Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Is the DualGravFlux Leviathan really worth it for 309 points ?

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>>54427386
hehe wrong pic

Requesting an example of a recast knight from Z.

>>54427424
And the FW Bloodthirster

Previous thread is a requirement of making a 40kg

kys

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>>54427424
>>54427452

BL Canon

>"Somewhere in the lashes of the Eye of Terror, Lelith Hesperax flicked open her eyes with a slow smile, the serrated perfection of her teeth glinting lightlessly...(upon killing an underling) This soul she would offer to the Satin Throne, its twisted and unrestrained hedonism would please the dark lord of pleasure and fulfill the continuing terms of their ancient compact." -

>>54427478
>moralfags

>>54427475
Lurk more faggot.
Half 40kg dont have the previous thread.
You're just assmad nobody can see your SJW Buzzfeed shitpost

>>54427478
>if the company dies from people not buying models it's way better than the company dying because people bought from recasters!

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>So they confirmed that moving forward, should a marine need to be put into a Dread, that they will be put "into the new better ones, because they are better". And "that doesn't mean there wont be old ones around, just not as many"

>Planting to seeds of what many fear to have been true, know your fate and embrace it, the inevitable is coming.

So my local FLGS is doing a PL tourney as kind of a gag, they literally want us to try and break the system as hard as we can.

So with that, what's the nastiest way Orkz can abuse Powerlevel?

>>54427580
Let's face it we all know what's coming

>>54427642
Boyz, Gorkanaut, Nobs with a stupid amount of upgrades, mostly shit that can take a silly amount of upgrades.

>>54427642
Nobz are literraly the best way to break PL

so snipers are basically worthless inn 8th.

they don't do enough damage to kill big characters, and the characters they can kill are cheap and spammable.

assuming your opponent hasn't just hid them behind los blocking terrain while enjoying their buffs.

>>54427580
If you dont think the next codex SM will be Codex : Primaris you are literraly retarded.
They will probably get 3-4 more tanks and at least 5 units within the next years

>>54427714
Killing Nobs with the WAAAGH! Banner is important and they're about 79 points each.

I am pretty new to the hobby but grey knights were always one of my first choices if I did start and now I have an opportunity to buy pic related, I just need help identifying the wargear on them and what kind of offer I should make.

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>>54427745
lel forgot picture

>>54427734
What are Primaris tanks gonna look like?

How do you make a tank THICCC?

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>>54427763

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>>54427741
But their Effectively a waste because their point/firepower efficiency could be spent on killing 'Da Boyz' instead of killing the Nob Behind them, then dying in combat anyway...

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>>54427734
You guys are adorable.

I want to carry you on my Mark X shoulders and buy you an ice cream.

>>54427533

>half of the OPs are fumbling retards so just deal with it

Yeah no sweetie

>>54427424

I don't have a pic but my knight porphyrion was nearly immaculate, I have zero complaints.

>>54427707
>>54427642
what this guy said, my buddy swore off of PL for good after I brought my 20 man blob all with Power Klaws and Scorchas

Reminder that female techpriests are gay and BL canon is shit. This has been a public service announcement, thanks and goodbye

Anyone Else tried cork-basing their models because it really works and can be both rubble/ rocks (also because you can compensate for the manlets size difference)

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8E and the playerbase remind me of a girl going back to an abusive ex-boyfriend because he did some bare minimum changes to improve his behavior. He's trying really hard! He's gone to two AA meetings and found a part-time job!

People were starting to branch out in historicals, Infinity, Dropzone, etc and now everyone I know has beelined right back to 40K.

>>54427714

Deathmarks with an Overlord putting My Will Be Done on them begs to disagree with you.

Also, at ATC this year, a Guilliman at full health was taken out by a couple squads of Ratlings.

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>>54427851
>dont even try to deny "XE" is a tumblerina working at Buzzfeed

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No females allowed here, it is a safe place.

>>54427763
there's already some shots of one tank, the repulsor? I think, it's a big mess with lots of guns and missiles all over.

I'm expecting one without the turret that has a transport option, maybe an assault gun variant like the vanquisher?

>>54427855
If you could take a picture some time I would seriously appreciate it.

Huh, so Chester Bennington killed himself.

Sad.

>>54427888
Sheeple gonna sheeple my man.

>>54427760

You've got draigo, brotherhood champion, brother captain, 4 psycannon power armor knights, 6 incinerator power armor knights, 2 psycannon terminators, 1(?) incinerator terminator, 6 storm bolter terminators and a lot of storm bolter grey knights

>price

well I like the metal models a lot and those metal psycannons look cooler than the plastic ones.

Also keep in mind those metal power armor dudes were $35 for 5 even in 2003, so if he's asking like $150-200 for this army its not unreasonable

>>54427899
Oh of course yeah, I think I tried to erase that from my memory

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>>54427896
go on

>>54427741
it takes a statistical average of 27 space marine snipers (not counting mortal wounds) to kill a single fucking nob. even if you get lucky and kill it with only 15 snipers, that's still 210 points you could have spent on something not shit.

snipers would still be useful if they allowed you to choose the models that die when you shoot a normal unit (special weapons etc.) but since you can't do that they only exist to sneeze at characters.

>>54427900

Well its primed now but I didn't have any problems with the fiddly details nor any excessive warpage.

>>54427896

Even DLFG and Miko?

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I can feel the space furries/faggot marines coursing through my veins like slaaneshi viagra right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1sjpL-WAY&list=PLrlDWoJ_NK4ZEwOCnArCGaJT9kRJb4s-a&index=3

>>54427888
>People were starting to branch out in historicals
No they weren't, the only people who were ever going to go from 40k to historicals were the people doing that anyway

>Infinity
Infinity is shit, I hope 8th kills it

>Dropzone
This game deserves more love and is cheap enough to get into, if my local scene played it at all I would totally play both

>>54427923
Sad. but were not in 2004 anymore.
(((They))) didnt want him to succeed anymore.

