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>>54901023
Dammit OP you're gonna get us litigated!

>>54901528
HG has no standing to sue anybody over a 'Mech from Dougram.
Admittedly, that might not stop them, because they're FUCKING ASSHOLES that way....

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>>54901528
>>54901600
>Implying the issue is not this clearly infringing biped design

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>>54901528
>>54901600
>>54901703
I fear no one! Charge up the linear cannon! Not even justice, I want to get a hamburger!

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>>54901600
>Admittedly, that might not stop them, because they're FUCKING ASSHOLES that way....

They can fuck with Kawamori but you can bet your ass they wouldn't dare touch Okawara's stuff. There's a certain line even the biggest idiot around wouldn't pass and this is definitely well beyond that line.

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>>54902345
Just googled Okawara.
Much as we'd all LOVE to see HG make the fatal mistake of going after THE Gundam designer, I have to agree that their reaction is more likely to be [pic related]. Sadly.

What kind of heavies were the Lyrans manufacturing in the years between 3026 and 3050?

>>54902812
>Just googled Okawara.

It's funny when you realize how many people shit on MSG and pointing out how much better the people doing VOTOMS, Macross or Dougram were.
Then you realize that Macross was created by a group called Gundam Fan Club that wanted to parody it and all the other big names were done by the very same guy who had designed Gundam itself in the first place.

>>54903245
Riflemen, Cruds, Thuds, Archers, Whammies, and MADs, with the Axman entering production in 3048.

One of their two Rifleman lines was on Twycross and the Thuds and Whammies were made on Sudeten, so those lines would later be lost to the Falcons, who would even later revive the Thud line to make Thud IICs.

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Huh. Quiet day on /btg/. How many conference calls were *you* guys in this morning?

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>>54905199
Half a dozen.

Just spreading the good Word of Blake to all I can.

>>54905199
Just one, rest of morning trying not to shit my brains out. I also never get sick so I'm extra cranky.

In better and BT related news, I've been having a ton of fun just rolling RATs with the g/f mostly med v med lances all eras.

>>54905199
I'm prepping for GenCon, then going to work, then doing further GenCon prep. I'm busy. Also I mostly lurk anyway. /btg/ is pretty slow these days in general though, so not much has changed really.

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>>54905234
>my gf gets into the game
>only ever wants to play as Clanner

>>54905315
I let her a lot, I still win.
I made an off handed sexist remark girls can't play war games etc. I don't really play video games or anything she does, I crushed her at any total war series game (2/3s I literally never played) chess etc.
So she knows it makes me happy to play some BT and she's got a grudge to settle so kinda win win for me.

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>>54905315
Get a Drac gf. Any girl willing to play Dracs is probably worth putting a ring on.

>>54905356
Damn, how much hardened armor did you put on those things?

>>54905508
Looks like they lost more than one running MP.

>>54905356
And people think the Dracs producing tons of the same design is a bad thing...

>>54905356
Post more Kurita mechs with lots of frontal armour please

When it comes to favorite regiments, does anyone here like any of the DCMS's District Regular Forces?

They seem like such flavorless mooks at first glance it makes me wonder if anyone has a favorite out of any of the Regulars.

Even ignored factions like the Free Worlds League has flavorful mooks like the Second Oriente Hussars,

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>>54906494
I do, I do. They're like janitors, no-one ever notices them. But they still deserve love. I see them as super-strict, ordered-ranks spick and span perfect uniformity units of very proud and dedicated carreer soldiers. Kinda like modern Japanese cops. And I consider them likely to have higher veterancy levels than the Regulars on the other side of their borders, considering the immensely military-focused, martial arts-like personal skill focused society.

But then again they have wonderful bunglecunt rules thrown at them for no raisins, too.

"Historical Turning Points: Galtor
When facing pirates or other small-scale raiders (company-sized or smaller), the Fifth Galedon gains a +1 to their Initiative; when fighting in urban settings, the Fifth suffer a –1 penalty to their To-Hit rolls and automatically fail PSRs to avoid skidding."

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>>54906494

FWL has tons of cool units. the 1st and 2nd KOTIS, the Silver Hawk Irregulars, the First Defenders of Andurien, and the aforementioned Second Oriente Hussars. There are a fair number of cool FWL units.

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>>54907419
Your pic is of Regulan Hussars.

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>>54907364
>when fighting in urban settings, the Fifth suffer a –1 penalty to their To-Hit rolls and automatically fail PSRs to avoid skidding
Oh, how I have abused these rules before. Key up the music and give me sixteen Salad Shooters boys, we're going in dry!
I was "disinvited" from playing OPFOR for the rest of the 3039 campaign as punishment for keying up this soundtrack on my phone at the beginning of turn 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJclFTnw0Ds

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>>54907651
Nigga, you kurita as kuso.

>>54906494

22nd Deiron and 17th Benjamin are kinda cool.

The district forces do play second fiddle to elites like the SoL or Ryuken a lot more than any other faction though, and aside from the Dieron Regulars they are presented as ultra derp because they get beaten like red-haired stepchildren all the time.

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>>54907704
You can't do race/sports drifting and not be doing an inherently Japanese thing, he might as well go along with it.

I'm kind of bummed no one ever picked up the Japanese version of Battelech.
The game was dated as all hell for the market,
but those designs are so unique they deserved at least some recognition beyond a few books and not even a single official model.

>>54901023
is anybody here from last night when we were talking about the sky fortress?

>>54907651
They are like that team that fights the Harlem Globetrotters.

Are Drac's honorable?

>>54905356
dawww, thats so cute, they stuffed their bra.

I'm kind of wondering if I really need to do all the perverted stuff I fantasize about with my girlfriend. Maybe its better to have a pure waifu.

>>54901023
Since all asian.. er, i mean anime women look alike, the only way to tell them apart is their personality.

>>54909169
you in the right thread m8?

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What are your favorite Star League WarShips?

I found this pic and it has me wanting to talk about them.

NEA, you still visit here?

>>54909109
Well, on the paper, but every time they face the good guys they sort of... devolve into a villainous yellow devil comedy routine. Most often when they betray someone, they betray their own people, though. I dunno if it evens that shit out?

>>54909587
Can't the Dracs be depicted as a multifaceted people? When I think of Japan Bros today, I think more like gym shorts and club jerseys, black Lexus-i and straight up americana.

I feel like Japan Bros are maybe losing their culture a bit. I mean the fascist racist stereotype may be a bit crude, but there is respect there. Respect for the enemy, his traditions, his people.

#notayigger

Eggrolls and Kimonos!
The south shall rise again!

>>54909822
Well, while I don't get half you're saying even while drunk, I'd say it all rots on the duplicity of the writing. On one hand we are sold the supremely honorable nippers that seek honorable death in combat, but nigh on every single piece of prose regarding them depicts bumbling, effete habitual evildoers. The respect for the opponent is there in the unit descriptions, but it never manifests in action. Same goes on competence, albeit even worse.

One of the oddest quirks of drac history is that they enacted what is probably the greatest act of charity on their enemies by single-handedly creating the omnimechs that would become the inner sphere general omnimech base. They just fought tooth and nail to strip the secrets from the clans, and once they succeeded, they somehow unambitiously disseminated them all throughout the sphere.

>>54909465
no, but i'm here.
battleships aren't really my bag though.

>>54909976
What warships do you like?

>>54909934
sorry, its just an aside, culturally related anecdote.

As to the dracs themselves, I think they need more than good mechs. I think they need good writing.

>>54909994
You mean in game, or in real life?

I don't know jack about ironsides. Everything I know is about the modern navy. Basically you have carriers, cruisers, submarines and destroyers, they form our active naval defense grid. We generally use carriers to suppress hostilities in countries we have a vested interest in. By the time air strikes are called in, the fighting has already started, and small (usually very small) armor columns are about to be engaged or already have been.

We used to do pre-emptive strikes against facilities we suspected of manufacturing wmd's, but that all blew apart once Bush Jr. decided to play cowboy and make his daddy rich.

>>54909822
Dracs are a tremendously multifaceted people. They just got a permanent costume party going on in everyday life. This is much more obvious in the days where they still had Rasalhague and Dieron was actually worth something.

>>54910112
In places we already have an established military presence, (which is now about 2/3's of the entire world) we use far more questionable tactics to suppress conflict and hostilities.

Some might even say we cause more hostilities through our overzealous oppression than we would if we took a more laze' faire approach to defense. But we gotta protect those ecomonic interests! (Wink wink, nudge nudge)

#notallDavions

>>54910112
I mean Star League ships.

>>54910135
Okay, hows this sound for a plot hook?

A former Davion World near Terra that is now part of the dominion and takes the chaos and fighting along its border to reveal that during the reign of the RotS, it had been stockpiling and manufacturing vast quantities of military aerospace, right under the republics noses.

>>continued

>>54909465
Star League warships are by and large, underarmored, undergunned, fleet cores.

In terms of ship to ship combat, the Farragut, McKenna and Texas were always the meanest hombres I've seen on the table.

>>54910296
>the dominion
*the RotS

>>54910296
So while the Kurita's and Davions are fighting near the chaos march, out of nowhere this planet declares its independance and starts contracting massive amounts of aerospace support to both sides, escalating and prolonging the conflict and being known for causing massive amounts of collateral damage and civilian casualties.

The kuritans decide they have had enough, and decide to land a contingent on that planet to shut down or capture aerospace manufacturing on the planet.

But its got this absurd tactical defense networked with a mobile sky fortress to coordinate its huge (200+) aerospace contingent and prevent people from landing.

