Warhammer 40,000 General - /40kg/

First for the First

>>54730621
First for Black Templars!

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Alpha Legion

What's more fun:

Alpha "everything is turn 1 charging" legion
or
Night "Absolute Terror" lords?

>want to get into 40k
>hate Space Marines and that faggy """""Emperor"""""
guess i am fucked

I'm back! Thanks for keeping the link in the OP!

I'm currently going about catching up on recommended fixes/tweaks/additions, and then I intend to get back to work. I see we have a pdf for C:SM now, with GK and CSM likely coming soon. I've been debating how to handle codexes, and I'm currently leaning towards starting a new doc for them, so as to not erase the old Index calculations or to over-crowd the current doc. Opinions on this? And also, would people rather that I do the Tyranids Index rules first, or dive straight into C:SM?

4th for chaos victory as dg

>>54730654
Yes, Space Marines are the only army you can collect.

nth for why the fuck can't baneblades move and fire without penalty like leman russes

>>54730654
About half of all factions are not Imperium. Just pick something else. If you REALLY hate SM and the Emperor, pick Chaos.

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Quad Grav Flux Bombard.

Is there anything Marinelets have that Primaris can't do the same or better?

>>54730654
Looks like it's Chaos or Xenos for you.

>>54730668
>shooting penalties when moving
>can shoot shit behind it with all weapons

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>>54730621
Why haven't you gentlemen purchased Primaris Space Marines at your local GW yet?

>>54730658
You do you bro, i think its awesome

>>54730653
Night Lords are scary enough to make plasma spontaneously explode with a command point so I'm just imagining they glare hatefully at whoever is about to shoot at them which makes their hands shaky.

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>>54730654
Good thing there are plenty of non Space Marine or non-Imperium-Fag-Emperor-Worshiping factions to play!

What DO you like, anon?

>>54730682

Pure primaris armies are pretty fuckin' weak bro.

>>54730681
Problem is that it says Helbrute, not HELBRUTE.

>>54730637
There's no way to play Alpha Legion on the tabletop according to their lore. If Alpha Legion are going head to head it's because they either fucked up or it's such a weak enemy that they didn't need to bother with sneaky shenanigans (so never in matched play).

So every single game you play is "Welp my warlord fucked up again time to clean up his mess with a pile of our own soldier's bodies"

>>54730682
Decent anti tank options, though that will come in time.

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>>54730654
Play Chaos and bring death to the False Emperor and his slaves.

>>54730682
Actual armor saturation, anything close combat, and moving faster than a land raider.

>>54730681
Doesn't work that way, it isn't referring to the [b]Helbrute[/b] keyword but the actual Helbrute unit.

>>54730697

Well a stratagem that makes Helbrutes, a super melee focused unit, shoot twice if it stands still is pretty fuckin' worthless.

>>54730673
>>54730684
>>54730691
>Chaos
Space Marines with horns, you know you can't say otherwise.
That leaves 1/4 of franchise that is not spacemarined

>>54730723
>1/4
Can't into maths

>>54730697
If we're being pedantic, it is in all capital letters already.

>>54730702
You're looking at it wrong.

When you're battling on the tabletop as Alpha Legion, its part of a great plan. You're probably there as a distraction, drawing troops away from some other area to allow a greater action to take place.

You've already won, no matter the results on the field.

>>54730723
Daemons are a thing, Anon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjYP3a5DCI0

Vehicles in melee I MEAN REALLY!

>>54730721
>>54730697

Oh good, the carnifex units argument is back.

anyone got that alpha legion glaze image?

Got an 800 3-way today against either Fex heavy nids, Death Guard, or Primaris. Not sure which till i get there. Feedback?
++ Battalion (CP +3) (Astra Militarum) [800 Pts] ++

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [63 Pts]: Autocannon, Boltgun, Chainsword, Plasma Gun

Infantry Squad [62 Pts]: Autocannon, Chainsword, Laspistol, Plasma Gun

Tempestus Scions [75 Pts]: Hot-Shot Laspistol, 2x Hot-Shot Volley Gun, Power Maul, 5x Scions
. Hot-Shot Lasgun
. Hotshot Laspistol and Vox: Hot-Shot Laspistol, Vox-Caster

Tempestus Scions [81 Pts]: Hot-Shot Laspistol, 2x Meltagun, Power Maul, 5x Scions
. Hot-Shot Lasgun
. Hotshot Laspistol and Vox: Hot-Shot Laspistol, Vox-Caster

+ Elites +

Tempestus Command Squad [67 Pts]
. Hotshot Laspistol and Medi-pack: Hot-Shot Laspistol, Medi-Pack
. Hotshot Laspistol and Vox: Hot-Shot Laspistol, Vox-Caster
. 2x Plasma Gun

+ HQ +

Company Commander [35 Pts]: Power Axe, Shotgun

Tank Commander [206 Pts]: Battle Cannon, Heavy Flamer

Tempestor Prime [40 Pts]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [171 Pts]: Battle Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Leman Russ BT

+ 'Faction +

Regiment Selection: Cadian

++ Total: [800 Pts] ++

>>54730723
You got daemons. Just use them if you want Chaos. Otherwise go Xenos.

so lord of change anygood

Is this a decent idea?


>BRIGADE DETACHMENT
>HQ [150]

Tempestor Prime: rod
Primaris Psyker
Lord Castellan Kreed

>TROOPS [368]

2x Militarum Tempestus Scions: 2x plasma gun

4x Infantry Squad: Lascannon

>ELITES [240]

Salamander Command Vehicle: heavy bolter, heavy flamer
2x Eversor Assassin

>FAST ATTACK [234]

3x Salamander Scout Tank: Autocannon, Heavy bolter

>HEAVY SUPPORT [81]

3x Heavy Weapons Squad: 3 Mortar

DEDICATED TRANSPORT [98]

Trojan Support Vehicle: Heavy Bolter

FLIERS [360]
Vulture Gunship: Twin Punisher Gatling Cannon, Heavy Bolter
Vulture Gunship: 2x Hellstrike Missile, Heavy Bolter, Twin Lascannon

SUPER-HEAVY AUXILIARRY DETACHMENT [466]

Dominus armored siege bombard: 2x Heavy Bolter

1997pts

The dominus, buffed by the Command and Support tank duo spits out an ungodly amount of no-los-required s10 fire while the infantry squads bubblewrap it and the psyker shields it. Eversors and scions disrupt the enemy at his side own side while he gets shelled and blasted. The gatling-vulture can be buffed by the support tanks for 40 2+ rerollable shots at a standstill. The other vulture is on AT duty.

