Legend of the Five Rings General: Pretty Pretty Pony Princesses

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Rule 34 when, needs more MILF ass

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>>54782110
The most wanted MILF this side of Ryoko Owari.

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All the female Champions have been great. Looking forward to Scorpion, though oddly enough I hope FFG doesn't go the AEG route of making every last Scorpion woman a sultry slut just because Bayushi Kachiko was the original L5R sultry slut.

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>>54781912
When you need to just fuck their shit up, with more military skill than most of the (unhonoured) Clan Champions

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>>54782265
The Scorpion Champ right now is Shoju. We'll probably get Kachiko in a monthly cycle thing or part of one of the deluxe boxes eventually

>>54782313
Here's hoping Shoju doesn't fuck up so hard this time as well.

>>54782275
I'm really glad they added the "weapons only" clause to this guy. He was so useless in certain matchups.

In fact I'd say the Unicorn design is very solid overall. They addressed a lot of concerns with some reasonably clever solutions.

>>54781912
Captive Audience is pretty cool. I foresee a lot of splashing into Crab and Lion decks.

>>54782391
Core set cards are evergreen, so while I don't think a champion shakeup won't happen one day I don't think we're going to see any of the core set ones crash and burn immediately.

I figure future new champions will come in the deluxe boxes since those are the only other evergreen card sets and there might be some kind of deck building rule introduced about not being able to run both in one deck.

>>54782534
To be honest, I fear more for Hotaru than any of the other Champions. Her fiction paints her as entirely too pure, she killed Toturi's brother personally and is in a relationship with Kachiko but doesn't have Hoturi's dickery to keep up with her. She seems like she's being set up to make a really bad move.

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>tfw no ganbarimasu gf

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>>54782774
She is too pure for this fallen world. The trials of her clan are going to eat her up

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>>54782625
I think she'll be okay. She's skillful and pretty which is enough for the Crane to succeed usually.

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ZOMBIE HORSE SWARM

>>54783760
Fucking Dark Moto again.

>>54783760
Onikage up in this motherfucker

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>>54783790
It isn't actually zombies, but you're still playing cards from discard.

>>54783870
I know.

But it's still fun.

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Is there a previously previewed Battlemaiden card? I find it weird we'd get Utaku Infantry before we get the iconic shiotome.

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>Got that bitch a horse. Bitches love horses.

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>>54784078
Horses are pretty great.

How does the influence system work in L5r, what's the base amount you can spend? - seems like you can give a guy a horse for 1 inf, and it's a pretty nice ability

Captive audience is 3, I noticed, but it looks fun

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>>54783938
There's this lady, from a French preview article some time back. She's the Unicorn's 3 cost unique character.

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>>54783938
>>54784228
Here's a translated proxy card of her.

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>>54784219
Your stronghold card tells you how much influence you have to spend -- it's the number next to the bamboo symbol on the bottom right of your stronghold. You also get 3 extra influence if your clan has a Keeper role.

From there, you spend your influence on including cards in your conflict deck. You can only splash one clan at a time, however. But, say, with 13 influence (core stronghold + Keeper role) one person could splash 3x Captive Audience and 2x Spyglass into their deck.

>>54784228
Oh lord, those French. Her keyword there literally means ''virgin of battle''.

>>54784412
Horse maintenance doesn't count, hohoho

>>54784455
I'm honestly not sure how I would translate it better. Maiden is one of those words that has a lot of individual connotations in English, and I don't think you could find a word in French that would cover the right mix of them.

>>54784502
Spanish has "doncella", and from there you could use "damoiselle" if my dictionary is right. Besides, there was not actual requirement for the shiotome to remain virgins in 1E - they just had to keep from getting knocked up too early into their careers.

>>54784502
Judging by Joan of Arc, pucelle?

>>54783760
At one point, this card could pick up Bushi. It was absurd, especially with >>54783938

>>54784565
>>54784581
Demoiselle might be good, since it connotes nobility along with youth, and the virginity aspect is an undertone, rather than an overtone.

Purcell is old enough French that I don't have a good enough feel for it to judge one way or the other, but my impression is that it connotes virginity much more strongly.

Part of the difficulty is that maiden has a connotation in English that it inherits from its Germanic roots that doesn't seem to be present in French; X-maiden already implies ''female combatant'' for us because of sheildmaiden and similar constructs, and the form has no automatic implication of virginity or marital status. But a quick Google for a translation just gives escrimeuse, which is simething like 'lady fencer'.

Come to think of it, a single-word like that or maybe cavalière might be better than anything ''de bataille''.

>>54784861
Translations be hard, yo.

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Another Scorpion spoiler has shown up.

Watch your backs out there, everyone.

>>54785401
Now I wonder if Dark Sword of Bitter Lies will be a thing from the getgo.

>>54785401
Hmm, that "cost 6 or less" thing seems to be a repeated pattern >>54783760 - wonder who else will have it?

>>54784289
Ah thanks - only 1 splash at a time is an interesting limitation, but it makes sense for alliance stuff.
And none of the Core strongholds (might there be new strongholds going forward? I'd guess so) have anything other than 10, so yeah, the "keeper/seeker" thing could be pretty important

>>54785567
>Hmm, that "cost 6 or less" thing seems to be a repeated pattern >>54783760 - wonder who else will have it?
Scorpion and Unicorn are the last two factions to be revealed. We know all of the Crane and Lion cards, are missing one Dragon card (a 0-1 cost event), one Crab card (a 2-3 cost character), two Phoenix cards (a 1 cost character and a 2-3 cost character), and one Unicorn card (a 0-2 cost conflict character). We also have all but one neutral card, and the last neutral card is confirmed to have something to do with changing your honor dial bid.

So I doubt we'll be seeing this anywhere else, at least in the core set.

>>54785567
Scorp got spoiled today on a card that does the same thing but you play from hand or your provinces.

I have three of the Launch Kits ordered, how much do you think people would pay for a complete kit?

>>54785819
Fair warning, FFG has a habit of reprimanding and even blacklisting stores that sell Launch Kits straight to individuals instead of using them for their intended purposes. If you want the store you're buying this from to continue to get promotional / tournament material you might want to run the actual tournaments.