>>continued

>>54909109

>Are Drac's honorable?
>honourable
>written as repeatedly slaughtering and enslaving civilians
>honourable
>written as executing all POWs
>honourable

>>54909465

Aegis is still a favourite.

>>54910311

All the Texas has in its favour is the armour. Its firepower is pretty bad and the gaps in coverage over the nose and, IIRC aft, arcs means it can be picked apart if you position yourself properly. It's not as flawed now that ECHO is an option, but it's still very ordinary.

>>54910418

I know you're invested in this idea, but 200 ASFs is more than some of the large Periphery nations have. Let alone an air force over 200 in strength.

I would make it an SLDF wunderwaffen that was mostly forgotten over time instead.

>>54910418
The air fortress projects force across half the planets orbital dome, so that any approach towards the planet has to be at an almost impossible approach vector towards the rear of the defense grid, a swampy landmass near the poles where what little water collects is deposited.

The rest of the planet is an extremely arid desert with with thin oxygen and so little humidity that a few days exposure without a respirator will result in death.

>>54910526
Whatever, the point is its huge, its got to look and seem huge. They have been building and stockpiling in secret for over 50 years, when they declared independance they were sitting on a goldmine and decided to exploit the wall falling in the worse way possible, by carving out their own little empire in the chaos march.

>>54910526
>I would make it an SLDF wunderwaffen that was mostly forgotten over time instead.

that kind of defeats the purpose. The whole point is that they are using the conflict between the Davions and the Kuritans to forge a tiny little empire right near the heart of terra, and are using it to prey on their neighbors through piracy and banditry.

Their declaring independence from the RotS only prolongs the war and leads to more suffering.

so basically

>RotS moves in
>Takes over former Davion Planet
>Planet begins stockpiling aerospace in secret while everybody else is decommissioning their militaries
>Castle Doctrine declared
>Left in middle of fight between Davion and Kurita
>Declares independance
>Banditry, War Profiteering and Air Piracy
>Starts playing both sides
>Massive Collateral Damage and Civilian Casualties
>Kurita says, "fuck dis shitto,"; decides planets aerospace must be captured or destroyed
>A-Team theme song on casio keyboard

>>54910742
Thats not even the best part

Team A
>Planet has no moon
>Aerospace bases and defense all over ground
>Massive aerospace sky fortress
>Projects force across 75% of the planets orbit
>Has its own dropship collar, hanger bays
>Actually has LAM's (fucking LAMS!)

Team B
>Has a supermech with 2 HAGs 40's, 4 SLRM 15's, and five indepentantly targeted TAG's
>Has contingent of 5 Arrow IV yellowjackets, with 2 resupply cargo helicopters
>Has 2 ten ton "cargo containers" to represent retractable docking clamps and loading bays on the mech
>Can carry extra Arrow IV ammo or load ammo INTO the mech as well

>>54910856
contined

Team B
>Has an augmented battalion.
>full company of lurm boat vees with semi-guided
>one forwards spotting company (mechs, hovercraft and super cheap vtols)
>one guard contingent company (mechs)
>rear guard company to protect lurm boats (mechs, anti air vees)
>No aerospace support
>Leapfrogs from base to base wrecking aerospace

>>54910856
Team A
>12 LAM's divided into 2 teams of 6
>full company of Davion mechs
>Crazy amounts of aerospace

>>54910986

>team A loads nukes in their LAMs
>team B wiped out wholesale
>gg no re faggots

>>54911179
no way dude, nukes will cause Kuritans AND the Davions to come down hard.

>>54910856
>LAMS!!
>LAAAAMS!!!

Pardon, but aren't laser anti-missile systems no big deal by the time the RoS/DA rolls around?

>>54910986
I dunno, Team A is looking a little light on ground forces.

Suggestions?

>>54911239

Land-Air 'Mechs.

Because it wasn't already sue enough to have a flying fortress and more ASF than guard capitol worlds for major states, I guess.

>>54911239
Team B
>Supermech has two weaknesses
>an ammo explosion in its loading bay will cripple it, destroying the feed linkages for that side of the mech
>there is an exploit in its programming that will allow Team A to jam open its two Laser AMS with a ECM exploit so that it can't be deactivated, preventing it from firing all its weapons.

>>54911261
Go roll on your RAT's

>>54911261
>fuck this hater

>>54911245
Maybe a shitload of hovercraft?

Team B
>Has to resupply from enemy bases and orbital supply caches dropped near target areas
>Is stranded with no support until they destroy 50% of the ground bases
>Has to travel through a large swamp, into an rocky, arid desert steppes, along narrow canyons and ridgelines to avoid radar detection

>>54911432
Team A
>Engaged in massive aerospace battle in orbit
>Sends dropship and ground forces to intercept Team B
>Can Scramble aerospace at anytime, anywhere on the planet

>>54910742
>>RotS moves in
*RotS moves in after Jihad

>>54911351
Saladshooters upgraded with Clantech gauss or LBX20s.

Summary of my 'Tism

https://pastebin.com/hz2hpCxe

>>54911868
It might not make a good campaign, but it'd make a great story.

Am I retarded or has no one posted the Crescent hawks source book in the OP? I can't seem to find it and I haven't even started drinking yet.

>>54911868
And if you need to peddle it back a bit, the sky fortress was a formerly civilian installation built for civilian aerospace, and the supermech was a mothballed, unfinished unit that was rushed into production and finished under time constraints.

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Wew now. GenCon news finally dropping

> New boxed sets finally mocked up

> TRO: Succession Wars
Combines all the shit scattered through '50, 39, '58, and '75 so we can finally use one book for the era.

>>54912049
>>54911868
okay, i'm done.

i'll post the pastebin link later a few more times.

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I made a rendition of the Ragnarok from MechAssault and figured I'd toss it up here. Opinions or no, w/e.

>>54913123
Not a lot of ammo for a 100 tonner. I don't know. I'd have problems in extended conflicts, but if it's dealign with just one enemy, it could be a pain in the ass.

>>54913123
I mean, I guess.
But it felt like a superheavy, to me.

>>54912143
The TRO was actually released last month. No one in btg bothered to upload it. I am very curious about the new art some of the mechs have...

>>54912143
Christ, fucking finally.
here's hoping it doesn't get pulled in the impending scuffle with HG

>>54907651
>not going with "gas gas gas"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atuFSv2bLa8

>>54914666
I imagine it was probably meant to be longer, and mainly be a vehicle for getting the disputed designs back into printed canon, but... well, whatever might have been intended, HG happened and reality ensued.

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>>54911963
ok now I'm drunk and can't find it.

If I can't get whole thing, I want to see the Rex Pierce bio.

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>>54909994
Leviathan 3

>>54916002
So you like unkillable stuff that wipe half of entire SL era fleet alone.

I bet you like Gausswalls aswell.

Since warships are topic and I'm not ready for bed, what are the charger, t-bolt (any 3025 era) and archer of warships?

>>54916017
Why wouldn't I like to win?

>>54916067

Charger: Defender.
Thunderbolt: Aegis/Black Lion.
Archer: Difficult to say. The Quixote is the most missile-heavy ship though.

>>54916117
Thanks! I don't really do warships but fun to learn.

>>54916146

I guess I can expand a bit.

The Defender has anaemic ranged firepower, but is extremely fast for a vessel of its size. It's also very frail.

Black Lions and Aegises are bricks with a lot of firepower. They have middling speed.

Not a lot of ships have many missile launchers. The Quixote has the most, but missiles in space battles are pretty naff unless someone is loading nukes.

>>54916098
I am in the opinion that making Leviathan 3, they shot the Aerospace side of the Battletech on the foot.

I mean how would people react to a mech that you would need batallion worth of other mechs to kill and that batallion would still lose half of their numbers doing that.

>>54916230

Lev II is what breaks the game wide open.

Lev III just snaps it even further.

I recently panic-bought a lance of the new classic Shadow Hawks once the Wasp disappeared from the IWM store. Definitely do not regret my purchase: this is an awesome sculpt. I mean, it's still a Shad, but it assembles easily and there's a lot of room for dynamism in posing.

Does anyone sell painted minis online? I suck at painting and just want a desk mount.

>>54916270
They both die to the wall.

>>54916488
>>54916270
Levi's get the bullet too

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Question about LAMs

Why not?

To clarify: It appears I can make 100 Ton LAMs, and I'm beginning to wonder why the idea never got off the ground (heh), they'd be extremely good for transporting themselves across planets,
and during invasions: don't even require that their dropship lands, just that it drops them close enough for them to fly in like Aerospace Fighters, then they can land and be right away good to go

As far as I can tell, the construction rules don't appear to take too much away from the mech itself, even if you are using the LAM system solely for transportation between games, and mostly ignoring it on the Table Top

>>54916597
55 tons is maximum LAM. No weight saving structures allowed. No big engines allowed. No multicrit weapons allowed. That's a lotta No.

Their crazy ground maneuverability is what makes them both loved and hated.

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>>54916017
>that wipe half of entire SL era fleet alone.
Eh, given their performance against the Reagan system I'd say the SL would be more than capable of just spamming nukes at it from every direction until the damned thing ran out of AMS ammo. Or micro-jumping another Task Force Leonidas into it.

>>54917053
>Task Force Leonidas

I just read about that and that's 40 Warships to kill one ship so it I still think that if you really need that kinda numbers to kill ONE ship that ship is beyond retarded

>>54917053

300 ASFs, anon. And the 1k armour on every facing. The AMSes also have like 100 shots each so good luck running those out.

