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Generally speaking, how primitive should the barbarians

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Generally speaking, how primitive should the barbarians in fantasy settings be?
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>>54328844
They should look like this.
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>>54328844

Semi-nomadic peoples in the early iron age, with access to the comparatively high-grade scrap from more advanced civilizations.
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>>54328844
I prefer the frosty nordic sort of barbarians
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>>54328844
Depends on the setting.
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>>54328844
In high fantasy they're barbarian by choice and just dont wear clothes or some shit.

In low fantasy they're backwards because they rely on things that other cultures have left behind: savagery and brutality. They dont build siege equipment because they can rely on brutal rituals do their dark gods. They dont craft great weapons or works of art because they can just take them from those who are weaker. They dont farm because they can just hunt. They dont overpopulate because that would just be more upstart sons to fight.
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>>54328900
that's pretty fucking disgusting my guy
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>>54328942
no you

I enjoy fucking washboards thank you very much
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>>54328958
i got nothing against washboard abs but that girl is built very strangely. her arms and weirdly thin.
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>>54328958
She has too long skeleton arms though
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Can be as primitive or advanced as you want. There's only one thing they need

BERSERKER
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
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>>54329225

> implying you aren't really jelly of the skelly
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>http://conan.wikia.com/wiki/Cimmerians
"[Cimmerians] appear to be partly or completely tribal hunter-woodland gatherers, with no central government and exist in tribes.[1] They know of the craft of iron-working (Conan's father was a blacksmith), but they dress in skins and pelts, and do their own weaving in a rough, practical style. Cimmerians have little use for philosophy, science, or art, but seem to value entertainment, especially in the form of storytelling. Conan himself remarks: "I saw myself in a pantherskin loin-clout, throwing my spear at the mountain beasts."[2]

The Cimmerians are a people forged by the very harsh conditions of their land. The Cimmerians are notable among other civilizations as being an incredibly somber people. Howard often makes reference to the Cimmerian people's hardiness and martial prowess, as well as to their many other impressive skills. They can climb seemingly unscalable cliffs, track humans and animals with ease, and stalk their prey without making a sound. The apparent primitiveness of the Cimmerians and their sense of justice is often juxtaposed with the corruption of the "civilized" races in Hyboria.

Cimmerian culture does not value materialism for avarice's sake. Although warriors such as Conan are encouraged to gather wealth and glory to themselves, Cimmerians value courage, honor, respect, and pride more than treasure. It is said that none starve in Cimmeria unless all starve, for any family would care for any who need it."
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>>54328844
Rape should be their greeting, and anal rape should be their farewell.
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>>54328844

I like to emphasize my barbarian society's inherently crude and savage nature, like anon mentioned here, >>54328937
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Super futuristic. A time portal opened up, guns and cars fell out, and they exude a weird temporal field that drives people violently mad so the whole barbarian horde just zips around in supped up V8s shooting fucking everything.
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Barbarian tribes should be groups of people that have not been absorbed into larger cultures or civilizations for whatever reason. A few of these could be largely peaceful and survive due to isolation, or even entire kingdoms in relatively isolated areas that no one has messed much with, but most of the prominent ones should be warrior societies that can resist any incursion from outside forces and prompt people to go 'maybe we should leave these guys alone.'

Generally I prefer the bronze or iron age flavor, especially depending on how powerful I want them to be (kingdom vs. tribe, etc). And you can basically just base them off of real-world cultures after you figure that out, unless you want them to be more uniquely fantastical.
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In RPG terms, barbarian should encompass everything from nude cavemen to early Nords.

So anything from flint tools to metalworking petty kingdoms.
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>>54328844
Depends on the setting.
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>>54330925
Thanks for the non-answer friend.
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Scotish.
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>>54328844
Depends on the setting's Greece. That is, it doesn't matter the absolute primitiveness as long as they seem to be less advanced or less sophisticated than the setting's reference point for what civilization is. In a science-fantasy setting where civilization is plasma-casters and crystal towers, the barbarians can absolutely have machine guns.
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>>54328844
Only as primitive as needed to give them an alternative point of view on mainstream organized society while still being able to function and figure out how things work within it and still easily survive without it.

A modern day human dropped into your average SciFi setting would count as a barbarian.
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>>54328900
Spooky skeleton
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>>54331405

This. Just look at Klingons in Star Trek compared to Romulans and the Federation. They have a vast interstellar empire, energy weapons and faster than light travel, but they're absolutely Barbarians in comparison to their two rivals. They stay on equal terms with them despite a technological gap through fighting prowess, numbers, and tactics that are difficult for their peers to cope with (melee weapons, space viking raids, valuing small nimble raiders, etc)
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>>54328844
depends on your narrative
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>>54328844
>primitive should the barbarians in fantasy settings be?
The most savage creatures in Dark sun have crazy biological technology.

So... basically "Whatever" level you want.
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>>54328844
They should be exactly this primitive OP
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>>54328844
More than the "civilized" and prone to violence but not stupid.

Less grand infrastructure, more migrations that ocasionally destroy bug cities.

Less written material, more care to oral history taught by druids.

Smaller ships that can't go against galleons but can cross oceans and appear anywhere easily.
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>>54328900
Neither of these women are conventionally attractive.

The first one has man-thighs and the second has washboard abs.

If you're attracted to either of them I would suspect that you have latent homosexual tendencies.
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>>54334239
>4chan
>where liking traps makes you straight
>and liking muscle-girls makes you gay
Shine on you crazy diamond.
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>>54334276
Both of those things are gay.
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>>54328900
Too thin arms and legs, like the abs though
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>>54334307
>Liking /fit/ women makes you gay
Kk senpai.
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>>54334239
If you thing both of those girls aren't conventionally attractive, you might be the homosexual.
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>>54328918
Fuck off. When will this meme end?
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>>54334329
liking masculine traits (muscles) means you're probably gay or at least bi.

>>54334349
lol okay fag
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>>54334464
>Muscles
>Strictly Masculine
Okay man, whatever you say.
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>>54334493
Who said it was strictly masculine?

Tits aren't strictly feminine either.

Muscles on a woman are like tits on a guy.
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>>54334534
>Tits aren't strictly feminine either.
Keep digging gayboi
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>>54334534
>Tits aren't strictly feminine either.
I wanted to object but I recall /fit/izen with gyno so bad mods banned him for posting the picture of it, so maybe you are onto something...
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>>54334534
You are either american or black, most likely both.
With your unhealthy fat fetish, big buts and tits.
The rest of the world find healthy individuals attractive.
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>>54334562
Look man, it's okay to be gay. It's 2017. Just accept it and stop hiding it. We all know you just want to fuck a man in the ass. Come out of the closet bro. Nobody will judge you here.

