Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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Nth for femarines have always existed.

Lost and the Damned when?

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>>54304305
Not even Doomrider approves of your bullshit

>>54304305
>starting the thread off with femmarine shitposting
Fuck you

Scout bikes for Blood Angels. Yes/No?

>>54304305
One of our poor battle brothers was struck by foul warp magic!

Now he has breast and we dare not check to see if he still has his manhood.

>>54304281
I don't even play 40k but I stopped in to say your pic made me nostalgic, OP. I've been here too long.

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Edarfags BTFO

Is plasma plasma missile pod a decent Crisis loadout? Looking for an alternative to flamer spam and need some anti heavy infantry.
>inb4 take commanders

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I'm not sure if I'm blind or retarded or maybe both, but today's Mustering for Konor has a fully Adeptus Custodes army featured. They can't actually run it can they? Custodes don't have an HQ. Is there some way to run only Custodes legally?

Article in question:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/13/mustering-for-konor-our-armies-stevegw-homepage-post-4/

>>54304342
Yes. I actually think scout bikers are one of the hidden gems this edition.
>6 S4 shots at 12" per model
>combat knife on every model for bonus attack, plus bolt pistol
>T5 W2
>27 ppm

While we all can agree that 8th edition is one of the better 40k editions that have been released, the amount of errors that "playtesting" missed in basic rules is staggering. Should we really trust GW to do the right thing, or did the "playtesters" drop the ball and GW is letting them take the fall?

"Playtester" defenders go and stay go

>>54304402
>I haven’t played with my Adeptus Custodes yet
That makes sense.

>>54304402
>GW puts out rules and codex for custodes
>"Hey, guys, how can I play custodes?"

Gee, I dunno, anon...

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>>54304402
The plot thickens

Ultramarines are cool as fuck, I wish they ddin't get so much hate.

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Got lost in the other thread so trying again. Got an escalation league coming up so using that to give 8th a shot. Eventually want to have it be combined IG and Marine but I have marines to start with so what units should I be looking at for, initially, small points games?

>>54304451
...?

>>54304420
>playtesters defenders go
>please don't argue with me just support my nerdrage

why do you think they got a finished copy of the rules as they appear in the index? they got a bare bones stripped down version for playtesting, so that it could be easily modified day by day.

>>54304397
I really hope that the Tau codex comes soon and rebalances Crisis and Commanders so that they have distinct roles and that Crisis aren't strictly inferior outside of flamer-spam.

So while acknowledging that any non-flamer setup would be better as a Commander right now:
What exactly do you want these suits to be fighting, and at what range? 2*PR+MP isn't an awful setup for heavier targets. However, the MP operates at a much longer effective range than the PR (triple PR's preferred 12" range). Additionally, PR are better against things like heavy infantry, while MP are better against light and medium vehicles. If you're specifically looking for suits which are decent against a couple of targets but not great against either, that's fine. Barring that, I'd recommend mono-weapon suits, either with three weapons, or possibly two weapons plus ATS.

>>54304436
>>54304445
Can't you read? He said: Custodes don't have an HQ. Now tell me how you would build your custodes-only army if you don't have a hq. If you don't put in a unit of 1 commissar as an understrenght unit of 0 commissars.

>>54304445
I have the rules. They don't have an HQ. His army does not have an HQ. He intends to play it anyway. All the evidence suggests he can't, that's why I'm asking.

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>>54304456
They're alright by me.

>>54304479
He can include any Imperium HQ you dumb fuck.

>>54304467
...!

>>54304420
could you be more specific?
Because most of the errors in the basic rules and especially indexes are typos and editing errors. That's not the play testers job.

>>54304451
What exactly am I looking at? You've underlined a space.

>>54304456
Literally just on here and 1d4. nobody else minds the boys in blue unless you play like a dick and daisy chain your whole army to guilliman.

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Alright, I made some adjustments based on your advice. I dropped most of the klaws and changed them on big choppas to save some points for trukk boyz and picked skorchas for Kans and Warbosses.
The question is - should I drop the painboy for a stormboyz unit? The point cost is same so it's all about usefulness

Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Orks) [93 or 94 PL, 1498pts]
HQ
Warboss [4 PL, 99pts]: Attack Squig, Kombi-Skorcha, Power Klaw
Warboss [4 PL, 99pts]: Attack Squig, Kombi-Skorcha, Power Klaw

Troops
Boyz [13 PL, 223pts]
- Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
- 3x Ork Boy W/ 'Eavy Weapon: Big Shoota.
- 26x Ork Boy W/ Shoota
Boyz [72pts, 9 PL]:
- Boss Nob: Choppa, Slugga
- 11x Ork Boy W/ Shoota

Elites
Nob w/ Waaagh! Banner [79pts, 4 PL]: Kustom Shoota
Nobz [11 PL, 155pts]: Cybork Body
- Boss Nob: Ammo Runt, Power Klaw, Slugga
- 4x Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga
Nobz [21 PL, 267pts]: Cybork Body
- Boss Nob: Ammo Runt, Power Klaw, Slugga
- 7x Nob: Big Choppa, Slugga
- 2x Nob: Choppa, Slugga
Painboy [4 PL, 65pts]: Power Klaw

Fast Attack
Stormboyz [3 PL, 65pts]
- Boss Nob: Power Klaw
- 4x Stormboy

Heavy Support
Deff Dread [153pts, 8 PL]
- Deff Dread: Skorcha, Skorcha
- - Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
Killa Kans [204pts, 10 PL]
- 3x Killa Kan: Skorcha

Dedicated Transport
Trukk [82pts, 5 PL]: Big Shoota

Total: [93 or 94 PL, 1498pts]

>>54304476
I don't play custodes. But if he hasn't played with them yet, he doesn't need an HQ. Because he hasn't played yet.

>>54304493
His army does not have an HQ from another army. He has not indicated that he'll be using one.

>>54304381
10/10 would kek again

>>54304500
Top left corner. I haven't underlined anything tho, it was from a stream where they circled stuff

>>54304476
yes you can.
You won't have any command points, but you don't have a commander so whatever.

Or just take an Inquisitor.

Which is better in your learned opinion: A single unupgraded Venom (80 points) or 1 Command Point and an Agoniser Archon+One Extra Ranger.

>>54304476
>Can't you read?

Better than he can read his own army's codex.

>>54304476
They have a HQ, that is marked HQ.

>>54304510
Needz more dakka, boss

>>54304381
>He is still forcing the manipulated shitposting
Cheetahfag, everyone knows that it wasn't samefagging but you talked with three different anons

>>54304534
Is there a detachment without HQs?

>>54304539
Can you explain? I'm curious at this point

>>54304540
Who?

What particular rule oddity of 40k from previous editions amuses you the most?

>In 5e, Go to Ground meant you turned your models on their sides. Hilarity was enforcing TLOS with this, especially if you played Guard and had Incoming.

>>54304402
Couldn't you just spam auxilery detachments and forget about CP?

