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Old stuff edition

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RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

>Thread Question
How old is your commander? The oldest card in your deck? Your deck's average?
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New thread, still looking for criticism on this Grenzo list. MODO 1v1 rules so no sol ring or doomsday.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/grenzo-the-value-warden/
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>>54430307
Why the fuck would you play that card?

It shuts down... everything but colorless decks. Including your own deck.
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>>54430383
kruphix god stuffed with eldrazi and other colorless spells.
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New set, new commanders, and The Locust God seems like he's an interesting take on Izzet that isn't spellslinging.

Here's the decklist:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/19-07-17-fear-the-swarm/

Any suggestions?
I should probably take out Jori En, she doesn't do much given that I'm not likely to care about a second spell.
Another counterspell, maybe?
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are fast lands any useful in edh? it's pretty low on the edhrec list
should i run a brushland instead maybe? similar price
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>>54430434
massive raid
winds of change instead of magmatic insight
coastal piracy
stranglehold instead of fevered visions (i just personally hate playing any kind of howling mine effect)

coat of arms
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>>54430434
also, cut all non-basics.

become enlightened and run back to basics/blood moon
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>>54430545
I like them a lot when running something with low cost but color intensive cards. Like If you have a lot of 2-3 CMC cards with WW, GG or GW in their cost this kind of early color fixing is great.

I could just be a shitter though
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>>54430383
>green
>needing lands
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>>54430545
They're okay, but I'd say that there's way too many downsides compared to just basic shocks and I'd rather run even the stupid tangolands over fastlands.
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>>54430633
>>54430603
Ah, my bad, I forgot to mention that the deck is semi budget, so a lot of $10+ cards are out of my reach unless I can use them in mutiple decks.
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>>54430545
>are fast lands any useful in edh?
no
>are fast lands useful in cedh?
yeah ish
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>>54430545
Painlands are generally better than fast lands. Buddy lands too.
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>>54430646
>I could just be a shitter though
i know that feel anon
>>54430679
why are "tango lands" stupid?
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>tfw started typing up this shit before I noticed we moved to a new thread
Fuck you it's deck list time

>>54426583
>Krenko
Gobbos
>Yahenni
Voltron/sacc outlets
>Yidris
Wheels
>Tazri
Allies tribal
>Skeleton Ship
Skeletons/-1/-1 counter tribal
>Kaervek
Reverse Enchantress
>Mina/Denn
Gruul fatties
>Selvala
Enchantress/secret Krond deck
>Karlov
Lifegain Voltron
>Kruphix
Mill/big X spells
>Mishra
Brothers Saga themed artifacts deck with the usual Mishra staples
>Tana/Sidar Kondo
Tokens
>Anafenza
Abzan tribal +1/+1
>Sidisi
Zombies/Dredge
>Queen Marchesa
Pillowfort

>Mageta the Lion
Boardwipes/Indestructible stuff
>Gwafa Hazid
Counters/politics
>Yasova Dragonclaw
Steal.dec
>Saskia
Creatures/Artifacts/Land only (DUDE FUCK MAGICS)
>Dakkon Blackblade
Lands matter
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Is there a commander or situation where this combo can work best?
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>>54430817
Where's the combo?
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>>54430817
... what's the combo? Giving Deadbridge Chant indestructible? That card is rarely even worth removing in the first place.
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>>54430817
Karador would I guess but that's not a "combo" in the slightest
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>>54430817
combo?
....Are you making the Deadbridge chant indestructible? I dont get it anon.

I feel like this is bait
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>>54430817
>spicy_tech.png
Anon, are you retarded or next level?
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>>54430681
Elixir of immortality
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>>54430771
Because they're inefficient and only good thing about them is that they're fetchable. Occasionally they etb untapped and that's why they're better than the new cycling fetchable lands.
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>>54430901
Yes, what about it?
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>>54430848
>>54430857
>>54430862
>>54430876
>>54430891
It's two cards working together to represent a threat, that's literally what a combo is unless you're LARPing as Jace Beleren.
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>>54430817
>indestructible enchantment deadbridge
All you need is liquid metal coating, March of the Machines, Prismatic Omen and Life and Limb.
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>>54430939
Mistake, meant to type cranial archive.
Works as yard hate and to shuffle your own shit.