You don't need to keep fapping to musclegirls to convince people (and yourself) that you're straight.
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>>54328900
She does too many crunches, now enough lifts
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>>54334357

>"Which train should I get on?"
>That depends, where are you trying to go?
>"Fucking meme answer!"
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>>54334598
>Muscle girls are totally gay guys.
>Also, tits aren't strictly feminine either, it's 2017, anyone can get plastic surgery.
LMAOing at your life.
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>>54334598
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>>54334596
I don't have a fat fetish. Fat chicks are about as unattractive as muscular chicks.

I'm not mentally ill like you freaks. I'm a normal healthy heterosexual male and I like thin, conventionally attractive girls without rolls of fat or bulging muscles. Obviously, on 4chan that makes me an anomally.
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>>54334617
>what is gyno
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>>54334674
I don't know your weird LGBTBBQ terminology faggot.
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>>54334748
Gynocomastia aka "man boobs"

Google it faggot.
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>>54334792
Why would I google man titties faggot? Take your weird fetish shit somewhere else.
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>>54334655
Straight people generally don't feel the need to let others know how straight they are.

Just saying...
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>>54334809
>being this assblasted about getting outed as a queer
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>>54334655
I've seen many things on 4chan, from people jacking off to people being mutilated to neo-nazi homosexual furries calling for a race war against the communistic cis-gendered scalies. However, you sir are the biggest faggot on this site. Yes, you're a bigger faggot then all the cuckold threads on /gif/ combined, a bigger faggot then moot and nipboss, a faggot so impressive in it's stature that even OP's faggotry is nothing compared to you. You're not an anomaly on 4chan, you're a fucking normie. Go back to whatever suburban house you come from and go back to posting on Reddit and Facebook.
>>54334792
>Man boobs
>posts picture of a fat piece of shit
Convincing argument. Now my rebuttal. Lose some fucking weight, or learn how to make knots properly.
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>>54334792
I WANT TO BITE THAT GUT AND THOSE BOOBS!!! I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE HIS BODY SHAPE HMU 4 FUN
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>>54334824
I mean when you're surrounded by queers and other mentally ill degenerates it's important to let them know where you stand.
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>>54334598
what if the reason I like musclegirls is because of the discipline and dedication that her level of fitness indicates?
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>>54334843
>he thinks losing weight will get rid of his manboobs

anon...
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>>54334824
yep, like most closet cases overuse the term gay as something thats not good. The need to attribute everything negative to gay in order to convince others the person isnt gay.

teeheehee closet case faggots
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>>54334865
So why aren't you attracted to musclemen? Do they not also demonstrate discipline and dedication?
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>>54334867
It did with me. I was fucking 300 pounds and man tits, and now I'm 190 pounds and no man tits. Still a bit flabby though, and have stretch marks because I was fatass, but I've learned my lesson.
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>>54334674

In nature, muscled females are more attractive than ordinary females because they're more fit to survive and will likely bare strong children. The same can be said for human women. This is basic biology anon.

>>54334748

It's a weird-ass condition were men grow tits, not man-boobs, but actual tits. It's usually a side effect of modern medicine or steroid abuse, but rarely someone's genetics will fuck them over.
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>>54334850
Why are you hanging around "queers and mentally ill degenerates" in the first place?
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>>54334882
because I like women?
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>>54334835
>Looks up man titties
>Calling others gay
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>>54334867
actually it depends, gyno and moobage are the same but they're caused by two different things.

Gyno is from tissue growing in the breast region from stuff like puberty, steroid abuse whereas moobage is fat

The way to tell is to squeeze your moobs and if you feel a hard lump its gyno but if its soft its just fat
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>>54334898
>In nature, muscled females are more attractive than ordinary females because they're more fit to survive and will likely bare strong children. The same can be said for human women. This is basic biology anon.

According to professor shit-for-brains here, these are the most attractive girls in the world.

Faggot.
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>>54334867
t. lazy fat piece of shit.

Assuming you don't go through dramatic weight loss, like from plastic surgery, you generally won't worry about skin flaps like Star Jones after dropping a few dozen pounds of excess weight.
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>>54331315
>it's not an answer because I don't like it
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>>54334905
I only come here to shitpost m8.

>>54334933
>>54334884
Don't you still have loose skin after losing weight? I saw this dude on /fit/ who lost like 150 lbs and had crazy loose skin.
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>>54334935
If I can accept that people get turned on by dogs, feet, shit (as in, literally feces), and floor tiles, I can accept that someone out there finds these ladies attractive.

Of course, there's a difference between professional body builders and people who build muscle for practical reasons.
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>>54334935
me on the right :)
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>>54334935

Those are milfs long past their prime, and they are clearly infertile. Hence, they are not attractive. Try a bit harder next time.
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>>54334978
>I only come here to shitpost m8.
Then you already gobble cocks and are a gayboi in denial.
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>>54334983
Yeah I can accept that people are attracted to all that shit, I'm just pointing out that they're mentally ill.
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>>54334974

> it's not an answer because it doesn't add anything to the discussion
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>>54334978
Yeah if you are like fat as fuck boogie tier then lose a shitload of weight but I think if you gradually lose weight at a steady pace your body adjusts to it. Also stretch marks
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>>54334947
I'm wondering, is going from 300 pounds to 190 in a span of five to six years dramatic? Not likely, but I still feel I should of done better. However, I did get down to 160 and I didn't look very healthy. Too skinny for a 6'1 male that's a poultry farmer
>>54334978
I do have some lose skin, but since I was 300 pounds as a teenager (17,18) and I'm now 25 at 190 pounds, my skin isn't loose. If I didn't lose my weight till I was older, then yeah I would have crazy ass loose skin.
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>>54335010
You're posting pictures of man-titties and somehow accuse others of being mentally ill?

Okay
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>>54334464
>lol okay fag
I fuck chicks and dudes. And you're honestly retarded. Girls can be fit and attractive.

It's honestly pretty much impossible for a girl to be to muscular outside of roids. And by that point they've got more test in their bodies then most dudes so calling them women is a bit of a misnomer.

>>54334655
>I'm a normal healthy heterosexual male
Kek. I've fucked guys like you. I'm sure you'll get over it in a few years.
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>>54328844
That photo is actually racist.
Shes clearly a negroid mixed with something else.
But they paint her face red and put feathers here and there and think she's similar to a native south american because of her light brown skin.
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>>54335010

> he spends his Saturday anonymously shitposting about musclegirls and what is and what isn't faggotry on a Croatian Sky-Diving Circle with almost a million social rejects, /pol/tards, and neckbeards across the globe, yet he has the audacity to accuse others of mental illness
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>>54335047
>I'm wondering, is going from 300 pounds to 190 in a span of five to six years dramatic?
Oh god no, that's actually fairly reasonable. I'm talking about someone going under for liposuction and going from 300 to 167 in less than a day.
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>>54334655
What the fuck is wrong with her face? Also, her body is average, 5/10
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>>54335057
>still replying
>still mad

>>54335060
>I fuck chicks and dudes
So you're bi then. Glad you finally admitted your mental illness.

