Do you think a planetary defense force could repel a xenomorph

>>54547044
No, they only exist to fall and have the space marines/imperial guard/sisters of battle/whatever called in to save the planet.

>>54547044
I don't think the PDF is the best group to deal with xenomorphs, nor do I think that Space Marines are particularly well equipped to deal with xenomorphs

Some sort of inquisition task force would likely be effective at wiping out the infestation, as xenomorphs tend to rely on stealth

Their natural ability to squeeze into tight spaces and hide effectively as well as their quickness (relative to baseline humans) would make them hard to combat on a large scale if only because they probably wouldn't take any sort of straight-on battle

>>54547220
The strength of xenomorphs is also pretty hard to determine easily. Someone seeing a xenomorph or two throughout the hive could mean that there really are just a couple, or there could be hundreds and there's really no way of telling until they invade en masse

Xenomorphs are also shown to be very intelligent and adaptable. That means if they come across a threat to their hive/continued existence they can determine a appropriate response quickly and apply it hive-wide due to their hive mind

Honestly I think they would be better at planetary infiltration than genestealers if only because they are able to mask the extent of their infestation so easily

>>54547044

The soldiers that get wrecked in every Alien movie are above PDF level. They are like at least regular guardsman level, well above conscript and PDF. Colonial Marines aren't just random faggot militia, they're Marines.

>>54547256
I say that xenomorphs are better than genestealers at infiltration mostly due to the fact that the defensive forces can identify the stage of genestealer infestation pretty much by looking at the infected and nothing else, as they become more and more xeno-like as the stages progress, whereas with Xenomorphs, it's a bit harder to determine

Maybe I'm not giving the genestealers' more advanced ability to coordinate and organize enough credit, but even with that in mind I still think that xenomorphs would be better suited to toppling hive worlds than genestealers

>>54547285
Aren't they part of a larger organization that is called the Militia though?

>>54547328
Ah wait, no they aren't

Nevermind

>>54547307

Honestly, Xenomorphs are really kind of fucking terrifying. In the first two movies, their best combat strategy against them was basically exterminatus, and it didn't even work that well because they just infested their escape vessels.

>>54547044
>could
sure, It's not likely tho.
If i had to put money on it I'd say they do about as well as the colonial marines in the films.
that is to say they hold out for a bit before getting swamped.

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Xenomorphs a shit a pack of grizzly bears with acid blood would be scarier.

A Hive city is basically the worst fucking place in any universe to have to fight Xenomorphs. There are about ten skizillion people who could go missing from the lower levels before anyone in authority noticed anything was wrong, and there are so many places for them to set up a nest that if you do find it it'll be due to sheer blind luck.

I think the Aliens would be wiped out before the authorities noticed them Underhive gangs have more firepower & greater numbers than the colonial marines.

>>54547044
Xenos vs tyranids
Would be a hell of a fight

>>54547449
Their ability to extend their own infestation is probably the most terrifying thing about them

With a lot of infestation-style horrors, its as simple as "find the big one and plant explosives on it", but with xenomorphs, i'm pretty sure any one can potentially become a queen and thus extend the life of the hive if necessary

And only one queen can birth hundreds of xenomorphs, maybe more

>>54547670
Well, in open warfare it would be no contest, the Tyranids would win

They just have too many numbers and can replace those numbers way too easily

>>54547709
Now xenomorphs v genestealers would be interesting

Basically either a race to overwhelm the hive world first or a game of subterfuge and counter-subterfuge with the genestealers trying to use the planetary defenses to uproot the xenomorphs without giving themselves away

You could write a novel about it

>>54547709
Nah that's just not fair,everyone knows the tyranids would steamroll everything else with a full on invasion.
I'm talking about 1v1 or a medium Xeno hive vs feral pack of tyranids
I'd say xenos would have slight advantage thanks to acid blood

>>54547784
Well if its a feral pack of tyranids, then xenomorphs' higher intelligence would give them a clear advantage with the ability to manipulate their environment to their advantage and coordinate their numbers

tyranids without the hivemind to lead them just devolve into highly aggressive animals, whereas xenomorphs are shown to often be far more clever than they appear

>>54547815
Without a Queen the Xenos aren't much more intelligent than animals. Smart animals with very strong ambush predator instincts, but still animals.

They still probably win that fight since 'Nids seem to get the shorter end of the IQ stick when cut off from their central brain, and the worst outcome for a Xeno in melee is a mutual kill/incap because of the acid.

>>54547678

In the Xenomorphs' case, the big one is exceptionally intelligent AND fucking horrifying in her own right because the Queen is more than just an egg laying sack of shit. She's strong, tough, fast as shit, and deceptively stealthy despite her size.

Also, Xenomorphs are more or less amphibious, and can infiltrate via water ducts. Imagine the water system of a hive world, and then fill it with fucking aliens. The real danger as has been said before is the sheer number of people who would go missing before anyone have a shit.

>>54547649

The issue there is that xenos fucking ghost people. Hell, they ghost experienced military personnel with motion trackers They're not going to run around screeching out in the open; they're going to pick people off one by one and scurry back to their nest where they make more aliens.

>>54547649
Those numbers and all that fire power would count for fuck all since they probably wouldn't have the organization nor the tracking skills to hunt down every single xenomorph to keep them from just continually reproducing by picking off civilians. Xenomorphs aren't mindless animals, they are clever ambush hunters that like to pick off lone targets to grow their numbers till they have overwhelming numbers. Also I've never heard of Underhive gangs fending off genestealers which aren't any scarier.

>>54547896
>The issue there is that xenos fucking ghost people.
This. THIS.

Imagine playing Metal Gear Solid, assuming you aren't a complete fuckup. Now imagine you're one of those guards and all your buddies are getting ghosted by Snake and you don't see a fucking thing. Now imagine instead of Snake it's an eight foot tall murder machine with deadly acid for blood capable of bashing through reinforced doors, and every one of your buddies it ghosts creates a new one.

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So what happens when the Zerg show up to make this a threesom?

It's basically a genestealer, so yes. Genestealer Cults can even usurp entire worlds when they play their cards right. The thing is, Genestealers infiltrate and form cults that can overthrow society from within. Xenomorphs don't 'infiltrate' shit, they just kill, consume, and make babies.

They would be a threat severe enough to call in the Death Watch probably, but it would be hard for it to ever grow to the point where it could destroy a genuine fortified imperial world. I imagine it would just be a persistent infestation problem like Orks.

>>54547950
The Zerg infect and corrupt the Xenomorphs
The Tyranids eat all of the Zerg

Tyranids come out on top due to efficiency and the powers of the Hive Mind.