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>>54917429
This is about what it takes.

>>54917586

A Thera, an Eagle, an Agamemnon, a Lola III, and a Baron would be absolutely handed their asses by a Lev II, a Conqueror, and a Nightlord.

That whole battle is occurring in accordance with rule of cool/authorial fiat, not what would happen on the tabletop.

You'd need to double the WoB fleet to get close to taking the Lev II alone, never mind the rest of the ships accompanying them.

Not even kidding when I say that you would need half the existing ships in 3145-ish to take out a single Leviathan II, and the Bears have that plus an upgraded and more dangerous Lev III.

>>54917822
Aren't you forgetting the massive compliment of Pocket Warships those boys were carrying? Plus I think they retconned the numbers in Final Reckoning for there to be like 14 ships.

At least ten ships were destroyed and I know several of them got away.

Destroyed ships:

The Alneas (Agamemnon), Sardis (Thera), Mordred (Eagle), Tristram (Eagle), Tirana (Zechetinu), Karella (Zechetinu), Aranelda (Zechetinu II), Light of Glory (Baron), Dawning Horizon (Essex), End of Wisdom (Lola III)

Pretty sure the Righteous Justice was there. So that's some actual decent Farragut firepower to add in.

>>54918444

>Aren't you forgetting the massive compliment of Pocket Warships those boys were carrying?

Nope. Until the Castrum, PWSes are glorified clay pidgeons for WSes.

Even allowing for the expanded fleet listing, a Lev II would destroy those without raising a sweat.

>>54918462
I was about to raise the Kraken T point but remembered the fucking insane AMS on the thing. Yeah, PWS mainly get a fuckton of range better than their conventional cousins and access to a few good missile options.

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>“Gundam is Gundam and the story is old. Admittedly, they are trying to update it and modernize it but I think that if you are going to change the designs drastically with each iteration, maybe you should change the story as well. In that sense, I don't feel the need to make a Gundam series of my own. Gundam should be Gundam and I am not very interested in doing that.”

Meanwhile in the west...
>"What is it? Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the static noise my TV is making. Of course it's still 1985! I'll keep repeating the same shit for as long as I live. There is nothing more interesting than rehashing the same thing over and over and over again. Clans? What's that? SHS is love, SHS is life. 4th SW sure was funny, wasn't it?"

Sometimes I really do wonder where could Battletech be if the people involved realized hopping in the same spot like a kid that needs to pee is hurting the franchise in a major way.

>>54901859
Now I just want to see a mercenary group who have modified their mechs to ride on giant space dinosaurs.

>>54916674
Haven't they been constant discussions about the idea of a Clan LAM with twin cockpits, one for a Mechwarrior, the other for a ASF Pilot?

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>>54918721
It's not like you'd need to modify the robots.
Just get some chain/rope so they can direct the thing and make it go were they want it to go/hold onto in a pinch.

>>54918766
All you'd need to do after that is find a Space dinosaur strong enough to take this.

>>54918782
Time for that vacation to Hunter's Paradise, I guess.

>>54905199
I'm on holiday so none.

Just looking at mechs to make new lances for my next 3050 campaign. It will be my first time taking on clans so I feel like I will die really quickly

>>54918782
All you need is a hipposaur or two. Of course, then you're taking away from the hipposaur mounted infantry.

>>54917586
>FWLN
>not FWLS
anyone even factcheck what CLG puts anymore? or is it just madcap and kit making sure their factions aren't shit on now?

>>54918782
I have an exgf who now draws furry porn and fursonas on DeviantArt who's big enough for letting at least a medium mech to ride her. Nyuk, nyuk.

While i get the lev series of warships are op as fuck, whats the point in complaining when you'll never run inyo one in a game? Its a plot vehicle and nothing else.

>>54919707
Clearly you have to sneak a nuke aboard one of its dropships and just get rid of it through subterfuge.

>>54919744

Iv seen em do cartwheels from a nuke in game, also seen it get critted to death.

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I had two conference calls this morning.

>>54909465
>NEA, you still visit here?

Not that much. There's nothing to talk about that isn't depressing (aka, CGL's business and legal acumen), the ratio of discussion to shit-posting has finally overtaken the OF, and I personally haven't been working on much BattleTech stuff except for the campaign I'm running, and nobody wants to read campaign reports except the people actually in the campaign. I've pulled back hugely from posting on the internet at all since an SJW threatened my kid and posted pics of his school over an advertisement I was in.

In the absence of civil conversation topics, I have no problem with staying silent rather than just making meaningless noise to fill said silence.

>I was hoping to have a paper copy of the BT Manual brought back from GenCon, but I guess we can't even have that.

>>54922002
w-we could talk about SLDF warships and homogeneous mech companies and battalions

>>54919707
It's just irks me that they actually made that BS of ship, kneecapping aerospace stuff in the process just for the Ghost Bears to be this Hand of God that would solve the Jihad by dropping pretty much every conflict and ending it almost instantly. I think someone mentioned that Ghost Bears where even worse in the original plot concerning Jihad and I do wonder what the thought process behind that was.

>>54922002
>nobody wants to read campaign reports except the people actually in the campaign.
Depends on the presentation. If you or one of your players can write it up in an engaging, compelling way like Shadowrun Storytime or All Guardsmen Party, an audience could be found.

I'm sick at home anyone want an art dump or something or have some builds they want?

>>54922002
>I personally haven't been working on much BattleTech stuff except for the campaign I'm running, and nobody wants to read campaign reports except the people actually in the campaign.

I'd be interested in hearing about it as long as it's nothing mary sue like being mercenaries with Dropships and assault mechs and all that shit.

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>>54922488
You have any builds for FWL mechs in the pre- (or early) Jihad era?

>>54922602
None handy, but excuse to make some.

>>54922655
Cool beans.

I'm most interested in their new domestic models from the 50s/60s, like the Hammer, Anvil, Apollo, Grand Titan, Albatross, Wraith, Hercules, etc.

Bonus points for a variant of the Pikeman before the project transformed into the Patriot mech.

>>54919224

That probably would have been Oystein, he was in charge of that.

>>54919707

All jokes aside, it's ridiculously OP and Jellico actually lives locally so I've played against him. Good due aside from his GB fandom.

>>54922136

GBs took over as the Warden leading Clan after the Refusal War and are pretty popular for reasons that never made much sense to me.

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>>54922488
>>54912143
"8 models in the boxed set, 4 in the starter"
Boxed set:
>Thud, Griff, Woverine, Beemer

Starter:
>Lolcust.

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>>54923913
>>54923899
Models are still in the stupid 1/200 scale like the "HQ" Loki and Thor, and have integrated bases with texture.

More importantly -
NEW FUCKING STARTER BOX MAPS. And the graphic design isn't bad..

>>54922136

Thata still a plot vehicle. Kneecap aerospace? Be honest, how many times have you ran into one in a pick up game let alone a campaign
The ratio of players who dabble.in aerospace let alone participate in aero battles that big, is so slim that while i understand you hate the bears get a plot device thats only used against blakists.
What i don't understand is why your vagina hurts, its not like the bears rebuilt their touman completely like the falcons or the wolfs.

>>54923913
>>54923960

I hope they're planning to work on these minis some more since those are potato mode, especially compared to what you get in other starter boxes these days.

>>54923973

>What i don't understand is why your vagina hurts, its not like the bears rebuilt their touman completely like the falcons or the wolfs.

OTOH, until the Jihad the Bears had been on a steady diet of wins any way. Including overturning the results of a "YOU THE PLAYERS GET TO DETERMINE CANON!" game in their favour.

Plus if they were anti-Blakist plot devices they should all have died in the Jihad and no new ones built afterwards. That they kept one and now have tw suggests they're going to be front and centre for the ilKhan plotline.

>>54923899
>>54923913
>>54923960
The minis look okay, but I'm a bit miffed at the quantity. Four minis in the Starter Box? I guess if it's a pair of 'Mechs from two weight classes for 1-on-1 fights then that's fine, but quite underwhelming. Lance-on-Lance would have been better for that. The Boxed Set going from 24 minis to 8 is fucking pathetic, even if they are higher quality. 12 would have been acceptable, but 8 is not. There better be some really nice new maps in both, and the price points better be low.

>>54924015
Once again the lev becomes a plot device players don't have to deal with.

>>54922002
>an SJW threatened my kid and posted pics of his school over an advertisement I was in.

What in the blue fuck did you do?

>>54924527
He was in an advertisement. Can't you read?

How dare he support the capitalist fascist regime by participating in the economy!

>>54923960
>NEW FUCKING STARTER BOX MAPS. And the graphic design isn't bad..
Those god-awful white lines encircling half-hex terrain. And covering the map in green that could be grass or could be woods.

>>54924224
>The Boxed Set going from 24 minis to 8 is fucking pathetic
You only get a play area so big from the maps in the box - how many minis do you use at a time on a play area that big?

Not arguing the price point, mind you. If the box isn't as good a purchase then its price ought to reflect that.

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>>54924579
Things would be better if the state directed all commerce.

Xin Sheng!

>>54924591

>If the box isn't as good a purchase then its price ought to reflect that.

We all know they're going to charge out the ass for it though.

