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anon, i`m very interesting in pirate/mercenaries organisation in Rise of Empire Era, and their ships/vehicles. Who know some good sources?

Ok, so apparently Twi'leks aren't /tg/ related according to the mod. At least it was just a warning and not a full ban.

>>54348393
Should have posted a Nautolan instead then

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>>54348082
Lot of the rise of the empire dovetails off the Clone Wars, so their vehicles and equipment remain that way for a couple of years, they start phasing in stuff like Stormtrooper infantry roughly around the first year or two. Which are basically 'budget' versions of Clone troopers, who by and large are gone by about the 3-4yr mark. In terms of a bigger picture, the old D6 Imperial Handbook is worth a look- its not '100%' consistent and its no longer canon material, but IMO its well worth using for seeing how large the army's, navy and other assorted quasi-military units (Intelligence, Compnor etc) fit into the Empire.

Where does that fit into Pirates and Mercenaries?
Well for quite a period that's what was hunting them as the Empire came down hard on the outer rim to suppress the various survivors of the Clone wars, rebellious shitholes and Hutts. Out of them, only really the hutts managed to keep their shit together (via bribes and other nefarious activity) during the rise of the Empire and as a result where prime backers of anything more organised like large mercenary units, smugglers. That lasted until the New Republic, who basically wiped them out.
Pirates got hit really hard, the Imperial navy for all its retardation and having the appearance later of two monkeys trying to fuck a football, did actually wipe out anything pirate related very quickly.
Black Sun managed to hang onto things better than most, they made good money early on by not exactly 'pirate' activity, but they'd hijack a lot of people in the outer rim, hold them for ransom and other sorts of stuff- they also have the capability at least to make decent ships, fighters and enough money to hire effective soldiers, thugs and leg breakers
Neither are exactly 'great' employees

Privateers are a thing (see D6 book Pirates and Privateers) as going solo with the Imperial navy hunting you is short lived, having patrons helps a lot

>>54348393
Mods are terrible, twileks are great

>>54348082
Check these old WEG d6 books
>Privates and Privateers
>Wretched Hives of Scum and Villainy
>Galaxy Guide 10 - Bounty Hunters
>Galaxy Guide 11 - Criminal Organizations

Those should give you a good pick of scummy pirates and credit-hungry mercs

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>>54348082
Rebel-sanctioned privateers was a thing during the entire Rise of the Empire era.

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Anyone else want to spring inter-force rivalry and strange slang on their party? I plan on having my AoR crew having to work alongside a rebel SpecOps team going full pdf related.

>We've got a Easy Op here. Intel Hitched a Ride on a Chicken holding one Very Dumb Orphan and some Sweet and Cuddly Don'ts in a Won't overrun by Boys in White, at least two Chorus Girls and one Can't. There's a high chance things will get Interesting, with TAMs and at least one GS in the area so gather all Livestock and Toys you can carry.

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Is the promo veteran instincts card allowed to be used in tournaments (new player so excuse the possibly dumb question)?

>>54349343
...then have their fighter escort talk like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKYL0tW-Ek

>>54349415
I'm pretty sure they're tournament legal

If you're worried then just bring along a normal copy as well. Although you might be asking since you don't have a normal one in which case, try to arrange to borrow one from somebody?

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>>54349428
Then their CO assigns them some bureaucratic work and stuff like this happens.

>>54349476
No one leaves until they go down to command and sign their self abuse papers

>>54348082
FFG is making a new splat for this era set to come out later this year. I'm sure they'll have some information about relevant scum groups.

>>54345293
But that was already the case with RO because of K-2SO.

>>54349458
Right, I don't have the normal copy. I was looking on eBay to buy a copy of VI and the promo art is somehow cheaper

>>54349415
It's produced by FFG so it is legal.

>>54349773
Thanks!

>>54349599
>K-2SO
Yes, this is true. And notice how everyone says that he is the only "good" and "likeable" character and the only one they cared about when he died. Literally because he was funny. K-2SO is easier to accept for me because he follows the Star Wars tradition of droid comic relief. It's not a role that I'm a fan of but I do find his banter funnier than R2/3PO and as the comic relief I don't expect anything more from him than that. But of course the fan reaction was pretty typical in a bad way as I mentioned before.

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What sorts of goofy mall ninja-grade weapons and weapon accessories might show up in a tourist-heavy flea market on Mandalore?

>>54294217 here. I ended up winning my first two games and barely losing the third and last game of the tournament by one hull. I ended up coming 3rd out of 9 and while it kind of stinks that I was so close to coming in 1st overall, I still had a blast

>>54350312
Basically anything normal but with a flamethrower and/or a jetpack tacked on.

>>54350326
That's awesome, great job! Did you have fun?

>>54350312
>cheap low-grade steel knock-offs of beskar sabers.
>overly-bladed fake crushgaunts
>misspelled brand name blasters

>>54350343
>Fake Opzip with jetpack
>Fake Loxer with build in missile launcher
>Fake Naamri backpacks that don't do anything special whatsoever despite looking like something Boba Fett might model, the missile launcher is just a beer holder.

>>54350312
>roto-vibroswords
>reverse-blade reverse-grip beskar sabers
>nunchucks covered in tacky mando'a print
>musical instruments that doubles as offensive weapons

>>54350374
I did, it was awesome! I was running late so I wasn't able to eat anything or bring any water so I was exhausted afterwards but it was a ton of fun

>>54350428
>roto-vibroswords
Is this like an inquisicopter but vibroblade? Fund it.

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>>54350452
Yep. Think pic related but vibroblades instead of lightsaber.

That would be the height of mallninja shit.

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>>54350428
>>musical instruments that doubles as offensive weapons
>Geonosis showed that sonic weapons exist in-universe and were perfectly usable
Definitely rolling a Mandalorian Noise Marine in my group's next campaign.

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>>54350312
Woostar-45, by finest Nemodian craftsman made to being Mandalorian design plans!

>>54350506
I was thinking more like this
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bes%27bev

>>54350506
There's a sonic rifle in FaHo, but it's not very good. Crits on 6, slow firing 1. The geonosian blasters are breddy gud, but restricted.

>>54350312
Depends on the area.
It will probably go from upscale (usable and expensive but slightly tacky) to shitty (chinese mystery pistol tier).

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>>54350312
pic related maybe? some poor sod is going to buy it just to prove he has the biggest piece around

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>>54350650
At what price range do the space Hi-Points start showing up?

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>>54350709
Are /k/ommanods IRL Mando's?

>>54350710
probably a step or two above the Chinese/Kyber Pass Mystery Pistol tier

>>54350428
>reverse-blade reverse-grip beskar sabers

Isn't that just a regular sword?

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>>54351632
If it's a straight sword yes, but a curved, single-edged blade would be like pic related.

A regular sabre, for example, has the edge on the convex side and be held with the blade pointing "up" from your hand
A reverse blade, reverse grip saber would have the blade be on the concave side and be held away from you, along the forearm (like ahsoka holds her lightsabers)

>>54350441

What loots did you get?

>>54348082
>>54349091
Yup, Rebels recruited a lot of pirates and privateers during the early years of the GCW. A lot of former Separatists also turned into privateers and pirates independently after they lost the Clone Wars.

>>54348862
>the Imperial navy for all its retardation and having the appearance later of two monkeys trying to fuck a football

what

>That lasted until the New Republic, who basically wiped them out.

The Hutts continued to be a powerful thing until at least the Vong times. The New Republic actually gave the Hutts more leeway and/or bribes than the Empire did as war repayment, almost akin to the USA and France in the American Revolution.

Hutts lent out a lot of aid to the Rebels and Imperials alike, depending on the individual Hutt's political stance (or more often and more important who offered the most money), and the NR had to repay quite a few promises they made to the Hutts in exchange for aiding the Rebellion, though they did go after Imperial-sided Hutts or neutral Hutts with varying degrees of ineffectivity.

Hey all,

My group is thinking about running a game using one of the various FFG systems. I'm not familiar with the mechanics and how they're utilized.

Would anyone be able to give me an example of play as far as starship combat goes? Seems hard to make it interesting with pure ToTM.

>>54353924
It's not really that complex, lad. Just skip to that section in any of the core books.

>>54350987
Where is the Space Kyber Pass located?

>>54354397
Ilium, with the rest of the Kyber shit

its geonosis

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>>54354435
>Ilum is frozen
>Geonosis is sand

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>>54352664
I got two alternate art Crack Shots as a participation prize. I was 24 points away from getting 2nd which would have gotten me an alternate art Omega Leader.

>>54355403
>Store Tournement Prizes are actually still useful and heavily used pilots and upgrades.

WHAT MADNESS IS THIS.

>>54355449
I'm pretty excited about it. I had a ton of fun but next time I wanna try replacing Vessery with someone else

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>>54355449
I heard you were talking shit like I wouldn't hear it.

>>54356419
Didn't think the dead could hear.

What are the best nucanon books besides Thrawn. I need to build a respectable collection.

>>54357245
Tarkin is reasonably solid, and IIRC was mostly written before the split, so it's basically legends as well

I want to give my weird alien race a completely different type of FTL drive, one not at all like the Star Wars hyperdrive, but not in any way as good or better. Any suggestions?