>>54427889
ill give that there might be some exceptions.

ratlings are cheap as fuck so spamming them doesn't cost much.

I'm talking about general purpose snipers.

So do you guys think CSM will get a Biggly Marines equivalent? Basically all of my models are HH and I'd rather not suddenly have giant spike men standing over them.

>>54427946

Your problem is that you're looking at scouts instead of good snipers like ratlings, command squads or vindicares.

>>54427992
TS and DG are already primaris sized.
As for the fluff, no since primaris are literraly immune to chaos

>>54428006
>since primaris are literraly immune to chaos

Literally never been established. And the fact that Cawl wants to mess with traitor geneseed leads me to think there'll at least be renegade primaris if not fully corrupted ones.

>>54427992

CSM don't need the 'Primaris' fluff excuse to get bigger models, they're all warp powered.

Can someone post the Vrosh Tattersoul stats

>>54428006
>As for the fluff, no since primaris are literraly immune to chaos

Since when?

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>>54427952
Yes, women are triggering to some people here and we can't have hurt feelings.

>>54427945
Praise be to Slaneesh.

>>54428006

None of them have fallen to chaos yet but its only been 100 years and they've been surrounded by inquisitors, grey knights and Guilliman himself in the Indomitus Crusade. Now that they're out on their own, they may find their spiritual protection weakened.

>>54428006
>As for the fluff, no since primaris are literraly immune to chaos
They've said this nowhere. All they've said is cheeky "hrawhraw will the new augments of the Primaris be enough to overcome Chaos corruption? We'll just have to wAiT aNd SeE!"

Meaning yes, they're going to start replacing chaos marinelets with new chad models eventually because GW likes money and you faggots will give them money for taller models because you have insecurities about your masculinity and need to have the TALLEST MANLIEST PLASTIC MANS

>>54427984
I'll meet you halfway there, yeah. Tau Sniper Drones are trash because they also lack the mortal wounds thing and Marine Sniper Scouts are mediocre in general.

I'll still champion Deathmarks for as long as they keep doing their job in my games. And believe me when I say that the look on an IG player's face when every commissary is systematically turned into confetti is always worth it!

>>54427946

But 27 scout snipers will get 3 mortal wounds per shooting phase, that's not trivial.

>>54427714
Use more Snipers, then.

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>>54427734
>Codex : Primaris
Nah, it will still be Codex Space Marines, they gotta keep using it since they own the trademark.

Manlet marines will be gone by next codex though.

>>54427931
Thanks for the breakdown, I think I'll make an offer

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I am tempted to begin an Ork army.
What are the first purchases for a good 'ol Dread Mob army type ?

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>>54427763

>>54428119
>muh headcannon is true guyz!

I'm sure you're the next hire at GW anon

>>54428119

Dark Imperium says that they're resistant but nobody in universe assumes they're immune.

Honestly it could go either way, they could make primaris CSM for vanilla Chaos or they could treat primaris like Stormcast and never have them fall to chaos.

Stormcast at least have a good fluff reason for the latter (literally soul bound to Sigmar), Primaris do not.

>>54428119
I've read it all, dear reddit shitposter, and listened to the livestreams. GW has in fact been very careful to go out of their way to never confirm that Primaris are immune to chaos corruption. I wonder why that is????????????????? But keep being a triggered chaoslet.

>>54428145
>I am tempted to begin an Ork army.
You're doing 40k wrong

>>54428167
>Stormcast at least have a good fluff reason for the latter (literally soul bound to Sigmar), Primaris do not.

Clearly the new organ is a rod so far up the ass they can't fall.

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>>54428171
Zog Off, yer juz jeluss.

>>54428154

Fuck it, I like it. Its a hover sicaran-razorback.

I hope the Heavy Lascannon isn't just STR10, I'd rather have AP-4 or 2D3 damage imho.

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>>54427896
Fuck your safe space.

>>54428171
>having taste THIS shit
No he's doing it exactly right.

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How's this look for a small blades of vengeance/dark angels army? Battalion detachment, 1000 points.

>Captain in gravis armour (sword & gauntlet) - 137

>Librarian (force sword) - 105

>5 scouts (4 sniper rifles, missile launcher, power sword) - 100

>5 scouts (4 sniper rifles, missile launcher, power sword) - 100

>10 intercessors - 200
(Or two 5s if their unit size doesn't go up in the codex.)

>3 ravenwing black knights (3 plasma talons, power sword, meltabombs) - 159

>Ravenwing land speeder vengeance (assault cannon) - 143

>Ravenwing dark talon - 188

>995 points and 59PL if anyone gives a fuck.

I guess the main question is, is a small unit of black knights worth it? Kind of wondering if they need to be a bigger unit to be worth taking at all.

>>54428154


Worthy of its Repulsive name.

>>54428183

I mean, for Stormcast it makes sense because they're so strongly bound to Sigmar that when they die their souls are flung through the realms to rejoin with Sigmar. Its not unreasonable to say that makes them extremely resistant to corruption.


Primaris have 3 new implants that give them steel muscles, bigger size and a last stand adrenaline rush. Not nearly the same thing. It would feel kind of stupid.

>>54428215
>Truth is damage control

>>54428207
Vengeance a shit, replace it with a Darkshroud. That'll keep your Knights alive because those are high profile targets thanks to 7e.

>>54427923
https://youtu.be/td3DvdrlCm0

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Rate these Nids.

>>54428253
meh/10

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>>54428195
I want the next Fate series installment to have Guilliman as the Seibah clone.