>>54924527
>>54924579

It was discussed over in the L5R general thread last week. Evidently he took a job to choreograph fights for a larp company's advert for asian style larp gear. The company hired ethnically correct actors, but they didn't show up to the location on the filming day, so since he and his wife knew the fight already, they just put on the costumes and went in front of the cameras instead of canceling the shoot and losing the location they'd only booked for a little bit. Which then resulted in white people dressed up in badly fitted asian gear, which is evidently some sort of intolerable cultural appropriation (because larping isn't pretending to be something or someone you aren't already, I guess), and people made death threats and so forth.

The clearly offensive advert is here, Epic took it down pretty quickly when they had somebody throw a rock through thier US office window.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtQsxbF-aQ

The local cincy hater really needs to step up his game: the sjws threatening NEA tracked down his company and were posting pics of his kids school, the school scehdule, and death threats with 24 hours of the video going live. A poster who goes by Hungarian Larpfag could tell you more, he's friends with NEA and he's the one who filled us in over in the L5R thread about all this.

>>54924954
That's sad.

And more annoying that Anonymous has apparently started taking the SJW side.

>>54925078

It wasn't anons who did that, though there are at least two retards who flip their shit any time NEA and/or Cincy get mentioned.

>>54925239
Naw, was referring to some statements released by Anonymous since the Charleston thing.

WTF....
how can anyone hate on NEA, he's always polite helpful, knows his shit more than anyone else I've seen here.

>>54924591
>ou only get a play area so big from the maps in the box - how many minis do you use at a time on a play area that big?
I understand that, but part of the appeal of the two prior Intro Boxes was the fact that the those boxes got one person a massive collection to pick and choose from, or, more appropriately, got two or more people sizeable collections to start playing. You could run a whole campaign out of that box with multiple players and it was an amazing value, even if the minis were a bit shit. Still better than the vinyl ones they made, or Citytech minis. Conversely, now you have a box that's basically meant for one person (Starter) and two people (Intro) respectively. And it nets you a Lance. And it's also redundant; why bother with a Lance Box + Map when you can just push the Intro box with two Lances + two Maps, and then have a BIGGER box that is for collection building/additional maps? Hell, that latter product could have probably been successfully Kickstarted if they had half a mind to do so.

>Not arguing the price point, mind you. If the box isn't as good a purchase then its price ought to reflect that.
Of course. You should get what you pay for, and you should pay for what you get. I appreciate the new minis and everything but if the cost of the Intro Box is the same as the old one, I doubt they'll get my money. If it's half the price? Hell yeah I'll buy it, that's a good deal to me.

>>54924664
This is more likely than I'd want to admit.

>>54924954
I remember being around and hearing about this the first time. It disgusts me, both as a human and as a left-leaner. Yeah yeah 'virtue signaling' whatever faggot maybe some people just don't find merit in threatening a man's innocent kids over something so banal as 'cultural appropriation', which is no where near as terrible a thing as murder. Just saying.

>>54925342
Yes, but he microaggresses people, triggers the vulnerable, and is a white male oppressor. He was born wrong and has wrong ideas and must be punished so other people can feel good about themselves.

>>54925277
Well, now that you've said this the thread's going to go /pol/ no matter WHAT we do so, what has your panties in a bunch?

>>54925277

>he actually thinks anonymous hacked that website

Haha no.

>>54925430

The Daily Stormer put up an announcement that hackers who were defending the Jews of the world had taken over the site and were going to shut it down in the near future.

The dates /very curiously/ lined up with when GoDaddy told them they were going to stop hosting them and when they were going to go off-line.

Then they tried to migrate to a .ru domain which worked briefly until Russian authorities stepped in because surprise surprise, Russia has a bit of a hate on for Nazis.

TL;DR: Boo fucking hoo happened.

>>54925426
I know you are joking but, is there any SANE reason for people disliking him? Or should I say remotely sane? Shooting down a terrible offer? Disliking some company?

Granted I've literally had shit thrown at me for my line of work, some how this stuff only gets worse not better.
If you see this NEA, fully understand but thanks for the incredible amount of time help education and sharing this hobby.

>>54925078
So from Project Chanology onward then?

>>54925508
No, no sane reason that I know of. It's a damn shame.

>>54925497
Huh, from your previous statement it sounded like you were sympathetic. Sorry about that. Yeah, I just read about all that stuff myself.

>>54925508
None that I can think of. Not to stroke his ego any but he's a useful resource for most things Battletech, he's good at the game, good at strategy, and part of the best gaming group for the game in the US. Fullstop. That he's grown apart from this community because he now deems it worse than the OF is a sad day because we're losing a quality poster and community member. I don't personally agree with him that we are worse than the OF because we aren't an echo chamber, but if he feels that way, that's how he feels. Dayum shame indeed, but it is what it is. I guess some of us will have to step up. Me? All I can do is post badly shooped wallpapers with pretty ladies on them, customs, and discuss what little I know. I've done other things in the past too, but really, my contributions to this community are pretty paltry, all told. Next we'll be losing Xotl or something; god help us then.

>>54925636
>That he's grown apart from this community because he now deems it worse than the OF is a sad day because we're losing a quality poster and community member. I don't personally agree with him that we are worse than the OF

He didn't say that we were worse, he just said that the ratio of shitposts to conversation had grown higher than he enjoyed. I'd be willing to bet a fairly large sum that he wouldn't go back to the OF for love or money. Or that they banned him out of spite.

Still, there's a fair point in there somewhere about being willing to spend your time here. Go back through the archive. 4-5 years ago, we had a ton of community regulars and probably a dozen namefags contributing quiality content quite regularly. How long has it been since Nephanim posted? How often does Muninn post anymore? Does anyone remember The Pole? Every one of the old drawfags are gone (no hate intended against what you're doing with the pin ups, but that's not the same as original art). There's probably as many again that I'm forgetting. What happened to them all?

>>54925636

>Huh, from your previous statement it sounded like you were sympathetic.

I'm not >>54925277, I'm just tired of hearing complaints from the DS fanboys about recent events.

As far as NEA goes, I get the feeling he's burning out on the hobby in general. The lack of stuff to talk about and some of the new blood that seems to have shown up here lately probably isn't helping.

>>54925787

DESU? BT products died in the arse around then. New products are very low in content and don't come out very often. All that's left is chewing the cud.

>>54925508
>I know you are joking but, is there any SANE reason for people disliking him?
well, I mean he is a US citizen so....

>>54925913
Well, there are sane reasons to hate anyone based on nationality then. Fuck you in particular Anon.

>>54926064
I exist to dissapoint

>>54925837
You might be right. I find it hard to focus on this hobby with it being basically non-existent around here myself. Ah well. It's a shame I've no interest in most of the other games/communities on /tg/ anymore. Used to frequent other threads, but I'm burned out on those too. I would love to shoot the shit here about AUs or 'what ifs' or customs or new art/drawfaggery or whatever, but yeah it's mostly just memes anymore and there ain't much to discuss because AUs are a come and go thing, 'what ifs' are usually ignored or only last for a few posts, and customs... yeah that's been a dead horse for a long time. I feel like the only thing that could revitalize the game, and thereby the community here, would be some kind of big shakeup. And that's doubtful.

>>54926248

The only thing that's bugging me about AUs these days is that they start from a desired end goal and the supposed point of divergence doesn't support it.

I'm all for AUs that make sense, but "What if my faction suddenly makes it big and #rekts everyone else all of a sudden? Huh? Huh?" isn't my thing.

Neither is round n+1 as to why FASAnomics is bad and we should all feel bad.

>>54926389
Agreed, the only good AUs come from suggesting a change and extrapolating from that. What if Ulric had been successful and the Clans had invaded in 3055 instead of 3050? What if Hanse Davion hadn't flinched in 3039?

What if Candace Liao and Justin Xiang had just offed Romano?

Actual copyright lawyer with bad hair examines the HGvHBS/PGI lawsuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPou5WuE-Y4&feature=youtu.be

Verdict Summary: eh, not really seeing enough of a resemblance for a lawsuit, but who knows where a jury could land? It feels more like a cash shakedown than a valid lawsuit; if there were real damages, why has there been no restraining order filed against any defendant?

>>54926833

I'm not sure there's a reason for injunctions to be laid.

CGL has already abandoned everything to do with the Macross units, in direct response to the lawsuit along with accepting summary judgement in default against them.

With HBS and PGI they need to determine whether there actually is anything that infringes.

I think odds of a settlement are higher here than a court case, especially since it's HG's standard m.o..

He also doesn't seem to be aware of the greater history involved here, and HG will definitely be dragging that out and waving it around at every opportunity.

>>54926497
>Agreed, the only good AUs come from suggesting a change and extrapolating from that.
Speaking of AUs, my current project is "what if the clan invasion saw tabletop performance levels, but ALL the crusaders showed up?"
I'm also adding some IS WS stuff to prevent things from becoming a walkover for that reason

>>54925636

Speaking as someone who tried to contribute and got fucking ignored and/or shouted down for not being high quality enough posts, this place is a fucking hostile place to newblood. I pretty much just lurk instead of posting now.

Like I posted my WIP paintjob for my lance and basically got a bunch of shit thrown at me because I am still learning how to paint. Posted stories from my group's campaign and got ignored. Posted some of my customs and got told to fuck off. This is not a friendly community.

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In re: the contents -
The "intro box" packaging is the same size as the hexpacks and Alpha Strike sets. That would suggest a similar price point - and frankly, $20-30 for a map and a lance isn't a bad deal. Not as good as the old boxed set but we all know that's one of the best deals in gaming. The larger one being $40-50 would make sense, and I'd probably buy one.

