Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>54514578
Does that grapple hook actually do anything?

>>54514597
Ignore vertical distance, its fucking amazing for 2 ppm

>>54514597
you ignore vertical movement when calculating distance i think
or something along those lines

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I need a OPFOR for my Tyranid army. Which is more tastier Ultramarines or Deathwatch?

>>54514577
But its a setting

>>54513860
How many and what types?

I am doing a paint and play and we are moving on to 1500 from 1k. Here is my current list:

993

weirdboy 62

boys x30 choppas big choppa 189

stormboys x30 big choppa 249
stormboys x15 big choppa 129

gorkanaut 364

My plan was boost the small stormboy squad to 30 add a big mek on bike with KFF, add another 30 man boys squad with big choppa and a smaller squad with big choppa to fill the rest.

So at 1500:

1499

weirdboy 62
big mek on bike kff big choppa 110

boys x30 choppas big choppa 189
boys x30 choppas big choppa 189
boys x13 choppas big choppa 87

stormboys x30 big choppa 249
stormboys x30 big choppa 249

gorkanaut 364

That look like a good add on to my 1k list? It also takes me from a patrol to a battalion for 3 command points. Thinking 1 boys squad should be shootas maybe. Lets them shoot 1 unit then charge another. Means they still do something even if charge fails.

>>54514607
>>54514603
Does the <FLY> keyword let you ignore vertical distance?

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For real this time, I finished Love and Krieg. Pretty good

Does anybody here have the website of all the tourney lists that 8th have had so far? It was posted a few days ago.

>>54514644
Dont think so, only lets you do the fall back thing

OP here, before anyone asks or whatever, source for Reiver thing is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9SLtRrfgfE

Anyway, need to do some IRL stuff. Have fun guys!

>>54514560
MoM and every other ADB books spoiler:
The Emperor is shit and Chaos wins forever

>>54514629
Deathwatch for sure.

Oh great, /v/ is invading again.

>>54514656
>t. lazy netlister

>>54514642
>naut
>no nob squad

>>54514670

Fall of Cadia and Dark Imperium: Chaos can open a rift that cuts the galaxy in half an innumerable smaller rifts, gaining the ability to drop daemons all over an already beleaguered, on the brink of collapse imperium and everthing is fine.

>>54514689
No, my friend doesn't believe people did all flyer lists and he said that 'most armies and lists would beat it because objectives'.

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>>54514663
My common senses are tingling, but we are supposed to play the game RaW.
>A flying unit does in fact not have the mobillity of a man with a grappling hook.

>>54514693
>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light."
- The Emperor

>"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."
- ADB, BL Author

>imagine bothering to play as ANY faction other than Chaos

Why are you even bothering?

Why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you? Are you a bunch of cucks?

>>54514644
>>54514696
It does, FLY lets you ignore models and terrain while moving.

>>54514603
>>54514607
You get outflank as well.

Can someone help me clear up an issue I'm having with the rules. If I take a primaris Captain with my Deathwatch can he take wargear from the Deathwatch? Can he take the xenophase blade since he doesn't have a chainsword??

>>54514710
But not vertical distance

>>54514717
Pretty sure the Primaris Captain has a set inventory that can't be changed.

>>54514719
How are you getting vertical distance without terrain?

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>>54514689
I know you're being the obligatory assclown, but I too would like some concrete information to debunk "X faction is OP" and "Faction Y is garbage!" arguments.
Tournament lists are pretty good for those.
>I also want to know how the Necrons fare competitively.

>>54514719
Why when I ignore the terrain that causes the vertical distance.

>>54514642

Do you have to keep the 15 stormboyz in the list?

If not, i would try:

Weirdboy 62
Warboss (2 killsaws, squig) 93

Boyz x30 (29 choppas, 1 big choppa) 189
Boyz x30 (29 choppas, 1 big choppa) 189
Boyz x30 (29 choppas, 1 big choppa) 189

Nobz x5 (4 power stabba, 1killsaw) 125

Stormboyz x30 (1 big choppa) 249

Gorkanaut 364

And bring the 15 stormboyz + 15 more at 2k points.

>>54514578
How the fuck are you supposed to store that in any case?
Won't be safely transported in any slot foam or GWs channel foam.

>>54514736
Ignoring terrain means you don't have to move around impassible shit, it doesn't mean it takes zero movement to get to the top of a ruin.

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>>54514719
I think >>54514736 might be onto something here. Even if you end your move on top of terrain, you treat the terrain as "not there" while actually moving.

>>54514748

chop the rope off, attach the hook to the gun barrel.

>>54514758
The fabled abocron

>>54514728
So I'm trying to see an advantage of the primaris over a normal Captain caked in Deathwatch kit. I'm feeling there isn't one.

>>54514774
I don't know the deathwatch stat line of the top of my head, how does it stack up next to a Primaris Captain?

>>54514710

The way I've always read that is you get to ignore any effects terrain would have on you while moving. But if you want to move vertically, you still count the distance.

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So...With a little green stuff I think I can actually make something like that. Wouldn't be that hard. And I'd get to keep his original pimp stick for Fabulous Bile conversion. Thoughts?

>>54514703
>quoting adb
Nice try chaoscuck

>>54514790
I give it a >>>/v/ out of >>>/v/

>>54514790
There is a reason why reaper is a fun charicter: he looks fucking rad, even if he is edgy as fuck. Do it

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What would be a good replacement for the Vindicator in this 1000 point list? Using the RG Chapter tactics for what its worth.

>Techmarine Hq with Combi Plasma and Servo Harness
>Vet Squad x5 with Combi Flamers
>Razorback with Twin Heavy Bolter and Storm Bolter
>Venerable Dread with Assault Cannon, CCW and Storm Bolter
>Vindicator with Storm Bolter
>Devastators x 5 (x 2 Lascannon, 1 Missile Launcher, 1 Plasma Cannon)
>Servitors x 5 (x 2 Heavy Bolters)
>Thunderfile Cannon and Gunner

Points are going off the old index it it matters. I'm thinking a long ranged dread, maybe the Primaris one, or perhaps a Predator; something to hang out with the Techmarine Gunner in the back line to patch it up.

>>54514788
If it ignores any effects, that would include the effect that vertical movement has. Remember that fly applies to jump packs and flyers now. Do you count vertical distance when moving a flyer? No. So why would you count it for another fly unit?

>>54514758
see
>>54514749

>>54514788
I mean you could I guess, but it doesn't make much sense to me that a flyer would have to count the distance going up and down a building.

>>54514809
If that interpretation were correct you couldn't end your movement on top of some terrain piece because it wouldn't be there to end your movement on top of.

>>54514808
>>54514788
>>54514758
>>54514749
Sounds like we need an FAQ

i would point out that not all terran is classified as terran, eg a cliff has no data sheet, so isnt terran, but still has verticla distance

>>54514809
>>54514749
Have the rulebook ever stated what "ignoring terrain" entails or are we working purely off of speculations as usual?

