Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

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Join the greater good.

What faggot removed the snide memes from the list builder entry in the OP post? Disgusting.

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>>54282431

am I KAWAIIIIIIII

>>54282431
>ClothingBonusToCharisma.gif

Anyone around here been to The Vault in Kutztown? Good prices? Good Selection?

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First for Ork Tankhammers

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>>54282431
>greater good
>posts elves

>>54282431
thatsadude.exe

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IRON WARRIORS REPORT IN

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Let's say, one of the sisters of battle turned out to be a psyker. How fucked is she?

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>>54282477

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>Venerable Contemptor
>fenresian greataxe & blizzard shield
>two heavy flamers
Reasonable?

Apparently enclosed Salamanders are a thing the Steel Legion have in fluff. Did they ever have models?

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>>54282477
Shut the fuck up and build a trench already

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>>54282485

>>54282484
She'd be identified in the schola and send over to telepathica for training. With the typical zeal and willpower the sisters have she'd stand a good chance of making it through and being assigned a non-shit post, maybe as astropath to her order. Way better off than the average Joe McWitchcraft.

>>54282484
Depends how good she is at bluffing. She might be able to pass it off as a gift and become a Saint.

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>>54282503
nah they where FW only and open topped at that
i really want a salamander to

>>54282443
It didn't add anything m8.

>>54282485
Honestly speaking, I thought Iron Warriors do not use daemons, no?

>>54282443

why don't people just put a link to battlescribe?

it's free and works perfectly fine. There are a few errors here and there, but it's more than passable

>>54282530
But that means she'd be kicked out of her order, right?

>>54282547
I've only recently found out they got canned. Was that recent?

>>54282500
Is it new Gundam suit?

>>54282582
Because these autists can't figure it out anon

>>54282583
Well, yes. She'd leave her order and join Astra Telepathica, then get a post with either them or another organization like the Guard or a noble house.

>>54282500
Not a bad idea. How would you suggest running the spear guy?

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Keep posting dioramas.

>>54282500
>leviathan platform
>Dreadknight sword
>blizzard shield
Seems reasonable to me, it'll be rightly expensive but Killy as fuck

Are Scions viable now?

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>>54282650

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>>54282627
Ok, thanks. Like I said in other thread, I want to put her in my army as a primaris psyker and give her a battle sister squad as a bodyguards/guards. I like the idea of her former sisters guarding her but also keeping an eye on her so they can torch the bitch down if she goes batshit crazy.

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>>54282650
Oh, and here's how to make those ork buildings.

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>>54282666

>>54282672
That's perfectly viable, have fun converting.

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Anyone know a hood place to buy custom transfers?
I have an idea for a Primaris Dusk Raiders army and I suck absolute balls at free-handing

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>>54282687

>>54282689
The miniature's so great it doesn't need converting imo. She even has sororitas symbol on her, so...

>>54282663
Scions + conscripts are IG bread and butter now.

>>54282690
You could try making your own.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvBilhOALZg

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>>54282694

>>54282694
>pssshhht, nothing personel, kid

>>54282584
don't know when exactly
but at the very least over 2 years ago
probably longer ago though

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>>54282715

>>54282699
The stone spear is a bit off, though I suppose you could just paint it as a fancy crystal on a bent metal staff.

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>>54282555
>I don't play tau

>>54282503
What?

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If a model has 2 chainswords does it get 2 extra attacks per turn?

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>>54282730

>>54282592
Yeah and it is pretty cool, it even move like a Dom.

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>>54282628
Going with my gut here:
>Venerable Contemptor
>dreadnought chainfist
>twin lascannon
>two heavy flamers

>>54282748
Same answer as the last 5 times you asked :yes, but only with those chain swords

>>54282715
Those remind me of FW "photos", i really love when they do stuff like that

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>>54282755

>>54282690
Fallout hobbies make great custom decals

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>>54282783

>>54282654
The Leviathan seems a tad huge for this. I'd use that for the Telemon, if at all.

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>>54282596

>>54282742
Salamander is also the name of an IG tank.

>>54282810
Need to give him a skull helmet so his REEEEs can reduce everyone's Ld by 1.

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>>54282794

>>54282808
Size doesn't matter, killing power does. The spear one is actually as tall as a leviathan, though. Just a little slimmer

>>54282831
>the captain casually posing while everyone else is desperately fighting for their lives
Kek

>>54282663
big time

>can have a senior officer style HQ
>full squads can take four special weapons
>plasma and volley guns got better
>taurox primes are fucking value
>-2 on the basic hotshots is always relevant

>>54282858
Is taurox prime spam brrrtttttttttttt viable?

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>>54282831

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>>54282831

So I haven't heard anyone talk about the hq-builder website. It's doesn't have all the armies Atm, but it seems to work alright and I haven't checked but the points values have usually been right. Am I missing something?

>>54282863
It's literally one of the most efficient gun platforms in the game. To the point of almost but not quite being broken.

>>54282500
Not wolf enough

>>54282831
>the single zoat in the middle of the image
Bring back zoats.

>>54282716
Beat me to it.

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what's the best way to fill slot bases ? I have 20 of them and I don't want to use greenstuff to do that.

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>>54282690
> Primaris
> Dusk Raiders

>>54282890
ZOATS and SQUATS

>>54282863
It's either slightly under or slightly over 100 points depending on your preference of secondary weapon, and what I'd consider the best transport in the game.

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>>54282895
Sprue.

>>54282871

>>54282895
Literally any kind of modeling clay
Just go to your local craft shop and buy a ton of it for dirt cheap

>>54282886
>please log in to access this page
Yeah, nah.

>>54282812
Oh god sorry, my autism.

