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EDH/Commander General /edhg/

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RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question:
What's your next brew, /edhg/?
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First for cats are gay and suck as a tribal.
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>>54646766
Sultai Big X's, with Tasigur at the helm
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>What's your next brew, /edhg/?
Doran, Gonti or Queen Marchesa
Thoughts?
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>>54646766
Thinking about big and red neheb deck but i'm not sure.

>>54646830
Serve your Queen
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After Kaalia gets built, it's either going to be Newzuri or pic related.
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>>54646766
>What's your next brew, /edhg/?
I'm torn between breaking down Ghave and putting the BW parts into Alesha, or building Seton Druidball
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>>54646830
Queen Marchesa (long may she reign)

or Doran.
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>>54646774
I remember when he was first spoiled, I thought he was ludicrously absurd.

(2)UW
Gets you a 3/4 creature that makes your instants/sorcerys uncounterable. Let alone them having rebound if he ATTACKS!

Not even deal damage to a player, just attack. Which makes it very easy to keep him alive.
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>>54646766
Working on giants tribal but stuck on what to use besides the goblin and altar and some tokens to ramp into giants.
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>>54646943
The xmage meta already have him as a 'kill on sight' general.
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>>54646937
>>54646864
anons have spoken. thanks anons.
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>>54646766
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ramos-dragon-engine-competitive-combo/
This, reposting from last thread.
I want to cut a bit more for demonic consultation and epic experiment, what two cards go?
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>>54646706
Lame. Like I get it but still, make it like as foretold and I guess it'll be tame. I just like the idea of counters as a resource and wish they would play with it more. Especially +1/+1 counters.
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>>54646869
What really turns me on about Feldon is that he doesn't exile the creature in the graveyard. Meaning you can spam the same triggers of the same card turn after turn. It's a blessing and a curse that he's mono-red because it means cheap manabase, but I'm limited to big red and colorless bombs as opposed to big R/B/W bombs.
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>>54646830
Gonti is pretty cool.

>>54646766
Next brew probably either Selesnya Selvala or Zegana
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>>54646766
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.
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>>54647030
Doesn't even have to be Big Red. You can do crazy shit like make 4 copies of Humble Defector and make everyone draw a shitload of cards
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>>54646579
That's not quite it though. It's hard to make a god because you have to spread genuine belief in their power, and everyone already knew Xenagos as that satyr fuckhead. Ashiok on the other hand managed to make a god for shits and giggles by giving a bunch of people in a city nightmares.
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>>54646766

I appreciate you at least waiting until the old thread hit the bump limit this time.
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>>54647207
>Ashiok

It was quickly crushed by Ephara no it was threating her terroity but still really weak compared to her.

What I was saying was about faith though.
Where would the wedge/shard gods faith come from?
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>>54647259
From whatever concept is embodied by each Wedge/Shard.
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>>54647306
>>54647259
>>54647207
Wizards said that they want to do more gods (that's partially why gods of destruction don't have indestructible) so maybe Rivals of Ixalan will be about getting into favors from one of the gods of the Golden City? there's possibility for wedge here
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Interesting or interesting reading related to EDH you guys recommend?
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>>54647439
Quetzalcoatl when.
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What are your pet peeves in EDH?

Mine is when an opponent starts asking people to finish him off already as soon as he starts to be in a losing position. They'll urge you to play faster and just kill them, swearing they got nothing, so it can be done with.

Nigger if you really have nothing and you're dead on board, just fucking concede. I won't walk blindly into a comeuppance or some shit, so you sit back while I figure out if I can kill you without overextending and while playing around the interaction spells you're most likely to have.
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>>54647647
Mine is when someone keeps passive aggressively whining when you choose them as a target. The most common excuse is that you have poor threat assessment, but apparently they're never the threat on the table. So I'll hit them to get them off the table.
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>>54647647

Biggest pet peeve: when a player is faced with a decision regarding which player to hurt, and it's either too early or too close for there to be an obvious choice, so they flip a coin or roll a die or something to make it clear to everyone that they're choosing their victim randomly.

Nigger just make a decision. You're not going to hurt our feelings, you're just wasting time.
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>>54647647

I had this group of friends who played risk every weekend in college, and we had this rule, no talking about the game during the game, so that there was no annoying goading like this.

A lot of people find the politics of edh fun so I wouldn't necessarily want to implement the same rule but sometimes people really need to shut the fuck up.

I really hate when this one friend in my playgroup has to criticize every single play people are making despite not being able to see their hands
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>>54647549
Dragon/Snake God
I'd came but if something like O-Kagachi is dragon spirit my hope is lost

>>54647647
when someones counters somebody elses commander and they throw a tantrum and threats that they'll die first etc.
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>>54647207
>Ashiok made a God
Wait what
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>>54647950
It died
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>>54647439
>tri-color gods
>each have extremely powerful activated abilities but require a form of tribute on your upkeep or you take a massive setback as punishment
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I am brewing Anime fatties or Blaxos can't decide which
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>>54646869
Feldon is love, Feldon is life.

Honestly, every time I run him the graveyard nonsense is so satisfying. He can be a little slow, but a good hand with some ramp and discard can be deadly. Gatewatch Chandra is amazing because it lets you wheel every turn and ramping into it early is backbreaking.
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>>54647781
You're against him choosing randomly?

If he says "hey don't get mad at me it was random :^)" then I agree with you but I roll dice to randomly attack people sometimes and think it is fine. There is no expectation that you can't attack back just because I rolled a die.
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>>54647647
Aggressive Proxies
I played against a guy at FNM between matches and he pulls out a 100% Thrun voltron proxy deck. I mean 100%. He didn't even have real fucking forests.
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>>54647950
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/dreams-city-2014-04-23
Cacophony, the God of Cities. Ashiok made him and Ephara killed him almost instantly.
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>>54646766
>New brew
I just finished Doran, Sliver Overlord, the Black Rose, and got parts for dragon tribal. Next up is Phelddagrif, Queen Marchesa (long may she reign), Kraj, Kozilek, Alesha, Nekusar, Omnath is Fucking Pissed, and Ramos, when he comes out.