>>54514821
Just seems like common sense to me.

>>54514830
>Using evidence
>Not baseing your posts on wild speculation
pff, what a newfag

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>>54514578
Are we batman now?

>>54514840
I mean for casual play, sure, but what about torniments, where Common Sence has no place?

>>54514849
>torniments
Ewwwwwwwwwww

>>54514802
Vindicator's got a pretty signficant cost decrease, but dreads would also take advantage of the -1 to hit of your "sneaky beaky assault marine" chapter you've clearly built your list around.

>>54514818
As a flying vehicle; for example a flying brick.
I'd say it makes sense to be able to end you movement over the ruined building/cliff/house/ocean while not actually taking into account it's height as you feasibly are already at a higher altitude. But as >>54514821
states; we gonna need an FAQ on this.

>>54514849
That's up to TO's.

Do we have warlord traits?

Are there any stratagems that work really well for or are specific to dreads?

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>>54514393
Necrons actually have a unused character that is fit for a Primaris Equivalent.
>The Silent King
>The "Creator" of the Necrons.

>>54514597
it snaps

>>54514748
Imagine if GW was still pushing that Finecast garbage today and they made the Reiver kit out of resin. Just imagine.

>>54514856
I'm just finding the Vindicator underwhelming, even with a points drop. Dreads getting the -1 is really tempting though. I could also fit in a Storm Hawk for fluff reasons if I juggled a couple of wargear choices, though I'm not sure that's really worth it for a 1000 point list.

>>54514760
That's not storing it as modeled though.
It voids the point of the problem with their design choice and the designer's intentions of how people are going to bring the model to their game.

>>54514748
Magnetise the arm maybe.

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>No more Looted Wagons
>No More Grukk the Face Rippa
>No more 'Ard Boyz
>No more tellyportas
>No more Warpheads for two Psychic Powers a turn
>No more power vomit
>No more Green Tide as one unit
>Ghazghkull looks puny now, even when compared to Grukk
>No more Burna on Big Meks
>Still no option to give a Warboss a Rokkit Pack
>No more Brutal But Kunnin'
>No more Kunnin' but Brutal
>Still somewhat mourning the loss of Zogwort and Wazdakka Gutsmek

What odd thing disappointed you a bit from your army in the transition to 8th?

Rate faction names faggots

Thousand Sons > World Eaters > Word Bearers > Emperor's Children > Night Lords > Alfa Legion/Iron Warriors >>>>> Death Guard

>>54514960
My entire subfaction (D-99) disappeared, and I lost the only named characters.
Now I play vanilla Elysians
>Inquisitor Solomon Lok
Now part of <ordo xenos>
>Major Durra
Squatted

Tau:
Lost deep striking broadsides, was fun having missile fists deep strike, also while it's not a loss, skyrays are one of the worst units (maybe THE worst one) in the game, which makes me sad

>>54514656
>>54514740
Found it

http://bloodofkittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/ETC-2017-Complete-Team-Lists.pdf

>>54514878
Silent king is handsome and his form looks like a metal person (like the C'tan) as opposed to the skeletal look of the rest of the Necrons.
This was as described by a Blood Angel comparing his beauty to Sanguinius.

But I can't fucking find the source... It was a recent book I believe.

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Is it true that Chaos pays more than chads for the same things but worse?

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>>54514960
>meks cannot repair vehicles they are embarked in, making evil sunz the least likely klan to take meks
>special weapons in boyz mobs are still a waste of points
>still no option for big shoota on spannaz even though burna/loota kit includes one
>burna only D3 hits
>still no loota variety
>no more exhaust cloud on warbikes

>>54514960
>Ancients now suck
>Jink has been severely nerfed (although rightfully so but holy fuck it got hit HARD)
>9" deep strike makes running Deathwing Knights difficult without a transport
>Asmodai STILL SUCKS
Feels bad

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>>54514960
>No more ballroom dresses.
>No more techno-magic
>No more assassin marks
>No more Silver Tide
>No more customizing the Overlord to hold 40% of your entire army budget as a single model
>No more flying circus
>No more making the opponent hit himself with his own hyper-specialized lord-killing weapons
>No more self-ressurecting Lords
>No more self-ressurecting Ladies
>No more glancing everything to death with only troops.

Does anyone know if shroud of night has a pdf/epub?

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>>54514960
What No More Grukk? Oh For Fucks Sake How Much More Before Slaanesh Becomes Green Form The Amount Of Arse Fucking Orks Receive

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>>54515043

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>>54515054
Yes, the orks got suck and cucked quite a lot this edition

>>54515067
Hey we saw a lot of big buffs, just lost a lot of content too. We'll see what the codex brings.
In 2019.

>>54515043
I mean, I didn't like Grukk all that much, but from the way they were pushing him as a character, and from how tough he was in the fluff I did read of him, and how he allegedly died and then returned, I'm a little surprised at his disappearance. I really liked his power klaw that shredded and his Feel No Pain.

>>54515067
>my army is viable now!
>time to get assblasted!

So this is the power or orktism

>>54515083
>orktism
kek

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>>54514960
>Vanguard don't anti-horde, should be the old 2W.
>Rangers even MORE useless at AP.
>Everyone lost FnP for an invuln that only works if your opponent shoots fucking lascannon at infantry.
>Rusties and Infils lost 1A base and 1A for charging in return for fuck all.
>Neurostatic gimped.
>Haywire gimped to Rapid Fire 1 Asscans, should be like Eldar Haywire.
>Kataphrons FAR too expensive.
>Dragoons can't kill fuck all and lost 1A base/Charge attack.
>Dunecrawlers lost Squadron.
>Plascals not glorious Assault 3.
>Ironstriders not Sniper when still like their fluff.
>Cognis useless.
>Dominus mandatory and expensive as hell, Enginseer should be HQ.
>Everyone has to ball up around Cawl.
>Still no fucking Jeepcrawler for my tin men.
>RIP Doctrinas.
>Canticles gutted, every single buff provides Reroll Ones instead of a range of bonuses like LITERALLY EVERYONE ELSE. Should be +1 To Hit instead of R1.
>Only defensive bonus completely ignored by Imp Fists, among others, and doesn't stack. Should be -1 To Hit.

Does anyone miss the Character challenges from last edition? I don't quite see how it could be adapted this edition with the changes to how characters work but dang it I do miss the Nob vs Champion battles, and the HQ on HQ battles.

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Would you play against this?

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>>54515083
>orktism
we have entered some next level shit

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>>54515000
>Checked
I chuckle at the god damn meme-tier bullshit going on here.
>Magnus the Ted + 3 Knights.
>Brought 4 models to the table, total.
I need to know how this ended.
Where do we find the results of this?
>yes I'm a netlisting autist that uses tourney results to decide what to buy next.

>>54514796
A 5/5? How nice of you.

