/cyoag/ - CYOA General, "This is The End," My Ass Edition

>>54473078
Hi!

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For those of you having trouble getting to bed.

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This one hasn't been posted in a while.

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>>54473170

>>54473170
Everyday is not a while anon.

>>54473138
I'd pick Gobo, because she seems like someone I could get along with, but I actually need to sleep tonight.

I'll go with Kitsune, and go to bed.
The tea I'm drinking should make me feel soft and fall asleep, so I might as well imagine not being alone while I do.

>>54473138
The Weresheep sounds like the best thing ever. Let's go with that.

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>>54473185
fucking internet went out.

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>>54473138
NO I AM NOT GOING TO BED

NEVER GONNA SLEEP AGAIN

>>54473138
I'm on an overnight shift tonight at work anyway, so I'm going to spend the night waiting up for late check ins and drunk people ringing the doorbell, so Goblin is pretty much perfect.

It also helps that my regular sleep schedule is pretty much "pass out at dawn" anyway.

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>>54473534

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>>54473555

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>>54473576

>>54473138
Automation all the way. Robots are cool. Not sleeping is also cool-ish, if it's controlled.

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>>54473591

>>54473078
Can someone post that recently made one where you are the newly awoken space emperor? It was similar to Zodiac Brides and had a very "fall of the Roman Empire" type setting.

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>>54473149

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>>54473993

>small god -15

>curvy +2
>beautiful face +6
>short +2
>d-cup +2
>bubble +4
>adaptive +6
>adult (24) 0
>golden blonde +2
>sapphire blue eyes +2
>pale skin +2
>feminine voice 0

>additional breasts (x2 c-cups) +3
>aesthetic mutation (elf ears) +1
>infertility (don't need overthrow of the lunar tyrant now) 0
>tools-make-the-craftsman understanding +1
>youthful mountains reinforcement -1
>laughing at the wind bears -2
>man-pelt amendment (only normal hair for head, eyebrows, lashes; everywhere else super fine/light so not noticeable) +1
>seven gates yielding -1
>icon-eye inscription (cat eyes) -1
>ardor-glance indication (violet) +1
>rapid pregnancy -3
>endless lactation effect +1
>eternal virgin purification +1
>biomotonic cleansing -3
>cleanliness near godliness -3
>vitriol-gut digestion -3

>lifelong servitude +14
>tentacle monster +15
>insect queen (+ovipositor) +25
>archetypical combination (tentacle monster and insect queen combined) +5
>archetypical master (tentacle monster/insect queen combo is my real master) +15
>health and hygiene (body care package x2, make-up package x2, healthcare package, maid) -19
>mortal-taming collar (+mortal-taming leash) +6
>breeder +10
>restricted raiment (+jewelry) +8
>essence refinement (x3, first is free) -24
>time denying kata -10
>longevity (3) -30
>immortality -20

+135-135=0

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>>54474049

So the being that summoned me is a Small God. Insect Queen says it can include "minor behemoths, strange gods, or bizarre demons", so I figure taking Small God with Insect Queen and Tentacle Monster, with Archetypical Combination can make some kind of minor eldritch God. So this eldritch God has Ovipositor and needs a living incubator to keep eggs in. Form Sculpting made me perfect for that with Seven Gates Yielding, Rapid Pregnancy, Additional Breasts, and Endless Lactation Effect. I'm infertile (because pregnancy=ew), but Rapid Pregnancy doesn't say that it requires fertility. So I figure it can mean that I can incubate eggs so they're ready to hatch faster, making me perfect specimen for this job. I wish Easy Pregnancy didn't require fertility, otherwise I'd pick that so holding eggs wouldn't be uncomfortable.

Pretty much every other choice is related to my comfort. The eldritch God cares a lot for the well being of its eggs, so it makes sure that I live life of supreme comfort and luxury. Just lounging around draped in jewels with a maid to clean up after me could get boring after awhile. But Immortality just so happened to require Essence Refinement x3, so I have a strong ability to learn magic. I didn't take any extra choices to boost magic, so I'd have to learn slowly with lots of studying. Thankfully I have lots of free time to do it and the eldritch God shouldn't mind as long as I don't exert myself to much.

Eldritch Gods probably live very long times, so I might have this job for thousands of years. When something does eventually happen to it, I will have learned lots of magic and can explore the multiverse as a powerful sexy sorceress.

My outfit is like a cross between the Cleopatra and Slave Leia ones, so like sexy-skimpy and all made from gold and jewels. This is to show how valuable I am as an incubator for baby demi-Gods. And I have to have the Collar and Leash because I'm owned. As for my appearance, I'm a very attractive busty blonde.

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>text wip is over 100 kbs long
>still 1.5 sections to go

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I believe someone a thread or two ago wanted a shitty Pop-Tart Waifu CYOA? It's got Husbandos and Friendos, too.

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>>54474219

>>54473993

I am reminded of another CYOA: Whatever happened to EroticDescentGuy anyhow?

>>54474281
Currently going by Enriched Dairy Gatherer 'cause his current CYOA is human livestock themed.

I'm gonna be the best slut

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I think I'm getting burned out by these threads anon. How can we make them less cancerous in the future? I'm going to try to respond less to bait and start less pointless arguments of my own and focus on builds and making OC.

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>>54474281
The WIP I mentioned:

>>54474357
Perhaps the only cure for what ails /cyoag/

We should all endeavor to emulate this wise anon.

>>54474219
No pope tart?

>>54474426
I don't want to get excommunicated, anon.

>>54474323
>>54474365

Ew.

>>54474219
Cherry is the only flavor I can stand. Everyone likes strawberry, but it tastes the worst to me.

>>54474281
I also saw somebody claiming to be working on Lewd Dune in the /trash/ thread too. To my recollection, Erotic Descent Guy said that he would build that before his hiatus. It could be him, or It could be somebody tired on waiting for him.

>>54474479
Hmm... If you're Angelanon, I think that the stock show thing might be up your alley. At least, Angel's made a lot of builds where she pumps out eggs, and that seems to be one path the player could go down in the Stock Show one...

>>54474341

Well *I* believe in you anon.

>>54474219
Hot Fudge Sundae was the only Pop-Tart flavor I could ever tolerate.
No 'fruit flavored' Pop-Tart actually tastes like the fruit its trying to mimic.

