because I think Cell actually could derive something from your genes.

FreyrAnon, why won't she eat the dragon tail?

>>54939497
When cell eats non-androids, he mainly just absorbs their ki/life energy, not their genes.

>>54939483
Chicken.
But also NotChicken

>>54939483
Well I was a Friezer, so probably like lizard.

Well that's good to hear.

... I don't suppose there's anything in Dragon Ball to regenerate lost limbs for non-Namekians?

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So someone mentioned daughteruing Jack the Ripper by going back in time and taking her with you before she becomes a heroic spirit, but wouldn't she or a version of her still be a heroic spirit because of the way the throne of heroes works?

>>54939483
Pork

>>54939576
>Not freebasing Namekian powder and injection Namekian blood into your balls

>>54939599
I dunno why they don't just take the heroic spirit version and make her happy.

Hey, question for the thread here.

I believe that technically any number of technology and engineering perks would let you jury-rig and salvage machines to make stuff but is there actually any straight up Scrap Tech or Trash Tech perks out there?

All I can think of is 2x4 Technology from Kids Next Door and literally the Jury-Rigging perk from Fallout.

>>54939522
Yeah, now if Buu had eaten it, that might be a different story.

>>54939599
The thing about Fate Jack The Ripper is that no one knows if that's really her or not. I could be wrong but I don't think she's actually jack the ripper who killed people.

>>54939599
Pretty sure that only works like that for Counter Guardians?

>>54939599
You know this is one of the few times I feel the fate servant could reasonably be genderflipped. We dont really know what jack was, and his apparent hatred of prostitutes could be because of a warped sense of them lowering her worth.

Or shes just a nutter.

Is there any way to make a perpetual motion machine capable of generating and supplying mana to an entire world indefinitely?

>>54939717
I think that borderlands has something like how the bandits make guns out of literally nailguns and scopes.

>>54939764
`Sure, that's easy.

>>54939764
Easily, one anon on here did basically just that by mixing perks for turning magic into tech, using the spell to turn gold into mana, then building supreme commander factories with chutes over it iirc.

Though I think he also made it so the thing stored the mana for his use in crystals, Im not sure.

If my Second and Third Circle demons are receiving worship, is there any way to tap into and benefit from that?

>>54939717
just become smart enough so that you can built advanced stuff out of everything
rick and morty genius
he build his spaceship out of normal trash from the garage (just look at it) and it has advanced AI, limitless energy via microverse battery, flyes vastly FTL and has a lot of weird abilities

>>54939717
Factorio has something for that. Should be called something like "Bamboo Technology".

>>54939745
We're told that loli jack gutted women and tried to live inside them out of some fucked up abandonment issues over never having a mother, so.

>>54939720
Buu would definitely absorb your powers, and you'd be proper fucked.

>>54939599
You cant "Her true nature is that of a collection of wraiths born from the aborted children of prostitutes in Whitechapel" from the wiki

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>>54932030
>Mushoku Tensei
Got stuck in the magic continent as a talented mage who got shipwrecked and drifted to Rikaris. Went through anxiety attacks between convincing Dead End to let me join them, and not disrupting canon too much along with early battles between Earth and new life memories. Getting used to a lack of modern conveniences since I couldn't use the warehouse on the two year trip without being outed about it, and almost forgot it existed as a result. Plus I had troubles dealing with the blatant non-humans. Real life and a manga are two different things, not offing what twitch instinct tells you is a monster and trying to converse with them and treat them as regular people as a big hurdle. Trying to learn to sword the hard way only really worked well for water god style, utterly bombed sword god style. Too much hesitation and thought.

>Weakness of Beatrice
Everyone hated me, I had a fear of being seen, and notable figures wanted me dead. Plus I was a crafter spec in a world above my pay grade or one with more advanced technology. I was as educated as a brick, comparatively. Day one I dismantled everything of value too heavy to lift before chucking it in the warehouse, along with everything else. Sold off all my liquid assets to turn into buying up text books, tech books, and do it yourself guides, and ran to the hills where I just camped out and decompressed. Lost my voice briefly. Fought guilt and anxiety over letting the fairy genocide happen and stuck my nose into it, relying on OCP magic/magic items to bring down the break news thousand dragon. Dealt with embarrassing agony as that and other actions became global memes. Then basically ran around avoiding level cappers and The Sage, because while the public accepted me the others did not.

>Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
No suffering. Basically just coasted and relaxed without any real problems to speak of. Worked through issues in previous jumps left me with confidence and a sense of self.

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So, the anon that asked about Sailor Mau and Sailor Corvus!

Again, these are just suggestions. If you think you have a better idea, use it.

>Sailor Mau
First off you'd have the ability to shift between being a human or a cat. I think that Luna and Artemis just choose to stay in their cat forms in the manga, in the manga at least. (In the anime it's different and Luna not being a human is a plot point in an anime movie). You'd probably look super cute with a kitty-like outfit, actually. Your form would look like a housecat, with some markings on it.

Your weapon would be a pair of gloves with huge sparkling claws. These claws conduct your energy.

Your standard attack would be GLEAMING SWIPE where you would swing with your claws and huge waves of energy would become unleashed from the claws! Doesn't seem very dramatic but I'm pretty sure it might come with special effects. You don't get an element but you can talk to other cats.

Your finishing move would be where you run at the target and leap on them, and you summon a bunch of other supernaturally powerful cats (This is Sailor Moon, remember) to rip and tear into the victim.

Sailor Corvus write-up will be in the next post.

>>54940005
Fuckin' hell. We need to get her a goddamn therapist.

>>54940081
Or a Tauntaun.

>>54940114
HA!

what's the best "plot armor" perk you know?

>>54940073
Hey Nikamoth, there's increasing evidence that there's another planet-sized object in the Oort Cloud, which evidence mounting every year as people try and pinpoint its location.

When we finally detect it, I'm gonna ask you what a Sailor Scout will get from it.

>>54940132
The one in railgun, gives you literally plot armor.

>>54939969
Oh, thank you! That works very well! Not quite trash you know but definately helps bridge some gaps.

>>54939872
Well the idea was to be looking for useful perks. I don't want to take just one perk and handwave everything.

>>54939786
Oooh, well its mostly focused on weapon and shielding tech but that can always be used in creative ways.

>>54940081
She's the spirit of aborted babys then given the identity of jack the ripper and no trousers... so yes needs therapist

>>54940081
She's literally made of the spiteful dying wishes and memories of hopeless children. In Apocrypha Ruler sees a few of them like her starving to death in the street, dying of black lung, and being raped to death so a younger brother will have enough food for the week. Therapy does not begin to describe what Jack needs.

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>>54940044
>Saint Say Yeah
I was forced to git gud or die on a semi frequently erupting volcanic island. I didn't learn navigation, so I had no idea where the nearest civilization was. I could only sleep in the warehouse, and making best guesses before finally biting the bullet and swimming until I found land. Using the warehouse as a portable island when I got tired. Spent the rest of my time on a tropical island somewhere that wasn't exploding. Didn't speak a word of what they said there, just taught them to punch good.

>Angel Notes
We don't talk about angel notes.

>P&S
Free loaded in the church, did nothing to help beyond make commentary and impromptu speeches about whatever I was doing to justify my lack of help.

>Seven Deadly Sins
Took near full drawbacks, primarily sin of sloth. Fell asleep in warehouse and lazed around inside for a decade.

>Generic Isekai
Pending.

>>54940132
the whole "modern action movie", "80s action movie" and "GI Joe" jumps

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Have you ever worked out a big complicated combo just to have a perk come out and replace it later?