>>54428195
>feminine face
Anon please this is a blue board. And I'm out of sfw traps.

>>54427923
>CRAAAWWWWLIIIIINNGGG IIIIIINNNN MAAAAHHH SKIIIIIIIIIIIIN
Good riddance

>>54428239
>Vengeance a shit
Huh. Okay then, will rearrange stuff.

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What's your favorite dreadnought fellas?

>>54428309
And take a Ravenwing Apothecary for extra measure. Also good for reviving anyone who needs it on the go.

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Gimme suggestions for fluffy Bad Moonz armies, /tg/

>>54428253
visually loud and uninteresting, like all 40k players

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>>54428275
At this point it'll just be an expansion for FGO.
I'd he okay with this.

>>54428253
I hate the colour scheme, but I like that Rob picked Nids for his entry into 40k and properly understood they are the horror faction. He's a good man.

>>54428154
I'm wondering how much those grav chassis bits will go for after release - I would think everyone will want them to add to their existing vehicles

>>54428353
Dorrito dread all the way

>>54427794
Yeah 15 scouts kill a nob over 2 turns, 30 boyz still left on the field charge and kill them all. 15 Wolfguard with stormbolters and chainswords instead just kill all the boys in one turn with 100 s4 attacks.

>>54428353
probably the Leviathan, I do have a soft spot for the FW chaplain dread though

>>54428353
I thought the Leviathan looked like a Contemptor with a life-vest but I'm starting to like it.

>>54428382
Shame he didn't paint them himself, regardless of how bad they may have looked.

>>54427923
Who the fuck is chester bennington?

>>54428394
>everyone I don't like is le sjw

maybe next year you'll learn a new one kid

>>54428425
Lead singer of nickelback

>>54428425
Lead Singer of Linkin Park

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>>54428394
>liking women is bad
I knew someone would get triggered by feminity, but you bastards didn't believe me.

>>54428353
OG boxnought

plastic venerable is as good, but only if he's wearing a proper sarcophagus

>>54428425
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=chester+bennington

>>54428353
Can't go wrong with a plain boxnought.

Building my first list and atm I have 2 Devastator squads w/ 2 ML & 2 LC's.

How prevalent are toughness 8 models?

And would just all Missile Launchers be a better choice?

>>54428425
The guy from Linking Parks

>>54428435
>pedo! pedo! pedo!
>on the site that invented Pedobear

It must be nice being new

>>54428403
True, but I imagine his job keeps him too busy to paint a big horde army like nids in time for the events they want him to participate in.

>>54428466
Your average heavy tank is T8

>>54428220
Each Stormcast literally has a small shard of Sigmar in him. Their souls are now made of Azyr which is like anti-Chaos energy.

>>54427502
>unmoralfags

I wonder how the iron hands chapter tactic will mesh with the venerable dreads unyielding ancient rule.

I'm assuming they will simply get 2fnp rolls.

>>54428495
>amoralfags

>>54428466
Tough 8 is basically only seen on the biggest tanks and monsters. Like Knights, Land Raiders, Tervigons and such.

The extra AP lascannons have over Krak Missiles is a big deal though.

>>54427787
i want that model, where can i buy it ?

>>54428503
One of the deadliest units available to the Iron Hands is the Venerable Dreadnought, who can combine The Flesh Is Weak with Unyielding Ancient to wade through even the heaviest of fire.
taken from the community site

>54428495
>eumoralfags

>>54428145
One or two Dreads obviously...a few bits for your mek leader. Lotta plasticard and a lotta bits. As it is a ramshackle mek mob you should tastefully scratchbuild a few if you can. Browse ebay and bits suppliers for kan/dread parts.

Its not gonna be a cheap list like other ones as you can make 2 squads of aspect boyz from the $30 box.

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>>54428353
Or the Killa Kan, if that counts.

>>54428466
Don't expect to see more than one t8 vehicle per game unless you're facing guard with tanks. Even still plasma cannons with rr1 and lascannons are better. Also the cherub is worth the points.

>>54428549
You mean deff dread right?

>>54428503
Their chapter focus article already clarified it does. Having a FnP rule and taking that one warlord trait on top of it works the same way.

>>54427580
My only real concern is when primarines eventually do replace the old models that they go back down to one wound and Space Marines as powerful warriors of humanity becomes a tabletop meme again.

>>54428402
I can't decide if I wanna get a Leviathan to convert for my Iron Warriors or if I want to get the IW contemptor dreadnought

>>54428549
Dats a dread your focking grot!

>>54428508
>fags, all of us

>>54428503
Yes. Multiple FnP abilities stack in this edition except when they explicitly say they don't. Since we've already seen both the abilities we know they stack.

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>>54428441
Women are devious and immodest creatures, they live their fickle lives only to tempt godfearing and righteous men into sin.
This man was seduced by the obscene wiles of a woman into burn down Paris.

>>54428377
what game is this from?

>>54428357
Toys before boys - upgrade everything, especially guns.
Flash gits.
Meganobs - being regular nobz is for poorfags
Trukks and battlewagons modeled to look like fancy cars

>>54428564
>>54428576
Anons, I meant Deaf Dred OR the Killa Kan, if the Kans count as a dreadnought.

>>54428571
They'll just be slowly falling behind the powercreep untill whatever comes after them is gonna replace them.

>>54428503
Two Apothecaries dont give you 2 FNP rolls but if you have two buffs that have different names but the same effect then they stack. So Venerable and Chaplain IH Dreads do have two chances to ignore wounds and this is confirmed in the article.

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>>54427881
You're just mad about this strong womyn tech priest

>>54428618
>Toys before Boyz
>Flash Gitz
>Mega Nobz
>Trukks
>Battlewagon

This is the opposite of the most common Ork advice.

