Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1632: Twitch Plays Jumpchain Edition

>>54493405
>Title
What would a jumpchain livestream ever be like?

>>54493418
From what I remember of the Youtube Jump builds out there. Fun.

>>54493418
it'd be like watching a dude filling out paperwork.

>>54493418
Absolutely baffling to all bystanders.

>>54493418
I can give the chat at least

>AUTISTIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING!
>INVALID JUMPS
>BE MY WAIFU RED
>FUCK RED
>THE IRC ILLUMINATI WANTS TO KILL YOU
>I AM SPARTASHITS
>DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRGE!!!!!!!!
>Refreshing awesome content by [Insert Favorite Jumpmaker]
>[Insert Favorite Jumpmaker] is SBer! Burn them at the stake!

>>54493418
Lots of live shitposting like a YouTube comments section mixed with tumblr

>>54493430
>>54493431
>>54493432
>>54493453
>>54493460
Sounds fun, we should try it sometime.

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Going to upload this in about 30 minutes. Any last comments or concerns before I do?

Valalalalalalalalaleria, is the upgrade to the Rhinoceros Beetle in Jorge Joestar discounted to Gangsters?

>>54493469
Get a prolific jumpmaker like Valeria to just stream their desktop as she makes a jump and then have anon do live contributions.

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>>54493479
I'm concerned. Not about your jump, just in general. It's all quite alarming.

>>54493498
Well, this isn't your blog. Go to SB or the IRC of you want a hugbox.

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If Worm was your first jump what power would you grab? Just curious.

>>54493494
Yeyeyeyeyeeees it is.

>>54493531
Geist, probably. Flight, nigh-invulnerability. , invisibility, mind-control. A pretty solid package, all things said.

>>54493531
the enhance mastery power that lets me gain months of skill in hours of studying

>>54493536
Thaaaaaaaaank yoyoyoyoyoyou.

>>54493536
Have you even /tried/ to go to SB? You might like it there.

>>54493494
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>>54493566
Are you guys okay?

>>54493567
Have you even tried GETTING A FUCKING JOB?

>>54493531
Mathematical Analysis. Scales better than any other Thinker power. Enhanced Mastery's a Trump power for some retarded reason, and Reverse Engineering's the best Tinker power, but personally, I think intuitive mathematic aptitude that can be applied to literally any problem is the best choice, especially since bland Super-Genius perks are a dime-a-dozen.

>>54493567
She's made it pretty clear that she doesn't tolerate any of SB or their jumps.

Is there any perk that allows you to just get better at something through repeated practice/allows you to train anything? Like, I have a few skill-cap breaker perks, but the problem is... I don't actually have a way to train or get better at that level. Seriously, how does one train their stealth when they're literally so good they can stand right in front of someone and not be seen?

The Doormaker power so I can hang out on Earth Alpha and passing a message to Cauldron on how to deal with Scion.

>>54493531
Thanatos. Then I would probably spend a month just killing bugs while trying to work up the nerve to kill even stray animals, let alone people, with it.

>>54493615
You could... get experience earning perks... and allocate experience towards it? I'm sure we have some perks like that...

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>>54493479

I'd put a bit more information about the enemy and size scales. I've gone through a few pages of the quest and I still have no idea what a Type Zero looks like. He said he got a lot of cues from Muv Love among other places, so I'm expecting them to look something like infected thing from knights of Sidonia, but I have no idea.

Aside from that I just have comments on the lore itself. I mean 15KM effective range on a direct fire auto cannon? The best sniper I'm aware of has a maximum range of 4km. And, okay, uber technology and Valkyrie core assistance... fine but unless these things can go mach 5 or something combat would just boil down to long range artillery slugging matches.

But none of that is your fault, it just triggers my autism.

>>54493649
You had a question for you last thread: >>54492198

>>54493531
Quantum Evolution, it's adaptable and gives me decent odds of surviving whatever situations I might get into. Since it's a first jump, that seems important.

>>54493649
>Strike-cha
Hmm...something's not right, here...

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>>54493679
You saw nothing, move along citizen.

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For jumpers who went Kami, what did you choose for your Symbolic Links in Kamigawa?

>>54493705
Men In Black jump when?

Optional drawback to choose between the cartoon series or movie continuity when?

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>>54493663
The technology is pretty simple, on the level of modern day micro controllers. I can add it in if you want for like 100cp but if you've got some electronics perks and some forging ability to weld extra RCS modules and stuff you wouldn't really need it.

>>54493679
In theory I was going to post anonymously.

How many times have you forgotten that you had the perfect ability to resolve something, and instead brute forced it?

>>54493724
We already have one

>>54493724
There already is one, made by the same guy that made the Gantz jump I think

>>54493615
Order Of The Stick has Random Encounters:
>Random Encounters [300 CP, discount Adventurer] - Sometimes you have a skill you'd like to practice, but nobody to practice it with or against! With this, however, that won't be a problem – you can stumble across roaming monsters or NPC's with ease no matter where you go, and this can be toggled on and off at will. These encounters are always challenging, but not overwhelming.

>>54493729
It'd be much appreciated, but if you feel it ain't too necessary, then I'mma trust you on this one.

>>54493706
Arcia (aligned with white mana or however the fuck Gaunlet specified it went), Flame, Light, Music, Dance, Blood, Love, and Wild Magic.

Like I went hard trying to figure out how the feck to word it and I lost patience and went to make toast a few times.

Yknow what, let me do you one better. https://pastebin.com/QLg1i2hY - pretty much all the Kami shit I came up with for meself, just need to finish two Sub-Kamis that I'm not sure what direction I want to take with them yet.

>>54493706
Speaking of Kamigawa, does it happen early enough to stop the bullshit that is New Phyrexia. Elspeth getting fucked again seems like something a Jumper would want to stop.

>>54493797
Here's the thing though. Nobody actually cares.

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>>54493811
Here you go!

http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Timeline

>>54493479
Extremely minor spelling error on pg. 7 under Born Lucky "Managing to doge".

>>54493797
Nice work by the way just read through your pastebin!

>>54493797
>pastebin
Cool, mang.

>>54493849
>Managing to doge
Awesome. I always wanted to be in charge of the Merchant Republic.

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>>54493844
You care enough to reply to him every single time.

>>54493531
I'd just pick up the Reverse Engineering Tinker ability and the Tinker tech cache, sign on with the government, and send all my time inventing and studying new tech as far away from all the horribleness as possible.

>>54493737
All the times I tried to bribe or intimidate people when I forgot I had several charisma perks.

>>54493738
>>54493784
Really? Could either of you post it?

>>54493871
You should check out the Rise of Legends jump, then.

>>54493868
tell me I got the things correct that I ventured guesses on.

this entire thing was winging it in terms of comprehending MtG physics.

>>54493638
I worked at a slaughterhouse and cultivated petri dishes of microscopic animals to drop antibiotics into.

>>54493844
Do you ever shut up Dirge? How many times does you have to harass OAA until you're satisfied?

>>54493649
>fine but unless these things can go mach 5 or something combat would just boil down to long range artillery slugging matches.
They pretty much can, yes. And teleport, too. And combat without valks /is/ artillery slugging matches. Like, there was one bit from a lesson in the quest where it was mentioned that the preferred strategy for valks dealing with a low-AA Antagonist formation was just to call in ALL THE CRUISE MISSILES from friendlies, because they're incredibly easy to replace thanks to the fabrication tech while valks are not.

>>54493899
Not the right language to be Dirge. It's not paragraphs on paragraphs.

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Utawarerumono jump when?

>>54493915
Translation please.

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>>54493797
>https://pastebin.com/QLg1i2hY
Also I don't own a house. Ha.

>>54493881
Okay then give me sec to reread though it.
White Mana Alignment via Arcia is fine. You've got a good hold on the understanding needed for the powers and abilities, you went neither too high nor too low.

>>54493915
When you make it?

>>54493915
If you want a jump for your shit anime, then make it yourself.

>>54493927
That's unfortunately what it's called in the euros and states

I only know it cause it's a chain chronicle collab

>>54493927
They left it as that for the official english releases actually but it means 'The One Being Sung'

If I have the arrowhead from JJBA, and I'm able to get another Stand user's soul (via theft, trapping it, buying/tricking them out of it, diablerie or similar mechanism) would it be reasonable to gain a power from their Stand? Not like, a whole new Stand, but just an additional power? I posted this last thread and only got one reply. It basically amounted to "Only if that was a specific Stand power that you already had."

I'm trying to find a way to reconcile gravity manipulation and Stand Enforced contracts. I like them both but I can't really pick, so I'm trying to figure out a plot device or some rational that gets them together.

I'm trying to get this in a way that makes sense, but I don't know which one I want more. On one hand, Stand enforced Contracts seem like an interesting non-combat power that could be shored up with enslaving minions or picking Anubis or something, but I can think of a multitude of uses for controlling gravity, even if it's only in personal range. It's a tough choice since I really like both concepts. I also don't want to jump CoCo's or Jorge Joestar near JJBA in the same chain.

>>54493939
>When you make it?
It was expected of timmy, but I thought better of you.

>>54493944
>>54493945
Oh.

Well shit.

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>>54493955
Invoking rule one is a bad thing now?

>>54493955
Why are you talking about yourself?