Thing is, if you're straight (i.e. not attracted to men) you won't find muscular girls attractive.
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>>54328844
Science-hating, religious fundamentalist headhunters who can't understand their own cult any longer because language drift made its rituals and records unintelligible to them is as primitive as I go at max. Anything more primitive would be just silly.
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>>54335075
>he spends his saturday replying and getting more and more mad

>>54335118
>kate upton is a 5/10

Okay Mr Neckbeard Fedora-san
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>>54335119
It's okay bb. I'll let you suck my dick.
Nobody has to know.

You can still shout about how straight you are after.
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>>54335066

But anon, only wh*tes can be racist
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>>54335139
She's the most average looking woman I have ever seen, hence 5/10. And her face is like a prepubescent boys, not attractive at all.

So 5/10, would ignore.
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>>54335146
This is why people hate you.
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Vikings or mongols.
Cavemen/tribesmen are fucking boring.
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>>54335171
>international supermodel and actress and sports illustrated swimsuit model
>5/10

Fag.
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>>54335139

> he implies I'm infuriated by his ignorance, and that I've got better things I could be doing than arguing with complete strangers on a global digititalized information depository

You're right about one thing.
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>>54328844
Generally speaking that's way too setting related to generalize.
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>>54335216
>still replying
>still mad
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>>54335206
>implying being a model means anything

All you need are rich relatives and the
willingness to suck a cock. Beauty has nothing to do with it. Also, Photoshop you retard.
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>>54335119
>Posts on 4chan
>Calling others mentally ill
Kk senpai, you can pretend that everyone else is mad if you want.
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>>54335174

My setting has !Not!Vikings, !Not!Mongols, !Not!Aztecs, !Not!Zulu, !Not!Xhosa, and !Not!Aborigines.
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>>54335247
lol sure thing fag
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>>54335237

> implying I'm angry about an idiot on the internet instead of my level 19 barbarian that was slain moments ago on the cusp of retrieving the Amulet of Yendor
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>>54335275
So you have no actual counter arguement. Glad we can end this pointless banter.
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>>54335171

Do you happen to live in Northern Europe, by chance?
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>>54335295
Why would I bother arguing about female attractiveness with a queer?
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>>54334307
>Musclegirls are gay
>Liking women is gay
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>>54335075
>Someone who's mentally ill can't identify mental illness in others
That guy is a dumbass, but so are you.
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>>54335326
>it's okay if she has muscles, body hair, a beard and even a penis as long as she's a "woman"
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>>54335338

I wouldn't think of denying it.
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>>54334935
Well, the examples on your pic are of unnaturally developed and very exaggerated muscles.

You don't need to be a musclefag to think this looks hot.
And this coming for a guy who likes chubby girls.
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>>54335322
I dunno genius, why have you been arguing with actual queers for this entire thread? What's your reason?
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>>54334609
more like
>what's your favorite X
>UH DEPENDS I CANT ANSWER THINGS THATS HARD
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>>54335376
What the fuck man?

The rest of her is alright but her stomach looks like a dude's. GTFO with that faggot shit.
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>>54335314
>living in cuckistan
No, we left before the Islamic invasion a few generations ago.
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>>54335385
For shits and giggles. Like I said I only come here to shitpost.

Faggot.
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>>54335173
Shhh.
Just accept it.
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>>54335139
>Is attracted to Kate Upton
Anon wanting to fuck the retarded isn't normal
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>>54335407
Nah, the issue here is you being an insecure little bitch.
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>>54335429
>'twas merely a jest.
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>>54334935
>Implying a functional mentally healthy man wouldn't bust a load in those asses
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>>54335390
Then why don't you phrase the thread as "What is your favorite X?" and not "What should X be like in every setting?" People are going to answer the question you asked, not the question you implied.
>>54328868
This. Barbarian is a political term, not a style of dress.
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>>54335355
Imagine being so gay whenever you see a girl you can only think about what makes her similar to men
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>>54335434
You know what awaits you right faggot?

>>54335438
Kate Upton is a pretty good gay test. If you're not attracted to her then you're a queer. Simple as that.
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>>54335066
(you)
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>>54335083
>Oh god no, that's actually fairly reasonable.
Happy to hear. I have a friend who did one of those stomach things where they limit the amount of the food that can go into the stomach and while she's happy about her weight lose, the fucking lose skin is ridiculous. Honestly, I would still be a fucking fatass if I never left the city. However, once I went rural and start having livestock and a big ass garden, and not having a vehicle so I had to walk all over the place, I started losing the weight. So happy I left the city.
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>>54335445
How does being straight make me insecure?

>>54335471
Imagine being so repressed that you go after girls that look like men to convince people that you're not a queer.
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>>54335429
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>>54334464
>>54334464

look at these insecure lowtest faggots in denial
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>>54335503
>Fucking women is gay because I say so
>Doesn't matter if she isn't a man, that doesn't count
Truly, you are a fucking riot.
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>>54335118
Her face and body have so much photoshop, you can barely tell she's human.
The guy chose a terrible pic of an attractive woman to front his hurr models nonsense.
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>>54334898
>In nature, muscled females are more attractive than ordinary females because they're more fit to survive and will likely bare strong children

That's just plain wrong though. You'd want women with enough adipose fat to cover their stomach muscles and wide hips with some meat on them, Food security is a very real issue.Women also aren't hunters, so strenuous activity that really builds muscle is not expected of them
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>>54334865
VIRGIN ALERT
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>>54328844

I prefer to look at it as a class, barbarians can come from any society, they are just the most ferocious, instinct driven fighters that rarely stop to think of their actions. Even the most advanced society has people who just want to wreck shit
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>>54335521
Come on anon. Let's not pretend that you actually fuck women.
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>>54335487
The problem with stomach stapling is that while you're lessening your stomach's capacity to retain food, you're not actually developing better eating habits to take advantage of it.

So generally what happens is that people continue to eat garbage and either they lose the weight too fast, they end up balooning back to their original weight again, or they end up killing themselves because the staplings burst.
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>>54335355
There's obviously a limit, anon, but a girl who is toned and fit can be just as hot as a skinny girl or a girl who is curvy.
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>>54335482
Only gay people trying to look like they're strait are attracted to Kate Upton. She has the surface elements, huge tits, tan skin, blond hair etc. But you look past that and you see she's so fucking idiotic that no non-virgin would ever want to tap that
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>>54335541
I don't see why not considering how much you're pretending to be straight.
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>>54335537

Oh shit my bad I thought see were still talking about ops question but I see thus thread has already dissolved into shitposting about neckbeard's preferable imaginary female
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>>54335561
0/10