Are you still stubbornly using it or did you give it up?

test

>>54940274
ok...
i seem to be able to post normally in this thread, but i get a connection error notification whenever i try to post a certain thing

>>54940297
What's the certain thing?

>>54940297
>>54940347
Is it a classified government PDF?

>>54940189
You really front loaded the high level shit. Haven't you read any xianxia? You need to have a firm base!

So I can't see any of Val's new stuff in the new uploads folder, someone want to fix that, I don't have them so I cam't.

>>54939764

>it there any way to make a perpetual motion machine capable of generating and supplying mana to an entire world indefinitly?

Van Hellsing "the laws are mine" makes you a supergenius able to completely bend, break and ignore the laws of nature like the conservation of energy
supreme commander "dark star generator" and "aeon paragon" produce infinite energy and matter with output scaling with demand
storm hawks "universal adapter" makes it so you can converse any type of energy into another no matter how meird or esoteric, altough weirder stuff requires even more energy input which is canceled with the first perk i mentioned. So you can converse electric energy into mana 1:1.

>>54940424
>Van Hellsing "the laws are mine" makes you a supergenius able to completely bend, break and ignore the laws of nature like the conservation of energy

Do you people just, like

not read perk descriptions.

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>>54940073
Forgot the name of the finishing move for Sailor Mau, it's OVERWHELMING LEAPING FELINE.


>Sailor Corvus
Much like with Sailor Corvus, you can shift between a crow form and a human. Again, you look like a regular crow. No special markings unlike with Sailor Mau, though.

Your outfit might have lots of cool sparkly stuff with crow feathers. Your magic weapon is a crow's feather quill (It can also write in ink like one too). It's got a sparkly jewel chain, and there's a button on the tip and another on the chain. Pressing the button on the chain turns the quill into a giant dart/knife, and you can hurl the dart at your enemies. That is your standard attack.

This attack is called FLYING CROW CLAW.

As for your finishing move--

Pressing the button on the tip makes it spill ink that turns into feathered darts when you swipe it. The tips of which are just as sharp as supernaturally enhanced obsidian (which is pretty fucking sharp). The enemy gets assaulted on all sides. Pretty nasty to experience.

This attack is called OBSIDIAN FEATHER STORM.

>>54940154
>Oort Cloud

Eh?

>Looks it up

Oooh, that might have attacks related to comets. You might even have comet senshi as well if you get them.

Oh right, forgot to give customized oc options in the jump that can buy perks that I have in all my recent jumps. I'll get on that right away.

>>54940436
>The Laws are Mine
The laws of such trivial things as physics, biology, chemistry, really any sort of recognized science are mere guidelines to you. You can break an established rule of scientific nature so long as it supports your goals and abilities. Anything from conservation of energy, to the conservation of matter, to the second law of thermodynamics in that entropy increases over time. Just... still... try not dividing by zero. I can’t trust what will happen.

?

>>54940416
They were forbidden.

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>>54940436
To quote an Anon after I asked basically the same question: "Nigger, we can barely be bothered to read Jumps here!"

>>54940481
Rule, with a requirement.

>>54940387
>>54940347

it was merely this >>54940424 reply. I don't know why, but i tried several times posting it

>>54940501
It's...

really fucking sad, isn't it.

>>54940483
Why?

>>54940132
One in Naruto that makes it so you literally can't be killed unless it's suitably dramatic/badass (for you).

>>54940215
Who's that supposed to be, Pillar of Autumn?

Did anyone ever get an answer on whether or not Skill Books in Generic Isekai treats powers as skills, I know it does in some Isekai and some of the other things in the jump implies that Skills = Powers in here but I want to be sure?

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>>54940537
A little, but tis the nature of the beast. At least it is to me. I don't make anything popular so I've kind of gotten used to it.

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>>54940073
>>54940451
That same anon here, thanks for the write ups. I really appreciate it.

You always seem to mix just the right amount of cute and effective.

>>54940542
He's making a bad joke anon. If they aren't there then they should be.

>>54940515
to not divide by zero?
I'm sorry, maybe i lack reading comprehension, maybe i'm too dump, but i really don't know what you're getting at.
If it supports my goal and ability i can break the established laws of nature, right? Since the goal is to create a perpetuum mobile and i have the ability to create said stuff, i can bend the conservation of energy rule, right?

>>54940132
Xianxia Protagonist (Generic Xianxia) is pretty high on the plot armor scale.

Speaking of Van Helsing, what's with the salt over Infectious Bite in the notes?

Can someone upload the old DMC jump to the drive so that we can actually jump it?

>>54940679
I think what he's getting at is that the way you explained the perk's effects made it seem much stronger than it actually is (namely by leaving out the detail that it's only one law at a time that gets bent over the table).

>>54940582
I don't know about Skill Books, but when I asked about Skill Sharing he said

>The line between abilities (like, say fire breath or poison secretion) and skills (sword mastery, fire magic) is pretty blurry in the first place. My initial response is that abilities, defined anything possible due to inherent biological traits, can't be copied. But most abilities can be mimicked or improved upon with the right sort of magic spells, which would be skills.

I can only assume this applies to Skill Books as well

>>54940723
Well it's objectively useless if we go off of your interpretation.

>>54940715
What are you on about?

>>54940715
The jumpmaker is a fun-hating autists who hates when people get any actual use out of perks he's written. He tries so hard to make them a useless as possible, and in the end still ends up failing. It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

>>54940582
Question about the same jump, do you actually start as a baby with the reborn origin? Doesn't that mean you'll leave before you are old enough to go adventuring and shit, or by Isekai protagonist standards just as you reach adventuring age?

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>>54940623
Maybe not popular, but I religiously read the Jumps of yours I know about. Ogre Battle is a personal favourite

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>>54940761
>>54940763
>ignoring any one law at a time
>useless

Literally how do you even jump to this conclusion?

>>54940716
It's still there. Under "DMC".
The WIP is under "Devil May Cry". I have no idea why it's in the finished folder.

Welp, the shitterlings are out in force today.

>>54940715
Bancho. No, really. Bancho abused it so hard that OAA nerfed it out of frustration. A similar event occurred with Terra Formars.

>>54940750
The System has a line that anything you can do counts as "skills", though. By itself, that's valid for Skill Books, but with that perk it's not so clear.

>>54940715
>>54940763
You obviously made that initial post just to respond to yourself. It's sad. There's no mention of Infectious Bite anywhere in the Hellsing Jump.

>>54940773
Yeah, Ogre Battle's a good one.

>>54940764
Did you actually read the jump?
There is a +0cp drawback that extends your stay.
Presumably for that exact reason.

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>>54940773
>>54940811
Aw. Thanks guys.

>>54940723
>it's only one law at a time that gets bent over the table
huh, i didn't read it that way

That wouldn't be that big of a deal though.
making different types of machines that work together in the end could already circumvent that (like a car where the battery ignores the conservation of energy and a fuel tank that ignores the conservation of mass)

Even if that's too much wanking it, it's still pretty powerful

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>>54940761
>Well it's objectively useless if we go off of your interpretation.

Not to shitpost or fuel the meme, but fuck off SB.
"Hurr durr, ignoring the second law of thermodynamics alone couldn't possibly have an practical use." or "Hurr durr, there's no way to exploit a perk that can allow one to ignore the principle of mass conservation."

>>54940859
Have another nice reptile

>>54940783
I mean if you can break thermodynamics then you pretty much break all the others as a secondary effect.

>>54940835
There are two drawbacks that sort of look like they are there to solve that problem but they don't really do it.

One increases your time there to a century, which seems a little much if it was to solve this particular issue, and the other makes you powerless until you grow out of infancy while also delaying other drawbacks.