>>54493966
Everyone goes through that confusion and I do not blame anyone for that

>>54493955
Mate, that's the usual response around here. You must be pretty new, huh?

Did you guys make sure to enjoy some smooth, soothing jizz while in Star Wars?

>>54493845
Oh wow, that's pretty much just in time to potentially stop Urza from not using the soul bomb and a whole host of terrible things. Sadly Xantcha still dies.

>>54493915
Why should anyone care about your low-power setting?

>>54493811
Yes, Kamigawa takes place fairly early in the MtG timeline. One of the characters in it, Toshiro Umezawa, is the founder of Clan Umezawa on the main plane of Dominaria, after being transported there in the climax of the arc. There's no indication that his cross-planar transport also involved time travel. Three hundred years after his arrival there, his descendant would kill Nicol Bolas (the first time, Bolas dies and comes back to life a lot). A hundred and fifty years after that is when Mirrodin gets infected with glistening oil. So you've got four hundred and fifty years to head the problem off. Heck, regular Phyrexia is still around during the events of Kamigawa, go nuke Yawgmoth. The only problem you'll face is that Kamigawa is supposed to be very distant from other planes, hyperdimensionally-speaking, making it hard to get to and from the rest of the MtG multiverse.

>>54493939
Can Symbolic Links be improved in any way? Like through a stronger soul, things that enhance magic, etc.?

>>54493955
Oh wait! I just went and looked it up and you might be thinking of the VN when most of the English speakers around here are thinking of the anime. Is that what you're driving at?

>>54493992
Welll... >>54493998 Yeah that.

>>54493914
It's definitely Dirge. The only person that hates OAA and harasses him to this degree is Dirge. Dirge doesn't always write in paragraphs.

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>>54493991
You meant jazz, right?

>>54494034
Just checking if you saw >>54471707

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>>54493879
Here.

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>>54494069
No anon, it's jizz.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jizz

My favorite instrument is the jizz-box.

>>54494094
I'd hardly call something that's been languishing in the WIP folder for who even knows how long a proper jump.

>>54493944
Wasn't somebody making Chain Chronicles as a jump? Have them do Utawarerumono then if anon is too lazy

>>54493947
It seems more likely to me that you'd be able to command their Stand IF you could also command their soul.

Worst comes to worst, there's nothing forbidding you from making the Stand power assimilation a specific sub-ability of your contract thing. Could even have a reason for throwing youeself into canon: C-Moon has some pretty cool gravity powers. Jumping Jack Flash too, maybe? I don't remember if he could turn off gravity or remove all the air in a room.

>>54493418
I remember watching one of these, actually. A guy was live streaming his making a character for a VtR game, and started playing out his plot, on his own. It was really neat, actually. I can't find the stream, though.

It was this guy, I found him from these clan-based monologs. They're pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLszUFnoojM

>Go to A Practical Guide to Evil, buy a ton of the mindrape for the greater Good repentance Swords.

>Go to Warhammer 40k Commaragh, summon the angel of contrition in the most heavily populated area of Dark Eldar that you can. The Dark Eldar caught in the range now become the Greater Good Eldar and cause a giant civil war. Double points if Jumper nets anyone important in the range of the angel.

>After that's finished take the mindrape swords and go around the entire galaxy using it on everyone. Plant one on Terra, another in a super heavily crowded Hive, Eldar Craftworld, Ork Waagh, and also a Chaos Warband.

>Profit???

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>>54494118
I think we ended up joking about it but that is like

Literally 4 years of characters/continents/weird things to cover, its the same issue with almost every mobile game ever Also did you know there was a P5 collab? I didnt roll anyone then

>>54494117
It's only there because Dirge harassed the jumpmaker and called it not well received even though people made builds for it. https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/50522612/#50524214
Knowing his lying ass, he was just spreading shit so that Brutus wouldn't move it to complete.

>>54494150
There was an anon that wanted to make a gacha jump. Have them do it. I have no clue what Chain Chronicle is outside of gacha, I just remember somebody talking about making it into a jump.

>>54494153
>So an idiot posts, even though the post he quotes directly then links to http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/50291119/#q50296954

>Whoever made it also changed this in the WIP googledocs link he posted.
>So it's outdated, probably not uploaded by the creator, and feels more like a WIP with a bunch of stuff that should really be changed as was said by others in the thread when the WIP link was put in thread.

>Pretty threadbare and only covers the first movie. Kinda a shame.

>This isn't good at all. Work on it more before putting it on the drive.

Can't even fucking lie correctly, you fucking idiot.

>>54494198
NUUUU BUT DIRGE MUH DIRGE COMPLEX AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>54494213
I know, right?

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>>54494028
Symbolic Links allows you to tap into minor powers via a link to the symbol itself. So no those wouldn't work. Maybe something that enhanced your connections to other concepts/lands/etc. but we actually have a very small amount of druid/kami like powers in Jumpchain.

>>54494077
I did not indeed and the answer to that is /vast/ like it's intended to be 40 km^2 but i got sidetracked and didn't post the rewrite... speaking of...

>>54494153
Given that unapproved jumps get uploaded to the drive and stay there even after they're called out, I find this hard to believe.

>>54493531
Either this >>54493879
or get Thantos and somehow contact Cauldron, possibly through Coil.
I'd start working with them on the condition that they only give the Vials to clinically braindead people, and that I'd only kill them if the Vial didn't heal them.
Or maybe work with Blasto and start covertly stealing DNA samples from Parahumans so that we can clone vegetable versions of them for Thanatos to slaughter. This one's less likely to work, what with trigger events being so complicated and all, but it's less dangerous (and morally reprehensible) than siding with Cauldron.

>>54493531
Doormaker, then go to the most distant and uninhabited world I can find. Scion's less likely to go after a world with only one person on it.

>>54494198
I don't see where I lied. If it wasn't for Dirge spreading vitriol the jump would have been accepted.

>>54494243
>Given that unapproved jumps get uploaded to the drive and stay there even after they're called out
You mean Dirge's so called jumps?

Are you there Heavens/Digger? I have a question about the Ex-Aid wip

>>54493479
I'd appreciate some context for the upper limits of the valkyrie frame and it's weaponry. If you shoot something with heavy particle projector, a laser, or a hyper velocity cannon, how much damage will it do? How fast, strong, and durable are in your frame when you start out? If you've been using it for decades?
That sort of thing.

>>54494290
>Dirge spreading vitriol

Nut up and quote these "vitriolic" posts for me, you daft cunt.

Oh wait. You can't, because your complex is making you cash checks that your brain can't cash.

>>54494306
Let me beat him to the punch, because that thread indicates nothing.

>"Oddly enough I'm not sure if the maker just disappeared entirely, since last time this happened they also did not respond to any of the comments, and afterwards people could not get a hold of him either. Comments from the last time this happened suggests that the pdf itself might be outdated now, so maybe removing it completely is merited, but since I don't have the google docs link, I have no clue myself. Somebody evidently does though, since they were the ones who commented on it."

Only relevant post on it.

Yeah, anon's being a cunt.

>>54494290
According to the post you linked, the guy who posted it to the thread wasn't even the guy who made the jump. That guy has never even bothered to talk on this thread. No wonder nobody knew we had a MIB jump, if even the creator didn't feel the need to tell anyone about it.

>>54494306
>>54494329
>>54494339
NOOOOOO BUT MY DIRGE COMPLEX IS JUSTFIED WHY WON'T YOU BELIEVE ME DDD:::

Damn it, I can't get it to sound whiny enough to emulate him.

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>>54494343
It's okay, anon. You tried.

>>54494120
I just finished part four, so I haven't gotten through Vento Aureo or Stone Ocean

I imagine that relinquishing a Stand via contract is something that can be done, if the conditions are met. The way I imagined the power was that both parties need to enter the contract willingly (no domination, duress, mind control etc.) and the Stand compels (or in this case, facilitates) that transfer. The Stand can backfire on me if I'm thwarted, enabling whatever consequence the contract details for me. Contracts must be relatively even sided. The Stand will create a perfectly legible paper contract that must be signed by both parties, and the contract is binding as long as the signature remains on the paper.

I was also thinking a minor power for verbal agreements, but limited in scope and power, and can only affect one person at a time. As for outright stealing souls, In the case of buying or enslaving them, I'd probably be able to do something. I'd imagine if I was dealing with a WoD vampire, diablerizing would add some measure of the power to my Stand permanently, at the cost of deriving no other discipline or skill benefit (though increasing the relevant BP/Generation stat appropriately.) and the associated drawbacks.

Does that sound fair enough? I want the contract Stand to be unwieldy and not effective in combat and the other party needs to know exactly what they're getting into.

On gravity, I was mostly thinking of changing which way gravity works for me to enable flight, drastically increasing gravity when I strike at the moment of impact to increase damage dealt, resistance training in high gravity DBZ style. I'm trying to think of Awakened/Requiem powers, but all I have so far is manipulating other fundamental forces and maybe messing around with relativity to increase speed. I don't know if that's how C-moon or Made in Heaven works, but I don't really understand relativity well enough to make the call.

>>54494329
>namefag calling out an anon jumpmaker for dropping the jump and being irresponsible.
>namefag accusing anon of not responding to feedback without any proof.
>namefag suggesting the jump should be removed without even asking the jumpmaker.
That's good old Dirge being a jackass and spreading his hate for jumpchain as usual. Why did he even have his trip on? Was he busy shitposting on OAA again?