Also draws you a card
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>>54430974
Guess I forgot imprisoned by the moon, blood moon and urborg, but you get the point.
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Are there any Assemble the Legion-like effects in Temur colors?
I'm trying to add consistent sac fodder to my Yasova.
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>>54430987
I like it, thank you.
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>>54430965
So what you really want to know is how to make Deadbridge better.
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>>54430965
>a threat
lol
nice 10 mana you spent on that, I hope you didn't expect to have that by the time you got to your next upkeep. If anything the prospect of a juicy 2 for 1 will make this even more of a target
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>>54430965
>Not roleplaying as Jace Beleren
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>>54431019
The green enchant that spawns eldrazi spawn, and the greed devoid enchant that spawns eldrazi scions
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>>54431019
Awakening Zone
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>>54430965
>be me
>Abzan mirror match
>have 10 mana
>play Deadbridge Chant and Indestructibility
>opponent has 10 mana
>plays Protean Hulk and wins
Synergy and Combo are not synonyms.
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>>54430926
well, they sorta work on a budget, i guess?
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>>54430974
>>54431006
Wait wait wait, what? What the fuck are you on about?
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>>54430965
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>>54430965
Vedalken orrery
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>>54431142
made me laugh

10/10
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>>54431142
Jesus, anon! I thought we agreed not to combo off!
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>>54430965
That's not even synergy. Giving Deadbridge Chant indestructibility does fucking nothing. I feel like I'm being baited.
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>want to make a captain sisay deck
>costs an arm and a leg
>want to make yisan
>also will cost an arm and a leg to build
>sold most of my UR spellslinger cards for legacy DnT pieces
>my other decks lose to board wipes

I can never have fun in edh
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>>54431142
>we roll dice to see who goes first
>I go last
>first player goes "scorching desert, target anon, pass"
>I'm absolutely stunned
>I go down to 39 life before it's even my turn
>he doesn't even apologize
I haven't even had one turn, so it was impossible for me to interact with the trigger. If he let me just play one island I could have stifled the trigger and still been at 40 life. Instead he targets me out of pure spite. We all talked about it and it was pretty clear that he only wanted me to be at 39 life so that I wouldn't win. He was going all on about how he is perfectly allowed to scorch me, but he didn't even think for a second about how I felt about it. It would have been infinitely preferable if he gave me just one turn to get up stifle mana or find a way to gain some life. Instead he tries to act like just because the game lets him do something that its ok and my feelings don't matter. We all agreed that targeting me was unnecessarily spiteful considering he had another land in hand he could play, or he could have mulliganed to a hand that had less hateful cards. We all agreed to just play as if I was at 40.

What I don't get is how people like him think its a good idea to play like that with regular playgroups. You know that by hitting me with scorching desert, it's just going to make me bring out my five color stonerain.dek and completely remove his ability to play next game. Since then we have houseruled that you're not allowed to hurt others players if they don't have a way to interact with it. Our players that have some social awareness and aren't completely autistic have all agreed with this rule and it has done a great job of weeding out the players that have offensive personality traits, such as having skin any thicker than plastic food wrap.
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>>54431129
Sure, but scars fastlands are more expensive than tangos. On budget I wouldn't use fastlands and fetches obviously and I'd use many of the taplands that are not vivids.
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>>54431214
>Yisan
>costing an arm and a leg
Yisan can be very good for $200 or less.
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>>54431214
Krenko etb tribal
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>>54431228
Is this fresh pasta? I like it. Not quite as much as the anon with the "no bullying" rules at his LGS though.
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>>54431019
Zendikar's Roil, Awakening Zone, From Beyond, Spider Spawning, Fable of Wolf and Owl, Feed the Pack, Gobin Assault, Rite of the Raging Storm, and Thopter Spy Network.
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>>54431288
relatively new, it's supposed to point out the idiocy of getting mad about spite-scooping
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So ive got a Gisa and Geralf Commander deck, and im trying to decide whether I should port it over to a scarab god deck since I just opened him up. Thoughts?
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>>54430383
There's a card that turns every Elf into Llanowar Elf.
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>be azorius
>hold priority a lot because i have 10 billion mana up with vedalken orrery
>opponent tries to remove my vedalken orrery
>flash in clever impersonator to copy my vedalken orrery to make a spare one
>continue doing nothing

who else /azorius/ here
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>>54431019
This deserves an argument. Is Assemble the Legion a good card in EDH?
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>>54431316
>Works as yard hate and to shuffle your own shit.
Off-topic but you know what bugs me about Llanowar Elves? How people run them as 4-ofs in formats that have plenty of functionally identical mana elves for G. Getting your llanowar elves hit by something like cabal therapy isn't a huge risk and it might never even fucking happen, but there's literally no downside to running a mix of fyndhorn, llanowars, elvish mystics, etc. instead of picking one and using 4 of them.
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>>54431319
Considering it comes down fairly late usually and the effect is marginal at best for the first couple of turns - not really too exciting
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>>54431288
Nah, gets posted every few threads.
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>>54431318
Oh, I certainly am.