>>54730686
But anon I have To convert to Chosen, Berserkers and Noise Marines

>>54730682
Melee stuff, vanguard vets and assault termis and so on. Reivers aren't amazing in close combat and aggressors are a bugger to deliver if you're not playing raven guard.

>>54730723

So still literally every xeno faction still in the running.

But you clearly don't actually like 40k so why are you here?

>>54730754
Just pick Magnus you pussy

>>54730681
sadly, not a hellbrute because fw can't into rule writing.

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>>54730723
Ah yes. The "space marines with horns".

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>>54730654
In all seriousness theres tau orks eldar tyranids and daemon chaos

>>54730740
>Very fast dreadnought purging heretics at incredible hihg speed.jpeg

>>54730723
What about rank and file human soldiers?
Martian cyborgs and robots?
Battle nuns?

Space Elves? Dark Space Elves? Clown Space Elves? Pirate Space Elves?

Undead terminator bots w/ Egyptian influence?

Green soccer hooligan aliens?

Blue anime mecha snobs?

NOT! Ridley Scott's Aliens?
Alien-human hybrids?

>>54730770
>Tau
nobody likes Tau

>>54730689
Thanks! I'm just always trying to figure out what the most efficient use of my data-entry time is and what people would find most useful. C:SM seems pretty topical right now, but I'd feel bad leaving Tyranids without calculations.

>>54730721
No need to move faster than a land raider when you can drop in 9 inches away with reivers and inceptors.

Reivers are good close combat, maybe they don't have power weapons but 3 attacks per model + shooting from pistols is pretty good.

Heavy Plasma overcharged is Str 9.

>>54730723
>what are daemons
>what are xenos
Congrats on the (You), anyway

>>54730740
>May 18th

>>54730740
Fuck off Gamza you asw

>>54730658
Update the points values, but yes I think chapter tactics modifiers would be too much.

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>>54730746
This one? Apologies for the filesize, been meaning to sort that but never got round to it.

>>54730761
i already have magnus?

>>54730778
I like their design, but then again I used to build gunpla

Am I wrong in thinking that the Repulsor actually saves points overall because it's a transport and main battle tank and effective anti-air all in one model?

>>54730743
The Carnifex argument was right, as GW had to release an errata that rewrote completely that rule.

>>54730761

Who cares about Magnus? Greater daemons are way cooler than the dreary Primarch fluff.

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>>54730795
nice one fella

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>>54730795
This one looks better, formating wise

>>54730794
Yeah, especially with some stuff like the Psybolt Ammunition on GK, that could potentially double the number of cases I'd need to cover to be comprehensive. I might throw in the occasion CT calc for what I view to be a common use of it.

As far as point values go, I'm currently planning to do separate Index and Codex sheets, for people who may want to continue playing with their Index to evenly face non-Codex opponents.

>>54730743
It's literally HELBRUTE in bold though. Plus it's explicitly called a keyword. He's complaining because the H is larger.

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>>54730734
And that's why I love tzeentch themed armies. Everything, every death, every loss, even my warlord dying.

All according to keikaku

>>54730810
No thats corrects, its why Storm Ravens are much better than Predators and Razorbacks are better than Rhinos.

>>54730723
Daemons, Xenos, Guard, Admech especially if you want to be humans, look good and give no fucks about Emps, Renegades if you prefer Chaotic troops, whole bunch of options.

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>>54730835
>>54730795
Also heres a color wheel from white dwarf

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Does the new Chaos 'dex have Lieutenant equivalents to really exploit the shit out of this ability?

Because having a dozen different Warlords would be friggin' hilarious.

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>>54730817
>rewrote completely

>>54730843
>>54730732
The problem is that it's not in capital letters in the stratagem. Meaning that that stratagem only works on the unit called Helbrute, not on HELLBRUTE keyword units.

>>54730868
Yup. Exalted Champion.

>>54730723
you are truly a master baiter

>>54730868
I miss when you could do it to marine and cultist champions too.

>>54730740

He's right tho. And dreads have always been CC things.

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>Slaanesh is the god of lust and tits
>It's followers and daemons are the worst waifu candidates
Just

>>54730868
I have to admit I really like this. Very fluffy.

>>54730872
For the purpose of the argument, changing Carnifex into CARNIFEX changes everything.

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>>54730868
Nani?!

What's new in the "new" GK Strike Squad kit?

>>54730893
>Lust and tits
>His daemons only have one tit each
You've been lead astray somewhere, anon.

>>54730837
>As far as point values go, I'm currently planning to do separate Index and Codex sheets, for people who may want to continue playing with their Index to evenly face non-Codex opponents.

hmm, you think people are actually doing that? I viewed point value changes as sort of like additional faq entries instead of codex specific additions like the strategems and relics. Since they mostly fix unplayable units like Obliterators and Helldrakes.

>>54730740
This guy is so autistic, and I mean really autistic not just as some result that gets thrown around here alot

So can I deploy multiple units 9 inches away from my opponent with alpha legion?

>>54730911
>one tit
Mine have 2-6

>>54730908
A datasheet I think.
Maybe new assembly instructions.

>>54730717
Sorry, I totally overlooked the hellblasters, my bad.

But yeah those with a las pred would be amazing at taking out hard targets, while also being able to take on soft ones pretty well.

You could use the drop pod to drop in hellbladters strategically, or to drop in a close-quarters dread as a distraction, or to contest a point.