It is a shame their model got squated

>>54282863
If you can get Chinacast, Vultures Hovering with Punisher Gatlings and a Fleet Officer painting targets is scary for a bit more points.

>>54282895
Single sheet of plasticard will last you for a hundred bases or more.

>>54282895
bluetack covered in superglue to harden it if you really dont want to use green stuff. then just base over it like normal.

Or cut bitts of the sprue to size and glue it in place. doesnt have to be a perfect fit because the sand or whatever you base it with should cover the gaps that it missed

>>54282687
>And here is where a significant number of our few thousand Grey Knights who have to cover the entire galaxy were cut down by dime-a-legion Lesser Daemons, thus lessening the defenxes for thousands of worlds. Nobody noticed, because the one Grey Knight assigned to that Sector never showed up anyway

Did GW ever answer the question about how Space Marines can have any meaningful impact on a galactic scale? They've shown they understand an inkling of what that means with the Admech marching billions of Skitarii around the place, even if we're meant to take the "and then the squad killed 10000 Xenos" as anything but propaganda one million men minus casualties is stupid. That's less than the population of Birmingham, or one Battle of the Somme.

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>>54282650

Could 5 terminator squads kill/hurt a primarch? (Lore)

>>54282936
Only a scrub one like Perturabo.

>>54282936

5 random terminators?

No, probably not even 50

>>54282949
>Perturabo
>Scrub
Dorn please go

>>54282931
Warhammer is not meant to make sense.

>>54282916
Fair enough, I already had a spam-tier email that I use for such things.

>>54282936

Depends

5,000,000 terminators could not kill Vulkan

>>54282949
Didn't perty take on a load of terminators by himself, and win, at phall?

About the only good thing he did at phall though.

>>54282957
No.
I am fortifying this position.

What is the best loadout for a maulerfiend, lasher tendrils or magma cutters?

>>54282955
5 Squads, not 5 terminators.

>>54282971
Perty is strong as Fuck and actually plans shit in advance. Think of him like Bane from Batman, in that not only is he strong as Fuck, but he's also as smart as Batman too, this is what makes him dangerous.

>>54282936
No.
5 conscript squads though, that's a different story.

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>>54282936
Well given how Guilliman said that one Bolter round unarmoured to the head would kill him, almost certainly. They're only so fast, and unless they're a Perpetual or one of the Psychic Bullshitonium Gods like Magnus or Lorgar they should manage it. Dorn supposedly went down to a swarm of astartes, right? It would go down like Battleships in Uber. The Primarch would probably kill one or two squads, and in fact did at Phall, but not that many at once.

How long does it take you to paint one line infantryman?
[spoilers]a little over 2 hours, and it still looks like shit

>>54283022
Actual painting about 20mins, waiting for shit to dry rounds it up to about an hour. I paint by squad so by the time I'm done with tiny plastic man #5 tiny plastic man #1 is dry and ready for the next coat.

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>>54283022
Over a month if I can focus. I think they look good.

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POST DAILY HUNKANS NOW

>>54283052
That's some pimp grass. Tell me your secret.

>>54283052
Whats he reading?

Codices are coming soon.

What do you want out of your army's new book?
More importantly, what do you want, and what do you think GW will actually give you?

>drewcary
>all I want is Duke Sliscus back, with maybe some new Haemonculi Coven models
>probably get some new cuck-model to help the Ynnari more than the true Lords of Commoragh...

>>54283129
Jetbikes for HQs damn it. Or at least reaver/hellion hqs.

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>>54283129
I want mechanized artillery and better Obliterators

>>54283022
been going at it with 5 valhallans since 10 this morning
granted i'm just waiting for the texture paint to dry so i can finish basing them but it took me a good 4 and half hours for the dudes themselves

>>54283121
>step one
>put in laspack
>step two
>point laspistol at enemy
>step three
>pull the trigger backwards as indicated on the diagram

Brigade Detachment

HQ
Marshal Karis Venner (Warlord)
70 pts

x2 Feild Officer
Power Sword
54 pts

Death Rider Commander
Power Sword
42 pts

Troops
Infantry Squad x10
Vox Caster, Flamer
62 pts

x4 Infantry Squad x10
Vox Caster, Grenade Launcher
240 pts

x4 Infantry Squad x10
Vox Caster
220 pts

Elite
x3 Command Squad
Regimental Standard, Vox Caster, Meltagun, Plasma Gun
171 pts

Death Rider Command Squad x4
68 pts

x2 Commissar
Power Sword
68 pts

Death Rider Commissar
Power Sword, Bolt Pistol
55 pts

Quatermaster
x2 Medicae Servitor
48 pts

Fast Attack
x3 Death Rider Squad x5
240 pts

Heavy Support

Heavy Weapon Squad x3
x1 Lascannon, x2 Autocannon
65 pts

Heavy Weapon Squad x3
x1 Lascannon, x2 Autocannon
65 pts

Quad Launcher Battery x2
x3 Guardsmen Crew
170 pts

Quad Launcher Battery x2
x3 Guardsmen Crew
170 pts

Medusa Battery x2
x4 Guardsmen Crew
192 pts

Total: 2,000 pts

>>54283129
I want Space Marines to feel like actual elite troops sent in to suicidal meat grinders because they are the few men alive that can withstand retarded amounts of firepower and still get shit done.

>>54283129
>What do you want out of your army's new book?

Some options for custom legion rules would be pretty cool.

>>54283106
You put the glue and then you but the flock. It's not anything special, just pva glue and static grass.

>>54283129
>csm mixed warband
>really want defilers made viable, and new units for khorne + slaanesh (probably will have to wait for WE and EC codexes for that though)
>will get lots and lots of DG releases, which isn't bad persay but not ideal

>>54283142
The thought of being able to put a Succubi on a jetbike or hellion board gets me more excited than a space wolf at a furry convention.