>have phyrexian ingester out in Brago
>make a million tokens with strionic, eldrazi skyspawner and sol ring
>cast mirrorweave in a 4 player game, targeting phyrexian ingester
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>>54431376
I have no idea why this quoted the wrong post.
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>>54431319
>Cons
Comes down turn 5ish
Takes forever to get going
Easy to remove

>Pros
Wins game if not removed
Anointed Procession was just printed
Naya Parallel Lives
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>>54431319
Maybe if no one plays combos and everyone has very slow decks
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>>54431319
It's a five mana enchantment with no protection that will do nothing until the turn had passed back around to you. It's shit, but the best Boris has.
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>>54431319
in the right deck yes

dies to removal doesn't apply in edh, its the battlecruiser format and legion is battlecruiser as fuck
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>>54431243
i meant the tangos work on a budget. they dont seem overly expensive to me, but indeed, i run a lot of taplands. i wanted to treat myself to a few better ones though, maybe i'll just stick to brushland, that's a nice treat.
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>>54431424
dies to removal is a completely legit argument though. some creatures don't care about being removed, mostly ETB creatures, and that's why ETB creatures are king in EDH
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>>54431319
Boros is really bad at incremental advantage cards, so this deserves a slot if you need something grindy in the format's worst color combination for grindy games.

I've won off this followed by MLD.
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>>54431319
It's meant to be played right before destroying your opponents lands or after if you floated the mana in response to your armageddon
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Do any of you guys play european highlander? Really hard to find resources for this, but I want to do research before buying into it
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how many token doublers can I get in saskia?
>Parallel Lives
>Doubling Season
>Anointed Precession
>Primal Vigor

is there anything else I'm not aware of?
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>>54431319
It's best friend is Descent Into Madness
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>>54431386

Oh Brago, you're my favorite.

>>doing Brago things
>>have Panharmonicon out.
>>kick Rite of Replication on Jace's Mindseeker.
>>throw down Archaeomancer
>>do it all over again
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>>54431536
>>Primal Vigor
are you sure you want a symmetrical doubler?
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>>54431536
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>>54431536
Not doubling specifically, but you might have some use for Populate cards
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>>54431536
Rhys the Redeemed.
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>>54431575
with Iroas and flying tokens it's not the worst thing ever

I've also only seen it in about 6 games and played it in two of them, but I'll definitely be replacing it with >>54431613
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>>54430814
All decks are fueled by DUFF
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>>54431319
I like it. People underestimate slow to start enchantments, but it doesn't draw hate the way combos do and it isn't as though you can't back it up with protection.

I dunno. I think people definitely run worse do nothing enchantments.
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>>54431484
Sure, but not devolving the game into who can ETB or combo off the hardest is what separates us from the savages.
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>>54430814
Any particularly spicy tech for Tana/Sidar? In the middle of trying to put those two together myself.
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I just pulled:

2 the scarab gods
1 champion of wits
1 hour of devastaion
1 foil full art plains

out of a bundle

is that good?
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>>54431836
Sure.
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>>54431836
Scarab God is worth money, so yes.
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I want to try building a partner commander with Ravos and maybe Vial Smasher or Kydele, but I feel like I'd only ever cast one of them and ignore the other

partners don't actually end up playing like that do they?
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>>54432196
Vial Smasher and Kydele probably wouldn't because they're both good.
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>>54431836
2x$13
1xWho Cares
1x$7
1x$5

It's fine.
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>>54432196
Need ramp? Got card draw? Cast Kydele

Ready to start smashing some vials? Cast Vial Smasher. I wish prophet of Kruphix was still alive to go bonkers with the gob, but a seedborn or as foretold should start burning everyone preety quick
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How do you build him /tg/ ?
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Can anyone explain to me how exactly is the new Bolas good? even in Standard.. i just cannot see how he can do anything. 7 manas for a guy that is not an imminent threat unless he top decks something good.
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I found a Kalemne deck for 20$ and bought it for just Gisela and Magus of the wheel.

Even if it's the worst piece of shit Wizards has printed for a Commander set it should be fine to play against my casual friends, right?
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>>54432397
Once the Eldrazi rotate out he will be the biggest guy on the plane

Until dinosaurs arrive
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EDH is the most common format in my current area, and I'd like to join in casually just to play with friends.

That said, I enjoy aggressive decks and I don't like politicking, which is probably why I haven't already built an EDH deck. Is there any sort of deck archetype that would be enjoyable for someone like me?
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>>54432448
Just play a quick combo deck.

You could go Rafiq the Many and just stack exalted and good equips for ez voltron but voltron gets worse the more players at the table you have.