>>54785846
Funny, it's been like this for about two years now and FFG hasn't done anything

>>54785808
Didn't realise we'd seen so much, I'm only half following it

>>54785924
Here's a spreadsheet that tracks everything we've seen, by card number, if you want to see the whole spread:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vUzqEqnHtFnl24SKACZTqyiHhrOW9HQzTBjYAbAuaKU/edit#gid=1083018885

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>>54782313
>"I roll to attack the Emperor!" - That Guy

I played l5r since crimson jade till Diamond, and I do not know how to feel about this game. The arts are nice, but I can't get my head around the game play. I constant feeling that the stats are in the wrong place, and I try to draw at wrong moments or replace stuff in provinces at the wrong time.

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>>54782110
>mfw I see my new champion.

>>54786076
You'll get used to it eventually.

FFG actually wrote on their website you'll need two core sets to build a tournament legal deck on launch. What a cunt of a company.

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>>54783201
>The trials of her clan are going to eat her up
>Implying that we will get any

The autism of the Phoenix fans will be too much for FFG, there will be no maho or black scroll faggotry for the Phoenix, and you can screencap this.

>>54787126
>The autism of the Phoenix fans will be too much for FFG
>there will be no maho or black scroll faggotry for the Phoenix
These seems like contradicting statements.

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>This is FFG's core audience

Watching a guy try to explain MLP to functional humans is hilarious

>>54787541
Shosuko is not one of my favorite posters on their site.

>>54787290

The anti-maho Phoenix rage is over 9k on the FFG forums already.

>>54785401
Seems kinda like a worse charge, given the extra setup you'd have to do, but ok.

>>54787597
Examples/ link?
FFG forums have been pretty entertaining over these spoilers

>>54787883

There were a few examples in the recent topic about the Unicorn fic and another about the Meishodo storyline. There is one guy who is especially angry about maho being associated with the Phoenix, if you can find him his posts will lead you to the sweet stuff.

>>54787947
You might be talking about Gunichi. That guy is an ancient by any measures.
If anyone has infinite saltmines about Phoenix details, it's him.
>>54785401

>Ambush sitting between Kitsuki cards
Cheeky.

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>>54788375
They've been doing that with Scorpion reveals lately. Every day or two one image in an old article gets edited to have a Scorpion on it -- once it wasn't even a visible image, but you had to click on a hotlink to see Hida Tomonatsu's card and it came up pic related instead. They're having a lot of fun with these, it seems.

>>54788375
>That guy is an ancient by any measures.
God yes, he's been around in some form or another since I got into the game through the launch of the 4e RPG and he was an oldfag then. Its been eight years since then and his hate has only intensified

>>54788375
>>54787947
>>54788590

Oh yes, it's him. this is unbelievably ancient salt, slat only formed by following something you hate for years. Hope FFG/good Phoenix players double down on maho just for the sake of seeing him explode

>>54788627
He is an Isawa. Exploding in one fashion or another is not a question of IF, but WHEN.
Also, the Unicorn card reveal discussion has completely degenerated into a MLP discussion. Figures

>>54788735
>He is an Isawa. Exploding in one fashion or another is not a question of IF, but WHEN.
And then the Shiba sigh and flip the relevant page on their Big Handbook Of What To Do When The Isawa Inevitably Flip Out.

>>54788971
I don't want to know how many volumes that thing had towards the end of the storyline.
Shiba, paragorns of patience and babysitting.

>>54789205
They all boil down to kill them to protect the Phoenix, and then kill yourself because you've stained your honor with the blood of the Isawa

2 for greater glory and 2 banners or
3 for greater glory?

What do you figure is the better unicorn splash

>>54790365
>Buy your bitch a horse. Bitches love horses.

>>54789334
Realistically? 2x Tattooed Wandered 3x Let Go.

But in terms of fun? I'd go double Sashimono, double FGG. You won't always want FGG, but Sashimono is straight value for Unicorn, especially with Giver of Gifts to keep the Sashimono in play.

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>>54791226
I'm going to see what more grills in my area play. There's a few who I think might take the L5R plunge when it hits, I wonder if there'll be a pattern.

>>54791385
>>54791385
Let Go is basically going to way over favor Dragon for splashing until we get some other attachment losing effects in other clans. It is just so tempting to tell people who Cloud the Mind or try to use Pacifism to get fucked

>>54791390
My L5R scene had a lot of women, though they were more into the RPG side of things. But they did kimono events and shit, hardcore fans.

>>54791445
>But they did kimono events and shit

Great. More cultural appropriation.

>>54791480
It's cool, they were in the Third World anyway.

/tg/ what is your favorite minor clan

>>54791662
Sparrow.

>>54791480

You going to complain about asian dudes wearing jeans and flannel shirts as cultural appropriation too?

>>54791704
is joke, anon

>>54791480
I wish I could hate you to death.

>>54791719

Well, I can't tell on the internet anymore. Some people really do think that way seriously you know.

>>54791788
This is 4chan, dude. The only things that are earnest here are racism and horniness.

>>54791704

Why? Asians can't culturally appropriate anything. Only white people can, because cultural appropriation comes from a position of cultural dominance.

>>54791480

People called this cultural appropriation, and Epic pulled the ad and cancelled the entire product line. Fuck you and everyone like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtQsxbF-aQ

>>54792014
I'm Asian and that's the most retarded thing I read all week.

Thanks a lot, /pol/. Geez.

>>54782265
>>54782313

Yeah, but we were told that the Clan Champions were all going to be the same gender as their founding kami to justify this gender bent Hoturi shit, then BAM. Pheonix champ is Tsukune.

So why not make Shoju a chick? Hell, I bet Kissada is a woman traped in a mans body now. That's the REAL reason the Crab ally with the shadowlands, so Kissada can get cool Akutenshi shapeshifting powers and get the sex change she's always wanted.

>>54792129
I'm Japanese. I can tell you that most of them don't care if you are dressing like them, as long you are not being a dick about it.