>>54547976
Now let's add Slivers!

Exterminatus before it turns the planet into a nest or something, virus bomb that shit

>>54547960
If it's a normal world sure. If it's a hive world the whole planet may as well be written off for Exterminatus then and there.

Genestealers don't reproduce super fast, they're more of a slow burn with the whole infiltrating the human populace strategically. Xenomorphs reproduce retardo-fast, like by the time any off-planet resources could react the planet would be mostly Xeno.

The problem with comparing them with a Genestealer infestation is that they have fundamentally different goal. Stealers just want to set up shop and wait for a hive fleet to show up, they don't have any real drive to fuck shit up until they know a fleet is on it's way. Xenomorphs want to breed as fast as possible, which for them is really fucking fast, and the more shit they fuck up the faster they can do it.

>>54548059
How does killing humans make more Xenomorphs? I thought they had to hit someone with a face hugger.

>>54548059
Also to add: the slow-burn nature of the Genestealer cult makes them far more practical to fight, since it's a multi-generation process and creates relatively easy to identify mutants as a byproduct. All it takes is one hybrid to slip up once and suddenly you've got an Inquisition pain train on the way.

While the two might be similar in combat capacity, they're VERY different in long-term imperatives.

>>54548020
>All Slivers get +1/+1 for every Trope enchantment

>>54548092
They don't kill them, they knock them out and take them back to the hive.

It's really gonna depend on how good their customs is. Biological scanners have to be dialed in.

>>54547044
Probably, but not without casualties
Those things are dangerous

>>54547119
>No, they only exist to fall and have the space marines/imperial guard/sisters of battle/whatever called in to save the planet.
That's dumb and you should feel dumb for perpetuating that

PDF will at least have access to lasguns, which have about as much oomph to them as a 50 cal IIRC

Xenomorphs have been killed with less

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>>54548020
>>54547976
>>54547950
sup

>>54548157
Killing them isn't the problem, they're never going to offer open battle unless they've got an overwhelming advantage and unlike a Genestealer cult you've got an incredibly small window to identify the problem before it becomes too big for anything short of Deathwatch intervention to stop.

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>>54548162
>>54548020
>>54547976
>>54547950
>Flood show up
>Spores begin converting all dead biomass to flood cells
>every xenomorph that falls becomes flood
>every zerg that falls becomes flood
>every tyranid that falls becomes flood
>no need for facehuggers, or digestive pools, or big gobbly worms
>the dead just congeal into a big khaki colored mass then turn into the muscle, sinew, and nerves needed to become soldiers

Flood win due to superior assimilation process and adaptability.
Flood cells are basically stem cells that can change to whatever type is needed and revert when needed. So if a big mass of flood crawlers needs to turn into a titan sized battering ram or living artillery or flier, or neural relay, it can at a moments notice

That and I don't recall the zerg, tyranids, or xenomorphs being able to utilize tech

>>54548174
IDK, I feel like a guard regiment could handle it

Remember the world in Aliens was a fucking mining planet, and they only sent one fucking squad of marines to respond to the distress beacon.

A Deathwatch Kill team would be the most likely response, and they could probably handle it seeing as Aylmaos are slightly less gunfire resistant genestealers with acid blood.

>>54548198
The Tyranids also convert biomass into more Tyranids, grow their own technology, etc.

Really i'd say the flood/tyranids are equivalent.

>>54548174
>incredibly small window to identify the problem
remember its a 1:1 ratio on xenomorph reproduction, and they kill the host they use, pretty inefficient, horrifying, but inefficient.

So however many people went missing, divide that by 100 seeing as how xenomorphs tend to kill rather than capture and you have however many xenos you have to deal with.

On a planet of billions, a few thousand people go missing all at once and you quarantine the area, and you have about 100 xenomorphs to deal with. At that point you just level the city

>>54548198
>That and I don't recall the zerg[...] being able to utilize tech
While it's not their preferred method zerg can infest things in a way not unlike the flood and these infested individuals retain some degree of their memories and skills including knowing how to use equipment they were wearing, though they don't do it as quickly or efficiently as flood.

>>54548218
>grow their own technology
Flood do this as well, but it is better to just use what is already there in most cases.
That and they learn of new tech by assimilating the memories of those they assimilate, then can build bio structures that mimic that tech

Which is why its a good idea to incinerate people before they are captured when dealing with flood, but only the ones with top secret knowledge.

>Flood/tyranid equivalent
They are pretty well matched
We don't even know what is driving the nids though

>>54547220
While I'm a xenomorph fan they don't stand much of a chance.

They are ambush predators but space Marine senses would be just as good, if not better than theirs. That's before you give then wall penetrating auspex and their other toys. Also SM are not just hulking brutes, they are fast with insane reaction times and constantly on guard. Then their insane healing and armor would play a big factor in surviving the crucial first second. So an alien would have to somehow sneak up on a SM and manage to perform a sneak attack that kills them on the first shot.

We have seen humans and predators take on aliens and have decent chances of winning. Ripley was a level 1 civilian for fuck sake and she took down an alien queen in cqc with an open cabin forklift.


Now if you gave aliens the intelligence to use technology and tactics it might be able to take down a marine.

>>54548198
Flood can't even infect humans with nerve conditions. Their entire premise is based on all life having similar genetics, and Tyranids and Xenomorphs both probably couldn't get infected in the first place, Xenos because they're silicon based life forms and Tyranids because their central nervous system is so utterly different they'd likely not even be compatible, like a square peg and round hole.

Now if they already had enough biomass to have a Gravemind and post-Infection forms they'd probably be on par with Nids because Gravemind goes full jump the shark then jump it again while blasting metal and doing cocaine thanks to writers having to make it a threat to a race more advanced than Necrons, but even then they wouldn't get any valuable resources out of Xenos but silicon and acid, (both I'm sure could be repurposed, though less efficiently than normal meat) since Flood are essentially Calcium based life forms IIRC.

Who the fuck knows what Nids are made out of though. For all we know it's anything from 100% carbon nanotubes to hard sugar and delicious candy center.

>>54547285

In some spin-off media like the comics, even soldiers who don't fall into the horror-movie tropes and actually make good calls and correct plays still job hard against xenomorphs.

A Hive with a xenomorph infestation is in for a hell of a fight, and is probably fucked. Genestealers are similar, but only if it's purestrains sans cultists and larger biomorphs, and it seems like only Terminators stand a fair chance against them when fighting in the close quarters of a Hive/Space Hulk/Ship.

>>54548281
>Flood can't even infect humans with nerve conditions.
Infection forms cannot sync the nervous system if its all deranged no

Infection forms work by skipping the whole "killing" bit and hijacking a still alive animal.