>>54428618
>Trukks and battlewagons modeled to look like fancy cars

Examples?

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>>54428446
>when the wounds did heal so had to make new ones

>>54428611
Some shitty gacha mobage.

>>54428561
Good look on the Plasma Cannons; 4 points cheaper and seem way better. With re-roll 1's; thats a 1/36 chance for a mortal wound.

>>54428484
>no black carapace

Since it's put under the skin, then it wouldn't go under breasts, right? And the carapace, although a flexible film when implanted, hardens, forming a solid layer under the Marine's skin. So would female Marines, if they existed, have their tits encased inside hard plastic cups under their skin?

>>54428656
And they are accurate for Bad Moons.

The hunter vs the stalker vs non airborne forces.

Are 6 shots str 7 ap1 minus 1 at 4up more valuable then 1 rerolling at 3 lascannon shot

Calling nid players
Anyone know anything about lictors? I'm looking at resin or metal morals and I don't know what to get. I need three of them.

>>54428656
>bad moons are all about the flash
shit dude who would have thought

So lads let us stake our speculative bets on what 'secret' has been kept from Robot in regards to the development process of the Primaris marines.

>Black library information

>something taken from the big E without permission

Lets get ridiculous.

has anyone confirmed that models lose access to stratagems warlord traits and chapter tactics if the entire army isn't a single chapter?

so a space marine army gets punished for taking a knight?

>>54428666
The space wolf variant devs even give themselves rr1.

>>54428674
No, breasts are fat deposits and they would either be reduced due to exercise/hormones or not have any carpace as there's nothing to connect it to. Space Marines dont have plugs in their pecs.

>>54428674
They'd be removed entirely for convenience. If all you're gonna do is fight there is zero point leaving them there if they get in the way of things.

>Yes this would mean that logic dictates female marines would look almost exactly like male marines.

>>54428712
I'm not sure what you're asking, anon.

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>>54428154
From another angle

>>54428736
Should I go resin or metal models

>>54428719
Yes, its in the article. All armies will probably have to sacrifice their special stuff if you wish to include something thats not part of the army in question, its why GW made the Auxiliary detachment, so you could add whatever without sacrifcing access to special rules. You do give up one CP though.

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>>54427370
>post your dreads
Not mine, but that seismic hammer....

>>54428657
Can't find any pics, but I did once see a club with "the yellow rolla", a trukk that looked like a rolls royce or other long-bonnet car

Models of actual Rolls-Royce armoured car from WWI might make a good base

Something with a hummer limo in its genealogy might fit for a battlewaggon

>>54428719
Yes. they said so in the live and its how it works in AoS.

>>54428719
It's not confirmed yet but that's what the devs said during the preview livestreams. Your available Stratagems are based around your shared army Faction. If you're Faction Imperium you only get the base Stratagems in the core rules, if you're Adeptus Astartes but with multiple Chapters, you get Adeptus Astartes Stratagems but not the Chapter-specific ones, if you're Ultramarines you get all the Adeptus Astartes Stratagems AND the Ultramarines Stratagem and so on.

>>54428735
>They'd be removed entirely for convenience. If all you're gonna do is fight there is zero point leaving them there if they get in the way of things.

So marines are dickless?

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Why does everyone hate this dread?

>>54428154
That thing looks huge, and it's basically their Predator/Rhino. If they get a Land Raider equivalent it's going to be massive.

>>54428742
metal.

Hey speaking of dreadnoughts, anyone have a backup or a link to the reeeeally old tutorial games workshop did on painting venerable dreadnoughts? Last time I saw it was likely 2010 ish on the old site and I recall in detail one page was how to paint the plasma cannon glow, but it seems to have vanished off the internet or something. Can anyone help out?

>>54428735
>>54428770
Marines aren't dickless. They need to piss and shit. Horus Heresy Book 7 says that they're indoctrinated to not want sex and even if they did fuck they'd never get anybody pregnant. The whole Slaanesh CSM is because they WANT to fuck and Slaanesh offers it to them.

I wish faggots who don't read didn't comment on shit.

>>54428747
That's not how the Auxiliary Detachment works. You would still lose out on Faction Stratagems for taking something out of Faction in that.

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I will post this WITHOUT demanding pizza like a jackass.
Food tips are appreciated though

>>54428760
Gotta love that Nanoha reference.

>>54428747
except the aux detachment doesn't have a low slot.

so fuck anyone who wants a knight i guess.

>>54428770
Maybe, though the nice thing about a dick is that you can put it into something for an easy way to drain urine without too much spillage or leaking.

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Who do you want as the next army, personally i want malal

>>54428742
Metal is better. If you have good taste, you'll pick up the 2nd edition metal lictors off ebay.

>>54428773
I think the skull is goofy and I don't like the fact that it's just covered in hazard stripes and lumps, just comes across as uninspired and lazy.
Maybe it looks nicer painted?

>last time playing orks was in 5th with the 4th ed codex
>pick up index xenos 2
I'm scared, where's Wazdakka? Why are the unit upgrade characters their own individuals now? Zogwort? Where's me ardboyz? Why can't I make cyborks?
I don't like it.

>>54428798
Pineapple on pizza tastes nice.

>>54428807
Good thing there's the SuperHeavy Auxiliary detachment.

>>54428769
god that's fucking stupid. that was the whole point of the fucking keyword system, to prevent shitty rules interactions. if you're just gonna hard rule it out anyway, why go through all that trouble?

>>54428798
why are you posting this like its new ? its from the dark vengeance repackage for 8th and known for months

>>54428807
No ? anyome who wants a knight can still get a freaking knight.
An archerus or porphyrion is worth every stratagems for me

>>54428769
I wonder if inquisitors will have some way of getting around that, or their own set of stratagems to represent them working alongside other armies.