I may have a problem.
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>>54648042
>using real forests

Pff, why would I do that if I can use proxies with the guru art? :^)
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>>54646869
>>54648005
Best general
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>>54648042
What basics did he put behind the forests?
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>>54647737
this. It's always the combo players who have no board presence for 8 turns then win on turn 9 that become colossally salty bitches when you dare to attack them so you can kill them before they win.

Honorable mention goes to people who play generals like Meren or Kaalia and bitch when their generals get BtFO as soon as they touch the table.
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>>54648076
lol get dunked on
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>>54648031
>You're against him choosing randomly?

I'm against him feeling it necessary to use a physical randomizer rather than just choosing randomly using his brain. You are capable of making a decision with a degree of randomness that, while imperfect, is more than adequate for the purposes of choosing who to attack in a game of EDH. We don't need to bring dice into this. Just pick someone.
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Why is distortion better than butcher? The card draw is only more valuable if you have 2 or less cards in hand and you have to have a card with the same cmc to counter.
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>>54648142
If only Distortion had an ability that benefits off drawing cards and is hard to find in colorless decks.
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>>54648103
>>54648092
they were just cards sleeved backwards, anything that was just a card back was meant to be a forest. I'm still not sure if he was fucking with me
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>>54646774
What's your list for him? I've been brewing something but it seems kind of underwhelming
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>>54648142
Typically you'll have dumped your hand ramping up to 10+ mana. If you still have 3+ cards in hand even after all that, just play em first, then cast Kozilek for a fresh hand.
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>>54648003
Blaxos is hard to build around, honestly. I lurk these threads and he's my finest tuned commander deck, and I can say he's probably weaker than the rest of not only the experience counter generals, but also the weakest of black white.

That being said if you build it like Orzhov prison you can just sit back while no one focuses you, build experience counters and then suddenly shit out thirty 10/10 tokens. So I do that.
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>>54648737

>weakest of black/white

Don't forget about the ghost Jews, fine cards in other formats but draining 1-2 life is useless in edh
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I'm building Kemba. I listed a bunch of card I own and wanted to add into it. Any suggestions or spicy tech?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kitty-titties/
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>>54646830
Doran blows don't do it. I made that mistake
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>>54648737
>but also the weakest of black white

Hola
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>>54648800

>le spicy tech meme
>deck named kitty titties

You have to be over 18 to post here Timmy.
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>>54648142
Butcher can't ever protect himself or prevent a combo from going off. The window for Distortion's ability to save you may be narrow, but it is infinitely larger than Butcher's.
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>>54648800
>first card "dragon throne of tarkir"
>close page
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>>54648923
Jareth needs something to sit on
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>>54648923
okay lol its spicy tech i guess you wouldn't understand fucking spike lol
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>>54648923

lmao fucking spike kill yourself haha >>54649011
is right get out go play modern roflmao
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>>54649011
>>54649043
>samefagging this hard
Throw your shit in the trash then throw yourself in after it
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>>54649011
>>54649043
Sure thing buckaroo. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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Why's Doubling Season so expensive? Does something in Modern/Legacy/Vintage use it?
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>>54649121

not even that poster rofl kys you tryhard
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>>54649147
It's because it's completely fucking stupid in EDH.
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>>54649147

There was a modern meme deck with planeswalker ultimates for a short time but the main reason is simply edh, used to be around $25 then atraxa came and now it's way more
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>>54649147
Doubling Season+PW=Win
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>>54649204
>>54649185
Well looks like I'm gonna have to eat shit and pay out for one then.

>>54649212
PW?
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>>54646766
>What's your next brew, /edhg/?

Currently building a mono black Demon tribal deck, a Geralf and Gisa zombi tribal, and Baral chief of Compliance deck.


Afterwards i am unsure if i'd rather build a Skullbriar deck, hapatra or a Tasigur Villainous Wealth deck
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>>54649224
Planewalker.
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>>54649204

>Local fat neckbeard at LGS builds Atraxa
>Doesn't have Doubling Season
>Can't afford one because he only has autismbucks for income
>mfw he begs me for an hour to trade me one of my extras but I refuse because fuck Atraxa and fuck fat people
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>>54646793
Here here!
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>>54649247
>plays Atraxa
>expects anything from anyone
What drives a man to such reckless faggotry?
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>What's your next brew, /edhg/?

It has to be Azorius in order to reach color parity.

I'm leaning on GAAIV, built as pillowfort control.
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>>54649344

>that gif

is that man okay?
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>>54649236
> being this new
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>>54649391
>phoneposting
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>>54649373
Surface tension of water produces an impact similar to that of obsidian at that speed and height
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>>54649420
>shitposting
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>>54648138
I don't believe you. Flipping a coin or rolling a die is a way to make a random decision, you can't just imagine flipping a coin and pretend that is random.
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Why are emblems allowed to exist. You don't take out doubling season and Tamiyo comes out the next turn they now have an unintractable omniscense.
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>>54648142
Colorless decks are filled with mana rocks so Distortion often draws more cards, he also comboes fantastically with Lion's Eye Diamond.