>>54357787
They fire a "pulse" and ride it like a wave.

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>>54357852
>nuclear-tier wake when entering that anyone can detect, but anything behind you is fugged

>>54357852
>>54358020
>If you don't get your speed just right to catch the wave, you get vaporized by it.

A friend of mine bought the starter kit and wants to give me the TIEs - will people nerd-rage if I but Empire stuff to use in conjunction with First Order stuff or should I just wait until they release some more First Order craft?

>>54359116

Nope, you can run First Order end Empire to your heart's content - I've never heard of anyone sperging out about that.

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Imperial Assault players, what are some of your favorite figures as far as sculpts/theme go?

I feel like so many of my favorite sculpts are unplayable in skirmish:
>Royal Guard Champion
>Biv Bodhrik
>Han Solo
At least Jet Troopers (the elite version) are quality.

>>54359116
have they said anything about more First Order releases? I feel like they'd have to wait until the next movie came out

>>54359331
Vinto, Boba, Loku, Sorin, AT-ST/Weiss, Obi-Wan, Dewbacks

So, rate this for me on a scale of 1 (nitpicky) to 10 (glorious golden autist)

My group is starting a game of Force and Destiny soon, and the GM was asking about our builds so he knew what to plan for. I told him my character was one of those "I have to be the best" types that want to learn multiple saber styles, so I made Brawn by main stat. It makes sense to me, if I'm going to use multiple styles then I I can't just use the ability associated with one style alone, and if I have to focus, to me it's not a bad idea to pick the stat that deals with both damage and defense. I also decided to with SHien for his first style, for blaster defense. The GM hears this and says that's wrong, because he has high Brawn he has to start with Shii-Cho. He's been complaining about it ever since.

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There's just one thing I want, from here on out.

I want to fly a list that takes a big steaming dump on big steaming turrets.

What do I need to never, ever finish a match with a big base still on the table ever again?

>>54357787

Steal from Sword of the Stars.

1. Dolphin-drive. Gets exponentially faster the further it is from a gravity well, but gets exponentially slower the closer it gets to a gravity well.

2. Gate network. Instantaneous travel between gates, but you have to ship the gates from place to place at sublight.

3. Spacetime Tunneling. You have to "bore" through spacetime - takes longer and is more resource-intensive than normal FTL, but once you've established the path it is faster and more efficient. Routes gradually degrade and need to be maintained.

>>54360466
I mean, yeah, you could pick up Shii-Cho despite having Brawn as your highest stat.

But Brawn doesn't increase your lightsaber damage at all. Not for real lightsabers, anyway.

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>>54353182
>what
Come on, we've seen them crash line ships into one another and there's a reason Vader makes a point of choking a few of them, they're terrible

>The Hutts continued to be a powerful thing until at least the Vong times.
Reading through Bloodline, their demise is actually kind of interesting
(genuine spoilers)
Lot of their subjugated species got support from former imperial forces and pro-imp forces in the New Republic, who essentially helped topple the major Hutt families and the Nikto put in place of those new cartels to run them- with nearly all the funds raised being channelled back to the New Order to fund military armaments and training. By around 30BBY they are just a tiny shadow of what they once where.
Hilariously though the NR basically have no functional intelligence services and they're remarkably incompetent cunts all over!

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>>54360950
>the NR basically have no functional intelligence services and they're remarkably incompetent
I miss Legends' New Republic so much.

>>54360531
Anything with autothrusters.

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>>54361062
Sort of the case of doing the same thing again and expecting a different result.
Its not, just a continuing shit fight with politicians just trying to get elected again and doing the bare minimum to stay in office. Which is sort of like most of them now, but its a bit of a grind to read through sometimes and Leia is fairly much the only bright spot along with some interesting personalities as her aides.

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>>54360950
Isn't all of that NuCanon?

I mean cool if that's your thing, your opinion man, but I'm talking more of Legends.

>>54361062
It sucks that we'll never really get a more grounded version of the NR.

In NuCanon it's stupidly incompetent and can barely function and sustain itself.

In a few Legends works it's fine, but in most it's hypercompetent and backed by a whole cavalcade of over-overpowered Mary Sues and Gary Stus, then it becomes stupidly incompetent when the Bothan dickery happens and even more incompetent when the Vong show up.

I never liked either interpretation of the New Republic but at least Legends had a few good stories about them.

>>54361501
This pic sums up /swg/ pretty well when impfags or rebfags start pissing in the punchbowl.

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>>54361572
>mean cool if that's your thing, your opinion man, but I'm talking more of Legends.
No, its just "a thing"
Look at it from my perspective, I've been running star wars games on and off since about 1993-94, (along with other games) with the vast majority of campaigns being roughly in the Rebellion era. Some being clone wars into rebel era, others being end of rebel era into (legends) New Rep and even faffed around in Old Republic a tiny bit. So when there's new material coming out, I'll chew through some of it for ideas on the setting and see if its workable for having players run around in and if they'd enjoy it.

Fairly much all of them are an alternative universe treatment, because lets face it no one wants to play for 6 months in game just to line up Luke Skywalker to stick a hot potato in an exhaust port- if anyone's doing that, it'll be a player.
At the moment, kind of a bit lost for ideas to run anything in the NR-NO era as there's just not enough material there for me to make something that's cohesive and interesting enough, I think given enough time and more material I'd be confident on being able to explore that aspect of the franchise's environment.

But I do have a 'Plan B' for my next campaign....
>evil laughter

>>54361596
Yeah I don't get it, I like the Empire because they're unapologetically arseholes all of the time. If the PC's are having a good time, there needs to be a stormtrooper pissing in their breakfast cereal every morning and then going out to their space truck to find the imperial navy has slashed the hydraulics to their landing gear because they didn't pay a bribe. Rebels are sort of the result of just being poked with the poo stick for too long
I don't run 'real world' politics alongside star wars because there's spaceships and mad cunts running around with laser swords that can electrocute you with their brain.

>>54361877
I meant more in regards to /swg/ and respective sidefags going at each other because of their real world politics.

In games though I think it's best to show both sides as assholes with redeeming qualities. Both suck but they have good sides in different ways and have different goals the players may or may not want to side with. Making one side or the other the good guys of your campaign is boring as shit unless your campaign is an explicitly Imperial/Rebel campaign where you're there less for exploring the world and more for the tactical leet combat scenarios anyway.

Otherwise giving all political affiliations the greyshading and letting the players make up their minds or go independent is way better in open-er Edge of the Empire campaigns, fitting the narrative and setting better than the "My factionfu is the right choice and you're gonna like it" approach some take in their games, be it a game where Yoda is an evil psychopath on one extreme or the Empire kicks one of the players' puppies on the other extreme of demonizing one side to heroicize your factionfu.

>>54361303
I've been reading up on autothrusters and I'm trying to figure out what the latest update means, can anyone help?
>Autothrusters now reference the specific range of the attack, and therefore never trigger against The Inquisitor’s primary weapon. (X-Wing FAQ, Version 4.1.1, Updated 03/16/2016)

I know that there's a website that you can play x wing on but I can't remember the name, anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>54362445
it means if the inqusitor shoots at you it counts as a range one attack and autothrusters doesn't trigger.

its weird, but honestly I just go with it

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So I ended up going to the tournament today, and like expected, got stomped by the Worlds-level players.
Did win one game against Fenn/Dengar/Inaldra, so that's already better than I expected.

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>>54362141
Yeah real world politics can go take a flying fuck at a wall for all I care
Generally though I stick to things being black and white at first and then getting grey and murky over time as the PC's develop and explore their characters, NPC's and the galaxy as a whole. Plus I'll throw in the odd side-swipe out of nowhere like the series of game sessions of the Star Wars "Schindler's List" and just sit there laughing my arse off as they spent 2/3rds of the game looking at me going:
>He's going to fuck us
>The longer we go along with this, the harder the fucking!
>Oh we are so fucked now
Course the actual crisis of conscience Imperial they contacted, was actually legit and smuggled prisoners off to the rebel characters to look after- which then opened a whole can of worms in of itself as PC's find themselves with dozens of former prisoners they've got to bodge up some ID's for and get offworld. They where some tough missions.

Also done the flipside of them being Empire characters and that was an interesting series of conundrums based on military interactions with civilians and inter-org fucking lunacy- the army working with the stormtroopers working with the navy, who is being hassled by the ISB and then there's these arseholes from Compnor running around wondering if they're being loyal enough.
They literally prayed for some rebels to blow something up and save them from the relentless dickbags they worked for, which split the party down the centre-
>Half of them are going full murderhobo and getting kudos from superiors
>Half are spending most of their time contemplating if they're really the good guys
Then everyone being happy when they find out they can get 'promoted' by essentially murdering their superiors in 'rebel terrorist attacks'... course, that led to the ISB wondering if they where still an effective unit and even deeper levels self dug shit

>>54362908
Oh gotcha, thanks anon

>>54362947
Awesome! Great job!

>>54357245
I've heard great things about Lost Stars and Bloodline in particular.

>>54346935
Are there any AoR modules that have been converted into Imperial campaigns?

>>54363342
No, because none of them make even an ounce of sense as imperial stuff

>>54362955
Thanks!