>>54428817
Space Fishmen or failing that Rak'Gol
>>54428839
yes

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>>54428817
Dark Mechanicum with the triumphant return of pic related.

>>54428817
Whatever happened to malal anyway?
Isn't it something like gw don't have his copyright anymore or some shit

>>54428850
Because as evidenced by the ransom last night, nobody fucking knows it exists. Plus he's actually kind of good.

>>54428817
Space dwarves done right.

>>54428807
The best thing for your elysian is a Stormlord full of 18 Heavy weapon team with heavy bolter anyway, not a knight

>>54428838
Nobz can get cybork bodies.

Zogwart and Wazdakka wasn't even in 7th.

'Ardboyz are out.

Some unit upgrade characters are like that to make things more flexible since buff auras are the thing right now.

>>54428830
I think it looks fitting for Iron Warriors just because of the rivets and sheets of metal

>>54428875
He's back, or still around, but has been renamed to Malice. Probably because of the whole copyright issue.

>>54428875
It was a fanfic and nothing was written on him since 1992.

>>54428846
No the point of keywords is to enable the system I just explained. If they didn't have them you wouldn't know what units were allowed to unlock what stratagems.

It's the balance for superfactions compared to fluffy subfactions. It's a good system. Imperium shouldn't be automatically more flexible than everyone else just because they're allies. You choose between having a wide roster or a deep one.

>>54428846
>that was the whole point of the fucking keyword system,
actually the point is you can apply bonuses at multiple levels of restriction.
Some you get just for having them, even if not everything in the detachment has the keyword.
Some you get if everything in the detachment has it.
Some you get if everything in the army has it.

So as you get more restricted, you get more bonuses.

>>54427480
Source on this?
Theories?

>>54428911
[Citation Needed]

Malal fag are truly the worst

>>54428870
>Keyword: Suck my dick, I'm an Inquisitor! Suck my diiiick!
>

>>54428873
Scoria is the only character in the game to port HIMSELF into 8e. He did Mortal Wounds before Mortal Wounds existed, bar ignoring invulns. Now I suspect he'd do some kind of bullshit like D3+1 Mortals per hit and hit on 2+ because Archmagos.

>>54428870
Probably, given that in Imperial Agents they had a special rule that let them have Warlord Traits even if they weren't your Warlord. That seems fitting as their special Faction thing, to add Imperium Stratagems.

>>54428595
Froyo

>>54428916
>>54428940
Read 'The Labyrinth' short story found in the Heroes of the Space Marines book.

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>>54428721
Black carapace is not plugs, it's a dark film inserted under the Marines skin on his torso. Nothing says it's only inserted under locations of importance, it's inserted over the entire torso. That's why it's the last, because you need to be fully grown before it's inserted, otherwise it'll cause complications (and why "marines grow all their lives" is a silly notion).

Also, pic related.

This did get me thinking... How do you implant old marines with primaris gene-seeds? If the carapace restricts growth... Do they remove it, insert the new organs, let the marine grow and then put a new carapace on?

If putting gene-seeds into an adult is not as effective as into a kid, because they enhance the body's natural growth during puberty, and primaris gene-seeds enhance regular gene-seeds, how well do old marines turn into primaris? Are they like shittier in physical abilities, but make up for in in experience?

>>54428850
>iron hands can't use iron hands rules cause they hang out with a knight, or admech.

I mean yeah, but that's shit.

admech still gets canticles even if they army mix.

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>>54428773
Iron Circle did it better.

So it's just me or 8th is REALLY killy?

9/10 games one player (mostly my opponent) concedes t2 because he would be 100% tabled t3, and I don't even play particularly waakfag lists.

>>54428931
so the guy running his super fluffy Smurf list gets all the bonuses, but the guy running the just as fluffy iron hands + admech list can go fuck himself.

>>54427424
Go to /r/yoyhammer.

So any news on that little rumour mill cocktease with that skull and bones alcove type thing?

>>54427478
I have a list of contacts of all the current readers. Negotiating with GW for free shit in exchange for their information.

>>54429020
>itsAdMechTechnologyIAintGottaExplainShit.jpg

>>54429142
>but the guy running the just as fluffy iron hands + admech list can go fuck himself.
because the Iron hands is not the admech.
The iron hands works more with the admech than others, but it's not the same.
And the list with an Iron hands detachment, and a Admech detachment gets the detachment level bonuses for both, but not the army level bonuses. Because they have more options than the more restricted list.

>>54428712
The old 2e sculpt are the best ones and you can get them for dirt cheap on ebay

>>54429140
It is pretty deadly. Last game I lost six Custodes turn one.

>>54429184
so we've basically traded boring mono build formations for boring mono build chapters.

>>54428076
Tau drones are fine; what they lack in MW they make up for in Rapid Fire 1 48". To get the most bang for your buck though, you should be using more than three sniper drones, all cashing in on the same Firesight Marksman and DC.

>>54427370

You know what might have been kinda cool is if the primaris had instead had a Grav dread: Yes, it would still have been silly, but it wouldn't he rehashing the leviathan only worse.

>>54429184
what detachment level bonus?

>>54428655
Source?

>>54429122
>perfectly captures Iron warriors look
>only usable in 30k
>Meanwhile they give us sheriff stars on IW torsos that don't fit at all

BEHEAD THOSE WHO SCULPT AT FORGE WORLD REEEEEE

Finished Ynnari and Harlies last night. Troupe are very efficient once they enter combat, but they need to make it there first. Yncarne is good for punching vehicles.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

Not sure who to do next, the list of index factions I haven't covered is shrinking. In order of decreasing estimated completion time:
Space Marines
Tyranids
Ultramarines
DEldar
Scions
Cadians/Catachans
Deathwatch
Black Templar
Assorted SM extras

>>54429287
I suspect GW will make all 30k shit usable in 40k. It's too fucking good £££ wise to avoid.