>>54494343
You can't sound as whiny as the shitposter until you're massively fat, sleep deprived, unbathed, covered in greasy sweat, autistic, retarded, angry, spiteful, sociopathic, and compulsively masturbating, then waste all of your 'good material' three years ago and run off of fumes until now.

>>54494380
The amount of mental gymnastics you had to make to even create this post astounds me.

Did you escape a mental asylum?

>>54494380
Submit proof that none of those three things you greentexted are true and maybe you'll be believable.

Go on. I'm waiting. Come up with some proof. Put your fucking money where your chin-fat is.

>>54494343
You emulate the SB white knight complex pretty well. Just let him shit on Dirge. Better than having him pester a jumpmaker that actually matters.

>>54494371
If I understood part 6 right Gravity is more about how it pulls people together.

>>54494427
Realizing his approach once doesn't work, the anon struggles to change his tactics.

>>54494235
Ah, a shame. Thanks anyway.

>>54494424
Go ask the IRC for what he did to Red and OAA. It doesn't take a genius to see that he was only around to stir shit up, and the post you greentexted has absolutely no proof at all. Just speculation that cost us a jump.

>>54494094
Huh, yeah, this definitely needs some work. Thanks anyway anon.

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>>54494460
No problem!

>>54494462
PROOF, MOTHERFUCKER.

Proof that the MIB jumpmaker hadn't disappeared. Proof that he responded to feedback. Proof that he's fucking still around.

WHERE. IS. YOUR. PROOF. YOU DAFT CUNT.

How do you write your jump /jc i made it like a timeline

>>54494462
>IT'S A HUEG KUNSPEERUHSEE!
>Got any proof?
>I, UH, IT'S… UH, G-GO ASK DA IRC!
Typical.

>>54494442
lol "change his tactics". He doesn't need to change his tactics if you're all going to bite either way. I just don't see what's so important about defending a SBer's "reputation", because I guess that's how your justifying this response shitposting when multiple people have told all of you to just fucking LET HIM ROT.

HOW FUCKING DENSE ARE YOU PEOPLE? OR DO YOU JUST LIKE BITING BAIT?

>>54494528
>OR DO YOU JUST LIKE BITING BAIT?

Welcome to /jc/, may I take your order?

>>54494380
I think you have a dissociative personality disorder.

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>>54494528

>>54494528
See, this right here? Amateur attempt at reverse psychology. Try to present yourself as working against yourself, but you can't keep yourself from using that little buzzword.

"SBer." It doesn't even MEAN anything anymore. Even when you're pretending to work against yourself, you're transparent.

I really wish anything more interesting than this was going on right now.

>>54494404
He could be posting from one, some patients get internet access. Clearly it's not good for his mental health and his doctor needs to be informed.

>>54494528
They chose Dirge as their hill to die on, because they can't admit that they're wrong and their namefag isn't a shitter, even though he's never done anything but shit on the people who tried to support him, and talk shit about how bad jumpchain is.

[RAGE AND LOUD NOISES]

>>54494508
I comment on my profile and decisions within it.

>>54494565
[smug anime reaction image]

>>54494548
I don't think you know what the diagnosis of that actually means anon.

>>54494554
You do realize that SBer hasn't changed in meaning just because SB has a jumpchain community right? It still means a person who comes from SB. What do you want to call him, a redditor? A tumblerite? Does he even go to those places?

>>54494595
I think I do, the way you keep blaming others for your own actions could easily be a sign that you are dissociated.

>>54494558
Here you go again, implying you care about people even though you'll just go from shitting on Dirge to shitting on Red again. Or OAA. or Yorokonde. You don't care who your target is, just so long as there's outrage.

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>>54494579

Reminder that this wouldn't happen if we were over on /qst/, due to post IDs.

Or if we made a separate forum.

>>54493998
How would Kamigawa being "far" interact with something like the mother box from Injustice? Or like Doormaker?

>>54494556
You can stop pretending to work against yourself already.

>>54494609
STOP POSTING YOUR FURSHIT! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>54494615
I imagine the same way it does for planeswalking: It would take more energy to get to and from it, and take longer to "plot a course" and open the pathway.

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What's there to do in KH besides boop Heartless?

>>54494637
Save the Nobodies from Xemnas' lies and Sora's genocidal rampage.

So what magics do you think would be good for a living sword to have, if its goal was to be the best possible sword for its wielder? I was thinking space-warping magic, so it could shorten distances to strike at range (instead of shooting blasts and essentially being a very awkwardly-shaped gun), or phase through objects so it could ignore armor or selectively cut only specific parts of a thing. There have to be others, though. Any ideas? Maybe something to do with oaths and binding for enforcing duels? I don't know.

>>54494649
I like sword beams personally.

>>54494617
You can stop pretending to work against yourself already.

>>54494614
Reminder that CYOA's are bannable on /qst/ and making a separate forum was the nail in Magical Realm's coffin.

>>54494643
Is it really genocide if what's dying is neither a species nor an ethnicity? I mean, they're humans of various ethnic origins, they just don't have Hearts. It's serial murder, genocide is too strong a word.

Yes, serial murder is still wrong, but genocide implies far too much.

>>54494659
Who?

>>54494600
Since you've brought up something that I actually studied, here's a bit of trivia. What you're describing is projection and what you're trying to suggest is subconscious denial. Neither of those are key symptoms of DID or MPD for that matter. This doesn't change no matter what medication you're using to suppress the patient.

Unlike what the media likes to say, DID and MPD patients don't just magically flick a switch and change personalities. If you're going to be an armchair doctor I hope you're actually studying in med.

>>54493536
Query about the Soul Eater.

Several times you've referred to the Seven Sins clones as "summons". Do they count as such for necessary purposes?

>>54494655
Are you the same anon that was trying to get Val to take Dirge's jumps? When will you learn that repeating your posts over and over won't make a difference.

>>54494676
Either way, Sora is a jerk.

Sora kills Nobodies in the mistaken impression that they don't matter, and that they're essentially no different from Heartless. Xemnas tells Nobodies that they can only regain their hearts from Kingdom Hearts. But the truth is, experiences and contact with people will cause a Nobody to regrow a heart of its own, and thus be complete. Murdering them is potentially depriving them of this, because while a dead Nobody CAN come back to life as a complete person, it requires their heartless to have been slayed beforehand. Else they're stuck dead.

>>54494705
I...wouldn't say so any more then shadow clones in Naruto do. It's more a shorthand I guess?

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>>54494637
Save Nobodies, some of whom are innocent and misguided. Not all of them, though. Some of them are right bastards.
Also you can visit various Disney worlds, that's pretty fun, although some of them will be modified from their canon counterparts.

If you get to Agrabah before Sora completes his first run through it, you can actually snag Genie and make some wishes, then just hand him off back to Sora/Aladdin and the plot will continue as normal.
In fact, what you should REALLY do is tell Sora and Donald and Goofy to each make some wishes before handing the lamp off back to Aladdin to free the damn Genie, because otherwise they won't, and it's really a wasted opportunity for everyone.
Like, jesus, Sora, I get it if you don't want to send the Genie off on some bigass quest or something that would prevent his freedom, but you could at least ask for some more money or a new keychain or something, come on.

>>54494707
>it requires their heartless to have been slayed beforehand.

Then get to it, start murdering ALL of the monsters.

>>54494725
There's like galaxies worth of heartless, dude

>>54494706
Wew. I almost didn't realize this was bait, so props for that, I guess.

>>54494707
It's not something that he can help, because he's just playing his part in destiny. Everything in Kingdom Hearts was foretold before the Keyblade Wars. There's no resolution here unless all the pieces fall into place again and the Black Box is opened.

>>54494690
A friend of mine has DID. He once told me that the only time he really felt like it was multiple personalities in one person was actually when he first got on his meds. Something about it making him more aware of the shifts in his thinking, so it felt more alien when he was acting on it. I guess it's one of those weird things like how you're more at risk of suicide after you take antidepressants, because you're capable of taking initiative again.

>>54494678
An old CYOA RP, pre-/jc/. Some of the old guard were in it, and this was why the no-potatoes rule came about. They knew exactly what happened when CYOA PvP and inter-realm arguments started happening.

>>54494737
Then it's time for a good ol' PURGE.

>>54494720
Sora should wish for better fashion sense.

>>54494775
That would be a very useful wish.

I'm pretty sure his feet are actually that fucking huge, though.

>>54494758
The meds prescribed for DID varies from case to case, and in some cases I've had doctors comment that it's almost a guessing game, because between depressants, anti-depressants, and anti-psychotics, there are so many drugs with potential side effects that each patient needs to be aware enough to actually report back to the doctor if they feel like they need to change their drug.

Nine times out of ten, you can't expect the patient to know this. So whether they get the right drug to suppress their symptoms without causing side effects is a matter of chance. This isn't even considering the large number of cases that don't get diagnosed, because the symptoms can overlap with so many other mental conditions. I still hear profs insisting that DID doesn't actually exist and MPD claims are just hoaxes from people desperate for attention.

>>54494775
It wouldn't work. Kingdom Hearts exists in a universe designed by Tetsuya Nomura. It has no context for what good fashion sense looks like. It's a wish-granting plot device, not god. There are some things even it can't do.