>>54792164
Yeah, like this Japanon said, it's fine if you put on a kimono, but only purebred Japanese get to wear a kimono while drunk and playing ping pong so hard you're trying to kill the person on the other side of the table with your serves.

Don't you stupid round eyes know anything?

>>54791480
See this? >>54792150 Thanks a lot, tosser.

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>>54792164

This. Fuck knows I'm racist against pretty much everyone who isn't Chinese (and it hurts me physically to be agreeing with the Jap).

Take this. >>54792078 That video isn't cultural appropriation in the slightest. Sure, there's a bunch of white people in various asian-flavored costumes (mostly Japanese, but there's other influences, particularly in the monk), but for fuck's sake, Epic Armoury is a company in Denmark and it's not like there's a whole lot of Japanese larpers in fucking Denmark. It hits a few mild sterotypes, but that's mostly in the narrarion and mostly in regards to "honorable samurai" and shit, which isn't insulting at all. And, to be honest, the fighting and general quality of the video is really nice for a larp. I honestly expected to see something a lot more like pic related.

Somebody who's offended at that video is someone who will take offense to anything. They're LOOKING to take offense. Bad form on Epic Armoury for pulling the ad from social pressure.

>>54785954
hasnt the other neutral air province been spoiled? i thought i had seen them both already

>>54792014

I'm asian and I wouldn't care, if anything I'd encourage it.

Do the shi-tien yen-wang give anything to their followers, or are they just worshiped so they don't continue their curse on the unicorn? The moto death priest description says that they are revered, but I'd think they would be mad that they cursed them.

>>54792897
After joining the Rokugani pantheon, the Lords of Death become the arbiters of punishment in the afterlife, and are concerned with the punishment of evil-doers in life as well. The Death Priest Technique is an invocation of their power just like any shugenja can invoke the other Fortunes with the right spell, and disregarding magic, worship of them is probably good for your afterlife-- not in the sense that they favour their servants with lower punishments, though I suppose they might, but that by living according to the precepts of the sentencing judges of the afterlife, you are likely to know just what kinds of things will land you in Gaki-do or Toshigoku, and your lifestyle will naturally shun them.

The other thing to bear in mind is that worship of them is a spiritual duty that *somebody* has to perform; regardless of the bargain that got them there, they are a part of the pantheon, and they perform a spiritual function. As legitimate Fortunes installed in the Celestial Order, they are entitled to reverence, and would be even if their position had been gained for reasons other than lifting their former curse.

>>547943336
Thanks for clearing that up. Also, I don't think that they would impose lesser punishments on their followers, given that they are described as harsh but fair.
Also, nice trips

>>54792408
It has not been, no. It's probably draw a card instead of gaining a fate, though. Either that or gain an honor.

Is it just me, or does it seem like a badly thought out design choice to have Military and Political conflicts simply be different "flavors" of conflict, without having different outcomes?

You might as well just call em Red and Blue conflict, since they basically do the same thing. It feels a bit too gamey, and makes the game less fluffy imo.

>>54794186

To expand on this, I feel like lot about conflicts and the feel of the game in general was lost in this new edition, honestly.

The way that followers work now is just sad. I liked how personalities were strong leaders, and followers were usually groups of soldiers and when you put the cards together you'd make a neat military unit. It actually made conflicts feel like armies clashing.

I know this is autismo at its finest, but having followers now just be "personalities you can play from your hand" makes things a bit silly.

Describe you character's katana, if you have one

>>54794186
It's just you. Balancing 5 outcomes for political and military would prove to hard in modern fast changing metas. Plus all outcomes are perfectly explainable in both military and political way. Adding different political outcomes would only complicate the game without making it any better.

>>54794596
It's long, a bit on the round side, made out of solid iron, and covered in spikes.

>>54794596
Sharp

>>54791480
This is 4chan not tumblr you everloving nigger cunt.

>>54792325
fun facts about that video:
>It was made in the US.
>They wanted to use asian actors
>Asian actors didn't show up
>The fight choreagrapher and his wife I think jumped in with a few other guys who could be there on a short notice
>SJWs were triggered big time
>Fight choreographer got death threats because of the video and some guy even went to the svhool where his kid is to take pictures and send it tohim with some spooky message

>>54791662

Oriole. I like me some craftsmen.

>>54791662
Badger, man.

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>>54791662
Badger is best.

Only one clan will respond to an iaijutsu challenge by choking a mofo out.

>>54783760

Used this to bring back Altaransai and 2 Moto Youths today.

Then played For Greater Glory so those reserves stuck around to help butcher some bitches

>>54796390
We are at most 1 year away from SJWs kidnapping the children of people who wrong think so they can rise them in a "safe space".

>>54797052
So this might be a stupid question, but which clan do you mean?

>>54781912

So I've been doing some reading on this, as somebody who really only was into the RPG, but did enjoy the LCG format for Netrunner. Looking at this for deckbuilding it looks like your choices of province strongholds gives you your influence amounts, and then you can only splash event cards/attachments, right? So, no random scorpion assassins in your deck, just tricky events.

>>54798146
There are characters in the conflict deck that can be splashed.

L5R 2019.
Deck building has devolved into 40 holdings and 40 Conflict Characters.
Crane honors out first turn by spamming card draw, 0 cost dudes, and honor combos.
Final game of the World Championship did not even take a full turn.

>>54798216
you can only have 10 characters in your conflict deck

>>54798259
Sorry I am going off playtester stuff. The Ninja Stronghold coming up will allow unlimited chars in conflict.

>>54797832
Lion or crab at a guess.

>>54798276
That doesn't seem like either though. The crab will still duel you and are usually pragmatic enough to not duel people, and the lion are so honorable that they'll go through with the duel even if they will most likely lose.

>>54795477
Not sure exactly what you mean by a bit on the round side, but other than that, sounds pretty cool

>>54795959
Good answer.
Also cool complex dubs

>>54798455
>Not sure exactly what you mean by a bit on the round side, but other than that, sounds pretty cool
It's a tetsubo.

>>54798455
He's saying his ''katana'' is actually a tetsubo. I suppose it's what passes for a joke among Crabs.