Sgt. Johnson's brain and memories are safe from the flood due to his condition, but if he is killed his body can still be converted to biomass.

Infection forms might not work on xenomorphs, zerg, or nids, but they can still be killed and turned into flood matter.

However there is no guarantee that infection forms wouldn't work just fine on zerg or nids seeing as how they are remotely controlled anyway by the hive tyrants, so it might actually be quicker and easier for infection forms to link them up with the gravemind seeing as there is already a broadcasting network in place for them to hijack rather than having to build one out of repurposed nerve cells.

>who the fuck knows what nids are made out of
I would assume the phrase "you are what you eat" applies here. Seeing as they eat planets and shit out nids, the nids would have to be composed of whatever was used to make them. Carbon nanotubes might be a thing, but consider that lasrifles tear through gaunts like tissue paper so they are at least made out of meat

the HERO OF THE IMPERIUM cut up a bunch with a chainsword, so they are probably made out of protein chains

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>>54548281
>hard sugar and delicious candy center.
YA HEAR DAT BOYZ! DEM CRAWLIES IS MADE OF CANDY! KRAK DEM OPEN AND EAT DEM!

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>>54548092
They kill you if you're a big enough threat, elsewise its straight to the incubation chamber for you. A xenomorph's first wave is typically made up of drones that are sent out to collect the fresh meat, if said meat puts up enough of a fight then the a few warriors are added to the mix to take out whatever the drones can't get at in time, combining the stealth and smarts of drones with the brute strength, durability, and in your face aggression of the warrior. Continue to fight them off there and the queen will decide to just go "fuck it" and drown your ass in warriors to kill you so she can be done with it. Assuming you're in a hive, the final threat you have to deal with before the queen herself gets involved would be her praetorian guard, the cream of the crop who will absolutely murder your shit without hesitation. Unless we take into account yautja spawned demos, praetorians are bigger, stronger, sturdier, smarter, faster, and waaaay fucking meaner than the previous castes. If these guys get involved then you should consider yourself lucky, not because you'll survive mind you; but because when they get involved they don't take hosts, they just kill you outright. If the queen gets involve there's a slim chance she *might* keep you alive to use as a host, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Tl;dr it depends on the caste and how much of a threat you are.

>>54548157
>Lasguns
Honestly, I don't know how effective lasguns would be because according to Alien 3, they can survive a bath in molten lead.

>>54548225
>tend to kill
Not really. They only seem to kill on the defensive. There was no hive in Alien, so it just murdered everything. In Aliens, they captured more people than they killed. In Alien 3, it was in full murder mode to protect the queen embryo, and in Resurrection, they were in murder mode because they were essentially defending an artificial hive.

>>54548278
Marines could fight them for sure, but it still won't be an easy fight. The morphs won't throw themselves at the Marines in droves. They'll likely set up ambushes, swarm them, and let the acid do its job. Marines also use bolters, whose shells will cause the aliens to explode and fucking ruin everything around them. It's not like a pulse rifle where it makes a few holes. That shit is going to be everywhere. Speaking of, aliens also walk crawl, and if they pounce from above and get boltered, anything below it is in for a bad day, especially if there are more aliens.

>>54548452
that's a good point, Aliens have also been shown to use their acid blood intentionally, so its possible they could melt through a space marine's armor

I'm not sure of the ability of ceramite to stand up to hydrocholric acid, but i'm sure with enough of it eventually it will get through

I mean it did melt through a spaceship's hull, right?

>>54548452
>I don't know how effective lasguns would be because according to Alien 3

Colonial Marines shoot them up with machine guns. Pulse Rifles are firing normal old bullets

Lasguns, in fluff, range in potency from "bullet" to "blows limbs off". And in TT terms autoguns and lasguns are identical, damage wise.

Therefore, Aliens can be killed by Lasguns

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>>54548370
Can't really say I can see the flood making biomass out of a silicone based acid blooded life form. Would be pretty counter intuitive to introduce something that corrodes everything from paper to the hull of a spacecraft to a pile of meat and bone me thinks. The flood gravemind would probably take one look at xenos and go "we'll just come back to that later." before killing everything around them like a kid eating around the vegetables in a pot pie. Eventually they'd kill them yeah, but only after everything else has been dealt with so as to deny the xenos a chance to replenish their numbers.

>>54548439
Do xenomorphs need to eat?

>>54548510
No, that's the interesting part of them. They absorb electricity. They're essentially, living batteries (hence the acidic blood)

That's why they built their nest around the colonies nuclear reactor. They're absorbing the heat and energy from it.

>>54548508
>>54548508
>The flood gravemind would probably take one look at xenos and go "we'll just come back to that later." before killing everything around them like a kid eating around the vegetables in a pot pie
These analogies are giving me a steady stream of sensible chuckles

>>54548537
>They're essentially, living batteries (hence the acidic blood)
See, I actually really like that. I kind of considered that possibility at some point and now I feel like I deserve a cookie for thinking of it.
Excuse me

What a nice thread

>>54548473
Yes, but not only that, it basically went from top to bottom. That shit is nasty. If it were one or two, they might be fine, but after several just explode on top of them, I doubt power armor would be much use. Terminators with their force fields would fare much better. However at that point, there's a very real possibility the aliens would lure them somewhere and leave them stranded because they lack mobility.

>>54548505

The difference is the bullet is physically penetrating their exoskeleton whereas the lasgun is applying focussed energy. Molten lead is at least 375C, which they can survive and shake off apparently, otherwise, you might run into the same problem as bolters where you're just blowing off chunks of alien and getting acid everywhere.

Again, the real issue here is that if you're at a point where you're fighting large numbers of aliens, you've got a. Much bigger problem to worry about and you might as well bomb the planet.

>>54548452
>they can survive a bath in molten lead
Lead actually has a relatively low melting point of 621.5°F/327.5°C and if I recall correctly it wasn't in there that long. Now that's still a some what impressive thing to survive but not crazy over the top.

>>54548473
>I'm not sure of the ability of ceramite to stand up to hydrocholric acid, but i'm sure with enough of it eventually it will get through

Advanced Ceramics, like say ceramite, are one the most acid resistant out there.

http://global.kyocera.com/fcworld/charact/chemistry/chemiresist.html

>>54548508
>Can't really say I can see the flood making biomass out of a silicone based acid blooded life form. Would be pretty counter intuitive to introduce something that corrodes everything from paper to the hull of a spacecraft to a pile of meat and bone me thinks.
Yeah, due to the nature of flood cells, best way to deal with them is to either pulp the cells with blunt force trauma, burn with fire, or melt with acid.