>>54515100
Wanna play my nurglings? I shit on 32mm bases. Dont worry bruh, theyre clear coated

>>54515023
>>9" deep strike makes running Deathwing Knights difficult without a transport
You what?
You can setup 9" away from an enemy unit and charge it out of deepstrike, where you only need to roll 8" on 2D6 which is only 1 over the average.

>>54514960
Mephiston lost the ability to fly when it's been a staple for him for years. He's also lost Fleet it seems or equiv movement buff. Granted he's S10 default, but that's still shit.

Cawl is now Mars only.

Sautekh is the best dynasty due to having 5 or so named characters for it only.

Longstrike cannot go in Forge World Hammerhead units

Chronus cannot go in Terminus Ultra. Neither can Calgar.

Lost all the Imperial Guard named characters from IA1. We lost the generic Tank Commanders. I don't want Pask to be the best best guy ever best. I want a Superheavy Tank Commander, named or generic.

Sniper Drones are shit now, can no longer shoot 3 times per turn at 24".

Flash Gitz are shit and don't have a specific clan.

>>54515100
Yeah, sure why not? Just krump them like the rest. I do like the model though.

>>54515111
Friend on my team faced that. Had three knights plus some DA flyers. He lost.

>>54515111
Fact is there is so much flyer spam is disgusting. Girlyman + 5 Stormravens is insanity.

>>54514748
You'll find a way
t. Tyranid player

>>54514578
What use is a grappling hook fired at that angle?

>>54515098
Just ask your opponent for a cinematic showdown rule or some shit if you really want to. The game is so rules light there's room for it, just say that if a character can complete a heroic intervention and there is a character in the melee within four inches of the end of it's move it can swap places with another model

>>54515130
To cross rooftops or to swing from a rooftop to street level using a street light or a store sign or some shit

>>54515111
ETC hasn't happened yet, they'll have to let the flyer spam lists resubmit now or ignore the faq

>>54515130
You can't be serious.

What's a suitably spooky model that I can use for my Interrogator Chaplain in Terminator Armor?

>>54515126
It's basically dead already, GW nipped it in the bud.

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>>54515136
>But what if the opponents character isn't kitted for melee and thus doesn't want to die horribly in melee?
>What if the opponent doesn't like losing out to my carefully constructed homebrew?
>What if he says 'No'?
>I NEED RUUUUUUUUUUUULES

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>>54515152
New Chaplain? If you have $500 to spend, the Exclusive Terminator Chaplain? Pic related.

>>54515159
Thank Christ. They're still powerful and still resilient. It'll just be 'camp my ground troops while my flyers do damage and then grab objectives'. Or 'first to kill ground units win'

>>54515159
kind of but not entirely
Still it was a good nerf

>>54515159
Killing girlyman is still somewhat of a feat; He does have 9+d6 wounds, 2+/3++ armor and his ass full of re-rolls.

>>54515142
That makes sense, but it looks kind of stupid then all pictures have that model on ground level.

>>54515147
I am serious

>>54515117
Jesus we've been over this, you need to get within 1" of the unit so if D is the distance from the unit the to make the charge
D≤1"
When you set up the models they must be more than nine inches away so
D>9"
Thus if you move 8" closer and started out at a point that approaches but is not equal to 9" away you will be at the distance
D>1" which is of course not the same as D≤1"

>>54515160
Well then just allow him to reject any challenge he wants with no penalty my anxious friend

>>54515147
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.

>>54515159
5 man Stormravens + Girlyman is still great. The Stormravens wipe out ground units and Girlyman can cap the objective for 1-0 win. I mean, it's less easy now if they get lucky, but Girlyman is still good enough to do it and Stormravens et al are still dakkadakdakdkada.

>>54515180
This nigga speaks the truth. It has even been FAQ'ed.

>>54515188
>>54515175
It's risky to do it now. Guilliman is sturdy, but he's far from invincible, and losing him is an auto-loss.

>>54515185
>Why should he be allowed to reject challenges penalty free? That RUINS the WHOLE point! Challenges are there so I can WIN more!

>>54515172
That one looks really good but I'm not sure if it's Dark Angels enough. I'll probably just buy it from a recaster if I do decide to get it though.

i have a chimera that i want turned into a hellhound

how do i cover the lasgun array? do i just paste the ball part of the array in so it covers the hole?

So it doesn't matter how many of a weapon I have in this edition? I could have a space marine with 2d6 power axes and he'd still have the same benefits as having one?

>>54515180
>Jesus we've been over this
I'm really sorry that I'm not in every thread to have seen this discussion before.
Don't have a go at me like I've ignorantly neglected the information.
And it's not like I'm trying to argue something cheesey like wutang clan or splitting my units up into 2 man coherency and expecting it to be compliant.

Yes your logic is correct and I didn't think of it that way before. Thank you for clearing it up with sensible information.

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>>54515209
if the opponent is fielding all flyers + Robby G I will promise you; that Primaris will be hiding behind impassible terrain and out of LoS the entire gime while tactically advancing in the opposite direction of enemy firepower, until it is safe to do otherwise, while his 4-5 Stormravens hammer the opponent.

>>54514597
Breaks off before you can get it on the table?

>>54515209
Can confirm. had a 20 power torny the other week, one guy brough G-man and nothing else, i just porued wounds onto him, and at the end of the time, he had 1 wound left (after rezing), and he rolled a 6 for his wounds after getting up
smite is the best thing in this edition

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>>54514790
Why not just use the already existing miniature?

>>54515227
Unless it has a power like '+1 attacks with this weapon' then im pretty sure having two identical weapons offers no additional benefits.

>>54514703
>believing anything the Emperor says
He's a moron.

>>54515256
It's pasta you newfuck

>>54515180
To be fair, it's still not hard to get. Ethically with a reroll.

>>54515235

Meanwhile i field 12 smites in 530 points

>>54514703
>Humanity has lost

who cares, you can still play the real winners of the end game

the orks

>>54515228
It's pretty powerful though when you consider that it changes your chance of making a charge from 27.78% to 41.67%

Building a Necron army, first army so I kind of picked up a bit of everything (except HQ's).

I'm looking for a 1500-2000 point list.

My current rostrer of things include

Warriors x 20 = 240
Immortals x 10 w Tesla = 170
Wraiths x 3 w Pistol = 125
Stalker x 1 w Heat Ray = 171
Deathmarks x 5 = 100
Praetorians x 5 125 w Rod of Covenant = 175
Overlord = 119
Destroyers x 3 =129
Ghost Ark = 170

All up that's 1339 points, but I'm looking at getting another 20 Warriors and a Cryptek which brings it up to 1503.

Any thoughts on what I should drop or add? Not too sure on the Praetorians.

>>54515096
I'm still not really sure what they were thinking with the new cognis. Ironstriders already move fucking 10", how often am I going to even need to advance it? Dunecrawlers advance D3, why the fuck would I ever bother or at least bother often enough that Cognis HS' even take advantage of cognis?