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>>54473170
Card: "Conqueror"

Tier 1 Life Options: Mercantile, Happiness, Entertainment

Tier 2 Life Options: Mercantile, Engineering, Community

Tier 3 Life Options: Mercantile

100 Imperial Magus
50 Empire's Hand
60 Cast Out
1 Grand Dragon

Seals: Unbound Train, Possessed Phone

Minor Lordship Powers: Silver Tongue, Rabbit's Foot, Lnd Sense, Watchful Eye

War-Master 1: The Legend

War-Master 2: Zanzabar, Bound Scourge

War-Master 3: Sir Simon the Rightous

Diplomat: Bartholomew Esq.

Bodyguard: Damien

Spymaster: T'lak The Wanderer

Specialist (Master of Coin): Christoph III

Wife: Nali & Fiyu Tilsane


>The "Folk WIthout Rails," as they have come to be known, travel in their magic train, from city to city, sparking economic exchange and grand festivals. So widespread is their trade that promissory notes from their unified bank are considered as good as currency in any principality. When speaking to one them, caution is considered paramount, because one never knows when they are speaking to a mighty witch, a deadly assassin, or even a divine being; they certainly are a diverse lot. Though it is said their great chief drew the card of conquest upon his asscent, he did not have the stomach for war and determined to "find another means of conquest," and while the military forces he COULD muster are indeed great, he has rarely needed to. When the Folk Without Rails come to town, it is best to let them in, let your people enjoy the festivals, enjoy the inevitable economic upturn, and let them be on their way... interfering with the affairs of Gypsies is a poor idea in any world.

>>54474357
>>54474382
That's exactly what you have to do if you want the cancer to die.
There's no chemo for these threads, the only way to destroy the tumors is to starve them of what they feed on: attention.

>>54474821
>artificial fruit flavors don't taste like real fruit
Wow.

>>54474049
Is your name Angela?

>>54474219
>Unfrosted Strwberry
>Hot Fudge Sundae
>Brown Sugar Cinnamon

Sweet, I get a toaster bro and some bitches to go on an arson-tastic pop-tart fueled rampage.

>>54473138
The kitsune for sure. Tea, fluffy tails, and being sweet? Yes to all of that.

>>54473138
Think I'll pick the goat girl, she's got the biggest tits.

>>54474926
We can only hope that other anons do the same.

CYOAs, CYOAs, I love 'em, I need 'em
my dick jumps for joy when I do 'em
big ones, fat ones, short ones, tall ones,
they're so delectable, especially the small ones.
no time to read 'em completely
my dick's throbbing', I got a need to fill
I don't read 'em, the waifus only thing I care
I just grab myself a waifu and I do 'em

>>54475212
Ayyy, one of my favorite one pagers

>Drawbacks
Late Bloomer (21)

>Physical
Muscle Mass (20)
Regeneration (18)
Stamina (17)
Immunity (15)
Grace (14)
Down Under (13)

>Mental
RPG (11)
Google Glasses (9)

>Paranormal
Shadow (8)
Charm (7)
Pheromones (5)
Suggestions (2)
Sex Factor (0)

I'd definitely Regeneration and Immunity to active first, just so I don't die in a freak accident before reaching full power. RPG and Suggestions would be the next ones I want, as both will take a little figuring out and are the most powerful. All in all, it will take a year and a month for me to have all my powers and I'm cool with that.

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>>54475227
...
I'm so close to getting the reference but it's just out of reach...

>>54475314
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hZ5GDYPqjk

>>54473138
The guy that wrote these should do more. People don't all pick the same character(s)

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>>54475394
I'm still kind of floored by the fact that I can't actually decide because they're all so appealing in different ways...
Even God Tier CYOAs have waifus I'm just personally not fond of, but... I want every one of these girls...
I'm still trying to choose to this day...
I don't know if I'll ever be able to decide with confidence...

>>54474072
>I'm a very attractive busty blonde

'sup bae you want some fuck

>>54475483
I want the succubus sex, kitsune tails, android bantz and goblin games. At least I can safely eliminate the goblin for being a goblin though.

>>54475483
Exactly, it's a masterpiece!

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>>54475771
>eliminate the goblin for being a goblin though
This kind of racist bullshit is exactly why we're all going to burn...

>>54475891
>Burn
>Not end up in some sex dungeon

>>54475891
>draw an elf
>call it a goblin

>>54475891
I'd tap his ass and call him my slave

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>>54475891
>Deviantart.

Further proof that all goblins should die.

>>54476072
Danganronpa CYOA when

>>54476082
When >>54476072 finishes his lesbian author CYOA

>>54476086
It's not an author cyoa specifically, anon. Also that's not me.

>>54474219
But what's the fourth primal flavor?

>>54476130
Apple Currant, the fourth of the original pop tart flavors. It's on the right.

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>>54476072
>post a picture you got from Safebooru
>didn't erase the artist's signature
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DEVIANTART"
You realize this is why no one likes us, right?
Have an actual CYOA for the cyoa thread and keep your whining to yourself.

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>>54476142
>Pillar
Vedic
>Prestige
The Aurarian Order
>Pupil
Leuvia Laur

The way I figure it, if I'm gonna a mage, I might as well be the best damn mage possible, so I'm gonna choose the most difficult yet power pillar of magic and the prestige that will help me improve in my magic, as well as a pupil who can work just as hard as I will.

>>54473078
>tfw don't know who half these namefags or authors are
Can we go back to being Anon?

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>>54476191
>fighting game villains
>Smash characters

>>54476242
Spicy.

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OC

I just want to be loved.

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>>54476486
5? Hmm, that's tough

I think I'll go with my waifu first,
then my second choice will be my waifu again.
Third one is tough, but I think I'll take a risk and go with my waifu.
Now, we'll switch it up a little bit. Our choices so far have seemed pretty similar, so we'll go with my waifu for some variety.
The last one, we saved the best for last. What's a coya without waifus? So I gotta go with my waifu for my last choice. Couldn't live with myself otherwise.

>>54476527
you live

>>54476565
Yeah I'm not dead yet.

>>54476527
Question: Musica Artis mentions 2.460 kilograms (i.e. 2 kg 460 g because decimal point), whereas Musica Inanis mentions 2,460 kilograms (i.e. 2t 460 kg because thousands separator). Is this intended, or a typo in one (or both) of the cases?

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>>54473138
No matter how many times I see this one, I always choose the android and then dread the health side effects of not sleeping. Plus sleeping is fun. Can we sleep if we want to?

If it's magic covfefe and you actually need less sleep, then you can be more productive and have more hours in the day, which seems pretty gud.

