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>>54751379
And for the sake of linking back, >>54739377

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>>54751417

How would your favorite meme game be different as a Starfinder game?

playing evil characters gets complicated.

What Starfinder class is the best to be a slutty gun girl who dual wields pistols?

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>>54751439

>>54751459
Dragons would be strictly improved

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>>54751474

>>54751379
OP I made a mistake this is the correct MEGA link

https://mega.nz/#!1XxViL6S!GoQXX0kJ7z0C4MNpLLL0GH9HEV6ub9zE3OoRIkqwPf0

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>>54751501

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>>54751515

>>54751484
How could the power armor accommodate all that thiccness?

>>54751514
Cool ransomware Oniichan.

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>>54751541

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>>54751562

Setting info soon, please!

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>>54751585

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>>54751417
Woo been looking forward to this! You're the best.

Time to make my Firefly-class transport ship.

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>>54751417
>Asmodean Helldrives
>Kuthite Shadow Engines
>PRayer-fueled cores of Iomedean Cathedral Ships
Anyone else so completely erect right now? Especially since Iomedae confirmed for 40k Cathedral Ships?

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>>54751514
>filesize
>22 bytes
Ahahahaha no.

>>54751707

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>>54751754

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>>54751379
As someone who is only mildly paying attention to starfinder until the full book drops, is paizo keeping their free OGL model? Can I throw a srd link at my players or are we stuck with pirated pdfs?

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>>54751781

>>54751558
>>54751754

Hey did you know that if you forget to move the folder to the file it makes you a moron that sucks dicks? fixing it now

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>>54751811

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>>54751801
It's on the table of contents.
>This product is compliant with the Open Game License (OGL) and is suitable for use with Starfinder.

>>54751837

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>>54751857
Game Mastering

>>54751872
Now that is some beautiful cover art.

>>54751872
that's pretty rad

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>>54751872

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>>54751957

>>54751379
>>54751558
>>54751754
>>54751822

Ok this should be the correct link to the correct file with the folder in it sorry for spilling my spaghetti everywhere

https://mega.nz/#!wSw3nRaY!rks9-Ps3KlcnRDc-jN_cFb1s5V-aAuehofq4XcKVqKE

>>54751460
Well yeah. What, did you think it'd be easy? You are probably not a bad person naturally, and to stay evil you have to do stupid shit that any normal person would probably realize wasnt a good idea in the long run.

If you're still evil midway through a campaign, you're either an idiot, playing in a game that railroads you into evil, or deliberately trying to find ways for your character to remain static and one dimensional.

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>>54751973
Fuck you

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>>54751992

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>>54752015

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>>54752078

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>>54751973

that's okay, thanks for putting it all in a mega Anon!

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>>54752107
Your welcome at least you believed in me Envoy-Chan

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>>54752119

>>54751982
You are thinking Chaotic Evil
Lawful Evil is the same as Lawful Good. Paladin "I must sacrifice for the good of all" Non edgelord LE "All must sacrifice for the good of all"
NE is just banking and business taken to its logical conclusion

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>>54752168

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>>54752240

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>>54752254
And now, we begin the final section of the book: The Setting.

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>>54752293

>>54752293
Much based, LeakAnon. Now to find what the heck off-kilter means...

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>>54752310

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>>54752338

Off-Kilter is a status. It basically means you are floating in microgravity or 0g. You have to spend your move to right yourself and take other minuses.

>>54752293
Thanks much, Leakanon!

Will you also be posting the Glossary, Inspired Media, and Index pages?

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>>54752364

>>54751690
>angry eyes and teeth painted on the nose of vehicles
based

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>>54752372
Yeah after this, but that's 2 pages, so it's barely worth mentioning.

>>54752386

>>54752371
Huh. So the big Ysoki Edge is if you're doing a lot of zero-G work or facing enemy casters who favor the effect.

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>>54752406

>>54751623

Fight for the God Empress?

Yeah being off kilter sucks ass. I just looked and it also gives you a flat -2 to attack and makes you flat footed(-2 AC / no reactions)

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>>54752426

>>54751801

There is going to be both an official SRD on paizo.com and an unofficial SRD run by the d20pfsrd people.

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>>54752415
>>54752443

>Rats excel at fighting in vacuum

I can dig it.

Starfinder any good or more PF shit?

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>>54752447

Does anyone else feel like preparing Starfinder campaigns will be a lot more work than preparing Pathfinder? Or am I just biased due to my lack of familiarity?

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>>54752475

>>54752254

Why are there CR 20 goblins?

Nah man you are just scared cause of the new content. Its ok, we wont judge you

>>54752485

It probably just seems that way due to the system being newer.

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>>54752494
Why not?

>>54752493

>>54752159
>Lawful Evil is the same as Lawful Good
Hi Luna. Shouldn't you be taking a nap?

>>54751515
I want luxurious quarters in the SS Love Boat!

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>>54752523

Thanks you so much for all your work Leakanon.
You're a legend now!
Are you planning on posting or do you have the first AP in PDF?

Is there an update on DHB's Intrigue character? Is he ever actually going to submit it?

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>>54752494

Wasn't there a level 20 NPC with one level in 20 different classes in Pathfinder? Besides, reintroducing a weaker enemy type at higher levels isn't unheard of.

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>>54752542

>>54752485
It's both for me. Running a campaign involving space travel, and other planets feels really daunting.

I'll be starting my players off at level 1 and on a moon colony that they won't be able to leave for awhile, until we're more used to the system.

So, consensus on Starfinder? Anyone played a session yet?

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>>54752544
Possibly, possibly. Plus there's also Ruins of Azlant 1, and Elemental Master's Handbook later this month.

>>54752565

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>>54752594

>>54751801
This is why you should pirate everything.

>>54752494
Because there are level 20 anything.

>>54752615
Especially DSP books.