>>54940799
Do you have to try being retarded, or does it come naturally for you?

>Infectious Bite: I don’t care anymore. Use it to give people your Omega Quadra-God Saiyan-Dragon-Boom alt-form amalgamations, use it to make people chihuahua-morphs, I hate this perk and everything it fucking stands for.

"Van Helsing", not "Hellsing". Fucking dumbass.

>>54940788
kek
what did he do?

>>54940894
I realise that "an" should be "a", but I went back and added the world practical without fixing up grammar

>>54940723
Where does it say that you can only do one law at a time?

>>54938504
Go to Paper Mario. With the power of Flip! you can be briefly 5d (since you were starting at 4d).

No clue on permanent things though.

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So what i'm making a chain for a Genius.
Im wondering what I could add to make them unique?

Sure they can forge weapons able to smite planets, or turn the souls of the dead into neat sports car rims, and to some extent mimic magic with mania gadgets but I want something unique.

out of left field.

odd.

i'd like some suggestions from you anons.

>>54940916
Read closer. It says "up to" a century. Meaning that you can presumably choose how much longer you want to stay.

The second doesn't actually alter the length of your stay in any way.
It just postpones any drawbacks until you're at least somewhat grown, because otherwise you'd have to go deal with them as baby jumper, which kinda defeats the point of starting as a baby.

Seriously, no offense, but if you're going to complain about what a perk or drawback does or doesn't do is it really too much to ask that you actually READ the damn thing first?
Not just glance at it but read and comprehend it?

>>54940959
He's doing the legalese thing of wanking that the perk doesn't do what is says it does because if you read the words in a way that doesn't make any sense and chose to interpret it in a way that imposes artificial limitations on it, the perk becomes useless. Nerfwanking, I remember it called.

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>>54938479
They're pretty useful, as people have said.

>>54939827
Well... you could have your Demons tithe the essence they gain from it to you? Taxes in Malfeas are essence-based too, so setting up the system would be pretty easy just copying that.

Otherwise, just have them include you in the worship? Technically, the full names of the 2nd and 3rd Circles include your name too if you're using the Yozi naming scheme, sort of working as a family name since you're their progenitor.

Can someone please give me the latest WoW wip jump?

>>54940926
It wasn't /just/ bancho. It was a bunch of people wanking the the amalgamated alt-form using the Final Form perk from SAO to count as one alt-form which could be transferred through Infectious Bite.

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>>54940416

>>54941091
Interesting, thanks.

>Taxes in Malfeas are essence-based too, so setting up the system would be pretty easy just copying that.
How is the Essence actually moved from the ones tithing to the ones benefitting? Are there some containers it's collected in or what?

>>54941123
huh, must have been before my time jumping
because when i started i saw that as standard procedure.
It's actually a crucial element in my current jump to get as many altforms as possible trough companions with infectious bite, taking different altforms and in the end combining it all with the SAO amalgamated alt form

>>54941043
Don't take any perks or items for anything outside of Genius - The Transgression. That's purty novel and "out of left field" for a Jumper

>>54941045
>Read closer. It says "up to" a century.
>If you take this drawback, you may extend your time in this world, up to a full century.
This means increasing your time there "up" to a century and by up to a century.

>The second doesn't actually alter the length of your stay in any way.
I didn't say that it did.

>is it really too much to ask that you actually READ the damn thing first?
No, and I did read it first. Is it too much to ask that you read what you are replying to?

>>54941043
They... want to make everyone into a Genius? Found the Needle Grail, but want to let go of it due to [reasons]? Want to learn magic, but can't due to their Inspiration hijacking everything?

Does time pass for non-imported Companions while I am in jump or are they frozen in time? (or just Fanwank)

>>54941159
Yeah, it was awhile ago. But you do you.

>>54941043
>>54941163
better, don't take any genius perks at all and just study all the time in all your jumps until you progress to super genius
(kinda like in this story: https://www.reddit.com/r/WritingPrompts/comments/3pyg3h/wp_a_day_before_the_earth_is_destroyed_by_a/)

>>54941243
They're frozen in time. Maybe. You can have eight active companions out while in a jump, but you don't need to import them. Importing just gives them more shit. So, inactive companion are frozen in time, companions that are active function normally unless you put them in stasis.

>>54941265
>reddit
KYS.

>>54941265
>just study all the time in all your jumps until you progress to super genius
That's not how it works.

>>54941304
original

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>>54941158
Well, there are charms that help there. Usually, the Fruit of Living Essence charm is used to strip the motes of essence from a demon.

Then the Chrysalis of Preservation Charm can crystallize the Essence into tangible form (many demons turn it into coins or scrip bearing their personal symbols). Or they could use Touch of Divinity to place the Essence in some physical receptacle


You could also build magitech essence batteries... That'd be easier than having demons use the charms every time. But it'd require a bit more setup, building the batteries.

>>54939642
Because leaving her to stew in the throne is not necessary? why leave her to die and spend a century dead when you can just pick her up when the right time rolls by.
>>54940005
This is who I plan to retrieve. whether she's really THE jack the ripper or would serve as a channel for the rage of 10000 unborn ghosts is a problem for the universes without me in them.
>>54940081
I am building "Everything is going to be all right" style social perks for exactly this reason.

>>54941320
I'm pretty sure a human with an IQ just above 100 (basically if you got a bachelors degree or would have the potential to, you alredy qualify) could literally build anything with enough determination and millennia spent studying/working

>>54941378
K. And you can keep believing that.

>>54938241
Nice, it got deleted :)

>>54941378
Hahahahahaha.... no

>>54939599
Small but important correction, its not time travel. The long war drawback inserts you at the first grail war. I did not think about the emiya problem though, i might end up with two jacks. I am okay with this possibility. twin cute stabby daughterus is a hard thing to be unhappy about.

>>54941464
>>54941520
are you telling me "the count of Monte Cristo" and "Robinson Crusoe" lied to me? :(

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>>54940396
>Haven't you read any xia
More than I care to admit. Only thing high end that was participated in actively was Notes. Jumper's lack of a solid basis will be examined and focused on in isekai when dealing with his juniors in a sense. "I've really jumped the shark, how long has it really been, and faded memories of home" are going to be their main conflicts that they can't really just punch or magic away. Touching base and solidifying it again are the focus, actual threats to setting are not even going to register.

>>54941580
Even if they didn't, those are on a completely different level than what you're suggesting.

>>54941582
If you think you haven't already completely thrown yourself into the high end then I don't know what you're smoking.

>>54940582
Since the jump seems to imply that skills = powers I would probably guess that you can use it for power sharing. Especially given how common it is for skill to be another word for ability in Isekai.

Even if not you could probably combine it with the system cheat from the same jump or almost certainly the gamer power from the Gamer to turn powers into skills.

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>>54941642
>Only thing high end that was participated in actively
>participated in actively

I'm not saying they aren't high end. I am saying that jumper didn't bother to even acknowledge or get near the plot at all barring Notes where you don't have much say in the matter. I'm not smoking but if you brought enough for the rest of the class, feel free to pass it around.

>>54941776
It doesn't matter that you didn't participate, you're both tremendously powerful from going to several very high level jumps and simultaneously you are very early chain which means your base is completely fucked.

>>54941915
Not that guy, but what do you even mean by 'your base is fucked'. Is it just badwrongfun?

>>54941915
You know it's perfectly possible to go to Notes and come out as "A guy with a gun"
It's not necessarily high power.

>>54940989
>Go to Paper Mario. With the power of Flip! you can be briefly 5d (since you were starting at 4d).

i just looked at the jump it's actually filled with pretty cool high power stuff
you can turn the whole world into 2D if you want!
thanks anon

>>54941573
Ah, sorry then I thought you said time travel. Was hoping someone could prove me wrong on the already being a heroic spirit part if only so I could have the one and only Jack daughteru instead of someone else being able to summon her.