>>54429303
>Not sure who to do next, the list of index factions I haven't covered is shrinking.

Well dreads look like they are popular and will be even more popular soon with the SM codex..

>>54427478
Intellectual property is irrational. You cannot own an idea.

I support the companies I do because I want to. I don't buy from recasters cus I'm not a poorfag, but there is nothing wrong with it.

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>>54429306
BUT SERIOUSLY WHY THE FUCK DO THESE TORSOS LOOK SO ASS

>>54429344
Don't think they're that bad. Not like you can't convert Iron Warriors since they literally scavenge and shit.

>>54429344
looks cool to me

>>54427899
There are rumors it'll be like the Rhino. IE: one just the hull, one with turret, one with turret and sponsons but no capacity.

>>54429344
back to your containment thread.

>>54429306
they already have

>>54429361
I just hate that the Forge World books themselves go into fucking detail about how the IW don't have ornate armor or patterns and focus more on what's functional and shit, then we have an ornate star pattern and pretty tassels on their official torsos

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>>54429344
ONE STAR PIGS IN ASTARTES ARMOR!.

>>54429217
everything from your faction is not monobuild.

>>54429277
canticles.
And are chapter tactics, warlord traits and relics also confirmed to be army level, or was that just stratagems?

>>54429020
If the carapace is organic it should grow with them, you would think.

>>54428934

No theory
Just CS Goto quality

>>54427421
For 309 points your going to one hit kill a Russ on average. The question you should be asking is "How many can I take?"

>>54428154
How long till someone makes a tread kit for it?

>>54429383
I meant all of the 30k stuff.

>>54429409
I guess you cant take more than 3.. because of shitty relic rule

>>54429386
makes sense to me.
These are parade outfits likely and very rare ones at that since
>mk4 IW
>MK4 in high numbers and non dropsite legions
WEW
E E
WEW

Two 8th ed questions:
- Can you consolidate into combat now? Consolidate rule just seems to be that you have to end up closer to the nearest enemy. If so, can the guys they consolidate into then be nominated to fight that phase?
- Can combi-plasma be fired in supercharged mode? The weapon profile just has boltgun and standard plasma gun profile, but I imagine that's probably an oversight.

>>54429437

You can take more than 3.
Multiple spearhead detachments.

>>54429458
yes and yes

>>54429303
Yuck, look at those pathetic Kiss and Neuro Disrupter numbers.

>>54429409
what gun?
Storm Cannon?
24" so hitting it first turn will require moving. So 3+ to hit.
Have 20 shots go to 21 for math, 14 hits. round up 5 wound. roundup 4 unsaved. 8 wounds.
not one rounding.

Other things are shorter range, so not hitting until 2 turns of moving.

I suppose you could drop pod, but the guard will place their infantry so that there isn't a place >9" away from all and <18" from the tank.

>>54428253
Pretty cool.

>>54429533
calm down son, he was just asking questions, if that is enough to trigger you than you should try going to pre school again

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>Yo, I won 139 games as ultramarines

What's the best way for Death Guards to shred Ork infantry?

>>54429395
So why is the Black Carapace the last implant, given to the recruit once they've fully grown?

>>54428738
Would buy several.

>>54429489
Thanks.

>>54429533
:^)

>>54429567
This entire event is stupid.

Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything.

>>54429576
because replacing flaying and replacing the skin is a massive undertaken, and they need to be tough enough to survive it.

just a guess.

>>54429567
Yes, this is how these campaigns have always worked, so you shouldn't take it too seriously.

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>>54429567
A-are Xenos allowed to play too....

>>54428817
Anything, as long as it's after Sisters of Battle get plastics.

But if I had to choose, probably the Hurd.

>>54428798
Do you have other named crimson slaughter character you could put up?
Thank you

>>54427580

>New better dread

The Redemptor literally kills its pilot because they cut costs by skimping on life support tho

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Do EC have dreadnoughts?

>>54429603
yes, your victories subtract from either side, you get to choose.

>>54429409
They're just busted bs2+, T8, sv2+ and 4++ with the best weapons in the game. Storm Cannon isn't even an anti-vehicle weapon but does 50% more damage than a twin Lascannon for the same points.

>>54429614
maybe he did and just wanted to be absolutly sure that he got it right, ever though about that ?

>>54429603
As long as it hinders the imperium!

>>54429460
yes but the relic rule limits you. 3 is already 900+ points out of 2k, amd thats wothout the Relic tax

>>54429614
the consolidate thing is actually a implication of the rules, not directly in the rules, and worth checking. He's confirming that his reading of the implication is correct.
The other thing is a mistake in the rulebook.

>>54429458
Combi-plasma says "See Plasma gun". So yes.

>>54429656

>mortar HWS
>1 HS chocie
>27 points

>>54429666
maybe you could calm down and be a usefull member of society

>>54429682
>mixing army and loosing the Infiltrate for RavenGuardDread

>>54428873
Omnissiah I hope he still eats primarchs like a hoover to pop corn. Always fun to see people try a charge a primarch into him without knowing better.

>>54428941
I wish

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>>54429603
Their points are uploaded too.

>>54429603
Yes, every time you win you can take a point away from Chaos, to teach them a lesson for being humongous faggot shitposters.

Or you could be a huge cuck and take points away from the Imperium, making a Chaos victory more likely, and then we literally never will be able to hear the end of LOL NPC RACE, CHAOS IS BESTEST EVER!!1! from manchildren like Carnac.

>>54427896
I can only get off to flat futa.

>>54429773
so regular guys ?