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>tfw people are lining up for lewd Starfinder games already but you just want to hold out for nonlewd Dead Suns

I've even seen Starfinder games recruiting on F-List.

I wonder how Earth has advanced in Starfinder. What do you all think happened to it, considering the events of Reign of Winter and Strange Aeons?

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>>54752622
DSP?

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>>54752638

>>54752640
Dreamscarred Press.

>>54752636
Probably a blasted wasteland.

>>54752534
About god damn time you fucks wised up to that piece of shit.

>>54752640
Dreamscarred Press, they make 3rd party Pathfinder stuff.

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>>54752624

I mean, is there something stopping you from holding out for a nonlewd AP game?

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>>54752649

>>54752651
>>54752656
Ah. I tend to stick with Society almost exclusively, so I don't look at anything regarding third party releases.

>>54752215
That bottle of glowy eyeballs looks like a slice of pizza. Is anybody else seeing it?

>>54752590
Bump, also interested if I should care.

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>>54752682
>I tend to stick with Society almost exclusively
Why would you hurt yourself like that

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>>54752695

>>54752638
>evil dragons as investors in corporations
>Kamora, literally second amendment paradise
>Zo, where everyone worships spaceships
>Preita, where technomancers duel and shit for jobs
>mercenaries in ships with genetically engineered dragon copilots
>literally hong kong on the planet

FUCK

TRIAXUS IS COOL

>>54752653
>inb4 a starfinder campaign visits Earth and it has become Shadowrun

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>>54752719

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>>54752739

>>54752709
No regular non-Society group that I could tolerate dealing with. Perils of living in a college town. Either you're stuck with a bunch of kids or the good ones move away after graduating.

>>54752720
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

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>>54752760

>>54752658
No, of course not. I'm just impatient and also nervous that I won't make the cut when someone finally puts up an LFG for it because there will probably be lots of people apping.

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>>54752779

>>54752739
Gonna see if I can play a ported over Azlanti human, would be fun if my GM allows if and lets other people play the higher powered races

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>>54752799

Are you a mouthbreather and/or asshole? Cause I am always trying to find more peeps for my roll20 shit

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>>54752780

Anon, I would be exceedingly surprised if you had trouble finding a group to play the one Starfinder AP in existence.

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>>54752817

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>>54752834

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>>54752854

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>>54752893

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>>54752760
>terraforming a planet so it can be used as a ski resort

>>54752775
I mean, I would recommend online games but roll20 is a crapshoot and I wouldn't recommend any of the games that come out of here (especially if you don't like text games) so I don't know what to say. If it's working for you, I guess that's good enough?

I hope you can find a good group, anon.

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>>54752912

>>54752872
Kasatha Hellknight looks appropriately edge-lordy. Only way to make it more so is if the blue areas glowed red instead.

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>>54752941

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>>54752969

>>54752817

I am vastly disappointed by how Paizo opted not to space-ify the planes. Would it have killed them to devote an additional page or two to such a thing?

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>>54752989

>>54752999

The planes are infinite, all of them have technology on them in some places, and you can easily find outsiders with laser guns and plasma casters.

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>>54753016

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>>54753052

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>>54751379

Stat me /pgg/!

>>54752854
>The Augmented

Oh, this is perfect, I was just wondering earlier today if there would be room in the setting for me to play some monk-like character seeking perfection and enlightenment through augmentation and enhancement. Now I just need to decide whether he or she would side with the Cypremacy Collective, the techno-terrorists, or just be more of a stand-alone person with doesn't care what other people are doing if it doesn't interfere with them.

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>>54753075
And that's just about it. I'll post a few other finish-up pages that don't have content, but otherwise that's all of the Starfinder CRB.

>>54753052

Why Arshea?

>>54753098

Thank you for sharing, Leakanon. You're a good person, and I'm sure everyone appreciates you going through all this trouble.

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>>54753098

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>>54753105
Blah blah blah SJW agenda blah blah girl (male) blah blah neckbeards will get off to anything yadda yadda yadda. At this point I'm not fazed by anything anymore.

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>>54753314

>>54753016
Oh my god, Shelyn and Sarenrae hooked up.

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>>54753337

>>54752534
>>54752654
Sorry to burst your bubble but I have no idea what you're talking about. Someone namefagging I assume.

My point is that lawful LG and LE use different methods to achieve the same ends.

>>54753052
>Lissala

Yes!

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>>54753361

>>54753052
You know, is it possible that Azathoth is the Devourer? It would make sense, right?

>>54753361
>Star Wars: The Old Republic

moderate kek

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>>54753379
And done.

>>54753386
Azathoth is not a Devourer, he is Reality itself.

The Devourer is just anthropomorphized entropy.

>it's a 'players complain about realistic booby traps set up by guriella fighters' episode

Hope you like getting filth fever because you stepped in a hole full of spikes and shit.

>>54753361
>VA-11 HALL-A

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So how are these guys doing nowadays in 317 AG? Did James Jacob and friends remember them?

>>54753105
I want to be a faithful Arshean porn star spreading her message (and legs) throughout the Vast!

>>54753425
They've moved on, probably because the Pact Worlds don't need their special brand of touch.

>>54753052
>>54752941
Happy that my boy Abadar has got so far, and that Calistria is still trucking: paranoid xenophobic elves are going to have a lot of revenging to do, after all.

Interesting bit about Shelyn, too, and the Kuthite amputee torture cumdumpsters actually getting MORE prominent, of all things.

>>54753406
That would still suggest a connection between Azathoth, a fundamental god (something that always was and was always a god, I mean) of entropy and mindless destruction and the anthropomorphized form of entropy, wouldn't it? I wonder if Paizo will play with that idea or not.

>>54753090

Volley Gun

Misfire 5 9d10 x4 Reload 3 full round actions.