This is edh though so unless you are shelling out for the right tutors and ramp you will not be aggressive with anything at a good table.
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>>54432352
flash hulk
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>>54432448
If you really feel strongly against politics you could make a deck around disrupting it.
You could make an R/x/x deck based around effects like Goblin spymaster and avatar of slaughter. That has the potential to be fun and shake things up.
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>>54432448
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser.
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>>54432448

Play Borborygmos Enraged. 51 Basic Lands, and whatever the fuck else sounds cool. Smash shit and throw mountains at people.
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>>54432448
gruul barbarian political deck
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>>54432551
>>54432555
I like these suggestions. Thanks /tg/.
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>>54432448
Rakdos, Lord of tits
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>>54432629
Rakdos, Lord of Eldrazi
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What do you think of Vial Smasher + Kraum as a Grixis control/burn? Any other partners that pair well with smasher?
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>>54432629
Tits equals riots. Apparently my thumbs are too thick for Swype.

>>54432671
Sure, you run some, but the real winners in a rakdos deck are knollspine dragon and maga, traitor to mortals.
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>>54430307
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.
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>>54430814
How does mishra work in edh? Wouldn't the ability be kinda useless
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Advise me /edh/ should I buy the Commander Anthology or buy a whole bunch of singles and sleeves instead
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>>54432978
There's a real convoluted way involving copying artifacts and bouncing the cards to your hand, similar to making granduer work, but essentially it is useless.
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Anyone play with or against a Karlov deck? How does it fair?
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>>54432996
Find a commander you like and buy singles. Find decklists online and ask people here for help. Seriously, there is so many interesting commanders. Being 1000000th Meren in the world is boring. Unless you are dead set on something prepared for you by WotC, just start from scratch.
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>>54432996
What's your situation? Just getting into the format? Confident enough to build your own deck? More than yourself partaking these cards?
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>>54432978
>>54433007
Possibility Storm, Nether Void, Blood Funnel, Planar Chaos+general Grixis Artifact goodstuff.
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>>54431303
To be fair, spite-scooping is bullshit
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>>54433090
Spite-Scooping is bullshit. Spite-Suicide is hilarious.
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>>54433045
>>54433057
Long time player looking to pick up Kaalia and Freyalise for "cheap"
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When should I pick up 3 or 4 Ramunap Excavators?

I know crucible is a great card but I dont feel like it being stuck on a 1/3 stick printed at rare that will be opened to shit should be worth $5 after standard rotation.

If I was buying one it wouldn't be a thing but Jund, Golgari and Sultai all kinda want one.
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>>54432352
Greater good, conspiracy, rooftop storm, and eldrazi.
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>>54433022
Loses hard to artifact and enchantment hate.
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When do you think we'll know more about this year precons?
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yo I think my Azorius blink deck needs a couple of wincons. I just played a game on xmage that lasted like 3 hours and I ended up winning by milling with Jace's Mindseeker.

Does UW blink have any interesting wincon options that aren't stax?
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>>54433245
Excavators are better for And decks that run green and black because of efficient recursion in those colors and many great tutor options.
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>>54433341
1-2 months
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>>54433366
hm
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>>54432404
Yes and don't worry, 2014 Nahiri was worse. Her precon actually had some pretty good uniques: Bastion Commander, Dawnbreak Reclaimer, Blade of Selves, and Magus
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>>54433547
Umm. No. No she didn't.
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>>54431319
Meta dependent. I love it but it shines less in fast/combo metas. Like someone said it is super battle cruiser. Don't expect ti to outright win 40 life multiplayer games but It's got plenty of uses. Worst case scenario it is removal bait. Combine with mld or board wipes for best results.
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>>54431743
How do you like the Marchesa deck and what is it like? I'm thinking of building her but haven't decided on a theme. I was going to try to just fit in as many playable old enchantments as possible.
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>>54433245
Just buy them desu. The price is never going to go down to being a dollar rare so just get however many you'll use. This card will be played in EDH forever and could even see play in Legacy or Vintage so it's a waste of time to wait 2 years until it rotates from Standard and probably drops 1 dollar.
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>>54433337
It comes out in 1 month so I predict we get spoilers in 2 or 3 weeks.
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>>54432966
>posting wrong link on purpose.
Correct link: https://discord.gg/4f4gz
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>>54434423
But that's so far away.
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>>54430307
>How old is your commander?
Zirilan is almost old enough to buy beer
>The oldest card in your deck?
I have a Tormod's Crypt from The Dark in there. Oldest card I own is an Alpha Counterspell.
>Your deck's average?
It's all over the place
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>>54434445
The dragon spoilers were at least a month ago so we're getting pretty close if you look at it that way.
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>>54433547
>Blade of Selves
>existing before Commander 2016
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>>54434533
2015, fuck. I'm tired
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>>54433341
Yup for sure. Myr Battlesphere is a wincon in any blink deck. The real question is: are you running Brago? If you are, I know a million janky things you can do to win. If you don't, you're best going with some value town beater like Sun Titan or Scourge of Fleets or something.
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How does she fare as a Commander? Shitting out 2/2s for all eternity sounds fun in a bad way.
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>>54433187
If you want the decks then that's probably your best bet. If you want Kaalia and Freyalise as singles then just buy them. Keep in mind anthology is foil I believe.
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>>54434637
She's fun if you're a certain kind of Timmy. I use her as a general for one of my more casual decks and I think she's fun while being pretty simple and easy to play.