>>54335565
Dude even if I was gay, you still wouldn't be getting any pussy. Let's be honest here.
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>>54335553
It was one of the reasons why I didn't like her doing it, but she's happy about it so I'm happy she's happy. I will admit though, I was a little pissed that I work and work to get my fatass back to be what would be considered normal weight, and then she get's her stomach stapled and BAM she's losing weight. I know I did what was right for me and my body, but I'm still a bit salty (and this is years ago, mind you) that she took the fucking easy way out.
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>>54335524
Anyone have a picture of how she actually looks day to day? I'm guessing stretch mark, cottage cheese dimples, acne, bags under her eyes, stained teeth, and god knows what other flaws.
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>>54335587
Just because you got fucked up the ass doesn't mean that you actually lost your virginity. Also
>even if I was gay
>implying
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>>54329611
this is how I have always wanted to see barbarians. The old original barbarian published in Dragon magazine got it right I think.
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>>54335587
>Hurr Durr I don't like girls who aren't fat sacks of crap
>If they're toned, or have any muscle definition, they've gotta be men!
Nice strawmanning. Your argument boils down to "I don't like this thing!", while people point out how asinine you're being.
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>>54335607
>rage of the impotent virgin
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Discussion about level of barbarians technology is now about being gay if you do or do not like Kate Upton

I hates this place sometimes
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>>54335627
>dude i'm not gay
>i'm just attracted to muscles and body hair and dicks and getting fucked in the ass how is that gay?
>i'm not gay i swear!!!
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>>54335594
Don't feel jealous anon, the important thing to any weight loss regimen is keeping the weight off, not just losing it.

I anything, be proactive and help her to get into a healthier lifestyle so that her chances of gaining the weight back diminishes.
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>>54335630
>rage of the closet faggot
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>>54335637
Fags ruin everything anon, you know this.
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>>54335637
I legitimately thought I was on /v/ for a moment what with all the closet fags roaming around ITT.

Remember when OP would make a troll thread about how muscle girls are gay and /tg/ would turn it into a legitimate discussion on barbarian technology? I miss those days.
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>>54335678
So did we start off on the wrong foot by posting the topic we wanted discussed in the OP instead of something vaguely related to it?
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>>54335645
Here's another reply. Please, try harder next time. Also, show us where anybody said "Body Hair", or "Dicks". But you can't, can you? All you're going to do is hilariously miss the point with failed logic.
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>>54335482
>You know what awaits you right faggot?
All the pussy and boipussy I can handle.
There's no reason to deny it any longer.
I'll make you feel good bb.
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>>54335698
Probably. Hell, I came here to talk about Barbarians and I got talking about my weight. Sorry guys.
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>>54335698
The problem was that OP posted a picture that triggered a closeted faggot during a period where /tg/ is incapable of biting onto the most obvious bait possible.
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>>54334464
If muscles are masculine why don't you have any, lard ass?
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>>54335744
You weren't disruptive though.
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>>54334935
>autistic screeching
Those women are on steroids, meaning they're not at the natural peak for humans, but beyond it. That means you've mistaken the extreme for the normal, a common mistake for Amerifats.
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>>54335930
Disgusting.

If that was attractive then when don't actresses, singers, pornstars and models look like that?

Marketing companies spend billions trying to determine what people consider attractive and the general consensus seems to be that slim and toned girls are the most attractive.

Look at that bitch's shoulders! Holy fuck she could probably beat up half the people in this thread.
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>>54328844
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>>54335066
>Negroid mixed with something else.
>Implying black people in south america haven't interbred with native south Americans.

No Anon, (you) are the racist.
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glad to see /tg/ still is a modless shithole
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>>54335930
>>54336088
Girl in that pic is running at least var, but probably more judging by her delts.
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>>54336205
Even blacks treated natives as subhumans. And yes, they did interbred a lot, but that's not her case.
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Wait..At least we can all agree that this is what a barbarian body should look like right?
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>ITT one guy who doesn't like fit women tries to convince literally everyone else that it is gay to like fit women.
>gay to like fit women
>gay to like women

It appears you have the same mindset as the same mentally distorted homosexual in denial that thinks that traps aren't gay because they're so feminine.

That should tell you how completely wrong you are.
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>>54336252
How do you know? Do you have her 23 and me?
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fire bad
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>>54335407
ok, so as an actual queer the girl that im flirting with right now has abs like that and its hot as hell. I'm not going to lie, her shirt road up a bit on wednesday and I was instantly like "Throw me against a wall and take me now you beautiful women." All im saying is that fit people can be hot.
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>>54336314
Here's a quick guide:

>>54336270
>hot
>>54335930
>gross
>>54334655
overrated
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>>54334850
It really not important. I just makes it sound as if you need to convince yourself. Which you do.
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>>54336088
>If that was attractive then when don't actresses, singers, pornstars and models look like that?

Because constant exercise and muscle building is harder than just not eating, so people trying to advertise their twiggy women to the world scream "Yes, please believe us! Skeleton women are attractive, fit ones are horrible!"

And some faggots actually believe it.
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>>54334978
>I only come here to shitpost m8.
Well, at least we know why you said you think Kate Upton is attractive.

Good on you for admitting it, mate.
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i came for the barbarians

then i came for the muscle girls.

then i came for kate upton and whatever else you guys feel like posting.

my living room is covered in jizz.
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>>54336250
Given her bodyfat percentage, probably. But she's a less extreme example. Kinda the point.
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>>54336088
>woman
>beating up men

That's the most outlandish thing said in the entire thread.
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Did the shitposter leave?
Can we talk about barbarians now?
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>>54337342
Yes! shitposters out! Lets talk mad rage and badass axes!

Ok, Greatsword vs great axe? OR two axes? I like two axes then great sword then great axe. tis the best.
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>>54336314
>Barbarian is a social stereotype
I gotta agree. Bezerker would make a better class, and could cover any fighter that uses rage for bonuses in combat.
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>>54337404
>Bezerker
Out, you catamite.

Begone, thee who is so poorly learned that he does not know how to spell "berserker"
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>>54337488
>Not spelling it bearzerker like the gods intended
What a barbarian.
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>>54328844
You remember how your grandfather, if you knew him, might have told stories about how utterly shit the world was when he was a kid?

Well imagine that being far, far worse. Imagine every year being a battle against starvation itself, fighting bears and wolves in the woods for a kill. Almost everyone you know as a kid dies from disease, starvation, or pointless violence.

Barbarians are just the assholes wrecking your civilization. Savages are the ones you should worry about. The ones that respect no absolutes, that have only a rough animalistic pragmatism that seeks victory under ones own rules. They seek only to survive and thrive another day, living in harsh lands in harsh lives. They have no discipline, no honor or consistency to their character. They're simply the bastards living in the worst lands around and living like savages.

Things produced in cities are unimaginable luxuries. The clothes are soft and comfortable, the wine is safe to drink and gets you drunk. The women are soft and plush instead of worn and hard. The men are short from malnutrition and disease. It makes perfect sense for them to kill the peaceful city person and take their things.

Savages are not just primitives. Decent people are decent people regardless of tech level. But these are complete assholes that come from the hardest and most brutal and animalistic background humans can come from. They live to kill and be killed in an endless cycle of intertribal warfare. And when they've got someone big and bad enough to kick ALL the tribes into line they're coming for you.