>>54350343
SPACEBALLS: THE FLAMETHROWER

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>>54364520

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>>54364560

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What strange labels does your party find when looking at a used starship's control panels, /swg/?

>>54365540

>Wings Stay On/Wings Fall Off

is to be found on the seat controls of every passenger seat.

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>>54364560
>>54364584

>>54362491
Vassal or Tabletop Simulator

>>54366407
Vassal was it, thanks anon

I'm Star Wars-retarded (never seen the movies, only played the old flight sims and the Jedi Knight games) - will there be some more First Order ships? Just two flavors of Tie fighters seem a little dull.

>>54366792

They've been in one film so far, and we saw only those two ships, a new Star Destroyer, and a troop carrier.

Wait till next year, Episode 8 will presumably add a whole bunch more.

>>54366792
You forgot the Upsilon Shuttle. But yea there will be at least one more TIE variant (Kylo Ren's TIE). There might be a FO Bomber coming but that is just rumors at this point

>>54365540
>Do Not Press This Button Under Any Circumstances
>I Don't Know What This Button Does
>Disengage Auto-Turret Safeties
>Drop The Bass
>Music System (Currently Only Plays Dubstep)
>Drink Machine

>>54365540
A big red label that has the text eroded off, but the button has clearly been pressed far less than the other buttons visible

>>54363586

I mean, all you have to do is swap the names and status of locations.

Whisper Base you can turn into a Rebel outpost and have the party be Imperial infiltrators.

Arda I can be Imperial defending against a massive Rebel assault.

Dead in the Water has Imperial privateers and an old Sep facility Rebels captured to make killbot droids, or something.

It's pretty easy to rig up anything from AoR for an Imperial campaign, or any kind of military campaign for that matter. Modifying Duty is about your biggest challenge.

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>>54369188
> Modifying Duty is about your biggest challenge
Here, have this.

>>54369218
There we go, even that's already done. Converting modules to Imperial adventures is easy and fun.

Now speaking of conversions I want to see a Star Wars Imperial Holiday Special. What would it be? A family of annoying probe droid talking in a language we can't understand while Vader tries to reach them for Emperor Day doing a variety show? Rebel agents break into their home and get distracted by 1970's rock bands? In the end Tarkin leads a bunch of robed Imperial Guards into a glowing light and then he sings about peace and order and triumphing over the Rebels while looking like he's on cocaine? Vader gives an awkward Han stare? And there's a cartoon about Boba Fett in there somewhere that the young probe droid watches. And tons of Harvey Korman.

>>54365540
A button that has no purpose other than to kill the person who pushes it, preferably viciously and painfully.

>"Why is there a button that floods the cockpit with plasma?"
>"Dunno. Maybe to repel boarders who've taken the cockpit?"
>"The button's IN the cockpit!"

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>>54346935
What is the comfiest planet of them all?

>>54370081
Zeltros. Planet of the space babes.

>>54370534
How are you supposed to be comfy with an eternal boner getting in the way?

I'm likely facing a (potentially Sloane) version of the ISD-1 Avenger with Boarding Troopers and Raider-1s with External Racks list soon.

I'm kicking around two different lists. What sounds better?

Ackbar on an HMC80 with the works, a TRC90, Garel's Honor with ERs, two flotillas, a bunch of A-Wings, and two shuttles plus a large bid for second with scary objectives.

Rieekan on an LMC80 with the works, two TF Antilles Hammerheads with ERs, an Assault Pelta with shields to maximum, a comms net flotilla, and a mostly rogue squadron force with a small bid for first.

I want to field the Hammerhead; I realise it doesn't have the best synergy with the Ackbar list but I think it can still pull its weight.

>>54360672
He's saying I HAVE to pick the style that uses my highest stat, if I want to use Shien I have to spend XP and Dedications on Cunning. I ask him what happens when I learn a second style, he has no answer.

Name a better Poe build then this;

T-70 Poe PS9
-Intensity
-BB-8
-Black One Title
-Comm Relay
-Autothrusters.

anyone got picturse of turbo tanks?

>>54372056
>BB-8

It's the most fun you'll ever have being wrong.

Is there a somewhat competitive build for the falcon if I bought heroes of the resistance? I'd really like to avoid by the original falcon until I expand my collection more

Going to be running an Imperial campaign where the player will be an Emperors hand. Anyone got some suggestions for a good intro mission/target, or mission in general? I figured hunting down a jedi knight would be a bigger moment later in the game

>>54372815
Why?

>>54372916
R2-D2 is simply better at winning games.

Anyone more experienced than me mind explaining how pattern analyzer and push the limit work together? I've seen people mention the combo but I don't know why it works

>>54372859
Rey w/ Finn, Kanan, new title, and whatever else you want is a pretty solid set up

>>54373091
Pattern analyzer swaps the "perform action" and "check stress" steps. Normally you execute maneuver -> check stress -> perform action. With pattern analyzer you execute maneuver -> perform action -> check stress. So say you execute a green maneuver, you use pattern analyzer then perform an action. You then use push the limit to perform another action and stress yourself. Finally, you check stress. Since you executed a green maneuver, you remove one stress token.

>>54373326
Thanks, that makes sense. Follow up to make sure I understand: say that you're stressed before you execute your maneuver. If you pick a green maneuver will you be unable to perform an action because you check for stress after the action step?

>>54372875
Honestly, have you read the SAGA edition TFA campaign guide?

Its got a treasure trove of exactly what you're looking for in it.

>>54373991
Correct, so don't use pattern analyzer in that case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pryBP4K-_34

Battlefront 2 looks like it has an actually interesting take on the Empire for a change.

Empirefag my dude, you're gonna like it.

>>54370081
Naboo is pretty comfy. Alderaan before that big space mining accident.

>>54375176
Too bad they kind of miss the point of Battlefront being that you're a faceless grunt and making you an Imperial Commando instead. It's almost like some monkey's paw with some exec thought they could kill two birds with one stone giving us the Imperial Commando game lusted after for a decade and the much wanted Battlefront story but completely diluting the impact of both by mixing them.

>>54375271
Naboo would be nice if not for the gooberfish, but I guess those aren't a problem unless you're underwater.

>>54375323

Eh you say that but the old BF2 had you playing as notionally the same clone all through the 501st.
Of course i mean, that's less of a big deal when theyre all fucking clones, but you know what i mean.

>>54365540
>That machine that goes *ping*

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tKodtNFpzBA

"Beautiful flower arrangement"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlAsSyDAWR8

"Cross the beams"

"Aft refresher light switch"

>>54375108
Gotcha, I missed the part that you get to choose when you want to use pattern analyzer. Thanks!

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Did they start using darker paint on the assault frigate? I just got mine and it's darker than my other ships and the pictures online.

>>54375706

Man, I fucking loved Last Starfighter.

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>>54376029
Here's a promo image, images other people have posted look light as well. The lighter color matches the other two rebels ships so its kind of disappointing to see this color.

>>54361877
>At the moment, kind of a bit lost for ideas to run anything in the NR-NO era as there's just not enough material there for me to make something that's cohesive and interesting enough, I think given enough time and more material I'd be confident on being able to explore that aspect of the franchise's environment.
I struggle to think of any interesting conflicts in NuCanon as well. I hope we get more small factions in between the NR and FO, like the Mandalorians, a re-canonized Corporate Sector (was it ever decanonized?), and those ridiculous nose-tongue lizards

Ha ha holy shit the x-wing forum is so bad right now it's genuinely making me depressed.

>>54376394
Why?

I want to paint my TIEs but I don't know how to paint them.

>>54376086
>>54376029
I realized that that ship has the exact same paint colors as the X-wing YT-2400-

Ihad a friend who got a YT 2400 that was more grey than mine-probably a paint defect.

Has anyone tried out the Tie Aggressor yet? How is it?

>>54376394
Why is it so bad?

>>54376449
Which types of TIE? I could show you the paint schemes I did for them.

>>54376442
>>54376394
Forums are never good, and the game is beginning to 40k-inize. When there is a clear difference in power level between a casual list and a competetive list(listbuilding wise, as opposed to player skill), those groups interact less and tend to look down apon one or the other, which makes the community less welcoming with time.

That's why i'm in favor of massive sweeping nerfs, lest this game turn into the shitfest that is/was 7th ed 40k. If i say that on the forums though, retards crawl out of the woodwork.

>>54376449
Maybe this can help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHjr6gOqCKk

>>54376515
Meh. It is right along the power curve to hang out in an earlier meta, and has a Soontir counter 4 waves late. Also, it has a shitty generic that is missing an ept.

It's not a bad ship, but the Autist cruiser and the Scurrrrrrg are wildly above the power curve.

>>54376540
>I could show you the paint schemes I did for them.
Not them but I'd love to see what you did. I want to give painting my ships a shot and I could always use some ideas

>>54376466
Shit, If its a paint defect I kind of feel like contacting FFG support, they were really nice about replacing a lost part before. Not sure if they handle "wrong paint colors" though, also I looked up more pics of people's models and a lot of other people have assault frigates that are more grey than they should be.

>>54376579
Mostly I did some mix of red, black, and white- I posted most of it on /tg/ a couple of months ago before my collection got lost (if you see some umbrella-corp TIE/SF near chicago, let me know)

If you haven't seen them, I could go pull up the photos from the archive.