Play monoblack with a generally high curve and she does her thing. I like to go for big mana and use shades with her to spend mana on making them big before sacrificing them.
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>>54431319
Yes, but is scary as shit to the table.
I play Boros Tokens and I've never won a game with it. They always, always remove it. They all be like "holy shit is Assemble the Legion, someone remove nao".
I don't blame them, it spirals out of control really fast.
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>>54432433
Dinosaurs rotate in exactly as Eldrazi rotate out, so...?
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>>54434637
Well with a Coat of Arms on the field she goes from 1 or 2 2/2s to 10 20/20s. She's janky and not very fast. Put in black goodstuff and big mana, Phyrexian Altar, Thornbite Staff, and Undying creatures.
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So looks like
-Cats
-Dragons
-Vampires
-? Clerics?

what do you think the last tribe is?

http://imgur.com/a/gOoRw
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>>54431528
Do you mean Canadian?
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For some reason, I really want a deck to be built solely around

>Mikaeus the Unhallowed
and
>Liliana, Heretical Healer

Is there any way these two could work?
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>>54430814
Animar with lots of morph creatures
Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis pillowfort/token spam
Sliver Tribal, usually sliver overlord as commander but I've got all 4 legends
Braids, Conjurer Adept with lots of huge permanents and mind control/clone effects
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>>54435068
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>>54435047
Hoping that the vampire is Edgar Markov.
The final tribe might be Human Wizards? Esper with white black cleric support?
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>>54434533
>>54433601
'Her'was referring to Kalemne, if the listed cards weren't obvious enough
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>>54435047
Last is almost certainly WB Clerics. Not the tribes I'd have wanted but not too bad I guess.
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>>54435047
>>54435119
Yeah, let's just hope he gets a good card
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>>54435119
I'd be surprised if he wasn't. Here's hoping they didn't waste a cool character and fantastic art on another Ludevic.
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>>54435047
Assassins?
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>>54435047
Could the last tribe be Demons? B/W with cleric support?
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>>54435047
Most likely RB Vampires with a spash of Clerics since the other decks lack R.
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>>54435238
how the fuck do you get demons from a human? its clearly clerics or wizards
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>>54435289
Because of humans whorshiping demons?
Theres a human in the dragon deck.
And yes, its most likely clerics, I just asked if cleric with demons would be plausible
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>>54435354
then why wouldn't there be a demon in the artwork? cmon dude
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>>54435047
Im going to have to say clerics as we havent gotten a proper cleric commander
Mercenaries?
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>>54432448
Just go infect. You'd be surprised at how many opponents you can take out before they become a threat. You will probably still lose anyway.
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>>54435376
Again, because of humans whorshipping dragons.
Taigam is a human, is in the dragon deck.
Kalia is a human, focuses on angel/demon/dragon tribal
Have some imagination for fucks sake
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>>54435439
whorshipping demons* fuck
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>>54435439
the other 3 arts all feature exclusively the featured tribes, why would the 4th be any different? You know Wizards loves symmetry
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>>54435487
Don't give wizards that much credit
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How do you guys deal with powercreep in your play group?
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>>54435047
RIP Spirits, we hardly knew ye.
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>>54435487
well I'm pretty sure it'll be centered around humans too, don't get me wrong. I was just looking for what kind of human tribe it could be. Looking at the artwork, I thought of clerics, and by the way the other humans around the central figure seem to be whorshipping in a sort of cult, I was thinking about a demon theme, that's all.
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>>54435533
You don't
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>>54435047
Hoping for Rogues.
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>>54435533
Once your playgroup starts to become an arms race not much you can do besides rape your wallet. Or stop playing.

(Or get Chinese cards)
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>>54435047
Why Dragons and fuckin Vampires? I thought these were supposed to be for tribes that didn't have a lot of support.
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>>54435632
they literally never stated that
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>>54432448
Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior Omnath, Locus of Rage?

No deck has as resilient an aggro plan as he does. You could play Omnath, 50 lands, and 49 ramp spells and do just fine, but adding stuff like Phyrexian/Ashnod's Altar, Perilous Forays (With or without Amulet if Vigor) and Goblin Bombardment is when it really gets fun.
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>>54435646
My angry Omnbro.
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>>54435533
Get chinese cards.
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>>54435533
Get another playgroup.
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>>54434637
I run her in Shattergang, she's fun with Creakwood Liege
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>>54435795
thats probably not the worst use of her
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A commander that works like pic related?