But even if it's not magical covfefe, I'll watch ghost in the shell and robotech with Ms Automaton.

>>54476532
I love you anon. and I'm not just saying that. Every person on the planet, regardless of circumstance, we should have love for them.

>>54476603
Looks intended to me. Artis is for making objects, so you can create any small object up to about 5lbs (that's where the 2.46 is coming from, conversion pounds to kilograms). Inanis teleports existing objects, most likly yourself and whatever you want to take with you. 5lbs would be useless at that.

>>54476603
It's a typo, It's meant to be a separator in both cases.

>>54474235
Does the pizza also nourish any companions you might pick?

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I like this one

>>54476486
>Playboy, School Spirit, Sentry and Orphan.

I shall obtain a mother for my ghost child if it's the lat thing I do!

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I have 17 entries for authors as companions in CYO/u/. Unless there are any other significant authors out there who want in that haven't already done business with me, I'm going to begin to just fill in the remaining empty space with girls that fill any missing niches, and then begin work on the CYOA proper in Affinity Designer.

I started running out of memory last time when making my last big CYOA, so this one's probably going to run at about 1200x8000 instead of 1200x10000, just as fair warning.

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So, what do you think about Kancolle cyoa?
Why is this summer so hot

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>>54477021
Can't wait!

>>54477021
That sounds fairly gay.

>>54477028
Someone was doing one, but you can do your own interpretation

>>54477065
I'm asking about that one, yes.

>>54474235
Is that a Hershey's Kiss to the right of Pizza Pizza's text?

>>54476527
>Artis
>Probabilitas
>Interitus

How the fuck does probabilitas work though? Do you sing the song before taking the action, during or after?

>>54477281
During, but it doesn't have to be your action you're modifying.

>>54477003
You are the first person I've seen to pick playboy.

>>54476527
>Musica Artis
Because creating stuff out of nothing sounds pretty handy.
>Musica Corporis (both)
Healing is nice, and shapeshifting is basically a must.

>>54477305
Yeah, that's what confuses me. It seems really impractical to start singing in the middle of town, school, work, etc. What confuses me too is that the text implies we're modifying the outcome instead of the actual action. How many outcomes are there realistically to any situation anyway? Not many, unless you're into quantum shenanigans. What could you even do with it? It's basically trying to win the lottery not by jotting down the correct numbers by luck but by warping the lottery results into what you wrote, except it is only limited to likely outcomes so I don't even think that's possible.

I think I'm too stupid for this song. What practical use did you have in mind for it?

>>54477416
Well, the ideas I had for it first of all would definitely be awkward to burst out in song to use them, but things like getting dice to land on the number you want, or changing the likelihood that something shot or thrown misses it's mark.

>>54476616
>If it's magic covfefe and you actually need less sleep, then you can be more productive and have more hours in the day, which seems pretty gud.
>But even if it's not magical covfefe, I'll watch ghost in the shell and robotech with Ms Automaton.

I wrote the pastebin that became this. It's magic. She's the "I legitimately don't like being tired, even if other people think it's comfy, and would like to avoid it" option.

>>54475394
>>54475483
>>54475771
>>54475863
You Anons are fucking awesome! I'm really happy you enjoy it. You have to give credit to the guy who did the images though. He edited a few of the girls significantly from what I originally wrote and they're way better off for it.

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Testing

>>54476006
Siblings
>2
Identical Twins
>3
Girl Friends
>5
Yuri Undertones
>6
Middle School
>8
Help with her Career
>9
Winter Wonderland
>9
Date
>10
Be Attractive
>10

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>>54477463
>nigga imma shoot you!
>HOL UP lemme sing a song
>*bursts into song and dance*

Is your life a musical, Strife?

>>54474072
>if I give it tentacles it's eldritch
Fuck's sake.

Also it's an Exalted god, so whatever it looks like, it's the same thing anyway and has a job to do.

>>54477530
That's why I said it would be super awkward.

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Just finished this.

>>54476006
>Friendly Competition
>Middle School
>Help her with her career
>Stargazing
>Visit the resort
>Walk in the winter wonderland
>Beach trip
>D-d-date
>Be Attractive
>Great cool

I'm going to hug my cute tsundere competitor and then put my penis inside of her in the future.

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>>54477559

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>Tfw stop writing CYOAs because they bring only pain now when I realize the fantasy isn't real.

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>>54477578

Testing 2

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>>54477592

>>54477586
But just think how happy they can make other people, even if only for a little while.

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>>54473078
>tfw no Hollow Earth cyoa

We deserve to know the truth!

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>>54477605

>>54476142
Thaumic magic seems most useful.
A magi-galleon seems the best place to have worked.

Miss Rutt seems like a riot to have around, and could actually use a mentor.

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>>54477619

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>>54477519
That CYOA is just perfectly sized for me.
Thanks.

>>54477028
Was working on one but then my well of inspiration went dry so that project is currently on hold.

>>54477559
The great work is complete

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>>54477559
>>54477578
>>54477592
>>54477605
>>54477619
>>54477626

IT'S FINISHED

>>54477619
It seems like Celestials vastly outpower all other kinds of demons. The Sun is like a tier 6 celestial but Mammon a tier 10 djinn is just a serpent under the sun.

>>54477559
Nice, it's been long time coming, hasn't it?

>>54477559
>>54477619
Acute angle waifu here I come.

>>54477669
I believe that was more of an expression

>>54477669
The dot system exists so don't get confused by the flavortext. Mammon is objectively, measuredly just as powerful as Ouranos. Their size does not play into it.

>>54477559
This is just a nitpick and it would probably be too much trouble to change at this point, but those dots are really tiny, especially considering how large the image is. It's kind of hard to see at a glance how many there are. Any chance you could make them a bit bigger and/or easier to see?

The grouping is helpful though, thank you for that.

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>>54477709
>size doesn't matter

STOP LYING

Ouranos can reach places and sensations Mammon can't even dream of!

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>>54477559
>still not sure whether to create an actual build that helps me fulfill my greatest desires OR try to trap a tier 10 demon into a dragon dildo

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>>54477021
Please add Dandere waifus

>>54477559
Just my luck. My favourite background (bloodline) has terrible synergy with my favourite family (djinn). Rather funny that bloodline and celestial are such a great match though.

>>54477781
The entries Rosanon mentioned are separate from the waifu that you'll be building for yourself, though.