>>54304510
I would honestly put rokkits on the kans. they have better BS for a reason. Can also get you some heavy hitting long range weapons.

>>54304510
If you drop the painboy, I'd just make the stormboy unit bigger instead of a whole new unit. You want mobs to hit the enemy like a wave, and that means more and more boys, whenever possible.

Are you fighting anyone in particular, or just making a general list? Cause even 10 or 12 stormboyz can disappear pretty quick depending on how the fight goes.

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>>54304467
>>54304500
The red line was a meme from a while ago. This is what's important

yet in my heart I know my 800 burgerbucks of stones will forever be trapped in a setting I no longer intend to play. Why did they stay in 7th?

>>54304561
>You're a very persistent faggot

>>54304570
see
>>54304451

>>54304575
Matched play has detachment limits.

>>54304575
It depends on how you interpret "you cannot start a battle with less than 0 CP."

This either means you start the battle, but simply have 0 CP, or you cannot actually start the battle.

"You can never put too much water in a nuclear reactor."

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>>54304523
That's a shitty photoshop.

>>54304572
Cover saves being an either/or with armour.

>>54304281
ah I was looking for this thread.

I played my first game of 8th ed 40k. I haven't played 40k since tyranids had a decent codex.

Results? 8th edition 40k, that so many people have been jizzing about...is bland, boring, insipid.
It's shite.
No seriously, it's crap. It's as good as snakes n' ladders or monopoly.

>>54304590
Yeah, three.

>>54304587
to be fair to him, you cannot see the battlefield role icon for shit in that pic.

>>54304604
lol fuck off retard

>>54304604
Your opinion changed my life, time to sell my armies.

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>>54304456

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>>54304602

>>54304604
You never played 7th, so you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>54304626
NP bro, that's why popped in to give you the truth.

Although, don't sell your armies yet, a new ruleset, or house rules could actually make boring edition better.

>>54304587
The point is the index does not use this datasheet. It's a stream capture.

>>54304585
Not from a meme, it was Rob circling stuff on stream

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>>54304474
no i want my flamers.
They'll bw here tomorrow

>>54304606
at 2000 pts. It's a bit hard to get all that from 3 detatchments. But 1500 isn't.
1000pts at 2 is also doable.

>>54304649
Explain, IN DETAIL, why you feel it's boring. Especially since we've not got proper codexes yet.

>>54304610
I know it can be hard for a pussy like you to hear the truth.

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>>54304402

It's not a Custodes army, it uses those shite fake Custodes dreads.

>>54304628
I'm looking at the PDF. I posted what is in the pdf. Unless someone is deliberately posting a pdf to our mega with the battle role of the Custodes changed for shits and giggles that sheet is wrong.

>>54304649
>house rules could actually make boring edition better.

We've done it guys, we've actually started to communicate with the early caveman.

>>54304668
0/10 go cry about it on your blog cutiepie

>>54304677
Font is wrong to be from the PDF

are snipers even worth taking in 8th? it feels like they don't really do enough damage to warrant their cost. like maybe turn 3 ill have killed a character, but by then I might as well have just brought something more killy and removed more of the shit getting the buffs.

>>54304583
>If you drop the painboy, I'd just make the stormboy unit bigger
Maybe I didn't depict it clearly. I have to choose if I want to drop the painboy and keep this small 5-models unit of stormboyz or vice versa
>Are you fighting anyone in particular, or just making a general list?
General list. I played only few demo games and grabbed some ork stuff on discount so now I'm having fun with plastic crack and thinking about my first "real" game

>>54304579
>>54304548
But where should I put more dakka mates? I think that Deff Dread will be better as a melee rape-machine so the only option is to change the killa kans role. Maybe two big shootas and a single rokkit launcha?

>>54304677
its the new codex faggot.
Turn your brain on

>>54304643
Eh, I actually found 7e fairly enjoyable. Never got to play vs Tau, but I did face off against quite a few Eldar, Guard, etc.

I miss Champion of Chaos and Challenges desu. The current index army feels too much like the 4e gavdex for my liking :(

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Spiritual Liege spotted.

>>54304690
Vindicare and Illic are useful for Softening characters, not slaying outright.

>>54304677
It's not a shop tho. During the stream, the streamers said you could use Custodes as HQ or troops. Anyone with the premium twitch can confirm.

>>54304590
1. No it doesn't, detachments limits are an optional rule for organized/tournament play.
2. You can make a custodes army with three units.

>>54304643
Was 7th edition also as bland boring and insipid?
Now you seem to think that because I wasn't playing I don't know how other editions have been, however that's a lot of assuming you're doing there, and that makes an ass out of u.

ok srs mode again.
7th was a massive cluster fuck of power builds.
8th does repair some of that mess, but just because 8th is (perceived) better than 7th doesn't mean that 8th it's fun or interesting.

>>54304689
I don't know what I can do to prove it to you. Download the PDF and look at it for yourself.

Anyone have the punished Guilliman image?

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Hook has everything back up.

I'm going to pick up a Leviathan. What weapon options should I pick up?

>>54304712
Btw, you are not replying to the poster of the stream picture. Not sure what he is trying to say. Index says troops, Stream said troops or hq

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>>54304675
>FW dread
>not fake

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>>54304381
>unironically using the work cuck

>>54304695
I'm curious on what you plan on doing with those fuck load of nobz.

>>54304697
'I haven't played since tyranids had a decent codex'
>tyranids didn't even get a codex in 7e, their 6e codex was horrible, and they were the second worst army in the game

>>54304703
>>54304696
I see. I was unaware of them posting a thing on twitch. That's why I came here to ask in the first place. I thank you all for your patience in explaining it.

>>54304722
Grav launchers, duh.

>>54304736
It could be from the codex, but the sream was from before the index release. From the eight edition prerelease week

>>54304707
>just because I haven't played in years doesn't mean I don't know how the games actually played.
>Just because I haven't played in years doesn't mean I'm wearing rose colored nostalgia goggles.
You haven't been playing, so no, you don't know.

>>54304604
>a fucking nid player complaining about 8th
1/10, made me reply. Game is more balanced, fun and playable than it's ever been.
>but muh flavor
Wait for the codex you fucking dolt

>>54304729

That sure looks nothing like a calthtemptor painted gold anon.

Yeah, the Achillus and Galatus aren't the Saggitatius, but the calthtemptor isn't any of them.

>>54304734
I'm not that anon, but I do agree Cruddace is a fucking hack. Though tbt, 4e Nids weren't all sunshine and roses either, and their armies ended up being pretty FINAL DESTINATION by 5e.

>>54304696
Which Codex would this be? Are they going to be in the general SM codex?

>>54304765
Two wrongs don't make a right anon.

>>54304397
Looking to do commander loadouts myself. What are the best general-purpose anti-space marine loadouts? (assume SG on all)
2xCIB ATS
2xML ATS
2xBC ATS
2xPR w/whatever
2xFB w/whatever

holy shit the ATS is so good this edition

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>>54304716

>>54304752
My guess is they realised custodes were too interesting as a standalone army and too many people would choose custodes over primaris. So they changed the HQ thing at the last moment.