Also, I got the contents wrong in >>54923899
It was supposed to be:
Beemer, Thud, and Locust in the boxed set, with the Griff and Wolvie in the starter. Not a bad match-up, especially if there's a compensating couple of "long-range" and "brawler" heavies in the box. Given what we know they have prototyped, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the Whammy and MAD or Archer, or they could slap a pair of OSTs if they want to avoid the specific things HG is targeting. And I'm not sure why the Wolvie is left-handed now, but there you go.

>>54924591
>And covering the map in green that could be grass or could be woods.
Did you notice the loop around the actual woods, clearly defining them? I'm pretty okay with that over shitty black hexlines on dark brown and tiny white letters in every hex of woods...

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>>54927453
I liked your stuff, if you're Snowravenfag. That said.. I'll take honest over friendly most of the time. Especially when "friendly" is enforced at gunpoint by the OFs.


>>54925787
>Or that they banned him out of spite.
Oh yeah. NEA is permabanned, despite being able to >prove< that what got him banned was another person jacking his account. Complete with a screencapped confession and timestamped evidence from several parties.

>>54925787
>>54925636
Xotl's not going anywhere, he comes here partly because it's his job - same as with the Facebook groups. We apparently have a reputation for finding critical errors despite (as always) being gleeful faggots. He's just busting ass right now.

As for the rest - I lurk a lot here and elsewhere, and I know or have worked with a couple of these people IRL. Take this with a grain of salt, but this is my understanding of what's going on:

• LaBambaMan got burned out on mecha gaming after the Robotech Tactics things and the eternal jerk-around of the Dark Age. He's still lurking and on the board, but doesn't come around much to BTG anymore

• ThePole is dealing with RL stuff and IIRC he got so pissed off at Catalyst that he left BT for a while.

• Munnin is offline for the same reason he's taking a break from the /btgro/ project (real life stuff).

>Drawfags:
• Pencilbro - active
• Shimmy - hired away from us and under enough NDAs to make his balls hurt. Still lurks in the IRC and here.
• Chris D/TGXarbala - hired out from under us. He was always a Goon first and 'Channer second anyway.
• Alex - hired off from us a LONG time ago.
• Osgood - Isn't he dealing with university right now? Not my favorite drawfag, but not the worst either.
• DFWNN - Active


I'm personally dealing with hometown politics and gamer ADD, but I still swing by every few days/weeks. Just haven't been working on games much lately.

It's the natural consequence of most of us being over thirty.

>>54927741
don't i even get booster club status?

>>54927741

I am not Snowravenfag and beyond that, who I am is not important, but when I tried to contribute, it was made blatantly clear to me that I was not welcome, and so I no longer try to contribute.

Battletech update and Multiplayer now live with the firestarter included.

>>54928148
No. You know what you did.

>>54928219
what did he do?

>>54928198
Honestly, bro you sound like that guy who was brand new spouting all that off the wall stuff the other day.

There's two consequences of a community for a game as old as this one. One is that there are basically no new ideas at the lower levels. You want to have a novel thought, you need to step up to DA or at least Jihad era. The second is nobody is going to respect your opinion until you've dug a bit deeper into the game. Having a strong opinion on anything based off of a small amount of exposure is just going to get laughed at.

>>54928410
>Honestly, bro you sound like that guy who was brand new spouting all that off the wall stuff the other day.

whos this now? what was he saying?

>>54927741
>Xotl's not going anywhere

Err...

I was just coming by to say that folks won't be hearing from me much here or on the OF, for the next year and a half or so. Though it's not been announced, I've already formally resigned my position as errata coordinator and am abandoning most of my general BT work (such as leading the rules team). I need to finish my degree, and any and all distractions to that have to go. Hopefully I can return in 2019 to a bold new world of shitposting.

All the best, /btg. See you, space cowboys.

>>54927741
>despite being able to >prove< that what got him banned was another person jacking his account.

how'd he get his password?

>>54928473
The guy talking about how you couldn't have a list of factories and that battletech is first and foremost a competitive tournament game that should allow full customs and their canonization by the victors and so on.

It's like, you could tell he was used to more typical mini tourney games like 40K and was simultaneously pissed that there was so much lore that he felt overwhelmed so was like "This is all stupid, am I right guys? Look at my awesome new but not really ideas. Praise my insight!"

Got about the reaction you would expect.

>>54928538
Ree. Everyone I know leaves to go to real life.

>>54928556
Sounds like you had different opinions on the way the game should be played.

>>54927599
>Did you notice the loop around the actual woods, clearly defining them?
You're joshing me, yeah? Here >>54923960 there's no such thing. Here >>54923913 the white line follows the contours of the woods *graphic* instead the contours of the woods *hexes*. It defines nothing that wasn't already defined.

>I'm pretty okay with that over shitty black hexlines on dark brown
Did you notice the elevations in the bottom right of >>54923899 with *white* lines on *light* brown?

>and tiny white letters in every hex of woods...
Here I agree with you. This alone is a huge step towards adequacy. I also appreciate the sharp color contrast between the woods and the surrounding terrain.

>>54928654
not anon, but the hivemind has a great deal of difficulty adapting to opinions that run against the consensus.

>>54928198

*All the stuff to do with painting since I've been here has been constructive, allowing four board memery like THIN YOUR FUCKING PAINTS RETARD that you see everywhere on /tg/.

*Customs get ignored most of the time unless they have fluff or the thread is actively talking about doing customs with certain tech restrictions in place. If you actively got told to fuck off here, and I can't recall any such situations in the last year or so, it was because you were spamming munchkin machines or using .pdfs instead of image files.

*Campaign stories are always hit and miss. Unless there's something really funny in there, and not everything translates well from "my playing group thought this was hilarious" to "everyone everywhere thinks this is hilarious" most people are going to read it, go "yup, that's a thing that happened to that dude" and then move on because there's nothing else to add to the conversation. I've regularly had my own stories not get any (You)s, it is what it is.

OTOH I've written articles and posted designs with full fluff that got good responses, and incorporated that feedback into revising them. Anonymity is the great leveller, people will say what they think about your ideas.

>>54927599

Are the BMR, TDR, LCT in the starter all you get there or is there something else to bulk out the numbers? Ditto with the Starter set. Those still seem small in numbers.

>>54928279

Writes terrible fluff about former ComStar personnel running away with the secrets of HPGs to give to his family and being expelled from the Order after killing pirates and being given the highest ComStar military honours for doing so.

When shit just doesn't make sense, people will tell you to fuck off.

>>54928654
Nobody said he couldn't play it his way, just laid out the myriad historical reasons why his opinion was both unpopular and disastrous in practice and why basically nobody else shared it. Calling Battletech a tournament game when there's only one real tournament for it a year in the style he meant is also pretty space cadet.

>>54928729
>writes terrible fluff

Pretty sure that guy got chased away, but who knows, I don't keep track of anons like that.

>>54928552

Hacked NEA's account on the Cincy forums and discovered he used the same password at the BT forums.

>>54928785
And the fact that the scheduled tournaments are using predefined forces...maybe a commander or two are going to be running pimped-out rides, but by and large, unless you're running a small, successful Merc unit your line machines are going to be stock designs.

>>54928789

No, that's ringringlingling. Who, assuming the poster upthread is legit and not using a trip for trolling purposes, still does post here and elsewhere.

I want bask in the warm glow of the hivemind and receive praise, but I don't want to lose my identity behind a wall of anonymity or have my ideas be subject to revision by committee. I'd really rather have someone in charge say yay or nay than have to appeal to group consensus everytime I submit an idea.

>>54928809
>Hacked NEA's account on the Cincy forums
1) what are cincy forums?
2) how'd he do that?

Most bbs systems have a system in place that places your password in a hash so that even the admin doesn't have access to it.

>>54928538
God speed my dude.

>>54928875
Most do. But if the string is hashed with a known weak protocol, like SHA-1, it's easily reversed due to collisions and straight-up bruteforcing. This is why a truly secure password database would be hashed and salted, and hashed with a known secure algorithm like SHA-256 or better.

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>>54928839
So here is a list of things I said that people basically just told me to fuck off and die. Keep in mind I was only trying to be helpful.

1) I suggested that most mechs could use a bit of optimization.
2) I suggested that using a program to vet class C refits during tournament play might add a little spice to the game.
3) I suggested that tournament winners should get to make a custom mech (within reason) and have it canonized as a prize for winning.
4) I seconded an idea that a list of worlds with mech factories on them might be useful. (Wasn't even my idea)
5) My fanfic was about a guy who got kicked out of comstar for slaughtering an infantry platoon after they had already surrendered.

I guess its my fault for caring what you guys think and wanting your approval, but if you don't like my ideas or my opinions there are nicer ways of expressing those opinions.

>>54928921
But how would you even get the hash unless you were already an admin and had access to the database or were within range of the servers wireless router?

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>>54928538
Godfucking damnit.
Alright. Happy trails, Kieth, you always have been a good'un. Hope we're in a good place when you get back.
..Also, I hope they've found someone worth half a shit to succeed you. Gonna be a long few months on the errata forums, I suspect.

>>54928473
I've been away for a couple months. Who the fuck are you?
>>54928839
...Oh. That faggot. Right. Being remembered isn't exactly a guarantee that people will like you. Pic related.

>>54928691
Fair enough. I did like being able to pick everything out pretty quickly and clearly compared to the, say, red-on-brown-on-black "Mars" hills and canyons maps. Also, new maps that I don't have to make myself. Any new maps.