Finally, is there any difference between assault on black reach and normal minis? I cant tell an Ästhetik difference so they're probably the same, right?

when are the 55th Alphic Hydras going to turn on the ultrasmurfs?

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>>54730893
There's more to Slaany than tits and lust. No it's not just drugs and rock 'n roll. It's obsession. The obsession to become the greatest swordsman, to spend hours at perfecting your technique until you can get a high from it. However, the high from that or you know the drugs will stop being pleasurable and now you're addicted and will have to keep going further. Push your boundaries until you're so desensitized that you immolate yourself just to feel something.

>>54730935
I'm really not sure. I definitely see them acting as a balancing fix needed from the Index, but they also interact with potentially new rules on datasheets which may affect a given unit's value. If I already have the sheets, I'm biased towards preserving them and just copy-pasting to make the updated Codex versions.

>>54730965
So kits getting "sold out" are really just getting new paperwork?

>>54730853
>>54730734

This is why "NPC races" are actually the best factions. Not only are Admech awesome and cool, if I'm fighting Marines or CSM or something similarly "Elite badasses that cost a bazillion thrones and there's only a million and so on" I basically can't lose. I kill like two squads of Marines I've paid my army's fluff cost back a dozen times over, and I have another thousand of the exact same force on my Explorator Fleet and another ten million on the Forge World.

One game I fought Blood Angels and it wound up with a crippled Dread, two Devastators and a Stormraven flying away from a battle with a Battle Maniple/barebones Battle Congregation, that's a massive defeat in materiel terms even though they tabled me.

"Sir, we've wiped out a supply convoy at the cost of 4% of our entire chapter, and the Primarch Guilliman, who showed up for some reason like he does every mission has been killed or crippled"

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>>54730893
>implying female khorne cultists would have an hour glass figure and not the figure of a power lifter to better rip and tear.

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>>54730974

Who cares, it isn't going to be handled well.

>The 55th Alphic Hydras execute order 666 and begin their attack on the Ultramarines along with the aid of the Alpha Legion, Black Legion, and Death Guard. The Ultramarines take heavy losses but ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN counter-attacks and the Ultramarines are victorious.

Look forward to it...???

>>54730997
They're reboxing them. Updating the packaging at the same time.

>>54730974
But the 55th Alphic Hydras aren't traitors, that would be too obvious. Do you even Alpha Legion?

>>54731001
That only applies to marinelets though. Now that mass produced marines are better in every way, they're probably the most cost effective troops in the galaxy, fluff wise.

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>>54731002
Nah. This is Khorne's waifu.

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>>54731002
Anon, I ~

>>54730974
>implying an npc faction like scions will important in lore ever again

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I feel like B is the obvious choice.

But thought I'd get other opinions

>>54731033
>>54731035
BL fucking up the lore again.

What do peeps think of admech this edition, picked up Cawl at the end of 7th.

>>54731044
B looks better

>>54731058
Kinda average.

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>>54730971
>Sorry, I totally overlooked the hellblasters, my bad.
Don't sweat it buddy. Simple mistake.

Can Primaris units used Drop Pods? I thought they were exempt from SM transports.

The Black Reach minis are pretty much the same as others, they are just more static and you only get a flamer and missle launcher, opposed to the full suite of weapons in a usual tactical squad. Plus, they use old slotta bases, so they need to be scaled up.
Top is my unassembled generic dood and beneath is the squad when it's finished

>>54731033
>>54731035
all her art is way better than her model

that pose on the model is so weird and is so scrawny

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>>54730893
>worst waifu candidates
>he doesn't love the prettiest and most perfect waifu
it's a shame really

>>54731076
>Can Primaris units used Drop Pods? I thought they were exempt from SM transports.
Nope. The only transport options Primaris have are the Repulsor and the Thunderhawk.

>>54731076
>Can Primaris units used Drop Pods? I thought they were exempt from SM transports.
check the keyword restrictions

in the index they could not, probably true for the codex too

but do it anyway. GW is trying to push people to buy new primaris drop pods just like they did with the repulsor

>rhino primaris
>cannot carry primaris marines

>>54731044
B

>>54731128
The name predates the Primaris marines. It's just a command Rhino.

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>>54731083
>GW female faces

>>54731126
Dammit.

>>54731128
>rhino primaris
What a stupid naming convention that was. Command Rhino would have done fine.

>>54731030
They haven't actually said how many Primaris Marines there are yet, but given a bunch of chapters were destroyed and new ones created and the codex still says "One Thousand Chapters" or something similar it's a decent bet they're still around a million, although without that casualties previously taken.

Also because of the three extra organs and fancier armour it would make sense that Primaris are even MORE expensive to create, so I will take even greater glee in burning them down with glorious phosphor fire.

>>54731151
Drop pods are bad anyway.

>>54731162
That's an incredibly flawed statement.

>>54731109
That reminds me, Sigvald is called Geld Prince, does that imply what I think it implies?

>>54731151
Command Rhino is a FW model.

>>54731011
That much is true, I guess in that case I can just wait and see if they ever fuck it up so I can go over the internet and revel in the forthcoming raging shitposting. This is sad now and will be sad then

>>54731126
Oh and the Stormbird.

>>54731193
The command rhino predates the forgeworld model if I recall correctly.

>>54731149
Alarielle from AoS has a decent enough face. Shame about her topknot, though.

>>54731076
>Can Primaris units used Drop Pods? I thought they were exempt from SM transports

Nvm, close quarters dread it is. An Ironclad with a Dreadnought close combat weapon and a seismic hammer can be very scary. I once had one that got charged by a full health Demon Prince of Khorne and killed it that turn.

>>54731182
>Geld
Old germaric word for "gold". Current German for "money".

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>>54731208
Oh yeah, God of thicc

>>54731204
Oh. in that case, GW is silly and wasted an opportunity for a great model and a good name.

>>54731228
That is not what I thought they meant by that at all.
I can't be the only one who noticed the hidden meaning there? It's a normal common word.