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>>54798515
>>54798535

obligatory

I'm sorry guys the joke missed. My special brand of autism said 'huh, swords aren't usually round and katanas don't usually have spikes or are round. Must not really know much about katana' and I never realized.

I shall commit seppuku to cleanse my shame.

>>54797832
>>54798276
Badger.

Why the fuck Unicor is the most op clan ever ?

>>54799002
Dishonor Crab shuts them down really hard.

>>54799002
Because you are bad, and you should feel bad.

>>54799111
Dishonor Crab is the meanest deck out of the core from what I have seen.

Getting people down to 3~ honor is not hard then just drop some levy on them when they don't have any Fate left.

Super easy to push into a lock where they can't skip conflicts and can't play cards during them without losing the game instantly.

>>54799002
Lmao they are actually the weakest. Try playing before you talk.

Now, they might become hella OP within the first two cycles. But not in core.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/8/10/smokeless-fire/

>>54800377
>First choice of the game
> Fuck up unicorns or possibly fuck them up in the future

Holy shit, I guess this is what happens when you let bronies run wild on the FFG forums

>>54800377
The game hasn't even launched and I already hate the Phoenix. What an incredible achievement by the writing team.

>>54796390

>>54792078 here. Jesus christ, I had no idea about any of that. That makes it even worse. Both in the fact that people getting triggered by it is insane, and the fact that Epic still pulled it when the production team did literally nothing wrong.

>>54800377
Don't fuck this up, assholes, meishodo owns.

Also I thought the first story decision was the Emerald Champion?

>>54800717
>The game hasn't even launched and I already hate the Phoenix.

If the Phoenix weren't doing stupid shit and you <didn't> hate them, though, you'd say that the game wasn't being true to its roots.

>>54800761
That's fair. But this is a bad hate. If they were messing around with maho like usual, I would hate them but enjoy it at the same time. This meddling with the Unicorn shugenjas' whole shtick just makes wish the writers had done something else.

>>54800377
A whole truckload of card names were gleaned from that tutorial deck PDF. We now know the name of every non-Scorpion card in the core set. We also have a complete list of card counts and know how many of each card is in the core set. Specifically:

Every single clan affiliated card is 1x.
The following neutrals are 3x:
>Otomo Courtier
>Seppun Guardsman
>Miya Mystic
>Wandering Ronin
Every other neutral card is 2x.

This is now 100% confirmed thanks to the tutorial deck PDF.

>>54801260
>Every other neutral card is 2x.
I should clarify, just for clarity -- every other neutral dynasty and conflict card is 2x. Neutral provinces and role cards are still 1x.

I guess this vote is going to come down to how hated Unicorn decks are. If they are as annoying as LSD used to be way back when, they'll have a hard time in the final decision. Otherwise, I expect people to realize that this sets a dangerous precedent for the Phoenix to shit on the magical legacies of every other clan. In 1E, the meishodo issue was first settled by the similarities it had with Asahina fetish crafting; who is to say the Phoenix won't shit on the Crane using the same arguments if relations between them go sour? Or any other clan, for that matter. For the same reasons, if the Phoenix have their way I expect some brutal preemptive retaliations from clans aside from the Unicorn, so Shiba-leaning Phoenixes might not want to go along with their clan's wishes.

>>54802035
Unicorn is very aggressive but they don't strike me as particularly annoying. Phoenix was way more annoying, but they've made changes since then so maybe they're less PTSD-inducing.

>>54800377
So, the Burning Sands AND the Ivory Kingdoms tried to invade in the past.
The Lion clan is actually good for something in this timeline.

>>54802035
The Phoenix can try, but almost every shugenja tradition diverges at least a bit, and they all *have* to stay true to their own traditions in order to retain their powers. If the Phoenix push it, the imperials will probably move to shut them down. The Phoenix are traditionally the experts on magic, but it's not their official role, which is why they have to compromise to get all the void shuggies, and can't just overrule the Jade champion directly.

>>54803471
>can't just overrule the Jade champion directly.
reread the story, the Jade champion and his magistrates have not existed for centuries, it seems

I've got a feeling that the vote will probably tie in to who becomes the first new Jade champion, since regardless how the vote goes, his magistrates will be needed once more

>>54803656
I'm talking about when the Jade champion does exist.
The office languished, but only after a looooong concerted effort from the Phoenix's elemental council to discredit it.

So you need two cores for complete sets and you're left with a bunch of duplicate garbage noone will need? Android all over again.

>>54803896
Still cheaper to maintain a decent deck for your clan of choice than a CCG. Not ideal but still better

>>54803896
You need three cores for complete sets.

Your third core will get you a playset of 167 different cards. Even if you do not care at all about any other thing in the box that's still more cards than are in a Big Box. In fact, if you look at price per card, the third L5R core set is cheaper per card than the monthly packs and big boxes are ($40 / 167 cards > $15 / 60 cards > $40 / 153 cards).

And frankly you're an idiot if you don't care about getting a second playset of your key neutrals.

No matter how you slice it L5R's core set is a better deal than any other LCG's core set. This isn't Netrunner where your third core gets you 9 cards, of which you care about 1-2. Basically every single card in the box will need a third core to complete a playset of.

>>54803896
3 if you want a complete set for every clan. If you go with 2 you'll have to play the dangerous game of trading.

>>54804042
>If you go with 2 you'll have to play the dangerous game of tradin
Or just wait a while for monthlies to round out your non-core options, but that will take a year or so probably.

>>54799280
how - tell me how !

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The Scorpion have stolen the Lion's attachments; be careful out there, folks.

>>54783870
I think its however you want to fluff it. Like how crab are into noble sacrifice and attrition tactics but eating people/blood magic also fits those cards.

>>54800722
well, you can get the whole story from a fellow fa/tg/uy, goes by the name NEA / Not Entirely Anon around here. He is the one who got threatened by the sjws

>>54786042

>d10s

Nice.

>>54791662

B o a r.

Or OG Snake.

>>54791662
Kitsune.

>>54791662
Wasp before the Mantis ruined them.