Xenomorphs have the whole acid bit.
usually if a flood form is "killed" it means you disrupted the "body" enough to disable it and now they have to re-align themselves before getting right back up and trying to kill you.
However if you burn them, or otherwise destroy the majority of cells, you're golden.
So a xenomorph getting ripped apart by a flood form is going to kill said flood form permanently, or rather remove a small amount of biomass from the combined flood organism.

Also severing a flood form from the gravemind will cause it to go berserk and mindlessly attack anything not made out of flood matter within sensory range.

So Xenos might be off the menu simply due to the acidity of their blood until the gravemind dedicates biomass to synthesizing a large critter that spews base goop on the corpse to counteract the acid

>>54548573
Well the thing about stranding terminators is that a lot of those guys have teleporters, right?

Plus i'm sure they are content just wrecking their way out of any Hive backalley

Things like melta-weapons are probably the most effective against them as they have the ability to pierce their exoskeletons without giving the chance for blood to get everywhere

Or maybe flamers, like how flamethrowers were used to decent effect in the first movie

>>54548596
Well then I can't see Xenomorphs doing very well in any sort of combat against space marines or otherwise ceramite armored foes without some serious trickery

Honestly they could probably just collapse the Hive world down around whatever task force goes after them with their extremely high proliferation rate

>>54548573
>Yes, but not only that, it basically went from top to bottom. That shit is nasty
And that was just a small spurt from a facehugger. Just imagine what bleeding a fully grown xeno would do to a ship in space. I mean I know that it was done in Alien ressurection, but since those xenos had a higher human DNA mix to them I can't say for certain of their blood was diluted at all, even >>54548583
if it did melt through multiple levels of the fuckhuge ship they were on.

>>54548641
>>54548573
Question, could we not just dump a bunch of bleach on the xenos blood to dilute the acid?

>>54548641
It's also possible the opposite is true and facehugger acid is more potent.

>>54548648
I mean, in theory, yes

But that implies that you have a fuck ton of bleach to throw at them

Maybe if the Xenomorphs made their nest inside a hive world factory that mass produces bleach, there might be enough on hand

>>54548573
Fluff suggests Lasguns apply kinetic force, likely through cavitation/impact transference of energy (though I stick by my headcannon that lasguns aren't lasers at all, but rather a form of particle packet accelerator, which explains all of it's characteristics, visual phenomena and the fact they work well in an atmosphere)

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>>54548583
They can also survive the vacuum of space, and being frozen to god knows how long. If we take into account the games then pic related survived multiple dips for several seconds in magma with no apparent injury. Xenos can survive some pretty bullshit stuff, my dude.

>>54548667
>But that implies that you have a fuck ton of bleach
I visit /b/ on occasion

>>54548677
Congrats. You can take out a Queen Mother hive or two. Unfortunately you still have to live with the knowledge that you visit /b/ in 2017.

>>54548648
To balance out the PH levels and complete neutralize the acid it would take fucktons of bleach or a stronger base since it's so acidic. Probably the closest thing to xenomorph blood in real life that we know if is fluoroantimonic acid which has a PH of -31 and change. And even that doesn't melt through things as quickly as the blood in the movies.

>>54547307
>as they become more and more xeno-like as the stages progress
Isn't it the opposite actually ?

>>54548648
Nothing doing. Bleach lacks the proper amount of bas(iciness? idity? What the fuck is the proper term here?) to counteract such a potent acid. You would need something really fucking basic and in a massive quantity to get it to work. Plus there's the issue of actually,putting it into effect. I mean it's fine if you're just counteracting blood splatters, but just spraying a xeno with the stuff is probably just going to end with you getting ripped up by a base covered xenomorph.

>>54548706
IIRC some company in an Aliens comic developed a synthetic Base that neutralized their blood so they could actually do proper autopsies. I don't think the writers understood that a Base that strong would be just as deadly to humans though because IIRC they shoot a tank of it and it splashes all over a xeno and a person they're grappling, so they can shoot the xeno without coating the person in acid.

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>>54548724
By the fifth generation, basically new genestealers are being produced instead of human-genestealer hybrids

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>>54547044
This is a great thread.

Thank you OP for making such a great thread.

Thank you everyone else for posting in this thread.

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>>54548198
The Flood then loses to the Bydo.

>>54547044
They would have to be fully aware of the extent of the threat and have appropriate counter gear. I'd give it to the xenos otherwise.

>>54547950
>>54547976
What if the zerg got huggered? Imagine a Xeno Ultralisk

>>54548758
It's in one of the omnibus, "Rogue" I think. I know that in genocide that neopharm (the xenozip producers) also develops a suit that more or less "heals" when acid splashes it by producing a neutralizing agent and covering the hole in plastic or some equally goofy shit. Pretty damned stupid really, but I love it all the same.

>>54547044
What happens is a Xenomorph infects a genestealer cultist or vise versa?

>>54548903
Xenomorphs reproduce by copying the genetics of their host animal then consuming them

Genestealers reproduce by ALTERING the genetics of their host animal

So a Xenostealer is fast, black, armored, multi armed, terrifying, has acid for blood, basically an alien turned up to 11.

A Genemorph on the other hand... well thats difficult to say. Unless it's a queen organism it can't breed. And the xenomorph hive mind may detect another hive mind intruding on it's own, making them useless as infiltrators

If they did get a queen though, you suddenly have a VERY rapidly breeding hive of genestealers that outstrips anything seen before

>>54548436
>the collective belief of trillions of orks turns the nids into candy

>>54548937
I'm a bit slow, is the xenostealer the primarily xenomorph creature or is the genemorph?

>>54548938
Dude, ok, What if, but dude

What if the UNIVERSE only exists because the Orks believe it does

Chaos only exists because the Orks believe it does

Humans only exist because the Orks believe they do

Everything that is, is only the solipsistic shared dream of the Orks?

WHAT IF THE ONLY REASON THE ORKS CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH BELIEVE IS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SHAPE REALITY WITH THEIR BELIEF

>>54548816
That pic. I love it. Thank you.

>>54548961
The Xenostealer is a xenomorph that has infected and grown out of a Genestealer

The Genemorph is a genestealer infected Xenomorph

>>54548972
So what would happen if the Xenomorphs showed up on an ork planet?

>>54548982
Xenomork

>>54549005
Would it be part of the xenomorph hive mind or would it be over come by that taste WAAAGH! energy and just become a funny looking ork?