Butcher is still very comparable though and it's not clear which is better but I prefer Distortion for being flashier and the counter ability is more unique and interesting than Annihilator 4.
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>>54649459
Don't they go away when the walker dies?
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>>54648826
This card could so easily have been a 1/2 for WB or something like that. It's overcosted.
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>>54649476
No
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>>54649476
No, they stay on player
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>>54649476
Fucking no
That's the WHOLE POINT of an emblem
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>>54649459
You run removal for the doubling season
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>>54649476
Emblems are never removed from the game and there is no way to remove them, and Maro has specifically stated there never will be. The whole point of an emblem is that you blow up your walker for a permanent buff
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>>54649476

Do people on /tg/ just have zero willingness to read the rules?
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Best to worst colors for EDH?
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>>54649508
UGBWR
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>>54649505
What's a stack lmao?
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>>54649505
if /tg were a club not reading the rules would be one of the rules
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>>54649449

Look, I don't want to get into a discussion comparing the accuracy with which the human mind and dice simulate randomness. I'm just saying that you don't need to roll a fucking die to pick someone to attack in an EDH game.

Dude asked for pet peeves, that's mine. You want to keep doing it, go ahead, I'm never going to play a match with you anyway.
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>>54649476
No, they continue until Karn or the next game.>>54649491
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>>54649508
It's difficult to compare combinations, but in general U>G>B>W>R, except mono Red is better than mono White.
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>>54649518
I wonder what the game would be like if the stack wasn't a stack and was instead FIFO
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>>54649508
Green
Blue=Black
White=Red
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>>54649545

I've played CCGs that do this, it's awful.
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>>54649572
Tell me more
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>>54649516
>>54649560
>white
>this low
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>>54649247
>bought a doubling season on impulse
>it sat in my Ghave deck forever until I played against the local atraxa shitlord
>I throw it down and he stops the game, points at it and goes ”holy fuck I knew you were a dick. It's players like you who inflate the price by playing it in sub-optimal decks. I don't need it, its a crutch.”
>Predictably, I shit out value then combo off
>Bitches up a storm about how he was one turn away and that I was relying on crutches
>about a week later he joins a game I'm in
>tutors doubling season, expects to play a bunch of emblems and has a really smug look on his face
>my buddy playing brago casts exclusion ritual and exiles it before he gets to do anything
You're doing God's work anon.
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>>54649518
D..damage still goes on the stack right?
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>>54649587
It's a great support color with the best removal but the win conditions are lacking (largely token-based strategies nowadays).
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>>54646766
>What's your next brew, /edhg/?
Let me answer that question with another question: Say I was in your group and I wanted to build a deck around pic related. Would you let it fly?
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>>54649617

Probably.
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>>54649587
It's not my fault it can't compare with Green Blue and Black. They all do important jobs better than white in terms of removal, card advantage, creature threats, ramp, and combo enabling. White is good for a splash and can provide lots of versatility as a 3rd or 4th color but it doesn't belong near the top of the "most powerful". It's fine if white's your jam but it doesn't have the raw potential of the others
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>>54649617
No.
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>>54649617
Only if you play every bolas printed and every U/B/R invocation. :^) for real tho, I would.
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>>54649587
White is the worst monocolor. Even worse than colorless.
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If someone else at the store you go to is already using a commander is it dickish to build a deck with it too?
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>>54649739

No, if you love your waifu you should be willing to share her with your LGS buddies.
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>>54649739
Have sex with them and whoever loses has to give up the commander.
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>>54649617
>7-drop in colors without ramp, can't run doubling season, and can activate at most two times a turn at sorcery speed
sure, go for it
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>>54649739
The traditional ritual is that you present them with an offering in addition to your formal request for permission to do so. If they accept, they will bestow upon you all legal rights to said commander and present you with the card. Of course they will now be required to pursue a new commander to build with, as we all know that there can be only one player of each commander within a certain population size
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>>54649811
>Two times
>Not playing Bolas Artifacts with the Chain Veil and Clock of Omens

Try harder.
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>>54649739
>>54649772
>>54649828
One time at my LGS I saw a five-man game of entirely Meren players. It was the most disgusting thing I've ever witnessed.
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>>54649811
>2
you mean at least 3 times right? Pleaae tell me you meant at least 3.
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>>54649806
>Have sex with them and whoever loses has to give up the commander.
>Have sex with them and whoever loses
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>>54649617
Just use the legal Nicol Bolas as general and put that card in the 99.
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>>54649772
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>>54649889
Have you never beaten anyone at sex before?
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>>54649844
>>54649867
alright you got me, so you can set up so that by t5-7 you can drop a planewalker and either strip my more than halfway emptied hand or steal the top three cards of my deck with no mana to cast them
like I said, go for it.
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>>54649889
Duel sex, it's just like card games except there is sex.
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>>54649967

>not doing 4 player games of sex EDH with your bros and seeing who is the real winner at least twice a week

This board has no casuals sir.
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>>54649995
>yeah i set my penis into attack mode and attack your life points directly
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>>54649967
I beat my wife regularly during sex
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>>54649508
RED
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>>54649993
>with no mana to cast them

What are you doing, anon?
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>>54650007

Does she like it? Some girls are into that.
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>>54650006
I'll sac my barbarian riftcutter to destroy your glacial chasm
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>>54650080
Mmmm I'll squelch that.
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>>54649993
>You may cast that card without paying its mana cost.
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>>54650006
Your creature is not big enough to finish me off :^)
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>>54649995
I only fuck French.
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>>54650146
This is the first round of combat, goy.
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>>54649608
Go back to Facebook, Grampa.
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What happens when a Rule of Law and Possibility Storm are on the field at the same time?
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>>54650194

Nobody can resolve any spells, I once had an enduring ideal deck that utilized this combo
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>>54650162
And it looks like it's your last, already done?
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>>54650207
>>54650194

Forgot to mention that commanders and other spells cast from somewhere other than the yard (for instance, let's say uba mask is in play) can still be resolved because they don't trigger poss storm
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>>54650194
When a player casts a spell from their hand, Possibility Storm triggers, they exile the spell, reveal until they find a target, aren't given a choice, and put it on the bottom of their deck. If they cast a spell from anywhere else, such as Flashback, it resolves, but then they can't do anything else because of Rule of Law.
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>>54650134

> Not being so honorable that you pay when anyway.