I want to cast cantrips, draw cards and hit hard.

what would be the commander of choice?

I don't care about color identities, play style is more important to me.

I appreciate it.
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Best magic channel besides TCC?
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>>54435838
Literally Shu Yun
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>>54435841
Alpha MFN Investments
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>>54435838
Narset
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>>54435841
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>>54435852
>>54435901
Thanks a lot, checking it out.
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>>54435533

Call based chinaman.

Start netdecking from cedh and adding the most budget options to your deck.

For example, there's no card better for 1cmc than Mystic Remora, it's 1 fucking burgerdollar, and it's nowhere to be found in EDHRec
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>>54435841
Villa Zheng
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>>54436013
Can confirm I'll draw like 6 cards of the footprint head fish before its gone
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>>54436047

The footprint is actually like a weird suction cup thing, the remora is a fish that catches rides on other sea creatures by suction cupping to their bodies
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>>54434503
>How old is your commander?
Let say my Yasova deck out of my decks. About a year.
>The oldest card in your deck?
City of Shadows from The Dark. Excellent mana source and waste disposal.
>Your deck's average?
About 30% but I don't care because it's fun.

>>54434437
Repost link pls
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>>54435841
I tried watching some games from The Command Zone and I felt like I was looking in on a bizarro universe where nobody runs removal cards in EDH
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>>54436032
B-b-but muh secondary market
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Anyone here own the Ultimate Guard flip n tray?
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>>54435533
Play Chaos, MLD and no-wincon Stax until they learn that Multiplayer objective is to have fun and that's why we don't spike things up.
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>>54436194
>nobody runs removal
That's commander vs.
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>>54435841
Atog Lord, MTGOrzo, and MTGMuddstah for varying forms of EDH
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Cards that should be Legendary, but aren't.
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>>54436526
The nephillim
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>>54436526
there could be any number of people named Istvan who are somebody's uncle
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>>54436526
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>>54436526
How DARE you talk shit about Unlce Istvan.
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>>54436526

The best Dimir commander ever is literally a bulk rare and not even a commander
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>>54435646
does he require parallel lives? I don't want to buy a $10 enchantment just for him
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>>54436526
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>>54435047
What makes you think we are getting vampires? Only dragons and cats have been leaked.
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>>54436653
Look at that album.
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If I were to play this card how hard would I be focused for the rest of the game?
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>>54436526
Somebody will post this one eventually
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>>54436653
Did you look at the attached albums? It's all four tribes banners. Vampires are leaked, catch up.
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>>54436670
Rocks and dorks
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>>54436670
You would be focused for as long as it takes for someone to cast Disenchant.
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>>54436526
>>54436648
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>>54436653
lmao retard
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>>54431743
List for Marchesa?
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>>54435047
oh shit

compare >>54436648 to the last banner http://imgur.com/a/gOoRw
wizard tribal confirmed
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>>54436684
It's just banners tho, what makes the other two legitimate or definitively a commander product?
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>>54435047
Either humans or some sort of spellcaster. That shit looks magic-y as hell, so probably wizards, maybe clerics or monks.
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>>54436526
Mindleech mass. This guy is pretty cool too.
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>>54435047
Blue gets wrecked this year by only being in the 5-color deck.
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>>54436915
Blue has enough EDH toys.
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It's a real love/hate feeling every time I get to shut down the rest of the game
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>>54436944
That's a pretty hard lock.
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>>54436861
those two characters have almost nothing in common aside from being female
woman tribal confirmed I guess
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>>54431784
Nothing too spicy, I run Palace Sentinels in it since I like introducing The Monarch into games and Vitalize if I don't have anything to give Vigilance to dudes.
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>>54436944
I feel like WOTC didn't think of all the potential combos with Solemnity before they printed it.
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>>54436526
Is there a casual-er version of EDH where non-legendary commanders are allowed? I feel like there's a lot of potential here.
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>>54436944
>your opponents have to watch as you slowly clear the board then win in whatever way you want
Jesus, I think I need one of those.
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>>54436862
http://magic.wizards.com/en/products/commander-2017
That page. They're definitively commander products and you're definitively retarded.
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>>54436944
What's the commander/s for this combo? I want to build that as budget as possible.
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>>54430307
More cards like this and the op card? I'm kicking around some ideas for a karona eldrazi deck in my head and fucking with mana production seems nice.
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wew someone got upset
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>>54437075
If you want to be maximum turbocunt then you run GAAIV
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Didn't know where to post this but r8 this proxy
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>>54437075
Brago, since flicker synergizes with Decree of Silence. You can lock people down while digging for Solemnity.
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>>54437075
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>Playing Uncle Karlo
>Stuck at like 7 lands the whole game, rest of the board is at least 10+
>Have Black Market on the field with like 6 counters on it
>Vial-Smasher player drops a Blasphemous Act against the tokens player
>Now have 30+ counters on it
>My turn comes around and I throw down Celestial Force, followed by Disciple of Bolas
>Sack Celestial Force, draw 8
>Throw down Alhamarret's Archive, Sol Ring, Pristine Talisman, Orzhov Signet, and some other black shitter
>Cast Consuming Vapors on Sidisi player's Worldspire Wurm, go up 30 life
>Cast Felidar Sovereign and end turn