>>54283129
Personally i hope Ynnari get their own codex at some point with some of their own shit. They had "Black Guardians" or something for a while, maybe those guys plus some other edgy shit? I like the idea of eldar devoted to that one crazy prophecy and the god of death but mixing aspect warriors and kabalites is hardly "fun and exciting new eldar" its just eh. Especially since you can mix all that shit WITHOUT losing haemonculus stuff by just taking aeldari keyword instead of ynnari.

>>54283129
Riptide wing.

>>54283175
It used to be true in ye olden days of 3e, too, before the Update.

>>54283173
>really want defilers made viable

Aren't they already in a fairly good spot?

>>54283167
They've implied they want to have separate books for the First Foundings now. That's their plan. So we may actually get proper rules for White Scars, Imperial Fists, Salamanders, Iron Hands and Raven Guard. Shit would be so cash.

>>54283185
Bait so weak I cba to even attach a pic

>>54283129
Generally, just chapter tactics for every major faction.

>want
PLASTIC ASPECT WARRIORS.
>expect
Overpriced clampack character. Maybe an autarch with an utterly nonsensical pair of weapons, like a reaper launcher and scorpion chainsword or something.

>>54283129
I want 20 man assault squads and the ability to give my vets carapace armor and chainswords.

>>54283192
>4 attacks
>5+ to hit if you move (read: every turn)
no

>>54282931
I mean, theoretically SM could change the course of a battle by drop-podding/teleporting into the enemys' high command and perforating anyone with a fancy hat. But then they'd immediately die.

The problem is that, while the lore about SM capabilities are wildly inconsistent, we do know approximately how tough ceramite is. We know that hotshot lasguns can crater it, we know that power weapons and plasma go through it like butter, and even krak grenades can pop them open. An elite force of supersoldiers 1,000 strong isn't going to last long when all it takes to kill one is a lucky heretic with a mass produced, standard issue anti-armor grenade.

>>54283177
Black Guardians are Ulthwe, and will probably be in that book. I'd like Ynnari to be their own thing rather than All The Elves: Army Edition, but that's probably not going to happen. Though there was talk of a 'new side'.

>>54283177
Currently, there's just about zero reason to take many, if any, dark eldar in a Ynnari list, save for some blasterborn.
At least, thats been the case in my lgs

>>54283129
CSM Codex?
Possessed buffs. Options to buy marks of chaos as actual bonuses of some sort. Price drop on shit like power fists on plague champions and double helbrute fist seriously what the fuck 40 points for one extra attack? 2 Base attack warp talons and raptors, if chosen can have it so can they! Price drop on plague marines. Defiler buffs. New fucking spells i can cast more than once a god damn turn.

>>54283022
I batch paint. Takes about an hour and a half to two hours for 5 models.
Thats before highlighting though, just colors and shades.

>>54282936
>>54282949
>Captain Tyr reached the inner sanctum of the ship where Perturabo resided, he had only 14 terminators and 30 Astartes in Mark III "Iron Armor" with him. All of the Imperial Fists, including Amandus Tyr, were killed in the final assault against the primarch.

That's 1 Captain, (almost) 3 squads of Terminators, and 3-6 squads of Marines.

Unsure if Perty had any help.

>>54283162
This is the sort of thing that makes me want to look up custom transfers.

>>54283240
Before or after his ascension?

>>54283129
GSC. I want to customize my HQs. That's literally all.

>>54283255
Before. This was early on in the Horus Heresy.

>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Chaos_Space_Marines(8E)
>Another view: Not much more durable than a Defiler, and you could have 2 Defilers for his cost. Outside a Thousand Sons list (why?) not worth it. Surround him with Scarab Terminators or Rubric Marines though, and he's a force multiplier that's broken as shit. Makes a great Phalanx which goes with their theme well, on top of being strong.

2 Defiler > Magnus

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What's a decent price for an entry-level airbrush/compressor? I think I want to try it out.

>>54283277
>1d4chan tactics

>>54283129
I want there to be a distinction between Chaos Space Marines and renegade Space Marines.

"Veterans of the Long War" just didn't really give CSM the feel that they had been alive for 10k years doing nothing but fighting each other and the Imperium. There should be two entries for renegades and for CSM. Renegades should basically be equal to loyalist Space Marines, CSM should basically be Chosen —but a little cheaper in points/power than Chosen are now—and Chosen should be more expensive than they are now but be rapey as fuck, since Chosen are CSM that have done even more shit than regular CSM.

>>54283129
No more new suits, add more Auxiliaries (Gue'vesa, Demiurge, Nicassar, etc).

>>54283287
$50 would get you a decent one.

>>54283277
ahaha thats fucking bullshit, magnus is about as killy as 5 defilers

>>54283129
Being able to take lasguns on guard Sergeants

>>54283310
Where the fuck from? Second hand?

UKfag here, and all I've been seeing is £150 for the basic starter-kit shit of brush, compressor, some cleaning solution and tubing. Granted I have no idea what I am looking for, so I don't know if this is expensive for cheap.

>>54282998
>Unfortunately for the allied forces, there was a complication.

What complication?

Hey guys, I noticed GK librarians can cast Gate of Infinity on any GK unit, not just infantry. Does this mean I can have deep striking land raider crusaders?

>>54283287
Can't recommend the Badger 105 Patriot enough. it goes for like $85 on Amazon, but you can hunt for cheaoer. Had it for a couple years now and it is still tickin. Especially since I was new to the airbrush scene.

Is there an actual model for a chaos contemptor or is it just a matter of painting and adding bits for flavor?

Not counting the traitor legion models as 'chaos' in this sense, I mean it in the aesthetic sense.