>>54376515
FFG forums are complete garbage occupied by the worst combination of militant casuals, delusional tryhards, and just straight crazy people

>>54376515
>>54376442
I'm sorry I was just venting, I'm sure there's nothing actually wrong with it. It just feels really mean spirited and negative lately. I'm certain that my state of mind is responsible and not forum itself.

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So, I'm trying to work out an Executioner build that can hit automatic instakill crits (150+). I'm almost there; a guaranteed +140 on every attack. I need to know how I can hit the magic number.

Lightsaber:
Triumph on lightsaber-building roll. Adds an auto-advantage (automatic crit)
Max'd out krayt pearl adds Vicious 4 (automatic crit+40)
Extended Hilt mod adds Vicious +1 (automatic crit+50)
Superor Hilt Personalization adds auto-advantage (automatic crit+60)
Curved Hilt adds auto-advantage (automatic crit+70)

Character:
Executioner has 3 ranks of Lethal Blows (automatic crit+100)
The Anx species gives another rank of Lethal Blows (automatic crit+110)
Executioner talent "Marked for Death" lets you commit one force die for 2 auto-advantage (automatic crit+130)
Executioner talent "Essential Kill" adds FR to attacks, can spend FP to add advantage. Our 1 force die remaining (after committing one) has no blank sides, so guaranteed at least 1 advantage (automatic crit+140.

Are there any other ways I can add automatic advantage or another +10 to Critical Hit rolls? Or any way to get a melee weapon to an effective Vicious 8 and Crit 1? Preferably without absurd weapon-crafting shenanigans? I'm so close, I can almost taste it.

>inb4 "Just dip into Marauder"I'm trying to get this done with a minimal expenditure of XP (currently this costs 185). And, for much the same reason I'll only be satisfied with an automatic +150 crit before dice rolls, (i.e. autism) I want to stay within one class if I can. Ideall
y the solution would be gear-based.

>>54376515
It's a weird little ship. It's pretty basic compared to the spectrum and scurrrrrrrg. I think kestal has potential and the PS2 might have a home. I'm hoping it's like the SF and we're all just underrating it until it catches on.

>>54376540
FOs

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>>54377396
>>54376579
Here's my TIE/SF, FO's will be next.

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>>54377523
>>54377396
And the TIE/FO and a TIE/LN in the background.

>>54377326
It's just super disappointing, it could have been a much more universally good expansion if there were some changes- Synced turret not being shit (not requiring a TL to shoot and TLT needing one, the Onyx Escort having an EPT, etc)

FFG's design team and playtesters dropped the ball on this wave.

>>54377523
Umbrella Corp in space...

>>54377312
I know you said you'd prefer not to have "absurd weapon-crafting shenanigans", but I don't know if it can be done without it. This one here isn't too bad, as hypothetical crafted weapons go.

You'll need 12 advantage on the roll, or 8 advantage and a Triumph. Theoretically possible with PC-level stats, though not likely.

Start with the Vibro-Weapon template. Use six advantage to buy three Vicious boosts, as well as two to get another hard point. Spend your last four (or a Triumph) on lowering Crit rating to 1.

Vicious 4, crit 1, 4 hard points. One will go to Superior, the remaining three to Energy Overclock Setting from Keeping the Peace. Overclock can add both an automatic advantage and Vicious +3, and Superior gives another advantage.

Crit 1 plus 2 advantage plus Vicious 7 is a +80 crit on every attack, based purely on the weapon. By my math, your Anx Executioner will add 70 to that number (four ranks of Lethal Blows plus 3 guaranteed advantage), which should bring you to your automatic instakill.

That said, the "vorpal sword" this build relies on only has Brawn+1 and Pierce 2 for damage. Those crit rolls won't mean shit if you can't penetrate the soak, and forget about damaging vehicles. A lightsaber works better in that department, but I'm not sure if there's a way to give it any more crit boosts than you have.

>>54370081
dantooine

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>>54377871
Nice colony.

It'd be a shame if somebody stepped on it

>>54377576
Honestly, we're having a lot of fun with this stuff locally. 2 Store Champs last weekend and another this Sunday and the sky hasn't fallen.

>>54377576

I think cruise missiles killed it's EPT on the generic. We all thought it was TLT and/or ruthlessness, but you could run 3 at PS5 with double cruise, deadeye, LWF and basically any turret you like but TLT for a follow up. You can already run four with just double Cruise Missiles, that makes some nasty alpha strike packages at a higher PS than most other ships in that style.

That said, reports seem to be that despite its relative lack of flash, it's a very solid ship. A proper imperial workhorse.

>>54377523
>>54377576
Pretty neat! What paint did you use?

>>54378848
Citadel's Mephistion Red- it's a perfect color match for the Royal Guard. >>54378589
I just don't see 4 cruise missile Onyx Escorts with deadeye and cruise control missiles being that good that they need to design around them- mass cruise seems decently easy to play around, especially on a 2 agility ship with 5 HP and effectively no tokens.

I just wanted a pair of generics to fly alongside an ace, but since you effectively can't load them up that well and Double Edge is strictly better...

Spacebump

>>54372875
>I figured hunting down a jedi knight would be a bigger moment later in the game

If they're an Emperor's Hand they're already in the big leagues. Even a Navy pilot without crazy Force power like Steele was still being tasked with wiping out entire fleets of enemies. By the time you're an Emperor's Hand, hunting a jedi knight is tedium.

If you want to start the stakes lower, ISB agents or even Army or Stormtrooper commandos is a much better fit, then gradually progress to Hand status when they consistently prove power and worth.

>>54380906
This, desu. Start them in the 501st and let them grow from there.

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>>54376029
I'm of the opinion that the entire original run of AFIIs had their washes fucked up and it was put on way too heavily, precisely because in the promo image you picked up on the color more matches the other Rebel ships. This isn't that surprising though, the original wave 1 run of Armada had the worst paintjobs and assemblies of any FFG minis ever.

We'll see if it's the same when the AFII gets reprinted. I'd actually probably pick up two more if they were the proper colors.

>>54376394
It's new release week, it's always been like this. People will figure things out in time, both for better and worse. I'm not that afraid of Nym though. People seem to have forgotten that Ion control is a thing.

>>54379246
>I just don't see 4 cruise missile Onyx Escorts with deadeye and cruise control missiles being that good

Really? I can. I'm in agreement with other anon. 4x Onyx with deadeye, cruise, ABT, and GC sounds like goddamn cancer to me. That is a lot of firepower and closing ability in a list that's above virtually every other generic. Or take two and 50 points of other Imperial bullshit. Even one would make a solid flanker, and then you'd probably have the points for a better turret too. I'm glad there's not another stupid deadeye ship in the game.

Just played a game against the new hotness for Rebels where they replaced Braylen with Lowwrhick. God that was cancer. Never before have I so wanted for Imperials to take Arc caster. Vessery with Ruthlessness and Arc caster with /D would give all those close in Rebel lists something to seriously think about.

>>54381282

Ah christ I wasn't even thinking about Chips. They're so vital and so gross at the same time.

I think the Onyx Escorts are a little underappreciated, they're a great platform for generic hunting with missiles or turrets if you really needed such a thing - I just don't think the game is in a place for that particular tactic to shine. Maybe. People are gonna try and run deadeye scurrgs.

>>54357245
Lost Stars, while its YA, it's still good.

>>54371190

Well, Rieekan got nerfed variably heavily (there's still some discussion as to whether he goes off at first opportunity or you still get to choose when he get's used)
If he's using Sloane then you can expect fighters, and those fighters will be ably to pretty heavily ablate your aces defence tokens and are also able to reroll crits when they attack ships. So, I'd say, expect Decimators? He could in theory chuck upto 5 of them (or 4+Rhymer for extra range*) into the Avenger with Expandohanger and RLB's and skullfuck something that thinks getting into the Avengers rear arc is a good idea.

So you'll have to consider non-ace answers to that. A-Wings seem like a good idea, althought to be honest good old X-Wings aren't that bad when it comes to dogfighting, neither are B-Wings. Mix in some unique squadrons like Rogue, Dagger and Green to taste.

Now if you want to use Hammerheads, maybe you should swap out Ackbar for Cracken, toss in the Garel's Honor title on a Hammerhead + Engine Techs and together with it's wingman just ram the fuck out his ISD. Move them last, at max speed with a Nav token ready and quadruple ram that fucker right through his shields in a single turn, and set yourself up so that when he tries to GTFO next turn you have follow up.
Otherwise he prioritises your light cheap Hammerheads whilst you choose between hitting the ISD or whittling down his activation advantage by going for the Raiders.

*less than it used to be, but still a little bit more

>>54372056

You're close. It's actually PTL + BB-8 + Primed Thrusters + Integrated.

I still like the Intensity+Comm Relay synergy though.

>>54372929

If we wanted to win tournaments we'd just take Miranda.

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>>54376394

You mean this finally happened?