Phosphor serpentas losing their synergy with Dragoons kinda sucks too.

>>54515289
Only for one unit though, Templars are better off if you want to do a deep striking assault termie army.

>>54515278
No, Chaos wins. If Chaos wins, the galaxy is put into the Warp. Chaos wins. Orks don't. Necrons don't. Eldar don't. T'au don't. Nobody wins. Only Chaos. That's why everybody hated that book. Even Chaosfags hated it because it was going 'you know the next 10k years? Abaddon and 13th BC? Yeah, totally shit. Tzeentch won it for Chaos as soon as he got Magnus to blow the wards'.

People don't like ADB because he forces his fetishes (women everywhere, even when there are established women he could write about, everybody is black or brown, Titan fights because why not, OC guys you've never heard of who are super powerful and or important to the plot, Chaos destroying everything, Emperor is a dick for no reason (thus defeating the whole Horus fights point) and so on and so forth.

>>54515096
Look on the bright side, anon. You've got robots that kill entire squads of Space Marines every turn, Infiltrators that wreck the shit out of conscript spam, and the best anti-tank weapons in the Imperium.

>>54515309
No I wasn't talking about rerolls but the difference 1" makes.

>>54515278
>orktistics
>winning
KEK

>>54515227

>2d6 power axes

Why would he...

Is he a juggler?

Are you rolling to see how many he's dropped?

>>54515312
As a Thousand Sons player, I hope he gets fucked in the ass with a rusty rake for what he did to our lore.

>>54515312
Don't forget mental domination. BL includes a woman character it will end with some kind of mental domination at one point.

>>54515312
>Even Chaosfags hated it because it was going 'you know the next 10k years? Abaddon and 13th BC? Yeah, totally shit. Tzeentch won it for Chaos as soon as he got Magnus to blow the wards'.

Don't be a moron. Chaosfags love it, and complete the quote. The Emperor says even if Horus was defeated, another more powerful and cunning warlord would come to replace him in time. Learning from Horus's mistakes this warlord would usher the doom of humanity. Abaddon is most likely this warlord.

>>54515083
>have army that is usually only played by people who want a lot of fun and don't care if they win or lose
>suddenly waacfags are getting into it
I mean he does kinda have a point about the assblasting in that regard

>>54515129
>tyranids
>magnetized and transported in bits: the army

>>54515289
Yeah that's an excellent point. I don't mathhammer too often to sit down and work out the odds.
Rolling a 9 on 2D6 isn't the end of the world.
Playing a mate, if he rolled an 8 on the charge with his BA hammernators, I'd give it to him for a spare bedroom game, but let him know the deal with that when we go to tournaments.

>>54515348
Kharn>Celestine>Wounded and powerless Celestine>Abaddon

He is the most powerful plot armour bad writin warlord. I'll grant you that

>>54515348
Black Legion fanboys maybe but I don't think anyone else likes him, certainly not Thousand Sons players.

>>54515348
Continued....fuck Captcha.

Haven't you learned nothing from AoS? Nothing truly ends. Chaos's victory only sets the stage for a new setting. Basically flipping the table and replacing it with a fancier and shiner table

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>>54515292
Praetorians are super fucking solid; with the voidblade buff the Rod of covenant are now obsolete.
Overlord goes in the pimp-mobile; no expceptions.
3 Destroyers does nothing; either field them in squads of 6 for survivabillity or 3 Heavies permanently out of enemy range.
Wraiths are damn survivable but pretty "meh" this edition. Praetorians does their job, only better due to Reanimation procols, armor shredding and the <FLY> keyword which lets them disengage from fights and still fire their pistols if you so wish.

Stalker + Immortals are pretty sexy with dat 5+ tesla.
You lack anti-vehicle D6 damage, but heavy destroyers can fix that.

Never seen Deathmarks used. They don't seem all that good in my opinion, as they will get shot to shit and auto-deleted after firing their 10 shots that average 1 Wound and 1.6 Mortal wound against a standard Marine/MEQ.

>>54515312
My favorite is "chaos has to be winning because grim darkness!"

The new Chaoswinslol is just edge and wank, not plot.

>>54515348
>Chaosfags loved it
I didn't. It was bullshit which shat on Abaddon (what you're saying is total horseshit, Emperor literally says it doesn't matter) and all other Gods apart from Tzeentch.

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>>54514962
Iron Warriors should be higher up fucker

>>54515371
>AoS
>shiny new table
AoS was just flipping the table only to see the underside. Nothing but dicks carved into along with chewing gum

>>54515292
I'd say drop the deathmarks, swap the stalkers gun to the gauss, and see about either bumping up praet numbers to ten or adding more destroyers. Maybe also try to get a doomsday in there; it's good fun

>>54515365
Wrong. Go to the Celestine thread and read up what's posted.

-Celestine was stated to be no match for Abaddon in FoC. He straight up defeated her and was only saved at the last moment bu the combined effort of Creed and Greyfax. She then saved Creed at the last minute and woop wooped away.

-Abaddon and Kharn fought in the Red Path series. Abaddon utterly dominated Kharn pummelling him to the ground and pinning him down.

-Celestine was recently dominated and beheaded by Kharn.

I doubt there is any character in the setting that can beat Abaddon in a straight up fight.

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>people are defending an author who literally pre-emptively defends his book by going 'not everybody will like this book :^)' and 'I am a chaos fan boy, there, you can't call me a chaos fan boy when you call me on my latest book of bullshit' on top of 'i don't like the emperor, but because Laurie Goulding an I are butt buddies, he'll give me the ability to write the emperor's fluff and I can make him a dick for no reason'

this must be some meta bait.

>>54515401
If that was the case, then WHFB was not a table, but a coaster. Because nobody played it and it wasn't even in Top 5 wargame sellers in 2013. Oh and for reference, AoS is currently 4th.

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>>54515292
>>54515378
I can't believe I actually forgot.
The Annihilation barge is pretty well rounded; consider that.

>Crypteks are arguably the second best unit in the entire army; 5++ saves and +1 reanimation protocols are mandatory. In 2k points, never go with less than 2 of these nerds.

>You want more than 1 Overlord. HWBD is the best and only buff in the army. If you field anything of value or 20 man blobs, you're gonna want at more of that.

>>54514962
>Word Bearers>anything
No.

>>54515409
could have spoiler tagged the Shroud of Night spoiler.

>>54515307
Yeah. If it was Sniper when stationary it would make sense, because you could hose down Commissars and such with the heavy stubbers and bully bigger characters with las- and autocannon, but nooo, they had to make our guns fire at BS6 after advancing, which as you said kinda isn't happening.