>>54807593
If the Mantis stays at the Minor Clan Alliance, I will be one happy Kitsune.

>>54807652
Or even better they make the Fox, Sparrow, and Wasp the leads of the Minor Clan Alliance as an expansion of the Three Man Alliance.

>>54791662
Bee.
No, not Wasp. The Bee Clan from Imperial Archives. They're like the Crane, only more insufferable and with a tighter focus on something even less practical.

>>54807704
BEEPOSTERS GO

>>54807766
No.

>>54807704
What did they focus on?

>>54807927
Judging art.

Beeposters are the scum of these threads and I will not rest until they are rooted out.

>>54807927
Art criticism and high fashion.
You can trust a Hachi to judge your art harshly, and with absolute truth. They get away with such directness because they only judge in public if asked and were literally founded for their founder doing exactly that in front of an emperor.
You can also trust a Hachi to be wearing this season's most in-fashion kimono patterns a week before everyone else picks up on the trends.

>>54808035
Anna Wintour-sama?

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Bayushi Shoju has appeared.

>>54808961
I can't make out the details besides his participating in a political conflict. What's it say?

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A zoomed in image.

>>54808977
Oh hey, that's sort of a version of the ol' Kachiko ability.

>>54808977
Chi death.
Kills a fair number of things if you dishonor them first.

>>54809059
Kisada best stay out of the kitchen if he can't handle the heat.

>>54809059
It would kill a dishonored Hotaru even if you can find a way to stack one more -1 political onto her.

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Here is a preview of the first cycle.
Enjoy the Shadowlands.

>>54809141
>Dinasty phase

kek

>>54809141
Nice try. Better luck next time.

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>>54809141

>>54807704
I did not know bee existed until today and I think they're hilarious. A clan dedicated to the judging of art, but not the making of art. They sound like enormous retards. I bet they even have the equivalent of posh British accents

>>54807389
I was just the guy who asked the question. I'm sad my personal favorite took so long ( I'm probably biased).

>>54799894

Lolno. Lion is weakest, and I say that as a Lion player.

Unicorn are pretty strong and fun senpai

>>54809591
Lion are top tier right now in the TTS meta. Second only to Dragon. Scorpion might shake that up, though.

>>54809669
>TTS Meta

What? Half the people I know on the TTS meta think they're weaksauce af

>>54809763
Ever since the charge/rout/court games reveal they've become ridiculous. Their deck is so slick and aggressive and it's got good matchups against everything so far out there. It still struggles with Dragon because it's fucking Dragon, and Kuroi Mori is also obnoxious as fuck, but the honor pressure is real and so is the province break pressure.

They were pretty weak before that update, though.

>>54809862

That might explain it.

Mind you, every game I've played has had the other clans having very easy ways to deal with their shit (especially Crane).

>>54808977
aww they cropped out his hand

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>>54810167
I know, the hand is the best part of the card

>>54809490
What the fuck happened to my grammar there? Did autocorrect fuck me?

>>54809036
Wasn't the old Kachiko ability "bow her and keep her bowed to slowly put poison tokens on someone until they die"?

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>>54810742
It was a Scorpion plot

>>54812872
I really want to appreciate her figure, but goddamn that's a stupid fucking dress.

>>54813188
>>54812872
We will never escape Genzoman, will we.

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>>54813207
I'm still holding out hope for FFG, but not much.

>>54813207
If that's Genzoman that is about as restrained as I've ever seen him

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>>54813434
That's not Genzo, this is his idea of Scorpion ladies.

Still a stupid dress, though.

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Mind you, he can hold back somewhat. He just doesn't, normally.

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On the other hand, you have Mario Wibisono, who while still going full-on fanservice at times (Togashi Korimi) can still do cute grills with sensible clothes.

Seriously, this Crane's outfit looks comfy as all hell.

>>54807704
based Lost Minor Clans poster

>>54813527
Asami a classy qt.

>>54813547
What about the Shark, anon. Who are legitimately my favorite MC from that book and only one of two I have so far made canon in my ongoing game

For real though, the Shark are fucking baller

>>54813634

Toku and Monkey clan are better anon

>>54813627
Wait they used her for another named character? I don't mind old character art being used for generics, but somehow it feels wrong to reuse it for a named character. She'll always be Kakita Kae to me

>>54813389
I don't hate Genzoman, but they're too fantastical in their clothing design to belong in l5r. (And the general characters are exaggerated and stylized.)

I wouldn't mind his work in a more focused game friendly to his style

>>54813685
https://fiveringsdb.com/bundles/card_images/kakita-asami.png

>>54813721
This bothers me since I save at least one instance of character art by character name. I now have a split which is lame.

>>54813771
Man, now I'm going to be bothered too.

>>54813721
>those rules

If you have more political skill in a political conflict don't you win? Can't it just say 'if you win a Pol conflict take an honor'

>>54813771
>>54813784
This is a new continuity, maybe its the same character but just got given a different name.

>>54813792
You will win. This is before winning, and before the opponent may have a chance to use buffs or jump in more dudes.

>>54813800
Hardly likely, since Kae lived some hundred years after the new timeline's present.

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>>54813710
To be fair to Genzo, L5R has never been particularly restrained in its art choices. Look at Yogo Asami here.

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>>54813851
And let's not forget Bayushi "Sub Zero Palette Swap #14" Aramoro.

Newfag here, is this game hard to get into? I like the style of it and the price model is less Jewish than magic

>>54816673
A bit hard, yes. You can read the rules online, though, and play it for free on Tabletop Simulator.

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>>54813527
Speaking of!

The art used on the actual card shops in more hair over the chest, of course.

>>54816673
kinda hard atm because its not out. Its easy enough to get into, 2 cores will get you roughly 3 decks. About 2 ok ones. 3 cores will allow you 3 solid decks assuming you don't need to splash the same clan (and work with 2x of many neutrals).

>>54812872
Who would wear a dress like that?

>>54819195
It looks like a cheongsam, but slutty. I think you can guess from that

>>54819195
Technically not even the character depicted as wearing it.
Kachiko is a slit, but her outfits were only revealing in that she showed her wrists and usually wore stuff that's body hugging. Showing that much skin would just get you in trouble.