>>54731162
Yeah what >>54731177 said. They're good for not only getting big things into CC quickly, they also are useful for bringing in reinforcements where necessary

>>54731243
they also made the rhino primaris and land raider excelsior exclusive to warhammer world because selling products to customers who aren't in the UK just makes too much sense.

>>54731261
>big things
None of the "big things" can take a pod anymore. Unless you mean the Lucius pattern.

>>54731182
>>54731228
Moon Nazis confirmed?

>>54730654
>Want to get into swimming
>Hate getting wet and that faggy """water"""

kys

>>54731261
>They're good for not only getting big things into CC quickly
like dreadnoughts!

oh wait..

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>>54730740
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAy9pG_weAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV0Acn2XdME

I honestly hopes Gamza gets hit by a truck. He once called Terminators in a Land Raider a Deathstar during 7th. He once said that he hasn't lost a game in years, and tabled a decurion with normal marines with no grav.

He's beyond retarded. On top of that he's poisoning the minds of the youth by giving them blatantly wrong information about how the game works.

>>54731261
What big things? Terminators teleport. Dreads can't go in there. Assault marines can jump down.

>>54731306
Dammit I'm just going to stop talking now.

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Sorry to ask this again, but right now I'm running 800 points of dark eldar (just bought my army). Should I swap the 3 reavers I'm running from the SC for 8 carbine scourges (or 7 and one lance/blaster)? Is it worth losing my T5 W2 tar pit for the deepstriking firepower? I already have anti tank covered for the most part with a ravager, a raider, and a trueborn blaster venom.
In either of these cases, is it worth using a succubus instead of an archon? They're going to be on foot running like hell regardless.

Reminder that Drop Pods can literally block entire streets. Reminder that Drop Pods can literally form blockades. Reminder that two Drop Pods can force entire armies and armoured columns to change direction or waste time and shots.
Reminder that Drop Pods are the PERFECT way to deploy the highly underrated 10 man, 2 combat team Devastator squad.

>>54731315
>I honestly hopes Gamza gets hit by a truck. He once called Terminators in a Land Raider a Deathstar during 7th. He once said that he hasn't lost a game in years, and tabled a decurion with normal marines with no grav.
hold on a moment, while I don't like his content (he lectures instead of creating discussion) I wouldn't wish any harm to come to him or his channel.

If anything, I would prefer if he just improve the format of his content so that we have more actually good content.

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>>54731208
>>54731237
I'd prefer GW stick to female characters with face like this.

>you can only overwatch if the enemy is within the range of the your weapon when they start charging
>those with weapons with a shorter range get to stand there and do nothing as the enemy runs straight for them

Or does charging teleport the enemy in front of you or something, giving those with shorter ranged weapons no time to react?

>>54731301
you first friend

Thinking of making a Tyranid army, what's the meta thing to do right now?

>>54731399
RAW it's "nothing personnel kid"

>>54731372
Don't disembarking count as moving? Seems real bad. Also devastators have long ranged guns. They can stand in 1spot all game

>>54731414
the meta thing is to spam genestealers and charge on turn 1

use the swarmlord. His buffs are nuts

Question you guys, I have this squad below:
>Company Vet Squad(5), SS(2), P Sword(3), P Axe(2), Plasma Pistol
I'm wondering how to load out each person. Do I give a shield to an Axe and Sword? Both Axes or Swords? I'm guessing Axe and P pistol for Sarge, but I'm up in the air after that. Help would be appreciated.

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>>54731377
these clickbait thumbnails on his channel have got to stop

>>54731109
ferrus i swear to pops

>>54731414
Tervigon, blob of 30 Termagants with 10-15 Devourers and Fleshborers on the rest, Exocrine and a unit of Venomthropes and, unless your store bans FW, a Malanthrope. After that play whatever you like the look of.

>>54731425
Disembarking, not sure.
Standing in one spot is shitty if there's a better spot somewhere else.

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>>54730748
Game in one hour. Advice or feedback?
Also how do people feel about Red Hunters?

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I just finished the Last Chancers, and holy goddamn fuck that whole thing was a ride. Haven't had a book series have me that fucked up for a long time, was some Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now type shit.

I'm glad I got an explanation as to the fucked up shit Kage did in each book, and that he wasn't a monster, he was just fucked from the beginning. The whole final act of book three had me furious right up until the end, that wasn't the Kage I knew, but then I was right, and everything was okay.

Has Thorpe ever said if The Colonel made it out or not? Obviously Kage didn't, but in the end he did his duty, and earned his goddamned salvation in the eyes of the Emperor.

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>>54730893
Since when is a bloodletter hotter than this?

>>54731516
>man butt

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Shit, just realized that the Intercessor kits are up apparently, any thoughts
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marines-Primaris-Intercessors?_requestid=3933715

like all the extra bits they come with, no more single model with a holstered bolt pistol

Orks are going to be the last codex, arent they

>>54731428
Swords with boards and pp with axe on sergeant. That way you get more wounding on 3 attacks and you'll be taking the sergeant off the board last anyway so it's a good idea to give him all the cool stuff. Also, let your guys die like this:
No AP: sword w/ Bolter, axe w/ Bolter, sword w/ SS, sergeant
AP: sword w/ SS, sword w/ bolter, axe w/ bolter, sergeant
Your SSs are meant to take the brunt of high AP attacks so you should make them justifiably expendable, but protect them against attacks where their SSs would be useless.

>>54731377
He doesn't have anything good to say. He should just stop making videos. It'd be one thing to lecture about the mechanics of the game if he were actually knowledgable about 40k, but he knows nothing.

Actually he knows less than nothing, what he knows is contrary to the truth.

>>54731539
So it will be the best one

>>54731539
Yupp, 6 months before 9th ed is released

>>54731539
hopefully we're going to be in one of the xeno ones that hit before the end of the year

and when we get that dex I think our army will be one of the best in the game, assuming GW gives us just a couple good warlord traits/stratagems

>>54731522
That's a lady butt and you know it. It's a forgivable assumption considering most of the men in this hobby are thikk

>>54730763
Daemons don't exist anon. We have dismissed those claims.