>>54474926
This. Let's work together for a better /cyoag/

>>54474926
>starve shitposters of attention
>they develop multiple personality disorders and start talking too themselves

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So today I downloaded GIMP and got started on my first CYOA. This is what I've done so far.

While I know that posting a WIP is generally considered poor form, I'd also like to get some feedback since I'm still learning.

>>54477841
Kek

>>54477847
Not half bad for a start

>>54477847
>posting a WIP is generally considered poor form
I think it's just one guy pushing that idea

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>>54477781
>No Ruri Ruri

>>54477881
This.

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>>54477847
>least favourite genre of cyoas in my favourite kind of setting

I'm angry but I have to admit it looks good.

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>>54474916
Yes, yes, those good people just want to improve your economy

>>54477847
Seems neat, looking forward to the rest.

Also remember that the height limit for images is 10k pixels (meaning that if all four pages were going to be the same height as the WIP you posted, you could easily make the CYOA a two-pager), and that having your CYOA spread across fewer files makes it easier to (re)post.

>>54477923
Thanks. To clarify, that's not the entire first page, it's 6k pixels tall in total. That's just the part of the first page that's done so I cropped the WIP image down to 3k just to keep it clean.

>>54477559
Is it possible to bind multiple demons to your own body?

>>54477559
I'm confused how soul mate works. I'm guessing I spend the 10 points on the vessel (1 point per tier) the demon (1 point per tier) and 1 point more per dot if the demon's power is too low to summon itself. Whether that's right or not it took some figuring out.

>>54477990
except wait, the price of the ritual is multiplied, so at best you could get a tier 3 vessel+demon that way, is that right? But I thought it was the demon doing that, so is the ritual price just free and the points spent to reduce the power/knowledge cost? In that case you can get pretty much any demon you want.

>>54477610
my wife is so cute

>>54474975

Nope.

>>54477537

I don't play Exalted.

>>54474544

Livestock thing turns me off.

>>54474219
M ychoices were:

>Hot Chocolate
Refuse. Make Christmas great again.
>Grape
Refuse. No gurantee pop-tart would go out of business and i would starve to death, but with pizza for life i am actually guranteed to be immortal
>Apple Currant
Actually a nice waifu, energetic and clever blonde, just like i like.

All in all good choices, first is useless to me, but at least other too are spot on.

>>54477910
> hates god games
You will be spared because of your love of cyberpunk, heretic. But you walk on thin ice.

>>54477021
Who do you have so far?

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>>54477781
Best kind of dere right after yandere.

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>>54478214
Any dere is best dere, just to be truly loved is enough.
Captcha: Andere

>>54477559
If I recall right, Power isn't used up if you spend it. So once I get like 4 Soul Jars I should be okay.

I'd make a build but I really need to get some sleep.

>>54478214
>Yandere
>best
Look at that shit taste. It's the only dere worse than tsun and that's saying something.

>>54478287
Tsundere is like spice. A light sprinkle makes almost anything better, but too much and your asshole burns.

>>54478297
Only if you're weak.

>>54477559
>>54477989
Also, I'm assuming that demons trapped in Jars can't do anything else apart from acting as mana batteries? Or rather, are demons only capable of doing anything if their vessel says they can (like, I bound the Shade Nicolas into a Shoulder Sprite, he can only provide his knowledge for rituals and not any of his powers)?

Also, the extra power jars give you disappear when you use them for a single ritual and are exclusive for use in rituals alone, right? And is the power you're capable of using from a demon in the Third Eye's description, like, a fraction of your power over theirs (I have 5 power and the Monarch has 8, so I can only exert 5/8th of the strength of his abilities)? And with Rebellion, could I exert even greater power than the demon himself, even temporarily?

Lastly, I'm assuming binding the Beast Below to a low tier vessel won't really do anything since it's just a super predator that grew in Tartaros and isn't upholding any sort of law of nature. Or would its power do something horrible to the world simply by existing?

Background
>Bloodline
>Shades

Demons
>Familiar Animal (Tier 2) * Convert: Celestial Seraph (Tier 4) = 8
Can use Convert's 6 knowledge for rituals.
>Shoulder Sprite (Tier 2) * Nicolas (Tier 7) = 14
Can use Nicolas' 8 knowledge for rituals.
>Jar (Tier 3) * Vampire (Tier 3) = 9
>Jar (Tier 3) * Vampire (Tier 3) = 9
Gained 8 power, consumed 5 power to summon the Monarch and 2 power to summon Rebellion.
>Third Eye (Tier 6) * Monarch (Tier 9) = 54
>Demiplane (Tier 7) * Rebellion (Tier 8) = 56
>Undead (Tier 2) * Bone Crawler (Tier 5) = 10

I'll chill in my demiplane as I contemplate the mysteries of Tartaros and try to one day become a tier 9 demon myself. Bone Crawler should make an excellent bodyguard against other spells while my psychokinesis boosted by Rebellion should handle all else.

>>54478272
Can you explain? Your own power isn't used up, but a Jar's power is; that's how I understand the latter works right now.

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>>54477519
Hmm...

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>>54478287
Take that back.

>>54477990
>>54478005
Not the author, but here's how I understand it: Your ritual points can be used to reduce the knowledge/power requirement. The ratio is up to you. If you choose for them to be bound to your body, you gotta use 1 ritual point for that since you have no knowledge at all. This leaves you 9 points for your demon.

So let's say the demon who took a liking to me was, say, Aschen of the Shades. I use 3 more points to reduce her 3 power points requirement to 0. That leaves me with 6 points. In the end, that's a Tier 6 demon sealed into a tier 1 vessel.

So get how it works from my description?

>>54478340
>>54477635
very funny assholes, but if you want the actual CYOA its here >>54477608

keep making jokes about the first one though, I actually find your posts funny

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>>54477559
>Soul Mate
>Celestials
>Constellation Pleiades
Pleiades was associated with both Goddeses Neith and Nut of Egyptian mythology.

Tl;dr, gonna have my starclad waifu.

>>54477990
>>54478005
>>54478376
Wait, fuck, forget everything I said. You USE the demon's stats instead. So using Aschen as an example again, you use her 6 power and 5 knowledge for the requirements (which you can further reduce with your points).

>>54477559

Sorry if I'm missing something but how do you get access to stuff with Knowledge or Power requirements over 5 if you are not fey?

>>54478005
>>54478403
So, like, if the knowledge or power requirement is beyond their own stats, you can use your ritual points to make up for the difference.

In the end, though, if you want a tier 10 demon, you're essentially forced to binding them into a tier 1 vessel. And that's going to fuck up the world a lot.