>>54515317

Oh, we're not BAD, by any means, we're in the same spot we always were as "upper half of mid-tier", we're just.. meh. Everything is just a tad dull. Sure, beepboops and Dunecrawlers are amazing, but Infiltrators are down to 2A base so the Mortal Wounding Fulgurites do their job better AND kill EVERYTHING ELSE, and I'm painting up a Ruststalker Princeps that so far has been really fun, but I just know he's never going to see play because he's a 2/3 offense Genestealer with 2W and worse T and Saves for 20ppm.

Did GW fix the Voidblade and that other weapon for Overlords? Same stats but one is more expensive.

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>>54514578

>the Emperor has been depicted as being literally wrong about every single thing he's done and said during the Horus Heresy (thanks for that btw BL) but when he says chaos will win everyone takes it as gospel truth that cannot be undone

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>54515409
He still got his spine cut.

In any case; Abaddon vs Shadowsun the most plot armour and badly written characters. Who's plot armour would win?

>>54515409
Bobby G or another Primarch could handle him.

>>54515438
Extra attack now like a chainsword

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>>54514960
And maybe

>No more Bike HQs in the codex

>>54515449
Abby, Black Legion wank can't be outdone and it taints to whole of chaos with its wretched stench.

>>54515449

Sicarious would pop out of a drop pod after both are exhausted and plink them to death.

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>>54515417

Shouldn't you be posting in your dead general that's dead because the game is so vapid and it's lore so creatively bankrupt that not even shills can find something to talk about?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/25/top-3-builds-for-the-redemptor-dreadnought-july25gw-homepage-post-2/

>>54515409
mechanically speaking, calgar's always had his number

This is also why abaddon has never invaded ultramar personally. He always leaves it to disposable lieutenants.

>>54515477
Not dead, prove it's dead.

>>54515492
Bit defensive there eh?

>>54515222
A hood is easy to green stuff you'd be surprised.

Also I bought one from a recanter and love it. I normally buy FW stuff direct because it doesn't break the bank for me, but exclusives or OOP items I think are fair game to chinacast

>>54515451
Voidblade does now? Neat. I still think the Staff of Light is best option because Assault 3 S5 -1 1D I think and similar melee damage.

>>54515409
Kharn was held off by a generic Death Company Chaplain in Angel's Blade.

>>54515466
I dunno. There is some bullshit Shadowsun stories

>be in spaceship
>get shot down
>ship survives crash landing
>your escape capsul is filling
>Shadowsun manages to override the AI safety despite it being designed not to allow it
>Shadowsun then swims to the surface
>she then swims deeper into the lake to rescue her suit, despite Tau not being good at swimming and being in there double the length of her best capacity
>she then force marches days without food or water
>she then engages an entire IG force and solo's 8 Sentinels and dozens of IG
>she captures an IG officer
>she then gets told her sisters have died, she shrugs it off
>she and surviving Tau force march to a radar station, without much food or water
>they're attacked by wildlife which manages to kill fuck loads of them, but she manages to survive without a scratch
>she then survives attack runs by Vendetta gunships
>she then is the only one left with the IG officer
>she is then surrounded by 40 Scions, a Colonel and Vendetta gunships, on a bridge
>she duels the Colonel and despite having her chest stabbed and her leg muscles cut open, she wins
>she then kills all 40 of the Scions on her own and blows up the gunships
>she then makes it to the radar station and gets it to work
>all the time she's having delusions and shit

That's just one story.

>>54515466
>>54515471
Any time someone mentions Abaddon or Kharn you know it is going to be shit.
Fanfict tire writing this guy get is stupid

>>54515503
>he thinks it was him
lol newfag

>>54515513
>Kharn was held off by a generic Death Company Chaplain in Angel's Blade.

He's not generic he has a name and is a Blood Angels Fan favourite! new GW writer: plz love our new characters!!!!111

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>>54514767

>>54515243
OMG I KNOW RIGHT GW TOTALLY RIPPING OFF BLIZZARD WHO LITERALLY INVENTED THIS STUFF
>kys
>even if you were just trying to be funny kys

>>54515409

The red path book Kharn and Abaddon fought in had a Bloodthirster treating both of them like spoiled children who needed a time out, remember.

So this guy got a model

>>54515449
>He still got his spine cut.

So what? He was choking out Creed and the wound was just a flesh wound for a Space Marine because of the Black Carapace.

The fact remains that Celestine lost to Abaddon and had to be saved.

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>1000 point patrol detachment (orks)

warboss on warbike with slugga, power klaw

painboy on warbike with power klaw, 'urty syringe

11 boyz (5 w/ slugga/choppa, 6 w/ shoota)
+ boss nob w/ slugga, power klaw
+ trukk w/ big shoota, wreckin' ball

11 boyz (5 w/ slugga/choppa, 6 w/ shoota)
+ boss nob w/ slugga, power klaw
+ trukk w/ big shoota, wreckin' ball

12 gretchin w/ grot blastas

5 warbikers w/ slugga, choppa
+ boss nob w/ slugga, big choppa

4 warbuggies w/ rack of rokkitz

Thoughts? Anything I should bear in mind to avoid getting steamrolled every game?
Also any ideas on how to expand?

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What does /tg/ think is the superior power weapon? Sword, Axe, Maul?

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>>54515531

Very cool!

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>>54515531
forgot image

>>54515513
>Kharn was held off by a generic Death Company Chaplain in Angel's Blade.

The chaplain was losing the fight and IIRC was saved by rubble.

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>>54515542

>>54515409

So
Abbaddon>Runaway Land Raider>Kharn>Celestine

>>54515513
Shadowsun smelled a Callidus assassin and knew it was a disguise.
But some how species that can sense your non orky ways, read your mind or be telepathically connected to every member of the brood can not tell a Callidus apart from the shaft.
The only way they can is if the Callidus fucks up her cultural mannerism.

But nooo Shadowsun just knew it was a fake and proceeds to defeat a Callidus in melee within closed space.

>>54515275
How so? if you say astropaths i swear...

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>>54515460
>warboss on warbike
>big mek on warbike
>painboy on warbike

Hwat?

>>54515529
Yes, I remember.

Read this post >>54515509

>>54515378
>>54515403
>>54515421

Damn, I didn't know Praetorians were that solid. Is the voidblade really that good? I'm new to the game and I thought that having the armour reduction would be better, or does that limit what they're supposed to do?

So basically:
Swap Rods to Voidblades/Particle Casters
Upgrade the 3 Destroyers to Heavies
Get 1-2 Crypteks
Gauss up the Stalker (Would it be worth going Tesla if I have the 10 Immortals already? or Gauss if I have the 3 Heavies?)
Get the Overlord a new ride

Thanks for the tips guys!

>>54515549
this here's big shas and he's 7 feet tall and you can't teach that

>>54515558
isn't it because Ethereals give off a mind control musk smell thing?

>>54515117
You're a retard. Read the fucking FAQ.