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>>54494295

the light inside has gone out for a bit but I still work

what's up

>>54494814
He has been on a number of prescriptions over the course of his life, yeah. He's doing pretty good on his current batch, though. I'm happy for him, he hasn't has any issues in a couple years.

>>54494718
Ah, alright. Thanks!

>>54494822
Damn, just imagine. The entire universe runs off that fashion sense. So if you wished for a better fashion sense, your sense of fashion would fall more in line with Kingdom Hearts. The fucking horror.

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>>54494707
Won't the resulting reformed human have all the memories of the nobody in question? So in reality nothing of value would be lost once they reform.

>Sora is a jerk
You can't blame him for doing his job senpai. They had to be stopped somehow and if he didn't they would have suffered a far worse identity death at the hands of Xemnas. A death that not even being reformed as a human from being mercy killed would fix. Also nobody told him shit and the only other person who had any amount of knowledge on the matter wanted them all 'dead' too.

>>54494371
Since stands are parts of the soul, your stands will probably fuse, though I remember Pucci saying that there is a certain limit of stands one person has before they die (Though it probably came from a novel that its canonicity is dubious)

As for gravity, this is more of a Headcanon/Theory but in the Jojo universe Fate>=Gravity>Time and to obtain a power of gravity, you need to break free from another important force: Time. (Spoiler for part 6)Pucci managed to get around this by fusing with the revived body of Dio who had a stand capable of breaking free of the limitations of time. Many villains obtain a time-related power because evil souls have more powerful stands. Pucci then went to a Cape Canaveral where it is easy to break free from gravity and obtained the power to control fate.

Also how many people here have read the manga?

>>54494830
What happens if I put the Proto Chronicle Gashat in one of the slots of the gamer driver?

>>54494830
Combining the game company Executives get for a capstone with the not-Umbrella from Resident Evil. Best idea or best idea?

>>54494837
DID is pretty much what a lot of my other doctor friends would consider a nightmare case. Not because they don't like the patients or anything, but because there are so many factors that contribute to the problem especially in patients that aren't children. Even after reviewing the entire medical history there's still a good chance the patient ends up getting screwed over by one wrong prescription with the best intentions.

It gets even worse when patients will self diagnose themselves and try to self medicate.

>>54494887
IF they reform. Again, the issue is that you need to kill the heartless first. It's basically a crapshoot.

>>54494889

That's a great question. The closest we get to this actually happening from what I can tell is Chronicle + Perfect Speciment + Bugvisor 2 = Chronos

I think you'd get a form that looks like a Proto Chronos, honestly. I don't think it'd do much for it except look cooler and give you slightly higher base specs I'd think

>>54494892
Dude, GENM is basically the Umbrella of Video Games. Right down to the god complex leader simply using it as a tool for his ambitions that have nothing to do with the company's stated purpose

It'd literally be the same company, just bigger and now with an electronic arts-ish department

>>54494637
Be a Heartless. It's what I did.

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>>54494898
>IF they reform
Yeah it's a chance some are willing to make rather than them suffering incredibly difficult to fix identity death.

You are right about the crapshoot part it was pure chance that everyone from the organization managed to reform. [In the same place they got split at no less which opens up an even larger can of worms about all the people that managed to reform] KH has a lot of plot contrivance. Especially the 'no death' bullshit.

>>54494997
>Everyone from the organization
It's actually just 3-6, and 8. 1 IS Xemnas, 2 and 7 are now Xemnas clones, 9-12's human forms have never been shown so they might have died permanently, and 13-14 are stuck inside Sora (though it's implied they'll be able to be their own person post 3.)

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fuck it, can't sleep, time for crime with Phantom Jumper

>1 week after our "break" in the warehouse began, we were summoned to the Velvet Room, or some new version of it. I was still in chains, but at the defendant's chair in a courthouse. The jury seats were taken up by my friends, Philemon seemed ready to speak as my lawyer, and the judge... Jump-Chan

>The embodiment of mankind's goodness was in a heated debate with our captor, something about CP budget, whatever that meant. They seemed to reach an agreement when Philemon turned away and handed me a briefcase.

>"You'll get the rest once things have started" The moment I touched the briefcase I began to slip away

>Panic and splendor, the feeling in the pit of my stomach knowing terra firma is well and truly gone

Jump 1: Jojo

>>54494997
There's plenty of death, it's just that the current timeline hasn't hit the point where the pieces have been assembled to start anything major.

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>>54494845
Shit. Good point.

>>54494889
>Stands are a part of the soul
>Stands will probably fuse
That's the answer I was thinking of. Glad somebody else agrees. I wasn't looking to cherry pick answers. It was something I was genuinely curious about.
>Pucci spouting bullshit about stand limits
Probably not a problem by the time I'm devouring enemy souls en mass. I imagine I'll have some way of containing all of them. I'd probably say that the powers sort of merge instead of gaining a second Stand.
>Fate Gravity and time
Maybe I'll retool or assimilate those Stands.

Thanks for the input, anon.

>>54495097
>Going from Persona 5 to JoJo
Oh, THIS is going to be fun!

>>54495157
Eh, Persona is just JoJo with less posing and more consistency in Stand powers, it'll be fine.

>>54495186
Nah, you misunderstand me. Persona 5's cast is already super over the top, posing and hamming it up. Now, imagine a Native Jumper from Persona 5 going to JoJo for their first jump. It's going to be fantastic.

>>54495186
Also more fuck God. Can't forget Jaanese hatred of religion in their JRPG's all of a sudden

>>54495232
No, I get it. I'm just saying, it will be an escalation but it's not going to be completely unfamiliar. Like you said, Persona 5 is already pretty over the top.

>>54495243
>all of a sudden
It's been a thing for a while now, really.

>>54495270
Eh, fair enough.

>>54495243
>One game
>Japanese hatred of religion
You must not play very many JRPGs do you?

I'm tentatively claiming the Finno-Korean Hyperwar jump to work on.

>>54493479
>Any last comments or concerns before I do?
Godspeed, you glorious bastard.

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>>54495303
>claiming the Finno-Korean Hyperwar jump
...are you serious?

>>54495303
I will eternally love you if you made it.

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How snek are you, /jc/?

>>54495286
Have you played any final fantasy game?

>>54495303
I hope you were actually on /his/ when we made it, because we've lost most of the actual threads where people put the history together and the wiki is fucking bare compared to the old threads.

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>>54495286
Er, actually it's more of a fact that they are much more comfortable with having a 'monotheist' being well being the bad guy.

Examples: Silent Hill, Shin Megami Tensei, Demon Souls, Makai Toshi SaGa (Final Fantsy Legends), Alundra, Breath of Fire, Shadow Hearts, Dragons Quest 7 & 9, Drakengard, Final Fantasy as a franchise does it fairly often, and more.

>>54495341
Is FF the only JRPG series you know? Because for every game where you try to cite its use of "fuck God" as a clear sign that the Japanese hate religion, there's probably a dozen where God plays no part at all, and religion is just a convenient tool at best.

I might as well ask you whether you played Ys, Kiseki, DQ, SN, Conception, Spectral Force, Rayearth, and others if you're going to throw Final Fantasy into the mix.

>>54495377
And even then it's largely just because Judeo-Christian religions aren't terribly well known in Japan, so they're exotic to them. Plus, if you know absolutely nothing about Christianity other than the most basic stuff, it's a pretty fucking metal theme to go with for your villains. You've got a implement of torture for your holy symbol, an all-powerful being judging humanity from on high, all sorts of weird monsters in the various types of angels, fanaticism and fervor, attempts to claim all mankind's souls for their master...it's great stuff if you strip it of any actual meaning.

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>>54495419
I know right? I mean the part where Jeus goes down into Hell to steal and seal it with the Keys that the DEMONS APPARENTLY HAD THE WHOLE TIME was only a fight scene from going full anime on me.

No offense ment to the practitioners but the Bible is a genealogy/mythology/true story/etc. book collection chock full of grandiose and powerful imagery that fits with the themes you'd look for to sell a product, which going by the sales per year has been doing the Bible good work for the last several hundred years.

>>54495419
Japan was arguably the slowest to adopt Christianity and even nowadays there are a lot of traditional folks who don't tolerate it very well, but there are definitely far more Christians nowadays than before to the point where it does become a talking point in some political discourse due to the cultural influence.

It's what makes comments like >>54495377 >>54495243 really bizarre, because it's like they seriously believe that a bunch of video games reflects the culture of the nation somehow.

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>>54495419
This. Japan just doesn't know a lot about Christianity, and they're hilariously off in their own little bubble, so they look at it and think "oh that looks cool!", and then do weird shit while missing a lot of context. Also, heavenly sky demons are totally metal for villains.

I'm reminded of that quote from the guy who made Evangelion, where he was like, "Well, we didn't really know much about Christianity... we just thought it made for cool imagery."
That's Japan.

>>54495329
I was a Viper in X-Com 2, so pretty snek.

I even kept working for ADVENT, mostly BECAUSE I was snek and the X-Com forces tend to not be very accepting of snek. Like. At all.
Their loss, really.

>>54495468
Eh, aren't there only a couple thousand Christians on the entire island? Compare that to China, where there are millions of Christians and the religion is growing so fast its eclipsed major religious minorities that have been present/tolerated in China for centuries.