>>54548982
The Orks have a good old time either way

Pretty much a never ending stalemate clusterfuck though

It should be noted that Ork-Genestealer hybrids DO exist, but only among smaller feral ork populations as Orks can instinctively detect alien corruption among them

>>54549018
Yes

>>54548964
YOU'RE GOING IN TOO DEEP ANON! YOU'RE GOING IN TOO DEEP!
>>54548982
The orkz have a lot of fun fighting the new enemy that refuses to run away and may or may not kill you upon its own death. This continues until they notice a lot of boyz aren't coming back to camp and that the xenos are starting to get a lot bigger and greener than they remember. A horrifying thought occurs- what if they get the reality warping powers that orkz posses? I mean a drone probably can't do jack shit with it, but a queen is a lot smarter and can hijack the brain of every xeno she spawns. Could...could they believe everything implanted with her spawn?

>>54549043
>queen starts painting her drones green to make them tougher

>>54548763
But they go backwards until then.

Originally, how it worked was that a purestrain genestealer infects someone and they give birth to a hybrid, then that hybrid infects a new person and they give birth to a more humanoid hybrid, and so on. This goes on until the fourth-generation hybrids, who are almost entirely humanoid in form, and mate with each other like humans to give birth to more purestrain genestealers.

>>54549056
>purple painted xenomorphs stand in the middle of open crowds undetected

>>54549060
But when do they start birthing mining equipment?

>>54548841
I'd say they're just about equally bullshit. The Flood can infect the laws of physics and the Bydo can infect people who think about them too hard.

>>54549056
I'm imagining a queen just picking up her brood one by one with her main arms and using her little secondary arms to delicately paint them with a myriad of brushes to get a good even coat with the same level of dedication that we do our minis. The idea of her wearing glasses and leaning in close while hissing at them to hold still as she works brings unimaginable amounts of joy to me. If there's a draw friend here that can bring this vision to life then I would be forever grateful.

>>54549072
When they find Cybertron.

>>54549118
Xenomorphs don't have eyes or ears. Where would she put the glasses? Would she put them on her little tongue-mouth for a closer look?

>>54549056
Would the xenomorphs start developing mekmorphs, imagine the result.

>>54547950
Zerg win due to this not even being their final form.

>>54549133
They can still see, I'm just imagining her wearing the kind of glasses a watchmaker wpuld wear because of how anal retentive she is about detail. her secondary jaws are used to add tiny details with a fine brush or to punch through the head of every drone she fucks up the paint job of

What would a xenomorph grown inside a space marine look like?

>>54548757
>You would need something really fucking basic

As long as you're here with us then, anon, we should be fine.

>>54547976
what is the difference between zerg and tyrannids seriously?

>>54552283

Zerg replicate somewhat faster and are much much more prone to fragmentation of their hive mind, having been swept by outright rebellions before.

>>54547976
Add Necromorphs.

>>54552317
i mean conceptually not technically.
seems to me it's just blatant stealing and nerfing down for balance purposes.

>>54552371

Duh

>>54551980
>pulse rifles are bolters
nah son, they're mostly very advanced autoguns

>>54552197
Well played motherfucker. Well played.

>>54552485
I think he was drawing that conclusion due to the fact the pulse rifles fire caseless HE ammunition. Which is also how bolters have been commonly described and depicted. Obviously though there is a large difference in caliber between the two.

>>54549207
That took a turn I was not expecting

Any good Aliens books? I wanna read some fluff now.

>>54552573
Bolters arent caseless tho

>>54552580
The movie novelizations are all good i think

>>54552573
So they are essentially smaller human sized boltguns, since Astartes bolt guns are all too big for any normal human to even pick up easily.

>>54552586
True though this is another case of inconsistency in 40k. There was materiel published where the bolters ammunition was described as caseless gyrojet style ammo, clearly the author(s) must have forgotten that bolters have generally been depicted ejecting cases. At some point this was resolved by stating they are gyrojet but contained in a case with a charge so they are still effective at short range.

>>54548982
Chestboyzters

>>54552283
Zerg assimilate and infest species much more often and can mutate into new strains as the situation requires right there on the battlefield. Also conquer worlds instead just nomming them. A lot more personalities involved in managing the swarm which can cause infighting without an over mind or strong queen to lead. More interesting as a result.

>>54552576
>he's never seen someone get upset over messing up the paint job on a mini
You live a charmed life my friend. I'm pretty sure the only thing stopping people at my FLGS from destroying their minis in an autistic rage is the fact that said minis cost money and can't just be replaced by snatching another living body to birth a new one. I'd say that the lack of outright hostility that xenos harbor is also a separating factor, but I'm pretty sure I'd be lying if I did.

>>54548278
She had Mum-mania though, that's a hefty buff to her rolls.

>>54552780
I've never painted a mini, as I don't have any aside from the ones in my Imperial Assault box, and I can't find anyone who wants to play

Tyranids don't just LOOK like Xenomorphs. However, Tyranids have access to pseudo-psyker bullshit, can interfere with actual psyker bullshit, have a variety of sentient "leader" characters, and have ranged weapons and can use a variety of tactics, including subverting local populations with genestealers. Plus, they can consume *any* organic matter to make more soldiers.

I'm not going to say "Sure, the average PDF could pull it off," but it would be much more plausible than fending off a Tyranid attack. Unless there's some kind of Weyland-Yutani analog trying to undermine the PDF's efforts so they can repeatedly botch scientific studies of the bugs, or make drugs out of their queens.

>>54548982
You know what? I think some orks could totally get over having a chestburster pop out of them. A nob might not even need to see the Dokboyz about it.

How big does a Xenomorph that burst from the chest of an ork grow to be, though? Do they gain the ork's ability to just keep growing and growing over time?

Alternately this: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Story:The_Shape_Of_The_Nightmare_To_Come_50k_section10

Are including the stuff from AvP: Extinction? Because if so then the Aliens become a more threatening. They now have:
-The Ravager: A heavy siege Alien, the Ravager has bladed limbs that can tear through starship hulls. Unlike other aliens, the Ravager kills its prey outright.
-The Carrier: The Carrier spreads the Alien infestation to outlying regions by serving as a Facehugger transport. While riding a Carrier, Facehuggers do not expend energy, enabling them to reach farther areas than their limited energy supply would otherwise allow. In combat, the Carrier is an extraordinarily dangerous enemy, since its cargo does not hesitate to leap on nearby targets when threatened.

>>54547044
How would the xenomorphs deal with a few tanks attacking their hive? Air power? Long range artillery? Anything but a dude with a gun?

>>54553809
Pop a drone on it and the acid eats through the tank

In the expanded material there are strains that are much larger, like Pretorians

>>54552080
You'd probably get a praetorian at the very least.