Has anyone tried using a Daemon Army for both WH40K and AOS? I'm trying to save money by using the same army for both games.

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I thought this might be marginally interesting, so I tried to chart the number of products that GW sells of each major faction on their store. Sadly, you can't just use the values they have listed, due to lots of overlap, so I had to do a fair amount of manual counting and as such these numbers likely have a small margin of error. Regardless, the overall trends should be accurate.

This is potentially useful as it gives a very rough indication of how much product-resource GW has decided to allocate to each faction.

>>54731534
How they did the stalker and auto bolters is really smart. I admire that.

>>54731539
Well, I've heard word of a 'nid codex around December.

>>54731575
consider fritz's videos, where there are a lot of things he gets wrong or doesn't know

but fritz videos are awesome because he doesn't claim to be any authority, he presents things as his experiences and wants viewers to share their own experiences and to spend time thinking about 40k.

Gamza's videos are more "this is the way it is because this is the way I think it is and I am so manly and the best and don't give a shit about what other people think"

>>54731609
I have for WHFB and 40k, now just 40k.

Thanks for reopening that wound.

>>54731612
Thanks anon. It is interesting to see for example that GSC have the least number of unique products although they are relatively popular. However in this particular case I think that it might be biased due the faction using most of the imperial guard stuff.

>>54731612

>Apostrophe on Tau

Fuck it's leaking everywhere so fast, why are people this stupid.

Nobody's using Aaeldarii, but the apostrophe is happening.

>>54731534
It's interesting that there's no power sword in the kit. I guess the only way to get a power sword for them is to buy one of the chapter upgrade packs (which is presumably why some chapters don't get a power sword). The accountants win again!

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>>54731612
*or duplicate products

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>>54731594
That is Hank Hill butt, pic related is female ass.

>>54731654
you don't like it when the Astra Militarum do battle against the T'au?

>>54731504
This looks pretty good to me. At 800 points you'll just have a ton of bodies on the table, with enough good weapons to have an answer to anything I can think of that they might have, aside from flyers.

>red hunters
I've never seen a Red Hunters army personally, although I heard they were quite good in 7th edition. No idea about 8th though. Your WIP models are looking pretty good though.

How would people feel about a guard army with a bit of a pin-up/punk feel to it? Nothing too over the top, but having some pin-up girls on the end of my valkaries and even tanks seems like it would be sort of badass.

>>54731669
How did they fuck that up?

>>54731612
All xenos are about 5% if we divide the factions between.

Nice!
Better off than I thought.

>>54731612
well my orks are in a better place than I thought

I just wish there was a way to know how many of us played what army

>>54731652
I've considered this as well. It's really clever on GW's part, as they got an entirely new and thematically distinct faction while needing to supply a minimal number of new products.

>>54731654
Eh, T'au was already the name of their home planet, now the apostrophe has just moved into their race and empire names as well.

>>54731677
>pin up models in your army
paint them well, don't sperg over them, and have some male pin-ups too

>>54731693
Forge World < Citadel.

>>54731663
>not buying Black Templars, Grey Knights, Blood Angels or Dark Angels kits from "hoards of bits"
>not archiving that extra cool factor on your minis.

(you) (yourself) to blame.

>>54731697
Each loyalist legion gets about 3.5%

Have the chaos codex leaked enough to make an army yet or is there blanks?

I get conscript spam is hated, is it because it's cheesy or because it takes way too long time to play?
How much less will people hate me if i get trays to make it go fasta.

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>Want to buy Horus Rising audiobook
>£29.99

What the fuck, is there somewhere cheaper?

>>54731720
Slaanesh model < Everything else.

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>>54730654
Orks!

>>54731677
Don't do it. Nobody's ever been able to make it seem in good taste and everybody's going to look at you weird for plastering tits and ass all over your toys.

>>54730868

>can only achieve warlord slain objective if all AL characters are slain

now that is fucking cool

>>54731697
Yeah! I was surprised to see that sort of symmetry. Along with the fact that SM is about 1/3rd of releases and Imperium as a whole is about 1/2 of releases. Makes me wonder of GW considers these sorts of ratios when they release products.

>>54731704
That's really what I was trying to approximate here. It's very difficult to get an accurate census of players, and I'm not immediately aware of accurate sales numbers per-faction, so the next step out is the indirect measurement shown here: Where does GW think it'll make the most profit by providing products? While not a direct one-to-one with playercount, it likely sheds some insight into how GW views these different playerbases.

>>54731669
oh my asuryan

>>54731663
>implying I'm not a DA player with enough swords to outfit a company

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>>54731504
Christ dude thin your paints.
Take your time so the paint goes where you want it to.
Add highlights.
Actually paint the lenses instead of doing one flat color. They're really easy. Paint them black, or any dark color. Do a highlight in one corner, and a white dot in the other.

Drill your barrels if you haven't already.

You don't need to be Michelangelo to paint something decent.

>>54731722
Nah, but, what I meant was blood angels and space wolves intercessor sergeants cannot take a power sword. Presumably because their primaris upgrade packs won't include one.

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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT

>>54730740
What a miserable faggot

What should I get to turn my IW 30k force into a 40k one? I have 30 dudes, 10 havocs w/ autocannons, 10 missle havoks, 10 siege termies (probably will just have to sit out sadly) 2 medusas, 1 basalisk, 2 earthshaker platforms. Some HQs.

I know I want a DP, I have a helldrake. I really just have no idea how to make a SM army, I've been a necron player for 5 editions, I'm not used to having options

>>54731753
And that was my concern. The appeal of how it was done in WWII seems great, but I feel like everyone who has ever actually done it was a giant faggot about it.