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>>54495468
I said it's 'more comfortable' not that it's common to their culture. I know and understand that a game, even a list of them, doesn't reflect the cultural identity of a nation of people.

Just wanted to put that out there.

>>54495419
It's pretty metal even without stripping it of all meaning, Revelations especially. There's an invisible war going on between eldritch abominations that have existed since the dawn of time over the fate of the universe, a war between all that is good and all that is evil. And on top of all this is an eldritch abomination beyond time, beyond space, incomprehensible and all powerful, all knowing. An infinite being that created all that is. It just so happens that he's benevolent, and actually loves humanity.

And then you have Revelations, in which what is basically a dystopia that's run by the Source of All Evil is formed, with the Wrath of God striking it with all sorts of crazy natural disasters ranging from the sea turning to blood to legions of scorpion-lion-knights rampaging. Ending with a massive final battle, the Devil getting thrown into a bottomless pit, and then him eventually returning with a massive army only to be curbstomped and thrown into a Lake of Fire along with Death itself. It's madness.

>>54495507
You forgot the Devil turning into a giant world-destroying dragon and the Horsemen. Also Wormwood, because a giant meteor hitting the planet is also notable.

>>54495468
Oh, I'm aware that Christianity is known in Japan. I'm not saying it's some weird foreign religion that they have no idea about. And you're right, it is a cultural influence. But it's not a huge one, not yet, which is why it's such great fodder for works of fiction. Your average Japanese person knows enough about Christianity to recognize the terms but not enough for them to not feel kind of exotic, still. It's a nice blend of the familiar and the strange. It's like an American with Buddhism or Hinduism.

>>54495507
This is also true. I kind of feel like the graph of religious knowledge versus religious awesomeness is U-shaped, for Christianity. If you know very little about it, it's interesting because of how exotic it is. If you know a medium amount about it, it's mundane and boring. But then if you go into the deep details of the faith and lore, there's so much cool stuff.

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>when you realize that the US dropped the "Rugby" from "Rugby Football," but everyone else dropped the "Football"
>when you realize that "Soccer" comes from "Asoccer" comes from "Association Football," and the US kept the second nickname while everyone else switched again to just calling it "Football" because they dropped the "Football" part from Rugby's name

This is dumb, what're some good sports you can play during the Chain?

All this talk of religion reminds me: Whatever happened to GenesisAnon?

>>54495490
There's definitely more than a couple thousand. Probably more than a couple thousand in Tokyo Prefecture alone. You'd have to bring up census numbers to check, and as far as I remember, stats Japan doesn't do census collection on religion and release the data publically. You can check yourself here http://www.stat.go.jp/data/topics/index.htm. Even looking at the individual statistics topics made yearly from Heisei 28 and prior to that, I'm not seeing anything related to religion. (We're in Heisei 29 right now)

China saw a large explosion in Christianity because Christianity was an easy way to get rich. It's not all that much different from Singapore, just the scale is different due to the population.

>>54495550
Blitzball.

>>54495550
Tankery, from Girls Und Panzer. I support any sport that involves cannonfire that is only not fatal to the players because armor technology has advanced immensely since the time those guns were built.

>>54495520
That too. Revelations is like fifty different apocalypses rolled into one package.

>>54495530
That's very true. Sadly, most people tend to be in the middle ground, which is a shame because there actually is a lot of cool stuff in there.

>>54495574
On a similar note, Drownball from 8-Bit Theater. The goal is to drown. Though if any player survives, somehow, they win by default. You'd think it would be last place, but nope.

>>54495558
Making very slow progress. He was around...about a few weeks ago, I think? And there still wasn't much there. What he had looked good, though.

>>54495550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxu248aD6PY

http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-2206

Both are viable options for the Sports jump, IIRC.

>>54495317
It's entirely possible I'll fail.

>>54495354
Sadly no, but I'm trawling archives and shit for the raw stuff. If there's shit you want in it, chime in.

I need to control someone's mind at a great distance, how do I do that?

>>54495645
Telepathy.

>>54495611
>Sadly no, but I'm trawling archives and shit for the raw stuff.
Good fucking luck with that, especially considering we had an /int/ fag back in the day who properly influenced the Keisarillisen Suomen to begin with. The easy stuff like the Giza Array activation and the Korean continental unification should be still on the wiki, but I doubt you'll find anything like the first arrival of the Jedi or why the fuck Suomi Kreikka got overrun when the Koreans moved West. Are you going to add in Prediluvian Babylon as well, or are you just sticking to the Kangdoms? Because I think a lot of people would be interested in the Singularity advancement just before Babylon fell.

>>54495645
How invasive a procedure are you willing to work with? Will you have access to this person ahead of time, or do you need to do it without warning?

>>54495670
I can't physically touch them, but I can deal with a bit of preparation time. I know their True Name and have access to a fragment of their soul, if that helps.

>>54495611
>Sadly no, but I'm trawling archives and shit for the raw stuff.
Why are you doing it, then? Is this meme thing really that interesting, or are you looking to push your jumpmaking skills?

>>54495645
Who?

>>54495693
No one of particular importance, a Wizard with delusions of grandeur who has proved to be a little too slippery for me to meet face to face.

>>54495688
There's nostalgia for those of us who witnessed the legend of /his/, especially considering how some of us actually watched the tv show that formed the historic roots for the Hwan Empire.

Korean television has some absolute gems when they invite crack theorists on.

>>54495685
Well, if you have their True Name, a standard binding ritual should do the job. That's a powerful thing, in sympathetic magic (technically contagious magic, too). Pretty good arcane linkage. There are a lot of places you could get magic that keys off of that. Exalted, Inheritance Trilogy, Dresden Files (though that's dark magic, there), the GURPS jumps, the World of Darkness jumps, any of our DC or Marvel properties though obviously the magic-focused ones would be preferable...plenty of others, too, I'm just too lazy to hunt them all down. Point is, if you've got their True Name it shouldn't be hard to ensorcel them, even at a distance. I'm not really sure why you need help with this, to be honest, you've got the most important thing already. Everything else is just style points.

>>54495668
Depends how much I find that. I've got a bunch of tentative stuff for three double perk lines, might make it four.

>>54495688
Just felt like it, really. Jumpmaking skills need some more work and I didn't want a particularly serious one.

>>54495726
As another anon. Depending on if you go fluffwise in D&D Truenaming is either literally reality warping in nature or shit because of how it scales.

>>54495726
Inheritance books, huh. That can be done out of the target's earshot?

>>54495744
The words only need be heard by the world in most cases.

>>54495730
Good luck with the power levels though. If you're throwing in Lemuria tech into the mix, dimension warping is going to be hard to balance against even with the planet arrays on the other side.

>>54495750
Crap, that magic system would require me to use the Ancient Language though. Is there a way to find the True Name of someone who doesn't know it?

Besides Mage, where are some good places to get anti-anti-magic?

>>54495756
Didn't someone say something about it's own version of Demonbane?

>>54495776
>its own version of Demonbane
I'VE MADE A TERRIBLE MISTAKE

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>>54495479
If anything Xcom was overly accepting of snek

>>54495784
Yeah, you don't yet have the thread presence that Val uses to slip that shit through.

>>54495776
>>54495784
Pretty sure you're getting it confused with some fanfic Heavens was talking about last thread.

>>54495776
No. At the peak of the empire expansion before the war actually started, Lemuria's influence was enough that they had the military capacity to basically cleanse the space within the solar system which later led to the complete destruction of the Imperial Fleet, but they relied on a massive army. Lemuria pulled away when it became clear that the war was lost so they were spared when Kim fired the Mass Autism Array. The Lemurians presumably saw Earth as just a potential colony since the Sol Division wasn't particularly large at only a couple million, but they never intervened after that.

Pre-Diluvian Babylon never reached the same level of tech that the Lemurians had, and Hwan had the ability to influence the flow of time anyways, hence why SNSD became a crucial factor when the Hwan Civil War took place.

The Jedi detachment pretty much got spanked by the Lemurians though.

>>54495855
I thought this was just some meme wikipedia war paste thing. Holy crap.

>>54495870
Nah Alternate History is one hell of a drug mang. /his made up the entire Finno-Korean Hyperwar and only some of it's information remains.

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>>54495097
Background: Rising Stars, Explorer, 20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdahP278OSM
>The familiar radio jingle brought me back to reality. I had been staring out of a nearby window, relieved to be back in S-city after fieldwork was over.

>Soon I'd be out of the university and get to spend some time back home in Mori- wait... this isn't right. I try to remember what bro was up to, but aren't I an only child? W-when the hell did I even decide to become an anthropology student? I'd all but given up on university after getting a record... the pain in my head is building, it feels like my face is being crushed by this damn domino mask. Wait, what?

>I tear off the mask, and I'm Akari Kurusu again. Fantômas's presence behind me gives a morbid sort of comfort, along with my Phantom Theives outfit (couldn't summon that in the normal world before, odd, but at least no one is watching).

>A small exertion of will, like flexing a muscle, and the familiar weight of my rifle returned. A prize from the shadow war, rather than one of Iwai's creations, the weapon looked more like an art piece than military hardware. The entire of the gun looked like it was a single piece of metal, shapes flowing into each other seamlessly. Still, I knew from experience that both the bullets and the bayonet could tear through steel or shadows easily.