>>54283129
For Space Marines: generic Chapter Master in the Codex and custom Chapters rules.

For the Guard: custom Regiment Rules, Veteran Doctrines, new units without need of new kits like Veteran/HQ version of Sentinels/Rough Riders, HQ Chimera to give order to vehicles, a way to make the Lord Commisar T4 with cibernetic prosthesis.

>>54283298
>be a distinction between Chaos Space Marines and renegade Space Marines.

How about no. Just give CSM a clause that they can take regular marine units similar to how Genestealer Cults and Astra Millitarium.

Add RENEGADE MARINES to Chaos
>"The influence of Chaos corrupts all, including Space Marine Chapters. To represent the element of such a force that has been corrupted by chaos you can include ADEPTUS ASTARTES units and HERETIC ASTARTES units in the same matched play..."

>>54283340
EBay air brush kits, I got one 2 years about for £50. Works fine, YouTube is your friend for working it. I wish I could show you the models I made with it but sadly my army was stolen about 6 months ago and I'm still yet to decide on what to do as a replacement.

I'm new to the hobby and just bought some chaos terminators. What would people recommend I make their load out? I'm making my own legion to be one that uses world eaters rules with the sons of horus colours

>>54282730
>Using perspective to mix epic and 40K models in a believable way.

That's pretty clever.

>>54283340
Holy shit, isn't that like ~300 ameribucks? Unless there's a drastic airbrush shortage in the UK, there's no reason to ever pay that much unless you airbrush professionally.

So what do you all think will be in the Adeptus Mechanicus codex?

>>54283340
I got a cheap airbrush from amazon for £20, and a small compressor for £50 I think.

I just use it for priming and getting a base colour across the whole model/tank and it works fine for that.

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>>54283384

>>54283340
>>54283386
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/FoxHunter-Top-End-Airbrush-Compressor-AS18-Double-Action-Air-Brush-Kit-New-/122527253918?epid=1018704323&hash=item1c8731859e%3Ag%3ArpcAAOSw8lpZMBUK&_trkparms=pageci%253Ae4c4155a-6711-11e7-997a-74dbd180208e%257Cparentrq%253A374a943215d0aa42e4313126ffe80fb1%257Ciid%253A3

Close to mine

>>54283227
Well shit.
>>54283222
Oh, evidently i don't know my shit then. Well yeah I'd like to see them more limited in what they can steal from craftworld + Harlequins since they have a limitation on dark eldar with the no haemonculus, then get some of their own shit to make up the difference. Like why not have wraithbone bodies animated by dark eldar souls like a Wraithwych or something using some ynnead soulbinding shit instead of a soulstone, some dudes who are trained by/copy the visarch and maybe some weirdass mandrake variant?

Do many of you actually use plastic glue over super glue
I've been using plastic glue for ages, Geedubs store manager recommend it and I never gave it a second thought, but I recently gave super glue a try on a model and it worked just fine

>>54283391
Plasma combi-bolters. Deep strike them together with your lord, so you appear next to the enemy HQ and shoot them at S8, reroll 1s.

I just really want to use the riptide.
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [49 PL, 675pts] ++

+ HQ [6 PL, 127pts] +

Cadre Fireblade [3 PL, 62pts]: Markerlight [3pts], 2x MV7 Marker Drone [20pts]

Ethereal [3 PL, 65pts]: Honour blade, 2x MV7 Marker Drone [20pts]

+ Troops [24 PL, 396pts] +

Kroot Carnivores [3 PL, 60pts]: 10x Kroot [60pts]

Strike Team [7 PL, 112pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16pts]
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui [8pts]: Pulse rifle
. 11x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [88pts]

Strike Team [7 PL, 112pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16pts]
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui [8pts]: Pulse rifle
. 11x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [88pts]

Strike Team [7 PL, 112pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16pts]
. Fire Warrior Shas'ui [8pts]: Pulse rifle
. 11x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle [88pts]

+ Fast Attack [19 PL, 152pts] +

Pathfinder Team [7 PL, 56pts]: MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone [8pts]
. 6x Pathfinder [48pts]
Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 48pts]
. 6x Pathfinder [48pts]
Pathfinder Team [6 PL, 48pts]
. 6x Pathfinder [48pts]

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (T'au Empire) [39 PL, 825pts] ++

+ HQ [7 PL, 176pts] +

Commander [7 PL, 176pts]: 4x Fusion blaster [84pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16pts]

+ Elites [32 PL, 649pts] +

DX-4 Technical Drones [2 PL, 32pts]: 2x

XV104 Riptide Battlesuit [17 PL, 371pts]: 2x Fusion blaster [42pts], Drone controller [5pts], Early warning override [8pts], Ion accelerator [107pts]

XV25 Stealth Battlesuits [13 PL, 246pts]: Homing beacon [20pts], 2x MV1 Gun Drone [16pts]
. Stealth Shas'ui w/ Fusion blaster [43pts]: Fusion blaster [21pts], Velocity tracker [2pts]
. 2x Stealth Shas'ui w/ Multi-tracker [64pts]: 2x Burst cannon [20pts], 2x Multi-tracker [4pts]
. 2x Stealth Shas'ui w/o support system [60pts]: 2x Burst cannon [20pts]
. Stealth Shas'vre [43pts]: Fusion blaster, Velocity tracker

++ Total: [88 PL, 1500pts] ++

>all the upcoming codexes
>fucking order and chaos shit
lmao

>>54283394
Exchange rate is about $1.25 — £1 at present, so ~$200. This is without factoring import tax and shit.

For example the Badger 105 Patriot like >>54283366 recommended is £92.99 on amazon, without extra needles, compressior, tubing, and cleaning materials. Shit's fucking expensive.
>>54283386
Which one have you got, mate? I have fuck all idea where to start — I would like a dual action trigger at least, so I can have it as a beginner's crutch.