>>54819662
It would get a Crane or a Lion or a non-Agasha Phoenix in trouble. Other clans have different standards of dress. Of course, the Crane try to enforce and heir standard on everyone else at every opportunity, but within a clan's own lands they don't really have sovmuch sway. You might run into trouble at an imperial event, though, even if you are one of those clans who show more skin.

>>54820030
But anon.

All Phoenix are non-Agasha now.

>>54820064
Which makes me sadder than the whole loss of the Mantis. I liked their big leaving the Dragon story and felt a shugenja family in the Phoenix who have a very different mentality than the Isawa was a good touch

>>54820138
The cause of the split was pretty dumb, but I did like the split itself. It introduced an ongoing point of contention between two otherwise largely harmonious clans, brought the Phoenix up to Family par while giving them a novel check on Isawa dominance, and made room for the creation of the Tamori, who are really cool.

>>54820880
But in the new timeline we already have an issue between Phoenix and Dragon regarding the Perfect Land sect, and Phoenix in general seem more meddling and willing to engage into conflict (not necessarily of a military kind, though) than before.

Why people assume that they know shit about this game from TTS when there are not enough cards spoiled - also Unicorns are OP

>>54821603
A pretty huge chunk of them have been though. Most of the cards of every clan, a bunch of the key neutrals, so on. It isn't a complete set but it is pretty full

>>54821673
Every clan but the Scorpion I mean

>>54821673
Speaking as someone with access to the entire card list, the only truly meaningful things that are actually missing from non-scorpion clans are the Keeper / Seeker Initiates and the last Crab character. The rest of the neutral cards are thoroughly mediocre ranging on bad, the missing Phoenix characters are solid but not amazing or game-changing, and the missing Dragon event is basically unplayable.

tl;dr, Crab feel weak right now because they're missing a bomb of a character and the Keeper and Seeker Initiates are actually really good. And no, I won't post what any of these things do, it'll all be public knowledge in a couple of days anyways ya'll can wait.

>>54821791
What about a small tantalizer, then? Why don't you tell us what Family this Crab bomb belongs to?

>>54822119
The name of the card is actually publicly known, thanks to the Suggested Decks PDF that L5R put out yesterday -- the missing Crab character's name is Vanguard Warrior.

Actually, I believe every non-Scorpion card name is known now, at least according to this document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vUzqEqnHtFnl24SKACZTqyiHhrOW9HQzTBjYAbAuaKU/edit#gid=1083018885

>>54820030
Kachiko's old art and description made it pretty clear that she doesn't dress that revealing. She doesn't have to, because she can achieve the same effect with attitude and a tight fitting, but completely covering and technically proper kimono.

>>54822764
It's one of those art/fluff disconnects. Most people won't be baring much skin at all, and Kachiko promised much more than she delivered on.

(Actually, does she sleep with anyone other than Hoturi? I remember Shoju stopping her on their wedding night because he knew she would never be his.)

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>>54823468
>Mirumoto Magic Missile

My sides are committing seppuku.

>>54823696
>I remember Shoju stopping her on their wedding night because he knew she would never be his
Being Shoju was pain. He is ugly as fuck but still gets a marriage to the hottest woman in the Empire then refuses to sleep with her because he knows it is an emotionally empty marriage?

>>54823735
Powerful, feared men with utterly fucked family lives seemed to be a thing in Scorpion in 1E. Hell, Shoju's deal is tame compared to Bayushi Korechika in City of Lies.

>>54823712
I'm always partial to Weeaboo Wilma and the Butter Samurai

>>54813634
Who are the shark

>>54824878
One Emperor had a bastard son with a maid, the kid was brought up secretly in the Imperial compounds as a samurai and when he was an adult his father declared him the head of a new Minor Clan. They're a bunch of refined sensationalists, in that they're educated and enjoy the finer things in life but also are philosophically inclined to try and experience everything.

So they also get blackout drunk and pick fights to experience the ecstasy of the kill and other shit. They have three prosperous coastal villages taken from the Crane and basically antagonize the shit out of them and sell their swords as mercenaries for sweet dosh, like a land locked Mantis.

>>54824919
They sound cool. Do they have a specific school, or are they dead or anything.

>>54824919
>>54824878
>The culture of the Shark Clan forsakes honor and embraces pleasure as a way of life. This hedonism is rooted in Jirozame’s own attitude, his resolution to enjoy all of life’s pleasures before his death. This includes the usual things enjoyed by many samurai, such as fine food and beverages, beautiful displays of art, and entertaining pastimes such as games and hunting. But it also extends to darker things such as recreational drugs, severe intoxication, and extra-marital relationships. While others in Rokugan may secretly share the Shark Clan’s lack of virtue, they conceal their shameful acts from the public eye. A Shark samurai, however, will easily discuss his visit to a nearby brothel, boast of his affair with another man’s wife, or drink himself into unconsciousness, all of this in front of other samurai. Surprisingly, this does not mean the Shark are verbally rude or uncultured. In fact, most of them come across as surprisingly well-educated and versed in many scholarly topics. (Jirozame himself considered pleasures of the mind equally important to pleasures of the body.)

Nihilistic hedonists, basically.

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>>54824967
Imperial Archives was published without schools. However the author of the MC segment wrote schools for them that were just cut for wordcount and he released them on the old AEG forums. They are, as he pointed out, not playtested but the basic ideas of what he was going for is in them.

The Shark one is fine, but I think some of the shugenja ones are really underpowered and the Raven Clan I'm iffy on. I'll share the schools PDF, but not Imperial Archives since it has my name all over it in the watermarks.

>>54824996
And the most likely scenario for their ultimate destruction is that either Jirozame's half-brother or his nephew (IE, one or two emperors down from the one that gave him the clan to begin with) gets sick of the Shark's shit and revokes their status, allowing the Daidoji (Or any clan with a grudge, which could include the Crab, Scorpion, or Lion) to go stomp their shit in.