>painting
>hm, maybe I should listen to an audiobook
>hm, maybe I should listen to some 40k audiobooks to keep in the mood
>lol $50 for a Horus Heresy audiobook

Any links pls

>>54731652
Whats interesting about it, its just the way he organized it by including all the other micro factions within their parent except gsc.

>>54731768
I just got these from a friend and was already going to redo them. Thanks for the tips though Sheman Williams.

>>54731809
OP mega mah nigga.

>>54731845
Tell your friend to step up his game

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>>54731753
I don't think he's talking about the models, I think he means the paintjobs/transfers.

>>54730756
Well, first two are easy. A box of hellblasters, a box of Blood warriors, boom.

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I'm thinking of doing a mini diorama with the newest deathwatch Primaris I've made.

I want to attach one part of a xenos at the bottom of the blade, and the second part with thin wire, and blood effect to the top. Like he's just cut a xenos in half. I've got spare orks, Gsc, and harlequins.

( also the arms are temporary till I get some longer Primaris arms, and I'm filling the mold gap at the front etc.)

>>54731794
No wonder he gets shit for views and has no subscribers. All he does is bitch about changes he doesn't like, call everyone stupid who might disagree with him so he doesn't have to face criticism, then lets his retarded subscribers defend his honor in the comments section while he tops up his vape fluid.

>>54731563
Dude, this is exactly what I was looking for. Much love.

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I had the numbers anyway, so why not.

>>54731707

>Eh, T'au was already the name of their home planet, now the apostrophe has just moved into their race and empire names as well.

Exactly, so it comes across as a fuckup whenever they get it wrong.

>>54731889
What got me was "This is a REAL opinion!"
Like holy shit how full of oneself can you be?

>>54731904
cheers

>>54731677
I saw a guard player with little plastic flags on his vehicles that he'd glued playboy photos to, it's just weird.

Lads which unit is your MVP in 8E?
I'm finding mine to be my Emperor's Champion just because of the amount of enemy characters knocking around

>>54731932
My Imperial Guard Sergeant who took out 3 nobs before going down.

>>54730974
>thinking the 55th Crimson Herrings will amount to anything

>>54731924
Flags are weird. He should have just glued the photos to the side of the tanks.

GW nerfed Huron Blackheart, fml

>>54731809

https://mega.nz/#F!GEc1QLRR!BcxtPrEdfvI-778sQnTzjg

here's a lot, I suggest mirroring it yourself if you can.

>>54731932
Reavers would be mine no one I've played pays attention to them so after my Kabalites pump'em full of poison the reavers come in and finish them off with shooting. Then they are off to tie someone up in melee.

>>54731932
Breachers in devilfishes
Such a fun distraction and that drone with a 5++ has done me so much good

>>54731946
>>54731924
>>54731862
My idea was doing the traditional pin-ups from back in the day. Everything being covered.

But still sounds like everyone is sour on the idea.

>>54731950
How so?

>>54731932
My orkanaut has done an impressive amount of work

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>>54731502
Why didn't you just deploy on the right spot?

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>>54731982
I like it honestly give a neat WWII feel to them. As long as it's not super magic realm filled I don't see it being a hindrance bro.

>>54731932
That one regular Grey Knight in power armour with Psycannon that was the only survivor of his unit after a drive-by from 10 Nobz with kombi-skorchas in a battlewagon, who then proceeded to survive 5 lootaz shooting at him, getting shot at by sluggaz and 4 trukks, then got charged by 7 Orks, killed 2 on Overwatch, made all his saves and then killed another Ork with nothing but the fists the Emperor gave him ... surviving untill the end of the battle.

Still thinking about how I should promote him.

>>54731850
>>54731957

Thanks anons

>>54731932
Morkanauts for my orkz, they're really goddamn cost effective

Boys also, people just underestimate the pure murder that is a wall of boys coming at you

>>54731882
Did deathwatch get Primaris support? They have the intercessors and hellblasters under the deathwatch tab in the store

>>54732031
Not a problem paint the food paint! Listen to the good listening! And don't smoke crack!

>>54732018
Italian, of course.

>>54731983
Lord of the Red Corsairs
>index
Friendly Red Corsairs units auto pass morale
>codex
Friendly Red Corsairs re-roll failed to hit results of 1

¬_¬

>>54732018
Doing a female Emperor pin-up with "For the Emperor !" could be funny.

>>54731915
>I've been playing since 2003, so 3rd edition
>so I know what I'm talking about
Lol. Vehicles having attacks in 8th is harking back to 1st and 2nd edition with ram values. When they removed ramming in 3rd people bitched big time that the game was dumbed down.

8th edition has a simplified version of ramming, doing away with tank shock. So it's basically going for a simplified version of a thing that was removed to dumb down the game in an older edition. Gamza is just a massive retard.

>>54732041
Yes, Deathwatch gets access to those units.

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>>54731937

>>54732018
Something like that was really what I had in mind.

>>54732041
they got them, but there's not really any reason to use them over mixed veteran/terminator units

the only primaris unit they have some use for is the apothecary, and only because GW doesn't let deathwatch take normal apothecaries

>>54732058
Take more plasma.

>>54732063

>Deathwatch intercessors

Intercessors aren't veterans with access to fancy wargear.

>>54732073
Go for it man their your dudes! I'd much rather face that than MLP marines or dicks on bases or some such.

>>54732099
I just wanted fearless advancing and charging berzerkers :^(

>>54731982
>But still sounds like everyone is sour on the idea.
No, I legitimately love the idea of pin-ups on vehicles. It's just a lot of work to do right, so I understand why most people don't do it.

>>54732103
Or ARE they??

>>54732112
Now you charge and plasma pistol

20 Reivers in a Primaris list overkill?

Does anyone have a discreet carrying case? I'm looking for a solution to bring a small force to work so I can leave right from the office to play. I just don't want a giant aquila or some gamer symbol with flaming letters all over it.

>>54732115
40K lore in a nutshell.

Why did GW change bloodletters from being mini bloodthirsters to being hive fleet behemoth tyranids?