This gun fires all 9 barrels at the same time at a single target. Imparting a -10 to attack rolls with this weapon due to recoil.

The wielders can opt to fire this weapon in a 40 foot narrow cone dealing 1d10 damage to all targets within it reflex half.

>>54753052
Kuthites are Necromangers.

Oh my god, we Riddick now.

>>54753425
Why does it have improved bullrush?

>>54753624
So it can bullrush without provoking an AoO

>>54753361
It makes me immensely happy they reference Phantasy Star.

Thank you, very much LeakAnon, for putting all of this up for us.

>>54753603
>Starfinder is a bit of a kitchen sink setting
>Triaxus is basically Shadowrun

fuck I'm actually sorta hype, I can forgive Lashunta if I can play a Ryphorian fighter pilot and his dragonkin copilot helping a bunch of street samurai hanging out in Zo and Kamora and doing CRIME

>>54753640
Why does it need to bullrush without provoking AoO when it can at will teleport?

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>>54753361

>No Star Control I or II
Time to arm the Glory Device.

>>54753052
>>54753455
>Kuthon's Shadow Drives are known to be exceptionally fast

Oh my god, I just thought of an in-setting saying.
>Quick as a Kuthite

>>54753668
Now you're asking the right question. We'll have to post this to the Paizo Messageboard and see what's up and if we can expect a Starfinder conversion of these guys or any official appearances in APs.

>>54753653
I can really see why the developers emphasized how we could have entire campaigns without ever touching the Starship rules, each planet is a campaign and tone unto itself.

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Now, here's the real question: stat me, /pgg/

>>54753753
Anyone else suddenly want to play a sneaky campaign arc where you're on the Death Star trying to gather info? Soldier could even have a place given a fake ID.

>>54753653
>>54753713
Isn't this kind of what we usually bitch about Golarion for, except instead of planets it's just nations? Did they do a better job of it this time, or is it just that the idea of these settings not spilling into each other and mixing into one is more acceptable when it's planets separated by vast distnace?

>>54753090
>>54753582

Make it so that the full reload is 9 rounds, and you're good

>>54753753
Major Plot Device (CL20)
The Deathstar has a fandom and universe wide aura of Illusion that makes it seem like a threat (DC 40 to disbelieve) while not being in any way or form an actual threat. Using ten full-round actions while observing the Deathstar makes the character realize that the Deathstar is a stupid name, reducing the DC to 10. If the character then spends another ten full-round actions observing the Deathstar the DC is reduce to 3 as the character realizes how fucking awful the Deathstar's design is.

>>54753397
Bless you leakanon, I'm going to name an NPC in a future Starfinder game lea'kanon in your honor.

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>>54753768
OH! OH, I see how it is.
Just because I'm a soldier it means I can't be sneaky or coniving.

>>54753827
Not unable, just unlikely

>>54753397
Leakanon, leakanon!

Can you compile all of this into one, easy-to-view PDF?

>>54753827
But John Wick is an Operative.

>>54753397
Thanks for everything!

>>54753906
This please!

>>54753367
Bullshit. LG and LE CAN both contribute to law with differring ethics, but most of the type LG is more about G while working with a set code of conduct (that the character follows more or less strictly); and LE about selfish or evil intents while sticking to a honor code or with self-guidelines.

>>54753361
>Not putting Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu
Shit taste. Well, it would also go against the company politics, however.

>>54752820
Tell me more.

What's your first Starfinder character gonna be?

>>54754118
android soldier

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>>54754118
"Android" Operative

Where did Cayden Caillean go? What of Gorum? Erastil, Nethys? Gorzeh, Irori, and Norgorbor? Rovagug is obviously the Devourer, but...

What happened to all the old gods? Where did they go? What are they doing? Surely they are remembered, at least?

>>54754014
You know, the stupid thing about alignment is that the Good-Evil axis is and always has been more important than the Law-Chaos axis because the former is actually about your moral views but the latter is only about the methods you're willing to take to reach your moral ideal.

>>54754161
I was wondering about Nethys myself, more than any other old god he seems like one who would have a place in space since he's all-seeing.

>>54753798
Yeah, science fiction has always been much more forgiving about kitchen sinks than fantasy.

>>54754161
>>54754182
The other gods are present, they're just inconsequential compared to the other faiths. Shelyn is still totally a deity, for example, but she's currently in the Vast seeking a cure for her brother.

Also, isn't Nethys folded into the new God of Magic?

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>>54754161
>CC
Probably still in Elysium, seeing as he was a random drunk that somehow became a god. Either that or he's taken on the guise of pic related
>Erastil
Do you really think an old codger like him would want to go to space? Talavet fills his story role anyway.
>Norgorber
Right behind you
>Rovagug
>being the Devourer
Rovagug is/was a loose qlippoth, while the Devourer is a fuckoff huge black hole. Draw your own conclusions.
>everyone else
Yeah, I've got nothing.

>>54754234
>>54754182
Nethys is one of Nyarlathotep's many masks. I mean, come on. It makes sense, doesn't it?

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>>54753918
Why is John Wick an operative?

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>>54754161
>Gorum
What if Asmodeus took his old buddy Gorum drinking, then used the Gap to 'talk' him into going full LE without the other gods noticing, changing his name to conceal his identity as part of the deal?
And now he no longer has to deal with paranoid Thrune's pestering, the Azlanti Star Empire is expanding, and the Hellknights are all spread across the galaxy, enforcing the LAW.
Just as planned.

>>54754316
Asmodeus already has a War Duke, his name is Moloch!

What do you guys think of the rules? Disappointed? Excited? I'm pretty mixed so far to be honest...

>>54754182
>You know, the stupid thing about alignment is that the Good-Evil axis is and always has been more important than the Law-Chaos axis because the former is actually about your moral views but the latter is only about the methods you're willing to take to reach your moral ideal.