>>54941948
I think he's saying their Jumper wouldn't have the mindset to handle all that power, or just the constant change that comes with Jumping. Or maybe he's referring to them not having the life skills needed to deal with external dangers that can't be punched away?

I'm just not sure why he's making a big thing out of it, anyway, considering the other anon seems to want to make a plotline out of it.

>>54942025
>you can turn the whole world into 2D if you want!
I think one anon tried to turn that against scion before, can't remember how it ended up sadly.

>>54942052
i'm pretty sure he died?

>>54942044
There's more to being powerful then having a lot of raw power. There's a lot of little things, versatile utilities, infrastructure, overall ability, contingencies and redundancies. If you start with high power jumps you'll come out strong but you'll basically be fucked for actually improving past that point and you'll still be weaker then the people who slum it around 'low' powered jumps for a while to pick up steam.

>>54942033
The solution is as I said, put on your Shirou Hat and save both of them. or come in as a super late stage jumper and pick a fight with the grail/throne itself somehow. but thats above my paygrade.

>>54942155
>pick a fight with the grail/throne itself somehow
Sadly this seems like the only solution to get the original Jack as the one we summon would only be a copy but unless we free the original they would always long for a mother's love.

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Should I be a God or Demon in Marvel Magic?

>>54942292
Only you can determine that, Kabuto Kouji. For you wield the power of Mazinger Z, the Black Iron Fortress, and bear this terrible responsibility.

>>54942101
A nice theory, but it doesn't work.
A lot of high power jumps also come with skills and memories, unless you go drop-in only.

And hanging out in low power jumps doesn't actually teach you anything about high-power combat.
Even stuff like mundane martial arts is more or less useless if you can shatter concrete just by jumping too hard.

You can pick up a lot of good non-combat skills in low power jumps. Social skills, stealth, information gathering, crafting and so on but any combat skills would need to be retrained anyway once you seriously up your power.

>>54942292
How about you be a demon god?

>>54942292
Whatever you be, try to take both capstones. They're both really useful.

>>54942292
God or demon, what are you?
It's time for you to choose your path.
The power of your Iron Fist; no evil-doer will get past.
Hand to hand or fist to fist. Kick their nuts or twist their wrist.
Chi power will keep your pimp hand strong, so trust me and go Human Warrior or you won't last very long.

BLACK CRUSADE WHEN

>>54942403
When you eat shit and die, Timmy.

Ignore the scatovore, guys.

>>54942458
ROOD, JIMMY
VERY ROOD

>>54942458 >>54942472
But for real though, who pissed in your collective hive mind this time? Or what about, more accurately? Was it the Primarch option or whatever? Primarchs aren't even anything really. Not compared to a lot of things. Especially for the setting which is "you live or die by plot".

>>54942389
That'd mean you can't really afford anything else though.
And Hell Lord isn't that great. Pocket Dimensions aren't that rare.
And the one from DC Occult is more useful imo since it comes with possibly millions of loyal inhabitants/worshippers.

Sure the "can't be killed" bit sounds impressive, but i'd say any enemy that'd be a real threat won't be forced into your dimension anyway, so it's more of a gimmick.

>>54942586
Not physically (although their basic feat is resisting Titans weaponry), but their minds, both as leaders, tacticians and engineers, and as psykers, are among the best in the galaxy.

It took only one Primarch (spoiler]and some Super Space Marines[/spoiler] to turn the tides on all the Imperium's wars.

I mean, they nothing compared to your average Jumper, but they should not be understimated when compared to the rest of their setting.

>>54939599
Better yet.

First adopt Jackie. Then incriminate yourself publicly as Jack the Ripper and spread rumors of your incredible supernatural/martial/marital prowess before faking your own death. This will cause the Throne of Heroes to record Jumper the Ripper.

Summon Jumper the Ripper as a pseudo-servant before doing all this. The Legend of Jumper the Ripper is to steal the Legend of Jack the Ripper and Falsely Illuminate the Mystery of Jack the Ripper's Identity. Extrapolate this into an EX-ranked Noble Phantasm that allows you to steal legend and another that lets you change mystery.

Then steal the power of other servants legends during the other grail wars to power up. Face Shirou in a shirtless confrontation before the grail where your old man kung fu muscles bulge out dramatically.

>>54942586
You're talking to people reacting to the shitposter like they are the shitposter and ignoring the post that is obviously the shitposter.
Are you tired or something?

>>54942586
>Was it the Primarch option or whatever?
Was there a Primarch option being considered for Black Crusade? I didn't hear anything about it. Sounds cool though, I'd like it.

>>54942588
>And Hell Lord isn't that great. Pocket Dimensions aren't that rare.
>Sure the "can't be killed" bit sounds impressive, but i'd say any enemy that'd be a real threat won't be forced into your dimension anyway, so it's more of a gimmick.


Hell Lord can fuse with other pocket dimensions without the need of importing them (so far I think only Dimension Lord has that option). Also, the can't be killed and nigh-omnipotence can be exported using I Am The Fortress from Masters of Magic.

I think it's far more than worth the undiscounted 1000 CP.

>>54942658
Some people like to equate responding to the shitposter as being the shitposter, as of course any reactions have to be the shitposter samefagging to durm up attention. They aren't always right, they aren't always wrong. Don't take it personally; its Timmy's fault for being a samefagging faggot.

>>54942292
generally god, but the hell lord perk for the demon background is amazing

just take both and go all out on drawbacks

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>>54942644
>Then steal the power of other servants legends during the other grail wars to power up. Face Shirou in a shirtless confrontation before the grail where your old man kung fu muscles bulge out dramatically.

Isn't that basically the Heaven's Feel route?

>>54942680
I like the idea too. Although I'm not sure what it would actually entail beyond having one of the worst Dads in the history of the galaxy.
Super strength, great stature, rapid maturation, psyker powers maybe?

>>54942725
Pretty much. If you're pulling off complicated plots over hundreds of years and you aren't a waifu then you're the bad guy of the LN.

>>54938282
Laugh and play tricks on them. If they want to follow me, they can be of service and be my fools. How long they survive or hang around tells me how smart they are, and I may eventually begin to respect them.

>>54942725
How good of an idea is to companion Kotomine? What version should I take? Old Kotomine or young Kotomine?

>>54942643
Eh. Not all where psykers though if I recall correctly all at least had the capacity for it.
>both as leaders, tacticians and engineers,
Things which could be learned and all of which wasn't universal. Even the physical stuff varying. It could be done easily enough and still have it be balanced. In either case, I'm not going to 40k because fuck that I don't want to die to warp bullshit. Even as strong as the EoM and I'd be paranoid to.
>>54942658
>Are you tired
N-no.

>>54942684
That combo is a little too cheesy for my tastes.

I also don't think the Hell Lord dimension counts as "a place of ritual significance" you can attune yourself to, or that just because your place of power is in the Hell Lord dimension you get all the benefits of that instead of just the benefits of Place of Power (or whatever place you're attuned to).

If you want to fanwank it that way i'm not gonna start an argument about it though.
I just think it's a little too much when the combo can easily be interpreted in a less liberal way that doesn't offer complete invulnerability.

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When was the last time that your plans unintentionally angered the local cosmic powers?

>>54942803
It's a really bad idea. Young Kotomine is a ticking time bomb waiting for something to make him stop repressing his evil urges, Old Kotomine is a actively exploding timebomb.