>>54283457
It'll actually be
>imperium
>chaos
>themselves

>>54283457
????????????

They're doing it because of the upcoming campaign you dolt.

>>54283355
Gross. you're right, you can. good find anon

>>54283507
Cool. I figured I'd use them as a distraction while I do the real killing with my MSUs of falchion troops.

>>54283162
You mean a firing stud? Theres no moving parts on las weapons

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>>54283457

>>54283446
I use plastic cement whenever I can.

>>54283438
Their thing is not being afraid to die and mastery over souls with wierd ass robo-necromancy. So why not configurable manmobs of acolytes with lighter, but more skilled wraith constructs to lead and support. Add an elite unit fluffed as Yvraine's personal guard and it's a solid base for a faction. Keep soulburst as is so dying acolytes fuel your necrobots and elites.

Saw a dude post from the Rotherham store yesterday, he still here?

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>>54282477
Iron Within, Iron Without.

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Dear fucknut who keeps reposting my stuff,

Im going back and redoing all my infantry. A coat of Mephiston on the fatigues, administratum gray highlights, second Agrax wash. The difference is insane.
I hope you're happy
But Im not doing it because of you!

t. RGG

>>54283446
If it's something that has trouble staying together or I know I will never want to change it I'll use plastic glue. Otherwise I prefer super glue.

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>>54283549
*ant screeching intensifies*

>>54283549
>"Thumbnail Screeching"

I'm trolling around Lexicanum reading up on Tau lore for the first time, and I find myself wondering why Thraxians and Nicassar aren't represented on the tabletop like Kroot and Vespids.

This seems like a missed opportunity to put some new units or mechanics in for the faction, especially for the Nicassar, since they're psychics.

With fluff in mind, are any of the Tau books decent?

>>54283446
i prefer to have skin on my fingertips so i use plastic glue when i can
superglue is for metal/resin and shit that is extremely frustrating

>>54283461
See eBay link above

>>54283579
If this is anything like Fantasy then "Chaos will inevitably win lol, why are you guys even trying" because GW is manned by drunken monkeys.

>>54283454
And what about for melee weapons are power axes still generally the best? And is it worth taking anything else apart from combi plasma?

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>>54283488
>upcoming campaign
>space marines will have their new codex and will steamroll chaos into oblivion with special rules because Chaos Codex won't come out till most likely after the campaign
>"A RESOUNDING IMPERIUM VICTORY!!"

>>54283549
Did you save a thumb nail?

>>54283595
Claws are beasts now. Combi wise I would go with plasma or grav.

>>54283129
I want to be able to mix and match Ork Klans as it's described in the lore without being punished for it. If all we get is different detachments like "If every model in your army is from the Goffs Klan, you get a massive bonus" my entire army will be invalidated.

>>54283589
Do you like anime?
If not stay the fuck away or get ready to be throughly bothered by space marines jobbing to the masterful blueberries and the imperium not wanting a war of attrition despite having more people in one hive world than they do in their empire. God it's so fucking stupid.

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>>54283571
You shouldn't let random fucks on tg get to you, Anon. That said, I do have an idea for how to spruce up your tanks...

>>54283625
Just say "yeah these blue guys and those red gitz are goffs. Don't like it? How about I krump ya then? I'ze da boss, I says them loota gitz is goffs then thems goffs!".

>>54283626
BANEBLADE /=/ PASK

>>54283592
We try because
>SIGMAR GUIDES US!

>>54283598
But the battle is Ultramarines vs Death Guard. I suspect there won't be a huge difference of time between the two. For some reason GW supported a unofficial campaign event like this for AoS and Chaos won that, so I don't think you have to worry TOO much about Imperium steamrolling.

>>54283640
This is a long time coming. I cant keep using the "Ill do good infantry when regiments come out" excuse.

>>54283590
This right here. unless im magnetizing or working with metal/resin its plastic glue all day

>>54283648
Yeah I could do that, but it would kill my immersion which is half the reason I play this game.

>>54283654
LA LA NEVER HAPPENED LA!

>>54283662
It had better not be space marine Sigmar.

>>54283551
Why not have the acolytes be injured eldar who have lost limbs etc and now have wraithbone replacement parts etc? Half-wraithbone eldar who don't mind dying so they have less penalties during morale phase and are tougher to kill, but are slower and aren't quite as effective with guns now that they have to use wraithbone fingers, see out of wraithbone eyes etc etc.

>>54283675
How? If the warboss tells an evil sunz he's a goff now then what is the other ork gonna do?
Either he does as he's told or gets smashed.

>>54283549
>"chaos wins"

>compelling

>>54283598
The next campaign, Assault on Karak, is SM vs CSM.

The campaign after that — which'll probably have a Chaos Triumvirate of Mortarion, Typhus, and Fabius Bile and maybe an Imperial one — will feature DG and GK. That's why those Codices are slated for release in that order.

>>54283549
>"The war is over, Diocletian. Win or lose, Horus has damned us all. Mankind will share in his ignorance until the last man or woman draws the species' last breath. The warp will forever be a cancer in the heart of all humans. The Imperium may last a hundred years, or a thousand, or ten thousand. But it will fall, Diocletian. It will fall. The shining path is lost to us. Now we rage against the dying of the light."
- The Emperor

>"The war is over. Humanity has lost. Warhammer 40k - in all its Gothic, towering, Cylopean, decrepit, doomed, rotting Byzantine majesty - has taken its first irrevocable step."
- ADB, BL Author

>imagine bothering to play as ANY faction other than Chaos

Why are you even bothering?

Why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you? Are you a bunch of cucks?