That's because Law was originally supposed to mean "belief in society over the individual" while Chaos was "belief in the individual over society". That's why a Lawful Good character and a Lawful Evil one could find common ground, they both prefer an orderly society even if they differ on the details, and Lawful characters constantly clash with Chaotic ones of all stripes because they seek to undermine society and its institutions whether they are Good or Evil.

With the introduction of the idea that Law equates to following a personal code it's become meaningless because no two people would bond just over the idea that they both follow codes that are completely different, just as you would never have a conflict between people who follow a code vs people who don't.

>>54753992
>>54753906
He's already done so much. Not to mention he said there would be a full PDF release closer to the public launch.

>>54754316
The Azlanti Star Empire worships the wrong kind of law! Lissala is butting into Asmodeus's shtick!

>>54753906
Not Leakanon, but I pulled everything into one PDF. Not to step on Envoy-Chan's toes or anything.

https://mega.nz/#!UGgxHQgA!ejdZKrZe56bkFriGJnFhastUC5u7f5E7Z_CCH1AnTmo

Gimme a lewd /pgg/ Starfinder campaign! I need it!

>>54754395
>With the introduction of the idea that Law equates to following a personal code

That was dumb for other reasons too, I still hate that you can't have a lawful barbarian who adheres unflinchingly to a warrior's code of honor or a chaotic monk who follows his own laws, not the laws of some external source like a monastery, sensei, or government.

>>54754463
Who is Envoy-Chan?

>>54754533
I'd ask for one too, but I'm shit at typefucking.

>>54754539
I dunno, some person with a name who was making PDFs of the images?

>>54754533
I want one where I can play as a secret cowboy

>>54754412
>Lissala is butting into Asmodeus' shtick
>Lissala's butting onto Asmodeus' shtick
>Lissala's butt on Asmodeus' stick
>Lissala's butt is on Asmodeus' stick

I got your coded message, Anon!

>>54754533
I desperately need one not to happen because all these ideas of live streaming vidcam whores are too much my magical realm.

>>54754409
Well no, what I meant was that the cleaners three doors down release on the day of or slightly after the full release.

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>>54754533

I think you've had enough, anon-going to have to cut you off.

>>54754584
What if two party members independently go onto an online VR hookup site and go at it, their faces obscured for legal reasons?

>>54754559
>>54754559

Only way to get better is to practice, anon!

>>54754348
And that's why Asmodeus didn't make Damorritosh into a devil.
Also, an archdevil has been replaced before.

>>54754412
>Implying it isn't a test for Lissala so she proves herself worthy of joining Asmodeus's private harem.

>>54754711
Why should Lissala want to become Asmodeus's booty call? She's a big shot major goddess now! Asmodeus is beneath her.

Oh, oh my. This explains where Lissala went in Pathfinder, as she's noted to still be active yet all her worshippers are gone. She wasn't dead, she was just far away.

>>54754696
I know, I'm just overly self conscious. I usually try to drink a bit before I ERP to try and mitigate it.

>>54754759
See >>54753052
Lissala is in the other gods section as well. And Asmodeus knows he's in his most capability of action when he acts in the background, unnoticed by anyone until it's far too late. And from what >>54752760 implies, Hell (aka Asmodeus) has a full-blown empire in the Material Plane as well.

>>54754582
You and me both, pardner

>>54754463
Thanks mate!

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>tfw struggled to explain what I was looking for during my app process
>tfw six months later realize the literal exact example of what I was looking for
It was Boromir. I was looking for a party of Boromir's.

No, I don't know why I didn't think of that at the time.

>>54754983
So you wanted a mighty champion of a nation whose personal interests will clash with the multilateral efforts of the campaign?

Tell us about the campaign!

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>>54755012
No, I wanted good men who am I kidding, women on a righteous quest who are still able to succumb to betraying the quest for their own desires, their own things they view as good and righteous and what they need, their reasons for living.

I want to upload a Slut Virus into an android!

>>54755039

I already pointed him here, but you think you fella's could answer his question?

>>54753361
>No Outlaw Star, but Bebop and Trigun

Huh. You'd think the most overtly mystical of the 00s Toonami/Adult Swim sci-fi anime trifecta would get a shout out.

>>54752916
>space JJ
>still can't draw dimes

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>>54751379
One player is playing a Synthesist summoner in our pathfinder game. The Eidolon table specifies that he has a maximum of three attacks at level one. If he has the claws evolution and the slam evolution, can he make three attacks at level one? One for each claw and one for slam?

For context, our group is made up all of new players, and we're in a pre session trying to figure things out.

>>54755091
I honestly cannot recall any actual mysticism in Bebop or Trigun.

>>54755081
Good luck.

>>54755055
That sounds like a recipe for a campaign that's going to fall apart, so don't feel too sad.

>>54755111
Yes. Do you know what I'm talking about is I say "primary and secondary natural attacks"?

What's better? A Vesk soldier with a massive gun or a Vesk soldier with a massive sword?

>>54755111
yes, synthesist summoner is extremely overpowered, that player will have twice the HP pool of anyone else and be able to make 3 attacks at level 1, i would suggest not allowing him to do that unless you want the rest of your party to feel like they contribute nothing to combat

>>54755111
Know that the Synthesist is just a worse Summoner. He has to occupy his actions with it instead of casting and the eidolon wouldn't be much worse off.

Regarding the attacks, it's probably right but make sure you understand the rules behind primary and secondary natural attacks.

>>54755170
Porque no los dos?

>>54755111
Anyone with a companion (which this is) is also hitting for about 3 attacks a round. It's not a big deal.

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>>54755172
>synthesist summoner is extremely overpowered

>>54755163
>That sounds like a recipe for a campaign that's going to fall apart, so don't feel too sad.

The only falling apart will be by design, I think, the slow degeneration and descent by the heroes into the darkness of despair and destruction, the depraved dream of a dying dominion.