Casuals....
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>>54650277
Having on the battlefield? What are you a fucking knight?
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>>54649617
It's shit, so okay.
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>>54650098
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>>54648826
This was my first commander. God damn it is awful.
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Alright guys, I decided to start building colorless since you guys made it seem interesting, and I already have most of the expensive cards.
How well does it do against a semi-competitive meta?
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I want to make everyone else go bog-fucking-slow, while I go blazing fast and shit out huge threats that my opponent's can't answer.

Which commander would be good for this?
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>>54650669
Selvala Stax.
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Wasn't karn super expensive over the last few years? Cause he seems really cheap now unless I'm forgetting everything.
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>>54651147

Karn silver golem was never very expensive as far as I know, bout the same as usual

Karn liberated keeps going up and up slowly, was like $30 a year or so ago now he's like $50
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>>54651147
Which Karn are you looking at?
Liberated is still like $60, but if you're thinking Silver Golem, he was never particularly pricey.
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>>54649858
I saw once a six man all Oloro game. It was pretty boring, since all of the decks were durdle decks
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>>54650297

> What are you a fucking knight?

Level 8, Chaotic Neutral. Your move, sire.
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Anyone else like to make their Generals in Honey Select and then watch them fuck?
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>>54651466
Yes.
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What would be a good kinda creature heavy shell to use for Surrak Dragonclaw as my commander?

I know Maelstorm Wanderer is better but I like the "creatures you control can't be countered" aspect, especially because Temur has some nice ETB ability creatures.
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>>54651483
Just put Surrak in the 99 of Wanderer.
And grab a Prowling Serpopard
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>>54651566

Have them for Temur energy, I mean is Wander THAT much better?
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>>54651611
>is two up to 7 CMC spells better than a trample anthem at instant speed
Yes.
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>>54651611
I think it's more that Surrak is mostly just really boring to most people. Like he's a nice big value guy but he himself doesn't actively do anything exciting
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Uncounterable creatures is actually a bit narrow and mediocre honestly, the way to beat creature decks isn't counter spells it's board wipes
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>>54650669
U/R stasis featuring paradox engine, artifact ramp, and a dumb izzet commander of your choice

I prefer locust god
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>>54651736

I like keranos with stasis and MLD effects
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>>54651736
Would jori en work or would she be better as a storm commander? Does storm even work in commander?
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>>54651736
Alright I'm tossing that shit into my WHEELS N DEALS Locust God shit
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>>54648042

>100% proxy deck
>EDH

For what purpose.png

If there's a card I don't have for a deck I just throw something else in there. My deck isn't going to crumble if i'm lacking that card.
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>>54651757
Storm works fine but jori en does not. Yeah the one free card is nice but if youre trying to draw thirty in one turn and win the one extra card is unimportant
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>>54651757
Also im starting to realize that all the commanders i actively want to build are female.
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>>54647647

People who get visibly upset when cards are cast. And by this I mean people who are visibly upset everytime I cast a Warp World, the good ones are the rest who chuckle and let the roulette wheel of fun go.
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>>54651817

It's like you found the exact right sequence of letters to make me angry.
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>>54651786

> My deck isn't going to crumble if i'm lacking that card

This is one of the reasons I like it, also one copy per, *muah* !
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>>54651845

Look mate, some people play Stax decks in commander. I do the complete opposite, in fact I want you to cast your spells. All of them. And then we'll all copy them.
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>>54647138
Selvala is fun as fuck.
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Let's play another exciting round of Guess this Curve.
Should be really easy.
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>>54651483
H Y D R A S

Big motherfuckers with trample that can't be countered and set off every one of green's draw enchantments. Maelstrom is strong, but he's got a lot more variance to him and can whiff hard if you don't draw into the right scry pieces. Surrak is far more consistent and lets you get away with ramp shells, especially a lot of the bigger mana dorks. Mix in Lifecrafter's Bestiary and Vizier of the Menagerie if you want some of what Maelstrom does as well.
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>>54651962
>Grixis artifacts
Mishra? I see a few red 5 drops, one could be Possibility Storm. Here's my offering.
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>>54648826
fucking theros m8
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>>54651962
Breya?
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>>54652187
Yellow is multicolor, not white.
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>>54649491

I think the worst part about it is that it has to tap 2-3 times to do anything worth it. And if you use it over 2 turns as removal they still get a free Divination off of it.

Wizards is really good at printing really really shitty cards.
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>>54651701
>>54651687

I mean I guess you guys are right.
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>>54652063
Correct. I put it together this evening and I haven't actually gotten to play it yet, but according to Tapped Out, it's about $1,900 worth of cards. Should be fun.

>No Multicolored cards above CMC 4
So it can't be anything like Gitrog, Mazirek, or Nath.

No Carnifex Demon, so that makes Hapatra unlikely. Not anywhere near enough artifacts for Glissa. No Lord of Extinction hurts the chance of it being Jarad. Going all the way up to 9 cost creatures feels out of place for Skullbriar.

It could just be Meren, but having so many CMC 1 cards seems telling. I'm going to guess Rhys, assuming those are a bunch of Elves.
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>>54652193

> Yellow

ITS GOLD!...and it still hurts, dammit!
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>>54649491
>>54652230
I feel like they could have done well enough with making it have to tap to put a fate counter, but only costing mana to use the other effects. Maybe 1W and 1B.
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>>54652292
It actually is a Skullbriar. The 9 mana is a Decree of Savagery which almost always gets cycled.
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Thinking of buying one for my Marath deck but I thought I'd ask here first.