What're some recent plays other players have done that helped you out in the end?
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A nice way to fuck with good stuff decks?
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>>54436970
aw, the superlarge card image made me think the glowy eyes were the scar.

honestly though wizard is probably it. cats,dragons, vampires. wizards is playing it safe this year. so far we have the most popular tribes amoung casuls, and they will eat it up. vampire could be mardoo colours as well leaving mono blue perhaps.
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>>54435047
With the upcoming push of white vampires can we hope for mardu vampires or will it be rakdos vampires?
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>>54437444
I hope Mardu
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>>54436562
>Which Queen marchesa? It's a matrilineal line
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>>54437056
>having a shadow of a doubt makes me retarted
Its actually nice to have regular asshole's again instead of discord fags flaming up the place, so thanks faggot.
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>>54437534
No, not taking five seconds to check and needing to be spoonfed makes you retarded.
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>>54437127
Fine. I don't know why'd you proxy him seeing as until he's released, MTG has 0 dinosaurs.
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>>54436206
GET OUT OF MY FACE
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>>54432404
...I actually came here to say a friend of mine gave me his because I had quite a lot of fun with it and was looking for some card tips (I've just played EDH for the first time yesterday)
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>>54437607
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>>54437701
>color Gishark can't run
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>>54436510
Isn't MTGOrzo the Chinese guy? I thought he stopped making videos
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>>54437607
bucha old cards being retcon'd into being dinos, ones that obviously were for the most part
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>>54435047
I really hope that vampire dude is either Edgar Markov as >>54435119 said or Runo Stormkirk

The last one looks the most like it will be a job tribal instead of a creature tribal. Wizards, Assassins or Rogues.
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>>54435047
>yfw the third deck is Mardu Vampire and Knight tribal
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>>54435549
Amen senpai
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What are some paths this dude could take?
Any spicy tech?
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>>54437607
Changlings.
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>>54437915
you play 40 removal/counterspell tribal and never actually play your commander.
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>>54435047
What if it is spirits though.
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>>54437915
What happens if you get tagged with a high damage burn spell and have to sac away all your shit?
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>>54438359
Shouldn't have played Dralnu. Or respond to the spell with 1 damage to Dralnu and sacrifice himself.
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WHAT COMMANDER IS BEST FOR FIREBALL TRIBAL???
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>>54438387
The RG one that gives you mana for X spells.
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>>54438396
NICE! THEN I CAN PLAY HURRICANE AND FIREBALL EVERYONE

IVE BEEN COLLECTING FIREBALL SPELLS, WHAT IS SOME SPICY FIRE TECH
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>>54438387
Neheb is what peak glory looks like. Or Rosheen like >>54438396 says.
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>>54438422
Banefire is best fireball. Comet Storm is ok. You just want insane mana ramp and Past in Flames so you can recycle them later.

>>54438428
Just run Neheb in Rosheen.
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>>54437534
not that guy but you're a pretty retarded person sir
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>>54437788
Can't be Runo, Stromkirks are the crazies
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>>54436576
>The land continues to burn
Fucking metal
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>>54432448 here, just wrote up the tentative list for my first EDH deck. Thank you guys for the advice - are there any glaringly obvious mistakes I made?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/apolitical-havocraiser/
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>>54436648
God damn, those are some fat tiddies.
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>>54437011
Pauper EDH
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>>54438387
Fukken Mizzix, yo.
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>>54437915
As a commander he has many weaknesses.
He's amazing tech in Grixis colors since you can use him and Goblin Dark-Dwellers to pull out Wheel of Fate for free, among other options.
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>>54438608
if you want to raise absolute chaos play chaosphere purely for the sake of fucking with the board state
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Criticize my Neheb
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nehebs-big-breakarson-spree/
Might actually end up using bone mask to not kill myself with earthquake

>inb4 mass land destruction
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>>54435047
Either clerics or wizards, I'm fine with either.
What's going on with her earrings though, are they defying gravity or stapled to her ears or what?
>>
I wish we could get Ship tribal
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>>54438918
Rigger tribal.
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>>54435047
Anyone know when were supposed to get spoilers?
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Help /tg/ im droping my collection and I just want to keep 1 edh deck help me decide who surives the cull currently I have:-