>>54928729
>Are the BMR, TDR, LCT in the starter all you get there or is there something else to bulk out the numbers? Ditto with the Starter set. Those still seem small in numbers.
Well, as I said in the original post it's supposed to be 8 in the intro box and 4 in the starter. It honestly looks to me like they just threw the Shimmyseen minis they already had finished, but >not< involved in HG's horseshit onto the shelves with the boxes.

>>54928809
>>54928875
Known issues with a shitty, unpatched forum software the Cincinatti guys were using. Such is life in the XXIth Centvry.

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>>54928538
>See you, space cowboys.

Bless your weapons and go, Xotl.

>>54929083
All you need is a dump of the database. Or an admin with a weak/known password. Like one that's been posted to one of the 'pwned' dumps like haveibeenpwned.

From there, it's child's play.

>>54928875

Person who did it here. I was mad at the Cincy Battletech team for basically making me miserable at Gencons for about 5 years straight because they won all the time. I've contacted NEA to apologize in the past. Yes, I know it was a shit thing do be mad about.

He had a fairly easy to guess password if you know what he does for a living, which I did from talking to him at Gencon, and if you were motivated enough to take the time to brute force it, which I was. Long story short, once I realized I had access to his account on both forums, I could see his IP address since he was an admin on the Cincy forum. From there, it was simple to spoof the IP to get a screencap from the nda'd area of the forums (where the mods and admins and demo people gather to talk shit about users and complain) photoshop the image a bit, and post it for dissemination. The mods saw the spoofed IP address in the screencap and thought it was screencapped by him, and that my logins were his logins.

I bragged about it here about 6 months later and that evidently started another investigation, but since all their IP based login records still would have pointed to him, I guess nothing was done.

Like I said, I've apologized to him before, and I'd do it again if he was part of this conversation. I was a different and much shittier person then.

>>54929054
>1) I suggested that most mechs could use a bit of optimization.
We all know this, but doing that can be boring as hell.

>2) I suggested that using a program to vet class C refits during tournament play might add a little spice to the game.
Spoken like someone who has never actually run a tournament, because that tracking is super fucking tedious when 10 people bring their own customs.

>3) I suggested that tournament winners should get to make a custom mech (within reason) and have it canonized as a prize for winning.
For what purpose? There are two tournaments, and one is the Bloodname tournament. Additionally, they did that before and people made a stink about how unfair it was.

>4) I seconded an idea that a list of worlds with mech factories on them might be useful. (Wasn't even my idea)
It exists, but most of the work is tedious and contradictory. Also, some sources of gear aren't given, so for a full list, we'd have to get access to internal sources.

>5) My fanfic was about a guy who got kicked out of comstar for slaughtering an infantry platoon after they had already surrendered.
Your fanfic was bad and you should feel bad. Also, you had the main character somehow know how HPGs work and get a medal of wiping out that platoon.

>>54929054

You got that because of what you did.

1. We know. We all know. Most people figure this out by the end of their third game, if not sooner.

2. Those programs exist but running a tournament is already time-consuming and requires a lot of force vetting. Adding more complexity to this is not a good idea. The people who run the BT tournaments are literally volunteers who regularly get the shaft from CGL and arguing they need a higher workload is going to come off badly.

3. BT is not like Legend of the Five Rings or whatever and offering canon-changing power for winning a tournament has a poor history in the game. They actively shy away from this because of how much it fucks with their plans, which is understandable because they can barely handle writing the plot as it is without trying to deal with curve balls thrown by players.

4. People agreed.

5. Those pirates were attacking a HPG facility. ComStar literally would not give a fuck if they were killed after trying to surrender, because they were *trying to attack a HPG.* He also left with the details necessary to make and use HPGs, because it's not like ComStar spent centuries making sure nobody else knew how that stuff worked or anything.

I would actually argue that people held back in what they said to you.

>>54929116
See, that may have been a shitty thing to do, but it was impressive from a hacking standpoint. How did you get a hold of his password hash? Did you have access to the server? Most forums and other paywalls send you a cookie after entering the correct password into a text field. Is there some way to intercept the password hash while doing this?

Sorry, I just have been banging my head against the wall for years trying to figure out how hackers do certain things.

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>>54929054
Here's me being nice, based on the list of shit you posted up there and a little poking through the archives.

For starters, board culture here is pretty hostile to "idea" people who don't have a prototype. If you show up and want other people to do the work for a thing you think might be neat - ESPECIALLY if that thing is something we don't think is equally neat - we generally don't care. Show and prove, don't just pump hot air through your jowls.

>I seconded an idea that a list of worlds with mech factories on them might be useful. (Wasn't even my idea)
People have tried. It >would< be useful. It's also been a colossal fucking mess that has led to even more problems than it solved the last few times someone actually did anything about it (look up the Objectives/Objective Raids series..). When you propose something like that but then refuse to actually contribute or work on it people get.. hostile. Especially the ones that >have< put work into it and know just how fucked the fluff situation is right now. Or tried to work through Catalyst to improve it.

>Make a program to vet customs in tournaments
The Refit Level system is already broken as far as a lot of us are concerned. Customs in tournament play is Solaris territory - and belongs nowhere else IMO.

>Fanfic
I'm a professional editor (and historical linguist, but that's as may be).
1) Your writing is execrable.
2) So's your spelling
3) When people go "this is really goddamned sketchy fluff, and here is why" your response was "But Muh Special Snuhfleke" followed by a "I'm really not butthurt, come look at my deliberate trolling badfic". Did you secretly hope we'd think it was good and fellate you for that?

>Canonized customs after tournaments
It's happened in the past. On the other hand, you need to limit it like fuck. Otherwise, someone will try to canonize shit like the Gausszilla or Hellstar. Or backdoor an extinct design back into production. Cool idea, but Catalyst is allergic to cool.

>>54929180
>I would actually argue that people held back in what they said to you.

Really?

Cause it seems to me like you were just being your usual dickish selves. You could have just told me there was no more room in your clique.

Just picked up some battle armor. How few of these fucks can I put on a base without looking like a cheapass?

>>54929237

You're attributing too much technical prowess. I figured that he had a distinctive name/number combination as a password. I used both of his forum handles plus numbers 1-99 and didn't get in, then I saw his facebook handle, which was 'Swordguy', which is distinctive enough I thought it likely to serve double duty as a password to something. I just started adding numbers to the end of the word, figuring that there'd be a maximum of 99 possibilities since most people don't use 3 or more numbers. That worked.

Spoofing the IP was a result of some googling and a bare minimum of computer skills. I'm not some sort of leet hacker at all. I was just really angry and motivated and willing to put the time into the project. It helped that neither the Cincy forum nor the older version of the Battletech forum had a 'too many attempts' lockout function.

If it's okay with you, I'd prefer to drop it at this point. It's not something I'm proud of doing at all.

Well, i'm kind of tired of trying to fit in and bang my head against the wall. Overall I have found you to be rude, arrogant, obnoxious, cliquish, petty, and all around petulant group of semi-adults who seem to cherish chasing away new people and stomping on new ideas.

I've had my fill of trying to make you happy, impress you, or otherwise cater to your interests. All I ever wanted was to be a part of your community and you shat on me at every opportunity.

I wish I had something clever to say, but as is often the case when someone tries to endear themselves to someone and is rejected, I have nothing to say.

Thanks for making me feel like crap and treating me like dogshit. May you never find yourself short on fair-weather friends and idiotic sycophants to follow you were ever you go.

I'm out.

>>54929429

I know I personally spent my time being polite to you and offering constructive feedback until you went on the offensive, and the majority of the thread did as well.

Find happier pastures elsewhere, I guess.

>54929429
You're not trying to fit in when you dismiss any concern over your fluff as being "headcanon lol." Post your material, take the criticism that's warranted into account, and post stuff that's actually interesting. Or post on the OF. Whichever.

>>54929054
Like I said, you know exactly what you did.

Now endure the shame.

>>54929584
>Or post on the OF. Whichever.
He already does that

Fluff question: Before the Chaos March era and discounting Terra, were there any outright independent worlds in the Inner Sphere proper? A fair amount of the early fluff kinda suggests that they exist, but I can't actually think of any

>>54929429
>I'm out.

fucking finally.

>>54929713

Just Outreach, I think. And even that was only independant to a degree. Actual independance,not so much.

>>54929713
The Periphery had a shit ton of independent worlds through its entire history.

You're probably thinking of the FWL though, which only has about half it's member worlds in substates like Oriente or Regulus. The rest are independent voices that only owe allegiance to the FWL itself.

It's also very much a fuedal setup all across the sphere. World dukes are much like knights more than anything. They're basically running things independently but have to drum up their share of men and treasure while owing allegiance to the next guy up in the chain whether that's the March Lord, Warlord, whoever.

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>>54929405
2-3 if you get smaller bases? I use the coins from the Pirates! TCG, about the size of a 1Y or 1C Euro coin.


>>54929429
..that's some copypasta-level tsundere butthurt you got going on, duder/dudette.