>I retrieve the butterfly pendant hanging from the barrel, dismiss my weapons and outfit, and begin packing. I didn't know where the rest of the crew were, but I figured following the action would do the trick. In the meantime, a quiet town like Morioh seemed like a good place to set up shop and get my bearings.

aaaaaaand now I'm ready to sleep, continue writeup later today.

>>54495870
If you've never seen a /tg/ worldbuilding thread spiral out of control, the /his/ Proto-War was basically ten times worse. What made it worse was that the Khan Empire went off of some Korean professor's crackpot theory and ran with it, then basically people threw in things from what would basically be althistory (http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_History:What_is_Althistory%3F) and things got out of hand before we burnt out and lost interest as usual. Nowadays /his/ memes are much tamer in comparison.

You can see a lot of the althistory influence in things like the Centaurian expansion, Mu and Atlantis.

Halfway through rhe Empire From the Ashes books and I have to ask, what is with the Asgerd reward in the jump? Balanced aganst the setting a planatoid should be more acessable and if it is supposed to be centered on the planet side stuff found in the rest of the jump the thing shouldn't really be offerd at all.

It feels as though someone wanted one of these ships but didn't think such a high power setting would go through, so they focused on the low level stuff and snuck the ship they wanted in as a scenario reward.

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Wolfenstein: The New Order
> Age: 22 [Rolled2]
> Location: London [Rolled2]
> Origin: Nazi Scientist
> Say It Right [Get a Freebie!]
> Bloody Science [-100CP]
> Skullface [-200CP]
> Secret Thieves [-300CP]
> Da’at Yichud Library [-400CP]
> Beloved Puppy [Get a Freebie!]
> Moon Base Two [-300CP]
> Greta [+100CP]
> Out For Blood [+200CP]

Hey! Here's a thought. Remember Doomguy?
Remember how he went on a huge rampage and killed ALL the demons, because they killed his bunny?

> "Ve are here to take your body for study!"
> "... you... killed Greta."
> "Surrender quietly, ve are authorized to uze force!"
> "You ran her over with a panzer..."
> "OPEN ZE FIRE! ... ... vhy isn't zis vorking?"
> b̛̖͇̯͢ͅͅȩ̗̟͘͞c̴̞̙̪͚͚̻̼̮a̶̷͉̥͍̥̪̖̙̜͓͜u̱̺͙ş̫̞͍͖͙̹͙ͅe̶̸̺̺̥̞̯̰͘ ̸̴̖̝̟ỳ̩̮̭͓͙o͈̖̱̮͕̫̜ͅu̦̺͙̥͜'͔̙͕̰͝r̨͎͕͈͎̞͕̜͇e̵̗̮ ̥̩̬͖̯̕g̶̟͖͜͠ͅo̹̼̣͉͢i̸͖͎̭̙̠̖ͅņ̻̩̣̘̫̘͢͡g̪͕ ̷̞̱t̸̡͚̮ͅͅơ̹̱̼͎̭͢͠ ͈͚̭̖ͅd͉̜̪ì̵̺͙͠e̴̺̬̹͕
> "Nein! NEIN!"

That's what happened here.

So I have this perk now, right? And it lets me make brilliant leaps in science if I don't care about things like "morality" and "amount of casualties"!
And even moreso if my efforts are for the purposes of war!
And it turns out there are a lot of people I want to die now. And I do love genetic experiments!
Sure, the first hundred thousand or so were failures, but that's okay, because eventually I perfected the transformation process, and now I have a whole ARMY of Gretas!
And the Nazis no longer exist.

>>54495932
I can't tell you without spoiling the end of the second book (where you can really stop at, because the third book is super boring and doesn't matter much to the jump), but there is a reason why you'd get an Asgerd and not an Utu. Also, Asgerds are more common than you think. You'll see.

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>>54495959
For shame, your choice of image is all wrong

>>54495970
I think that's missing anon's point. Anon seems to be saying that the setting/books are much higher power than the jump seems to imply, and thus that the Asgerd should have been more available and not some super duper ball-busting scenario reward.

>>54496011
...he's saying the exact opposite of what you just said.

>>54496011
Not how I read it, but possible, I suppose. In that case, getting an Asgerd is easy, just go to Birhat and invoke Case Omega.

>>54496020
>>54495932
>Balanced aganst the setting a planatoid should be more acessable
Which is exactly what I just said.

>and if it is supposed to be centered on the planet side stuff found in the rest of the jump the thing shouldn't really be offerd at all.
Which is a commentary on what the jump focused on, not the setting.

>It feels as though someone wanted one of these ships but didn't think such a high power setting would go through, so they focused on the low level stuff and snuck the ship they wanted in as a scenario reward.
Commentary on how the jump is lower powered than the setting.

>>54495970
I am well aware, what I am saying is that given their availiblity in setting it would make sense for them to be more availible than they are in the jump. Unless it is meant to focus on the lower powered earth locked part of the story (which it appears to be) in which case it doesn't make sense for it to be offered at all.

It makes it feel like the jump was made for the ships but the jumpmaker didn't think the setting with all it's high powered stuff would be accepted. So he focused on the low power stuff and hid the ship in a senario that seems hard but is actually easy for a jumper.

Near the end of book 2 and I think I was already spoiled on what you are talking about.

>>54496011
The senario is easy anon, well it is if you read the books or have a PtV/Read the Guide type ability. Buy bridge officer implants and contact Dahak with your built in communicator. You have the codes to get acess an he'll blow away any mutineer threat that notices the transmission and send you a ride.

Then just repeat what the MC did to deal with the evil AI.

>>54496136
Oh, I see. I think I understand now, and I sort of agree. I mean, you can't buy an Utu, either, the biggest ship you can buy is a parasite fighter (which is still enormous, but not enough). But that's really the only place where it's below the power level of the second book. When it comes to personal capabilities you're as good as any of the characters, so that's fitting. So I don't think it was necessarily to sneak in a higher power level, just a desire to have us earn the power of a Fourth Imperium planetoid ship instead of just buy one. The problem is that the scenario is poorly balanced. Like I said, you can just with the jump's purchases be as competent as MacIntyre, but with at minimum a thousand times longer to prepare. Not having magic available doesn't really balance that out. A better way to do it would be to just drop us into MacIntyre's shoes.

>>54496176
>You have the codes to get acess an he'll blow away any mutineer threat that notices the transmission and send you a ride.
Actually, I vaguely recall Dahak saying that he would have killed anyone contacting him with the right codes just out of paranoia. He's got enough autonomy by then to demand secondary means of confirmation, so he could kill you even if you had the access codes.

>>54496200
Wait, no, I'm misremembering. Checked the passage I was thinking of, got some wording mixed around in my memory. Yeah, using the codes will be fine.

>>54496248
Yes, I know, see >>54496231. I was remembering wrong.

>>54496278
Sorry, on my phone and didn't see until after I posted.

>>54494830
So is there any way to mass produce any of the Kamen Rider Belts? I kinda want to do it but I've been looking through the options and it doesn't look like any of the perks would allow for it, though Dopants and Gashats do come close, or am I just reading the perks weird?

>>54496774
you could take Ready To Brave! in Kamen Rider Neo Heisei Part 4: Ex-Aid or the armor Customization options in Marvel cinematic universe part two includes An option where you can get blueprints, also if you're willing to go More primitive Showa Kamen Rider Jump (Part 1) has an entire tree for making people into Kamen Riders you'll have to teach these skills to others However,but most of the Neo Heisei jumps have some kind of technology perk You can use to mass-produce them

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>>54493737
All the damn time. Though I imagine my jumper knows what they can actually do better than I do.

>>54494508
A ton of individual text files. It is disorganized as hell.

>>54495775
I like the simple Antimagic Field of D&D. Especially with the Permanent Emanation feat to go with it.

>>54493706
I went with the entire list of Island, Forest, Mountain, Plain, Swamp, Luck, Joy, Pleasure, Fertility, Sleep, Clouds, Heavens, and of course Dragon.

Basically, I turned myself in a Ryuu version of the Ur-Dragon with all five mana colors. Added the Fertility, Clouds, and Heavens in because of Ryuu being symbol of those. And then added Luck, Joy, Pleasure, and Sleep to hand out blessings for those.

>>54495492
Also, Gaunlet, could we give the sub-Kami created by Divine Intervention more than one Symbolic Link each? Like, could I create one with Island and Dragon links to make a mini-Keiga for example?

Otherwise I'd have a ton of them that would be colorless, right? Or do they get a color alignment appropriate to their Link?

>>54494235
>but we actually have a very small amount of druid/kami like powers in Jumpchain.
...Spreaking of.

What druidic options do we actually have for a nature-Jumper in the chain?

>>54496820
>What druidic options do we actually have for a nature-Jumper in the chain?
Depends on what kind of druid you're trying to go for. Nature magic is pretty common in many of the flexible magic options like Hero BBS or D&D magic. Warcraft is probably the first option that people think of when it comes to animal Druids, but there are a couple others from places like SDS and Magicka

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Is there a way to to figure out what a bluemage would be able to learn from different monsters? After the talk in thread lately they seem like a really interesting class of magic user.

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>>54496774
Well I don't know about any other ones but the ones from Showa, to be exact the Shocker Riders and ZO, era stuff should be mass produceable by a person with the proper cloning facility and training programs.