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>>54942803
Young Kotomine I think would be willing to listen if you were trying to fix his soul. Young Kotomine is very conflicted over his whole deal of not being happy unless he's inflicting suffering. It's only because of Gilgamesh's influence that he is the way he is.

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>>54942823
>Things which could be learned
Not on that degree.

One Primarch alone is enough to command multi-solar system empires on their own. And some are more than capable of taking over the entire Imperium's administrative duties without breaking a sweat.

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Mushoku Tensei

>Begaritto Continent - Dungeon
>Magician
>? years old
>Supard -100
Really not sure what my backstory is supposed to be due to the drawback I took. I'm a Supard but a baby one because of the drawback which I'm not sure is a thing that exists. And I guess me and my family are living in a dungeon. On the plus side if I was a baby at the time at least as a kid people will be aware that I'm probably too young to have massacred anyone yet. Probably won't help a lot.


>Leaky Limiter 100
Sort of mandatory.

>Team Battle
Teamwork!

>Healing Magic 200
Mostly an afterthought as I decided to take the Green Hair drawback and had 100 CP left over after buying Fighting Spirit. Not sure how I know it if I'm a baby. Maybe I'm just that much of a natural.

>Silent Casting 400
Seemed more dignified than the alternative.

>Demon Seed 700
Struck me as the most unique capstone, enough so that I picked it up for my companion as well who is generally not that magey.

>Fighting Spirit 800
Converts mana to physical prowess and as someone with a tonne of constantly expanding mana it seemed a good get for 100 CP.

>Wand
>Soul Spear
>Element Attuned Staff 950
Going to roll these into one thing. Wand and the Staff give varying levels of magical boost and a strong boost to elemental attacks (probably going with fire as it's what I have the most of). The Soul Spear was the whole reason for taking Supard.

>King Ranked Spellbook 1150
The updating feature made them worth getting. With my reading combo I'll pick the spells up almost immediately so that'll be nice.

>Companion Import 1200 -Ramona: Elf, Leaky Limiter 200, Team Battle, Demon Seed 500, Wand
Boring import really as I went for the most obvious stuff. Also made her an elf for giggles and flappy ears. Not sure if she would live in the dungeon as well.

>>54942684
Still >>54942829

I also don't actually WANT to combine my different pocket dimensions.
I use the the 30:1 time dilation from my Generic Creepypasta Pocket Realm to train and for vacations, but combining it with Dimension Lord would mean that a month would pass for every day outside - not something i find desirable for the Dimension Lord dimension, since i use it for different things.

Similar for The Inner World from Exalted Infernals.
I also use that for different things, so i don't want it combined with either of the other two.

>>54942829
Even leaving that alone, the ability to fiat fuse the other dimension perks is still worth it.

>>54942881
>>54942874
Jumper is not exactly a good person. I was mostly worrying of the chances of him suddenly deciding to stab the Jumper in the back.

>>54942586
There wasn't a Primarch option in BC to my knowledge. There was going to be an option to eventually become a Daemon Prince, but that would be a terrible idea as it involves loyally serving the fucking Chaos Gods.

I think someone was also working in a Great Crusade jump that was supposed to have a Primarch option, but apparently that was his first jump and the sheer scale of it got to him so he put if off for now.

>>54942684
>>54942588
>>54942829

the "correct" combo is: putting the tower of fate into your dimension lord dimension, attune to that place and use masters of magic "i am the fortress", then use hell lord and merge your two dimensions together and integrate SCP 2400 as well, for infinite space.

An Avatar, bending not blue aliens, question.

If you take both jumps, it's possible to bend two different elements. What are some good ways to pick up the other two? Are there any? I'd like to hear your thoughts.

>>54942942

>I Want to Go Back
As mentioned not sure how this'll play out exactly. Sort of hope I don't have to be a baby again but that seems to be what this does and I'd like more time to play in the setting which is actually pretty fun and has some magic/fighting techniques that are worth discovering.

>Green Hair 1000
Doesn't actually stop me from trying to improve the popular opinion of Supards so I'll probably go that route. Not likely to get universal appeal but eventually I'll probably carve out a kingdom of other misfits or something. Don't much care for the aesthetic either to be honest but it can't be helped. I feel like a lot of the histories in my chain have been spent being persecuted for one thing or another.

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>>54942644
Parts of this idea have serious merit. If you create a fall guy to serve as the focus of the Jack the ripper myth, heroic spirit loli-jack will never exist. leaving you with the daughter and some other bastard with the prison/throne sentence.

>>54942829
>I also don't think the Hell Lord dimension counts as "a place of ritual significance" you can attune yourself to, or that just because your place of power is in the Hell Lord dimension you get all the benefits of that instead of just the benefits of Place of Power (or whatever place you're attuned to).

I think that has to do with this free perk:

>Place of Power(0 CP):You have the ability to create a unique place of power aligned with your magic. The process is costless, but requires several days of attunement to the location along with ritual effort. Most wizards choose to place theirs within a highly defensible fortress, but all that is necessarily is the area of a small room. Within this place of power you are able to project spells across the entire world. More localized spells do not require use of a place of power, and once a spell is cast, you need not remain in the place in order to maintain it. You may not have more than one such place at a time.

Just grab the Tower of Fate or a Manse and place it in your Hell Lord dimension, attune to it and get the benefits of both the land the building.

It might bee cheesy, but most combos are.

>>54942923
Why would he even make them that fucking huge? That's ridiculous and inconvenient.

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>>54942991
Young Kotomine had to be convinced by Gilgamesh to backstab Tokiomi, and that was after many talks with Gil. It wasn't an instant thing. Young Kotomine is safer than Old Kotomine if you're looking to companion him and you don't have loyalty perks.

Still, though, be careful if you're going to companion him.

>>54943002
>it's possible to bend two different elements
sure, no problem

>What are some good ways to pick up the other two? Are there any?
with those two jumps alone, none
you can just pick up (more powerful) elemental control in other jumps
but Avatar has some creative use and special bending techniques, great Ki boosts and gives you the ability to knock out bending/ki flow, which is a great power gernally especially in settings like Naruto/dragonball

>>54942953
What would be some good dimensions to fuse anyway?

>>54943045
>Not liking big muscular men
>Shit taste

Seriously though, they have to be that big and strong to deal with daemons and orcs and wraithbone mecha and so on; threats the Emperor was aware of and had some insight into when he was making them.

>>54942993
Well one us has to be wrong and it's not going to be me. That would be ridiculous. We'll see, I guess. Would've sworn. Perhaps it was just mentioned that it might be and I tiredly mistook it as is.

>>54941346
About the Infernals update, and the Infernal Prayer Strips. Could calling down Orabulus's Rain of Molten Glass (the one that can be used as an attack, or a construction project, and is in fact both of these at the same time) be one of the strips

>>54943033
I'm aware of the perk, but as i said i don't interpret it that way.

According to my reading your example would get the power of the ToF because that's what you're attuned to.
You don't get Hell Lord benefits on top of it just because that's where the ToF happens to stand.

>>54942942
>which I'm not sure is a thing that exists.
They do, they are just hard to find on account of green hair demons basically being really really hated. Also as supard you already have green hair so the drawback is free points for you, having a family as a baby is a big deal because supard are super protective of the kids they have.

>>54942993
>>54943099
ValkyrieAnon is the one planning on making a Great Crusade jump that supposed to include a Primarch option.

>>54942923

Why does sangy look so sad in that picture?

Is this random fanart, or is it from an official story?

>>54943131
In Master of Magic itself, putting a Fortress in a magically-potent realm boosts the Fortress. And when put into a Pocket Dimension, the Tower of Fate's effects expand to encompass the whole realm. If that's not enough for you, then just add something like Two Worlder from Weakness of Beatrice to the combo.