>>54547044
Well they're basically like a worse genestealer cult, so probably OK in all honesty.

>>54552573
>HE ammunition
No, it doesn't.

>>54547220
Well salamanders are great for killing xenomorths.

Also anyone who can kill genestealers can easily deal with xenomorths - as genestealers are smarter and stronger version of the bugs

>>54548964
So orks are Yog-Setoth?

I could get behind that idea

>>54554706
Specifically what they fire is 10mm explosive tipped caseless, they aren't high explosive but they do have an explosive component.

>>54554820
Yeah, I looked it up and you're right there. Probably the best ammo type for what they ended up fighting, honestly. Still not on par with a bolter shell, mind you.

>>54547307
genestealers infiltrate the political elite of the planet they aren't even slightly comparable,

there have been shape shifting mind controling xeno that lay eggs in your soul. Xenomorph are 2/5 threat max

Xenomorphs are generally tougher and stronger than the host species it was born from. My question is what would a xenomorph born from a space marine look like? What traits would the xenomorph inherit from from Orks, Tau, and the rest?

>>54553518
Well Orks can survive head transplants so it's possible.

>>54554869

Bolters are likely terrible for fighting them because the carnage would get blood everywhere. Like, if you shoot a xenmorph with a bolter, say goodbye to everything around it. Pulse rifles are enough to kill them without the excessive gore.

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>>54547044
>>54548225
Gotta remember this is the Imperium we're talking about, thousands of people probably die or otherwise go missing everyday on the average Hive World. Their layouts are nightmarishly labyrinthine at best and even if somebody did notice, inform the local authorities, and they organised a timely response to investigate that wasn't immediately slaughtered because they'd have no idea what they're getting into. They would never be able to find a hive itself located in the depths until it was far to late and no planetary governor is his right mind would destroy an entire hive city just to remove an 'infestation'. After that point it'd already be to late and you'd need the involvement of outside forces to prevent the entire planet from falling. Less built up worlds would stand a better chance of not being overwhelmed because they could both respond more quickly and bring proper military force to bear.

>>54553809
The same way they always have; stealth, planning, and drowning the opponent with a mindfuckingly large number of bodies. They tend to favor the imperium in that last regard, albeit with the added bonus of having units that don't need to be threatened with death by a superior to preform a task. Let's not forget that in the expanded universe these bastards took earth and several colonies from us in a matter of weeks. Earthborne humans were literally forced to life on ships and space stations and not allowed to enter any colonized planets for fear of further infestation. Seriously, xenomorphs are basically satan's answer to bed bug evolution.

>>54548505
Marine pulse rifles are firing 10mm armor piercing, explosive tipped caseless rounds. So not quite "Normal" bullets, no.

>>54547670

Well...until the Tyranids evolve to have no orifices.

This means the xenomorphs have no way of reproducing and die out.

Which leads to the tyranids dying out from starvation.

And then the lone squad of PDF stumble out of a well-hidden bunker in the far-off wastes of the planet, drunk as skunks and reeking of piss, and declare victory.

>>54553518
>>54555652
>xeno queen realizes that the orkz hosts have survived birthing
>continually impregnates them until they can't tolerate it any more to bolster the hive with larger and meaner drones and warriors
>massive green tide of green chitin, claws, fangs, and acid blood that is stronger than the host species crops up in mere days
Fuuuuuuck. I thought predaliens were bad.

>>54547044
Xenomorphs reproduction lets them down massively, it also depends entirely on how many xenos there are? How spread out are they? Do they have a queen or is it the older way where they turn people into eggs? How many humans are on the planet?

>Honestly I think they would be better at planetary infiltration than genestealers if only because they are able to mask the extent of their infestation so easily

How? Genestealers literally ARE the population, and the infected view the purestrains as family and raise no suspicion. Your neighbour who waves to you every morning and is out mowing the lawn? Could be a genestealer cultist, could have dozens of genestealer children and a genestealer living in his attic

Xenos are nowhere near as stealthy

>>54556314
>to the extent that the orkmorphs believe anything, they believe themselves to be unstoppable killing machines
>ergo...

>>54549005
XenoMarines?

>>54556291
>implying the facehugger won't MAKE a hole if it has to
Do remember that in the first film a hugger burned through the helmet of an EVO suit to get at its host. If it really wants you, it's going to get you.

>>54548157

>PDF will at least have access to lasguns, which have about as much oomph to them as a 50 cal IIRC

Never been sourced

And enough people have survived direct Las shots to make it unlikely.

>>54547220

>
Their natural ability to squeeze into tight spaces and hide effectively as well as their quickness (relative to baseline humans) would make them hard to combat on a large scale if only because they probably wouldn't take any sort of straight-on battle

How can you make this statement when in Aliens untold dozens of them died trying to run headfirst through a narrow corridor at some automated turrets?

>>54556291
>Facehugger latches onto a gaunt
>Tyranid Phage cells attack the implanted egg
>800 gaunts notice 12 other gaunts have been facehugged
>They rip apart their facehugged brothers
>Fire a sun blocking volley of bone shards and borer beetles at the xenos

GG

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>>54556332
>yfw everyone thought chaos was the biggest current threat in the galaxy
>yfw it turns out to be xenomorkz
>yfw everyone in the galaxy bands together, even the fucking nids, necron, and deldar to try and get a handle on this shit
>even the goddamn chaos gods have set their shit aside to chip in
>yfw the xenomorph's single minded devotion to spreading the hive coupled with their lack of fear and newly acquired reality warp bullshit makes them near impossible to put down
>yfw in the end, in some perverse way the orkz get their wish of green skinz dominating throughout the galaxy

>>54556382
Because they were testing the defenses? They found a way in anyway after they cut the power. Given how intelligent queens are and how many units this one had to work with, I have no doubt in my mind that she'd understand that those guns couldn't fire forever, and even if they could she had more than enough loyal soldiers to throw at them until they were brought down. Again, drowning it in numbers is one of the last tactics used if stealth can't be used.

>>54556482

Sure, but "drown it in numbers" is also an example of a straight on battle, which you said they wouldn't do.

>>54556482
To kill a dozen marines, the xenos had to expend what... 4? 5 dozen? They took like maybe 2 guys alive? so they're definitely in the red when it comes to fighting to armed men

>>54547044
Do you think they could handle Genestealers? No? Well there's your answer, sport.

Really it depends on the quality of the PDF, but most of the time you can only expect them to hold out against cultists or perhaps rebellions, and you can expect them to have Arbites help with that (the Arbites aren't numerous, but have a lot better equipment and training). They can't last long against a dedicated invasion force, like Tyranids, a Chaos invasion, or Orks - unless you're on a planet like Cadia or Armageddon that's expecting attacks in the future with PDF trained to the level of guardsmen.