>>54825128
Yeah. I have them alive in my game with the logic basically going 'well the Mantis lived as a Minor Clan for centuries'. They're douchey mercenaries nobody likes but employs happily enough to augment military forces when need be

>>54825022

The Jirozame Bushi is really fookin strong, and really lends itself for the good kind of MAXIMUM EDGE.
>Shark PC infiltrates bloodspeaker cult
>Brutally kills cult champion with School Tech
>Tells cult leader that the School Tech he used is called "Blood Follows"
>Cult leader likes it. Starts asking about the other Techs, but PC only tells him that "He will see it soon enough."
>Cover soon goes off, Shark PC goes berserk on the cult, slaughters everyone like a true Shark
>As he approaches the last survivor, the cult leader, covered head-to-toe in blood and viscera, sharpened teeth flashing with a wicked grin, and sword scratching along the wall, all the Shark says "And now... Death Comes!"

>>54825169
The Mantis don't randomly go into nearby villages (That they don't own, the Shark do avoid their own towns) and rampage around and steal and kill whatever and whoever they want. Their piracy is mostly deniable, while the Shark are completely open in being cross-border bandits.

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>>54825191
Oh shit, forgot bonus pic.

>>54825276
I always basically imagined it as the Carcharodon chapter symbol, a shark curled on itself

>>54825191
You mock him, but a dude covered in blood is coming at you with a swords like that would probably be terrifying

>>54825298

I always imagined the Shark Clan as samurai Carcharodons. Strangely grayish skin, teeth filed to look like shark fangs, weird red tattoos, serrated blades and heavy use of axes, fighting style focusing on causing maximum terror and wanton slaughter, cannibalism, and an odd tendency to disappear from the Empire only to return centuries later to wreak havoc on the enemies of the Emperor.

>>54791662
Ox clan.
Or failing that, centipede for an actually loyal clan

>>54825221
I figure that disguise them selves in such a way that most people know it's them, but they have no proof to convict them. There like the mafia during the prohibition, they know they're criminals but they can't prove it.

>>54825966
Officially, everyone knows who they are and could prove it, but the Imperials and the Crane both strongly defend them, because the Crane are pretty much paid off to not destroy them every time a pack of Shark samurai in full colors rolls through a town and either depopulate it or debooze it. Or both.

>>54782110
>>54782158

Anyone ever play a MILF in an RPG campaign?

>>54826422
Matronly dwarf cleric in a D&D game that got nowhere.

>>54826422
>>54826443
I think that you guys might be in the wrong place. I suppose the question still stands though

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BREAKING NEWS

The Scorpion story was snuck out, the link in the Unicorn article for their story has been replaced

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/55/13/5513e628-0128-4a37-8408-8e19a18fa6a1/the_world_a_stage.pdf

>>54827201
Kachiko is a bitch and I hope the Scorpion's first story decision involves removing her in some way. I absolutely will not tolerate another Scorpion Coup storyline

>>54827201
It's strange to see Shoju actually fighting.

Things to note:
- Yogo Junzo still exists.
- Kachiko intends to neutralize Hotaru somehow, actual feelings regarding her are still a mystery.
- The Scorpion actually offered the Crab men and materiel, but backed off because Kisada demanded too much control.
- Implications of Shoju wanting the throne, though he's nowhere near sure enough of his position to state it either publicly or 'privately.'

The Scorps seem to be more in a wait and see mode rather than having their fingers in all pies this time.

>>54827417
Kachiko wants the throne. Shoju wants to be ninjas.

>>54826443

My Shinjo battle maiden became the 'mother' of a gaggle of plucky orphan kids that decided to follow us from the various locales that we visited over the course of our travels with the party's reasoning being that if I could care for my Utaku warhorse, I could care for children. The Matsu beastmaster was also roped in using the same logic. We are now at the point in the campaign where all of the other party members are married with children of their own.

>>54827417
Shoju never wanted the Throne for its own sake. He believed he was preventing the return of Fu Leng by slaughtering the Hantei. Unfortunately 39 got away and Toturi's geisha shared the poison instead of giving Toturi the full dose.

>>54827201

Who is Dairu's actual father?

>yfw >>54813868 could be the next Emerald Champion

>>54827527
old lore it was the male version of Hotaru, but since they turned the Crane champ into a lady that's impossible. so who knows?

>>54827599

I don't seem to recall if Hotaru has any children.

>>54827417
Shoju doesn't seem to trust his wife at all.

He set up the meeting in a semi-public location with posted guards rather than a private location such as the bath.

The jirozame bushi has some mis-matched skills. It has courtier and etiquette, despite being (from my reading) essentially legitimized bandits and controlling a few small villages. Now I have not checked all of the books I have, but only one other school has these two skills, the bayushi bushi, and they are described as political tools of their superiors. They also have any one weapon, but no chance to take another weapon skill, in fact they can take another high skill (which makes them seem even more like a courtier, rather than a bushi). Why is this?

>>54828006
They're erudite and cultured legitimized bandits.

>>54827969
In the old fluff, Shoju was the one other man aside from Hoturi that Kachiko gave a shit about. Who knows.

>>54828006
The Jirozame are known for being cultured, but also crazy bloodthirsty. Their "normal" weapon is the nodachi, which uses the same skill as katana.

Also, your school skills are not the sum total of what your dojo can teach you, just the absolute core curriculum which is why you can have (almost) any skill and explain it away as your sensei taught it. If one wanted to use polearms, they can use some of their starting XP for that and just say that it was taught by their sensei.

>>54828006
The Bayushi Bushi are courtier-lite first, soldiers second.
Most other bushi are soldiers, guards/yojimbo, scouts, or duelists before anything else.
The Jirozame bushi are just... Hedonists. They don't have a major role as a school, because their clan's security is handled by the Emperor himself and the Crane Clan through Imperial bribery. They don't need to be soldiers or guards or watchmen or anything other than thrill-seeking nihilists.

I haven't played this game in years but weren't the honor win/loss conditions different in the old CCG? LCG is 25 honor for win and instant loss at 0 honor.