>>54496820
>Also, Gaunlet, could we give the sub-Kami created by Divine Intervention more than one Symbolic Link each?
Oh yeah you can mix and match but you can only create as many as you have Symbolic Links.

>...Spreaking of.
Noteable for reasons.

>What druidic options do we actually have for a nature-Jumper in the chain?
As i've said there are very few connect with nature type things to do, in contrast to the whole mass of Jumps that is. Harvest Moon is really nice for getting closer to nature stuff, no really I mean that.

>>54496774
Yes, many of them. All of the Showa-era Riders aside from Amazon and J are technology-based, so mass production is possible. In some cases that even happened.

Kuuga is a unique piece of magitech, but it's related to the talismans the Grongi used to make themselves into kaijin, so it might be possible to make more.

Agito is all weird god-mutants, though the G-3 and G-4 armors are mass producible. You don't transform with them, though, you just put them on.

Ryuki you could make as many as you want, the Advent Cards are reproducible and that's where the Alternatives got theirs.

Faiz we don't have a jump for yet, but those are also technology. They only work for people with Orphenoch DNA in them, so if your user isn't themselves an Orphenoch they'll need gene therapy.

Blade you can make artificial Undead and seal those to power Rouzers outside the four suits of cards, so you could make as many as you want. Seems to be pretty resource intensive, though, and might end the world. Probably not a good idea.

Hibiki is magic. Anyone you train can transform.

Kabuto is also tech, though crazy advanced alien technology. Still theoretically mass producible.

Den-O you can make more belts, but they're not really useful without Imajin to power them. Getting more of those is hard.

Kiva you could make more IXA Systems, another tech Rider gear.

Decade...not sure, kind of dependent on Decade and Deind's ties to the multiverse. Probably not viable.

W is magic USB drives. Get a connection to the True Gaia Memory (something analogous to the Akashic Record) and you can make as many as you want.

OOO is alchemy, there's actually an item in the jump to teach you the alchemy that makes OOO Medals.

Fourze is all tech, but it's powered by friendship. Not everyone will be able to use it.

>cont.

>>54496897
Setting wikis.

>>54496897
I think the commonly accepted thought is that the normal blue mage is locked to the set of skills that's within the game. There are only some blue mage perks where this isn't specified and in those ones normally you learn whatever skill you get hit by.

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>>54496897
Look for things that would be labeled spell like abilities in DnD. Things like a dragons fire breath or a gorgons petrifying gaze. I think they are usually labeled with an Sp in the monster manuals, they turn from being spell like for the monster into being a full spell for you. At least usually, it works differently in some settings I think but Im not sure.

>>54496901
>As i've said there are very few connect with nature type things to do, in contrast to the whole mass of Jumps that is.
Do you mean to say that you don't know a lot of jumps that have Druid options or something? There's a good number of jumps where nature magic is possible, from either perk options or just learning it in jump. Seems kind of odd to compare it against eight hundred something jumps when most people don't get that far in their chains anyways.

>>54496943
Can I ask for some more info on those perks?

>>54496953
That is pretty helpful and really cool.

>>54496924

Wizard is magic, anyone capable of channeling mana can fuel a Driver. Phantoms can be artificially created and implanted in people to make them able to channel mana. Magic-channeling gear is simple to make if you have the right materials, Wizard's supplier is actually a mundane jeweler who's just learned to work with magic stones.

Gaim is mass producible, though expensive to make (that was a plot point, the supply of the rare earth metals used in Sengoku Drivers was only enough for one billion people to be saved). Lockseeds are hard to get post-jump unless you take the Inves perks, but they can be made artificially as shown by the Energy Lockseeds.

Drive is all technology. They actually do design a Mass-Production Kamen Rider Mach system, though only one ever gets built as the plot diverges from there being need for them.

Ghost looks like magic, it's not, it's just technology that's fueled by souls. It's confusing. Point is, if you can get the ghosts, you can make as many Drivers as you want. Transformation into basic forms is possible without ghosts, though.

Ex-Aid is super mass producible, though the best Gashats require a surgery to make you immune to Bugster Virus. But mass production Rider systems that don't require the surgery are canon, even if they're not very good.

Build isn't out yet, but looking at its aesthetics I'd be surprised if it can't be mass produced.

What is the best build for Generic Xianxia for rapid escalation? I'm not taking any time extension drawbacks, but I have some time dilation effects.

>>54496943
>I think the commonly accepted thought is that the normal blue mage is locked to the set of skills that's within the game.
Literally never heard this repeated, ever.

>>54496965
Just in comparison to the number of other things out there in much higher quantities, it seems to be a smaller amount. As for the whole comparing it to all the Jumps.... well that's the collective works we reference right?

>If you want a namefag popularity contest that badly just make more waifu cyoas from the namefags here. The popular namefags are easy enough to make waifus from.
I didn't know I wanted this until now.

>>54496953
That's the Supernatural (Su) ability type, not Spell-Like. Spell-Like is literally the ability to cast a spell, just as an innate power instead of learned from class levels. Supernatural is for unique magical abilities of a monster. Though blue magic could probably learn Spell-Like abilities from being hit with them, too.

>>54496985
Be an mc and slap someone higher up than you while insulting everyone around you.

>>54496985
There's a perk that makes you a xianxia protagonist with all the ridiculous growth rate that implies, that's going to help.

What jumps offer perks for perfect or boosted memory?

>>54497010
Does it give you the sociopathy too?

>>54497003
Oh, you could be right.

>>54496973
For example in dnd a Barghest has the spell like ability blink and the supernatural ability feed, I believe both would be possible to gain using bluemage spells but feed is probably more likely. Feed eats a target and regains hp and makes it almost impossible to res the target. But as others have said you need to fanwank a bit.

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>>54496881
Nature magic, mostly. Though the animal stuff is nice to add.

D&D Druid's pretty good, not sure how I forgot about those. And I'll take a look at SDS and Magicka then.

>>54496901
>Oh yeah you can mix and match but you can only create as many as you have Symbolic Links.
Oh, that sounds really cool.

I'd thought you could only use one Link once, which would've meant making sub-Kami with multiple Links would diminish the number of sub-Kami I could actually make.

But I could do something like giving each of my Land Links a Dragon sub-Kami, and add colors to the other links... Hm, wonder what color Luck would fall under...

>>54496973
The most straightforward and effective way is honestly just to not bother with Blue Mage at all. Savage Salvage on Amazo achieves the same effect with no real limitations as long as you can get to Amazo.

>>54496988
And how many times have you even had the blue mage discussion? I've never seen anyone try to argue that something like Enemy Skill Materia could be used to learn any skill, even that outside of the game.

>>54497031
Pokemon.

>>54496985
The drop in perk line has the best synergy with Xianxia Protagonist, and if you are feeling like exploiting it for maximum power, going for the mystical being perk that lets you manipulate or eat a concept would be a good call. You can also go for the one perk in the young master line that increases the effects of training under a master.

>>54497047
You can't say something is commonly accepted if there's never been any discussion either.

>>54497040
There are plenty of options whether you're looking for animals or not. Nature magic is generally just a specialized form of elemental magic, not that much different from how things like Wood Release or Lava Release work in Naruto. Same thing with bending, same thing with several schools of magic in Fairy Tail.

>>54497047
Was Amazo able to copy magic?

>>54497047
I dont think it ever really came up because ir is a rather obscure class that usually appears only in final fantasy stuff, but there are perks to keep learning outaide of the setting. Nobody is saying ir could learn any spell ever, I dont believe it could learn really any spells or even a large portion. It learns monster abilities, that is just how it works. It turns monster abilities into spells.

>>54497091
Some versions of him could. That's what people forget, "Amazo" is an entire line of robots, not a single character. They're all united by looking like shirtless guys with dumb haircuts and elf ears, though. No wonder the cartoon changed Amazo to just a featureless metal humanoid.

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>>54496774
>>54496924
>>54496976
Leave to find out some stuff and come back to this. Dear me! Also you can buy outright a suit of V-1 Kamen Rider gear, another mass production armor, and outside of Kamen Rider stuff you could produce Night Drivers and Mithril Armor if you had the know-how, maybe Prop Master however I dunno if they count as 'Props'. (Chroma Squad)

On the subject of mass production of things only you (or companions) would be able to make usually what do you guys usually do /JC? I've personally made a Noble Phantasm just for that purpose at one point.

>>54497062
But there has been discussion? I mean I guess you weren't part of the discussion when FFVII and FFX came out years back, but this isn't the first time blue mages have been brought up. It's just easier to remember FFVIII because the Blue Magic perk was nice and freeform.

>>54497169
How do they handle it then?

>>54497169
I was there. I don't remember the conclusion you're saying being come to.

>>54497096
FFVIII's Blue Magic perk was notable because it specifically mentioned that any defeated being could have its skill taken, and as long as the being wasn't defeated in the jump, the normal restrictions would be removed. On top of this, as long as one person took the Blue Mage perk, the perk guarantees that you can teach it to others. That's why it became the poster child for Blue Magic. The other Blue Mage perk gave up the flexibility of letting it be taught to others, but didn't have the one skill per enemy limitation and similarly let the Blue Mage learn any skill. But that one was only notable because it wasn't a capstone.