>>54755111
It scales really badly. It's not a huge deal.

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>>54755129
It was subtle but there were some fortune-tellers and the like who seemed legit.

>>54755215
>filename
He's not laughing to me...

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>>54755163
Well, I read the entry on d20pfsrd about them. The entry on Eidolons says slam and claw attacks are all primary, but I wonder, do they become secondary if used in succession? E.g. the first attack is primary and the ones after are secondary.

>>54755187
Okay, good... I'm nervous about allowing the other players to get away with anything too powerful.

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>>54755172
>>54755174
>give the newfag conflicting advice

It's true, we aren't a monolith after all!

>>54755215
I guess you can't have a space western without references to stereotypical Native mysticism.

>>54755220
If they're all primary and he has enough limbs, he can use them all as primary attacks. IE, they're all full BAB.

IE: If he has four arms, two claws and one slam, he can make them all at full attack bonus. If he's got a quadrupedal eidolon he might be better off with a bite.

>>54755172
>synthesist summoner is extremely overpowered
We did it you guys we reached Society level of players here

>>54754983
If it's any consolation, I probably would've made a different app, and you said you liked mine, so it's for the best you didn't!

>>54755220
>but I wonder, do they become secondary if used in succession?

Nope! That's half the point of the primary/secondary division, that primary attacks get to be made at full BAB when full attacking and secondary attacks don't. The other difference is that you get to add your full STR mod to damage with primary attacks, but only half of it (rounded down, you almost always round down in Pathfinder) for secondary attacks.

>>54755220
Primary natural attacks aren't always primary, it just means they can be used that way. If you have multiple kinds of attacks, like bites and claws, which would both be primary on their own, you have to choose which is primary. Similarly if you include manufactured weapons, all those natural attacks become secondary.

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Should I bar this archetype from my game? I don't like restricting options, but I also want to avoid at all costs the rest of the party feeling useless.

As a middle ground, are there certain builds that I can restrict? Like, "Hey, you can play sythesist, but no using ____"

>>54755233
I don't know what's going on T_T

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>>54755279
>If you have multiple kinds of attacks, like bites and claws, which would both be primary on their own, you have to choose which is primary.
But that's wrong, primary attacks only become secondary if you're attacking with a manufactured weapon.

>>54755286
If you're going to ban Synthesist, you might as well just ban Summoner entirely. A base summoner is WAY more powerful than a Synth.

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>>54752447
I feel like they forgot about something. What ever happened to the underground icy caverns full of electric moths andoxygen, and that one cavern with the portal that keeps spitting out confused humanoids who eventually started to populate and settle Aballon's deep underground

So, those of you who have read it already: what's your overall impression of Starfinder?

>>54755286
Nothing you do as a Synthesist is more powerful or dangerous than a vanilla Summoner doing completely ordinary Summoner things. It's a sacrifice archetype to gain a certain style you might have in mind for your character.

It's going to be an overpowered class to almost the degree of Sorcerers, not quite Wizard/Cleric/Druid level. The 'problem' is that the way it is overpowered is more directly comparable to melee classes. Whom Paizo LOVE to buttfuck in every possible way.

>>54755081
Virus bars exist, anon! You go there and willingly get injected with code that replicates all sorts of drugs or desires!

>>54755365
I'll be honest, I like it! I think it's a really good system, and I love all its rules. Everyone feels much tougher, and each class feels balanced out aside from maybe Envoy, but that just needs mild improvement.

>>54755365
A system and setting I'm actually excited to play in based on its own merits, rather than simply knowing someone will come along and make a "fixed" campaign.

>>54755365
Core rules look great, but Paizo has forgotten to hire math staff again and you can tell that the attachment to Pathfinder and 3.5 is hurting it.

>>54755365
I hate everything I've read about it.

>>54755499
You know, acting negative about something doesn't automatically make you smarter.

Tell me what you hate about it and why you hate it in detail.

>>54755554
no

>>54755398
I agree, with the SLN needing a bit of a helping hand too.
The AC bonus for Sol Armor only works for light armor, so why is it so staggered?
And the Sol Weapon is to weak for to long, why not pick up a high tech long sword for 5 lvs? it'd be better if you still want to keep a hand free, and if you don't care about keeping a hand free just pick up a space greatsword.

Also the dead level 5 and 15 is baffling.

>>54755589
I feel like the solar armour is a little bit underrated- who's going to say no to a flat bonus to AC? Then it stacks on top of your light armour, too, then you can improve your light armour further.. etc. I haven't really read much into Solarion as it doesn't interest me as a class, so I didn't realise that these were issues.

>>54754133
Wildstar was a great game

>>54755619
Light armor total protection (assuming you keep Dex capped) looks about the same as Heavy before including the bonus. Can't Mega right now, but in a few hours I'll look deeper into things. Possibly go for a Light Armor melee build using mobility tricks and Graviton powers to manipulate the battlefield?

>>54755619
Well, the flat AC feels like it's to little when "creatures in starfinder are going to be more accurate the pathfinder" is a line they say in the monster conversion section.

Really, the nicest part of the armor isn't the ac but the energy resistance, which looks pretty nice but at the same time, later game Sol weapons are pretty beefy that the resistance isn't very impressive by comparison.

My guess is the Sol is going to be the new core monk but better, pretty strong mid to late game, but a chore for no real reason at early.

>>54755665
I believe it's slightly less protection than Heavy armour, but you keep your movement speed and you don't get as much of an ACP.

>YFW a sharpshooter will never strip you down bend you over and use your ass to steady her aim as she assassinates an interstellar diplomat.
I need to get a starfinder game together.

How many sapient races is too many /pgg/?

>>54755683

Two.

>>54755677
That's dumb, you're dumb! I want a Starfinder campaign where I can play a busty, blonde brawling belle that kicks ass and teases her fans with bikini pictures!