>>54478423
Familiars, Jars, and Third Eyes are all generic vessels.

>>54478491

Oh, I entirely missed that Familiars grant you knowledge. Thank you.

>>54477559
>>54478336
Actually, I'm confused as to whether or not Rebellion can use any of its powers if I bind itinto a Demiplane. And am I wrong in assuming that the demon can freely speak to you in any of its forms (with "servile" forms like familiars and dwarfs forcing it into doing stuff for you)? Or does it go through personality death/completely incapable of expressing itself at all if it's sealed into your body or a jar?

>>54478423
>>54477559
Yeah, how do you get 8 knowledge for the Third Eye or Halo? You bind Tier 7 into a familiar and see the world burn?

>>54478523
Yeah, just bind a familiar/sprite with 8 knowledge.

You guys all asking questions about knowledge and power but I'm here wondering whether we are effectively killing the world through demonology. Imagine you trap a high level demon, can it still perform its "divine" function? Does trapping Atlas for example carry the side effect of destroying all life above ground? Also, how the fuck is stuff like Third Eye or Demiplane a thing? What kept previous generations from mind-melding themselves to demons or using them as fuel to create their own utopias?

>>54477559

Which binding do you use to actually bind all these spirits that like human forms other than possession? Dwarf doesn't seem quite there but Monster feels too focused.

>>54477559
Am I the only person who would like to see this cyoa set in a cyberpunk world ruled by demonologist families competing for control?

>>54477847
Looks awesome. And being a god in cyberpunk setting is something new, that's cool. I guess that would be Holy Spirit for me, though God-Emperor looks cool too even if more limited.

>>54478703

Limited isn't entirely a bad thing. It also means you have a more personal connection to stuff.

I'd likely go God Emperor. I'd rather be personally involved than more powerful and more distant.

>>54478591
There should only be problems if the vessel's tier is too low compared to the demon's. Bind Atlas into a Demiplane and it should be alright. The example given for things to go to shit is binding a tier 8 into a jar, a tier 3 vessel. So maybe keep the gap at 3 or 2 for the more powerful monsters (around the tier where they start being responsible for aspects of reality) to be safe.

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>>54478336
Jars regenerate their mana between rituals and as such aren't drained and can be re-used but are only useful for rituals, so it's a point drain for getting the required power to summon higher power demons.
Familiar and shoulder sprites can use some of their powers, druidic gardens can use none and is only useful for their knowledge.
Who knows what Tier 9 demons actually do to the world? Binding them will limit the effect they already have, for some that might be an all together good thing.
>>54478519
In principle bound demons must serve you. In some forms they have no real freedom of movement to follow orders, like when they don't get a body of their own. And endbringers are explicitedly mentioned as not being under your control.
>>54478591
Maybe the previous generations were to fucking smart to do that. Think about that.
Although, honestly, some might have. This world contains wizards and legendary heroes after all.

>>54477559
Trolls>Djinn>Celestials>Fae>Shades

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>>54478711
>Mech Body
>Diagnostics
Medical cyborg and street doc by day
>Sweepers
Merc and assassin by night. I probably get a lot of the implants I sell this way.
>HFB
>Android Guard
The HFB for completing Sweeper jobs and cleanly removing high value implants. The Androids keep me safe in my day job, means I don't have to show my hand and combat skills in the event of trouble.
>Bumblebee
A useful resource for augmentations, either to sell or use myself.
>Wolf
Would make for an excellent right hand girl during my day job.
>Praetorian 52
Mostly wanting him as a friend so as to not have him as an enemy.
>Maze
A good contact for my Sweeper work; let Maze get info on them, maybe tire them out, then close for the kill.
>Reika
For waifuing.

>>54478336
There's 5 points between Shoulder Sprite (2) and Nicolas (7) so I'm not sure your build is viable. I'd like some author input here cause I was planning on doing something similar.

>>54478883
It's viable in the sense that it's possible.
It just might break the world.

>>54478737
Less information which is rather importnat in a high tech society it's rather tideous teleport among your followers all day round to hear what is happening around the world, they can overlook stuff or be embarassed to tell and such. If there is a war you can't intervene in time to help your followers with your powers if someone launches a sneak attack on them, etc.

>>54478852
>Although, honestly, some might have. This world contains wizards and legendary heroes after all.

I'd like to hear more about the world.

>>54478359

Question, where is this from & is there more?

>>54478950
I might do a dlc about a homebase and occupation at some point in the future.

When I wrote this I had a masquerade in mine, that's why familiars and shoulder sprites are different, familiars look like mundane animals. But when coming up with concepts for the demons to preside over I included more and more supernatural stuff. The flavortext mentions heroes, wizardry and monsters.

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>>54478995

>>54478995
Not sure whether you're Tok or some random anon, but this has lost what (very) little entertainment value it had long ago.

>>54478856
My shade build will destroy your troll build.

>>54478852
>In some forms they have no real freedom of movement to follow orders, like when they don't get a body of their own.
Oh, thanks, I'll take this as a general guideline then. As long as they're able to exert some sort of influence, they should be able to exert a corresponding level of their own strength, taking into account the strength of the vessels they're in.

But yeah, would a demon be incapable of speaking at all if they get bound into your body or a third eye?

>>54478883
I was thinking that Nicolas wasn't so important, though. Or rather, it's best if he's sealed away since all he does is buy souls to burn. He's not really responsible for anything vital and, at worst, may just unbalance the powers of shades and the like. It's at tier 8 where they start being responsible for important facets of reality.

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>>54478980
I honestly prefer the masquerade idea. I mean, our world has stories of legendary heroes and wizards too but that doesn't mean the masses believe/know they are real.

Settings with masquerades are automatically top tier. Your cyoa reminds me a bit of World of Darkness.

>>54476527
>Musica Artis
>Musica Internitus
>Musica corporis(2nd)
I can create anything i want, Entropy is my bitch And i can Be the little girl And all this by singing my life is pretty much solved, better not end up mute.

>>54479016
Good luck, I'm behind 9000 gargoyles.

>>54478883
>>54479022
I mean, think about it. Would binding a tier 6 entity like Scratch into your body do anything horrible to the world? Maybe to you, after other demons notice what you've done and notice a powerful new player on the board, but I think the world would be fine without some fleshcrafting demon going around lying to people and transforming them into torturous, mutilated appearances.