Voice of Resurgence for Marath yes or no? It's not on EDHrec so I don't think many people run it but I can double it's tokens and bring it back with Sun Titan.
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>>54652553

It's okay, I would say, if you're running Gaea's cradle and/or earth craft, don't run voice, if you aren't, do run voice

Not because voice is bad with earthcraft or cradle, but rather if you're going competitive enough for cradle and/or earthcraft, voice isn't good enough and doesn't support the degenerate gameplay, but if you aren't going degenerate, he's pretty cool as another cheap token guy
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>>54652553
But what will you do with those tokens? They have no trample, no protection, and a boardwipe will make them just as dead. Voice doesn't provide protection for crucial pieces, it doesn't even provide a deterrent 3/4s of the time. You have your token producer in Marath, get your protection somewhere else.
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Do you think there's enough cards to support a food and drink themed deck? One where all the art includes something that is clearly food?
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>>54648103
when I started playing I proxied a bunch of basic lands. so was life in a poor rural town in my third world country, now I play in America and sleeve my un lands for 3 decks.
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>>54646952
Urza's incubator
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>>54652780
I don't know what you're doing but I support it
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>>54652780

Possibly, if including eaten themes flavor.
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>>54652780

Commander. Cannibles.
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>>54646766
>>54647142
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/4f4gz

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.
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>>54652780
i suport it as long as you get some recycle
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>>54652929
>>54652893
>>54652878
>>54652852

I wonder if there's any way to abuse Protean Hulk if I'm limited to food themes?
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>>54652899

> BeLIEving he forgot twice today

(Inhales)
...
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>>54652942
>Meat and Eggs
>Carrion Feeder
>Summoner's Egg
There's definitely abuse potential.
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>>54652780
Gotta have this
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>>54653017

*Ahem*...and...
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>>54653031
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>>54653059

I'm really digging this. Make it, and we'll have show and tell.
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>>54653066
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>>54653083

Rather obtuse card, but ok...
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>>54653017

Don't worry, I could never forget that masterpiece.
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I can't even begin to describe this game, I changeling'd for 30 and hit for over 800 with double strike
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>>54653165

> Jewcube

:)

I also think a deck around unsavory flavors would be a treat. Moralless heathens that need to be healed by the Lord, through thine sword. Like stamping our a rat, you _know_ they know you know.
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>>54653059
5th edition version is better for the theme
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>>54652780
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Rank color pairings from favorite to least favorite. Rate other anons.

1. UR
2. GR
3. BG
4. UB
5. UG
6. BR
7. UW
8. BW
9. RW
10. GW

White is the most boring color.
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>>54652780

Does this count?
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>>54653356
Golgari>Azorius>Selesnya>Gruul>Orzhov>Dimir>Izzet>Rakdos>Boros>Simic
>Simic in the top half
>Izzet in the top half
Neck yourself.
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>>54652943
you should really reread the link of the post you replied to
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>>54653356

Orzhov
Golgari
Simic
Selesnya
Azorius
Izzet
Gruul
Dimir
Boros
Rakdos
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>>54653356
Gruul
Selesnya
Simic
Orzhov
Dimir
Rakdos
Izzet
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>>54653356
10. UR
9. WU
8. WR
7-3 Does not matter
2. BG
1. BR
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>>54653373

Yes, very much so!

>>54653322

I'm a first edition kind of guy, just old fashioned like that 'spose.

Bring snakes and accessories, we want to sharp in front of our guests, now don't we?
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>>54653356
BW
BG
UB
BR
UW
GW
UG
RW
UR
GR
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>>54653356
Azorius
Golgari
Dimir
Simic
Rest go here
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>>54653373

Damn, I've been meaning to buy him for a while, done and done.

> Fukken fancy.
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>>54652780

more gems from Mirage

Afiya Grove is a close fit for the theme too
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Is Acidic Slime worth putting in a deck? I always see it on EDHrec for green decks. Is 5 mana worth destroying an artifact, enchantment, or land?
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>>54653554

if you have cool reuse tech like reveillark, ghostly flicker, and so on, definitely

If not, it's just okay, versatile but overcosted removal spell + good blocker, decent but not crazy
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>>54653554

Don't forget the deathtouch.
Basically it's just one of those removal cards people put in without thinking, like Cyclonic Rift or Blasphemous Act. Unlike those cards, acidic slime isn't always justifiable.
Also, how many of those decks run birthing pod? Birthing pod makes Acidic Slime much better.
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>>54653554

Any one of those types, a choice? Perfect for EDH, more choices on a card the better, turn one card into three, two if you count spell like abilities with a creature, so four, five+ if it makes multiple.

So....IS it a good card or am I drunk, stoned and sleep deprived? Trick question.
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I'm gonna make Atraxa Experience - Meren / Ezuri early / mid game, Daxos late. What's some good stuff to throw in this sort of deck? I'm thinking a hybrid suite of hatebears/strong etbs to abuse with Meren and buff with Ezuri, and then follow up late with Daxos and the new mound of Experience counters to dump out a ton of fat enchantments. What's some good stuff to aid this plan?
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>>54653750
if you're playing atraxa I figure you might as well jam a bunch of planeswalkers in there, or pick up an infect subtheme
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>>54649531
Most people play with d20's tho, its literally the easiest thing to do when you want true random.

>your pet peeve is dumb and that's my pet peeve
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>>54653866
>not having a card of each player's face and drawing at random
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Had a friendly little "tourney" tonight. I ended up getting first with my Mina and Denn deck (which it's "real" Commander is Omnath Locus of Rage/Avenger of Zendikar). We had two pods of 4, with the top two of each pod forming a new pod for a second game, and the bottom two forming a new pod as well.