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>>54304731
That's a good question. Few threads ago anons told me to use them to secure the dakka boyz and do some hard hitting with big choppas

When you play a maelstrom game you want to get as much objectives to win the game.

But what if my opponent plays to hold all the objectives and I just say fuck it. Shove my entire army down his throat and just table him so I can win by default.

Would that make you a bad player or just a bad strategist?

>>54304695
Kanz are much better at shooting, so load them up on dakka.

If it's painboy or 5 stormboyz, go painboy. You don't want to have mobs of orks that small, they'll get wiped out before doing their job. I love Stormboyz, but you want at least 15 if you're going to bother at all, since that's bigger than just the boyz you can cram in a trukk, yet still big enough that they can probably ignore moral checks until they charge in. Your 5 strong Nobz mob might make it in due to their extra wounds and higher save, but are they just running in on foot?

I notice you have 12 full boyz, I assume on the trukk, right? If you're just charging that in, you MIGHT want to drop it down to 11 boyz so you can cram a character in there with them (I assume a Warboss).

I'll also mention that Big Meks with either a Kustom Force Field (could be nice to stick with your 30 strong boyz mob) and a power fist is 100 pts, just 1 pt more than one of your warbosses.

But, seriously, go with your gut. If this is your first list, field the boyz that look fun to you and see what they can do. A new ork player is always great to see.

>>54304656
>not from a meme
I know, but dont you remember when the exact same thing happening when it was first Posted? BoLS and other shitsources lost their minds. Shit was hilarious

>>54304830
If your opponent didn't have any way to defend himself from something like that, that makes him the bad player.

>>54304830
welll two parts to this.
You need to fully table him, or you still lose, and thinking "I can easily table him" is hubris.

Second, getting objectives usually involves killing your opponents army, and you need to kill enough of that army so that you have stuff left to hold objectives.

So going full one way or the other is a great way to lose. Learning how to balance the two is the trick, but you can favor one side or the other and do fine.

>>54304830
depends on the army. certain armies work better trying to table their opp because they don't have the speed to cover the board, and other armies are better at dominating the board and not caring as much about fighting.

>>54304830
IF you can pull that off, it just makes you good at thinking outside of a very small box that Maelstrom forces you into.
However, quickly tableing the opponent is pretty much impossible unless, I dunno, your opponent is playing Harlequins and refuses to enter CC.

>>54304830
>would that make you a bad strategist
not at all, if you can actually do it.
Sometimes a tabling is the only way to win. I play in a lot of tournaments, maybe 20% of the time I realize I will lose if I dont table him and just start ignoring my objectives to try and kill everything. Sometimes it even works.

>>54304666
1) heavy weapons vs anything with multiple wounds:
It's all or nothing, fail armour save: you're dead, pass armour save then those scary weapons of mass destruction are worthless.

2) terrain is nigh inexistant. there is LoS blocking terrain (but using true LoS a model can usually get a Los through any GW building.
or zone terrain which only has any effect if the entire unit is with said zone.
1 dude in a squad of 20 is partially within? Then no +1 save for the entire unit.
not only that but terrain has no effect on movement.
8th edition is the 2d terrain edition.

3) a single model can lock entire units in melee. In the movement phase models in an engaged unit cannot move at all, cannot shoot - except with pistols, and only at the model in melee with them.
Then in the combat phase units with at least 1model within 1" of an enemy can move 3".
This grinds the game to a standstill.

It has nothing to do with codexes, it has nothing to do with spam net decks. It's about the basic rules of the game itself.
1) armour save mods are nice.
2) The new Str Vs Tgh "table" is nice
3) hitting on fixed values is braindead. they couldn't have used the same table as the Str Vs Tgh one for melee ?
They brought back arm save mods, but couldn't manage "to hit" modifiers?
4) moral is nice, pity all characters are immune though (i suppose that does make them heroic)

>>54304883
Ahah no I don't remember sorry. I just remember posting the screenshot and asking if anyone could ask GW for clarification. If someone is up for it, it could be good to ask. Considering things like Tempestus had the possibility of using the squad leader as HQ.
Care to explain what happened exactly over at BOLS and stuff?

>>54304880
And take out the word either when I'm talking about Big Meks. I have a Big Mek with a Shokk Attack Gun (also 100 pts), but he honestly wasn't that effective last fight. Mostly due to bad rolls on my part though.

>>54304797
ATS is fantastic on basically anything except PR or FB. May I ask why you're so wedded to the SG? It's not bad for added durability, but the 50% reduction in firepower (2+ATS vs 3+ATS) is a big hit.

>>54304830
if you win the game then you're the better strategist

i get that same feeling when i table someone and completely outdo them due to dice or something

>>54304830
Depends entirely on the army, list and the opponent.
If you brought combined arms gaurd against stormraven spam, then yes you would be the retard.
If you're list has no hope of beating them at objectives, or is designed around tabling the opponent, then it's fine.

>>54304830
Like >>54304887 said, its a difficult thing to do but not impossible. Players who blindly bumrush objectives are dumb and easy to beat, but if he has a smart advance that takes out whatever threats you have as they cap objectives he'll be hard to beat.

Figure out what he's trying to do, and counter it. Is he staying in as much cover as possible? Then treat him to some deepstriking threats and CC. Or does he plink of threats and run in on objectives? Then protect your shit, bait him, and introduce loads of chaff to fuck over his advance

What army are you, and what is he?

Question for the Space Marine players:
If someone offers to pay 35 of the 80 bucks for the Know No Fear set and all they ask for are the Death Guard models, you may keep the dice, the mat and whatever else comes in the box, would you do that?

Trying to decide whether to take the Death Guard off someone else or just buy First Strike by myself, so I wonder if you would consider that a fair trade.

>>54304788
Probably imperial agents with sororitas and admech

>>54304934
People flipped out thinking 8th would be 7th and Custodes were going to be as ridiculously OP as retards think they are in Horus heresy. Boy were they wrong

Honestly I doubt they'll get a formal army, it's really up to FW and they're so bitter and lazy I doubt it. Maybe after all the codexes/fixed indexes come out, but I doubt it.

>>54304757
Actually Tyranids were only one of my factions.
I've played spess derps (like everyone else and their dog)
craftworld eldar (there was no other option at the time, goodwin had only just done those neat aspect warriors)
harlequins
genestealer cult (when we still had limos)
sisters of battle
and back to deathwatch and pre heresy death guard.

>>54304927
1) what?
that sounds actively untrue. Damage rolls are thing, things with >10 wounds have reduced profiles at lower wounds. Lucky melta shoting a landraider is no longer a thing.
2) you want the towing a line giving the whole unit cover thing?
And you can pull the units outside of cover first.
The terrain rules weren't that well written, but you seem to have a weird understanding of them.