>>54283681
Next book he will be a Knight Commander, commanding from his Knight Paladin, rectifying a mistake GW has made since his inception : ^ )

>>54283626
This is your threadly reminder that Tau are totally great soldiers on their own and arent the least bit reliant on support systems.

>>54283712
O hi carnac
kill yourself chaoscuck

>>54283720
But they are.
Even their bred for war caste is wimpier than humans. Not by much but still.
What doesn't make sense is the huge shift from 4+ everything to 2+ commanders.

>>54283712
The only cuck is ADB, and nobody should pay too much attention to his views on 40k's lore. He's not quite the same level as Nick Kyme or Phil Kerry with his bias, but he's getting there.

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Should I buy two boxes of gretchin or a box of nobz? I already have 10 nobz in two 5 model units and no gretchins (for now)

>>54283696
Eldar don't need prosthetic limbs. They can grow cloned limbs and surgically attach them to replace damages.

>>54283727
hey newfag, it's pasta. don't be a retard.

>>54283732
ADB outright admits to being a fanboy for Chaos in the hopes that lessens his favouritism.

>>54283730
Commanders suits have their own dedicated and highly advanced AI.

>>54283712
>Why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you?

t. tzeentch

>>54283738
nobz, you cuck

>>54283749
Still have no idea why BL thought it was a good idea to have the self-admitting chaos fanboy write the book about the Emperor and the war in the webway.
But then again it is BL, so common sense does not apply.

>>54283697
It's not pretending to be from the same clan that kills it for me, it's that I can't represent a real huge Waaagh! as it's described in the fluff with every clan fighting alongside each other.

This is what the concise Index fluff has to say:
>Entirely separate to the crude strata of Ork tribes are the six clans. In some ways, the clans are closer to spiritual groupings, while in others they resemble distinct nationalities or philosophies within Ork society. Of course, the Orks themselves see things far more simply; every Ork belongs to a clan, which means he prefers certain colours, has particular likes and dislikes, and is one hundred percent certain that his clan is the best and most important of the lot.
>Within a single tribe there may well be mobs of Orks from several different clans, all fighting together despite their sometimes violent rivalries. Such diversity actually benefits the Ork tribes immensely, for each clan’s Orks tend toward certain violent proclivities and specialisms that complement each other upon the field of battle.

>>54283742
Never knew that. Kinda disappointing, that other anons idea of wraithbone prosthetics are pretty cool.

Then again that's the sort if thinking that leads to Autarchs with wraithbone arms that have D-Pistols, so maybe not.

>>54283780
Because Goulding is an important person there and he is bumboys with ADB because they all hate the same thing (Blood Ravens being Thousand Sons loyalists for example) and are all staunchly anti-Imperial and outright use their headcanon to decide how shit goes (Goulding: SoS no longer exist in 40k they were wiped out after 34M!!!).

So Goulding gets ADB work. What people don't understand is MoM shat on EVERYBODY. Chaos, Xenos and Imperium. Nobody seems to understand that.

>>54283738
Gretchin can be usefull to use as meatshields, by zoning away deep strike units and being in the way for a charge. And pretty cheap units to hold backline objectives with. So depends on if you want that or more musclepower in the form of Nobz.

>>54283768
I heard they are a decent pick for objective securing

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Retouched my Plague Marines a bit based on feedback.

They look good yes?

>>54283808
>>54283813
Welp, hivemind

>>54283807
No no, it made blood angels look good.

>>54283742
Yeah but those aren't all cool and "working towards my inevitable death". How long does it take to work wraithbone anyway? You could make the excuse that its quicker, so the easiest way to get back to fighting as soon as possible is to slap on a wraithbandage and throw them back in.

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>>54283712
>why play a game where the setting ending is decided for you?
Because it's a good game.

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>>54283807
>Goulding: SoS no longer exist in 40k they were wiped out after 34M!!!

>>54283819
I like them mostly but the WW1 looking guy needs more highlights or something on his mark 3 iron armor crotchguard tabard thing. Other than that i guess you could try and make the plasma gun look hotter with some white?

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New Rumor engine. Thoughts?

>>54283833
You could make those a separate unit from acolyte packs. Just a mob of angry old men with necrobot bits and old edition weapons like Punishers, giving one last one-finger salute to the universe.

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>>54283834
>No one here ever wanted to even try Lotr
>Despite my best efforts to get people interested and being able to provide armies for both sides

Why are wargamers such autistic faggots they never wanna try something different for a change ...

How do Ork klans work anyway? Do spores from a goff boy spawn goff orks, or do the klans recruit orks or what? How did they start?

>>54283861
Shadow Aelves for AoS

>>54283861
AoS, I think.

>>54283882
Yes, and cause kultur.

>>54283887
Looks like grenades tho

Are we getting a new edition of Apocalypse?

>>54283598
Sounds like good payback for EoT campaign and the bullshit that was CSM 3.5.
Get fucked heretic

>>54283834
Except that game specifically had What If scenarios and was based on a book decades old. Not being written by dozens of different authors over years.

>>54283884
>>54283887
Terrible fucking meme. Stop it. They're obviously grenades.

>>54283918
>good payback for EoT
>when they retconned the Chaos victory into a Imperium victory because of imperium butthurt

>>54283861
This can only mean one thing :

Plastic thunderhawk confirmed.

more seriously, those look like the frag grenades that you get with plastic khorne berserkers

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>>54283877
>took me years to try it because "what's the point I already know how it ends" and "I can't make MY dudes"
Game is essentially a Historical, it takes a certain kind of person to play Historicals.

>>54283882
Spores spawn feral/savage Orks, who are then recruited into spacefaring Klans. It can happen immediately, having them join the Klan they spawned from, or it can take decades or centuries for a planetbound Ork society to get rediscovered and recruited.