First game was against Animar, Locust God, and Radha. I had a decent hand, and managed to do quite a bit of work between Impact Tremors and Tunneling Geopede, eventually drawing into Avenger of Zendikar and running over my opponents with Plant Tokens and Archtype of Aggression.

I really shouldn't have won the second game. WUBG parter deck (for colors) that had won his first game with Hermit Druid into Lab Maniac, a very solid Ertai the Corrupted control deck, and the Radha player who came in second to me in the first match. I had to mull down to 5, until I hit a hand with a Mountain and Forest + Exploration and Azusa, so I had a slow start. Fortunately Ertai was focused on keeping Hermit Druid into Lab Maniac from going off, and Radha was just swinging away at Hermit Druid as well. Once Hermit Druid was dead, I baited out Ertai's control and counter spells which let Radha hit him over and over again using an 8/8 pumping other creatures with Dragon Throne of Tarkir to deal damage even while losing creatures to No Mercy.
Ertai went down, and with a well timed top deck of Seasons Past I was able to get my removal back to stall Radha long enough to get Avenger of Zendikar out and cast Decimator of Provinces to seal the win.

Prize was two Oath of the Gatewatch and two Fallen Empires (lol) Booster packs. Nothing too great, just a Chandra Flamecaller, but I had a ton of fun and played against people I don't normally play with so totally worth it.
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>>54649806
>tfw when your waifu is Trostani
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>ever since i was a kid i loved pirates
>watched every episode of one piece with my dad
>see this guy spoiled
>notice how cheep pirates are

so its never going to be anything other than tribal jank right?
im fine to build him as my jank fun commander right?

http://mythicspoiler.com/ixa/cards/admiralbeckettbrass.html the real spoiler if anyone is interested
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So is Ramunap Excavator gonna end up being crazily priced later on because of EDH?
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>>54654540
it'll probably go up a little bit eventually, if it goes over 10 dollars I'll be shocked
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>>54654453
At leastthis alter has LoL best character
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>>54654650
it was the only readable version i could find
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So why's Omnath, Locus of Rage one of the top commanders? What's so special about him as a commander?
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>>54654453
could be fun as steal your shit sub theam
pirates and some steal spells
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Food for thought:

Why is green's card draw so much better in this format, and why is red's so much worse?
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>>54654540
It needs time, or a deck in standard. It will be a long ass time before it hits fuckhueg numbers, since print runs are much larger these days
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>>54654453
>wotc doesn't browse mongolian basketweaving forums for ideas, they said
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/52244696/#52306178
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>>54654689
Red and white have always had bad draw.

The colors have strengths, and red doesn't get draw. They get wheels, which are only ever CA if your opponent had more than 7 cards in hand, or if they die before they can use those cards.
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>>54654674
By the way, i'd buy now the good pirate cards you can find.
If they spike you'll regret waiting, if they don't you would have bought them anyways.
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>>54654724
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/718322#paper
here is a list of EVERY one and there prices
i am on Friday
its like 8$ total
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>>54654703

That was posted March 2017. I think Ixalan would have been done by that point in time, since they make sets way in advance.

It's also really crappy and not anything like the tribal legend we're actually getting.
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Do the Ixalian spoiler cover all rares or just a part of them?
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>>54654742
>sets way in advance
Haven't they said this over 10 years ago?There have been many internal changes in Wizards since then.
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Just bought this guy for 15 bucks for my Locust God deck, did I do ok?
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>>54654778
>spoiled a few months ago
>a SHEET
>all art is finished
>rules text is finished
>PRINTED

yea its safe to say it was in the works for a while
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>>54654792
:(
good card though
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>>54654778

they work at least a year in advance iirc. That custom card and the new pirate legendary are just a coincidence.
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>>54654778
Nigger, it was posted in 2017. Even if they did stop designing sets 3 years in advance, you think they arent going to have the sets done a few months in advance? At the very least we know its more than a year, since standard wouldn't be in such a shitty place because they would be able to react to the rotation switch better.
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>>54654820
That custom is a mockup of the already spoiled card to make it legible.
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>>54654836

Not the one posted in this thread, the one linked to by the guy originally responded to.
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>>54654812
fug, what site is that friend?
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>>54654907
It's just TCG Player
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>>54648824
Unless you wen the retarded treefolk tribal way, there's no way to make a bad Doran deck.
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>>54649531
The thing is, even if you use your inner randomizer, the other players might not believe that who you chose was random. This game is full of people who don't know how to lose, leading to something like >>54647737 said. 90% of the time you have dice available at the table, so showing them that it was truly random would lessen the amount of butthurt.
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>>54653750
Proliferate targets permanents and experience counters are placed on a player, so you can only gain your counters from 5 cards. Right?
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>>54655792
Take a moment to refresh your memory of Proliferate.
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>>54655792
Proliferate affects player counters, so it works with things like Infect and Experience
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Does Locust trigger in each card drawn or each instance of drawing?

For example, if one effect makes me draw 3 cards, do I make 3 tokens? Or one?
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so if C17 is going to be tribal, and we already know 2/5 tribes... what do you think the other tribes are going to be?

Cats, Dragons... Zombies? Merfolk? Elves?
Cats-W
Dragons- R
Fishes?- U
Rats- B
Spiders - G
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>>54655792
Both of your assumptions are wrong. Proliferate can place additional counters on players and, importantly, it does not target.
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>>54655846
it would be for each drawn card.
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>>54655849
Anon there are only 4 tribes and we know them all.