3) falling back is a thing now. it's easier to get out of melee now than it was before.

>>54304905
Or you're against Devilgaunt and Genestealer spam. That's wiped quite a few people I've seen go against it.

>>54304990
It's pretty much fair, if you're not doing to start up Death Guard anyway. You might be able to sell the Death Guard for more, but that takes time, and it doesn't get you pretty much an instant opponent.

>>54304510
Is that all the models you have? I would drop the second Warboss and maybe add in a Weridboy for some jumping.

Add more to the Stormboyz and maybe less nobz, no need for two squads of them especially one at half strength compared to the other.

Get more boyz, troops are your backbone and with less, it gets harder for you. Maybe drop the trukk and get two squads of thirty.

The dread is fine, though I would run another close combat weapon if you plan to run him into melee and see if you can squeeze in a second. Kans could use rokkits for some good damage and high bs.

>>54304990
That's a really good trade. If you really want the DG then get it online in a few months when it'll be cheap as dirt, cause as is you get a good deal and make your friend happy.

>>54304999
>Honestly I doubt they'll get a formal army, it's really up to FW and they're so bitter and lazy I doubt it. Maybe after all the codexes/fixed indexes come out, but I doubt it.
I read on some forum (don't remember if dakkadakka or bolter and chainsword) that someone asked FW if their models would ever get 40k rules. They replied they are keeping all FW Custodes models 30k only. So there's that.
I think GW wants to discourage people from building a custodes army, and removed the hq choice for that reason

Is there a word for working with xenos that isn't heresy? It seems like a poor fit for it.

>>54304990
Seems fair.

>>54304880
>I love Stormboyz, but you want at least 15 if you're going to bother at all
I like them too and I just want to find a way to field them. I will probably buy 2 or 3 boxes of them when I will have enough cash to expand my army to 2000pts
>Your 5 strong Nobz mob might make it in due to their extra wounds and higher save, but are they just running in on foot?
Yeah, all nobz and bosses are on foot
>I notice you have 12 full boyz, I assume on the trukk, right?
Yup, that's my plan for them. That's why I didn't give them heavy weapons - I thought they might be useful as a mobile fire platform
>I'll also mention that Big Meks
I will remember about them but I want to keep this hobby on budget for a long while so for now I want to grab all these deal boxes like SC! and Trukk Boyz
>A new ork player is always great to see
Good to hear. I'm pretty suprised that I decided to pick greenskinz instead of T'au or Crones but let's give them a try - I'm really looking forward to kitbashing and modeling all this orkish stuff

Thank you for your help Anon, cheers

>>54305037
Good. They're cool for 30k (only bought the models to have the models, but it's still cool to have an army), but even with the stuoid shit of them coming back I want some things to remain holy. An army of these guys in 40k is just weird

>>54305041
Suicide is the typical accepted term.

>>54305041
Robouting

>>54304927
>It's all or nothing, fail armour save: you're dead
do you know any anti armor weapons that do 10W? no? then its at least 2 shots. Better than a LR getting blown up turn 1 by one lucky lascannon.

>terrain is nigh inexistant
true. At my LGS we're using a lot of LOS blocking terrain now for this very reason.

>a single model can lock entire units in melee
True, but then you fall back and have the rest of your army shoot the crap out of them. Better than in 8th where you only had the (risky) "our weapons are useless!"

>hitting on fixed values is braindead. they couldn't have used the same table as the Str Vs Tgh one for melee
but they do anon, for your To Wound roll.

>couldn't manage "to hit" modifiers
Lots of units have -1 to hit. Sydonian dragoons are one example.

>moral is nice, pity all characters are immune though
I actually hate morale now (i play admech, we have ld7).

I dont mean to be a dick, but have you actually played any 8th yet?

>>54305074
Yeah, same for me. That's why I'm not really a fan of certain named characters having a model and, in general, playing with named characters

Maelstrom was a shit idea with shit implementation. Random unwinnable objectives=herp, and random VP for objectives=derp. Plus there was occasionally that Guy that wouldn't let you redraw "destroy an enemy Psyker" when your opponent was playing Necrons.

The game really should have had some sort of scorecard mechanism for "how long you held an objective", and a graduated score for that, so it wasn't a game of fucking rocket tag.

>>54304927
>1) heavy weapons vs anything with multiple wounds:
>It's all or nothing, fail armour save: you're dead, pass armour save then those scary weapons of mass destruction are worthless.
Firstly that's wrong, things like lascannons or melta have variable damage to provide a slight chance of multi-wound models like termies surviving. Secondly, fail an armour save and lose a wound, lose all your wounds you die has been a core game concept since forever, this is litteraly nothing new.
>2) terrain is nigh inexistant. there is LoS blocking terrain (but using true LoS a model can usually get a Los through any GW building.
That's completely up to the players. You can put as much or little terrain as you want.
>3) a single model can lock entire units in melee.
Nothing new
>In the movement phase models in an engaged unit cannot move at all,
Not true
>cannot shoot - except with pistols, and only at the model in melee with them.
yes and? Would you prefer pre-8th of stuck in melee shoot nothing?
>Then in the combat phase units with at least 1model within 1" of an enemy can move 3".
Pile in is nothing new, and you can only make the 3" move to get closer to the enemy, it's not a free move.
>3) hitting on fixed values is braindead. they couldn't have used the same table as the Str Vs Tgh one for melee ?
The WS table was always retarded and fixed values are infinitely better.
>They brought back arm save mods, but couldn't manage "to hit" modifiers?
Except to hit mods ARE in the game. Moving with heavy weapons, advancing with assault weapons, the ravenwing darkshroud just to name a few.

>>54305095
>>54305113
You guys are stupid for legit responding to an obvious retarded shitter. Just tell him to kill himself and move on.

>>54304927
>1) heavy weapons vs anything with multiple wounds:
It's all or nothing, fail armour save: you're dead, pass armour save then those scary weapons of mass destruction are worthless.
So? How is this any different from Instant Death? Either your Tyranid Warrior saves that S8 hit or he dies. Now it's: Either your Tyranid Warrior saves that Damage 3 hit or he dies. Difference being that those weapons tend to have either D3 or D6 damage, so it's not even a given that said Warrior dies off a Missile to the face.

>1 dude in a squad of 20 is partially within? Then no +1 save for the entire unit.
Wrong. When allocating wounds, you pick the one outside of cover to die and afterwards the rest of the unit benefits from cover. And shockingly, the ones not in cover getting picked off first is pretty realistic.
>not only that but terrain has no effect on movement.
Except that you need to move up, down and around it because every inch up or down that terrain comes out of your movement budget and only fliers can ignore this (as they should).

>3) a single model can lock entire units in melee.
As has always been the case.
> In the movement phase models in an engaged unit cannot move at all, cannot shoot
That is an outright lie. You can fall back, which is an integral part of how the game works and if you're too stupid to use one of the core mechanics, then that's not the game's fault.

You either didn't actually play, or you played after only having read half the rules.