>>54828592
Old condition was weird, like you win at 40 honor and lost at -20 or something. I kind of prefer this being moderately simplified rather than a weird split that isn't even

>>54828635

That sounds more to what I remember, I distinctly remember Scorpion clans playing games at negative honor values at times.

>>54827500

Looks like it'll be omiai time if the party goes to winter court.

>>54827201
I'm really liking these jewelled mons that have been released with each story. They're definitely too complex to make standard heraldry, but as art pieces they're pretty sweet, and they could easily be simplified and stylised into modern versions of the sometimes very janky original art. I'd love to see Family mons done in this style.

>>54829019
No, no. Everyone go have an affair. That's half the fun of WC. Don't forget to befriend your local Shosuro for prophylactic herbs

>>54830008
What?

>>54829429

I know the Kakita is drooling to give the Matsu beastmaster and the Shinjo battle maiden makeovers. "Making them properly presentable to the Son of Heaven, to their estimable lords, and to their honored ancestors."

So, I'm making a kakita duelist who's supposed to be a prodigy of dueling and painting, which he views as similar. What advantages should I take to buff up both? Also, is the prodigy advantage worth it?

>>54831975
Prodigy is not worth it mechanically, but it does have some strong fluff implications. Talk to your GM.

There is a kata in the Book of Fire called "The Empire Rests On Its Edge", where you choose a High skill that gives you bonuses from it when the kata is active. It does make the skill more expensive to buy going forward though. There's also the Sage of Sword and Fan from, well, Sword and Fan, although that links Battle and Courtier in such a way that they basically become one skill.

>>54821791
Seconding this guy's opinion that the Initiates are quite good.

>>54832131
>Prodigy is not worth it mechanically
It's the equivalent of one rank in seven skills. (six for some schools)

That's not much when you're looking at skill rank 2 or your selection of school skills aren't all that, but when you have a good school and you've raised the skills a few ranks, the equivalent of an extra rank is worth a bit more than you paid for it.

>>54832388
The main problem with Prodigy is more the opportunity cost than the numerical cost; it takes up such a large proportion of your chargen advantage slots that picking it hugely limits what else you can take, which bites especially hard if you want anything that's chargen-only.

>>54827687
Her husband is also a mystery. IIRC, Hoturi's official wife was a fucking Kitsune of all things.

What's the differences between the clans gameplay wise? Some proper information please and not just >Crane: MUH HONOUR

I mean you can do it if you want because I can't stop you but I would appreciate some proper gameplay information.

>>54821791
So why post at all shitposting maggot ?

>>54813851

Oh god, that outfit. I'm sorry Genzoman, you were not that bad.

>>54830065
Its pretty accurate to Rokugan cultural norms in a joking way?

So, how bad is the Missing Limb disadvantage for a character who uses a katana? You can use a katana in one hand, right?

>>54834505
huge disadvantage will never be as good as good 2 armed swordsman

>>54832549
You have to be following that option rule for it to take effect, and even if you are, you have to look at what you're giving up rather than just blanket state 'no prodigy'. You can't suddenly become a child prodigy later on in life, but you *can* become blessed by a fortune or whatever.

>>54834505
Use your katana one handed, and start your duels katana unsheathed.

>>54833227
When I get home I'll get you, fampai. Assuming nobody beats me to it

>>54834575
Like a Dragon? How provincial

>>54832388
the main problem with prodigy is that it doesn't give you skill ranks, it gives you +1k0. as a reference point, +1k0 is ~+2 to a roll. So you're paying 12 XP for ~+2 to seven different rolls. Masteries are the important bits, and generally the reason people raise their skills, because if you want raw numbers, raising your stat is way more effective when you're already invested into a skill.

>>54830008
Wat from is this?

>>54830520

I sincerely hope they are prepared for a tsunami of suitors.

>>54833227
So here's the real, real short of what we know so far:

Crane are a straightforward Political conflict powerhouse, with a focus on honoring characters to upgrade their stats and lots of tricks to prevent enemies playing events or other tricks of their own that would dishonor you. Their military characters are good, including a really useful duelist, but not that many to make a uniquely Crane military deck focus yet

Lion are a straightforward offensive clan with good military and ability to get lots of dudes on the table, plus courtier and shugenja nonsense that helps support that and playing characters from the discard pile.

Dragon are all about putting lots of attachments on your guys on the table to make them solo province breakers and shit, as well as some weird Monk stuff that isn't really well rounded right now I feel. Might take a few monthly cycles for that to come into its own.

Crab have lots of big dudes you can put on the field and defensive choices that let you endure and strike back hard as well as milking sacrifice for buffs.

Unicorn are about being pretty pony princesses, and thus really hard hitting military with lots of techs to bring dudes into conflicts after they're declared to surprise and arouse your opponents who I must assume are horsefuckers.

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>>54836919
Oh shit I forgot Phoenix! Phoenix are jank incarnate, with a huge number of powerful effects that only work some of the time and confusing building block pieces to help you set those situations up. I like them a lot but suspect I suck a lot so will be losing a ton.

Scorpion aren't out yet.

>>54834550
Unless you're a Moto.

>>54830008

I did not think it was possible to sum up political correctness in a single image, and yet here we are.

>>54832388
In addition to not getting mastery abilities, you also don't get insight rank for it.
Buying all of your school skills to 2 the normal way only costs 2 xp more, gives you 7 more insight, and puts you that much closer to the mastery abilities of those skills.
It's literally only worth it if you plan to buy at least two of your school skills up past 7, and even then, you're setting up for a loooong term xp purchase, reducing what you can actually get in the present.

Is there any reason to take the Shosuro
Blade advantage?
Poison seems really hard to use.

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why are the FFG forums so cancerous?

>>54840854
>>54840854
All forums are cancer.

>>54840854

It's FFG AND the absorbed remnants of the AEG L5R forum.

>>54840528
Depends entirely on whether your GM lets you use the good poisons or not. The Shosuro Blade makes it much easier to use poisons, since you can coat it with the same motion you use to draw, making it very inconspicuous.

>>54842520
>since you can coat it with the same motion you use to draw
I didn't know that.
What book has the poison rules?

>>54842723
Poison is in the core book down in the GM section