>>54383802
>Well, Rieekan got nerfed variably heavily (there's still some discussion as to whether he goes off at first opportunity or you still get to choose when he get's used)

No, it's pretty cut and dry. Rulebook says all upgrade cards are optional to resolve unless they specifically state otherwise (ex: errata-d Jamming Field)

>Now if you want to use Hammerheads, maybe you should swap out Ackbar for Cracken, toss in the Garel's Honor title on a Hammerhead + Engine Techs and together with it's wingman just ram the fuck out his ISD.

Hammerheads can't take engine techs. Also, Cracken's a poor fit for Hammerheads, since they can't exceed speed 3 and are pretty unmanageable at that speed. They're no CR90.

>If he's using Sloane then you can expect fighters, and those fighters will be ably to pretty heavily ablate your aces defence tokens and are also able to reroll crits when they attack ships. So, I'd say, expect Decimators? He could in theory chuck upto 5 of them (or 4+Rhymer for extra range*) into the Avenger with Expandohanger and RLB's and skullfuck something that thinks getting into the Avengers rear arc is a good idea.

5 Decimators RLB-d into a Sloane Avenger is a dream come true. You can just fly away from it and bully flotillas and he's spent 200 points that can't do anything.

Regardless, the spicy new Avenger build specifically uses boarding troopers, so no RLBs. Decimators are a tough fit too, because they can't burn ace defense tokens, only ships; and Sloane's strength is bringing 50-60 points of fighters, killing aces silly fast, and then supporting her ships. Like a reverse-Sato.

>>54384183
>5 Decimators RLB-d into a Sloane Avenger is a dream come true. You can just fly away from it and bully flotillas and he's spent 200 points that can't do anything.

Correction: Sloane, 5 Decimators, and an ISD-I with Avenger, Expanded Hangars, and Rapid Launch Bays (and no other upgrades) is a full 260 points. Depending on the other upgrades on Avenger, it can push 300.

>>54381407
>>54381282
I think the problem might actually be deadeye en-masse for massive alpha strikes. It easily causes metagame problems due to eliminating massive amounts of stuff in the first rounds of combat.

>>54384183

So, Riekkan, don't bother using the Hammerheads as Ramships, but use the taskforce titles to either make them killier or tankier? Stick to using non-named Squadrons?

Something (very roughly) like this?

http://armada.fabpsb.net/permalink.php?sq=e0n6f39e0n6f39r31c8o16t8t2f29r29b1f27r29b2r49r13r13r13r33r6r6r6r39

[ REBEL FLEET (399 points)
1 • Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette - External Racks - Task Force Antilles (42)
2 • Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette - External Racks - Task Force Antilles (42)
3 • MC80 Star Cruiser - General Rieekan - Lando Calrissian - Quad Turbolaser Cannons - H9 Turbolasers - Mon Karren (156)
4 • GR-75 Medium Transports - Slicer Tools - Quantum Storm (26)
5 • GR-75 Medium Transports - Comms Net (20)
6 • Green Squadron A-wing Squadron (12)
7 • A-wing Squadron (11)
8 • A-wing Squadron (11)
9 • A-wing Squadron (11)
10 • Rogue Squadron X-wing Squadron (14)
11 • X-wing Squadron (13)
12 • X-wing Squadron (13)
13 • X-wing Squadron (13)
14 • VCX-100 Freighter (15)

Obviously you may want to drop stuff for initiative bids.

>>54383928
Poe has a place over Miranda. She's generally more expensive and does better against aces and arc-locked ships. Poe runs cheaper, black one is great against ordnance/omega leader, and he poops on turreted ships. BB-8 is cute and usually enough to win you a store championship, but R2-D2 is just more consistent.

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The Scurrg might genuinely be my favourite miniature to come out for X Wing. How do I build a triple Scurrg list? Here's what I'm looking at right now but I don't know if dropping the Munitions off the second bomber for Autoblaster might be an idiot plan or not.

Lok Revenant
>Deadeye
>Homing Missile
>Extra Munitions
>Havoc
>Fire Control System
>"Genius"
>Guidance Chips

Lok Revenant
>Deadeye
>Cruise Missile
>Boba Fett
>Autoblaster Turret
>Guidance Chips

Lok Revenant
>Deadeye
>Cruise Missile
>4-LOM
>Guidance Chips

100 points exactly. Two of them are pared down a little to make one a powerhouse and to give a few good toolbox tricks across the list.

>>54385542

This ends up looking like it should be a large model to me, rather than small.

For that matter, why is the U-Wing a large, motherfucker's tiny.

>>54385603

It's literally only so you can put Deadeye on it, or use a BR to get out of the range of a Genius'd Bomb.

The flipside of it is that it's now vulnerable to Ion Cannons and Turrets, something the JumpScout never needed to really worry about, and it does NOT have enough green dice not to get chain ion'd either.
If TripleLoks become a thing I can see non-disposable Ion weapons making a splash.

>>54385542
It's a very nice model. I like the list, have you flown it yet?

>>54385675

Nope. Literally took the things out of the plastic half an hour ago.

I think I'll be able to get in a couple of games after work tomorrow with any luck.

>>54384225
>>54384183
Double correction: Decimators have rogue, so no Sloane.

>>54384668
Rieekan with ramming Hammerheads works alright, actually, because he gaurantees they live to get the ram off.

A Garel's Honor can plow full speed into an ISD front arc, throw a faceup at it, and rest assured that even though the ISD is going to do 50 damage to it next turn, it'll still be in the way, block the ISD from moving (another facedown), and then get to activate, pop external racks, and ram the ISD for a second faceup.

Three gauranteed hull damage, two of which is faceup, plus a Hammerhead Concentrate Fire + External Racks double arc. It's not bad at all, shame you can only take Garel's once.

FYI, your link doesn't work for me.

Regardless, that's a LOT of points in Squadrons, with no real way to command them. Sloane fleets tend to run 60-80 points of (very lethal) fighters, I don't want to counter that with 100+. And in that build you haven't even got a way to command them, so no alpha strike potential.

The idea would be to keep it cheap (something around 40-60 points) and fly them defensively inside of flack range.

>>54385603

U-Wing is large so it can be a better blocker - probably. Also take shit like APL etc to be a better blocker.

>>54385542
I really want to get a few of these

Hey /swg/, how does this look?
Btw I'm the same guy who ran this Han with Norra for the tournament

YT-1300: · Han Solo (46)
Predator (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
· Luke Skywalker (7)
· C-3PO (3)
· Millennium Falcon (Evade) (1)
U-Wing: · Cassian Andor (27)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire Control System (2)
Ion Projector (2)
· Ezra Bridger (3)
· Hera Syndulla (1)
Pivot wing (0)0
-- TOTAL ------- 100p. --

I'll switch IP for APL when I get APL

>>54392295
How is the u wing? I've heard mixed things about it

>>54392818

It's generally poor. But it comes with good cards like Expertise and Inspiring Recruit. It works better in Epic or Team Epic where it can essentially work like a fatter HWK (I had Cassian with IR's work as a wingman for a Raging TFA Chewie for instance) but generally it's not seen as good.

Cruise Missiles might make Bohdi Rook come out to play MAYBE, but I'd be suprised.

>>54392818

The few times I've tried to use it, it just dies real quick whatever I do.

I'm gonna keep trying though, I fucking love that ship.

>>54392818
It's really just a big X-Wing, with all the benefits and drawbacks of one (added benefit/drawback of being a large base ship). It has some neat abilities, like the 0 maneuver and the pivot wing, as well as the aforementioned upgrade cards. Also its system upgrade slot is really neat, especially for FCS.

Problem is it can't tank well, since it's a 4 shield/4 hull ship.

My version posted above was suggested in a previous thread (specifically FCS/Hera/Ezra) and I've done well enough with it.

Bistan is also a near must for Autoblaster Ten Numb

I'm trying to predict where the Rebel meta is going with this current release.
This was my first thought, a MiraNym twin TLT and Bombs build.

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!139:135,126,-1,-1,166,237,-1:-1:16:U.127;254:19,135,126,241,-1,-1,127:53:25:U.107,u.180&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron&obs=

Miranda Doni — K-Wing 29
Twin Laser Turret 6
Extra Munitions 2
Sabine Wren 2
Bomblet Generator 3
Cluster Mines 4
Advanced SLAM 2
Ship Total: 48

Captain Nym (Rebel) — Scurrg H-6 Bomber 30
Deadeye 1
Twin Laser Turret 6
Extra Munitions 2
Cruise Missiles 3
Cluster Mines 4
Accuracy Corrector 3
R5-P8 3
Guidance Chips 0
Havoc 0
Ship Total: 52

Two TLTs (one of which being the hateful AC+TLT combo) 4 cluster mines, a Bomblet Dispensor, Sabine and a Dead Eye Cruise Missile combo for Nym, and both at PS8 for ease of maneouvering. Oh, and R5-P8, who has never not been incredibly annoying.

My other thoughts are variants of whatever Paul Heaver is playing with now. Last time I checked that was that 4man Biggs-Rex-StressBraylen-Jess Pava list. Possibly with the Aussie mixed in now, maybe replacing Biggs with Lowrick, since the nerf hammer is circling Biggs like he's a 19 blond girl who's decided to go swimming at night of the Amity coastline.
Sooner or later you are going to need a bigger boat.

I'm wanting to try out deathrain in a casual play with some friends. Any suggestions for builds and teammates so that I'm at least somewhat competitive and not completely blown out of the water?