>>54305110
Being able to spend CP for re-draws helps a lot

>>54304789

Have you considered that melee custard dreads can be cool -and- your mixed role variant that doesn't currently have a model can be cool too?

>>54305016
you only managed 3 points? and you haven't one shotted a vehicle with a 5 marine missile launcher unit? 5 krak missile launchers (5d6 potential damage in a single shooting phase)
will remove any vehicle if you fail a couple of armour saves.
str 8, so it's 3+ to wound, sometimes 4+
-3 armour save means even the best armour isn't impervious.
Wow you're so sheltered if you haven't heard of concentrated fire before.

2) i don't expect one dude in cover to give cover to the whole unit. I kinda would have liked cover on a per model basis, that way those in cover could benefit from it.

3) falling back is fine with MSU, not so good with big units. new edition new tactoks right?
pity there isn't some middle ground rather than trying to jam primaris (small units) down poeple's throats.

Now answer the rest.

>>54305060
>I will probably buy 2 or 3 boxes of them when I will have enough cash to expand my army to 2000pts
One tip with Stormboyz is all those extra bits, and probably some sturdy plastic tubing, you can get at least double the amount of stormboyz out of a box. So if you have 2 boxes of stormboyz, and cheap box of 10 boyz, you can probably turn that into 20 stormboyz with a little extra work, and you'll save a few bucks along the way. Same with burna/loota boxes (unless they've changed since last I bought one). I can understand keeping on a budget, and remember there MIGHT be new models when the new codex drops, so get that stuff that is cheap now, and hope anything else drops in price later.

>>54305110
Why you usually ask your opponent if it's alright to discard cards you can't get, like psyker cards or flyer cards.

Also, there should be an eternal war game that's just hold the objective and get points.

How come Amberley lets Cain keep Jurgen around? I thought blanks were super fucking rare and had much better things to do than pal around with a normal commissar?

>54305095
>true. At my LGS we're using a lot of LOS blocking terrain now for this very reason
My LGS had like none... :c

It's super frustrating playing guard and never having a cover save because one of the like 200 models can touch the wall.

>>54304498
Saint Celestine not being unique immediately comes to mind

>>54305146
>5 marine missile launcher unit
>5
Get the fuck out moron

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Rate this necron list pls

HQ:
Overlord with hyperphase sword and orb of rez (139)
Cryptek (104)

Troops
2x 20warriors (480)
10 inmortals with gauss (170)

Heavy support
1 monolith (381)

Flier
1 deathscythe (220)

Total: 1494

>>54305157
That way, she knows where to find a Blank when she needs one. She even mentioned at one point that it's better to not bring him into the fold because other inquisitors would want to get their hands on him.

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Is there anyone more badass than Straken in 40k
>basic human with no gene mods or excessive augments for more than just to replace what he lost
>strong as an ork warboss at S6
>tough as an astartes at T4
>3+ save, which means his bare chest is as tough as ceramite
>got his arm bitten off by a giant shark, kills the shark
>strangles a carnifex to death
>leads his men from the front line, screaming insults and encouragement never making them do something he himself wouldn't
>every bone in his body crushed by a psyker, kills him with a knife
>fights with a pump shotgun and a giant machete in a universe of laser guns and death robots
>basically a 1980s action hero but with less cocaine use
So how badass is your armies HQ /tg/?

>>54305146
>you only managed 3 points? and you haven't one shotted a vehicle with a 5 marine missile launcher unit? 5 krak missile launchers (5d6 potential damage in a single shooting phase)
>will remove any vehicle if you fail a couple of armour saves.
>str 8, so it's 3+ to wound, sometimes 4+
>anti-armor weapons can potentially be good at being anti-armor
>this is dumb in anon's mind
Ignoring the fact that getting 5d6 damage is an insanely lucky roll, what would you propose? That vehicles be immune to weapons designed to destroy vehicles?

>>54305185
Took a monolith instead of wraiths/10

>>54305029
>Is that all the models you have?
Not yet mostly
>I would drop the second Warboss and maybe add in a Weridboy for some jumping.
>maybe less nobz, no need for two squads of them especially one at half strength compared to the other
Well, I was thinking about Grukk's Boss Mob box. If these 5 nobz and a second Warboss are not must have I can actually buy a box of stormboyz and a weirdboy instead for more variety
>The dread is fine, though I would run another close combat weapon if you plan to run him into melee and see if you can squeeze in a second
Maybe some day but not now - money really matter for me right now desu
>Kans could use rokkits for some good damage and high bs
Yeah, I will change their skorchas for rokkits

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Am I doing Grey Knights right? (Usually against guard or Necrons)
>https://pastebin.com/zKpvzQbJ
The usual plan is to send the Purgation squads in via Raider with Draigo.
Sigourney and Weaver would be in chamber until a sizeable threat presents itself.
The paladins play cards in their chamber until problems or opportunities present themself.

>>54305166
We houseruled that the 1st story of buildings has solid walls, regardless of whether it does or not. Try suggesting that, it really helps a lot.

>>54305198
>Is there anyone more badass than Straken in 40k
Most named individuals from Gaunt's Ghosts.

>>54305198
>>strangles a carnifex to death
>strangling a Tyranid
Are you straight retarded?

>>54305155
It was a good sperglord detector, to be fair. That and forgetting to move a unit right before ending your move phase.

Def agree on the "hold". I do like the idea of objectives having different weights though. Owning the center is worth more than camping your DZ, owning a connected "chain" of objectives is worth more than a scattered tangle of objectives, etc.

>>54305202
Not my list tho, its the list of a friend who got beaten up really badly by a death guard army

Any real tips or help?

>>54305028
>>54305033
>>54305043
Thanks mates!

>>54305198
I love my juggerlord, but he's not as badass as Straken.

>>54305178
that's an editing error.
That's not what playtesters do, that the copyeditors do.
Copy-edit happens right before the game is printed, after the playtesters would be done. The playtesters were not using the final copyedit.

>>54305146
>5 marine missle launcher unit
Way to confirm you actually haven't played 8th retard

>>54305152
>remember there MIGHT be new models when the new codex drops
The ork SC! box is sold out on GW store. I think they will rebox it and change the painboy for some HQ like warboss since painboy is now elite

>>54305220
Take a bunch of wraiths with beamers instead of the monolit, take a ghost ark instead of the doom scythe and make sure that the ghost ark and the cryptek stay in range of the warriors and immortals all game.

>>54305248
They also need to change all the paper in each SC box to reflect the new rules like the lack of formations.

>>54305208
Needs more Terminators.

>>54304657
where do you buy bits?

>>54305217
No but the lore writers might be, or straken is just that /fit/ and snapped its neck

>>54305256
>take a ghost ark instead of the doom scythe
lol, he spent a fuckton of money and time on the doom scythe, I don't think it is fair to make him consider to replace it, sure thing on the wraiths
any other suggestion?