Newzuri goodstuff
Derevi stax
Roon pillowfort
Mono green elves
Mono red daretti artifacts
Olivia Voldaren 1.0 vampire tribal
Mimeoplasm
Mayael stompy

Also almost complete (about 85%)
Queen Marchessa superfriends pillowfort
Meren reanimator

I ned some input on what to keep and what to flog on ebay
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>>54438951
This, Goblin/Dwarf Rigger tribal R/W aritfacts
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>>54436627
>bulk rare
>literally being played in legacy and vintage
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>>54435047
What if it turns out to be Shapeshifters?
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How do I build this bitch? Is she even worth playing?
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>>54430307
So how much removal is too much. I play obzedat and right now I have 6 point removals and 5 mass . Isn't that a bit much?
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>>54439504
You need more
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>>54431382
How did any of those guys ever play a game, yet alone get more members?
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R/W Goat tribe deck 2017
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>>54439522
Alright
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>>54439503
>7 drop 4/4
As much as I want her to be, no.
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>>54435646
>>54435732
Here's my omnath list bros, what about your lists?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/l-a-n-d-b-o-y-s/
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>>54439691
>Absolutely consistent card draw every turn with no downsides in one of the strongest color combinations in EDH

>But she's not a beater card sux ;_;
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>>54439748
She doesn't impact the board in any way when she comes down and makes for an extremely large target during the next ~3 turns with a relatively fragile body.
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>>54439504
>Spot Removal
Anguished Unmaking
Devour in Shadow
Hero's Downfall
Mortify
Murderous Cut
Path to Exile
Snuff Out
Swords to Plowshares
Utter End
Vindicate

>Board Wipes
Austere Command
Damnation
Fumigate
Merciless Eviction
Rout
Terminus
Toxic Deluge
Wrath of God

Just some personal favorites.
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>>54439792
I play
>spot removal
Anguished Unmaking
Renounce the Guilds
Return to Dust
Unmake
Utter End
Council's Judgment

>mass
Wrath of God
Merciless Eviction
Hour of Revelation
Day of Judgment
Austere Command

And last but not least Ugnin, the Spirit Dragon
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>>54439503
What deck would it even be? The rock in sultai?
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>>54439768
I've toned the deck the fuck down by adding in some gorgons and shit, but she still absolutely wrecks fucking face.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/g-o-r-g-o-n-b-o-y-s/
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secret tech in Sidisi
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>>54439891
Maybe? I'm not even sure. Something that would like ramping out and could constantly use a refilled hand. Maybe infect with lots of buffs?
>>54439917
That's one of Sidisi's breast cards.
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>>54439917
>play this ability only any time you could play an instant
wut
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>>54439949
>he doesn't know the diffence between activated abilities and mana abilities
Granted, no one will really Stifle it, but still
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>>54439949
It's a mana ability, so if they didn't put that in their you could activate it at wierd times, like while you were searching your library.

Then they fucked up and forgot to put that on other cards that do similar things, and now you can't reorder your library while you search it.

Sometimes wizards is dumb, but this actually wasn't one of those times.
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>>54439933
>Sidisi's breast

Sidisi is a snake. I don't know if she has breasts, anon.
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>>54439996
Sure she does. Here in her chest. >>54439917
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>>54430545
Fast lands are good if you need early color fixing in a competitive deck, if you're just playing casually then I'd skip them
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>>54431142
lol
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>>54430965
10 mana for what? 10 mana for what?
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>>54432978
>vorthos deck

Read The Brothers' War if you havent
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>>54439071

Don't sell Anon, you'll regret it down the road!
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>>54437187
Pretty good against tokens
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>>54431575
Not him but i played it in Ghave, Atraxa and Prossh and it's worth the symmetry since you can abuse it to it's fullest while other players might get only a slight advantage
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>>54435047
So the color of these arts basically reflect what color the commander will be, look at the Cat: it's green and white, Ur-Dragon is a lot of colors, Vampire dude is red, white and black so cleric dudes is going to be UB
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Anything special in your mailbox today, /tg/?

Today was a good day
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>>54440529
How's trostani? I have all the green and white token doublers sitting around and wanted to build a token deck
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>>54436526
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>>54438387
>>
Any ways to return exiled cards to your hand/deck/graveyard besides mirror of fate?
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>>54441257
Yo
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>>54441257
>>54441277
See also.
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>>54435047
4th one is going to be UB Rogues, screencap.
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NEW THREAD

>>54441395
>>54441395
>>54441395
>>54441395
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>>54439071
Keep whatever is most nonlinear. Otherwise you'll be bored. As someone who sold off his yugioh collection on the cheap, never sell off a collection unless you will be destitute or financially fucked. It's just not worth it.
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