>>54346935
>>54346935
Sup /tg, I need advice on Nym.

I'm going to be getting a Scurrrrrrrrg since I need 2 copies of Cruise Missile and a copy of Bomblet Generator, but I figure I might as well find a use for him.

Firstly, I'm not sure I have a sue for him in Scum- ATM all I have for them is 2 Kihraxz, Brobots, and a Firespray, and that seems like it might be difficult to add Nym to.

For Rebels, I am thinking running Corran+Nym or Dash+Nym might work.

What would you do to make a 42 point Nym> a 52-or-less nym?

Is nym even usable at those point levels?

I assume Genius + Bomblet + VI is the way to go, but as a question- can you escape a Genius bomblet with just a barrel roll, or do you need Engine?

>>54397113
Start with Bomblet Generator, and go from there. It depends on which bomb types you want to give him, and what is the rest of you list.

What else do you want to fly alongside him?

>>54397207
I faced a firespray and scurrg last weekend. The firespray didn't get much action since my opponent misjudged things and flew off the map really early.

As for teammates, I was thinking maybe Ryad or Omega Leader. I also just got the interceptor and imperial aces pack so maybe soontir fel?

>>54397207
Barrel roll cannot safely get you out of genius range. Boost can.

>>54397528
Soontir isn't the best option if you have that many bombs-he has 3 hp and needs to arc dodge. Shitting up the field is not something he likes.

The issue is that the punisher is bad-you need some sort of control elements to force people into your bombs. TIE/D vessery maybe, alongside OL.

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So I had some thoughts on the EU that I jotted down while high:

The #StarWars abandoned universe was never meant to be read or consumed encyclopedically. It worked much better as a set of distantly related stories with large gaps in between. The events of the movies served as a reference point, and rather than explaining "plotholes" or showing previously referenced material, the movies themselves became reference material. Think of Leia's quote "And don't say the Death Star" in the Force Awakens was one such example. But the EU was magical because eventually it became SELF-referential. It built on itself, but using stories that the reader may not want to read. Bad stories were filtered out, their exciting ideas canon but with no need to read them. You didn't NEED to read Dark Empire to know that Luke had at one point fallen to the Dark Side-the reference to that event itself is tantalizing. Shit happens offscreen ALL THE TIME in Star Wars. Reconstructing the mystery between large time skips oh what happened through bits and pieces of exposition is fun, and TFA didn't have enough of it. A New Hope set out to create a new property, and it was rife with these tantalizing lines. A bad Star Wars book will always be better in the imagination of its reader-and that's what made the EU suceed, and why sites like Wookiepedia are an abomination. NuCanon took this idea to the absolute max.

ALL of the EU was suddenly expunged, or so it seemed. Gradually, bits and pieces of it began to creep back. The old canon wasn't dead-it was shrouded in Legends. And when a figure walks out of a legend, they become beloved by the fanbase-look at our reaction to Grand Admiral Thrawn or any remote hint that the KotOR characters could be referenced. Star Wars has become re-mythologized again.

But I'm really scared for what films like Rogue One or the Han Solo movie do that. Tell exciting stories with the anthology films-don't give us more prequels explaining things we don't need to know.

>>54398653
I see you posted this on reddit as well.

>>54398773
We've tied ourselves together anonof course an /swg/er would be on ExapndedUniverse[/spoilers].

DARK GREETINGS

>>54398828
There's probably a not-insignificant crossover, to be honest. Much as 4chan hates reddit and vice versa, there's still obviously plenty who browse both.

>>54346935
New episode of the Kessel Run when?

Also, what's a good podcast to listen to if I like the Krayts?

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>>54364584

>>54399016
That isn't true in the slightest redditor
>>54398828
You have to go back and take EUist shit with you

>>54399539
>EUist shit

Bro if you read my analysis you'd understand why I think the EU's canon is dumb too and that I actually think its better served as bits and pieces in NuCanon

>>54399539
Anon, I've been on 4chan since well before I knew what reddit even was.

>>54399554
Why the fuck would I read anything from Reddit?
>>54399558
I see through your lies

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>>54399539
>You have to go back and take EUist shit with you

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>>54399612
>from Reddit
It's also on my Tumblr :

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>>54399662
Even worse

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>>54399685
>smug anime photo

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Will Star Wars ever be great again?

>>54399700
>Not knowing who e;r is
More proof that you have to go back

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>>54399772
I don't know man, you're part of a community designed to make things great. It's on you. You want Star Wars to be great? Run a great game. Shit or get off the pot.

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>>54399773
Oh I know him. Used to watch his videos in fact.

>>54399805
That was a test and now you have outted yourself as a redditor. E;R is straight from r/The_Donald

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>>54399839
>54399839
Oh no. I hope I don't get banned.

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>>54399662
>>54399700
>>54399839
>Redditors

>>54399382
Recording tomorrow night. I pretty much just listen to the krayts besides our stuff so I wouldn't know what to recommend. The Mynocks and S&V are cool dudes, so them I guess.

why the fuck do I need to spent a hardpoint to put a fucking flashlight on my gun? I can do that shit with duct tape or hose clamps.

>>54400129
Because that takes up surface area on the gun, which limits how many other things you can tape on.

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>>54400155
if /k/ has taught me anything it's that the only limit for how much shit you can put on a gun is how much you can carry

>>54400181
>the Gadgeteer's Blaster Rifle

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>>54400129
You could use a hose clamp until the recoil shakes it off and space gaff tape would melt after any serious use.
Generally I'm ok with people doing quick bodge mods (taking up a room on the gun) but they also get to fall off after 1-2 threat

My friend has proposed a 200pt Epic Game. I have agreed because I recently bought Fenn Rau and then the Scurrg and fitting both in 100pts is a bit tight.
This was what I came up with:

Sol Sixxa — Scurrg H-6 Bomber 28
Deadeye 1
Synced Turret 4
Extra Munitions 2
Cruise Missiles 3
Bomblet Generator 3
Fire-Control System 2
"Genius" 0
Guidance Chips 0
Havoc 0
Ship Total: 43

Fenn Rau — Protectorate Starfighter 28
Attanni Mindlink 1
Plasma Torpedoes 3
Autothrusters 2
Concord Dawn Protector 1
Ship Total: 35

Guri — StarViper 30
Attanni Mindlink 1
Advanced Sensors 3
Black Market Slicer Tools 1
Autothrusters 2
Virago 1
Ship Total: 38

Zuckuss — G-1A Starfighter 28
Attanni Mindlink 1
Boba Fett 1
Fire-Control System 2
Tractor Beam 1
Mist Hunter 0
Ship Total: 33

Kavil — Y-Wing 24
Veteran Instincts 1
Synced Turret 4
Bomb Loadout 0
R4-B11 3
Ion Bombs 2
Ship Total: 34

Binayre Pirate — Z-95 Headhunter 12
Cruise Missiles 3
Glitterstim 2
Guidance Chips 0
Ship Total: 17

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I was tempted to proxy the new Guns 4 Hire cards and bring in Talonbane, but in the end decided against it.
Nevertheless, Talonbane Cobra's time IS coming, and hell is gonna be riding with him.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm aware that 200pts isn't really /swg/'s baliwick, such as it is. I'm 99% certain he's going to be imperials and he's going to use a TLT Agressor in some capacity. He was asking about my two Defenders last week as well, plus I know he's got a Punisher, but whether he'll use it as a Minefield Mapper in a 200pt game remains to be seen.

>>54400129
FFG fucked up by adding optional mods to basic shit like that, the mods make them too valuable to not take up a hardpoint.

>>54402026
In Epic, jousting is king- think if your list can handle something like 4 juke defenders, apunisher that puts bombs in flank paths, and an ace of some sort for the late game.

Or something along the lines of a massive Crack Swarm.

>>54403387

Well I can discount Quad Defenders because we only have 2. The largest Crack Swarm he could throw at me would be... 4 Crack Blacks, 2 FO equivalents and maybe if he get's desperate a pair of Royal Guard Squints as well. But it's more likely he's going to go Fel and Intensity Carnor with those two.

Flank Path shitting Punisher seems plausible, but I'm not running a single large base ship in this list and I'm roughly confident I can scoot around or generally mitigate this. The Agressor is definitely getting used, most likely with a TLT, I was explaining the benefits of Kestral as a closer with his ability last week, so I might see that. I suspect he'll go for elites over numbers in general so I expect a Decimator build of some kind.

>>54403446
Well, the point of flank-shitting with defenders is that you won't hit the mines, it forces you into a long straight lane where the defenders can 4k forever-mines are just there to keep you from running away into rocks where they can't chase super well.

And with both of you bringing elite lists, you will be fine with your current list. Aces are weaker against massed firepower, and that's what youeffectively see as point levels go up.

I was thinking he would try to go for efficency- taking multiple generics, etc.

In comparison, my Epic list (at 300, but Raider is 140) is 6 Weapons Guidance+Crack Shot Omega Squadron pilots, a support raider built on combining Operations Specialist and Tactician, and Whisper as a late-game cleaner.

>>54394835
This Nym build seems overbuilt. I would run VI over Deadeye as a start.

>>54403517
Well it's not like Miranda needs more points put on her is it?