Okay, real talk. You may notice that your namefagging is drawing fire. If you hang out without using that name, people might be more receptive. You can still be part of the community. Part of the Anon ideal is that we don't necessarily want attention for our names, just <what we do>. You did some stupid shit, and some normal shit, and some newbie shit. All of us have. The difference is, most of us do it on anon and don't put our RL egos on the line. Campaignanon earned his wings running campaigns. Pencilbro did it with his art. Munnin got shit on >relentlessly< until he stopped demanding we like his stuff just because it came from him. I don't use my handle here, because it's a place I can put my ideas up and see what people actually think of the >ideas<, not of >me<. Some of them are shit, it's true. Some of them aren't. But I can go "hey, this is the anon who was doing [foo], can I get some help on this?" or "what about this strategy" instead of "LOOOOVE MEEEEEEEEEE". Think about it - how many people actually talk shit about you here when you aren't shoving yourself in their faces?
...
Also I only get 2000 characters here to tear into badfic. When I'm getting paid a nickle a word for it, I'll give helpful advice and detailed breakdowns in PMs or emails. When it's clear that you aren't listening, though, and just want someone to tell you your bad writing is good.. well, "Please stop posting until you get some more lore under your belt and read Strunk and White" uses less than 5% of those characters and almost none of my time. Other people will, in the charming idiom of the 'chans, will simply go "KYS, faggot" and move on. It still means the same thing; not "you are a bad person", but "what you are making is bad"

>>54929713
Northwind..ish?

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>>54929713
>the Inner Sphere proper?
Honestly, most of the border between the IS and the Periphery was based on state control. There are a shitload of independent worlds within astrographic definitions of the IS. Politically the Inner Sphere is defined by national borders, but as you can see here the FS and Dracs control territory far more distant from Terra than some of the stuff in the far reaches outside the FWL/Magistracy/Hegemony/Commonwealth-held space. E.G., you have Butte Hold (independent pirate kingdom) closer to Terra than Delos.

>>54929860

Northwind was held by the FedCom, it didn't go independant until the Chaos March era.

>>54901023
Crinn no
this is not the way to save Deloyer

>>54929713
Technically, some of the worlds that fell off the maps during the SWs weren't rendered totally uninhabitable or abandoned. But at the same time they also just didn't have anything of worth really or any real military capability, barring the hidden worlds the C*/WoB had been sitting on, so usually not good for much unless you want to have a STar Trek TOS style adventure where you end up on mobster planet or something.

>>54930760
>STar Trek TOS style adventure

You know. This would be a perfect Interstellar Expeditions campaign. I hate how those losers replaced the Explorer Corps, but they got some fantastic plot hooks and spend a lot of time hunting stuff in the forgotten parts of the Inner Sphere, not just the Periphery.

>>54927453
I usually try to check out all posted minis if they look like OC or something I haven't seen before, and the poster claims it's their project. Do you mind reposting them? I don't know how to paint either so I wouldn't have much criticize unless they look like you dunked them in a paintcan. As far as customs go, I try to talk about those too if it looks like the person wants feedback, but if they're just posted offhand or something, or I've seen then several times I may not say anything. I don't know that I agree that this place is hostile; it's more like >>54927741 says in that it's more 'honest' than anything else. Anonymity and the lack of a circlejerk culture, as well as the lack of consequences thereof, usually brings that kind of thing about. At least you'll get told what to improve, and if that's everything, well... you said yourself you were new at it, and at least someone probably gave you a tip or three.

>>54927741
>LaBambaMan
I see him in other threads now and again. He's still here, and he still checks up on us now and then.
>The Pole
I miss this fucker. Was one of my favorites back in the day.
>Muninn
Yeah he has work.

As for the Drawfags, yeah it's been a while since I saw the one dude; Pencilbro I guess? The one who did the Merlin and Thanatos and all that. I recall him talking about doing /btg/TRO work potentially. That'd be sweet. I honestly don't remember seeing Xarbala post much, even back in the day. I know Shim has better shit to do and another job, and now we're losing Xotl. This community is going to rapidly decay.

I don't mean to sound like an ass but you're posting under Anon so I dunno who you are. Only guess is 3A.

>>54928538
Looking forward to your return in 2019 man. Didn't catch you in the IRC as often as I'd have liked, but them's the breaks, I'm just some fag anyway.

>>54928563
You've still got me, babe.

>>54928692
I tend to give ideas a fair shot, even when the person posting them is an egomaniac.

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>>54931549
>I don't mean to sound like an ass but you're posting under Anon so I dunno who you are. Only guess is 3A.
Well, that's the point. And nope, not them. I stay off the irc unless I'm PMing someone. I do have a blog and fuck about on tumblr a bit but I always post anon here except when I'm working a specific project. Partly because here's where I fling stupid half-baked ideas at the wall and wait to see which ones stick. Partly because I leak semi-confidential shit here. I'd really rather not compromise my sources or personal relationships offline for the sake of >muh ego.

As far as the others.. yeah, LaBamba spends a lot of time in /awgg/ these days. If I'm not mistaken, Pencilbro posted last night (>>54920760 ), and definitely in the last thread, so he's still with us. DFWNN is the dude who's been doing those excellent re-designs (pic related). Based on a couple comments I suspect he's a former shitposter and half-assed artist who decided to clean up his act, git gud, and come back. Which I applaud regardless of past actions.
I saw ThePole or someone false-fagging as him in /m/ not long ago, but yeah. I miss him too. Most of the old /m/ BT crew has moved on. I suppose it's the price we pay for having more than twenty posters these days.

>>54931549
>I tend to give ideas a fair shot, even when the person posting them is an egomaniac.
I try. Sometimes they get obdurate in their stupidity, at which point I leave the conversation. Other anons will immediately whiff the blood in the water and go for cheap summer/trip/namefag tears. It's part of the ecosystem.

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I've thought about it for a long time, and I've decided I'm going to side with the Davions. However, just because I support their right to rule doesn't mean I respect their sovereignty. The Davions are just defending themselves, trying to hold on to what they have had for centuries. They crossed the isle with Stiener, the made an attempt at peace and have been the defender, not the aggressor, in 4/5 of the various wars and conflicts they have been involved in.

That being said, they are still a tad isolationist for my tastes, and if I thought the clans had a chance in hell of winning, I'd support them, but they don't, so I can't.

There. I said it. I'm a Davion fag.

>>54932946
It also doesn't hurt that Davion has the best mechs.

>>54932946
>crossed the isle
Unintentionally brilliant word play.

Also, they have totally been the instigator of most operations they've been in since 3025. No Successor Lord in the Sphere ever stays a Lord that doesn't believe in conquest.

>if I thought the clans had a chance in hell of winning, I'd support them, but they don't, so I can't.
But they do win. King Cockfalcons 3250

>>54933007
Well, you know what they say, you can't respect somebody who doesn't have a few enemies.

>>54932708
Daishi?

>>54933077
Blood Kite. A Daishi looks nothing like that.

>>54932946
All the houses made good claims to the right to rule. Davions are the only ones I feel respect the diversity of nations.

I would have sided with the Mariks, but their corruption has eaten them alive, they will be lucky to survive. Besides, there are times when it is so much better to live in a constitutional monarchy than in a republic.

>>54933140
They put too much faith in civilian leadership, and not enough support in times of war. It is how Rome fell.

And the clans are...well..
they're hopeless.
They are far too fragmented to ever present a unified front, and no individual clan is strong enough to rule over them all.
No alliance lasts for more than 5 minutes, and in all respects they have become carbon copies of the 5 great houses, only in microscale.

The Davions are still dicks, but they are the most charitable to live under, the most just in their dealings, and the most pragmatic in their military affairs.

As for Kurita and Liao, one doesn't choose their lineage anymore than one chooses their place in heaven.

The celestial bureaucracy spins its wheels, the Dracs die for glory, nothing ever changes.

>>54933209
And don't even get me fucking started on house stiener!

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>>54933209
Underdog is best dog. Xin Sheng a shit.

You know what would be neat? If CGL got with Hasbro using this new D&D game they are shilling and pitched a Battletech-themed Risk game. Or something that played similar to that ASoIaF board game where each player is a House.

>>54933444
>Battletech-themed Risk game.
not our call.

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Why are people talking shit to each other in universe some of the best moments of Battletech?

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That poor guillotine took multiple through armor crits to the gyro in one round. I still list though.

Alright, if I had to pick a list, (for a god damn 'lance') it would have to be a combined arms list, Jihad Era, and contain a Fafnir and a VTOL.

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>>54933576
Oh, hey. Is that one of those erasable chessex mats? I've used those before. They're neat. Last time I played on one we were out of markers though so used some random bits out foam out of the army boxes for terrain. It was crazy and everything kept shifting around slightly like icebergs but a whole ton of fun.

>>54933505
Which is why it'd be a pitch, genius.

>>54933679
I guess I would take a C1 Catapult, An old school Marauder, and a old school Rifleman with the AC/5's. That and a Shrek PPC carrier.

>>54933713
You sayin' you know a guy?

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>>54933713
>>54933444
What's wrong with the original version?

>>54933726
Do I look like CGL? I said it'd be cool if CGL did it. If I were part of CGL and could do that, yeah, I would, if I knew someone at Hasbro. But they have an in with Hasbro now because they're doing that D&D game. Which is why I suggested it.

>>54933744
Well fine, re-release that. I totally forgot about it truth be told.

>>54933716
>>54933679
I'm thinking, for a scenario, that Davion is taking his young nieces and nephews out for a spin in some learner tyke mechs with half the AFFS in orbit above them on some vacation world, when BAM! Some red-hedded successionists bumpkins with a hair up their ass about the Monarchy try to take them out with ancient tanks and vees.

Outnumbered 2 to 1, they stand their ground and manage to chase away the successionists. This causes a national outcry amongst the potato farmers of sector 7 gamma and leads to some quick politicking and a favor from someone in house Stiener who the Davions keep in close confidence.

Situation under control. Everything back to normal.

>>54933744
I had no idea that existed.
How did it do?