They'll fail today, and they'll fail tomorrow. But eventually you'll be weak, and soft, and they'll break the lines of defense. They'll burn the cities, toss the books into the rivers and rape and murder everyone they can.

Then they'll destroy themselves with drink, disease, and politics in a world they're not suited for. Savages never win.
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>>54337573
or the city slickers advance technological so far ahead that they aren't a threat anymore, becoming marginalized in their own homelands.
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>>54337667
That's never entirely true. Technology tends to filter down and they're almost impossible to eradicate.

That's the important point. They're human, and survive like cockroaches. They live in places too harsh for any sort of settled life and that's the point. They have a bit of agriculture - what they can do on the mountainsides, or in the desert, or in the wild hills. Many follow migrating herds.

However the savage only becomes possible to beat with modern day tech. And even then it's like a game of whack-a-mole. Kill one and a dozen more pop up in its place. You need surveillance from the sky with detail enough that you can see every inch of every wasteland. Then you need the ability to do something with all that information and unerringly pick out every savage.

That doesn't solve the problem though, because savages aren't born. They're made. While many may grow up in the wilderness savages like Isis exist today because civilization has failed. They're savages of human design and armed with modern weapons.

The savage isn't a single enemy or group of enemies. You can defeat the Huns, or Mongols, or Isis, or the Germanics or whoever. Savages will always exist because they're humans created by the worst of lives. Mostly they're vicious, sadistic, grudge-bearing animals with human cunning added to that. The only way to really kill off all the savages - not the primitives, the savages - is to give everyone a pleasant and happy life. Give them a love of the rule of law, give them abundance in every material need, entertain them in ways no one would have believed possible. And then tie them to you forever with positive, happy spiritualist beliefs. Insanity will continue to exist, but most resistance is like butter on a hot stove next to joy and personal happiness.
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It's hysterical to me that the average 4channer considers themselves "above average intelligence." You are all so stupid it's reeling.
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>>54336909
Just because something is harder to accomplish doesn't mean it's better.

For men it's better to be fit and strong due to our traditional role as protectors.

For women, just don't be fat. That's the only requirement. And even there you've got plenty of leeway since even 200 lbs isn't considered fat in America these days.

>>54337290
It's another "neckbeard thinks he can take on ronda rousey" episode
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>>54337871
>he thinks I'm not aware that I'm retarded
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>>54337809
>You're civilized man
>Savages destroy your family and take your city
>You and a small group survive and run to the hills
>Generations later, your great grandchildren are the savages going to loot the city you came from.
I wonder how many times this has happened to humanity?
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>>54328844
source?
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>>54337809
>Give them a love of the rule of law, give them abundance in every material need, entertain them in ways no one would have believed possible
This doesn't really work. Because you don't need to have a brutal terrible life to become a savage.

You just need to think you your life is. It's not your fault, there's someone else to pin the blame on who has stuff that you know to be rightfully yours.
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Too primitive to wear clothes
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>>54330639
The 'maybe we should leave them alone' should also be due to the barbarian lands having limited resources and thus not worth the effort. This should be reflected in their society somehow: lower tech, harsher culture/culture that rewards toughness
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>>54338016
>>54338157


Not as often as you'd think, more often than anyone would be comfortable with.

The default state of man is to be torn between two drives - the need for social harmony and an animal's desires.

The default state of man is the ancient savage, living nasty brutish little lives of murder and pain. But the default state of man is ALSO to seek social harmony and a condition of good. We want peaceful, happy, ordered lives. We also want everything that could threaten us dead and all the things, and women, and everything else NOW.

So first we turned to the warriors for protection and to rob the abundance from others, but no tribe will win forever. All you get is a confederation of tribes.

Then we turned for religion for an ultimate, simple good. Carried out by flawed mostly-animalistic humans it will never be the perfect thing we dream of. It got us endless holy wars.

Then we turned to kings, who were a single simple form of authority with a divine mandate. But they too are just human, and will never give us the perfection we crave.

Then we turned to pragmatism and rationalism, and it made things abundant - but empty. The price to set up the factories and learn the science was very, very high indeed.

So we turned to democracy to make a better world. But it is only as good as its people, and all will become corrupt and eventually fail.

Finally we will turn to the machines. Our perfect god, made with our own hands. Never failing, never flawed, providing endless abundance and knowing all. But we make them. There's no reason to assume they'll be truly perfect either, and the mistakes will be monstrous.

In each era people run for the hills because we're not perfect. We'll never be perfect. And in those flaws comes suffering, and in that comes savages anew. We're all savage. That's why you'll never kill them all, or escape them. Just don't forget that we're also noble and each new system is better than the last.
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>>54336565
I live in a place where we have a lot of bugres ( that's what we call people who are half native ).

They look like blacks with slightly clearer skin, asian features and flat chubby faces. And their hair look like black iron wool.

My grandmother is half native and half black.
She was treated as trash in her home town, even by other blacks.
My grandfather was a german immigrant and his family disowned him for marrying her.

That's how I know.
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>>54338236
>Then we turned for religion for an ultimate, simple good. Carried out by flawed mostly-animalistic humans it will never be the perfect thing we dream of. It got us endless holy wars.
>Then we turned to kings, who were a single simple form of authority with a divine mandate. But they too are just human, and will never give us the perfection we crave.
I'd argue that these happened in reverse order.
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>>54338374
I would say they're a continuation of what we've had off and on since the beginning.

First there were god-emperors, then emperors and supreme priests as separate entities, then kings which were like little god-emperors. It's more an optimization of an ancient class than anything. Not quite infallible, not quite all powerful, but more powerful than just a secular lord and holy. There was a degree of separation between the era where god-emperors were most common and the era where kings became common.
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>>54329611
For being the propegator of the concept, hardly anyone ever copies Conan for their barbarians.
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>>54338742
They copy the look - muscular man with a big sword in a loincloth - rather than what Conan is actually like or even usually depicted as. It's like how so much supposedly comes back to Lord of the Rings, but only in the loosest of ways.
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What is she cosplaying?
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>>54334464
>he doesn't want a protective Amazon gf
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>>54328844

Fairly, druids, shamans and witch doctors naturally less so, race dependent.
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>>54328844
To actualy answer Ops question and give some historical context, barbarians as depicted in popular media - wearing hides and animal skins and howling at the moon, ecetera - were fairly rare in European history, mostly relegated to Northern Europe, Scotland, and Wales. Otherwise, 'barbarians' had much more in common with the civilized world of Rome and the Mediterranean. They had houses, metalworking, complex social hierarchies, and regular contact with more established societies such as Rome. They traded with more established empires just as much as they raided them; they bought Roman pottery, wine, and others things they couldn't make themselves, and consciously aped Roman styles of building to appear cultured. An example of this sort of deeper connected to the civilized world can be seen in Hardrian's Wall. Rather than the Game of Thrones 'End of the World' it is commonly portrayed, most modern scholars believed it acted more like a custom border: towns spanned both sides and regular checkpoints were established to tax trade coming in and out.