>>54403500

Last time we tried a 200pt game, the number of moving parts got to him and his brain exploded out the back of his skull in a breathtaking tableau of bone and gore, so that's why I'm pretty sure he's going to try to keep his numbers down.

Then next week, Armada. I'm deeply tempted to get a Raider and Light Cruiser for my Imperials (Core + Fighter Box1 + Gladiator) or should I get something else?

>>54400129
Just get some scanner goggles, lad.

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Anybody like Thrawn new design?

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>>54404451
It's not particularly bad or great, though I am wondering why nuThrawn's skull is shaped so oddly even outside of Rebels.

>>54404506
He wasn't alien enough

>>54404506
Because they used Peter Cushing's facial features as a baseline when they designed NuThrawn

>>54404506
I think they wanted to make it clear he wasn't the same kind of alien as Cad Bane.

>>54404506
How would you appreciate the House of Mouse if you didn't know it was nuThrawn at all times?

It's also possible they wanted to just make him more alien looking than a coat of paint and some contacts.

>>54404592
But chiss are near human. They should look more like a human than a fucking twi-lek

>>54403666
Well, you do need/want a bomblet generator. And miranda can always be fatter/an initiative bid.

VI, AC, Cruise, Genius, EM, Engine, bomblet, TLT is something I like.

>>54403687
It's not number of moving parts that makes it complex, it's number of different moving parts. If you have 6 identical generics, that's barely any more complex than 1 generic, as they usually do the same thing.

>>54382195
Seconding Lost Stars.

>>54405273
Sorry for the retarded question but what do all those abbreviations mean? I just started playing x wing and I'm still learning the terms

>>54406290

Veteran Instincts
Accuracy Corrector
Extra Munitions
Twin Laser Turret

>>54404451
The new design isn't as much the problem as the simple fact that his character is more or less ruined. The nu canon books, comics, etc are just complete shit. The new Thrawn book is such a massive step back in quality from Zahn's old EU material, not even taking into account that he got his ass kicked by a bunch of worthless nobody D-listers on Rebels when the original version of him was beating the main Star Wars cast and almost won.

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Why didn't FFG just stick to the rectangle design? Why make these oval and evades rectangle?

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>>54407382
And the alt art pilot for Q3

>>54406577
In rebels he seriously fucks up the rebellion, even if he can't handle the MC's plot armor.

>>54407382

To make them easier to tell apart at a quick glance.

It has always annoyed me that the cardboard tokens for Focus, Evade and (now that it's relevant) Reinforce have been so similar in shape and colour.

>>54406577
>>54407466

What I got, watching that last double episode was that Thrawn's plan was perfect and he only lost due to the human element. Had his orders been followed properly the Rebels would never have been able to contact the Mandalorians and without their help would have lost.

>>54404451
I really don't like his head design.

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What can I have a group of PC's do to earn the trust of a paranoid rebel cell who worry they're imperial spies? The PC's start off session 1 on a botched, rookie, not thought through attack on an Imperial compound. They're rescued by a more open minded member of this cell who brings them back to base and gets chewed out by her boss. But the cell is stuck with these new peeps now. What can they have the PC's do to prove their trustworthiness?

So, my buddy got me an X-Wing miniature (a HWK-290 to be exact since he knows I'm a huge fan of the Jedi Knight series) as part of my birthday gift yesterday (the rest was a bunch of Destiny booster packs since we play that often), but I have never played this before. I have no other ships nor do I have the base game. He recently bought the base game so I assume he wants to play some time. How do I go about getting started with this game and building a squadron? Got any good recommendations for what I can pair with this ship? I'm a bit intimidated by the cost of entry to all this and would like to know more.

So what do you guys use to carry around your xwing minis and all the cards? My collection is getting quite large and I don't have a good way to organize or transport them.

>>54409354

First up, how about you give the base game a shot and see if you actually enjoy the damn thing?

Secondly, there's been a good series of "X-Wing 101" artictles on the FFG website, by assorted pro players and notable community members. Each basically offers a good entry point to the game for 101 dollars, and depending on what you're keen on, one of them is likely to look cool to you.

>>54409633

I use to use a fifty litre black trash back loose in the back seat of my car but I guess I have more than fifty litres of x wing now.

>>54408443
You send them on a mission to kill imperials
You torture them and see if they break (not something a proper rebel cell would do but hey)
Split them up and put them in jail with people who are or are pretending to be other imperial prisoners. You have the place bugged and see what happens.
Also, you send them to kill imperials. Maybe put them on a jury rigged ship so it will explode if they don't do it within a certain time

>>54409699
Oh I'm sure I'll enjoy it, have wanted to try for years and I love how it looks. Big fan of turn based tactics and strategy games, and nothing is cooler to me than Star Wars. But yes, that is prudent and practical advice to try it before investing. I'll check out those articles as well. Thanks!

>almost every online retailer has TIE/x1 title only available as a bundle with Advanced Targeting Computer
>average price is $15 per set, meaning it's $60 for a set of four each (four x1 four atc)
>when x1 is offered on its own, it's like $12-$13

How am I supposed to believe 8 upgrade cards is worth 60% of the expansion. The TIE advanced that comes with the Raider, without the x1 titles, is worth $20 by itself, and Palp was going $50 by himself at his height.

I just want to get to fly the TIE Advanced. It's my favorite TIE (outside of gameplay) and I want to use it more effectively. I want to fly a 4x TIE/x1 w/ Accuracy Corrector man

does anyone know where to get it or the Raider expansion cheaper, other than ebay? Thx

>>54409633
Plano tackle boxes

>>54410253
Fuck man, I've been trying to figure out the same thing. I'm about to pull the trigger and buy TIE/x1 and ATC off eBay

>>54410253
>>54410413
I'm in the opposite boat- I want a raider and the TIE pilots that come with it.

If you guys/anyone else want to split a raider, i'd be down for that. Email me at [email protected]

Alternatively, make some custom/proxy cards. My palp is a high-res image of the card sleeved with a mercenary co-pilot card.

>>54410674
If I had some expendable money I would definitely split a raider with you anon. Sometimes being in graduate school sucks ass

>>54410674
Looking at what's in the box-

Palp, Raider, Advanced, 4 copies of Title/ATC

A raider is $75 online, so for the title+ATC, i would think $7 per pair would be fair.

>>54410674
>>54410912
Is this the same poster?

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I was going to say that Kylo's TIE silencer looks like the bastard child of an Avenger and a Phantom, but thinking over it again, it's the bastard child of an avenger and the Falcon.

Pure pottery.

>>54411644

I'm wondering what the fuck VN stands for.

Also, interesting to note, it's classed as a Superiority Frame, like the Defender, not an Interceptor frame.

>>54411869
Probably meant to be TIE Vindicator at some point.

>>54412198
Makes sense considering the toys seemingly spoiled something months ago with that ship on a display stand with the Rebel/Resistance symbol on it next to other TIE's with the First Order symbol on them (meaning it likely wasn't a mistake).

>>54411869
Visual Novel

Kylo's a closet weeaboo

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>>54411644

time to fap.

I've been pondering a SWD6 campaign. Not just any SWD6 campaign, but the most mundane Star Wars game ever played.
The plot is simple, you're a resident of Mos Eisley, and your goal is to play the bills on time. That's it. If you're lucky, you'll have enough left over to give your Treadwell the oil bath it so sorely needs.
Some may call this boring, I call it comfy.

>>54413120
Make it basically space Trailer Park Boys

>>54413120
>Be moisture farmer. Not much, just a small plot that I call home.
>Monday. Vaporator No 1 breaks down, spend all day trying to fix it. Sandstorm overnight. Fuck.
>Tuesday. Go back to Vaporator 1, see a Tusken on a Bantha over the north ridge. Nope. Nopenopenope. Work on keeping Vaporator 2 running.
>Wednesday. Go into Tosche Station to pick up parts. Get screwed on a deal by a Gran salesman, I just know it. Come back, see a Jawa sprinting away from Vaporator 2. Treadwell says he didn't see anything. Blind asshole.
>Thursday. Fix Vaporator 1, try to figure out what got stolen from Vaporator 2. It was a new set of power couplings. Fuck.
>Friday. Rigged together some replacement couplings for Vaporator 2. Spent the evening getting drunk in Mos Eisley, started talking to a pretty girl. Ackmena threw me out at curfew.
>Saturday. Wake up hungover to the sound of Treadwell bumping into a wall over and over and over. Didn't even get the girl's number.

Anyone see this yet?

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/7/19/new-fighter-regulations/

>>54413409

It's not really a huge deal, just looks like they changed some words or fixed some spelling.

>>54413347
See, the more you elaborate on it like that, the comfier it feels.

>>54411446
yeah, both are me, is that too much?

>>54411644
Sienar Jaemus? Who the fuck is Jaemus and when did he take over from Sienar?

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>>54413120
>>54413347

>>54414637
Jaemus is a planet in the outer rim. In Legends it was one of the largest Pentastar and later Remnant shipyards. It's got facilities for local bulk freighter manufacturers as well as Sienar and Kuat.

In canon it seems to be where Sienar and Kuat build ships away from the eyes of the New Republic so they can sell to the First Order.