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>>54547649
You forget that most Underhivers really only have autoguns and aren't going to be expecting an alien invasion and will be fighting among each other. Some might not even really recognize the threat for what it is and think it's something they can deal with after it weakens their enemies.

>>54547866
Without a queen in direct contact, they were able to recognize their acidic blood can eat through metal like its a fatguy on donuts and escaped containment.

>>54556523
I'm a different anon, specially the one who's been saying that a queen will happily drown someone in numbers if she has enough of them. Just wanted to chime in on the turret thing.
>>54556575
Acceptable losses if she still has eggs. Queens couldn't care less about losing some of their troops, it's the eggs they want to protect. That being said, if they can infect even a single space marine, that's a potent new ally on the queen's side. Bear in mind that xenomorph's are ALWAYS physically superior to their hosts.

>>54556781
>specially
Fuck this autocorrect. I meant to say specifically.

>>54548596
just so you know, we have acids so potent that they eat through those ceramics in a matter of a few minutes. xenomorph blood is WAAAAAYYYYY stronger than that. on the ph scale, it would likely go well into the tens or hundreds of negatives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoroantimonic_acid
this shit eats ANYthing it comes into contact with and it sits at a -31 ph. xeno blood is both stronger and eats the same shit in a fraction of the time.

>>54556781
>Acceptable losses if she still has eggs
So they will expend 50 xenomorphs to birth 3 xenomorphs? Seems like they would die from attrition fast

>>54556946
no, not 3, she lays facehugger eggs. hundreds to thousands depending on the situation. then the next drone goes and becomes a queen anyways to continue the process.

>>54556946
Three über strong morphs that will bring in god knows how many hosts. Again, if these guys are established on a hive world there's likely hundred, maybe even thousands more where that came from. Fifty troops is an acceptable loss.

>>54547642
>>54547649

God i wish this was a game or a novel, bunch of thieves murderers and rapists in a large constructed city being overrun and having to coordinate with rival factions.

>>54556997
Yeah... and you need hosts to spawn xenos, so killing off more drones than you can bring back hosts will eventually end up in loss

>>54556997
>>54557004
Did you guys watch Aliens? They beat some no name colonists and lost a couple, once the marines dropped in, the KD ratio was huge

>>54556357
Heavy stubbers are .50 cal aren't they? Doesn't seem to faze a lot of xenos.

EDF! EDF!

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>>54547044
Well, let's examine this in comparison with the closest 40k analogue - Genestealers.

Genestealer advantages
>Victims infiltrate society after infection, preventing missing persons from drawing attention.
>Psychic abilities of the higher Genestealer/hybrid forms provide a downright ridiculous amount of killing power against unprotected units.
>Genestealers are smarter and more durable than facehuggers, meaning that if found they have a better chance of fending for themselves.
>Hybrids are capable of using technology, presenting more tactical options to the cult.
>Genestealers don't have an inherent weakness to the Imperium's fire fetish.

Xenomorph advantages
>Most Xenomorphs are more agile than genestealers, allowing them to bypass defenses and generally be a nuisance.
>Variety of xenomorph castes presents a tactical nightmare for anyone planning to defend against them.
>Facehuggers are a tiny, fast target, making them hard to find and hard to hit.
>Xenomorphs, in general, are almost as disposable as guardsman while being much more dangerous.

This is a hard one. However, I would have to say that a decently organized PDF (a la the Elysian variety) may be able to deal with it. First - Xenomorphs have an established weakness to fire. The moment the PDF figures that one out, they'll break out ALL the flamers. ALL OF THEM. Second, a Xenomorph infestation is significantly easier to discover than a genestealer infestation because the xenomorphs kill their victims. Depending, of course, upon how long THAT takes to get the authorities' attention, the PDF may be able to nip the infestation in the bud. Third, depending upon what canon you go by, a chestburster takes anywhere from minutes to days to hatch from the infected after the facehugger detaches. In the former case, then everything's fine for the phallic club. In the latter case, it's more likely some paranoid zealot will BURN THE UNCLEAN before the chestburster has a chance to make its debut.

>>54558875
Xenomorphs need a little more time to get the ball rolling compared to Genestealers. Xenomorphs can even survive the vacuum of space for a unknown time. [The ending of Alien Isolation has 3 Xenomorphs attempt to board a spaceship from the outside hatch.]

>>54559056
Damn I didn't know how to hide spoiler text sorry guys.

>>54547044
>>54558875

no you got it wrong, as far as i know xenomorphs are literary gaunt level
maybe warrior if big and mean
whole point of w40k is to be over the top

tyranids been 'alien' on steroids from beginning same way necrons are terminator on steroids

>>54559075

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>>54559075
Quick tip - if you highlight your text and use ctrl+s, it spoilers it for you! You can also press it without the highlighted text and just write inside the boxes.

>>54548691
He'll be fine. He got a 2 for 1 on alcohol with his bleach.

>>54558875
>Xenomorphs have an established weakness to fire
Fear, not weakness. Only the soft chestbursers & facehuggers are damaged by fire. An adult with a fully formed exoskeleton will freak out at first because, holy shit, bright big thing is fwooshing at you. Once they realize how little damage it causes though they'll charge straight through it and wreck shit. It's a lot like why you don't use flamethrowers on zombies- neither creature needs the oxygen that the fire eats up and the damage done over time won't stack quick enough to save you. Now instead of just an angry monster trying to bite your face off you've got an angry monster trying to bite your face off while on fire.

>>54557662
The KD ratio was actually pretty in favor of the xenomorphs. They lost what, a handful of units out of ninety or so families worth? Assuming we're dealing with nuclear families here with four members each, that's 360 xenos give or take a few. During the entire span of the movie up until the nuking of the hive nearly the entire marine squadron was wiped, save for one man that was severely injured, and an android that was irreparably damaged. The only two to come out completely unscathed were the two civilians, both of which had experience dealing with these creatures.

>>54548452
A deleted scene in Alien (director's cut best cut) shows that most of the victims were being captured and the lone drone was already setting up a hive on the Nostromo. There's a reason aliens could not under any circumstances be allowed on Earth.
They'd be unremarkable on a death world, would not work on an Agri world (especially one with knights), they'd get curbstomped by a fortress world but on a hive/forge world they could bring the planet to its knees. And then hijack any refugee ships. They would never win full-scale against the imperium, but they would be a constant thorn in its side until they form specialized anti-xenomorph tactics and squads. Waves of guardsmen to slow the growth of a budding hive and a kill team to infiltrate it and kill the queen, and then hunt down every last xeno, facehugger and egg in the hive. Handled properly it'd be no harder than dealing with a small ork infestation, and they'd probably help keep the gangs and the cults down, but I can still imagine them losing a hive every now and again due to simply not responding fast enough.