>>54305275
But Paladins are Terminators, just with an extra wound, attack, leadership and dakka options.

>>54305294
>but the lore writers might be
We're gonna have to go with this one

>or straken is just that /fit/ and snapped its neck
Their necks are designed to handle the impact of the creature sprinting full pelt headfirst into a baneblade and headbutting it so hard it smashes through the armour designed to protect against anti-tank weaponry.

Alright lads, powerlevel time. In a straight 1v1, which main trooper from each faction wins out the most?

>>54305303
Other suggestions? Upgrade to a 2000 point list and bring a ghost ark and some heavy destroyers

>>54305308
Yes, but not Troops. Sure you could just use the detachment that requires Elites instead, but then you'd lose some valuable Command points.

>>54305325
Meaning?

>>54305308
Sorry, what I meant is:
Needs more terminators or paladins

>>54305318
Tyranids can't fuKKEN LIFT THO CAN THEY BRO???

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>>54305185
>hyperphase sword on Lord
>monolith
>deathscythe

Nigga, what the fuck are you doing

>>54305327
dude, we all have a 1500 point list made, I ain't remaking my list with the army list builder kil just because the list of my friend doesn't have a ghost ark

>>54305344
So, obviously, guardsmen are probably lowest powerlevel. 1 guardsman vs 1 spess muhreen, sloggy tyranid, ork boy, Tau trooper, or Eldar footsoldier is gonna' lose 9/10. But past that, when do things get more interesting?

>>54305361
lololol hey man you asked if I had any other suggestions, do whatever you want

What program do you guys use to make lists? The additionally effort of working out what units costs is doing my nut.

>>54304936
Misread commander profile, I thought it said he could replace his weapons with other weapons, and then take support systems on top. Suits getting default weapons only adds confusion.
I may well drop the SGs then, I'm really liking the look of Cyclic Ion Blasters, S7 means wounding heavy infantry on 3s, 90% of vehicles on 4s or better, and with the ATS they're 2 AP-2 shots each, they just seem really good general purpose, and aren't so short ranged they require homing beacon tricks to work.

>>54305371
other suggestion then?

>>54305370
Custodian Guard obviously, maybe GK paladin.

>>54305330
Unless I misread you get 3 by default and my army fits under the Spearhead option, netting me 1 more point.

>>54305325
Harlequin is probably number 1, Genestealers make the top 3. Custodes are banned from this since they reasonably shouldn't be Troops at all and aren't even a real Faction.

>>54305352
fuck if I know, its the list of a friend

I would rather know what to do do that what he is doing

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>>54305198
>>54305217
>>54305294
It's literally propaganda, as are all the crazy-as-fuck impossible feats characters happen to have.

>>54305370
>>54305390
Knight Errant steps on the custode.

>>54305404
>I would rather know what to do do that what he is doing

Exactly

>>54305403
Why we going Harlequin numba won?

>>54305198
My Archmagos is not that badass at being a plot armoured meathead beatstick, but he's T6 2+ 5++ anyway because Counts-as. In fluff, he completely sucks at fighting but is capable of respawning anyway so he doesn't give a fuck. Go down, lead troops, bait out enemy alpha strikes or decaps, dies, keeps on trucking, out-of-position enemy is destroyed by coordinated Admech and artillery, plus horrific biological weapons and endless clone fodder spam.
I prefer my heroes techy, and I killed him off anyways eventually.

>>54305325

Kataphron Destroyers are "two of them killed a Carnifex in about two seconds without giving a fuck" dangerous, and are almost certainly the best in crunch since we're disregarding points.

The 30k Mechanicum have Castellax, which are Kastelans with +1W and better buffs, fire dual flamers, Lance Blind Plasma and beat faces at S10, which is pretty sweet. They beat the shit out of Custodes in Prospero too, until some Knights help out.

>>54305377
Battlescribe, but the last few updates have fucked it up.

>>54305422
tell me what to do

>>54305395
All true, but if you were to use 3 Troops and 2 HQ you would get an additional 3 Command Points.

What I was trying to say is just that this is the one reason to ever use regular Terminators over Paladins, generally speaking.

>>54305425
Harlies are a quality over quantity faction, their troops are disgustingly powerful.

>>54305448
to accomplish this do you think dropping the raiders for a Stormraven and changing pallies to termies might be a good idea?

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So, people who play HHG, is a full Legio Cybernetica army going to be possible when Fires of Cyraxus comes out? Like, just Datasmiths and a fuckton of automata?

>>54305404
Ok then a couple of advices :
>Scythe on lord is way better
>Command Barges are better than footslogged lords, especially since they recently gained the <character> keyword
>Monoliths aren't worth the points, sure they are pretty tough to kill but you are better off taking something that actually does damage, like H.Destroyers for example
>The Deathscythe is, just like the Nightscythe, an overpriced piece of shit. Investing in a ghost ark to support those Warriors is a way better option.
>Other good Necron shit that you might want to consider : Tomb Sentinels and Wraiths.

>>54305415
What, like Imperial Knight?

>>54305489
No, no, I was just speaking generally. Your list is fine as is. Personally I would wish to add a Paladin Ancient somewhere for the delicious extra attacks, but your army works just fine the way it is.

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>>54305507

Yes.

I'm pretty exited myself. I might do a Mechanicus army just for that reason alone.

I mean, just look at these fuckers.

>>54305507
Nobody knows what will be in FoC, nobody even knows when its coming.

Personally I'm more excited for the Triaros and you should be too.

>>54305540
>this is what we could have had instead of the down syndrome retarded kastelans

>>54305507
Boy do I ever want some of these things. Shame they're only available in cancer resin.
Here's hoping that GW will actually give AdMech some more love and please not derp the Vorax design down like they did with the Castellans.

>>54305568

I mean, the iron circle Domitar is rad, but no way are those things cooler than Kastellans.

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>>54305568
I know right ?

>>54305591
>Kastellans.
This is not a thing.

Do you mean Kastelans, or Castellax?

If the first one, literally kill yourself.

>>54305594
>that offset head
No. I understand what they were trying to do, but no.

>>54305550

I'm just hoping for a fucking transport to ferry around my fulgrites

>>54305611
Shit taste. The offset headpiece on the Thanatar is awesome.

>>54305604
>complaining about spelling on a Taiwanese ladyboy trading forum
How's the autism treating you these days?

>>54305604

>An extra L

>THAT'S NOT A THING

Jesus man, pull your autism out of your ass.

>>54305633
>>54305639
You expect me to give any of you retards the benefit of the doubt? One model has two L's, the other doesn't, I don't know which one that faggot meant.

If i have 2 dominions squads in a repressor, do I get to move 24"?

The wording lead me to believe this is the case

>>54305633
>not realising that Kastelan and Castellax are two completely different models.

>>54305330
>>54305395


Tbh trading 2 command points for upgrading your terminators to paladins and not having to take a second HQ is really worth it in Draigowing.

Battalion is easy as fuck to get with PAGK useage, obviously.