>>54413120
This is the best premise for a Star Wars game I've heard of in years.

>>54414693
Fund it.

>>54411644
>>54412927
3/3/3/3, maybe 3/3/4/3 since this thing is huge- it's around the size of a B-wing.

I so want this thing to be good- The question is "can you run a list comprised of three of these?"

>>54415780

I don't know about 3 shields, but given the scale, I'll eat a sock if it's not 4 Hull like the Striker.

Missile Tech for sure. The action bar is going to be the REAL interesting thing, it says it has missiles, so Focus+Target Lock for sure, that gives it a very complex action bar for those last two slots to really hit that Interceptor archetype. Green Turns.

On the other hand, people want it to Cloak and I think that's a pipe dream AND only fucks up the action bar more.

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How much of the Imperial base on Scarif do you think survived the Death Star's blast?

>>54415939
None of it.

>>54415939
I doubt any of it.

>>54415939
Little to none. While the Death Star's attack on Scarif was distant enough to hit the water and not the shore, the attack on Jedha showed that it destroyed a not-insignificant amount of the planet's surface, causing huge chunks weighing thousands if not millions of tons to fly into the air.

Given that the ground around the Scarif base was engulfed by the destructive wave of the blast (the light that enveloped Jyn and Cassian just after they embraced), there should be basically no recoverable intelligence from the tower, and likely most of the base surrounding it was, if not leveled, damaged to the point it would be cheaper to level it and build anew than to repair.

>>54415848
>I don't know about 3 shields, but given the scale, I'll eat a sock if it's not 4 Hull like the Striker.

Inb4 3/3/3/5, being a 3 agility B-wing.

Missile and Tech (and EPT's) are going to be a given, but the question is

- Pilots
- Does it get a System slot or similar? Double tech?
- Title to give it a 5th action, or does it have 5 native to the bar?
- Does it have a title along the lines of TIE/SF that is effectively extra rules text?

My guess is 3/3/4/3, title that gives it a 5th action on it's bar (Focus, Evade, TL, Barrel Roll, Boost) and some sort of extra rules text, missile+tech.

Probably pilots will be Test Pilot(PS 2), Praetorian Guard/Knight of Ren(PS 6, EPT), Rando from the movie (PS 5-7, who gives a fuck) Kylo (PS 9, EPT, New ability)

$20 medium-ship expansion, akin to Starviper and the heavy bombers.

Really, I want them to announce this shit at Gencon, since it got officially announced.

>>54415025
I'm glad you think so, because I have no idea how to run SWD6, considering I've never found a group as a player in the ten or so years I've looked.

>>54416645

I wondering if we might get some shit out of SDCC since FFG's twitter seems to be pushing it pretty regularly.

I think it's too soon for them to push up Kylo to a PS9, even if he's actually really good in the Silencer. There's 3 unique names in each faction which have it right now, that puts some pressure on the other two factions (which nobody will like because HURR DURR SCUM AND REBELS). I expect a one point jump to 7 so he can VI to 9 or maybe a jump to 8 and then with VI he's actually a 10.

>>54416692
Ehhh, could do an EotE with the players being a pod racer put crew ?

I skipped d6 but liked saga and fog a lot.

>>54416833
The current rumor mill is that he kills Poe in a space battle so I would guess that he's going up to PS 9, saying that his PS is 6 in the shuttle because it's a motherfucking shuttle.

>>54414626
I'm not >>54411446 but I'd be willing to pay you $7 for the title+ATC

>>54417139
Email me, if we can get people that want all of the raider, i'll buy one.

>>54416248
Jedha was a moon though, and likely a lot smaller than Scarif. The base is probably still gone, but much more of the planet would be ok than on Jedha.

>>54417054
God I hope so, Poe is worst character

>>54416692
It wouldn't be impossible to do that with EotE.

>>54416991
You'd probably want to mess with the skill list a little bit to make the game more pod-racer specific, and be really careful with specialties but I think it would be able to. SWD6 might do it better though.

>>54416645
I would say for balance it would lose the evade action but it might have a title like the x7 or the v1 that can grant it an evade token.
It'll probably have a tech slot and maybe a SU slot, like the TIE/sf.
If it has a cloak action it'll have even less shields, like 3 hull/2 shield

>>54415939
>How much of the Imperial base on Scarif do you think survived the Death Star's blast?
Nothing, In fact I'd like to think they named the resulting body of water formed by the crater "the Tarkin Sea".

>>54424023
It's effectively going to have 5 actions availible either way. Either tie one to another (v1) or add it to the bar.

The question is the health spread- 3 attack and 3 agility are given minimums. (If 4 attack I will shit myself)

The issue is that it is fucking enormous- the B-wing is a little smaller than this thing. It is going to be 6 health minimum-the question is how much and what spread.

>>54425479
Looking it up, this thing is over 2.5 inches long, or 6.5 cm. It's going to tower over its base.

>>54425828

K-Wings, ARCs and Havocs indicate this is not a problem.

I'd personally go 4/2 split - Shield still aren't imperative to Imperials, but given it's over-all length and beefier hull it should have more mass. Of course, if it's even better than the TIE/SF it could amaze us with 4/3. Plasma torps are still a thing though, you don't necessarily want the weight in favor of shields.

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>have coupon for Barnes and Noble
>go to Barnes and Noble in Alabama for TIE Aggressor
>hasn't gotten the new wave yet
>mfw

I'm not blaming the staff of the store; they all seem like nice people who are just doing their job. But acquisitions for Star Wars stuff in general is terrible in this state. We're usually a wave behind in figures and X-Wing unless you go to an independent, smaller hobby store (there's not a whole lot of them that sell X-Wing either) I might just bite and go to the closest one and see if they have it.

>>54426880
What city are you from?

>>54426916
why do you ask, if I may ask?

I was at the B&N in Dothan

>>54426880
It's no better here in MN. Collecting Black Series and Marvel Legends stuff is a fucking nightmare of endless disappointment and scalper induced suffering. X-Wing stock is rarely updated anywhere, the few places that ever have it mostly just have older stuff from the first couple waves. Star Wars Destiny boosters are next to impossible to find except at Games by James sometimes.

Poe Dameron wears a jacket similar to Han Solo on the Vanity Fair cover

Han Solo dies in TFA

We only see Poe in one scene in the trailers

>>54429507
See
>>54417054

>>54427213
To be fair, Destiny is sold out almost everywhere

>>54429730
True, my local mom and pop game shop has never been able to get any at all because FFG can't keep up with demand to sell them any stock.

>>54427089
Just curious, I used to live in Birmingham and Auburn

In the old EU imperial civil war, what percentage of do you figure became outright pirates and/or mercenaries as opposed to warlords?

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>>54346935

I'm currently working on an Imperial campaign set aboard an Outer Rim space station. The PCs would be the station's commanding officers, tasked with managing different departments (security, engineering, logistics, etc.)

With that in mind, what should the party's starting assets be in terms of personnel, ships, etc.? I've settled on an XQ platform (pic related) as the basis for the station, but I can't find any crew totals or the like.

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>>54433969
One clown and nothing else. The clown is a Rebel Alliance spy. Honk.

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Got a store event coming up tomorrow. Here's 2 lists for review. The first I what I think I'm running, the second is just an idea. I don't think it will work well because of PS7 but oh well.

>Kylo ren
-swarm leader, General Hux, Fire control system
>Delta Sq. Pilot
-x/7 title
>Delta Sq. Pilot
-x/7 title

And

>whisper
-FCS, agent kallus, ACD, Swarm Leader
>delta
-x7
>delta
-x7

Another 4 ship idea I had was

>tomax bren
-shuttle, agent kallus, tactician, lwf, crackshot
>Omega Leader
-Juke, comms
>pure sabacc
-lwf, ailerons, VI
>Alpha sq. Interceptor

>>54415939
I think it speaks to the quality of Imperial Engineering that they pulled off a perfect headshot with a mood sized gun from orbit.

>>54434396

I guess the guys who teach how to aim in the Navy aren't the same as the guys who teach in Stormtrooper class?

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>>54370081

>>54434298
Here are my suggestions-

For the First list, you want to swap Hux for Intel Agent, Pattern Analyzer, and the Title- Hux eats action efficiency that you do not have on your already action-starved shuttle, and his condition is best on TIEs that have shit attack- Deltas and Swarm Leader Kylo are not those things.

For the Swarm Leader Whisper, that's a death sentence- PS 7, 8, and 9 is everywhere. Miranda can kill you in 2 rounds with her TLT.
Something like 2 Deltas and a VI+Rebel Captive whisper would work though

I don't understand the Kallus and the Tactician on Tomax- either keep him cheap, or go full missile. Also, Alphas are bad- Try a Striker if you want the aggressive blocker.

Is there really going to be a Imperial Squadron 1 re release? I have a site with it listed for July, with a preorder available, what's the likliehood?

>>54435217
FFG says the product is on the boat, so I would take it as fact.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/upcoming/

You can check it yourself if you don't believe me.

>>54435268
Oh, nice. Thanks

>>54433293
It'd probably be mostly the guys who captain smaller ships, like the Gozanti class and similar. A few of the ISD captains might have, but overall it's probably a pretty small percentage going pirate and very few if any going straight mercenary.