>>54560809
Then couldn't they use the flamers to scare them before using something a bit heavier to kill them? A Lasgun turned all the way up could probably do the job with focused fire, and the flamers would still hurt.

We need a clear idea of how Xenomorph biology works like. I've never read the expanded material but the movies make a piss poor job of explaining it in detail and they outright contradict each other.

>>54560962

I think C-gun gets the most kills in the movie. He's the true hero here.

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But what if the xenos develop a matris?

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>>54552080
With how Space Marines are suppose to work on a genetic level, theoretically the xenomorph that would emerge from one would just be like a normal human-bred one.

People get confused thinking that Space Marines are genetically engineered. That's not actually the case, they've been heavily augmented and modified. The easiest way to describe it is picture someone getting a bunch of cybernetic augments, then simply change them from being cybernetic to biological. Their DNA shouldn't be changed much at all.
Actually now that I think about it, since Space Marines are suppose to have a fused ribcage made out of bones harder than steel, I doubt a chestburster would even be able to emerge from one. It's probably die inside the marine (but also causing severe internal damage to him in the process).

Now, something like a Primarch would be a different matter altogether, because the Primarchs WERE genetically engineered by the Emperor. I'd imagine one from a Primarch would probably look like pic related, but bigger and just overall...worse in general. Depending on the Primarch it could sprout wings (although some variants supposedly already had them), inherit psychic powers second only to the Emperor, or even possibly become a perpetual.

But also knowing how strong Primarchs are I'd doubt they'd even die after the chestburster emerged, due to how insane their regeneration is. No matter what Vulkan would come back due to him being a perpetual.

>>54563261
Marines would be a net-negative for the Xenos then. They would get a regular soldier out of an augmented super soldier.

>>54563297
Assuming Marine biology is even susceptible to facehuggers. Depending on your source, they either work through anesthetizing or by asphyxiating their hosts. Either of these would be massively complicated by space marine biology.

>>54561249
>Handled properly it'd be no harder than dealing with a small ork infestation
I'd put it at least a touch higher than that. These guys are basically bed bugs ramped up to about 50. An ork will at least make himself known in a relatively short time span what with his desire for fights and all. A xeno on the other hand will dig in somewhere and wait months, years even for the first chance at starting a new hive. Slip up even once and you're back at it again in a few months, only this time you'll be dealing with a Queen that *knows* your tactics.

>>54563651
>Slip up even once and you're back at it again in a few months, only this time you'll be dealing with a Queen that *knows* your tactics.

The solution is clear then. Make invincible tactics.

>>54563836
Kek. Only in the imperium of man is that ever considered to be a viable strategy. For such a grim dark universe those lads sure to love to use cartoony logic.

>>54554771
Zog-zoggoff

>>54564065
IZ WUT SHOUDN'A DUN EXISTA...EXIS...ZOGGIT, ITZ DA WEIRDEST 'A DA WEIRD STUFF.

>>54548225
>1:1
What did he mean by this? There's a queen and she cranks out tons of fucking eggs with facehuggers in them. Does he mean that the facehuggers are one and done things? Is he ignoring the massive amount of eggs just lying around?

>>54564616
>Eggs
An egg alone does not a xenomorph make

It needs a host, without the host they are pretty harmless

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>>54561249
>They'd be unremarkable on a death world
This is how you know 40K is lunacy

>>54561249
>would not work on an Agri world
Why wouldn't they be remarkable on an agri world?
Aren't agri worlds mostly farmers living in middle ages style villages with high tech farm equipment gifted to them by the mechanicus so they can feed entire solar systems?

Knights yes would be an issue seeing as one human in a power loader can fight the a queen, but the farmers would be xeno food

>>54563261
>I doubt a chestburster would even be able to emerge from one.
It'd just climb out his mouth and he'd die like a moron by biting it in half or his ass.

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>>54563261
>I doubt a chestburster would even be able to emerge from one. It's probably die inside the marine
>Marine begins convulsing
"BATTLE BROTHER IS SOMETHING WRONG?"
>hits his chest a few times and burps
"ITS NOTHING BATTLE BROTHER! JUST SOME INDIGESTION I THINK!"
"INDIGESTION?! I SHALL PREPARE THE SACRED PEPTO OF BISMOL!"
"THANK YOU BATTLE BROTHER! I WAS GETTING CONCERNED FOR A MOMENT!"

>>54552699
>Chestboyzters
just spitballing here, but could an ork due to their biology give birth to more than one xenomorph?

Orks can undergo and survive limb reattachment surgery with no sanitation, anesthetic, and usually use railroad spikes as "stitches" to hold the arm on until it heals

Hell, they can undergo head transplants in the right circumstances.

I'm seeing a situation where orks intentionally impregnate themselves with facehuggers because
A-dey look roit be gud scarry bugga mask WAAAAGGGHHH
B-Orks can now get right up to enemy lines and have their "chest grots" attack their enemy for them if they die before getting into melee range

>>54552635
I always thought of them as smaller RAP rounds
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket-assisted_projectile

>>54563261

A chestburster would definitely kill a Marine from inside because it would eat its heart(s) and keep eating until it found an exit

>>54564902
>B-Orks can now get right up to enemy lines and have their "chest grots" attack their enemy for them if they die before getting into melee range
Not that it matters much if Orkz believe that they'll fully mature in a matter of seconds, but how quickly do chest bursters mature anyways?

>>54566863
Few hours IIRC.

>>54564902
>orks form a symbiotic relationship with xenos due to both of their inability to completely eradicate each other

I never knew how much I wanted this

>>54555750
>without the excessive gore.
They fucking explode as soon as they're hit

>>54566994
It must be hungrier than a tyranid during that weight gain. I always wondered how many cats that chestburster in the first movie ate to get as big as it was by the time it started hunting the crew.

>>54568473
I believe they feed off metal, so he just ate the ship's hull or something like that.

>>54564747
Well the whole point of 40k as a setting is to basically be a metal album cover, so lunacy is a given

If Colonial Marines can kill off an Alien infestation, a PDF can surely do it.

Face it. Hack Cameron ruined the Xenomorph. Aliens a SHIT.

>>54564829
This. If it can't get out the primary way a chest burster will happily take an alternate route. Oral, abdominal, whatever works really. It's just riskier since the entire goal of the chest burst is to leave the host incapable of harming the burster.