>>54497196
Wasn't the VIII Blue Mage perk also free to take special skills from people and robots and shit too?

>>54497213
Not him but quistis uses it for robot skills including Exploding lasers and missiles .

>>54497233
Wonder how the fuck that works

>>54497213
There was no racial limitation or restriction that it had to be a monster. The only restriction was that it had to be a single fixed skill that was the stronger skill of the target.

>A curious and obscure ability, you've somehow picked up the ability to learn Blue Magic in your studies. The basic principle is that many monsters possess special magical techniques, often employed through a special body part or organ. You can, with a little research and a complete dissection, learn how these techniques work, and how you may replicate them yourself using magic. What this amounts to is the ability to copy a defeated being's (monster, animal, plant, sapient, etc.) single strongest technique, whether biological or magical in nature, by examining part of their dead body. While this ability has plenty of potential, the single biggest caveat is that these techniques are often true magic, and normal humans just aren't capable of casting true magic except during a Limit Break. This drawback will apply to any Blue Magic learned from creatures in the Final Fantasy 8 world. If you leave this world, however, any techniques learned from creatures outside of it will still function normally barring similar restrictions, no Limit Breaks needed. The best part, though, is that Blue Magic is entirely reproducible and teachable, and though it's quite an advanced subject, any of your students may eventually be taught to wield the techniques you've gained through

>>54497253
Huh. Hi Lycoris. Didn't know you were still around.

Misquoted. This >>54497269 was meant for this >>54497192

>>54497031
Jorge Joestar, Exalted - Infernals, Batman TAS, a few of the Marvel Jumps

>>54497148
>On the subject of mass production of things only you (or companions) would be able to make usually what do you guys usually do /JC?

well let's see

1. For abilities . I have my many retainers acting as a Magatama farm, each having been given sacrificial bestowment via sacrificial bestowment and any abilities I want to mass-produce and told to share them among themselves so that they can all mass-Produce copies of Those abilities

2. For Technological stuff I scan it with either my mother box or the foundry table from warframe , and then print it out With supreme commander technology upgraded with Rick-tech

3.for magic my mother box has been imported damn near everywhere that offers magic and has one of those " Teach any magic you know, to anyone" perks I forgot the name of of it, though it's one of the exalted ones.

4. For conceptual abilities I have a servant with EX item creation and a magic to technology perk

5.for my biological abilities I went with a virus that can absorb and mingle with damn near any other life form in prototype,as well, as the capstone where you become said virus and have steadily been improving it/myself with various viruses and such, including the Mutualist strain option From war frame,this is in fact my final form from SAO ,as well as the technology to biology perk from Hive Queen quest

6.for racial bonuses/Abilities I have infectious bite from Darkstalkers.

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>>54497284
>>54497269
>The only person in this thread other than you who could possibly remember when FF7 and 10 jumps came out is some randomly selected jumpmaker
What fucking drugs are you on?

Or did the shitposter seriously only get like four hours of sleep?

>>54497243
Not sure, magic probably. I know aion has said in the past that xi blue magic is particularly funky because of how even though it is teachable it fucks with the users soul and those who dont take the perks to block it have a chance of suddenly turning into soul flayers.

>>54497302
Because that's who I had the conversation with?...There wasn't anyone else that was discussing it at the time, and the whole point to the discussion was figuring out what pricing for a Blue Mage ability would actually be.

I'm not sure why you'd just assert that you were in on our conversations without even bothering to check where these conversations took place or who they were with.

The real question is, where are my Green Mage perks?

>>54497341
Final fantasy tactics has those. But the green mage is mostly poison based isnt it?

>>54497339
senpai just because I was in the thread doesn't mean I was talking to either of you. This shit is public, we can all see your every conversation. I said I SAW it being discussed.

>>54497341
All over the place? Green Mages are just buffer/debuffer archetypes. You can find those in all sorts of places.

>>54497348
Green magic is healing, wind, and a few other odd effects.

>>54497348
Status effects. Green, Dark, Arcane, and Time are the little discussed branches of FF magic. Not as popular as Black, White, Blue, and Summoning.

>>54497366
>>54497374
That sounds kinda cool but doesnt that just fall under red mage? Or scholar?

>>54497352
You do realize I've always spoken to Lycoris on IRC right? Even if you searched for both our trips there'd probably only be one time that we interacted with each other on the thread. You have a preconceived notion of things don't you?...

>>54497388
Red Mage is just someone who dabbles in both black and white as well as swordplay.

>>54497391
Then whatever points you're talking about weren't in the thread and I didn't see them? I've told you from the start. I was in the threads when 7 and 10 were released. I didn't see any discussion or consensus on the conclusion you were talking about, so I don't see it as standard. If it's some conclusion you reached exclusively on IRC then of course the rest of us didn't see it, so of course we'd be confused.

>>54497388
In different worlds, the classifications for the non core schools fall differently.

>>54497388
Scholar just uses black magic on a grand scale.

>>54497446
Which game? I recall only the mmo scholars and they are high power dabblers in both light and dark magic using books as conduits.

What's the best kind of summoning magic? Preferably for both boss monsters and minion spam.

>>54497480
I know them from FFTA2.

>>54497491
Has nobody claimed that jump still? So far I've only been able to get there through FF12. Would be neat to have its own jump so I don't have to do as much scenario hopping.

>>54497524
Not that I know of. I'd love to see it, but I've got enough jumps on my plate right now. And it's been forever since I played the game.

>>54497491
FFTA 2 ?

>>54497534
I have two Adelles from existing jumps, but getting a third to complete the trio would be nice.

>>54497545
Final fantasy tactics advanced 2: The return of Marche

>>54497545
The controversial sequel that ends with Marche destroying the universe.

The story was shitty, but a lot of people think the gameplay was better. Pretty much all the changes were for the express purpose of nerfing assassins, however.

>>54497612
Didn't he destroy Ivalice in 1? What, did he remake it so he could destroy it a second time?

>>54497524
I was under the impression that the FFTA jump we have takes stuff from both FFTA 1 and FFTA 2?

>>54497619
He's tugging on your lower appendage.

>>54497641
Well that's not very nice, he could have at least bought me dinner first.

>>54497619
No, he just destroyed Ivalice in 1. In 2, he manages to destroy the entire FF multiverse. Except he also doesn't, it's really weird and ambiguous.
I'm shitposting. I'm pretty sure Marche isn't even in A2.

So am I the only one who thought Marche was a girl for a while.

>>54497665
Well his name ends in a vowel, that's pretty feminine in English. Though not always.

>>54497660
Sounds like a great drawback for a FFTA2 jump.

>>54497665
Probably. I always thought it was pretty clear he was a boy.

>>54497658
A free tug is a free tug. Might as well enjoy it.

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>He buys healing perks that can't regrow limbs, cure disabilities, or fix birth defects
>His healing perks don't work on mental illness
Have fun being useless.

>>54497689
Still better than waiting for natural healing.

>>54497689
The Fuck are you on about?

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>>54497545
It's the sequel to FFTA, although it's a pretty loose one since there are only a few things/chaaracters that connect to the first one, such as Montblanc, Ezel Berbier, some of the lore Leazaford gives you on judges IIRC and Mewt at the end of the game.

Notably, it takes place in either a new world based off of the later Ivalice games, or in Ivalice itself. It's a bit ambiguous; Montblanc mentions Marche when he gets KO'd but the world is entirely different from that of FFTA.

It's also something I'm interested in making a Jump for, once I clear my plate.

>>54497633
FFTA takes place in different Ivalice, whereas 2 takes place in the same Ivalice as 12, RW, Tactics, and Vagrant Story.

The jump does have stuff from 2, but since it's an alternate reality, it doesn't technically stop an A2 jump.

Did the regular FFT jump ever get finished?

>>54497743
I keep tabs on the dude's Google Doc of it, but he's going at it so bug nuts backwards its just a mess. There also hasn't been any work on it since January. It's basically up for grabs.

Sorry, but I don't have the link right now. I'm on my phone.

What would be the best jump to start off in if you wanted to be a non-combatant, CEO type?

>>54497318
Yeah be careful with that stuff, it was created by empirial alchemists to make living weapons for the empire. Bluemages originally were made through experimental processes of alchemy that caused them to erupt into a mass of tentacles and other disgusting things like turning into blobs of flesh. They eventually got the process down to where now bluemages are more or less "human". Bluemages in ffxi get their spells by basically ripping off hunks of the target creatures soul and attaching it to their own.

As you can probably understand this is not inherently a very pleasent thing for the soul and puts amazing stress on the body, that is why the bluemage capstone in ffxi puts a solid lock on you accidentally becoming a soul flayer, because in setting there has never been a bluemage who died of natural causes. Either they become soul flayers and have to be hunted down by other blue mages or they die in battle. It is a very violent job.

Yes all the jobs are teachable, and you can learn them in setting if you want though the perks are extras. They do require some extra equipment though in setting sometimes and if you want to teach others you will need the extras, things like wyvern eggs for dragoons and such are available in the items section, I highly recommend buying that if you are going to teach other people mainly because the item is cheap and also because it is a one stop shop for things needed to teach others ffxi jobs.

>>54497971
I think one of the dc jumps has a perk line based on luthor.

I would go with batman the animayed series though, you can get a multimillion dollar a month cash stream and a tech company iirc.

>>54497971
Probably Portal.