So how good are Tau and chaos space marines now
For tau can my army be tonnes of devil fish with troops, stealth suits and a few crisis suits with flamers and kroot bubble wrap or do I have to buy the new models to play well
And how good would an all sonic marine list be
>>54515539
Axe because Euron

>>54515430
They could at least remove the -2 to hit penalty and just make cognis weapons a pseudo assault heavy weapon. At least then I might be inclined to use it on occasion with ironstriders at least.

>>54515556
Wounded Celestine>Abaddon.
Abaddon>Healthy Celestine
Get your facts right

If anything just to annoy Armless the Harmless fanboys.

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First game of 8th yesterday.

Chaos vs Orks with Orks winning.

Gotta say 8th so far is pretty bloody enjoyble, and even themed lists (in my case Dark Mechanicum) are perfectly valid. Looks like we have a fun period ahead of us. Asuming we don't get too much back into Codex creep with the new dexes coming out.

>>54515563
I think SM lost their bike hq's and he's afraid itll happen to orkz too.

>>54515539
I'd say maul, but mostly because I have a huge hardon for big hammers and since I want to put hammers in things they're my only option, as its hard to pass out Thunder Hammers to everyone in points.

>>54515560

Pfft I said smites, not half-assed single d6 ones.

>>54515100
>>54515117
>You can setup 9" away from an enemy unit and charge it out of deepstrike, where you only need to roll 8" on 2D6 which is only 1 over the average.

9-8 = 1

Given you have to be within 1", that's a failed charge.

WITHIN 1" means CLOSER THAN 1".

>>54515572
give him a ethereal pal who talks a good game but gets his head kicked in every battle

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>>54515513
Ok dude; I play crons.
>Overlord goes in pimpmobile; Gets <fly>, gets T6, gets 8W, gets 12'' move and gets Deflection Shield, but loses 4++. Is a character, hard to snipe.

>Warscythe has S7, -4, 2 damage per wound.
>is 7 points cheaper than staff of light, which is S5, -2, 1; both in melee and ranged.

>I've found that the warscythe vastly outperforms the 12'' shooting and with the pimpmobile's 12'' long schlong you might as well charge it if it is of any importance.

>The Voidblade buff made Rod of Covenant obsolete for Praetorians as RoC was basically 10 shots of S5, -3, 1; when you shoot and 20 identical attack with a charge.
>Pistol + Voidblade is now 30 attacks of S5, -3, 1 and 10 shots of S6, -, 1.

>The latter as you can imagine, being simply better due to 10 more attacks.

>>54515585
Wounded Celestine didn't fight Abaddon though. She just stabbed him and ran. So she automatically forfeited the duel. So two losses for her.

>>54515596
an ethereal GEEK cutting 10 minute promos

>>54515574
Eldar can read your mind
GSC are connect to a personal level to each member of the brood
Ork can sense chaos taint and un orky
All fooled by a Callidus easily, usually detected because they fuck up cultural things.

If Shadowsun knew it was a fake because the Callidus didn't do something all tau should know. Sure it make sense. But the smell funny excuse is bullshit even for 40k

>>54515466
Abaddon is the one character that I think it is okay to build up as strong as fuck, simply because he IS supposed to be the Archaon of the setting. After all the failed crusades it's about time he started being built up as strong

>>54515586

This.
The falling back mechanic especially brings actual tactics into play, where units might tie up an enemy in combat with no intention of harming it, but to prevent it from shooting.

>>54515593
They how? and can i do it with chaos?

>>54515583
Also give me fucking dunestrider back and just make it add to advances.

>>54515588
I guess it's possible, it's not like they have official models. Fuck I'll be mad though.

>>54515572
>>54515596
>>54515610
kek

Okay okay, we all know by now GW has to give values in over or under a certain amount of inches instead of exact inch values for some inane reason. Get over it.

>>54515604
Abaddon run, like the armless and spineless bitch he is.

>>54515117
>You can setup 9" away
no you cant. you cna set up MORE than 9" away

>>54515628
White scars lost khan on a bike it's far from impossible.
best of luck to you Mr Ork

>>54515632
Abaddon fled because the Pylons were activating and threatened to leave him stranded and surrounded by the entirety of the 8th Cadian regiment.

But he gave the Cadian a parting gift.

>>54515595

>I am dumb: the post

You are right for all the wrong reasons.

Within 1: EXACTLY 1 or LESS

More than 9: MORE than 9

MORE than 9 - 8 = MORE than 1

>>54515648
>run like a bitch after getting shanked by a guuuuurl

If he was half the man Creed was he would have stay and fight.
Oh wait he already is kek. Hello Mr. Spineless

>>54515631
What the fuck did you just say, I'm British English and I couldn't understand that

Do people mainly use power levels or points now

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>>54514642
those are proppa

in the 1500 list Id do something about the 13 choppa squad, like switch it out for 5 lootas or something

>>54515595
FAQ determined that within includes being exactly that far away or closer
So deploying exactly 9 inches away means that a charge roll of 8 is successful

>>54515595
1 is a whole number. "Within 1" means 1 as well as all of the decimals. Kill yourself, brainlet.

>>54515292
>>54515378

Since you guys are talking about necrons maybe you guys can rate my 1k, I usually play against dark eldar kabalites

Overlords resorb+warscythe 147
Cryptek 104
Warriors x20 - 240
Immortals x5 - 85
scarabs swarms x8 - 104
Wraiths x3 -114
Destroyers x2 heavy destroyer x1 - 201


I'm limited in what models i have but i hope this is too garbage, what models should i get next to upgrade?

>>54515676
I do most of my playing at a GW shop and they're going with power points over old points

>>54515682
>So deploying exactly 9 inches away means that a charge roll of 8 is successful
see
>>54515653
and>>54515635
fuck face

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>>54515569
The stalker weapon is actually up for choice; against hordes you want the particle caster, against vehicles you want the Gauss.

The heat ray gives you flexibillity at the cost of the Caster's shots and the Gauss' range.

>personally I have only tested the Heat ray, but I guess I have only gotten to use it as the Anti-vehicle as people only ever charge it from 9'' away at which point you can't use it as a heavy flamer. But the Heat ray's Multimelta ability of dealing 2d6 damage and discarding the lowest result at 12'' range is pretty baller.

>>54515692
>Arguing GW faq
Just stop

>>54514790
you have to go back

>>54515688
Total is 995 sorry

>>54515668
You don't win wars and thrones by being a prideful idiot. He tipped his Horus's skull-cup in respect for Cadians for winning the battle but in the end Abaddon drank his wine at sight of him winning the war.

And Creed was a fool for choosing to die rather than continuing to provide his service for the Imperium.

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>>54515699
You're an embarrassment to people with eyes and brains

>>54515712

Why are you sorry?

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>>54515572
>>54515596
>>54515610

With the SM codex out soon, we know that CSM is next and then it's Grey Knight, then Deathguard.

What do you think the timeline will be? CSM mid/end of August? What about the other two smaller ones?