The important thing to remember is that although many barbarians despised civilized life, many more enjoyed its benefits and wanted easier access to them. Barbarian cheiftens sent their sons to Roman schools to integrate themselves with their neighbors, and barbarian teenagers joined the Roman army with promises of land and citizenship. They often returned, bringing Roman tactics and material wealth back to their hometowns. When relations with rome fell out of favor (which happened a lot, due to Romes divide and conquer policy with barbarian tribes) they turned to raiding to get the goods they could no longer get through trade.

That's not to say really primitive barbarians didn't exist, but the material situation of the barbarians is a lot more complicated than most people think, and I think that should be reflected in a fantasy setting.
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>>54341583
>she protects you by raping you

praise pachamama
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>>54328844
It's best to assume they're limited by what they can maintain and acquire
At the most basic, their primitiveness should have it's root in lack of infrastructure and isolation, a nomadic camp or tiny outpost of a village won't have the infrastructure to build up the trapping of civilization, and if they're isolated for whatever reason such as location, or hostility to a more advanced civilization, trade is unlikely and most of their "advanced" products come from raids
Take a look at what they have, what they can build, and what they can trade for
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>>54337826
>>54337894
>>54338066
More?

>>54342364
Can't be rape if it's snu snu anon
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>>54342719
jungle love is not a court admissible defense
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>>54336314
his face in that second panel looks just like some actor, but I can't think of who. Some thick-necked marine asshole with light eyes.
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>>54343434
christoper meloni
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>>54343365
>jungle love is not a court admissible defense
It is under the law of the jungle anon
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>>54338066
How the heck did he get a 3rd person view camera?
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>>54343717
eyeball cameras

The future is now.
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>>54335066
I agree with you in spirit, she's ugly and it irritates me when people think South American natives were blacks (retardedly common in America).
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>Come into thread hoping to see a genuine discussion about barbaric lifestyle
>Broke out into virgins calling each other faggots

Never change /tg/
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>>54334357
>When will this meme end?
Depends on the setting
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>>54334935
I rue that bodybuilding trends shifted from aesthetics to almost pure mass and extremes of development.
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>>54328844
Slightly less civilized and slightly more primitive than whatever the dominant culture is. The less technology and civilization a group of people have the less they'll have to rely on their bodies and the... well... lazier and fatter they'll get on average. The more often their children will survive, which means even the genetic rejects that are allergic to even freaking PEANUT BUTTER somehow manage to be part of society.

It's not that the barbarians necessarily have better genes, it's that the kids that AREN'T specialized for surviving a brutal and rugged existence all die. That and they train constantly to be fit hunters or whatever as part of a typical day.


So take modern day society an compare your typical fat fuck office worker to the typical factory worker or manual laborer picking fruit, laying bricks, or hauling shit around like most jobs used to entail. Those people are more fit than the office slobs but... get confused by computers and stuff. And are typically less educated, have older and out-dated traditions, and a generally backwards culture.

Go back to pre-history, and the manual laborers who pushed and hauled giant stone slabs all day were the civilized ones compared to the barbarians out in the desert who don't even have a pharaoh.

Traditional Tolkieneque fantasy? Conan as opposed to medieval nobles and shit.
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>>54344899
Whenever you compete on something, they'll seek the extreme.

It explains a lot about nature. I mean, seriously, giraffes.
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>>54334357
shut up cuck
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>>54328844
stone age exclusively, but they may trade for steel. Basically, they don't have societies larger than family tribes.
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>>54328844
The should follow primal ways, and receive strength on a personal and cultural level from living by those ways. The more base and instinctual the clan, the stronger they become.
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>>54335445
Nah man, a healthy woman's bodyweight is about 25% fat. Less than that and she's likely to have trouble surviving a pregnancy if you have trouble bringing her food even two days in a row. Fat is such a signal of ill health in today's society that people forget that it served a real purpose, but the genes remember.
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>>54336270
Asian barbarians? I can dig it.
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>>54335407
Holy fuck kill yourself.
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>>54334655
Kate Upton has a shit tier body. She's a fridge with tits. Only 12 year olds think she is a 10/10.
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>>54345217
they're called CHINESE
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>>54335407
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>>54338742
Conan himself would be considered quite powerful in many roleplaying games. He's incredibly powerful, but also has unmatched speed, stealth, cunning, command, and charm. In addition he has amazing skill with weapons of all kinds and has practical skills which serve him reliably and well.

You can't really be Conan when you have to dump any of your stats.

Also fewer people actually read the source material and instead opt for the "shirtless brute" idea that has penetrated further into the popular psyche.
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>>54335355
>a woman being fit is somehow equivalent to having a beard

I think you might be retarded.
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>>54345842
his hair's stupid, just like the god emporers
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Post more qt noble savages ya homos
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>>54347255

There needs to be a larger subset of fiction for Amazonian 'barianbabes.
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>>54334655
>I'm not mentally ill
>likes manfaces
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>>54334655
>squished face
>fridge body
>if you've seen her b4, no ass
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>>54347276
this looks so surreal
is she shopped or is he a manlet?
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>>54347505

He's probably average or a bit below, she's a track star and easily 6 ft 2+

Just when put together does she look freakish and he looks tiny
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>>54328900
Cool, found my next campaign villain
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>>54347523

Human beings are weird.
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>>54334239
Fuck off, /pol/ and take your fatty fetishes with you!
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>>54337871
But anon the whole world has basically become retarded. It can't hurt to think I might be an above average retard.
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>>54347542
the different reactions make me think they are both thinking about the same thing
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>>54346753
>not liking the classic square-cut mane style
Do you even move like a jungle cat, faggot?
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This thread is fucking terrible.

I wanted to talk about barbarian cultures where there are musclebound Conan expys and curvaceous amazonian women in leopard-print bikinis.

Of course some sexually-insecure dumbfucks have to ruin everything. As if you should care if some random on the internet thinks you're gay anyway when they don't even know your fucking NAME.
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>>54335470
>This. Barbarian is a political term, not a style of dress.

Agreed and a Paladin is a dude especially appointed by Charlemagne to officiate and point at things, not some magical guy on a horse that can heal you by copping a feel.
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>>54345842
Hell, most people forget that Conan is so smart, the mightiest sorcerer Conan ever faced considered Conan to be a worthy apprentice.
And that was after that sorcerer got resurrected from death by a bunch of other sorcerers.

Which means that Conan would make for a finer sorcerer than ACTUAL sorcerers.