>>54429650
I can't wait to see how asshurt you are the day they actually get updated into new plastics.

I don't play sisters, and I never particularly cared about sisters, but they're starting to grow on me just due to the fact that they can make you so absolutely fucking buttmangled you sperg out about them every single day without fail.

>>54429390
which article is this? I'm trying to read to see if they did but I can't find anything.

>>54429318
I suppose I really ought to do vanilla SM at some point. I'm a little wary of sinking a lot of time into it (wargear options greatly increase the time to finish these), only to have the codex come out and require major rewrites. Then again, stats may not change much.

>>54429499
Yeup. Neuro Disruptor is a fairly sizable damage increase over shuriken pistol (at least versus non-vehicles), but the 10 points per model with it is a HUGE jump, making it overall an efficient option, compared to just taking more players with shuriken pistols.

>>54429454
I just don't see how I can use em to make some Chaos iron warriors

>>54427424
It's Injection Moulded and google is your friend

https://spikeybits.com/2015/12/the-40-fake-recast-knight-titan-review.html

>>54429614
You sound pretty fucking autistic, desu.

>>54429799
Futa are girls that can have dicks. I always prefered ass to boobs so not having them makes sense. I don't think its uncommon enough for you to assume I might as well be into guys because I don't.

>>54429390
So far only stratagems have been specifically mentioned as being army-level, but I wouldn't rule out Warlord traits or Relics.

Can't rule out Chapter Tactics either but I think those will be Detachment based.

>>54429800
>replying to the resident shitposter
Wew.

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How do you folks prefer your battle boxes

Closed sarcophagus or exposed head

>>54429303
Add embrace+fusion pistol on players for me in points per wound.

>>54429832
Night lords march arround wiith their stupid suits anon.
Go for a Slanneshi faction, give them plumage make them vain and let the slaves do the diggering.
image is everything my dude

>>54429841
>male genitals
>male secondary sexual characteristics

I'm sorry anon but that's just a dude. Counts as a trap so whether it's gay is up for debate, but that's a dude.

>>54429841
Holy shit dude I hope this is bait.

I mean I fuck pretty effeminate trap bois but I don't pretend I'm straight.

>>54428145
buy a stompa and voila, you got yourself a 1000 pt army

>>54429859
both are cool, dreads are great by nature.

>>54429859
Exposed head looks dumb on any variant, worst thing about the fw dreads.

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>>54429638
>>54429648
>>54429743
>>54429744
>Can't win, just make others lose

>>54429859
MkV (closed) though don't mind MkIV (open) either.

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>>54429859

You can build the venerable with an exposed head and torso: It looks pretty neat done right, like the sarcophagus plate came loose during the battle or something.

Anyhow, speaking of exposed sarcophagi...

Exposed helmet dreads are dumb.

Why would you expose your head like that?

Full sarcophagus dreads make more sense from a design and functionality standpoint.

I think designers keep creating helmet dreads because they want the appearance of a big robot rather than a mutilated space marine hooked up to life support.

>>54429903
>gettalodofthisgit
You've got a fight, you fight.
Who cares who wins the war?

>>54429859
The sarcophagus has always looked better. The head only looks good on Chaplain dreads because skullmasks are part of their whole identity

Also for the record, all Forge World variant dreads like the contemptor and deredeo and all that shit, look like hot fucking garbage. Goddamn potato walkers.

>>54429860
Ooh, good call. I originally did Kiss with FP due to the 1d3 damage for vehicle-killing, but the improved AP and lesser cost on the Embrace actually makes it a more efficient solution. Will add to the Troupe Master and buffed Player sections.

>>54429924

lewd

>>54429903
>Needin' ta win

>Not jus' enjoyin da skrap an foitin both soides

You'z a git

>>54429903
What's worse is that I consider the Imperium and Chaos to be the most sides. If I could somehow go in and give all my victories to Tau or Nids, I would, I don't care.

>>54429933

If you don't put the front plate on a venerable dread it literally becomes a marine with no arms or legs wired into a war machine.

>>54429859

both: sarcophagus lid sticking out of the helmet hole like a graham cracker shoved into a jar of mayo

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>>54428738
Best angle.

>>54429961
>DIS BOT GETS IT.
>>54429903
>QUIT MUCKIN' ABOUT

I can just imagine a dread pilot like "can someone take this fucking helmet off me?!"

>>54429957
A-anon-kun, d-don't look inside my sarcophagus you hentai!!

>>54429924
Om nom nom nom nom

GET IN MA BELLY!

>>54429716
So true. Even TELLING them how much he kicks ass just makes them want to go "But I have the bigger snowflake!" and charge into the horrible scorpion-man spitting death from half a dozen guns while swinging a mace around that tosses around packs of Terminators like Sauron from LoTR, all while smiling like he's sitting down to dinner with an old friend. In fact, what little lore he has basically makes him Admech Sauron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkIoFgFhTlo is pretty much what he does to Astartes squads.

Will there be enough envy among SM to cause a second fall due to their "betters" replacing them?

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>>54429903
>Baal's darkest hour could have been 8th's first campaign, having been hyped for more than ten years.
>GW makes it a footnote with Chaos and Imperium defeating the Tyranids before moving on to their Chaos v. Imperium campaign, Konor.

>>54430052
nobody care about BA

>>54430052
The whole Nid thing was shit anyway. Original the 'big bad' was Ka'dandtha invading Baal's outer planets and preparing a huge invasion of Baal. At the end of the day, they had to wrap up the Nid shit and linked Ka'bandtha or whatever his name is coming back.

>>54430052
sorry kiddo, only chapters with LIVING primarchs get nice things.

>>54430050

I'd more expect there to be a major wave of primaris falling at some stage soon.