>>54305448

There's really no reason to use terminators over strike squads as troops though. If you're doing Draigowing, go full paladin and have fun.
>>54305611

you now realize its actual head is on its waist under the gun.

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Revisions were made

>>54305673
>not realizing that an x instead of an n is a way more effective indicator than the irrelevant number of l's
Do you even linguistics?

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>>54305614
Triaros looks GOAT. Carries 20 models and is actually decent in CC. Plus it looks like a train, which is a big plus in my book.

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>>54305611
Best stuff

>>54305665

And the model with two Ls has a lot of other letters that aren't in commmon.

>>54305697
>putting a tracked vehicle on a base
For literally what purpose

>>54305712

because that specific triaros is 8mm scale custom cast epic 30k model

>>54305697
That thing might make it actually feasible to do a glorious ElectroCult army with full blocks of Fulgurites charging from transports.

>>54305718
Fair enough!

>>54305712
Someday all vehicles will have to be based - be ready for this

>>54305439
Thanks.

>>54305568
But you get both, cocknut, when the FoC gives them 40k rules. Sometimes I wonder if people here even like 40k or keep up to date on shit.

>>54305568
This is my problem, i love admech and the look, except castellans look fucking stupid.

>>54305730
Sure anon. And 40k will move to square bases too. And all models will come pre-painted.

>>54305733

I cant believe how balanced kastellax will be in 8th, now that multiwound weapons are a thing

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>>54305723
Ooooh yeah, it's gon be good. I just hope the update don't bone me dry and make all this shit relics.

Like serioisly, if that happens I'm going postal. FW is fucking up so much recently it's insane.

>tfw you realize Thallax will actually be pretty insane this edition

>>54305712
Because the guy who did this (or, let's be real here, the guy who commissioned it) thinks it looks nicer? Because frankly if you are buying obscenely expensive FW stuff, you might as well add whatever makes the model even nicer for you personally.

>>54305733
>But you get both, cocknut, when the FoC gives them 40k rules.
I don't want both, I just want the Castellax.

Kastelans are drop dead retarded.

>>54305741
And here's an example for >>54305711 why I don't trust any of you retards to be talking about the right thing when you fuckers cannot spell properly.

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>>54305744
>Sure anon. And WHFB will move to round bases too
~Fantasy player, 2014

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>>54305744
Don't mock, anon. We're halfway there already.

>>54305785
Except that one was obvious.

>>54305769
>Le ebin Kastelans look bad meme
>>/r/warhammer40k

>>54305794
This isn't any different than space hulk models which are 8million years old. Plastic being another color than grey doesn't mean shit.

>>54305769
>I don't like them so they're retarded
Why are you such a bully? And if you don't have one of every unit you're not a TRUE player.

>>54305794
>Easy Assemble models sold to be used with 6 paints because of UK laws about glue means that it's going to happen with everything
Yes cause they're gonna make coloured plastic for every single faction.

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Figured I'd offer it here to you guys. 80$ + shipping. Also have a 7e codex. [email protected] is my email, talk there.

>>54305809
But they do, when compared to the Castellax, which is literally the same design but with 90% less derp. And nicer guns.

>>54305524
Yep. Technically, it is the cheapest model in its subfaction. So that means it's basically that army's bottom-line trooper, right? Right?

>>54305809
>'Le ebin meme' meme
>pre-emptively projecting reddit at his opponent because he talks like fucking reddit
>defending the worst model put out by GW in a decade
Go back.

>>54305803
It was not.

>>54305757
I just want my Myrmidons so I can make a Mechanicus army in the style of the old lore. Tech-Guard regiment (GSC models Cyberneticed up, Counts-as DKoK) backed with heavy Cataphractii Ordnance (Onagers) and a few actual Skitarii from the Forge elite troops. Based on Titanicus with a lot of improvising, but there was a HHG rumour around Xmas that Bligh said Myrmidons as such aren't a thing in 40k, which would just cause major REEEE.

>>54305830
Wow, it's fucking nothing, for too high a price.

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Reposting my request on how i can achieve this color scheme

>>54305861
Not to you, because you're an idiot.

Anyone have a PDF of the "Eye of Medusa" novel?

>>54305292
ebay

>>54305830
>cuckerton

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>>54305830
>npc faction

>>54305871
With lots and lots of fading, streaking, and weathering in general.

As in, if you need to ask, you can't.

I have $42 in paypal to spend on orks, what do

>>54305809
Kastelans are liquid shit. Almost on the same level as the babycarrier.

>>54305822
What's this glue thing?

>>54305842
Well its not at all the same design, other than being large robots.
I mean, I like the robbie the robot aesthetic. Makes them look like the ancient warmachines they really are, and the kind of fun appearance of them is a good contrast with how they appear in the fluff, that is, as horrifying soulless killing machines that make no distinction between friend and foe if there isn't a datasmith to control them.

>>54305894
This.

Deathwatch Terminator with a Cyclone Missile Launcher is 104 points. Twin Las Razorbacks are 117. Termies seem so shit this edition.

>>54305894
i was meaning the color, and if there was a citadel or vallejo equivalent.

>>54305921
Just wait until four squads of gk terminators alpha strike on your face

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WHEN

WILL

THEY

LEARN?

>>54305511
much thanks

Is there anything stopping me from equiping my sternguard with two stormbolters each?

Why would you use a Lord of Contagion when you can use a cheaper, better Typhus?

>>54305890
This meme needs to die

>>54305871

Uh, prime gray. Paint metallics, paint bag over heavy bolter. Paint white stripe.

weathering kit the absolute SHIT out of the entire tank.

details

??

done

the technique is much closer to historical miniature painting than normal 40k stuff.

>>54305769

Look buddy, when someone says Kastellans it's pretty obvious he's talking about Kastelllans.

Personally I think people hugely overstate how supposedly dumb the face of a Kastellllan is. Yeah, there's a balance for how retro a model can look before it's just stupid, but Kastelllllans overall look pretty much like a classic 50's beep boop.

In fact, having bought several Kastellllllan kits and built most of them as Kastelllllllans (Some for conversions, the Kastellllllllan kit has some fantastic parts in it) I would say the bigger issue in the appearance of a Kastelllllllllan is the small shoulders. A Kastellllllllllan looks better with some bulkier pauldrons than come on the default Kastelllllllllllan arms.

Thankfully, the Space Marine Centturion kit exists, and it's shoulderpads are pretty cheap on eBay. My Kastellllllllllllans wouldn't be seen dead without their buffed up shoulders.

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>>54305933

>>54305874
>was still selling okay
Don't meme now.

Should I get it?

How much do the other recasters ask for dead pods?

>>54305942
it never will as it feeds on replies and it gets them every time, mind you usually by genericfags circlejerking, but still

>>54305898
Buy orks.

>>54305217
tyranids need to breath yo

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>>54304305
musclegirls A CUTE

just imagine the femmarine + SoB possibilities..

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>>54305960
Fuck forgot pic.