I will say that this sorcerer that offered Conan an apprenticeship was pretty much an Ancient Egyptian Conan that knew Magic, so maybe his style of magic just relied on some perfect blend of mind and muscle.
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>>54347968
Conan's willpower (Wisdom) is so strong that even the most potent mind-domination magics either don't work at all or are quickly shaken off.
If he doesn't possess the peak of human potential in all attributes, he comes damn near to it.
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i think it is my ancestreal white genes that compels me to breed the darker, more savage colored people.

seeing a tribal woman like this fills me with the need to hold her down and colonize her, after killing her savage man of course. i want to make her my new wife and colonize her daily, pumping her savage pussy full of civilized cum over and over until i have pounded the primitive out of that nice delicous brown cunt
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>>54334655
She has the face of a landwhale. Also a disgusting mole right on the mouth. The tits are too far apart, the hips have literally no curve. The skin color looks unnatural as fuck, either photoshop or she uses tanning booths, if the latter she's also a shallow insensate idiot who will have the skin like an old rug in her fourties.
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>>54334655
>conventionally attractive girls without ... bulging muscles. Obviously, on 4chan that makes me an anomally.
No, that just makes you a fucking virgin.

Enjoy fucking a chick that gets tired after 15 minutes.
Meanwhile I'll be edging on my gymrat chick for 2 hours of bliss. (and quickly throw my sheets in the washer because holy fuck I did not know two humans could sweat that much).
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>>54335083
>I'm talking about someone going under for liposuction and going from 300 to 167 in less than a day.

Uhh anon you can't do liposuction for more than like 5 pounds of mass.

You're thinking of gastric surgeries (ring, sleeve, or full bypass).
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>>54345842
In D&D, he keeps doing climb checks that as a DC of 150-200, with ease.
His first encounter with civilization lead to him travelling to one of the GREATEST CITIES, just so he could learn about all the dangers of civilization(including the language, customs and trade)
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>>54335083
Removing this much mass at once would be a sure way to CV collapse.
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>>54348224
>he keeps doing climb checks that as a DC of 150-200, with ease.
Climb checks of that DC involve hanging by your fingertips climbing underneath a perfectly level, porous outcropping of rock.
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>>54347607
>above average retard
Now that's an oxymoron if I ever saw one.
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>>54328868
>>54335470

This, however, the class that originated in D&D is mostly the high fantasy barbarian popularized by Conan, for mostly high fantasy games. Worlds and people can look and act however you want in D&D, though. High fantasy games don't offer too much in the way of historical accuracy though
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>>54348328
For moving 1 meter? Sure.

For moving longer than a hasted character, on what seems to be a completely smooth surface to the trained eye? While in pursuit by archers/spearmen and slingers.
This is something Conan do regularly, and its impossible to do

Remeber: You move 1/4 of your speed, at a flat wall at DC 25. So to move full speed, or faster, you need to hit 100-125 + difficulty modifier for being in combat
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>>54338742
The forced illiteracy has propagated the idea that they're cavemen, instead of noble savages.
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>>54349427
To be fair, people seem to have gotten tired of the 'noble savage' archetype anyway. Which is kind of sad, but what can you do?
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>>54349439
All things are a cycle. Right now people like edgy anti-heroes again.
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>>54347968
>Conan would make for a finer sorcerer than ACTUAL sorcerers.
Well, if he wasn't rightly suspicious of all things weird and supernatural, that is. That trait has saved his bacon on many occasions.

Conan could have done a lot of things with his life, but he's a focused chap and knows what he likes. I feel this bit from "A Witch Shall Be Born" helps sum it up.
>But not all men seek rest and peace; some are born with the spirit of the storm in their blood, restless harbingers of violence and bloodshed, knowing no other path...
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>>54328844
Barbarian should IMO just be a loose term to describe foreigners.

If we are talking of barbarian peoples then they should be anything between the frightening not!Nazi-empire and the jungle dwellers who just recently invented the bow. Pic sorta related.
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>>54347965
>not some magical guy on a horse that can heal you by copping a feel.
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>>54328900
Clearly slavic, not nordic.
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>>54328900
>>54328844
Both are photoshopped to hell and back
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>>54352258
>can heal you by copping a feel.
From the literary mind behind "So What She's Twelve, I am in a Steampunk Dystopia!" comes "A World Where Groping is Medicinal"!
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>>54328844
The people called barbarians in-setting by the citadel cultures in my game are kind of like if you gave backwater Deep South fundamentalists a couple extra cracks to the head, played up the "incest and anti-intellectualism" bit to the nines and then gave them scavenged swords, axes and armor while being developmentally on the level of stone-age primitives. They make very little for themselves and don't understand concepts like smelting, academic spellcasting systems or machinery, just that if they offer human sacrifices to the goat god living in the giant tree that some of their dudes seem to get swole as shit and that the metal weapons they get off unlucky travelers is better at chopping meat than their own sharpened rocks are.
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>>54335407
>not wanting to fuck fit women
>not wanting to flood those abs with rivers of your hot cum as you wrench your cock free from the extra tightness of her enhanced vaginal muscles
>not basking in the animal masculinity of submitting someone who is visibly fit and obviously strong
>not basking in the human warmth of knowing she could fight you off but shes willingly submitting herself to you, either for pleasure or out of love
>not wanting to fuck fit women

Pal, one of us is certainly a complete faggot, but exactly who it is might surprise you.

It's you. You're a complete faggot.
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>>54347523
>average height for a man is 5'9"
>thats supposed to be 6'2"

Yea, no. She's at least 7 feet. That's a freak of nature, woman or otherwise.

>>54347542
Same here. Everything is designed, and things are designed with the average height of people in mind. Those checkout stands behind them are about 3 1/2 feet tall. The woman is just over 5 feet, and that guy is pushing or above 7.

I suggest you read The Design of Everything and maybe take an art class to learn some perspective.
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>>54348151
its called air conditioning poorfag
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man fuck that
if there's a class called "barbarian" and a class called "fighter" all that says is that both are martial warrior types but one has formal training and the other doesn't and is more of a brawler
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>>54328844
Barbarians aren't real anon. The Greeks called Romans barbarians, who were pretty much them but without beards. The Chinese called Europeans their equivalent of barbarians, and while we did trash the place when we first showed up we were far more technologically advanced them them.

Barbarian just means 'dirty foreigner I don't happen to sympathize with occasionally'.
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>>54334464
>when you don't realize that before human civilization allowed women to not do ceaseless physical labour and to actually take care of their hygiene, they were all hairy, smelly, dirty musclegirls

I'm pretty sure all sexual attraction is a fetish at this point, and the most common ones just happen to be the ones that let you breed
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>>54335066
>Negroid mixed with something else
Yes, with native South American. She clearly has Amerinidian features.
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>Not riding a specially-bred meat dog into battle
>Not using darts with a throwing cord as a primary weapon
>Not wearing a bezainted hoodie and sabots alone
>Not raiding civilization out of sod huts
>Not being the product of several generations of incest and fetal alcohol syndrome

Fools, all of you
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>>54354650
hi alabama
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>>54347255
>qt noble savages ya homos
>pic
Did you even watch that movie? It was shit, but still.
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>>54354425
Not sure where you're getting that form, her face is very african.
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>>54347542
>6'0" 5'11"
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>>54336270
most barbarians don't have access to cosmetic surgery, so no
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>>54345217
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>>54328844
Barbarians don't need to be primitive. Just different.