>>54479022
>would a demon be incapable of speaking at all if they get bound into your body or a third eye?
yes, they would be incapable
but it could be argued that someone with a third eye *is* the demon as much as they are themselves

>>54477559
Are jars the only way to get power dots? Does the Bound to Tool/Body vessels allow a demon to use a dot for you?

>>54476486
The grassland spirit
The bridal spirit
The orphan
Perfect for a idyllic rural life, grassland spirit can make rain so don't event have to water the crops.

1 point left, probably take the hamlet spirit.

>>54479109
Yes, jars are how you get power dots.

>>54477559
So how does Soulmate work? How does anything else work?
This CYOA confuses me greatly.

>>54478297
Only mentally challenged people like Tsunderes. No sane person would keep hanging out with a girl who clearly hates your guts.

>>54479180
That's not what Tsundere is and you fucking know it.

>>54478711
>Gene Alteration

>Crisis Response

>Sweepers

>Gantz Suit
>Renown

>Reika
>Trixie Star
>Albina
>Wolf
>Praetorian
>Michelle Lee
>Geist

>>54479109
>>54479121
If you're a Celestial demonologist, you can also get power from binding a demon into a Halo.

>>54479161
In a nutshell; pick your favourite family of demons. Get some jars and familiars. Summon high level shit. Become a god.

This is one of those cyoas where 75% of options are just lore and not worth taking.

It's fucking good though. My only complaint is that Djinn are retards and getting knowledge points from them is a tremendous hassle.

I like the options but I feel like the initial structure is inadequately robust and balanced to make the CYOA fun to do.

>>54479208
>Bind all of time-space into a Halo
>What's the worst that could happen.png

>>54477559
Ouranos and Mammon do not have a "power requesed to summon" stat. Not even the "-" of low tier demons.

>>54477559
>Soulmate
>Fae
>Magic domain
>Titania of spring
Having Titania as waifu sounds fucking great, we could even Conspire to enslave humanity together you know, the kind of things lovers do.

>>54479381
It's a Tier 6 vessel, so you've got some leeway there.

And you're just a conduit for them. It says you become an extension of their being. So nothing really horrible happens to the planet, in all likelihood (not unless you bind Ouranos). But to you and your own sense of self? Hmmmm.

>>54479199
That's exactly what a Tsundere is.

>>54479235
I meant the mechanics more than the setting and point of the cyoa.
More specifically, how Soulmate works.
I just want an angel waifu :(

>>54477847
Hell yeah, I love it.

>>54477559
What does intrinsic occult power do? It says that knowledge determines what vessels you can use, but what do you use the power that you get from your starting choice do exactly?

>>54477608
What's behind the door?

>>54479821
knowledge is for the vessel, power is for the demon.

>>54479821
Power decides what demons you're capable of summoning (the power cost is listed at the bottom). You can use jars to increase your limit (they don't disappear when used) and the Halo vessel lets you replace your power stat with the demon's.

Power also determines how much of the demon's power you're capable of using for the Third Eye vessel (jars don't help here as they're exclusively only for covering the power cost of the ritual).

>>54479851
>>54479868
How does one increase power/knowledge aside from the jar? Do you add a demon's stats to your own and work your way up, summoning less powerful demons to get to higher power ones?

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>>54479830
>he saves the CYOA but not the box

I'm here to save the day anon, no worries.

>>54479893
>How does one increase power/knowledge aside from the jar? Do you add a demon's stats to your own and work your way up, summoning less powerful demons to get to higher power ones?
The jar lets you siphon up to 5 power max from a single demon, so if you're going to summon a demon into a jar, just get what you need at the cheapest cost. If the demon has 6 power, that extra 1 power is lost. There's no other benefit to the jar apart from increasing how much power you can use for rituals.

The only other way to increase power is through the Halo vessel which increases your own personal power to the demon you bind into the Halo has. These are the only 2 methods of increasing power.

As for knowledge, the Familiar/Bound Sprite vessels allow you to substitute your own knowledge with that of the demon's (it doesn't add to your stat like the Jar vessel does). You can exchange your own knowledge stat with the demon's in the Third Eye and Halo vessels.

>>54479904
I never save boxes, unless it's some kind of lore or something. Taking chances with powers that will change your life is stupid.

>>54479962
People do it. It's choose your own adventure. If the author decided to add it, and people choose it, then you've no right to deny them that because you personally disagree.

I mean, it's your right to not go for the mystery box, I think that's probably a smart way of going about doing things, but to not save it because you don't want it is just half arsing things.

Does anyone have the fortune cookie cyoa?

>>54479997
>you've no right to deny them that
whoa

>>54479962
But that box is the waifu option therefore it is the best choice.

>>54479959
Okay, but Third Eye and Halo require way more knowledge than any of the starting options. How do you get up to that amount of knowledge in the first place?

>>54480075
Summon familiars/sprites, anon. That will fulfill the knowledge requirement. You use that to climb up to the higher tier vessels which allow you to replace your own knowledge stat with the highest ones.

>>54477559
Alright fuckers. I need an answer and I need it now. How do I make sense of this system?

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>>54479631
No you fool, a tsundere just has trouble communicating her true feelings.

>>54480153
Okay, I've been asking that and it's still a bit unclear. It would have been nice if it was explained in the CYOA, but I think the gist of it is that that you purchase demons in familiar form to increase knowledge and demons in jars to increase power, eventually working your way up to higher tier demons. Maybe.

>>54478995
>>54479003
>>54479023
good shit

>>54480195
Bitch I've consumed more harem anime, manga , LNs and VNs than any person should. I KNOW what I'm talking about.

>>54480197
Than what about Soulmate? I want to waifu a concept of reality, and I can barely make heads or tails of the normal system.

>>54480263
Maybe one day I will be able to give Thoth headpats in real life for gifting this perfection upon me...

>>54480286
Thanks anon!

>>54477559
The wording for the Jar makes it seem like you can add the dots of power from multiple Jars. That seems like it would lead to absurd consequences. Three Ghouls providing more power than Andromeda has for example.

>>54479402
Oh, I'll fix that. It's supposed to be twelve like the other tier 10's.
>>54479635
Choose your waifu, is her power less than the required power to summon? Subtract the difference from your point pool. Choose a body for her, is her knowledge less than the required knowledge? Subtract the difference from the point pool.
The amount of points you have left should be equal or greater than the tier of the demon times the tier of the vessel. If not choose a different waifu or body.