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>>54515130
catching Trygons and reeling them in

>>54515718
>photoshopping pictures just to win an internet argument
Embarrassing

>>54515723
I guess because I forgot to include all of the information?

I'm sorry that I'm so sorry anon, please forgive :(

What brand/size brushes do everyone use and for what purpose?

>>54515731
CSM, Grey Knights in the first 2 weeks of August, then the rest of the month and the start of September for Death Guard.

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>>54515729

>>54515577
>>54515595
>>54515635

You're the idiots for not reading that I was already replied to by >>54515180 and it's been addressed and I agreed...

Fuck these generals got worse the past 6 weeks. I don't know if it's edgy summer kids or people returning for 8th.

any more news on the Codex SM? full point list? i have an index army to overhaul

>>54515768
>edgy summer kids or people returning for 8th.
Kids? No.
Manchildren? Yes.

>>54515745
I use the Citadel brushes because I'm a good goy.

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>>54515688
Resorb is rarely a waste of points, but you want it for something a bit more valuable like Praetorians or Destroyers; or a near annihilated blob of 20 warriors. But at 1k points it is a hard fit.

I can no longer play games without fielding my Triarch Stalker, It's too good at giving out Re-roll 1's to the other Necron units.
5 immortals are cute, but unless you field your valuable units at max size, you're severely cutting down your reanimation protocol value. 5 Immortals die to a stiff breeze of plasma, las or shurikens. 10 immortals do not.

The Destoyers should only be fielded in groups of 6 to survive shenanigans and still be able to reanimate or as 3 Heavy Destroyers as they have 36'' range and should never be in range of regular enemy fire.

Consider
>3 more destroyers
>Triarch Stalker
>Praetorians
>Pimpmobile for Lord
>5 more immortals

>>54515539
pretty sure the Maul is the best, mechanically, but aesthetically I'm all down for Sword

>>54515713
It is better to die for the emperor than to live for yourself.

Any leaked rules on the Reivers? Not the First Strike ones, but ones with their grappling hooks and all that.

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>>54515534
S T O R M
B
O
Y
Z

Or a fat battlewagon full of some ded 'ard nobs

>>54515814
Did you check the mega?

>>54515713
>not pride whore bitch one
>Abaddon
The bitch teleported just to get shiv. He is a pride crack whore

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>>54515739
The truth doesn't fit into my delusions.
>kek nice photshop lad, better kys, embarassing, nothin personell kiddo
>not even the guy you're replying to.
>just fucking check the general rules FAQ

Unless your point is just to bump with shitposts.
Then by all means just continue.

>>54515539

S3: maul
S4: Axe or Maul
S5: Any

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>>54515837
Honestly I was just wrong and that was embarrassing.

Are any Necron HQ choices worth it, or is it simply better just to go with Overlord (Annihilation Barge) and Crypteks?

Was thinking of springing for Orikan the Diviner in the place of a Cryptek.

>>54515814
From memory
Can swap knife for bolt carbine (assault 2 range 24 bolter)
Grapple hook lets them outflank and ignore vertical distance on terrain.
Gravchute lets them deepstrike.

>>54515791

Triarch stalker is definitely on my list of things to buy, but I also only own 5 immortals and 1 destroyer. I'm not sure which to buy first. The triarch looks the coolest but I'm afraid will take me a long time to actually build and put on the field. I'm not sure which I should get first...

>>54515690
Thanks anon
And you go in with a list prepared right and don't waste 10 mins making one
What are average power point levels these days now formations are gone
>>54515745
Games workshop because I suppourt my local store

>>54515713
Creed didn't die.
Classic chaosfags not knowing the lore. Too busy sucking Armless the harmless cock.

Also Abaddon teleported to fight this random dudes out of pride.

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>>54514960
forge world not providing datasheets for like half of the ork units that used to be in IA8 including some units that FW still sells which doesnt make any sense

Overlord is great
Barge is great
Cryptek is great

Destroyer lord is good as a melee HQ that runs with wraiths.

Most named HQ are good if you plan to make use of their particular bonuses.

Lord is meh.

>>54515870
My store set it's club night at 50pp

>>54515745
Windsor and newton 3mm for basecoat, a W&N Pro 00 for details, and a series 7 00 for when i REALLY need to be accurate

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>>54515230
>Thinking I need LOS...
SON

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>>54515876
We all cry every time our eyeballs are graced by GW

So now that Pask can't order himself, does that mean other officers can't order themselves? Or is it just because normal tank commanders cant issue to themselves so they are keeping it consistent with Pask too.

>>54515919
Nice going

>Get pdfs from the op
>Drukhari

Wait wait wait, what the fuck is this?

>>54515836
Abaddon coming to the planet's surface was a matter of pride because he saw the Pylon plan as a challenge he cannot ignore and because the Chaos Gods demanded a satisfying battle (pity that the Pylons blinded them from seeing the fight). However, before he went down he rigged everything in his favor by his rocks to Cadia plan. Win or lose on the ground Cadia would be finished.

When Celestine backstabbed and he saw the pylons were closing he realised that he made was making the same mistake as Horus by making pride lead him so Abaddon rather than puruse Celestine and Creed swallowed his pride and teleported out to watch Cadia burn.

>>54515871
I said he choose to die. Not that he died. L2English.

>>54515582
Point for point Kroot aren't very cheap or effective. Better to just take your Devilfish and Firewarriors with some suit backup.

>>54515863
Stormlord seems kinda OK for what he do. Mortal wounds, improved ranged weapons and melee, regenerates more, more wounds.

The Traveler is cool in melee lists with Lychguards or praetorians because they get just that more killy.

Orikan is kinda cool because he CAN be used as a melee monster eventually and his weapon is basically a warscythe.

The rest I have yet to test.

>>54515941
Dark Eldar's new name. Suck it up goy.

>>54515919
Freedom building
Eagle cannon of freedom
Under the eagle? More freedom!

If that think is not painted like an American flag I'll be dissapointed

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Gorkanaut or Morkanaut for my Unit of Nobz and Boss?

How do Primarines look with tac-squad weapons?
Are the arms way too small to look good?

>>54515893

Meant to reply to

>>54515863

>>54515731
I thought Death Guard comes first

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>>54515867
Building it is surprisingly easy. It's painting it which is a royal pain.
Personally as you stand now I'd prioritize;
>Destroyers
>Stalker
>Immortals

In that order.

Destroyers for immediate anti vehicle.
Stalker for "armywide" buff and more anti-vehicle.
Then immortals for anti-horde; Immortals also greatly benefits from the Stalker.

>>54515983
The arms are actually almost the exact same size, at least compared to MK IV tacticals.

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No one is selling Orcas.

What do you think would be the best "counts as" chassis for this model if I wanted to build a custom one?

Aside from a shoebox, that is.

>>54515865
Is the carbine whole unit or per model basis? Are there no options for a sergeant?