>>54933529
I am glad to see that even when they pushed Devlin Stone as this saviour of all Inner Sphere, they had the good sense to voice out a different opinions about him.

>>54933782
you know, whichever Davion.
I can hardly tell them apart.

>>54933803
Pretty good. Still gets played to this day.

>>54933744
I fucking miss the era of chit wargames.

>>54933782
the rest is just filler.
You show me my way to editing room, I'll finish the text for you.

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>>54933782
>>54933882

I'd say dump the Outback angle and go for Weekend at Bernies on Mizar. You got a TTS PDF for the world and everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCTgcZ6ImsQ

>>54934005
Oh man, reruns.
So many reruns.

Wanting to do a short liao vs davion campaign and need a few good liao units to pick, anyone got suggestions besides the death commandos, warrior houses or the mac n cheese. Era is post jihad.

>>54934104

Those are the good Liao units, anon.

Unless you want to field the Red Lancers, who are randumbly the best unit the game has ever had, because XIN SHENG XIN SHENG

Their other commands are just mooks.

>>54934129
Im cool with mooks :)

>>54933914
or, you know, I can pick out a fanfic, make it look nice and pretty, give it some polish. But I can't do both. You can't be a writer and and editor. You can't be a prostitute and a pimp.

And I'm a writer dammit. Thats what I get paid to do. And if you can't pay me, I will find somebody else who will.

>>54934225
You can send it back as many times as you like. You can tell me its trash. You can set my manuscript on fire. Because its yours. You paid for my words.

What you do with them is your business.

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>>54934104
These dudes. Read up on them a little; they're pretty cool, honestly. Their history stretches way back. Sadly they get eliminated around 3067 or so.

>>54934278
>>54934104
>post-Jihad
It's like I really can't read! Sorry about that. Try... Marshigama's Legionnaires? They have a crab with a mohawk as an insignia. What could be cooler?

>>54934295

Hey thanks! Even if they got pwned im sure i could get away with using them, i mainly chose the era to not get stuck in pre clan invasion mech selection.
Any other interesting liao units? They don't need to be elite. Xing shenanigans!

>>54934295
Are they even still around by that point? If anything by that age I would think Ju-Lei probably blew the unit's finances on cosmetic surgery.

>>54923899
OK call me stupid but I only see 5 mechs named
Locust
Griffin
Wolverine
Thud
Beemer(I don't know what this is)

What's the rest?

Also is there any word on pricing. I'm just starting out and would really like some models and boards rather than the paper cut outs on old 40k bases and printed maps on cardboard. While these fit the purpose I would just like something more.

>join a community
>community seems to be imploding

Well I am so clueless it hurts.

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>>54935330

The thing you have to understand about battletech is nobody hates battletech more than battletech fans, and nobody hates battletech fans more than other battletech fans.

>>54935256
Beemer= Battlemaster
About pricing there have been some guesses about it, nobody outside CGL knows for sure yet , most people predict to be around 30-50 dollars.

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>>54931549
>As for the Drawfags, yeah it's been a while since I saw the one dude; Pencilbro I guess? The one who did the Merlin and Thanatos and all that. I recall him talking about doing /btg/TRO work potentially. That'd be sweet.

As >>54932708 said, the guy doing the fancy redesigns is someone else. My choice of aesthetics is a little more ... 80's?

>>54935330
It's always been like this

>>54901023
How is Dougram anyway, is it good?

>>54935400
>The thing you have to understand about battletech is nobody hates battletech more than battletech fans

To be fair, that's simply because no one aside from Battletech fans even realize it exists.

>>54937092
Dude, it's an anime from the 80s that still has a pretty big amount of fan art made for it.
I's not quite as good as VOTOMS (which has a billion shows and still doesn't show sings of stopping) but it is its rightful predecessor that doesn't disappoint. Being slightly worse than VOTOMS still makes it TTGL tier compared to crap of the era like Mospeada.

>>54937092
Watched it more than once. It can be slow at times because it delves into politics, economics and strategy, but it's a solid, really good show. I consider it one of my top favorites, decades of anime shows considering. It's a little Mary Sueish, but even with that, it's a really good run.

Someone started posting it on you tube, stopped, and then that Blue Gunner guy who runs the booru finished posting the rest of the series. There's also a torrent out there somewhere of it.

>>54937374
>There's also a torrent out there somewhere of it.

I think he should check in with /m/.
This stuff used to be hosted on baka.bt and nyaa.se.
With both of those going under, /m/ has been having an effort to preserve all the old shows (a lot of which they saved and translated on their own). Never quite looked into it but it would be a good starting point, I think.

>>54937433
You can try nyaa.pantsu.cat as it replaced nyaa and it might have it. If nothing else, you tube's got it.

>>54937433
>>54937501
Here: - https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8nsg3jpctdcaq/2016-11-23_FangOfTheSunDougram-Plus-Extras

Use that JDownloader in that pastebin to get everything really easily. This includes the extras like the movie documentary and some tiny shor films.

>>54929116
Props to you man, I thought you were coming here to gloat, so seeing an honest looking apology is nice.

I have access to the mods forum and eventually just gave up on lurking it due to it being 90% people complaining that adult life is hard, and circle jerking. The other 10% is MadCap pushing his deep anime obsession onto threads.
Any time it'd try to shed positive light on the fanbase (4chan particularly) they'd shit on me.

>>54937102
>To be fair, that's simply because no one aside from Battletech fans even realize it exists.

No, we know you exist, but because you troll yourselves so well you've become resistant to external trolls and thus aren't much fun to troll without doing too much homework

>Can't fish with an ERPPC, mate.jpg

>>54938110
>Can't fish with an ERPPC, mate.jpg

I've never understood this meme. It's demonstrably untrue. You certainly CAN fish with an ERPPC, just as long as you have no regard for the condition of either the fish or the fishing location by the time you're done.

Extend that analogy as you will.

>>54938680
I remember the last time I went fishing with an ERPPC. Rolled a headshot followed by a CT TAC on a largemouth bass. Easiest cleaning of my life; just had to skin and filet it.

>>54938680
The problem with fishing with an ERPPC is that the goal of fishing is not to kill fish. It's to catch them so you can eat them.

ERPPCs don't leave much behind to eat. Try fishing with a machinegun or APGauss instead.

>>54938826
technically speaking, wouldn't the ERPPC just boil most of the lake and cook the fish which were only in the general vicinity not at ground zero?

>>54938826
>It's to catch them so you can eat them.
No, the goal of fishing is to slack off in a boat all day swilling brewskies with your buddy and avoiding going to homesense with your spouse.

Catching fish is a totally different activity.

>>54938997
When going fishing, all you really want to catch is a buzz.

>>54938972
Grandpa taught me to fish with grenades, I kid you not.

Works really well, and yes you can eat them. The pressure wave kills them.

Looking back, Grandpa was pretty insane. Also did some bow fishing as a kid.

>>54938997

That's true, and it sounds like fishing with an Ultra-20 or RAC-5 would be great.

>>54939056
>When going fishing, all you really want to catch is a buzz.

Buzzaxctly.

>>54939056
Your grandpa sounds like a smart man who is a little impatient, not crazy.

Design Challenge:

A 'Fishing' Mech.

What 'fishing' means is up to the applicant, but a paragraph or two to justify it is expected.

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>>54939129
Dynamite! Dynamite! Explosion once again! Dynamite!...

>>54939129
Naga is best Fishing Mech. Inferior Freebirths can't compete with two Arrow IVs for harvesting entire lakes of fish.

>>54938826
>>54939081
Fishing with either of those would be kinda useless as the high velocity of those guns would mean that you shatter most the bullets hitting the water before they have a change to hit anything.

>>54939056
Has the right idea, just lob LRMs or SRMs on the lake and bring a mech sized fishing net.

>>54939376
Wrong.

SRMs and LRMs are comparatively flimsy. All missiles are. They'd survive hitting the water even less well than AC rounds.

Get a quad with leg mounted SRT launchers or artillery.

>>54939129
Already exists:
sarna dot net/wiki/Aquagladius

First, shock everything around you with that taser, then flail anything that still moves.

>>54938680

Way to turn a pretty depressing thread around. Thank you. This has suddenly gotten much more fun.

>>54939710

I was thinking a Crusader with the leg SRMs torn out for SRTs, and as a side bonus it PROBABLY wouldn't get a side torso TAC and an ammo explosion if its primary opponents are ordinary fish.

But goddamn if that isn't a good answer.

>>54933194
lol it's like I'm reading a Stackpole book

>>54933529
Pasquale is right

Hey /btg/. If you, say, used a standard Blackjack figure to represent a BJ2 Omni, would you call that proxying or "close enough"?

>>54940503
There is a very old motivational pic where replacements were used for BT assets. I think stacks of coins or something were used for buildings or units. Do what ya gotta is what I say, as long as everyone knows what unit it is.

>>54940503
As long as you state it's the Omni and stay consistent, I don't see the problem in a pick-up game. Tourneys might take umbrage but that depends on the organizer. I mean it's still a Blackjack, and you can fucking use pennies or bottle caps to represent your stuff, by RAW. So I wouldn't sweat it too much. Just be clear at the start of the match. I mean nobody expects you to modify your minis to represent each variant you use, do they? Nah.

>>54940652
Ayo BG how much more sorting does the booru need? I am just curious if things are starting to shape up or if you need more help.

>>54940666
I've been working hard on it lately. We could use all the help we can get. I started all the way from the first pic and just started going one after another. I think I am making good progress, but there are so many...
Any help is appreciated!

new thread!
>>54940672