>>54755683
For a Fantasy setting? Never have more than four humanoids. Half-breeds, sub-races and mutations are allowed.

>>54755395
I want something more permanent, anon! I want to inject a deadly android assassin with a slut virus and watch her transform into a wanton whore within seconds! Then I'll sell her on the open market after I've had my fun!

>>54755554
>You know, acting negative about something doesn't automatically make you smarter.
I never said it did.
I dislike
>seperating Arcane, Divine, and Psychic Magic. I really enjoy it when magic types feel distrinct from one another, and while this wasn't super well done in PF I appreciated the effort. Starfinder's magic simply feels "united" when convenient. Mystics feel like !Clerics in both fluff and function despite they're supposed ability to cover a range of concepts. Same goes for Technomancer.
>Iterative attacks are still in. They're just class features instead of one unified thing
>I dislike the science fantasy thing. I can handle splashes of Sci-Fi in fantasy settings, but Starfinder's way of handling feels way to awkward. Less chocolate with delicious peanut butter in the center and more a sticky wad of peanut butter with chocolate in the middle.
>>54755575
Fuck off you aren't me.

>>54755683
I did 4

Humans, Elves, Trolls, Angels/Demons

And honestly, it's a little tight for a good fantasy feel.

>>54755696
>YFW when you'll never be stripped down be a brawling belle and your ass used as a punching bag?

Are you satisfied?

>>54755738
Never, I'm never satisfied! Not until someone makes a Starfinder campaign!

>>54755715
More permanent? That's horrible! You should keep the slut virus available for us during long voyages in the Drift, when the Assassin's nimble fingers are put to other uses when they aren't handling a blade!

>>54755748
Such is the life of /pfg/ for now, once the rules are released officially. Hell most likely before considering the leaks, they'll be atleast twenty /pfg/ games. All of which will have endless meme applications and shitposting as far as the eye can see.

>>54755735
You know what you could do? Add something from a faraway continent that's a little strange and exotic. Just broaden slightly enough to add something, but ultimately just use it as a hint at a wider world of nightmare beyond that known to the characters in the story.

>>54751515
>Common crew quarters also include a communal bathroom (which includes a military-style shower)

Fantastic!

>>54755748
I'm putting one together set in the Firefly universe (altered to accommodate various options), should be going up on the 17th on Myth Weavers. I can't do voice for Reasons and my schedule is erratic, so PbP for me.

>>54755727
>Same goes for Technomancer. And the magical options for Soldier being ELDRICT KNIGHT. ARCANE X, ETC, ETC. It feels like the merging of power sources was done more for the sake of being able to get lazy with world building and patch up plot holes for lazy writers.
>Power Armor looks underwhelming as fuck. No reason for High STR characters to use it. It's pretty much pay for 3.5 style wild shape.
>Prostectics and vehicles do look kinda cool, may snipe those for PF games.
There something positive, guess I don't hate everything now that I think about it.
>the entire setting being Golarion/PF multiverse in the far future doesn't really feel all that compelling. I feel like they were better off just making a whole new IP honestly.
>Halfings and Gnomes haven't all been genocided during the gap.
>The core races don't really do it for me. Oh boy, lizard people, genki bug people, mary sue bug asari, and 2 shitty PF races+humans.

>>54755776
It is horrible, anon! I'm horrible! I'm wanted in multiple systems! I'm constantly reprogramming androids that attempt to kill me into debauched, high-priced hookers! All of that skill with shooting and stabbing gets completely deleted and replaced with talent in the carnal arts!

NOW FORM A PARTY OF FOUR AND TRY TO COLLECT MY BOUNTY

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>>54755812

What sort of races would you have preferred?

>>54755781
While I may or may not have plans similar to that, it's a little hard to squeeze in.

Though I did recently decide that for internal consistency, the trade nation is actually also the land of slightly asian cuties.

Also, I'm cheating the race count a bit by adding Homunculi

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>>54755839
>You will never catch Mister Lister the Android Fister before he turns your stoic Technomancer into a lascivious strumpet

>>54755841
Honestly? Keep the traditional suite of fantasy races and focus on how they adapted to life in space and the societies/niches they've carved out.

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Gather ‘round /pfg/ it’s time for a tale from the Flower Court, and the six saps duped into endowing it with a soul. I bring a tale of heroism, international diplomacy, and a bunch of random jackasses blundering into situations far above their paygrade! Virtues have mercy.

Cast:

Ichabod, CN Rogue – A devious master of trickery and deception, the greatest thief in all Lote—is what the whispers in the corners of the court say. A goofy kid, looking for a good time, and some people to share it with. Maybe. Probably. He hopes.

Sibyl Lichter, NG Vitalist – A taciturn aasimar from a remote corner of the kingdom, she seeks to mend both body and soul. Deeply empathetic, she’s abhors violence in all its forms. Bit of an enigma at, since she seems to be biding her time, in preparation for something…

Rae, N Alchemist – The (not so) good doctor. A researcher summoned to provide the party with a scholarly and gleefully amoral perspective. The group’s resident spaghettimancer, though she seems to be warming up a little. She’s also totally in love with, and may be lightly stalking, the Royal Scribe.

Derrin Kline, LG Paladin/Skald - A stupid kid from the former Bazarian empire, drawn to Lote in search of a purpose. Brash, compassionate, and almost suicidally reckless in the face of danger, Derrin serves as a continual reminder of their purpose and duty. Also, a big gay dork who’s doing her best to remain focused while surrounded by cute girls.

Sir Mathéo Le Guen, LG Warlord – A Knight sworn to the service of the Nymph who rescued him, journeyed to Lote, the last sanctuary for their virtues.Tthe only real adult in the party;constantly surprised by the outlandish behaviors of his comrades.