>>54283819
paint the armor trim bronze

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>>54283926
>>54283900

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>>54283819
You need to highlight them a bit more or at the very least recess shade them. They look flat as fuck, fellow Plaguenigga.

>>54283410

Something, anything to save what was a mid tier army from it's 8th bottom of the barrel tier status

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>>54283861

>>54283930
>steamroll everyone else because you have the most powerful codex at the time by far while everyone else has a pamphlet.
>people get upset, GW decides to pause the setting rather than letting anyone win
>years later when the setting restarts you still get to destroy cadia
>somehow this is GW retconning it for imperium fanboys

You want bullshit retcons, then look towards SoC. EoT was pure bullshit because of 3.5 CSM, and even then you guys have ended up getting more than you originally got

>>54283355
Yes, it's a known feature.

>>54283960
>Point tweaks
>Mechanicus can now use most (if not all) Imperial tanks/vehicles

Done.

>>54283978
Didn't EoT ended with Chaos getting a foothold in Cadia but getting their ass handed in Space?

>>54283960
>>54283980

Another fucking HQ choice please.

135 points is too fucking much for our one and only choice

>>54283861
>heap of grenades with a slotted metal plate on top
I have no idea what this is meant to be for. Some kind of trap marker or something?

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>>54283978
>Loyalfags still butthurt about EoT

Beautifull

>>54283998
CATACHAN UPDATE

>>54283991
They lost in space, but it wasn't getting "their ass handed to them"

>>54283960
Obviously you havent played 8th yet. Ad mech is insanely good right now.

>>54283999
I got over that a long time ago, I'm simply pointing out to this fag
>>54283598
That there's a certian poetic justice in what he's suggesting

>>54283978
It really was not, even a little bit, as bad as you're claiming. Not even convinced you played in the campaign.

>>54282738
This exactly what I did, Anon. Now we need to find some nice sororitas.

>>54283998
>>54284006
>>54283861
Makeshift Anti-Tank weapon? So, maybe? Bundle grenades, stick them together, attach them to a metal plate and smack it on a tank as it goes past, or a door or something.

>>54284007
Also that was the 13th FoC was the 14th, but GW forgot and made it 13.5th because pulling a WHF not! End of times is the only thing newGW knows

>>54283129
The duke was the entire reason I started with this army back in the day. If we don't get him back I'll probably just play orks again for this edition.

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23ppm with prism rifles, 28 with blaster and 25 for launchers

Exarch is 4 points more for an extra attack. Taken en masse with minimal sized units each with exarch to save points across two detachments, could it actually be effective?

>>54283960

Hopefully 2-3 HQ choices and 1-2 decent dedicated transports.

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>>54282871
>superiority
>human genes

>>54284042
>In 8th units can attack with as many ranged weapons they are carrying. GW words this new unit's rules poorly and we get a unit that can throw 6 grenades a turn.

Calling it now.

>>54283877
My friend that i know since highschool used to play a lot with his brother and brother's friend.

But the son of bitch never wanted to play with me a wargame even though he got me in 40k, he only want to play video games nowadays

>>54284079
>astartes
>human genes
FTFY.

>>54284073

I run 30 with bike autarch and bike warlock as my main beatsticka in an Ynnari army

-2 to hit them and reroll 1s is absolutely brutal

>People believing the campaign is gonna actually be influenced by people reporting on who won where

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything."

>>54284098
How do you run the 30? 3 units of 10?

What's your list?

>>54283712
If victory is inevitable, why bother fighting?

>>54284007
Say that to my nova cannon

>>54284103
Such a shame, because I love this idea. Ideally would dig a campaign where each GW shop/county/state would represent a certain planet/continent. Fluff written before the campaign and after to represent what occurred.

OH WELL!

>>54283461
I consider an airbrush an investment so it's not something I'm willing to go too cheap on as I've been burnt in the past.

>>54284103
Ow! The edge?

>>54284007
They got their ass handed in space.
Chaos players didn't had the "eye balling distances" as imperial player had.

Imperium basically torpedo and nova chaos fleets in BFG so easily it was not even funny

>>54284145
>I've been burnt in the past
Burn how? What would be your recommended lower limit?

>>54283861
A cunningly hidden trap!

>>54283129
I want different bonus for Regiments which will happen. I also want an officer that can give orders to Bullgryn, but I know that won't happen. I think they know it will make them really strong if they can do the Fix Bayonets order.

>>54284143
"Oh the Piglatinus Campaign? Yeah I fought in that! We only barely managed to save Planetos, but because we did it was used as a staging ground for the counter assault in the next campaign."

>>54283861
Trying to attract the Adriana Grande crowd?
Cheeky GW, very cheeky

>>54284143
The outcome of campaigns has never been decided by actual results, with the possible exception of the 1990s tyranid invasions (which were rigged anyway since the tyranids literally couldn't win, being a single army against literally everyone else).

>>54283861
All I can picture is a trap near a sign of Orkish scribbles saying NOT A PILE OV NADES and it's making me laugh

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>>54282650

>>54283382
I'd really like Commander Rough Riders and Boss Sentinels. That woudl be great.

>>54284098
What psyker ability gets them another -1?

>>54284143
It's been done before. Storm of Chaos was originally an GW campaign which would decide the result and Chaos got it's ass handed to them. So GW had to keep saying "B-but at great cost!". Eventually asked the public to vote for who won and they all voted for non-Chaos because fuck GW trying to get out of this.
>>54284149
>it's an anon uses a meme he doesn't even know how to use it properly episode
Wew laddy.

>>54284224
Isn't it the mask on the Autarch that does it?

Does anyone know the point value for the armies in Dark Imperium?