>>54732113
>>54732104

Thanks for the input. I think I will pick up an iron fist box and try the paint scheme and idea on a box of dudes and chimera.

>>54732104
>MLP marines
Not that Anon, but I had a friend who became a bronie or whatever the fuck they were called back in middle school. Holy shit was he obnoxious, literally everything he did had to have fucking ponies plastered over it

Thankfully, I'm pretty sure he's moved on from that phase

>>54732140
Leave them in yoqur car

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Five more Hellblasters and my 636pt Plasma Spearhead Detachment is finished. Feels good.

>>54732124
not even close

>>54732140
You could just put foam trays for minatures in a regular suitcase. Like, order some seperate foam trays from somwhere, put them in a classy looking suitcase, and done.

>>54731932
Abaddon went from a mediocre unit who only really got taken in fluff scenarios to an absolute force of nature. Before the codex he was good, now that he's cheaper, adds command points, and can get every single god-specific buff cast on him, he's ridiculous. Not Guilliman-tier broken, but very good.

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>>54730621
CONNOR UPDATE

>>54730654
Yup.
Don't bother playing

>>54732028
A little conversion to a brother champion and maybe some touch up on his paint job? Or just maybe a shield badge from a paladin and let him keep his role as a veteran gunner?

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>>54732182
TAKE THE RED DEATHSTAR FOR CHAOS BOYS!!

if I were to hypothetically make a 60 hellblaster list, what would be the best HQ for it?

>>54732125
Maybe. I'm just not sure they're that amazing. Or, to put it another way, IMO their best use is in their ability to grab distance objectives that other primaris stuff couldn't reach, not being killing machines. So if you want 2 ten-man objective grabbers, go for it.

>>54732184
thanks anon, i will take your advice to heart

>>54732182
Only change seems to be UK chaos lost ground, WTF happened guys, did Tau fuck us over?

>>54731669
Wait, Yncarne is female?!

>>54732140
How small are we talking?

>>54732182
im so hard right now

we might actually get a region this time

imperials btfo

>>54732206
Any Captain and anyone that let's you re-roll wounds and an apothecary. Optimise your hitting and staying power.

>>54732215
No, it's Slaanesh

>>54732215
its an eldar yes

>>54732213
Didn't ultramarines just get done fisting the Tau into submission? Poor lads have Stockholm syndrome.

>>54732219
WE HAD MORE GROUND YESTERDAY, WHERE HAS IT GONE

>>54731793
Thank you for this.

I'm going to use this every time someone asks about how weapons actually work in 40k.

Just look at the belt of ammo going in, and then the spent cartridges being ejected. GW couldn't into functional guns if they were shot with one. But, it doesn't really matter in my plastic mens army of space-pretend.

>>54732162
Awesome. It's a good feeling to be able to field a fully painted force.

>>54732217
I figure the smallest i could do is 15 custodian guard and a contemptor and still contribute to a 2v2 team game

>Chaos Marks STILL don't give benefits to models that take them
LOL WHAT THE FUCK EVEN IS THE POINT THEN

>>54732235
Ultras, along with everyone else, got BTFO by Tau in Damocles. Then AdMech came in to set space on fire for Chaos.

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Been poking through some older books, since I started getting into 40k in middle 7E. The 5e Rulebook states the Tyranids have consumed a dozen galaxies prior to the Milky Way, and a little maths there makes them past Kardashev 2 levels of power given they almost literally eat planets. I doubt they'd be K3 due to not having sustained energy from those galaxies, but still, DAMN that's a lot of bugs.

Omnissiah damn them, that's considerably more potent than what we've seen of Chaos or pretty much anyone else in the setting, since there's about 17 million Bloodthirsters (8^8), and if we assume the other gods have roughly the same that's 70ish million Greater Daemons. If they follow the same Sacred Number exponential system, which is unlikely, because Tzeench would be all-powerful and Slaanesh screwed, four hundred million. Anyone have any lore on how many lessers and misc. Daemons one Greater Daemon would command?

>>54732244
Disintegrating ammo belt linkages have been a thing for ages, retard. Kill yourself.

>>54732246
Feels SO good

>>54731932
My Sergeant who, after having his squad wiped, killed a charging yarrick with a combi-melta

I'm thinking of writing a medical sitcom starring an Apothecary, Medic, Hospitaller and Dok. MASH 40,000.

>>54732276
God I miss that game

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>>54732205
I made that, here's another I made.

>>54732295
Add a Magos Biologis in there. He'd oscillate between being a straitlaced emotionless motherfucker and wanting to join in with the Dok's experiments.

>>54732303
Thank you for your service Anon!

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Is daemon summoning going to be a viable tactic as Word Bearers or should i just forget about it?

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Added the Buttery Biscuit Bases to my Wario Marines and fixed the shitty flying stand for the inceptor. Did you get anything done today anons?

>>54731932
My Lychguard which have invuln saved a total of 582 wounds so far this edition.

>>54732330
Who the fuck knows. Being able to deliver a greater demon properly is nice

>>54732314

Sounds good, I want people who could feasibly work together so he's a fine addition. I figure they'd tolerate the Dok as his unorthodox methods of cutting things off and reattaching them occasionally proves useful.

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Cyraxus get announced yet?

>>54732372
Yeah, like two years ago.

>>54732278
Not sure if this is bait. I'm talking about the size of the actual ammo, dingbat.

>>54731932
Contemptor dreadnoughts. Killed three carnifexes by himself. A godamned mvp that fucker is.

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>>54730740
>"Whoever made this rule should go dive off a bridge and never make rules again"

what a nice guy

>>54731315
>his made up story about girls and yugioh

I wonder how many friends he has

>>54732399
with what loadout

>>54732349
This is the first I'm hearing that the base/stand for the inceptors is bad. What's up with them?

I don't like to glue models and paint but i like models in general
what do

Getting back into 40k. What do I do with my old Iron Warriors Basilisk? I don't see any rules that show that I can use it due to KEYWORDS.