>>54305921
That's because you're playing loyalists.
As Chaos player I'm quite happy with my Termies because I'm not forced to buy them all overcosted Power Fists.

>>54305946
thats not grey tho

>Mainly fight blob guard as SM's
>Have zero anti-horde weapons
How the fuck do i handle guard?

>>54305979
Just use a stormtalon. Lucius pod are overpriced shit (both $ and points)

>>54305939
no fucking reason

why did you make that post if you knew the answer perfectly?

>>54305970
Yeah, you mean, out of the tracheal gills on all six of their appendages and nestled under their dorsal plates?

>>54305986
>whatisprime.jpg

>>54305987
get some fuggin anti horde weapons, flamers are best

>>54305986

Its weathered dark gray

>>54306015
Not with my rolls they aren't.

>>54306015
I disagree, if you roll 1 on flamers it's horrible. I'd suggest heavy bolters instead.

>>54305979

This: >>54305993 dread pods are 120 points to deep strike a dread and nothing else. You could just take a 2nd dread for that cost. (Literally: A quad HB Mortis is 109 points)

But if you must use a Lucius pod instead of the actually useful Stormraven, at least have the common sense to proxy a regular drop pod built without the harnesses or stormbolter.

>>54306018
Looks more green to me

>>54305445
just do it

>>54304880
>Kanz are much better at shooting, so load them up on dakka.

Yes and no. Kans do hit more often when shooting, but they're no slouches in melee. Sure they only hit on 5+ (though you can buff it to 4+ with a WAAAGH Banner Nob nearby) but they have 3 or 4 attacks each depending on unit size, and those are at Str 8, AP-3 and a flat 3 damage each. That's damn good, and all on a chassis with 5 wounds and a 3+ save at T5. Honestly the biggest weakness of Kans is their leadership, since they don't benefit from Mob Rule, but a nearby Warboss can alleviate that since any Kans that run really hurts you. Given a choice between MANZ and KANZ, I'm leaning towards KANZ every time.

>>54305905
You can't buy glue in the UK without an adult with you. You can also only buy a limited amount each time. If you order online you have to use recorded delivery. It's to stop people huffing it.

>>54305952
Literally no effort: The Image.

>>54305993
>>54306054

Sorry I meant storm raven yes

>>54306069
>to stop people huffing it
Is this real life

>>54306061

>just realized they're called Kanz because they literally look like aluminum cans.

>>54306060
go eat a dick

>>54306069
No need for effort if the original images speak for themselves.

>>54305390
Eversor Assassin

>>54306085
You now realize that the UK is a socialist nightmare state.

>>54306108

You mean Airstrip 1?

>>54306096
....I don't have a slowpoke meme dank enough for this.

>>54305330
Paladins are staggeringly better than GKTs now.

Make up the slots with PAGKs.

>>54305987
>Combi-Flamer Sternguard
>Centurions with Heavy Bolter/Hurricane Bolter

>>54306108

>UK
>socialist

I wish /pol/ would leave

>>54305939
because you cant field 2 typhus.

>>54305987
6 Stormraven

>>54305939
He looks cool

>>54306141
I would argue a cheaper chaos lord is a better option than a contagion lord if you don't want a malignant plaguecaster

>>54306173
this tho

it looks fucking sweet

>>54306141
But you would never want to field a single Lord of Contagion let alone two. His aura sucks and he's overcosted as fuck. I would rather play a bare bones Chaos Lord of Nurgle than a Lord of Contagion, if only because the Chaos Lord's aura ability is actually useful. And if you for some reason want to cast more than two Nurgle discipline powers per turn, you always have the Plaguecaster available to you. And if you want support AND melee oomph, then there's always the Daemon Prince.

>>54306221
Cry about it, dildo

>>54306085
Yes? You do realise glue sniffing is a major growing problem in the world? Not just the West, but in the world. Plus little Timmy, age 10, sticks his hand to his face and has to go to A&E to remove his hand. This is simple shit, anon.

>>54306108
Or it's to prevent stupid people from doing stupid shit? USA is a country where you can be a day over 18, get gang fucked by 18 black guys and covered in cum, but on the way home you can't stop at a bar and drink your shame away. Seems like USA is a socialist nightmare state to me! Won't even let people drink before 21!

>>54306233
Why? You're the retard playing a shitty model. I just paint mine, shelf him and then use an HQ that's actually worth a damn.

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>>54305952
One really must wonder who looked at the plastic MK IV armour designes and though
>yeah that's good
especially when looking at all the resin MK IV that FW produced.
I mean those are comically bad proportions.

>>54306265
>glue sniffing is a major growing problem in the world
you said it yourself

>>54306289
Right? he looks like a fucking babby

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>>54305198

>>54306265
>Plus little Timmy, age 10, sticks his hand to his face and has to go to A&E to remove his hand.
>using super glue on plastic models

>>54306289
That is a damn cool Icon. I wish Word Bearers in 40k had half as much attitude as they do in 30k

>>54305198
strength, toughness and 3+ are the bionics but the rest is spot on. i got greater daemons who when summoned usually spell the death of a planet according to fluff. my khorne herald on juggernaut has been known to smash through a few units

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>>54306305
Especially perplexing considering Rubric marines look fine and still use MK IV armour.
They should have just copied the resin version.

Anyone here order from CCON? What's his average shipping time this time of year?

>>54306366
3

>>54306399
Weeks?

>>54306424
...47?

When FW sells a kit that is plastic kit plus conversion kit, can you ask them to just sell you the resin conversion kit bits?

Conversely, if you buy a FW model that comes with some but not all the plastic sprues for a kit, can you ask them to bump your bill up and send the whole plastic kit?

>>54304281
This is your daily reminder that all flamer weapons are shitty, and the random attack number makes them entirely useless.

>>54306328

Word Bearers get routinely shafted in 40k because GW have yet to ever give them fluffy rules worth a damn.

>t. bitter WB player

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>>54306328
To be honest I'd reccomend any aspiring WB players just use the FW models even if they're only gonna play 40k, they're just so much better.

>>54306424
Hours. Gotta love that same-day delivery via drones.

>>54306069
You've got to be shitting me, how many people can there be, huffing glue, when weed and alcohol is easily avaible? Since when is that law in effect?

>>54306469
>not paying premium for 3 second delivery via quantum tunneling

>>54306444
Sure you can ask them.

>>54306496
>being poor and not having the product sent to you before you even ordered it via time travel

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>>54306289
>resin Mk IV
>good proportions
Come on now.

>>54306468
Fuck me, I had forgotten just how bad those plastic Possessed CSM were

>>54306506
>not ordering 9th edition minis from the future

>>54304520
>>54304479
That obviously isn't his whole army and he can have any HQ he wants, I love that you autists get so BTFO by this.

>>54306502

Basically I kinda want to make a single Riptide magnetised fully to also be a Y'vahra and a R'varna.

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>>54306479
Literally just took this from the GW site a second ago, feels bad man