>>54515923
ye im starting to get codexphobia (especially after the 7e codex that nerfed the old 5e one for "reasons"), especially after the faq/errata where gw nerfed lists that "people dont like" cause right now people are screaming about hordes

cant wait to lose biker characters
cant wait for shootas to go up in points again
cant wait for kans and dreads get nerfed even more

>>54515983
Their hands are probably too separated to fit the tactical squad weapons

>>54515964
always gorkanaut unless you really REALLY need a kff

but magnetize all your shit cause gorkanaut obviously will be the first thing to get nerfed in favour of the morkanaut (or maybe gw will just be retarded again and buff the gorkanaut even more, thats always a possibility)

>>54515999

Nice confirmed my thoughts. I was gonna grab a box of destroyers and then a triarch.

When I was new I bought some immortals and built them as deathmarks because i thought they looked cool... Still kills me on the inside.

>>54516003
Now I really want to see a converstion.
Was thinking about starting a SM army but using Primaris bodies as tactical marines, devs, assaults etc but I was afraid the scale of arms would be off.
Helmets also similar enough you think?

>>54516011
I think per mini, dunno about sergeant.

ive onky seen blurry pictures on the internet (that i don't have saved on this device)

>>54515958
I'm guessing this is related to the copyright thing a while back but Drukhari is so much wore than just simply Dark Aeldari would have been.

>>54515956
Illuminor Szeras is a beast. Cryptek, S80 AP-4, D6 is amazing along side a Stalker (3+ with RR 1s). His Warrior/Immortal buff is only good 2/3 times, but the +1 Strength is still "useful." 3+ save and 5 wounds on a T4 is meh, though. Surround him in dudes.

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>>54516040
>I did the same. Primed and black. But in 6th editionwhere I started they were in groups of 3-5

>I made 3 Deathmarks and 2 Immortals.
>What are you supposed to do with 3 marks and 2 immortals when they both are fielded only in squads of 10 now.
>Life is suffering

>>54516064
>S80
Dear lord. S8. I shouldn't be posting from a phone.

>>54516064
I will take it into consideration then!

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What new special characters would you like to see for your armies when your Codex comes out?

I'd love a Reaver character for my Dark Eldar, it feels a little off having a Succubus trying to chase after them in a Venom to give them buffs. Plus the Reaver models are more fun to paint than I thought they'd be.

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>>54516046
Not really a conversion but if you want a side by side comparison of some recent kits, as you can see their all about the same length the Primaris just has more armour plating.
Keep in mind both the Rubric and Alpha are somewhat modified but the arms are untouched.

>>54516095
Pariah recast, Szarekh the Silent King, Cryptek with 6th edition techno-magic.

>>54516095
I just want Azrael and Ezekiel to be updated damnit

>>54516115
>The Silent King
Oh you sweet child. He will never be a model in 40k just like the Emperor.

>Pariahs and Cryptek special models
Yes please

>>54516138
Wait a few years and they'll get the prime treatment for sure.

>>54515843
This.

>>54516095
Malys and/or Vect

whats the best way to cover the holes on the back of the chimera where the las array goes to turn it into a hell hound?

>>54516095
Remove Tycho. Better reason than ever. Primaris are out and he's been dead for decades in fluff. Give me a Primaris Sanguinary Guard leader. I forgot the dudes name. Like Brother Seraphius or something.

But those are all kinda pointless. I'd settle for Primaris versions of them all, especially Mephiston.

>>54516095
Death Guard:
A character GUO
A character Plaguecaster

What weapons can/should a chaplain dread take? I want one for my IH

>>54516095
Bring back the Parasite of Mortrex.

>>54516168
Fuel tanks

>>54516097
Neato!

>>54516183
>A character Plaguecaster
Both Typhus and Necrosis are basically already this.

Does the new codex for the IG are better than the previous one (I don't count the tempestus, because they're shit and never exist so they will never be in my armies)

>>54516200
i dont have any barrels of the proper size
i only have toy soldier barrels that look way too big

>>54515964

Unfortunatly both are 300 pnts of ok.

I would do a truckk with 10 Nobz or try a battlewagon to save points.

so to answer; Morkanaut of course!

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Should I wait for a new Great Unclean One or is it pretty much Glottkin or bust for the foreseeable future?

>>54516168
Fill them with terminators

>>54516215
They aren't proper DG though, at least in the lore.

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>>54516241
>Typhus is not proper death guard
U fookin way m8?

>>54516217
Cheap army men packs usually have oil drums about the right size to be fuel tanks.

Or just make your own, just some tube of the right diameter and thin strips to go around it will do.

>>54515901
Thanks
And what race do you play
>>54515955
Do you need Stormsurges and Tau knights to be competitive or are there other strats, do we have tactics on 1d yet

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>>54516009
This fucker maybe.

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>>54516141
He would make for a nice Necron Primaris Equivalent and is actually deeply rooted in the necron fluff.

I just think for the sake of balance that all factions should have some sort of Lord of War character like Robby G.

>>54516216
It's retardedly good. Everything is so cheap.

And fuck you, Scions are not only great, but super useful in this edition.

>>54516267
just checked my army men, the barrels were as wide as the turret

whats a good tube to use?

>>54516256
Typhus and Necrosius split from the main legion to do their own shit.

Typhus for one split because he was angry with Mortarion for being a sentimental and moping gaylord and Typhus wanted to actually do shit to please Nurgle.

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R8 & H8
Beginner Tau List

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [51 PL, 994pts] ++

+ HQ +

Cadre Fireblade [3 PL, 58pts]: Markerlight, 2x MV4 Shield Drone

Commander [7 PL, 160pts]: Cyclic ion blaster, 2x Fusion blaster, 2x MV4 Shield Drone, Shield generator

+ Troops +

Breacher Team [6 PL, 116pts]: DS8 Tactical Support Turret w/ Missile pod, 9x Fire Warrior, Fire Warrior Shas'ui, MV36 Guardian Drone, MV4 Shield Drone

Strike Team [7 PL, 124pts]: DS8 Tactical Support Turret w/ Missile pod, MV36 Guardian Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse rifle
. 11x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [7 PL, 124pts]: DS8 Tactical Support Turret w/ Missile pod, MV36 Guardian Drone
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse rifle
. 11x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

+ Fast Attack +

Pathfinder Team [7 PL, 120pts]: MB3 Recon Drone, MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone, MV33 Grav-inhibitor Drone
. 6x Pathfinder: 6x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Ion Rifle: 3x Ion rifle

Pathfinder Team [7 PL, 165pts]: MB3 Recon Drone, MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone, MV33 Grav-inhibitor Drone
. 6x Pathfinder: 6x Markerlight
. Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight
. 3x Pathfinder w/ Rail Rifle: 3x Rail rifle

+ Dedicated Transport +

TY7 Devilfish [7 PL, 127pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon

++ Total: [51 PL, 994pts] ++