>>54943131
In that case, why would you even get the benefits of the ToF? You seem to rationalize away the idea that the perk will do what it's supposed to do for one combo, why not stop acting like a dishonest fuck and admit that you don't believe it really does anything?

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Well since people were talking about it anyway, here's another scenario I was considering for Marvel Magic. I'm kinda iffy on it and I was considering an end-jump scenario version encompassing the entire universe instead. Anyway, thoughts?

Hell On Earth

Requirements: Hell Lord

The earth. This pitiful little blue marble that hangs suspended in an infinite void. And yet, time and time again, it has played a pivotal role in not only the universe, but the entirety of the multiverse. A nexus, a cosmic leyline, it is an important world among endless others.

It's little wonder, then, that so many covet it as they do.

From cosmic empires to warlords from the future to its own ambitious inhabitants, many have sought to claim the earth as their own – none among them so much as the various great demon kings and degenerate gods of old. And yet, time and time again, they have been foiled by gods or sorcerers, bands of misfits or their own incompetence.

But you would rise above these lessers, doing what they could not. You will have this world as your own, no matter the dangers and does you face.

To emerge victorious, you must subsume the earth into your Hell Dimension and hold it there for one year's time. Accomplishing this will require you weakening ancient spells to ward off such attempts hidden around the world, before enacting your own grand rituals to pull this world into yours. Along the way you are likely to be found out and hounded by any number of heroes or rivals – foremost among them the Sorcerer Supreme, who is likely to be one Steven Strange, and Doctor Victor Von Doom, the dangerous lord of Latveria.

Succeeding in this task will allow you to keep the earth – along with everyone and everything on it – in your Hell Dimension, where it will follow you along your future adventures.

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>>54943113
Sure. I had that as one of the effects I was considering to add for the strips anyhow.

>>54943131
That's not how it works. The Fortress perk would give you the benefits of whatever you've selected as your fortress and if that happens to be the Hell Lord dimension, then that's how it works.

>>54943131
Well, then I guess we are just down to opinions.

>>54943246
He is not happy of being used as a replacement of his father and the heresy in general.

And it's oficial. I think form one of the novels, don't remember exactly which.

>>54942829
Most "places of ritual significance" are built on areas of magical power. What do you think the Dimension Lord dimension is? It's pretty much just a big-ass leyline.

>>54943286
>More empires that follow you

All of my yes.

>>54943286
Oh god this is going to be difficult, then again I am not sure if I would want it considering the kind of crazy everyone there is. Thanks Jack.

>>54943085

it's this >>54942998 combo

the jumpmaker of the DC occult jump (cracker jack) said in this thread http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51173863/#51179197, that you could potentionally fanwank it so that your magic power boost increases if you can expand your dimension

>anon: Theoretically, since you're drawing on the world's magical power, would you be able to get a bigger boost by increasing the size of the world?
>cracker jack: Fanwank. That does sound reasonable, though

with the fusion of SCP 2400 which is an infinite blank space you have now fanwanked your magic power boost to infinity

>>54943273
Do i tell you how to fanwank your chain?This is a rhetorical question. The answer is no, i don't.
I simply don't like god-mode combos, so i fanwank that it doesn't work that way IN MY CHAIN.
I think i made it very clear that that's MY INTERPRETATION and that i don't give a shit how anyone else reads it.

Now fuck off and bother someone else.

>>54943286
will be difficult to pull off.
Does that "just" include earth based heroes/villains fighting me or will i attract the attention of sky fathers, galactus and/or other entities?

>>54943002
Inukami, Bionicle, Teen Titans, Samurai Jack, Young Justice, Marvel, Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and X-Men Movies all have element manipulation powers. You can easily pick up the two elements you missed plus more from any of them.

>>54943286
Does it matter which earth we're on?

>>54943428
Well if we are going that way do not forget to grab Zenith Tempest sacred gear in Highschool DxD

>>54943002
Well, you could pick up that Human capstone from Jorge Joestar which allows you to have multiple things you could normally only get one of and get it straight from the Lion Turtles. Of course, for all but the Energybending turtle you'd need some form of time-travel to be able to meet with them.

>>54943478
>get it straight from the Lion Turtles
Supposing you could time travel, how easy would it be to get it from them?

>>54943428
Or you could just Real Eater Poseidon's Chosen from Saint Seiya into different elements and abuse Sacrificial Bestowment and allies until you catch em all. :^)

>>54943538
If you're going that route, just use a combination of Primal Zerg and Hellsing's vampirism to eat powerful benders and get it that way.

>>54943538
>>54943377
If you are just going to shitpost, you can just leave.

>>54943518
with time travel pretty easy i suppose.
the first avatar just went two 4 different turtles, each of which gifted one element to the humans living on their backs

>>54943518
They gave them out to humans when they left their cities, as a form of protection, so not that hard. I think they might also be able to detect if you have a form of bending already, so it could be a good idea to pick up something like My from Infernals first if you don't have a few charisma perks. Won did it after all, but he had Raava with him... Of course, you can get an Origin Spirit in Korra which improves your relationship with spiritual beings.

>>54943286
I like it but I did not take hell lord so I am sad.

>>54943586
>>54943601
Time travel isn't a problem, so if it is just walking up to them and asking nicely / making a case for why you need it, then that's awesome.

>>54943560
The Ultimate Lifeform works as well. :^)

>>54943582
Since when is pointing out valid combos shitposting? Did I trigger you when I said "Real Eater"? Real Eater. Real. Eater. REAL EATER. Reeaaaaaaal Eaaater!

>>54943625
>Didn't take hell lord
What kind of a pleb tier idiot are you?

>>54943633
You also need some way to hold all those powers within you without being torn apart. Wan was only able to do it because he had bonded with the ancient spirit of light, so you should probably get some kind of magic/spirit absorption powers or some other supernatural protection just in case.

>>54943427
>>54943339
Not really? Just get an anti-plot armor perk and you are golden. People are always saved from cosmic threats in Earth by sheer luck or stupidity from the villain's part.

>>54943756
Good idea, thanks.

>>54943665
>Ultimate Lifeform
I love Val, I love her jumps, but I have a tendency to avoid the larger shistorms whenever possible so I don't know anything about that perk or what it does.

>>54943721
Not that anon, but Skyfather a best

>>54943427
I doubt the Skyfathers are likely to get involved unless you give them personal reason to, but more involved gods like Thor and Hercules probably will if they notice you as a threat.

Galactus is unlikely to even notice unless he bumbles into it looking for a meal while you're in the middle of trying to steal it.

Some other Hell Lords might try to intervene or take over your plans for themselves – Dormammu in particular would be likely to try since this is his plan like half the time he shows up.

Gaia might also try something – which would be pretty bad for you since elder gods are usually portrayed as batting in the same weight tier as Galactus – but usually she doesn't do shit directly and instead empowers someone else or tries to bargain with the threat to make them go away.

>>54943459
I would think it would need to be the one you start on. Not sure if it would necessarily be 616 if you take certain drawbacks?

>>54943538
I wonder if this combination would let you eat Elizabeth and gain Quantum manipulation powers?

>>54943801
there is a perk in shadow realms that does exactly what you need. chaos mage first perk if i recall.

>>54943286
...That is really cool. Not sure if I'd want to take Marvel Earth with me, but still really damn cool.

Would there be a scenario for some of the other 1000cp perks then? Like Skyfather?

Also...
>Succeeding in this task will allow you to keep the earth – along with everyone and everything on it – in your Hell Dimension, where it will follow you along your future adventures.
Does the Hell Dimension get bigger from this too? Because it starts out the size of a city, and I'm guessing it would take an absurd amount of souls to fit a planet in there...