Selesnya Cats
5C Dragons
Mardu Vampires
Grixis Wizards

That's all we get.
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>>54655819
I'm a retard, continue with your task.
It sounds fun.
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>>54653750
It's not that great of an idea. You have only 3 cards that benefit from experience counters and they also need to be on the field for the counters to do anything, which is already pretty bad for the strategy, not to mention that both Blaxos and Ezuri need a strategy built for them. Afterall, Daxos needs a bunch of enchantments and even then he's a mediocre token generator. Meren is the only one that fits easily in any creature strategy.
Still, the problems you're going to have are to get the experience legends to do anything or getting the first counter or getting them to stick.
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>>54655861
No it isn't you stupid pavement ape.
>>54655846
You'd make one token for a single draw 3 effect.
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>>54655861
>>54655872
I'm getting mixed messages here.
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>>54655872
>/tg/ player thinks it knows how magic works
You are super wrong
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>>54655872
>I can't read and I'm also retarded
Locust god gives a token for each card drawn, just like with Psychosis crawler
>>54655846
Don't listen to the retard
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>>54655884
You get a token for each card drawn. If you'd get one, it would be worded like The Gitrog monster
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>>54655870
Well, that's a bit of the challenge. The deck lends itself to being grindy, and I think I can do it fairly well with access to all the tutors and recursion colors in magic, not to mention the strength of Atraxa herself. The best part is how much of a lightning rod Atraxa is - cast her first, and you're bound to easily resolve and stick any of the other 3.
Anthem enchantments are fantastic so I see no issue playing Blaxos, honestly. I think the entire deck can play like a hatebears + buffs setup that will be quite potent.
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>>54655872
Compare the rulings to a similar card.
>5/1/2009: If a spell or ability causes you to draw multiple cards, Lorescale Coatl’s ability triggers that many times.
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>>54655864
well i wasn't paying attention, thank you
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>>54655911
Fair enough, but it's still gonna be 3 cards out of 99 and to be honest, the deck you're creating does seem just like a normal Atraxa deck outside of the experience cards
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>>54655933
Grixis Wizards is far from confirmed, but it seems very, very probable right now. Mardu Vampires is also not technically officially confirmed, but that one is so obvious from the artwork it might as well be
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Any spicy tech for this asshole?
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>>54655966
Grixis Wizards has been confirmed, anon.
It was in a Japanese magazine article.
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>>54655966
>>54655994
Also Mardu Vampires were confirmed as well.
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>>54655994
link?
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>>54656013
I didn't figure linking would do much good unless you can read moon.
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>>54656027
I mean I was kind of expecting a link to a translation
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>>54656052
Haven't seen a full translation, just the bullet points.
54 new cards.
WBR Vampires.
UBR Wizards.

That's all that's really worth saying.
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>>54655979
Training grounds, heartstone, the 2 blue eldrazi processors, any removal that puts in the graveyard
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>>54655979
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>>54655961
>Focus on hatebears and recursion / abusing Daxos
>Typical Atraxa
Or do you just mean a deck intending to abuse Atraxa? And again, we're in the colors for basically every tutor in MTG (basically only missing Gamble and Imperial Recruiter), so "only 3 cards" is much, much smaller.
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>>54648142
Such quality bait
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>Literally into August without any spoilers

Is Wizards under the impression purposeful withholding spoilers to force everyone to scramble and preorder for a chance of getting the decent cards in C17 is a good thing? Do they not understand their customer base builds their own hype by deckbuilding with unreleased cards?
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>>54656727
>without any spoilers

You realize the leaks have all been deliberate, right?
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>>54656746

Yeah, and the Jews are putting chemicals in the water to turn white men into women..
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>>54656746
Not a chance. What about WOTC's previous behavior has you believing that?
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>>54656727
they probably realized that this year's set is the weakest out of the precons by far
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>>54656727
for real, i get paid on the 15th and if there isnt anything substantial by then ill probably not preorder anything and just work on existing decks instead
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Hi tg, I need help:

I run a green ramp ish deck but whenever I get something out, the board gets wiped or its killed before the next turn so I can't attack.

I need green or colorless things to keep them alive or give them haste or something so I can actually attack with them.

Pls help
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>>54656841
not gonna happen, just dont let them get blown up in the first place
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>>54656778
>the Jews are putting chemicals in the water to turn white men into women

If the Jews are listening, feel free to actually start doing that any time.
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>>54656821
It'd be pretty damn hard to beat Kalemne.
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>>54656778
If I could I would.
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>>54654812
>mp
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>>54656052
You can use the google translate app to read any picture and translate it on the fly. It's just an ad, but it does confirm the colors and tribes.
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Does anyone have any interesting ideas/builds for scorpion god? He looks cool but I can't imagine anything but a rakdos control deck with an infinite as the primary wincon

>>54656841
You can always run flash effects like Vedalken Orrery and Yeva to play your threats at the end of your opponents turn
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>>54656982

Vedalken Orrery is like $8 now, might as well tell him to play fucking Black Lotus.
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>>54655872
RTFC you moron, it's "whenever you draw a card", not "whenever you draw cards"
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>>54656989
>$8 is expensive
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in the right thread this time, door to nothingness in the new dragon deck?
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>>54657003

Is this your first time in poorfag general?
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>>54656989
ikr, fucking rich fags flaunting, go back to Vintage
>>54657003
>spending more than .02 burgers on a piece of cardboard
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>>54653356

1-GW, UG, UW
2-BG, BR, UB, RG
3-BW, RW, UR
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>>54656982
That's actually not a bad idea. Both cards are somewhat expensive but I'll look into those if I can get a hold of them, thanks!
>>54656867
I think I can get a hold of that, good idea. I will definitely add that one.
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>>54656746
>leaking stuff diverting attention to actual new products being released
Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Wizards has a history of acting like retards.
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>>54656727
Is this your first year with commander? Because they usually just start with the spoilers 2 weaks prior to release.
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>>54656841
Bear, Boar, Snake and Spider Umbra all provide Totem armor and will eat a board wipe and discourage kill spells. Akromas Memorial provides good protection with haste and buffs, and Aestheticism lets you regenerate multiple creatures with mana open. Soul of New Phyrexia also lets you make everything you own indestructible in response to board wipes so there's that to.
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>>54653356
i don't even care about the colors i'm playing anymore, it's all about the archetype i'm doing. there are enough cards in MTG that you can build all the color pairs in several different ways. if you try hard enough, UG can be aggro and RW can be control
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>>54657023
>20$ with shipping
>tfw just paid about 20€ for shipment alone