Illaria, CN Bard – A hedonistic cult leader, bringing her flock to Lote in search of a better life. Joined up with because she wants to better everyone else’s lives, at least that’s what her followers say. Illaria has remained tight lipped on the subject.

>>54755985
Session 3 – In Which Our Heroes Make Friends and Influence Foxes

>The party emerges from the grotto nearly eight hours later, exhausted, but content. Each of them bearing a token of the Nereid’s affections.
>After resting for the night, the group starts off before dawn, the rain subsides to a mere sprinkling.
>Near midday the party hears the sound of hooves approaching along the road
>Matheo and their guide pull off into a copse of trees to hide, while the rest of the party hunkers down closer to the road.
>The procession, and it truly is a procession, is decked in full royal regalia, as befits the entourage of the crown prince of Kanese.
>Illaria, Rae, and Sibly are instantly spotted, prompting Derrin to break cover to aid in negotiations.
>Things proceed, surprisingly, without violence despite the party looking suspicious as fuck.
>The prince is chasing a shapeshifting spy.
>Hmmmmm… makes one wonder about that not at all suspicious looking fox standing in the tall grass watching the proceedings.
>It’s clear prince Viscer doesn’t buy their story about being on a simple humanitarian mission, but he also doesn’t think they’re bandits or spies, and is about to grant them passage.
>A situation being resolved with grace and tact?! This looks like a job for ICHABOD!
>For reasons unknown even to the virtues themselves, Ichabod rises from the bush he was still concealed in, and begins insulting their fox hunting technique.
>Editor’s Note: It seems he thought it was safe to come out. Why he thought the insults were appropriate shall forever be a mystery.
>Silver tongues manage to deescalate the situation, but the party is now “kill on sight” in Kanese; as the prince and his retinue disappear around a bend.
>Sibyl breaks down sobbing, after not only lying to royalty, but nearly being killed for it.
>Rae attempts to comfort her, but only succeeds in giving her a slightly molest-y backrub.

>>54755874
Shitposting aside, it sounds like a lewd "one" shot I would run. The question is, is rescuing the android ally the goal, or do you force the party to all play as androids?

>>54756010
>Derrin punches Ichabod in the face.
>Illaria spots the fox, and points it out.
>Matheo breaks cover atop Peredur and dives off the horse to tackle the poor creature.
>He falls short, and lands at the feet of a woman dressed in hastily donned armor, atop courtly garb.
>The fox introduces herself as Dame Sarse, a spy for Lote.
>To give them deniability, Sarse tells them little of her mission, but offers them a few of the papers she’s carrying, with the instructions to turn them and a fox pelt in to a Kanase military outpost whenever they get a chance.
>Can’t have the Ensoulment party be seen in the last known location of a spy, lest they be accused of espionage
>Given their grasp of intrigue, the party takes her advice, and they part ways.
>It takes two full days to reach their destination, crossing the last ridge just after sundown.
>The city lies in the basin, pressed up to the opposite wall of the valley. Blankets, tarps, and sheets have been spread between buildings, blocking the all visibility.
>In the distance a bonfire burns, and shapes move around it.
>Kobolds. Mostly red and black, but one a lustrous silver clearly lording over the rest.
>A gout of flame erupts, consuming a watchtower, and the hapless dwarves dangling beneath it.
>One shape in particular catches their eyes.
>A massive, red shape, all wings and scales and jagged claws.

>>54756012
>The question is, is rescuing the android ally the goal, or do you force the party to all play as androids?

Well well, now ain't that the million credit question? That's really up to the ultimate party composition and the interests of the DM!

>>54756020
Session 4 – In Which our Heroes Learn What Silver Means

>The Red Dragon and their Kobold minions are occupied, which gives the party a chance to ride for the citadel.
>The dragon swoops low, but they make it to the gates.
>As expected, they’ve been trapped, but the shoddy kobold workmanship is no match for Ichabod.
>Inside it’s dark, and quiet. Too qui—OH FUCK KOBOLDS.
>Nearly a dozen kobolds swarm from the walls, with archers in the upper windows.
>Despite taking heavy fire, the party cuts, stabs, smacks, and bombs their way through the assembled hordes, and into an abandoned tavern just across the street from the gate.
>Inside, they find a dwarven prisoner and more kobolds.
>After her rescue, the Dwarf tells them the remaining dwarves are holed up in the mine, two blocks north-east of the bar.
>The kobolds seemed to have ceased their assault, except for a constant, rhythmic yipping
>The party takes a few minutes to breathe, before pushing out into the back alley and sprinting for the mine.
>Kobolds on rooftops fire volley after volley, as the slaves charge forward to block their path.
>Finally, they make it to within a few feet of the mine, when the omnipresent yipping comes to its climax.
> A silver kobold, wielding a long spear, emerges from the shadows. Nearly two dozen archers line the rooftops, bows at the ready.
> "I have come to expand my kingdom. I have slain the chief of these dwarves and now wage a war to claim the survivors. I have been giving blessing for this by Movriad the Immortal Red, who speaks for Emporer Fernodeus himself."
> "Your ruler holds no dominion over these people, and neither shall you. You and your kind will find nothing but death here. You will claim nothing but despair, and Death awaits for your foolishness!"
>"Your piety and obedience to whatever demon you profess to follow will not save you. For your dishonorable assault on this place and these people, you can never be forgiven! Have at thee!"
>Round 1 Fight!