>>54943801
The Human capstone from Jorge Joestar also protects from what that anon was talking about.

Where to find more information on Sinanju from the Wuxia jump?

>>54943949
It's from the Remo Williams books, so search for those. The movie is pretty hilarious too

>>54943949
IIRC that's from the 'The Destroyer' series of novels. Also the old Remo Williams movie.

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Well, here's the latest version of my jump again. I'm open to feedback and criticism, so please let me know if anything is still wrong with the jump document.

>>54944003
Changelog?

Someone a while ago posted a persona named after a Greek god (I think) that was really just a ball of darkness and looked nothing like the god, does someone know what persona I'm talking about?

>>54943833
Wait...doesn't this mean I would have to worry about Doom and others constantly trying to take over the world after I complete the scenario?

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>>54944028
Prometheus?

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Digger handed me Smile World to work on. I can take snapshots of logs if shitposters start throwing a fit.

Expect it sometime soonish, I guess.

I've never played darksouls and the story and backround seems a bit confusing so I'd like to ask here:
how threatening the world is to a fairly seasoned Jumper?
I've seen the final boss and it doesn't seem like much, is there some soul related danger in there?

>>54943834
Nah, the Lutece particles are fiatlocked outside the jump

>>54943833
What would a child of Oshtur's physical stats be like?

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>>54943852
>Would there be a scenario for some of the other 1000cp perks then? Like Skyfather?
Maybe. I'm trying to write a bunch of scenarios and see what sticks.

Skyfather could maybe be that you have to build your own pantheon that becomes followers?

The human one I really don't know what would be beyond some kind of Doom-inspired "conquer or unite the world under your rule", but that seems to close to the Hell Lord one I just posted, so I dunno.

>Does the Hell Dimension get bigger from this too?
Yeah. Big enough to accommodate the earth. And the moon too, maybe?

>>54944102
If you leave them alive and let them stay in there... probably so, yeah. Though at that point they're fighting you on your own turf, so it becomes juuuust a teensy bit harder.

>>54944136
Nice. Will Ghostricks be a thing?

>>54944003
Well, I think it's basically the same version of the last time I submitted it a few days back, since no one responded to that one.

The water issue has hopefully been resolved by me deciding to set up a post-chain bonus, so I'm hoping we don't need to get into my earlier failure.

I've adjusted the price for the Plug, added a little more info to the Awakened Shadow perk and the Arabian Nights Plus One item, and I enhanced the Where the Mountains Meet the Sea perk so there are more benefits from it.

I think those, along with a couple more drawbacks I came up with, are all the major changes that I recall making of late.

>>54944171
I'd imagine it'd be a good deal less than Thor's, seeing as Oshtur's whole thing is being a magic expert and energy being an all that. But then if so you'd more than make up for it with increased magical/domain power. And you'd still be pretty damn stronk.

>>54944144
What do the particles themselves have to do with her powers? I am not arguing that you can get her powers, I just don't see there being a direct link.
Also, they should still be useable to create levitating buildings if you purchase the perk, maybe even without if you are smart enough.

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>>54944206
Yep. They'll be a thing.

>>54944221
Can you not be an energy being?

>>54944025
>>54944207
Sorry, I accidentally quoted the wrong post when replying to you.

>>54944221
>increased magical/domain power
Do you have a good benchmark for that? I mean, I'm just assuming it's probably less than Agamotto considering he's at or above Oshtur's level.

>>54944003
Why can't the Guppees just blow up the Chupawalas with their P2C2Es?

Will of the Dreamer could use some explaination on what it actually does, is this more like not going insane in Wonderland or actually using wishful thinking as a building material?

I never did get an answer last time: For Story Pollution, are you just making people sad, ending narrative forces with boredom or channeling some sort of world-ending force? Depending on what it is exactly the "void of oblivion" takes on different degrees of danger.

I'm not sure how I feel about a Drop-In capstone perk booster, seems a little OTB. I'm still not convinced it's comparable to the power to kill worlds with boredom or build FTL magical birdbots.

Post-Chain: Generally post-chain have some reasonable basis in the narrative they're about; the reward fo the drawback in Devil Survivor 2 is based on the multiverse-overseeing computer that already exists in canon for example. From what you've said there's really no reason to believe that water can affect entire multiverses, especially ones with their own narrative defence mechanisms. I'd axe that part, and just leave it as a wish that uses the moon thing as a feat.

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>>54944244
Yes! I can now companion the only deck I have.

>>54944267
Yeah? You probably wouldn't start as an energy being anyway.

>>54944303
Magically what Thor is physically?

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>>54944120
Yeah, that was it. Have a smug loli as a thanking gift.

>>54944312
But can you choose not to develop into one?

>>54943174
>drawback is free points for you

I think if I hadn't taken the drawback I'd be able to shapeshift my hair into a normal colour easily.

With the drawback I think if I shape-shifted into a cat I'd probably be a green cat.

>>54944222
If I remember correctly, her finger being chopped off by the portal gave her a connection with the same quantum superposition phenomena the actual Luteces enjoy-and they got theirs from their own invention blowing up in their face. Lutece particles are the thing that let multiverse portals happen in the first place, so it's classic comic book science.

And yeah, they can do other things too.

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Jump # 190 Haruhi
Age: 16
Gender: Female
Origin: Slider (0)
Perks:
*Hidden Intentions (0)
*It’s Called Moe (50) This is going to backfire hard isn’t it
*Humanity is infectious (100)
*Almighty Leader (50)
*Rolled Good life stats (100)
*Diverse Deadpan Snarker (0)
*Parallel Bleed (100, Discount)
*The not so great will (500)
Companions
*Spinoff Series (200)
Drawbacks:
*Orange Armband Second in Command (+100)

Companions
*Akitsu, Arcueid, Tamamo, Yu Bel, Doom-chan, She of Fair Eyes, Makoto, Sans
Origin: Slider
Perks:*Diverse Deadpan Snarkers, Not so great will, Rolled good life stats

(to be continued)

>>54944346
Well this was 10 years of Hell. Ok let me just say I think I came closer to death (along with the rest of the universe) than I ever have in the rest of my chain.

Haruhi very quickly volunteered me and my companions for her group.

So my wives are very protective and some a little yandere at points. Haruhi treated me worse than Mikuru in that she was with the molestation and the dressing me in skimpy outfits. I only allowed this because Haruhi is an insane reality warper… and somehow I had to keep my wives from trying to kill her. That was not fun or easy. It definitely required superhuman charisma to keep things from exploding.

I got to have a fun chat with Kyon about being a slider/jumper (It seemed like the thing to do) I got to show off some powers, he got to see an actual light saber which he really liked.

So we were dragged along by Hurricane Haruhi as she did whatever she wanted and we fallowed along.

We even got stuck going to the same collage as her. It’s amazing how much effort it took in maintaining the status quo. I tried every now and then to interject some mystery in to things to keep her busy so she wouldn’t get bored. When she got bored we all suffered. Better to create fake mysteries… that totally didn’t get out of hand and become real mysteries.

I also had to prevent doom chan from trying to steal Haruhi’s powers…. Female or not she is still Dr. Doom and probably was the second scariest person in the universe.

I also had to help Kyon when one of the other factions decided to become more proactive or Haruhi got bored enough she subconsciously decided to erase anything… Poor Kyon wound up married to her. I still feel bad about that. I feel worse when it became unknown if her daughter had inherited her mothers’ power. Thankfully that was about at the end of our stay and I didn’t have to stay and find out how that turned out. I was tempted to pod Kyon just to give him a break from things but he refused the offer

>>54944335
Sure. Would probably be something you'd have to choose, anyway. And there wouldn't be any real reason you couldn't assume a physical form even if that was something you did since the more powerful gods/demons and similar beings seem to be able to swap back and forth.