>>54430052
I agree with
>>54430064
>>54430072
there is a reason why BA got a WD codex before a proper one

>>54430064
>>54430072
N-no BULLY!>>54430105
>there is a reason why BA got a WD codex before a proper one

>>54430045
I saw a game where he ate angron, like in one game turn or something nuts.
Then the red butchers
The rematch? No less that 8 Str D thrown at him turn 1.
The salt between those two got epic.

>>54430052
They needed to sweep aside the old dangling plot threads under a rug so they can start fresh with the new writers who don't want to be beholden to the shitty lore started in 5th.

Cruddace isn't writing Tyranids anymore and Phil Kelly took them back. They'll get their day in the sun with a brand new fleet that doesn't constantly job like Leviathan did, once the narrative moves on from reintroducing all the Primarchs and they decide its time for a break from constant power armour wank.

>>54430050
All the marinelets that didn't get the primaris treatment will turn to chaos

>>54429950
8.5 MV, that's so sick, could be the best in the game.

>>54430139
There's a new one mentioned I'm the book that's currently going around and eating other hive fleets and the imperium is shitting house bricks at it.

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To my fellow niggers: Best weapon loadout for Dorrito Dreaddy?

>>54429933
>Why would you expose your head like that?

Isn't the helmet just decoration? The actual body being a withered husk floating in the sarcophagus behind it?

>>54429619
Has anyone tried to convert that into a Slaaneshi dreadnought?

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So after a year of playing Age of Sigmar, I'd like to get into 40k just in time for this campaign. There are a number of armies that appeal to me, leaving me with a rather hefty choice between Admech, Tzeentch (TS and daemons), or deldar. Would anyone be able to give me a rundown on unique army mechanics or fun stuff that might sway me to one side here? I'm not overly concerned about FW models, as I'm not an artist.

(I also love this image)

>>54430174
It's Hydra.

Technically it's not new, Hydra is an old fan-famous nid hobbyist who's pretty good friends with Phil Kelly. He and Moloch both got shout-outs in the 5th edition main rulebook. Molochs models have been featured in Codexes and the Mawloc unit was named after him. Now Hydra's finally getting some love after all this time. It's nice to see.

>>54430121
>8 S:D

That's an entirely reasonable response to him showing up, I would be flattered.
Eating Angron in one turn only requires moderately good rolls, actually. He has 5A with his mace plus 2 Power Axe Shred attacks, and statistically each mace hit will strip one of Angron's 5 wounds. I'm not at all surprised he pulled that off when the only thing that can take him down is the Custodes Tribune, and even then the battle will last far longer than the game.

>>54430198
bring me the priest.

>>54430198
Ranch and spicy nacho

>>54430213
Thousand Sons have some of the best looking marines, and tzaangors and the new Lord of Change look awesome.

The other nice thing with Tsons is you get strong shooty that has a psychic presence.

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>tfw no idea what units to use to kill Ork hordes as Death Guard/Nurgle player

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>>54430198
I've got one coming in the mail and the responses I got when I asked the same question before ordering it was the standard autocannon array, aiolos missile launcher and twin heavy bolters

The autocannons provide the most reliable damage outpost, missile launcher is a no brainer take it or leave it, and while some people recommend the twin heavy flamers for overwatch thats up to you. If the flamers fail to kill a sizeable amount of whatever is charging it its going to be tied up in close combat for a long time and this is not a platform you want fighting in cc

What are your guys' opinions on recasts? Are they harmless fun or the ultimate evil?

>>54430276
Renegade Knights with Gatling cannons

>>54430218
That's pretty good.
Wish more stuff like this was a thing.

>>54430291
A-anything else?

>>54430281

It gets 8+6+2d3 overwatch shots, you'll probably be fine without flamers anyhow unless you got outplayed to the point a backfield unit that should be well guarded gets charged by something serious.

>>54430294
GW getting their soul back. seems to be a pattern in 8th. Like the Nurgle conversion guy who got hired to make the Death Guard.

SM: July 29th
CSM+GK: August 19th
DG: September 23rd
T'AU+AM: October 7th
TYRANID+BA: November 11th
NECRONS+TS: December 9th

>>54429898
preach it brother

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>>54430254
I also love the horror splitting for objectives. I would consider starting with the changeling, a full unit of horrors (10 pink, 20 blue, 20 brimstone pairs), and some Tsons marines or termies for a start

>>54429643
at 18" range with a -1 to hit if it moves. THen if you transport it, it costs more than a knight.

If its not in a transport why are your russes within range?

>>54428873
Who the fuck is this and why is he such a primarch killer?

>>54430320
Read your codex, there's more than enough CSM and daemons options.

>>54430392

Why spend 200pt for a drop pod when raven guard can do it for free?

>>54430351

Sounds like bullshit, but if true December is Egypt month.

Toss in a MTO tomb kings, maybe?

>>54430205
Is there even a need?

>>54430351
Stop posting fake leaks faggot.

I can 100% guarantee confirm for you all that

1. Chaos and Grey Knight won't be releasing on the same day, or any other books for that matter
2. T'au won't be out this year
3. Orks WILL be out this year
4. Death Guard will be out sooner than that date.

>>54430425
Need is a strong word. Want, definitely.

>>54430159
That is a fantastic value; this is what you get for 9pt fusion pistols on all members of a squad. Looking at the damage alone, you can see five Players with FP within melta range, without a TM, can consistently kill a rhino in a single turn.

>>54430412
I have and there just isn't much that's Nurgle specific that can destroy the amount of Orks that can be fit into a 1000 point list.

>>54430427
>100% guarantee
how?? sources?? Gibe orks

>>54430276
you need to make efficient Anti-fantry platforms
I'd take a predator and have it sit there with a havoc launcher and go to town.