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>>54480227
I doubt it was more than me, and you are plain wrong.
The moment you puncture their shell they melt like wax in your hands.
They're called tsunDERE for a reason.

>>54480303
That's because you can only use them for rituals. It's not intrinsic power, they don't effect how much demonic power you can use with a demon bound to your body, so they don't actually make you as powerful as Andromeda.

>>54480235
Soulmate is just "You have ten points, that lets you get a waifu that would normally require 10 power or less to summon."

>>54480315
The problem is that it's just not worth the effort, not to mention that in real life the whole Tsun part is a big reason why you should stay away from them, which is the whole point of this discussion. Also, your argument only applies to classical tsunderes which stay dere once you've broken them and the majority of the tsunderes nowadays revert to being bitch in a matter of minutes.

>>54480357
>t. anon who has never met a tsundere and has never left his basement

>>54480342
no... because it says you use their power for the summoning. Also if that was all you needed points for you would be able to summon anything.

>>54480197
>>54480113
So what a re the "devastating consequances" of bounding a tier 7 inot a familliar?

>>54480308
Thanks, I think I get it now.
What happens when the waifu has knowledge and power above required, do I need to balance that with the ten points?

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>>54480357
>in real life
We are talking about fictional characters here, dear Anon.

>>54480432
tsunderes exist you moron

>>54480432
I'm aware, yes.

>>54480441
Yes but we are talking about the fictional variety here.
>>54480447
Why mention real life bitches as an argument against tsunderes then?

>>54480483
real life bitches are not real tsunderes

>>54480415
No, then she just has more than required. Nothing happens.
>>54480335
Similarly, familiars help you set up rituals but you can't use their knowledge to better understand your demons, they'd have to tell you about it. Many would probably choose not to reveal vital information to you if you didn't explicedly order them to.

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>>54480509
Then why mention them in a discussion about tsunderes?

>>54480483
My point is that tsunderes are a shit choice which you wouldn't even consider an option in real scenario. Fictional or not, shity personalities are shity personalities, the fact that they're even an option in most stories is already baffling enough but them being the main heroine in most cases, let alone people existing who actually like them makes absolutely no sense.

>>54480227
tsundere dont hate the person, they act abrasive due to reasons- usually trouble with their feelings

>>54480540
i was not the one that brought it up, but bitches are not tsunderes, they are bitches

>>54480557
Which you would know how if you were the affected person?

>>54480571
Bitches aren't tsunderes but tsunderes are bitches.

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>tfw anon thinks Tsunderes exist in real life

Stick to cyoas, sweetie.

>>54480577
Because of the times they act dere.

>>54480593
>t.anon who has never met a tsundere

>>54480601
they exist you mongoloid trash

>>54480556
because most if not all of the characters would not function or be tolerated in real life- tsunderes in real life are bitches, yanderes get the cops called on them by any sane person

the reason they are common is because they naturally give a clear progression towards the MC - tsun>dere, same reason the MC starts weak and powers up

>>54480577
tells i guess, do they blush? do they have issues dealing with their emotions

>>54477559
Okay, so here's my first build for this. I have no idea if this is actually how it works, but here goes.


Method: Occultism
+200 Ritual Points
+0 Power
+5 Knowledge

Family: Fae

Demon #1: Bog Fairy in a Jar (-9)
+2 Power

181 Ritual Points
2 Power
5 Knowledge

Demon #2: Unicorn in a Jar (-12)
+5 Power

169 Points
7 Power
5 Knowledge

Demon #3: Plague Lord in a Jar (-12)
+5 Power

157 Points
12 Power
5 Knowledge

Demon #4: The Deceiver as a Familiar (-14)
Swap to 8 Knowledge

143 Points
12 Power
8 Knowledge

Demon #5: Gaia’s Scribe as a Third Eye (-54)
Swap to 9 Knowledge

89 Points
12 Power
9 Knowledge

Demon #6: Gaia as a Demiplane (-70)

19 Points
12 Power
9 Knowledge

And I have no idea where to go from there because I just summoned the personification of all life in the form of a demiplane the size of a moon. Party, I guess?

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>>54480556
>shity personalities are shity personalities
But the entire point is that in reality they're very sweet and caring, just awkward at first.

>>54480602
Again, this would require actually spending enough time with them to get them to act dere, which you wouldn't do in the first place because of the tsun behaviour. Unless, of course, you're so deluded you they're only acting that way because they have trouble expressing themselves instead of actualy disliking you.
>>54480643
Both me.
1 Still doesn't make sense.
2 Not a reliable method.

>>54480643
you have never met a real life tsundere, you are just making assumptions, besides not like you would ever meet a tsundere becouse you are such a failure that nobody ever will be attracted to you, so don't worry about them

>>54480621
Sure they do, sweetie. We call them insane bitches. It might be really cute when an anime girl blushes and punches the mc in the face, but in real life that shit ain't funny.

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>>54480683
>>/r9k/

>>54480686
you are objectively wrong, everything about real life is exaggereted in animes in order to have comical value, but you would never know this becouse you are an imbecile retarded twat.
a real life tsundere will at most insult you or act as if they are not interested in you at all

>>54480678
Kuu and Danderes are awkward at first, tsunderes are mean and annoying, it doesn't matter how they actually are if that's the first impression they're giving of.
For fucks sake do you people even read my arguments?

>>54480707
We call that an abusive relationship, honey.

>>54480680
Well anon, everyone else seems to get along with their tsunderes just fine. I think you just need to accept they're for other people and not for you, and thats okay.

>>54480686
and a real life yandere would be under house arrest if not jail the first time she did a yandere thing

and most protagonists would be universally despised outcasts, and the idiot savant isnt rewarded or appreciated for obvious reasons

ITS ALMOST LIKE ANIME IS FANTASY

Remember to not answer to trolls, attention horses and to improve thread quality.

>>54480711
>it doesn't matter how they actually are if that's the first impression they're giving of.
Why not?

>>54480707
And then? When you meet a person who insults and ignores you, obvious signs of not liking you, do you think to yourself 'Man, this girl who has made a point of showing her dislike of me MUST be a tsundere, a character archetype meant for 2d, flat characters!'

>>54480732
Exactly. Anime is fantasy and so are tsunderes. They exist in cyoas though and that's all that matters.

>>54480735
Good advice anon

Time to post CYOAs instead.

>>54480707
the sheer amout of retarded butthurt of this post is astounding

Hey anons, what exactly do you think makes for a good cyoa? I mostly just want to hear your opinions on the matter. Is it a variety of choices and customization? Some Random elements? Builds leading up to an ending of some sort?