>>54944141
You've got it, in terms of actually being killed from violence the things you'll fight are roughly on par with the Apostles from Berserk. It's hard to tell if the most powerful beings are on par or lesser than the Godhand because they're all severely degraded when you fight them, and in the game you're supposed to be monstrously powerful yourself at the time.

The real danger is the elemental forces the world is made of. Light is time, and can make illusions real enough to hurt. Fire tends to turn everything into demons when allowed to burn out of control, and can bond with other elements to become more destructive. The darkness within humanity is a tangible force of entropy, corruption and spatial warping that's also a vital part of the world somehow.

>>54944322
Would it be redundant then if you take Skyfather?

>>54944172
>Maybe. I'm trying to write a bunch of scenarios and see what sticks.
Alright. I'm enjoying them so far.

>Skyfather could maybe be that you have to build your own pantheon that becomes followers?
That seems cool. Though, considering the Skyfather perk gives you the ability to make gods, I'm not sure how challenging that'd be?

Maybe you'd need specific types of people/gods (like, say, convincing some superheroes/villains to accept divinity under you), or maybe they have to /earn/ it in some way themselves (with you having to set up harsh tests/tasks and only allowed to help indirectly?), or maybe you'd need to snipe gods from the other pantheon (convince Loki or Thor your pantheon's much cooler?).

Or maybe a combination of some/all of the above...?

>The human one I really don't know what would be beyond some kind of Doom-inspired "conquer or unite the world under your rule", but that seems to close to the Hell Lord one I just posted, so I dunno.
Fair enough, yeah. It might need something more distinctive.

Anyway...
>Yeah. Big enough to accommodate the earth. And the moon too, maybe?
Nice. I'd like to take the moon too, yes. For the tides and all that, as well as it being quieter and less insane (oh god, all the superheroes running around in my hell dimension).

So, Double Cross. The Renegade virus fatality rate. While exact numbers aren't given, the Advanced Rulebook states that while 80% of the world are carrier only a "small number" of people have the potential to become Overed, and of those half will become Gjaum.

So, when a drawback states that you only have the things you buy in that jump, does that remove BodyMod as well, or is BodyMod your base form and you keep that as a minimum?

>>54943833
Does Power of Jumper's work retroactively (i.e. past stuff you've "acquired" works as it it were yours)?

>>54944304
I think a big part of that is that the Guppees are normally pacifists. When they capture Haroun's dad and think he's a spy, they worry that their plan to punish him by making him write "I must not spy" 1001 times is too harsh. They aren't that big on war and the like. Plus, they can sometimes be shortsighted, so it might not have occurred to them; it took Haroun, who has some real world logic, to come up with the idea of changing the moon's rotation.

Will of the Dreamer- Mostly I meant it to mean several things: first, that you can get a grip of the flow in strange dreams; second, that you can find unorthodox ways that dream beings wouldn't be able to think of; and third, that you can stay strong and hopeful even in nightmares; I was sort of figuring things out as I went along when writing it.

Mountains-Sea- Sorry, this was one of the perks I had a little trouble writing. Overall, Drop-In was my toughest to figure out. I'm still trying to think if there's any way to improve it more, but I just don't know.

Story Pollution- Well, the warning was mostly so people don't do the stupid thing of helping Khattum-Shud succeed. Story Pollution would make people who dream those stories depressed/sick, but it could have larger, devastating effects in worlds where dreams/stories help keep the world alive (Gensokyo, Discworld, etc.). Sorry I wasn't the clearest before.

Keep in mind that there's 2 levels to the post-chain wish. The multiverse version is only if you achieve your Spark; if you just end the chain by some other means like going home or staying in a jump, you get a watered down version of the wishwater.

>>54944486
>or is BodyMod your base form and you keep that as a minimum
That's how it was SUPPOSED to be, but some jumpmakers have screwed with that formula, so it's not always a given.

Is Konosuba a Isekai ?

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>>54944206
>>54944244
>>54944306
Friendly reminder that the Ghostrick 'world' is both adorable and comfy.

>>54943286
SBer.

>>54944509
Yes, it's a parody of Isekai, but it is an Isekai.

>>54937515
They do but the jump continues for a few years after the grail war ends.

>>54937614
Mhm.

>>54937624
No, that's just in jump but before you leave the Fate jump you got them. post jump they get living bodies and become companions, as is detailed in the jump and supplement.

>>54937672
Performs extremely well against multiple Servants and could win almost all his battles if he didn't dislike the idea of just spamming Gae Bolg 6 times in a row.

>>54937693
The ones where I've already gotten an amazingly powerful companion and can still get drawbacks to get much more CP?

>>54937720
I mean, I did kinda pointe out in jump these aren't crazy alien vampires. They're definitely powerful in their own ways but they're not anime vampires.

>>54940436
To be fair, reading that perk as is technically makes it impossible for it to do anything and it still hasn't been fixed. Breaking one rule almost always necessitates breaking another somehow since a lot of them are linked. At least from what I remember when it was brought up a long ass time ago

>>54942803
You should take every version of him you can find. But old Kotomine is best.

>>54944494
>Will of the Dreamer
>Mountains-Sea

Alright, I'm not sure how to keep explaining this but: This still seems really, really underwhelming compared to a science to teleport water from a magical land to the real world, or the power to curse an entire world with depression.

I wish I could help, but from what I've seen nobody but you here has read the book. Including myself.

>Story Pollution

I see, that clears that up.

>post-chain wish

I understand the 2 levels concept just fine, I still stand by my point with regards to the Spark one.

What is the rational for it? Every other post-Spark reward I know of had some canonical basis for the scope of it's reward, instead of just adding a note in Archer that says you can now force everyone in the multiverse to listen to your sarcasm forever if you achieve your Spark.

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>>54944546

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>>54944172
>The human one I really don't know what would be beyond some kind of Doom-inspired "conquer or unite the world under your rule", but that seems to close to the Hell Lord one I just posted, so I dunno.

What about starting as a villain and having everyone recognize you as the greatest hero? Maybe do it while having a massive ego drawback.

>>54944575
>Kotomine
>"Rejoice, Jumper! For -"
>"Will you shut up about that for once? We're just taking a Hollywood vacation!"

>>54944578
>Every other post-Spark reward I know of had some canonical basis for the scope of it's reward
Oh, you mean like the "Omnipotent" Grail War wishes which in canon can't even do something if the wisher doesn't know how to achieve it?

>>54944575
>Performs extremely well against multiple Servants
Not really? Compare his stats to the stats of more modern Servants. Cuchullain is pretty bottom tier these days.

>>54944622
Didn't Val change those so they're not omnipotent? And they also have a bunch of characters in universe repeatedly say that they are all powerful and can grant anything?

>>54944575
>I mean, I did kinda pointe out in jump these aren't crazy alien vampires
My complaint was more because of all the drawbacks to them. You would never want to be this kind of vampire if it wasn't mandatory.

>>54944172
>The human one I really don't know what would be beyond some kind of Doom-inspired "conquer or unite the world under your rule", but that seems to close to the Hell Lord one I just posted, so I dunno.
Becoming God-Emperor of the Universe?

>>54944578
Mostly I thought that this would be a more appropriate level for earning your Spark, and I needed something higher than the regular post-chain one since the challenge level is different. I'm open to suggestions.

For Drop-In, maybe something creating a "bridge" between stories and reality? I'm not sure how that would work though; any thoughts on that approach?