I hate mcm sometimes.
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>>54657096
>if you try hard enough, UG can be aggro and RW can be control
Post your Boros control list so we can have a laugh.
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>>54657125
a billion tutors for sunforger, a billion targets for sunforger

i never said it would be good
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>>54657125

>tfw you know it's some GIsela shitbrew with an average cmc of like 6
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>>54657094
Those are awesome ideas, I think the 7 drop card might be a bit tough unless I can really get the ramp going, but the Umbras seem very useful and are pretty cheap, and Would if New Ohyrexia seems very cool, though again depends heavily on me being able to get mana out. Still, I will look into them and see what I can incorporate :)
This is my deck atm, for reference, it's pretty bad I know:

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/guided-by-nature-edits-looking-for-tips/

I appreciate the ideas
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>>54657138
Avacyn is also a possibility. It's probably "Turn creatures indestructible, then cast Jokulhaups".dec.
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>>54657082
No, it is more that Wizards clamped down harder on the leakers. INB4 Ixalan leak.
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>>54656989
>this is EIGHT DOLLARS, might as well play a thirty thousand dollar card!
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>>54657125
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/kalemne-sitter-of-faces/
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>>54657023
Reminder that there are anons here who want all cards over 5 cheeseburgers to be banned.
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>>54657239

If you don't have $8 the two might as well be the same. Not everyone can just waste all their money on a game.
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>>54653356
GW may be boring, but it's also the most comfy color pairing.
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>>54657271
>sitter of faces
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>>54657317

>$20 card
>comfy

Just another reminder of how Jews are ruining America
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>>54657278
Sure, but if you ask for a suggestion and don't explicitly state that you're on a budget, suggesting an $8 card is perfectly reasonable.
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>>54657334
Oy vey, check your privilege shitlord!
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>>54657334
>poorfags continue to shit up the thread with their bitterness
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>>54657278
It's not the same even with that. With one you just need to not eat pizza for a week or two, the other would require you to sell your car.
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>>54657407
I knew a guy who got a Black Lotus out of a pack of Zendikar. He ended up selling it for $800.
I feel kinda bad for him.
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>>54657278
If you can't put aside $10 a week at a minimum towards your hobbies then you should reconsider your life choices
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>>54646766
>thread question
probably some variance of mogis punishment/slug

current list is this, anyone have any recommendations on what to add/cut?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mogis-punishment-stax/
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>>54646766
>What's your next brew, /edhg/?
Azorius stuff
I'm not really sure what powerlevel though so its going to be a long brew
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>>54657648
>>54657648
>>54657648

New thread. Boogie on over when you want.
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What's the best artifact toolbox controlish commander?
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>>54657003
I think the problem is that a lot of poorfags are bad at math. They see an 8 dollar card and REEEE that "If all my cards are 8 dollars a deck's gonna be 8 hundred! That's almost a thousand! A thousand is way too much to pay!" -- internally even if all they say is "8 bucks is to expensive"

Now me, I'm... maybe not a poorfag but I do have a fairly tight monthly budget for entertainment-related endeavors like buying new cards. All the same, I bought Land Equilibrium (a 40+ dollar card) for my Scarab God brew because that's well within my monthly budget... and it's by far the most expensive buy I'll have to make for the deck. Like, the distant second is Watery Grave at fifteen and 76 of the cards in the deck are less than two bucks. In the end I'll have invested about 150 into the deck (with a total value of about 100 more thanks to me having some cards already or catching others before recent spikes) over two or three months, which is well within reason for a decent (non-cEDH) deck. Because Land Equilibrium was 40 bucks, but the Mana Breach, Bottomless Pit, Sunken Hope, and Warped Devotion that go with it for some epic salt mining were all pennies.

And I understand, everybody's going to have different cutoffs where a card CAN be worth it despite being a big chunk of the deck's value, or even worth it at all. I'd really love to play Chains of Mephistopheles but I can't personally justify dropping north of 300 bucks on it (or similarly priced dream cards The Abyss and Nether Void). All the same, if you cutoff makes 8 bucks intolerable?

>>54657468
>reconsider your life choices
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Its bad because it's boring.
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>>54656989
>mfw its 4 Eurodollar
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>>54657462
>a Black Lotus out of a pack of Zendikar
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>>54657775
He's not lying. The initial release of Zendikar packs had P9 and other reserved cards in them at a super low frequency. They were called Treasures or something. It wasn't a break of the rules list b/c these were cards printed back in the 90's that WotC had in stock. They weren't newly printed with the rest of the set.
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>>54657805
Didn't know about that, kinda neat. Also probably why they decided to get the masterpiece stuff going with BFZ.
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>>54657775
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Zendikar/Priceless_Treasures
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>>54657775
>>54657805
There was also something with black lotus deckboxes + sleeves that had a low chance of containig the actual card. It was around Time Spiral/Lorwyn.
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>>54654740
>playing pirate tribal instead of pirate theme
its like you dont even edh
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-man-the-myth-the-legend-1/
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>>54657125
Just because I hate you and my Playgroup I'll play Boros Tax and MLD
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>>54646766

>Wizards making more cards that affect the board from the command zone

This shit is really butters my biscuits.
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>>54659908
Literally Vanguard.
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