>>54480724
you are an idiot, the whole point of the tsundere is that they cannot deal with their emotions towards their S.O. that is why eventually when you get under their skin they become dere, becouse the doubt or issue which got in the way of their emotions is gone.
Essentially the only way to turn a real life Tsundere into it's dere part is to smother her/him with love until she/him breaks and gives in

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>>54473078
I want a bf. Which cyoa has the best bfs?

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>>54480730
Yeah, the hatred almost seems traumatic.
I wonder what happened to make him this way?

>>54480522
So if I picked a tier 5 demon I would have to use a tier 2 vessel and all of my (10) ritual points, right?

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>>54480757

>>54480674
That is how it works.
Obviously you needed to make sacrifices in order to be able to do that. Someone content to stay in the lower regions would be able to create a small army of demonic minions instead.

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>>54480773
You sound like a rapist.

>>54480752
a tsundere is the result of emotions which the person cannot come to terms with, if someone is un-usually hostile towards you for no aparent reason then likelyhood is they are a tsundere

>>54480793
Yes.

>>54480803
you sound like an ignorant idiot, you most likely are a 200 lbs neckbeard which gets offended by anything becouse you know you are a fat fuck and worth nothing

>>54480806
Or a child. Tsundere personality is seen in most children with their first crushes.

>>54480746
>>54480730
See>>54480752
>>54480782
I am a sane person who dislikes people who are needlessly mean to me instead of thinking that they're lusting after me.
Also way too many harem anime with shitty childhoodfriend/tsundere main heroines.
Mostly the latter.

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>>54480803
That's cruel.

>>54476527
>Strife made a new cyoa
>I'm late to the party

Still making my day better.

>Musica Interitus
>Musica Corporis: Both Parts

My build is boring but it's what I must do. They're all useful, especially if Oratis works for more than simply speaking to another individual. If it works for text and recorded speech... Actually, how would Musica Oratis work with recordings? Say you sung the song for an audience of actors, then filmed them for an hour. Would all viewers understand them, or do the effects need to be targetted towards individuals?

>>54480755
>tsunderes
in the way anime shows them sure, but people who go abrasive to deal with their feeling do exist

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>>54480826
Look, anon. All I'm saying is that the way into a girl's heart is not through persistence or "getting under her skin". If you invite a girl to dinner and she says no, then that means no. Look on the bright side: you get to eat dinner for 2! Neither should you let yourself be insulted by the person you're dating. If she says - for example - you have a fat ass, then end the relationship and treat yourself to some cake.

Only in cyoas should you engage in relationships with "tsunderes".

>>54480771
For me its a mix of character building and then having something for that character to interact with; companions ideally, but even better as part of a setting as whole.

Not incidentally my favourite CYOAs are Hero Academy and Fulcrum.

>>54480860
but the MC doesent usually think the tsundere is after his dick, they just tolerate them for reasons- and then they snap and go dere

>>54478711
Body enhancement
>A.I Augment

Profession
>Racer

Alter Ego
>Sweeper-with the robot car I can be the heavy and the get away

Specials
>Assisted A.R.
>Orbital Frame-there;s no rule my mech can't transform and be a race car

Friends & Connections
>Trixie Starr- for parts and jobs
>Bumblebee-for repairs string free sex
>Albina-a sugar momma if I need one and i love rough sex
>Caitlin McNair-gotta love a chalenge and I love fiery redheads
>Geist-to keep my electronics safe and to have an A.I. waifu
>Micah-A good sweeper partner

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>>54480757

>>54480674
Get some dwarves to tend to you in your eternal demiplane garden party.
Maybe a monster to defend yourself from party poopers.

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>>54480860
Sounds like you should watch better anime then.

>>54480822
Rip. There goes my idea of YHWH being madly in love with me despite being a mere mortal.

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>>54473993
>First Age Artifact - 15

>Curvy +2
>Beautiful +6
>6'-6'5 +2
>E-cup +4
>Bubble +4
>Adaptive vagina +6
>Young (21) +2
>White hair +4
>Red eyes +2
>Red skin +4
>Feminine voice +0

>Tools-Make-The-Craftsman Understanding +2
>Youthful Mountains -1
>Supple Joints -2
>Laughing At The Wind Bears -2
>Eloquent Dimorphic Argument (feminine) +1
>Man-Pelt Amendment (no unsightly body hair) +1
>Overthrow of the Lunar Tyrant -2
>Throat-Taming Exercise +1
>Ardor Glance Indication +1
>Tattoo + Calligraphy of the Body Erotic x3 +3
>Fire-Body Infusion +5
>Fire-Thought Intrusion +5
>Biomotonic Cleansing -3
>Cleanliness Near Godliness -3

Rapturous Sheet-Drenching Nightmares x2 +6
Maiden-Bent Cognition +3
>Fetishized Valor +5
>Star-Fixed Mating Dance +1 (The day of a Solar Eclipse - if it must be within a calendar year, fuck it, Spring Equinox)

>Eliminated Servitude +0
>Tears of the Maidens x4 -4
>Courtesan +15

>Enlightened Essence -5
>Essence Refinement -10
>Martial Arts Style + Erotic Style - 5
>Time-Denying Kata -5
>Longevity x2 -20

>The Sutra of the Desired Maiden -8

>>54480795
Magicians guild, magic aptitude. Academia isn't so bad after all.

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>>54480939

>>54477559
If I wanted a humanoid waifu I can fug of relatively high tier, what vessel should I use?

>>54480910
i know you idiot, i know that i would never date myself it's just that, you know, its not always necesarily that they hate you when they get mean.
I suppose that what im trying to say is that it's not meant to hurt you, it is some stupid kind of defense system in order to push people whom you feel atracted away so you don't have to deal with your own insecurities, becouse you are not ready for a real relationship and you act like an idiot, and it's embarrasing and you don't want to ruin it so you run away and you are a coward but you cannot help it, so you do it in hopes that the other person will insult you and get away from you in hopes that the feelings you have for them will go away and it's stupid

>>54480927
Yeah, the reason being to please people who are into shity characters.
>>54480964
>implying there are good harem anime in the first place

>>54480963
>le XD daddy hurts me but teehee!
Abuse is no joke, anon. If you are reaching out for help, please call up a domestic abuse hotline.

>>54480952
Party poopers? Like the kind of people that don't appreciate all living beings getting turned into a garden party for one guy?

>>54480999
monster