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Am I doing 1k Grey Knights right?

I was thinking of just getting into close quarters and doing as much damage I can with rerolls and such.


Also is it viable to put Purifiers and a Brother captain in a Raider then just spamming smite?

>>54284098

30x10 vanilla SS
Warlock skyrunner
Autarch skyrunner with 2x deathspinner
Yvraine

Rest varies, I have been trying various combinations of the following:

Farseer skyrunner (Doom)
Swooping hawks in 5m units with sunrifle exarch to provide cheap deepstriking charge screens (that trigger soulburst when killed) and grab objectives.
as above but with scourges (4 splinter cannons or 4 blasters) for some priority-target removal
10 more spectres in the blob
A second 30 SS blob with Autarch (no conceal tho)
Yncarne
CE flyers
DE flyers

>>54284224

conceal from the warlock

>>54282831
>THIS PLANET IS OURS, WITCH!
>No... This planet... is theirs...!

Totally not DoW II intro (before it even happened).

>>54284233
Nope, but i can take a quick guess for death guard.
From memory
Plague Marine squad, 183 points with the setup they give you.
158 points for the plague drone.
185 i think for lord of contagion?
110 for malignant bloatnerd.
80 for Noxious Blightbringer.
So 716 for death guard? I'm not 100% on the lord of contagion cost.

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>>54282650

>>54284089
How common actually is this kinda story?

> Friend introduces me to 40k
> Get super hyped
> Get the starter box for christmas and give him one of the armies
> Go away on holiday for a few weeks
> Nothing but rain, so I spend the time painting the models to the best standard I could at the time
> Come back
> Fucker had thrown his half away, calls me sad for getting so nerdy about it and spends his time going on about how great weed and communism is

>>54284132
Because fuck Chaos.

>>54284239
Does this actually do well?

>>54284103
The AoS one went all Order, they didn't change a damn thing.

If they were changing anything, they would have given one city to one of the other factions.

>>54284269

Mine is similar

>Group of D&D friends gets into 40k
>Everyone buys $500ish of stuff
>Start playing games regularly
>Play less and less games
>Until none of the others plays anymore

>>54284262
Except those are BA not BR.

>>54284291
>The AoS one went all Order
What? What campaign was that?

>>54284266
>Titan owners so rich they can buy multiple tau battlesuits to act like accessories to their titans
Yeah i make sure to outfit all of my dreadknights in the latest daemon corpse fashion.

>>54282650
>heavy bolter is basically a giant bolt pistol
kek

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>>54282555

>I play Death Korps of Krieg (*recasts)

>>54284288

Had a few close calls won all 4 games I played with this so far.

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https://regimental-standard.com/2017/07/12/the-five-wonders-of-ultramar/

>>54282477
Why are iron warriors fans the most autistic?

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>>54284306
Season of War.

>>54284269
Sounds like he needs a trip to the reeducation center and/or gulag. Seriously he threw it away? What the fuck.

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>>54284316

>>54284319
Awesome, I really want to make use of them.

What do you play againt primarily

>>54284269

Lots of videogames go through "phases" where they play a game religiously for a month, and never touch it again. Unfortunately they sometimes also go through a 40k phase and try to start it with their friends, only to quit a month later when the new *insert blockbuster game here*

That's how I got into it. My friends don't play anymore and never painted their models.

But at least it helps spresd word of the game to others right?

>>54284331
Oh right yeah. Who won it? What was the result? I never followed it. Lemme guess, Seraphon did fuck all as per usual and it was all Stormcast feat Syvaneth?

>>54284269
Well >>54284089, like Tau and Socialism, hate mecha animes because the are unrealistic but love to 2deep4you animes

>>54284321

>the ultramarine wank reaches the tongue in cheek IG funny pages

Nice...?

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>>54284331
>all those counters for a game about rolling fixed scores

>>54284269
>not playing 40k stoned as shit

>>54284347

Anything that comes

The 4 games were against IG (very close), Tau (tabled him on T3 with minimal losses), Orks (as Tau) and Ultrasmurfs (somewhat close)

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>>54284354
More to come.

W-why are most of the Tyranid items on the GW store out of stock or not available?
G-Games-Workshop... You're not going to squat the nids... r-right? RIGHT?!

>>54283819
Did you use a wash at any point?

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>>54282555
>I play Dark Eldar

>>54284390

>Breaking news, the nids have been eaten by nids

>>54284346
He is cosplaying penguin for halloween, yes.

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>>54284389
>>54284354

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>>54284269
>two guys comes into my lgs
>spends a day talking to everyone about different armies and fluff and what's good and bad
>they collectively drop $2500 on full space wolf and grey knight armies and a bunch of books and the rulebook
>they return a week later with a fully assembled grey army
>they play a couple game over the course of that week
>never seen again there or at the other shop in town

>>54284321
>Iax is among the most beautiful worlds in the Imperium, known for its gentle climate, lack of urban development and enormous rolling fields. No wonder it’s known as the Garden of Ultramar. REVISED EDITION NOTE: DESTROYED BY VIRUS BOMB, CURRENT STATUS: DEATH WORLD.

https://youtu.be/P-3GOo_nWoc

>>54284390
They got eaten by the blood crusade, sorry man. Codex tyranids and GSC are about the past, not the present.

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>>54284354
>>54284406

>>54284233
Primaris marines come to about 960 iirc. More than the death guard.

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>>54282555

>I play Primaris Marines

>>54284363
>IG
>Funny
Yeah if you still use demotivationals in 2017 and still think FOR DA EMPRAH XD is funny you dumb piece of shit

>>54284429
Fuck off Malcador.

>>54284435

t.ultrafag

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>>54284381
Only way to do it nigga.