>>54756043
>Illaria’s banner flies high! As the inspiring cadence of her pipes counters the Kobold chants.
>Matheo and Peredur charge Kyder the Silver. The kobold knocks aside Matheo’s lance with ease, but the noble steed strikes true, drawing first blood.
>The scion responds with a perfect strike, that punches through Matheo’s breastplate like tissue paper, wounding him sorely. His form blurs, as he begins to move in a deadly dance
>Ichabod joins the fray, fading from the world for a moment, to strike where his enemy least expects. The blow strikes true, dealing a critical wound to Kyder, and sending him fleeing for his life!
>Derrin rushes in, and takes the opportunity to swiftly strike, catching Kyder in the side with a dagger.
>Rae’s bomb goes wide, impacting on the wall with a gout of flame.
>The chant begins again, as the kobolds rain arrows down atop the party.
>Matheo strikes true! At least he would have, had Kyder been six inches to the left. Peredur nips the Kobold again.
>The rogue’s critical strike awakens some primal fear deep within the Kobold. He must flee, lest he be killed! Kyder strikes the rogue, and steps into shadows, fading from the world.
>Sibyl gives Ichabod a peck on the cheek, as the party heals, and gets the non-combatants into the mine, all the while, tiny arrows still rain down.
>There’s a sound of breaking glass and splintering wood as upper floor of a building explodes outwards in a flash of fire and silver!
>KYDER MAKES AN ENTRANCE!
>Round 2 Fight!
>Derrin swings, but her blade ricochet’s off his armor.
>He responds, by stabbing straight through the young Paladin, to reach Matheo! Before it was a performance, now it’s war. His wounds have closed! The support of his people gives Kyder the determination to continue fighting.
>Illaria maintains her performance, and wades into combat with her blade
>Ichabod throws sand in his face, but the lip of the helmet blocks most of it.

>>54756034
I'd just present the question to the party directly, I think.

>>54756058
>Despite her grievous wounds, Derrin takes the opening, and strikes at the Kobold’s unguarded back!
> There’s a thunk of steel on wood, as the kobold whirls to face her, taking a stab from Illaria in the process. Blocking both thrusts with his spear, before channeling the momentum into vaulting through the air.
>Rae strikes true with a bomb, throwing the Kobold into a wall, and knocking the wind out of him.
>Archers continue laying down covering fire, while more slaves flood the streets.
>Matheo bleeds profusely, it seems the strike nicked an artery! He cuts down two of the warriors blocking their retreat, while Peredur begins kicking, biting, and trampling down the coming onslaught.
>Desperate, and blinded by rage, he lashes out twice at Derrin. The first jab caught in her blades, but the second inflicting a nasty head wound.
>She falls under the onslaught, and Kyrder roars in triumph. Victory is assur—he feels a sharp pain at the base of his skull, and the world goes black, as Ichabod finishes the job.
>Illaria rushes to provide aid to Derrin, but she’s still unconscious.
>Overhead, the canopy as the air is filled with the beating of massive wings!
>Ichabod grabs the unconscious kobold, and sprints towards the mines.
>Sibyl kneels down, and kisses Derrin, deeply, awakening the Paladin.
>Arrows strike Sibyl’s unprotected back, and her vision fades, but she doesn’t fall.
>Matheo and Peredur face down the hordes, ensuring their comrade’s escape!
>Derrin picks herself up, and shields Sibyl with her body, while the aasimar staggers to safety.
>Another rooftop explodes in fire, as Rae tosses a parting shot.
>The rumbling grows closer, and the spiked back of the beast appears above the buildings.
>Matheo and Derrin flee into the mines.
>A blast of heat follows them down the tunnel.

>Final Kill Count: 18 kobold slaves, 14 kobold soldiers, 1 Kobold Scion. = 33
>Final Death Count: 0
>FLAWLESS VICTORY!

END OF SESSION

>>54756072
>>54756058
>>54756043
>>54756020
>>54756010
>>54755985
C3 would've formed an alliance with the dragon and massacred thousands of innocents and we all know it

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>>54754983
Pilgrimage?

>>54756087
Probably, yeah.

>>54756089
Not even close. People need to learn to count time better (including the Anon that posted that.)

>>54756020
Muh
Fuggin
Bolds

There should've been more kobold apps to Ensoulment, imo.

>>54756072
So Kyder the Silver was the 8th level initiator mentioned earlier in the week? Pretty badass 'bold. Actually kind of impressive the party managed that with as many other kobolds as you described, even if they were typical 1/4cr ones.

>>54756137
Fear the power of the sap.

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>>54756043
>except for a constant, rhythmic yipping

YIP! YIP! YIP!

So, it kind of feels like the Envoy is a Bard, does that seem about right?

>>54756195
Not really. Bards are phenomenally useful.

>>54756137
That's pretty much all on Sibyl. Had to cut the descriptions for space, but we were taking 3-4 arrows a turn, without Sibyl mitigating it, we likely would have died.

In addition to everyone would have died from RAW damage.

>>54756195

Kind of, yeah-it's intended to be a "face"-style skillmonkey with abilities keyed to improving the party's performance.

>>54756195
They're a spell-less Bard/Investigator Hybrid, with a gimped skill list, and shittier buffs.

>>54756212
Sibyl was a vital component of that victory, no question.

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>>54756230
Agreed. Sibyl pulled through for sure.

>>54756195
It's like if you took a Bard, gave it a super shitty version if Investigator's inspiration and a worse skill list, gutted out the spell list and all things that made bard useful, and tried to sell it as a face class

>>54754603
Leakanon please make a SF character that we might honor you as a NPC in our campaigns.

>the DM reveals that the PCs are not, in fact, who they thought they were, but clones of the originals with implanted false memories
>this has been foreshadowed a few times in advance, not just dumped completely out of nowhere on the players

How would you react?

>>54756386
I'd be a little disappointed to essentially lose a story, but gaining a story could be kinda fun, I suppose. I'd definitely have to see about finding the original, though, since my character is obsessed with the same goals, which I guess would transmute into an intense, altruistic desire to save this person who is kinda sorta them.

Why haven't you begun harvesting parts from your fallen enemies for those free crafting materials or trophies for morale bonuses? Do you enjoy throwing loot away?

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Roleplaying tips for a disgraced nobleman who still thinks he's better than everyone?