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>>54732349
primed some eldar stuff (damn this Houston weather i'm getting my eldar finished painting this week come hell or high water)
planning a build for sonic blasters
ordered a warlock/autarch on bike
planning an ork warlock conversion

>>54731932
burning chariot, pistol and anti tank for my army that lacks it (or my damn havocs have a nice view but the enemy is out of line or sight or range every game)

>>54732276
Tyranids have always been assumed able to overrun the entire galaxy eventually... but they won't because they don't sell enough to be the greatest threat to every other race at once. I guess you can explain it as the fleets that came from every completely devoured galaxy just sorta went everywhere, and very few of them will actually make it to the Milky Way. And if the nids ever did eat everyone in the galaxy, all the Chaos gods would starve and die. I imagine the galaxies they did eat had their own Warp deities that are now just rotting husks in the Immaterium, with no being left living to remember their names, much less worship them.

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what do you think of my Primaris Chaplain?

>>54732437

Commission someone. All the satisfaction of buying, choosing paint schemes and looking at/playing with them with none of the effort.

>>54732330
I'm not sure. If I've understood the rules correctly, it probably takes 3 turns to get a summoned daemon unit into close combat, where most daemons want to be:
>1 turn to get the summoning character into position (because he can't move & summon)
>1 turn to summon (but they probably won't make the charge this turn, even with an icon)
>and then finally move & charge
It just doesn't feel worth it IMO.

>>54732447
Spooky/10

>>54732419
Kheres and fist.

It was just insane.
Also the same dreadnought killed Longstrike on a shooting battle.

>>54730697
Ding ding ding autism alert!

>>54732255
You can get camera cases with pluck foam pretty cheap, they look pretty professional

>>54732459
It's list tailoring on the fly though.

>>54732447
Highlight the bone up a bit further, then youll be a+

>>54732447
I'd put a brighter highlight on the "ribcage", but other than that he looks great. Did you get the model early or did you literally finish this in less than two days?

>>54732452
it looses the point though...
i WANT to paint and glue but i can never make myself do so.
It just feels tedious, fug

>>54732459
Daemons also don't have conventional transports though, and many of them will just get destroyed before they reach melee. Summoning is one of the best ways to actually ensure they reach melee.

>>54732209
62 attacks not including pistols for 2 10 man groups

I'm thinking more disruption with leadership and overwatch fuckery than super killy. They're still 2w 3+ too don't forget

So I'm trying to make a BA successor and bought a couple of the BA Tac marine Squads so I could get heavy flamers for them. Anyway so on the BA Tac marines the left pauldrons have the BA symbol modeled on, but since these aren't BA I was thinking of explaining that away as being part of the armor itself that was given to the successors when they split. Can anyone think of a better explanation? No-one else will care but I still want an explanation for why these guys are still wearing BA heraldry.

>>54732018
Interesting to see such a good freehand on such a shitty painted tank.

>>54732499
>>54732502
just got done doing that rib highlight, and yeah got it yesterday and almost finished today

also should i dust up the lower part of the coat some?

>>54732513
Well, how much have you painted so far? Sometimes just seeing FINISHED minis motivates you to finish more of them.

Have you played many games with them unpainted? Sometimes a particular model doing something cool will inspire you to work on that character or unit as "reward" for them doing good for you on the table.

I know it's hard to stay motivated, but if you gotta trick yourself or make up interesting reasons to work on a particular model right this moment, that's what you gotta do. Because it is fucking tedious, but it's also rewarding. Focus on the reward more than the process.

>>54732540
If you have experience with it, sure. If you've never dusted a coat, don't experiment and ruin a very nice model.

One last thing: The next time you use that Texture paint, apply it thicker, you can still see the brushmarks.

Guys I want to get into HH novels and I wonder where should I start.
Would Mechanicum be a good starting point?
I know I should go in chronological order but I like AdMech and I want to see if I will actually like the novels at all.

>>54732555
i didn't play any games my bro
i have no friends.
i just collect for collecting purpose

>>54732570
Start with the first one

>>54732182
I lost so many games already but I'm doing lass bad on week two. I did really good and won a game vs guard but today I played a game vs harlequins and got tabled easily.

How the fuck does one even fight harlequins? they have huge penalties to hit everywhere and 4++ across the board and tons of psykers.
Mortal wounds? from what? Expensive sorcerers?

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>>54732499
>>54732502

How's this for highlights?

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>>54731352

is this a new meme?

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>>54732599
woops my bad

>>54732577
Well, in that case, it would be doubly a waste not to paint them. Just focus on how good they'll look on display once done.

>>54732616
Awesome! Man, his pimp stick is just perfect.

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Which skull is best skull, and which model is need of more skulls?

>>54732647
human i guess, also there are blood letter heads in there since i think daemons lack bones

>>54732640
i wanna get some necron compound for better metal highlights but im glad with how this came out, only started painting warhammer a month and a half ago

Do legion traits have the same restrictions as chapter tactics?

>>54732647
Well I guess I have no excuse for not making a bunch of Servo-Skulls, what else should I make with the other 337 skulls?

>>54731352
you should use scourge as heavy weapon teams.
4 blasters/lances in one squad.
or
A cheaper anti-infantry squad with carbines/splinter cannons

>>54732647
None of them

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

>>54732392
What about it? Bolt rounds have small cartridges that ignite the propellant but also launch it out of the barrel at a high enough velocity that it's still a lethal projectile at point blank range. This was one of the key weaknesses of Gyrojet - it's close range power was entirely non-lethal until after about 10m.

Retard some more, lorelet.

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>tfw GW solidify Black Legion as Abaddon And Those Other Guys I Guess

God, I fucking hate Abaddon. I want to play Horus' legion, not Abaddon's.

>>54732599
>>54732616
>>54732664
Yes, much better!
Skip the Necron Compound and get Stormhost Silver, though. It's nice and shiny and dry-brushes well enough.

>>54732710
"Hours was weak. Horus was a fool. He had the whole galaxy in his grasp and he let it slip away" - bitter edgy first captain