If your players' native civ is NotEngland or NotRome, then your barbarians can be NotMayans or NotZulus. If the native civ is NotChinese, the barbarians can be NotTalians or NOttoman Turks. Barbarian basically just means outlander. They're not barbaric because they're savage, necessarily. They're barbaric because they're *weird*. Primitive, advanced, it don't matter. Just make em different. Barbarians in my campaign, for example, are desert raiders, like the Arabian tribes from Lawrence of Arabia. But then, the original civ is closer to Italian princedoms or maybe Greek city-states, so a little more Med flavor.
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>>54328844
>>54359513
>>54359535
>>54359551
>Dat south-american mixture

Oh, there was a question there too

>Generally speaking, how primitive should the barbarians in fantasy settings be?

Well, it all depends on the setting, really.
Their technology can vary greatly. I guess for them to be called Barbarians it would be necessary to have them as less advanced than whoever they are compared to.
You can have loin-clothed barbarians raiding an european style castle, or a well equiped, well armed group of barbarians facing against a better equiped, better armed Roman style nation. You could even have a futuristic setting with either modern day level of tech barbarians or weird techno-barbarians like the WH40k guys from Terra before the Emperor kicked everyone into submission.

In terms of looks you can have barbarians with little to no clothing in a setting based on south-america, caribean islands, african jungles or indo-china but you could have barabarians with heavy clothing in an european, russian, mongol setting.
And none of those are rules. You could make half-naked or fully clothed barbarians in any setting.

Short "answer", it depends.
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>>54334464
I like my musclegirlfriend to peg me while I jack off and then I cum all over her tits.

If you think any of that sounds gay you're the queerest nignog on planet fagulon.
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Barbarians are an amoral, aimless, hedonistic lot. Often they are but mere tribals who wear the vestiges of what they erroneously claim to be the trappings of "civilization", while all the while showing how mindless and purposeless their actions are.

They hold no virtues and values of the family. Women who should be cared for as the mothers and wombs future generations are sent to the front like chattel, or shared among brothels as common trash. They care little for the natural, gods given order of a man and woman, readily engaging in homosexual fornication.

Each and every one of them only for themselves and their own greed, worshiping no gods, while those that do do not do so with honesty. They do not fight for honor, for justice, for law but merely to fill their own bellies or gain pittence which they no doubt spend on drugs or harlots.

Their vaunted courage is a sham, there is no fury to their fight. They flee like cowards when battle turns against their favor, and to die with honor is foreign to all but a few of them.

They are scum. They are the worst elements of humanity.

In a word: degenerates.

Here is a picture of one.
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>>54360125
>Just different
That's what a savage sympathiser would say
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>>54360299
There's no South American in her. She's full on black looking, you can tell from her face. The prognathism, massive flat nose, all of it is there.
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>>54360595
You are fucking retarded. She is either south-asian or native american. Which are technically asian.

I bet you are the fucking retarded cocksucker that thought Dungeon Meshi was tumblr art.
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>>54360724
>You are fucking retarded. She is neither south-asian or native american
Neither of these has prognathism and their noses aren't that large/massive. Her lips are also WAY too massive and thick, that's not a Native American trait. Also do you mean South East Asian? South Asian refers to Indians, who are more closely related to white people than to anything else.

Also like other guy, I'm another fucker with Native American genes. Nobody in my family looks like that black girl, other than a pair of cousins with a black dad. Only thing she has is round cheeks and almond eyes, but guess what? Those, especially the cheeks, are within the natural range of Sub-Saharan features.
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>>54360807
>Also like other guy, I'm another fucker with Native American genes.

T. American with 1/128th sioux blood
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>>54360858
I get regularly accused of being a Mexican because of my skin color, so try again. Not that you have to believe me, but judging by how you just dismiss the rest of the argument too I think you're arguing based on feelings rather than logic.
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>>54338082
MC Tininha is as far as I can get.
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>>54360891
>logic
>thinks south-asians are indians

You don't know a lot about South-Asia and Oceania, do you?
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>>54338082
best I've found
https://xhamster.com/photos/gallery/juliana-india-6084359
>>54360595
>>54360724
>>54360807
she looks like she's african + south american native, so the stereotypical brazilian
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>>54328900
What happened to her everything below the neck?
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>>54335016
The discussion only ends if no setting details are given.
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>>54361003
I'm not seeing a single ounce of Amerindian in her to be honest. I think that's just wishful thinking on people's part. They just need to admit they want to fuck a black girl.

>>54360969
I know what the term is used for. South Asia = India. You're thinking of South East Asia, which I even attempted to point out to you, but your geographic ignorance and stubbornness blinds you.
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>>54360595
>>54360724
>>54360807
These guys are so gay.

>>54361003
>she looks like she's african + south american native, so the stereotypical brazilian
There you go, this. stereotypical brazilian mixture.
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>>54347720
>Totally logical Segue
Always wanted to read the old Conan shit. I know he had a cartoon in the 90s and that Arnie movie but I'm almost certain that doesn't count.
Now that I say that, did Conan appear in any OTHER medias? as well? Where's the best place to find this stuff?
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>>54361163
Stereotypical Brazillian is like 40% black, and the rest is split white and native, generally closer to around 30-40%. People kind of forget that Brazil did use to have a Portuguese-descendant population.
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>>54361265
>generally closer to around 30-40%
White, I meant.
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Karsa Orlong is still the best Conan knockoff I've ever read. Pity his tribes didn't get too much development, unless they did more in the side books.
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>>54361222
A lot of the audiobooks of R.E. Howard's short stories are on youtube for free. The cartoon was shit, and the Arnie movies, while good, don't give you an accurate representation of the character.
The comic books published by Dark Horse would be a nice place to get good, solid Conan stories with fantastic art.
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>>54328844
Well d&d helped to establish the illiterate tribal savage cliche for barbarians whereas media like conan allows a more rounded but still simplistic character.

If you go back to source material in the real world, though, then the meaning really opens up. "Barbarian" and similar terms often basically meant foreigner/outsider. Certainly, there were usually connotations of the "barbarians" being inferior but more as trash-talking and ego rather than them really being comparatively underdeveloped.
Mongols were barbarians to the greeks, germanic tribes barbarians to the romans, vikings to everyone along the coast and the japanese considered all outsiders barbarians.
Raiding/conflict is often a factor but it really is about perspective.
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>>54337573
>>54337809
>>54338236

Interesting posts Anon. I like this, might use it in a campaign.
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>>54360858
Not the guy your replying to

But least here in Canada, anyone who isnt at least a 2nd generation immigrant has at least one Native geand parent.

I for one am one of said 2nd gen immigrants and I grew up in a pretty good town near a major city and all my canadian friends had either a native mother or a native granmother ((Get euro'd))

But really I dont know how it is in the states but its super common to have native ancestry in
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